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@homework1992
@homework1992 4 жыл бұрын
When the news of their divorce filing first broke, I thought of how Tamar was downing her sisters at the dinner table about how Vince was so much better than their men. My, how the tables turn....this is why you stay humble and close your mouth because you never know what the future holds.
@Zion_1010
@Zion_1010 Жыл бұрын
So true
@geneviasims7617
@geneviasims7617 3 ай бұрын
You gotta cheater, you gotta computer wiz who like to cheat on the internet, you gotta man who cant hold dwn a job, you got somebody who js wanna live off of you....What Im sayin is this kinda dude right here is totally different....This right here aint easy it cmes w a price......
@catherinab01
@catherinab01 7 жыл бұрын
He is right...they both are at fault. I thought after watching this I would feel it was all on Vince but it isn't. She is toxic/childish and he is controlling/dismissive. They both have work to do.
@candicel.7696
@candicel.7696 7 жыл бұрын
Catherina Brown Agreed
@Jennymule1
@Jennymule1 7 жыл бұрын
Catherina Brown girl everything Vince said is fake and for the cameras. He don't even talk like that for real he's mean and he's nasty not just to Tamar but to the producers, camera men and even folks that worked alongside Tamar and I didn't realize this until I watched All the seasons of Tamar&Vince from season 1 until now. He had me fooled cause I really thought he was one of the good guys. Tamar always been transparent like her or not but Vince he's only himself when he's caught off guard
@likemindedlm4283
@likemindedlm4283 6 жыл бұрын
Catherina Brown 👍
@ladydiloftin4716
@ladydiloftin4716 5 жыл бұрын
VINCE NEVER RESPECTED TAMAR. HE WAS ARROGANT AND NASTY TOWARDS HER AS IF SHE HAD TO PLEASE HIM.....END OF STORY.....HE HELD HER BACK FOR AS LONG AS HE COULD. HEHAD POWER OVER HER THAT HE TOTALLY ENJOYED. THE STANDARD THAT HE SET FOR HER DIDNT APPLY TO HIM, AND HE ENJOYED PUNISHING HER AND MAKING HER STAY IN FEAR OF HIM IF SHE STEPPED OUT OF LINE.
@gigicorleone3444
@gigicorleone3444 4 жыл бұрын
Catherina Brown wow! You are Sooo right!
@susanmcconnell7676
@susanmcconnell7676 6 жыл бұрын
Have anybody noticed when people start doing reality shows they marriage does not last long.
@gezzy2short
@gezzy2short 2 жыл бұрын
Because they have to face their issues head on instead hiding.
@missnene8339
@missnene8339 2 жыл бұрын
Yep!
@AK-ql8yp
@AK-ql8yp 2 жыл бұрын
& the Devil creates and feeds of drama .. you want £$ then the Devil wants a signed contract
@TamikaSaunders-iq3wf
@TamikaSaunders-iq3wf 4 ай бұрын
Exactly that's why you don't do realty shows just saying
@pochama3927
@pochama3927 7 жыл бұрын
Prayers for Tamar, Vince, and MOST importantly Logan ♥️
@kenyaloveless9104
@kenyaloveless9104 6 жыл бұрын
Im about to cry listening to vince
@mimibee409
@mimibee409 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly, whatever message Tamar wants to convey ...no matter how true, is so eroded by her overwhelming drama, rudeness and entitlement. She is too much for any human being to tolerate
@hannahbarbarian6786
@hannahbarbarian6786 2 жыл бұрын
So it's her fault that he cheated?
@missnene8339
@missnene8339 2 жыл бұрын
@@hannahbarbarian6786 Yep!
@choc4422
@choc4422 Жыл бұрын
He beat her. No one deserves that.
@mimibee409
@mimibee409 Жыл бұрын
@@hannahbarbarian6786 its his fault that he cheated. However, in some cases of infidelity, the wronged spouse played a demise in the relationship as is the case here. Don't paint her to be a complete victim bcs that would be disingenuous. He should have outright left her and then pursued someone else if he felt she is Intolerable
@mimibee409
@mimibee409 Жыл бұрын
@@choc4422 no one deserves that. I don't condone any form of abuse, including Tamars verbal and emotional abuse that she not only enacted against him but against her family too. She runs her mouth and causes devastation in her path and her family encouraged it by excusing her behaviour as "brattish" bcs she is the youngest. He should not have lifted his hand to her...ever. rather her mother should have given her a solid whoopin bcs she is so entitled that she feels she has the right to plunder others with her caustic behaviour and words. She is lucky she is protected bcs someone else would clobber her good for running her mouth so loosely
@rch1jr
@rch1jr 7 жыл бұрын
What does it say about Tamar that every season of this show, she has a different group of people around her April and LeShawn, now these two queens She doesn't do well in relationships of any kind from family to friends to business etc She falls out with lots of different people, OFTEN She has the stardom she's craved for years, NOW'S THE TIME TO DO SOME SOUL SEARCHING
@mialove5402
@mialove5402 5 жыл бұрын
rch1jr I hang out with different people all the time. Is that suppose mean I can’t keep friends? She just hangs out with different people deal with it
@Aliasss
@Aliasss 5 жыл бұрын
First of all, April & Leshawn were VINCE’S friends. So look at him. Second of all, different people says that she can at least make a friend.
@Halo-li8hg
@Halo-li8hg 5 жыл бұрын
It means she's smart. Dont let ANYBODY too close thats how u get bit boo
@JaneDoe-dn4wk
@JaneDoe-dn4wk 4 жыл бұрын
Lashawn is diseased so🧐
@meannoharm1561
@meannoharm1561 4 жыл бұрын
RCH 1 JR THAT'S THE THING SHE CAN'T GET ALONG WITH ANYONE AT ALL. LOT AT THE SHOWS SHE'S BEEN FIRED FROM SHE IS SELFISH
@OhThatsAngie
@OhThatsAngie 7 жыл бұрын
Vince is so perfect and clean cut on camera, but I can tell his mouth is a MUTHA.
@thewrongshoes
@thewrongshoes 5 жыл бұрын
He seems like a passive aggressive SOB to me
@linbonn4749
@linbonn4749 4 жыл бұрын
#Yep
@linbonn4749
@linbonn4749 4 жыл бұрын
Ms E told the whole story...she told Vince to keep his hands off of her child.
@lordvoldemort5725
@lordvoldemort5725 4 жыл бұрын
Lin Bonner Where is the proof he did this? People believe it all when a woman says she was abused. Where’s the evidence, where are the bruises, scars, or markings?
@linbonn4749
@linbonn4749 4 жыл бұрын
@@lordvoldemort5725 MS E lived with them....Im sure she saw and heard things she NEVER WANTED TO discuss. Men AND women get abused and are experts at hiding it from others. I know that for a fact....lived it.
@alib5074
@alib5074 2 жыл бұрын
I honestly don't think anyone will love Vince the way Tamar did. I don't think anyone will ever love Tamar the way Vince did. Neither one has really been successful since.
@truthtorpedo4068
@truthtorpedo4068 Жыл бұрын
Wasn't he beating her?
@loveallshay1659
@loveallshay1659 Жыл бұрын
@@Hotwingzlover84 a lot of it is Tamar’s money.
@Kim-yf8cv
@Kim-yf8cv Жыл бұрын
You sound dumb 😂😂😂😂
@LatashaM89
@LatashaM89 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, honestly wish they could just work it out.
@loveallshay1659
@loveallshay1659 Жыл бұрын
@@Hotwingzlover84 as her manager she couldn’t asked him nothing especially abt missing money. Know your facts before you judge some
@faithspeaks3043
@faithspeaks3043 7 жыл бұрын
I don't feel like Vince is taking responsibility for himself, and he wasn't open for what Tamar was saying.
@BuddaFly18
@BuddaFly18 7 жыл бұрын
Audrey Mack agreed. I never not once heard him say “I.....”
@lordvoldemort5725
@lordvoldemort5725 4 жыл бұрын
What? He literally said it’s both their fault.
@VONiiE8
@VONiiE8 4 жыл бұрын
@@lordvoldemort5725that was so manipulative. It’s like he don’t wanna take responsibility but don’t wanna look like a bad guy so he split the blame. But he never said what exactly was his fault.
@lordvoldemort5725
@lordvoldemort5725 4 жыл бұрын
@@VONiiE8 I forgot what they were talking about. Refresh me pls?
@VONiiE8
@VONiiE8 4 жыл бұрын
@@lordvoldemort5725 they asked Vince what did he learn from that experience and he said “we both are responsible” and that they had to “take accountability for their life.”
@rawbynmariee
@rawbynmariee 7 жыл бұрын
I just keep thinking, he doesn’t have to have her followed. Cameras are following them Both ! you start to build relationships with producers and camera crews. I’m sure it wasn’t hard for him to figure out she had her own appt.
@kiannatittle6797
@kiannatittle6797 7 жыл бұрын
Robyn Harrison exactly thank u that's what I was saying him and Toni are producers so they gone know in addition to I'm sure he noticed all that money missing from they account. She paying an ridiculous amount of money for rent plus I'm sure that she had to pay a deposit plus she got furniture but it looks like an efficiency did u notice the stove top behind her so she don't even have a whole kitchen
@Jennymule1
@Jennymule1 7 жыл бұрын
He can have her followed especially if he's telling them hes gonna be in a specific place (like going out of town and he's really not) Vince is real sneaky. Shoot desperate times cause for desperate measures🤗
@dawnikabenson9807
@dawnikabenson9807 7 жыл бұрын
Exactly! But that’s Tamar extra dramatic ass wanting ppl to believe that Vince is a psycho.
@Shayvideos1
@Shayvideos1 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you..but I haven't seen her with James in awhile..they use to do the cooking shows on ig..do you know if they're still friends??
@Aliasss
@Aliasss 5 жыл бұрын
Kianna Tittle - They’ve BOTH said a handful of times that they have separate accounts.. mine and ours. Not every married couple shares accounts. So I’m sure she dug into HER OWN funds to make that move. Making it more difficult for him to find out automatically & the kitchen space is irrelevant.
@andrews1867
@andrews1867 6 жыл бұрын
He’s right. No matter what, take responsibility for your part in it. It takes two. PERIOD!
@Lita_213
@Lita_213 7 жыл бұрын
You can have respect without love, but you can NEVER have love without respect and they seem to have lost all respect for each other a long time ago. AND, if there truly was physical violence in their relationship, the only place they should be is apart not only for themselves, but also Logan.
@elainematthis1825
@elainematthis1825 6 жыл бұрын
Don't let Tamar fool y'all she was moving out of that house because they was going to be losing that house and she just ran and got somewhere to stay first
@leslieburgess6985
@leslieburgess6985 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly!!
@ericajohnson9047
@ericajohnson9047 7 жыл бұрын
It's always three side to a story.
@ashiacameron
@ashiacameron 7 жыл бұрын
Erica Johnson 3rd side is the truth of reality....one day at a time
@natoshawilliams5869
@natoshawilliams5869 6 жыл бұрын
Erica Johnson no it's not... only 2.. someone is telling the truth.... bs
@jennyoyster5054
@jennyoyster5054 6 жыл бұрын
Natosha Williams that’s not always true, though.
@jennyoyster5054
@jennyoyster5054 6 жыл бұрын
Erica Johnson not always.
@jqueen3494
@jqueen3494 5 жыл бұрын
His side, her side, and the TRUTH.
@1ofakindrebornnursery319
@1ofakindrebornnursery319 7 жыл бұрын
I have been praying for Tamar and Vince to get back together again..Marriage is a blessing from God..as long as God is the head of their marriage, things will work out..continued prayers for the Herbert family
@4knewt505
@4knewt505 7 жыл бұрын
please get the no nothings out her circle and put Christ first. ugh
@cmdubwms
@cmdubwms 7 жыл бұрын
4Knewt Exactly
@shalondradale1632
@shalondradale1632 7 жыл бұрын
4Knewt That part,now you said it all right there put Christ in there life🙌🏻🙌🏻💙❤
@Jennymule1
@Jennymule1 7 жыл бұрын
4Knewt She has Christ in her life sweetie and she always acknowledge him as her Lord and Savior stop putting foolishness out there that you clearly don't know about!
@cmdubwms
@cmdubwms 7 жыл бұрын
Jennymule1 SO ACKNOWLEDGING HIM IS JUST GOOD ENOUGH. OKAY HEY GOD I SEE YOU UP THERE
@4knewt505
@4knewt505 7 жыл бұрын
Jennymule1 she is beautiful, talented and blessed. but we all struggle. that's why I said "First". There's an order to how God wants us to live and when there's confusion like this, then putting Him first clears up confusion. The devil comes to steal, kill, and destroy.
@rabiamata9339
@rabiamata9339 3 жыл бұрын
He’s so good with his words
@truthtorpedo4068
@truthtorpedo4068 Жыл бұрын
& his hands apparently. It is alleged that used to beat her.
@datswassup07
@datswassup07 7 жыл бұрын
This is why she filed. To shake him up and thats exactly what it did....I give it a few more months and she'll move back in. He never admitted any fault until now.
@mkw08
@mkw08 7 жыл бұрын
datswassup07 but was he whooping her ass or not?
@tajmahal8181
@tajmahal8181 7 жыл бұрын
King Mimi exactl y that's my question?
@lisat-wright99
@lisat-wright99 7 жыл бұрын
Moni Klay if it was for ratings why would they need to be BACK together??
@lisat-wright99
@lisat-wright99 7 жыл бұрын
Moni Klay you don't get it yet. if it was a stunt they wouldn't need to get BACK together...you said they're already back together; that's why I put that word in uppercase.
@tomaradoss3420
@tomaradoss3420 7 жыл бұрын
datswassup07 I agree... But they need to work on their individual issues, because that’s what is being brought to the relationship. Big time insecurity issues ..
@Yeauthought
@Yeauthought 7 жыл бұрын
Never mix business and pleasure PERIOD!!!! #itwillneverwork.
@lorettascott7861
@lorettascott7861 7 жыл бұрын
At the end of the day you just can't mix business with pleasure and that's the problem with Vince and Tamar. And yes Tamar is a lot of work and yes its her mouth. Vince i hope you knew what you were signing up for and as for Tamar all of that fame and fortune comes with a price.
@yocomment4707
@yocomment4707 6 жыл бұрын
Loretta Scott he knew what he sign up for but man are stupid like that, they like women like that to date and some marry them loud and mouth but when they get in trouble and the woman act like tamar then oooh she is too much.
@terrym6416
@terrym6416 7 жыл бұрын
I believe they both love each other in they heart. Vince lost all that weight and got his confidence back, he's not taking anymore mess off of Tamar not at all. I wish they stay together and just compromise and work through their marriage to become whole again.
@viviansmith5726
@viviansmith5726 7 жыл бұрын
Terry M yep yep he got that confidence
@IamNikkiG
@IamNikkiG 7 жыл бұрын
Terry M agree
@Jennymule1
@Jennymule1 7 жыл бұрын
IamNikkiG Have y'all checked her Instagram page yet????
@IamNikkiG
@IamNikkiG 7 жыл бұрын
Jennymule1 no why
@cheabkb
@cheabkb 7 жыл бұрын
+IamNikkiG He's having a baby by someone else.
@princesswright7878
@princesswright7878 7 жыл бұрын
I love Tamar but she always complaining about something.. If it was for Vince she would still be singing background for Toni.. They need to get off TV that's the only way they can fix there marriage I wish them the best I really do..
@elizabethmongonary8950
@elizabethmongonary8950 6 жыл бұрын
Princess Wright Vince has done a lot for tamar. It shouldn't be nothing else said but thank you husband for helping me with this wonderful life and my wonderful career and our handsome son.
@brendalaprincegooglenext9736
@brendalaprincegooglenext9736 6 жыл бұрын
Princess Wright she won't get off of TV she loves the attention. It's a rap for them.
@Aliasss
@Aliasss 5 жыл бұрын
You can’t even spell “there” properly in the correct context, but you got the audacity to sit here and try to predict someone’s destiny? He helped her as a husband and any manager should, yes. But make no mistake, if it wasn’t for GOD and HER talent, she may have taken an alternative route outside of what she loves to do. You call it “complaining”, when it’s addressing an issue.. (which I’m SURE goes deeper than just music). You simpleton 🙄
@Aliasss
@Aliasss 5 жыл бұрын
Elizabeth mongonary - You sound extremely ignorant. So she’s supposed to just sit back and endure the abuse? Keep in mind she also gave HIM a wonderful life as his wife, and a son. SHE has had a career since before they met. As a husband, he helped her relaunch it in the right direction. Doesn’t mean she has to eat all the other cow sh*t that comes with it!!
@AnnaLexi
@AnnaLexi 3 жыл бұрын
*_Yup!! & Vince is the reason she got the job at The Real & the reason he got her fired too!! Because she wanted a new manager.._*
@saucyfaces
@saucyfaces 7 жыл бұрын
I don't think Vince should speak on accountability with all the passive aggressive energy he possesses.
@haynie7104
@haynie7104 6 жыл бұрын
Tamar ask Vince lets spend time on love. He will never see his part in their demise.
@resetme7276
@resetme7276 7 жыл бұрын
They both need to get it together turn these cameras off and take off work for a few months to get themselves together personally and individually all this "show the world what goes on in your home for a check to re enact can be too much at times they can't even go nowhere without people asking them about the divorce all I'm saying is some things need to just happen in silence it aint for everybody to know or see
@Jennymule1
@Jennymule1 7 жыл бұрын
Reset Me Vince is fraud who just got exposed and I knew it along. Hes a walking contridiction
@resetme7276
@resetme7276 7 жыл бұрын
Jennymule1 it takes two to tango homie ✌
@Jennymule1
@Jennymule1 7 жыл бұрын
Reset Me yeah but it's a problem if you are "tangoing" with some one other then your wife
@drlisab1948
@drlisab1948 6 жыл бұрын
Reset Me 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
@glamcitystyles9480
@glamcitystyles9480 4 жыл бұрын
She definitely should have kept Vince... he was good for business and he loved her no matter what
@jessicamazeya3626
@jessicamazeya3626 2 жыл бұрын
So good that Toni and Remy Ma fired him?
@brielledrennon
@brielledrennon 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not so sure
@kris38ddd
@kris38ddd 7 жыл бұрын
They both cheated! My gut!
@jmelo9993
@jmelo9993 7 жыл бұрын
I was wondering when we were gonna hear his side of the story.
@indym375
@indym375 7 жыл бұрын
J Melo he seems like he wants to work it out
@elaineanderson4891
@elaineanderson4891 7 жыл бұрын
J Melo I wad thinking the same thing.
@Aliasss
@Aliasss 7 жыл бұрын
Kindra Ellerbee - You don’t know a damn thing about why she got fired, shut up!
@Jennymule1
@Jennymule1 7 жыл бұрын
Talisha C I know that's right. I don't know why these "so called" woman blame her for this foolishness especially when she's not in this by herself. She clearly expressing how she feels and you would think these women could relate but of course not cause they rather hate on her the actually hear and understand what she's saying. SMH!!!
@Aliasss
@Aliasss 7 жыл бұрын
Jennymule1 - You took the words right out of my mouth! 👏🏾
@sandrawhite8791
@sandrawhite8791 7 жыл бұрын
I love Tamar and Vince I pray that there marriage will be restored and workout right.....This was just a wake up call to let him realize she is human and does have feelings also.....He has been through alot as well as she......
@Jennymule1
@Jennymule1 7 жыл бұрын
Sandra White have you checked Instagram I had hoped to until I read hers this morning..so sad
@MsCashybaby23
@MsCashybaby23 Жыл бұрын
he is a professional interview taker i promise you....this is not the real vince
@Wildflowers24
@Wildflowers24 7 жыл бұрын
If Tamar would get her new fake posse those two guys out of her business then may Be she can focus on her marriage and not have ppl around who are just there to get paid
@Jennymule1
@Jennymule1 7 жыл бұрын
Pearlgirl35 girl have you checked Instagram she just made you eat your words
@daniellajoseph2747
@daniellajoseph2747 6 жыл бұрын
Pearlgirl35 UI
@roselineljlouis6375
@roselineljlouis6375 7 жыл бұрын
She loves her
@bncoolc
@bncoolc 7 жыл бұрын
Her Tamar
@Jennymule1
@Jennymule1 7 жыл бұрын
And there's nothing wrong with that!!!!💪👏👏👏
@de57mf17
@de57mf17 7 жыл бұрын
Roseline LJ Louis finally love self first everything else will fall into place God willing!
@Jennymule1
@Jennymule1 7 жыл бұрын
Dot Evans Amen!!!
@bxgirl2930
@bxgirl2930 6 жыл бұрын
They both have showed us so many ways of NOT what to do in a marriage I just don't understand how people are able to take sides it's funny how when our minds just wanna believe in a person we will see past all the bad things in them to only see the good things smh
@lancephillips5848
@lancephillips5848 Жыл бұрын
NEVER EVER should a man put his hands on a woman and infidelity is WRONG! But the same arguments Vince had about Tamar’s behavior and character is a COMMON theme from all those that are close to her! Her family in particular.
@ThePotential
@ThePotential 7 жыл бұрын
He got another woman pregnant!!!! I don't wanna hear nothing he is saying!!!! Screw Vince!!!
@melanieshellowprince533
@melanieshellowprince533 7 жыл бұрын
The Potential 👏💯
@dawnikabenson9807
@dawnikabenson9807 7 жыл бұрын
Well since he got another woman pregnant are u aware that Tamar has been communicating with her ex man in prison for the past few years? Are u aware that this said man has always stated that he and Tamar would be together when he comes home? Are u aware that this man is currently on tour with her? Exactly u don’t know. Tamar is NOT perfect. She has been cheating on him and he has been cheating on her. Tamar’s entire demeanor has changed. She didn’t get no strength to leave her husband she got that strength when she started fucking another man. Those are facts. Plz do ur thorough research
@melanieshellowprince533
@melanieshellowprince533 7 жыл бұрын
Dawnika Cope what??? Omg...now that's ☕☕☕👀👀👂👂
@justingandara9289
@justingandara9289 7 жыл бұрын
LIES, HE DIDN’T GET ANOTHER LADY PREGNANT, NOW GET YOUR LIFE
@dawnikabenson9807
@dawnikabenson9807 7 жыл бұрын
melanie shellowprince yes ma’am!!! Tamar is very far from innocent!!! Vince didn’t get no woman pregnant but Tamar definitely been fucking another man. Anyone can tell. Tamar has transformed into a totally different person. Tamar and her sisters love good niggas.
@sunnymarie2060
@sunnymarie2060 7 жыл бұрын
Tamar must b on bad terms with production cause this show don't make Vince look bad AT ALL. she ALWAYS looks like the mouthy wanna b supa star with childlike antics. If Vince is at fault they don't show shxt.
@Jennymule1
@Jennymule1 7 жыл бұрын
sunny marie this comment is crazy as hell and this only exposes Vince for the nasty, fake, controlling, manipulative asshole that he really is. His take on the episode was just a facade and y'all fell for it..Good judge of character..NOT!!!
@queenleo5578
@queenleo5578 7 жыл бұрын
Vince is very passive aggressive always has been even from the earlier seasons. Alot of ppl only see Tamar as the main antagonist cause she loud/vocal and a lil extra at times.
@Jennymule1
@Jennymule1 7 жыл бұрын
Nikki Jones Exactly!!!
@4bfam
@4bfam 7 жыл бұрын
Nikki Jones Exactly. Tamar for sure does the most, but from season 1 Vince has been very passive aggressive. The term gaslighting comes to mind. The fact that so many women see him as a victim is concerning to say the least. They will never see a dude like this coming. That's the point too.
@likemindedlm4283
@likemindedlm4283 6 жыл бұрын
sunny marie Exactly!
@jackiekennedy5670
@jackiekennedy5670 7 жыл бұрын
I always knew, that after Tamar got her Fame, she was going to leave Vince. She used him for his money, now she has her own. He is worthless to her now.
@cculc175
@cculc175 7 жыл бұрын
Jackie Kennedy I’m not a Tamar fan, but she had her own money well before she got with Vince. She has been a song writer and artist for years. Again, I think Tamar is loud and obnoxious, but I’ll give her credit when it’s due.
@likemindedlm4283
@likemindedlm4283 6 жыл бұрын
Jackie Kennedy 👍
@elizabethmongonary8950
@elizabethmongonary8950 6 жыл бұрын
Jackie Kennedy Now you know God is not going to let Tamar get away with that. She better try and keep her behind with that man. At least you know he cares about you. trust and believe Tamar ain't crazy.
@chanelrenee9506
@chanelrenee9506 6 жыл бұрын
Tamar is leaving because Vince is a cheater... She did not use..
@happyjubilee4021
@happyjubilee4021 5 жыл бұрын
Jackie Kennedy sooooo true🙌🏼
@kofoolanrewaju1639
@kofoolanrewaju1639 4 ай бұрын
Okay, after watching this video, can they please get back together. I never liked Vince, but he seems to really love Tamar, even until today. He just needed to change in a lot of ways, because to be honest, really don't know how Tamar put up with him because he always took her for granted. But if he's changed a lot, then can they please get back together, because he really did love her. And Vince is the most stable person that Tamar has ever being involved with honestly
@fayetakungcharge4762
@fayetakungcharge4762 7 жыл бұрын
Tamar Need 2 Stop Telling The Gays Her Buisness And Start Acting Like A Grown Woman -I Like Tamar -But She Over The Top -She Act Like A Child -She So Dramatic -It Takes 2 To Tangled -If He Bit Her Finger -She Probaly Kept Waving Her Finger In His Face -And He Got Tired And Bit Her -Tamar Got A Big Mouth -She Act Like He Cant Get No Pretty Women Than Her -Im Not Saying Vincent A Saint -But She Do Disrespect Him Alot -It Dont Look Good At All -She Act Like He Should Thank God He Got A Pretty Woman-And He Cant Get No Better Than Her -But Anyway -I Hope They Can Work It Out -I Like Both -Save The Marriage -And Keep God First
@vickydammones356
@vickydammones356 7 жыл бұрын
shlinda davis not a fan of Tamar, but your right stop giving that pillow talk to the guys and talk it over with your man. That's why I'm A Toni fan you anit gotta know her pillow talk... Team Toni.
@Aliasss
@Aliasss 7 жыл бұрын
First, I’m going to need you to learn how to formulate proper sentence structure.. you’re a grown woman. Secondly, it’s a SHOW. They need dialogue & Vince stopped wanting to film the show. If there was no dialogue, there’d be no scenes. Confiding in someone doesn’t make her childish. Vince also confided in his friends during scenes. Why only call out Tamar? & If you KNOW Vince is no angel, WHY only chastise Tamar ?
@lilpinkbubbles6592
@lilpinkbubbles6592 7 жыл бұрын
shlinda davis Wow.....so according to you, it's okay for a man to bite a womens finger because she "disrespected," him. Sorry, I am team Tamar on this. Don't let Vince's t.v. and business persona fool you. You can see he is controlling and abusive. Just ask Ms.E. She lived with them and knows what's up. Its women like you that cosign bad behavior on men!
@aboutthatlife1646
@aboutthatlife1646 7 жыл бұрын
shlinda davis For Real!
@sscott504
@sscott504 7 жыл бұрын
OMG! You said it all!!!!
@Mbb895
@Mbb895 7 жыл бұрын
I think Tamar was bored for how good her marriage was.. ppl with money aren’t always happy
@Jennymule1
@Jennymule1 7 жыл бұрын
Paula Br how you gonna be happy with a person who cheats on you and look for every opportunity to degrade you?
@AranzaMtz
@AranzaMtz 5 жыл бұрын
@@Jennymule1 He cheated?
@jhordynsmith8339
@jhordynsmith8339 4 жыл бұрын
Bored? All they did was argue.
@dungeonmaster2953
@dungeonmaster2953 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@DylanRomanov
@DylanRomanov 4 жыл бұрын
She was a beautiful young girl when they met, I think they were definitely madly in love before but with being in the entertainment business I think they both focused more on their jobs than the marriage. I think it was time for them to part but I’m glad they had Logan together.
@mampotsotsosane9552
@mampotsotsosane9552 5 жыл бұрын
Her own sisters often cannot tolerate her, I'm not shocked at this. Its definitely not all her fault, but there's a selfishness that she has, it's too much sometimes. All the best for them both.
@BeautyFole
@BeautyFole 6 жыл бұрын
Reality shows always mess up relationships 🤦🏽‍♀️
@rubblegamesgaming1190
@rubblegamesgaming1190 6 жыл бұрын
A reality TV show will end a marriage quick
@mnw1555
@mnw1555 7 жыл бұрын
O, now Vince wanna act all humble!?! Tamar has a flip mouth, but MOST women do! Let's keep it 💯! We just ain't on tv 📺. DOES NOT excuse Vince's BULLYING & OBNOXIOUS behavior!!! I don't think this "divorce" was a stunt, cuz neither 1 of them can act! What I do feel is Vince thought Tamar was gone continue 2 put up w/ his BS & she called his bluff! If they work it out, God bless 'em. But, I highly advise couple & individual therapy. If not, co-parent & keep it moving. Tamar was n the game b4 Vince was n her life! Did he help? Yes. However, she don't NEED him! And by that 'he can have/has had many b's' comment, he don't need Tamar either! #hegotBeckywiththegoodhaironspeeddial
@nicolenunya984
@nicolenunya984 7 жыл бұрын
👏👏👏
@Jennymule1
@Jennymule1 7 жыл бұрын
Mia Reese have you seen her post on Instagram chyyyy it's the icing on the cake!
@mnw1555
@mnw1555 7 жыл бұрын
Jennymule1, no. I don't have the "gram". What she say?!?
@delicia1616
@delicia1616 7 жыл бұрын
She said he got another woman pregnant. She also had him arrested on christmas day for battery. The public record labeled the arrest under ex-spousal abuse.
@vanitycorleone7672
@vanitycorleone7672 6 жыл бұрын
thankya!
@ladytee7311
@ladytee7311 6 жыл бұрын
I pray that things work out for them and they get back together!
@sfwatxyo2162
@sfwatxyo2162 4 жыл бұрын
I bet Vince is so relieved that he got out of this mess when he did.
@janbran6744
@janbran6744 6 жыл бұрын
I wonder if they are separating so people suing him won't take her money too?
@Tthornton26
@Tthornton26 6 жыл бұрын
Tamar to me I think has been trying to express herself for a long time and Vince brushes it off
@teetawn9454
@teetawn9454 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, and then Vince wants to try when it hits him that he Does want her. Too late then.
@crystalinez831
@crystalinez831 7 жыл бұрын
those wigs are not good. I love Tamar but those skypieces are weird...
@tashagreen2686
@tashagreen2686 7 жыл бұрын
That's right ya'll fight for that marriage.
@shavonr3641
@shavonr3641 7 жыл бұрын
Tasha Green ddiabetisd
@shavonr3641
@shavonr3641 7 жыл бұрын
Diabetis
@sunnymarie2060
@sunnymarie2060 7 жыл бұрын
Love and war
@helensug507
@helensug507 6 жыл бұрын
Tasha Green Best comment
@truenative5251
@truenative5251 6 жыл бұрын
just me 😢😢
@garimosa86
@garimosa86 7 жыл бұрын
I’m On Vince side I really don’t see where he became an issue 🤔Tamar has to be a whole woman about the situation and admit she is difficult as hell she is being very unfair you mad at him over things he don’t tell you or you find out through other people😑 but then you went behind his back got a apartment than turned around and went behind his back again and got a damn divorce smh 🤦🏽‍♂️ are you serious I never not once heard Her actually say I was wrong or damn it’s me at the end of the day I really do believe she got to a place in her career and realized that that’s the only reason she’s been in the marriage anyway ☕️😒
@mrsrenea1784
@mrsrenea1784 Жыл бұрын
If you ain't happy GET OUT! WORKING ON THAT NOW!!!
@jpjboi1
@jpjboi1 7 жыл бұрын
Im not shocked she divorcing him she probably had enough of him yelling and disrespecting her in front of ppl since the first season of the show. Someone that u love u don’t speak them like that. Especially when u got company
@Baybay25
@Baybay25 4 жыл бұрын
Tamar is now being verbally abusvie to her now bf.
@angies7154
@angies7154 6 жыл бұрын
Your so call friends wish that had a man like Vince
@xo.hannah8352
@xo.hannah8352 4 жыл бұрын
Prime example of money doesn’t bring happiness
@babetruth6071
@babetruth6071 4 жыл бұрын
I love u Vince
@bigtiff2012
@bigtiff2012 3 ай бұрын
They always had people around when did they have alone time
@shadyogre6396
@shadyogre6396 3 жыл бұрын
Dang that Tamar’s friend expression and gesture when Vince’s talking... 🤣
@tyreecewoods2368
@tyreecewoods2368 7 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad that they are going to work it out I'm praying for them I'm tired of marriage breaking up I pray they make through this test every relationship is tested but. When you really love each other you will pull through the tough times SOMETIMES that isn't always the case
@b100allday2
@b100allday2 7 жыл бұрын
Tamar and Vince need to END THIS SHOW and focus on themselves and LOGAN..All you hear about are their feelings what about LOGAN NONE OF THIS IS HEALTHY FOR HIM and you can't say he don't be around this fighting and fussing if you can do in restaurants you do it at home..GOD SPARED BOTH TAMAR AND VINCE FROM DEATH GOD HAS A REASON..end this show take some time off from music and put all GOD left you with to fight for your family.It's hard trying to work on life when you got cameras in your family most of the time life is hard in privacy.God Spared you both GIVE GOD THE GLORY AND TELL THE DEVIL HE HAS NO ROOM IN YOUR LIFE..And the devil often times comes in a familiar faces.Don't let logan look back at these episodes and think his mom and dad really hated each other if you have to PRETEND to get a Divorce to get the world's attention than this is really sad because it shows no one was interested in what you two had going on UNTIL THEY FELT YOU TWO WERE ABOUT TO GO THUR SOMETHING BAD...how is that postive...good...healthy...????
@WALLACE0000
@WALLACE0000 7 жыл бұрын
First of all it take 2 to mess up a Marriage.... Glad the are cool and willing to take time and work on there Marriage.. God Bless You 2!!
@mspussygalore
@mspussygalore 7 жыл бұрын
*Head nod@Vince. We don't really know the inside story...I don't want to know it. Tamar does a lot of talking but lacks listening unless someone is cracking on that azz. She likes to throw mud but doesn't like it when its thrown back at her. She had a confrontation with Tracie, her sister, and Tracie was ready to snatch her if she said one more negative thing.* *Tamar doesn't listen to herself speak and I also believe she doesn't think a lot of the time before she says anything. She can be very shady& condescending at times. Another thing I noticed that I don't like is Tamar needs an audience for every damn thing!! She needs to feel like she's not alone or something. It's one thing to perform in front of 1000s of people but that needs to be left on stage. Here she comes with an enterouge(sp?)to dinners, trips, etc. No wonder Vince feels some type of way!! They have no quiet or down time together.* *Seriously, are they even having sex?? Theyre so wrapped up in the business, this is why their marriage has stopped. Can it be fixed? Hell yeah but it takes 2 and individually owning their bullswankey. Tamar needs to grow up and release the bratty ways. Its very unbecoming.*
@alexismichelle1083
@alexismichelle1083 7 жыл бұрын
Natalie Harris I swear you are the only one that posted that had common sense. Mostly everyone that commented blamed Vince. Why are people so ready to believe Tamar and what she said happened.
@cmapit3220
@cmapit3220 7 жыл бұрын
Have you ever considered that maybe she's afraid to be alone with Vince?
@Jennymule1
@Jennymule1 7 жыл бұрын
Natalie Harris girl why are you blaming just Tamar in your rant. The thing about Traci is she prolonged a problem when it should've been solved a long time ago. Yeah she went off on Tamar for some so called foolishness cause she was feeling some type of way and probably would've fought her but my question is why didn't she jump that stupid at Towanda when she brought up her husband's infidelity on national television and also leaked the information over Social Media and other blogs huh o I bet you forgot about that. The sisters still have animosity towards Tamar for ish that happened years ago that they've been harboring so no matter what Tamar say they are gonna feel some type of way. They all need work and they're all hard headed as hell and quick to anger not just Tamar. The sisters can be very hateful to but you don't see that. I guess you think its ok for her to get disrespected. Half the blowouts wasn't even her fault. Tamar has changed a lot since 2011 and she admits her fault when she knows she's at fault unlike her grudge coward sisters (except Toni)
@adrianewilliams8711
@adrianewilliams8711 7 жыл бұрын
Natalie Harris say that
@adrianewilliams8711
@adrianewilliams8711 7 жыл бұрын
Crystal Martin you are correct
@celesteleeann5706
@celesteleeann5706 7 жыл бұрын
The timing is suspect...but i think she was happy to be his wife as long as she benefited from his wealth, now she has buzz and doing more bookings she lost her need for him.
@elizabethmongonary8950
@elizabethmongonary8950 6 жыл бұрын
Celeste LeeAnn Oh it definitely a need for Vince he got there. That was easy, staying there is the hard part.
@siyabongagumede5870
@siyabongagumede5870 Жыл бұрын
Yes they are both at fault but Tamar's mouth is the number 1 reason why they are divorced. Her own family often times can't stand her because her mouth is wow. I have no words
@princessgigiking
@princessgigiking 6 жыл бұрын
I love your new apartment Tamar💜💜💜💜💜 #GetYourLife
@janiceaviles4965
@janiceaviles4965 6 жыл бұрын
Tamar and Vince still love each other you can see it in the show minus the arguments but other than that hopefully they are still together
@dmason5249
@dmason5249 7 жыл бұрын
I hope it works out for them!! 🙏
@Jennymule1
@Jennymule1 7 жыл бұрын
D Mason it's not check her Instagram
@tatyannamoore708
@tatyannamoore708 6 жыл бұрын
I ain't gonna lie, Tamar got a mouth on her that will make a person want to punch the mess out of her, but at the same time Vince has a mouth on him too. But we really don't know the inside of the story and it's really not any of our business but at the same time when you are on a reality show your business is already out there so why are y'all gonna do a reality show and y'all wanna keep y'all stuff private.
@tooley189
@tooley189 6 жыл бұрын
I always have respect for vents I think he's a nice guy and I think he needs to have a woman that is going to stick by him 1000% with the things he was going through and then when Tamar have a friends over and that's not good when you're having a discussion your friends don't need to be there while you're arguing you know and then you saying that he put his hands on you I don't know if that did happen or not but in my heart and my gut says he didn't do it but who knows but Tamar Braxton needs to chill with her attitude and later on it's going to affect their son Logan just like Vince said he don't want this that interfere with him later on as he get older and understand it's going to affect him and right now. Thinking about that and her sister
@blessing8b
@blessing8b 7 жыл бұрын
So she wins again! One for the forks. It took speaking up and moving on for Vincent to respect her as an wife and an employee. All they need now is to commit to the faith they both believe in and stop all the disrespecting one another. Tamar is officially grown up. Those were definitely grown up decisions she made. #gamecharger #gameover I've always said she was signing her story with Love and War and all the music before Bluebird. But what will follow will be nothing but GREAT! Now Vincent and the 3 bears, well you know, I don't believe. First he said his foot got stuck under the gas pedal. Then came the 3 bears, coyotes. Still would like to know the true about that. He's driven that road a million times, so he knows if animals are subject to run out. If so, u drive slower so you can stop. And I would like to hear more of how he told tTamar he knew about the apartment. Well, I give him half belief on that one because I know God does speak to his children and prepares them in some situations. Y'all gonna be fine. ❤️them both!
@cynthiajohnson8938
@cynthiajohnson8938 6 жыл бұрын
DMM Donna's Modification Motivation they're need to work it out
@keonpayne6330
@keonpayne6330 2 жыл бұрын
I’m glade she left him
@hiui243
@hiui243 6 жыл бұрын
It's a wonder poor vence haven't had a heart attack because I get palpitations trying to look at and and Listen to Tamar and her shenanigans , I can't do it.
@ec4383
@ec4383 7 жыл бұрын
I cant understand if this is all a gimmick, who would allow themselves to become known as an violent abuser???? This whole thing being on tv is strange
@tabbyc3970
@tabbyc3970 7 жыл бұрын
Ebony Cope Jackson because it is not. Vince would have sued a long time if it was not true. Tamar probably cannot speak about the abuse because of a clause in their marital agreement.
@Aliasss
@Aliasss 7 жыл бұрын
They HAD to film the show, they’re in a contractual agreement with the network. Once you get picked up for more seasons, you have to fulfill that obligation. No matter what’s going on in your personal
@tyreecewoods2368
@tyreecewoods2368 7 жыл бұрын
Ebony Cope Jackson me too I don't believe VINCE IS ABUSIVE BUT I DON'T KNOW BECAUSE SHE SEEMS LIKE SHE HAS A SIDE WHERE SHE (TAMAR) Doesn't TAKE CRAP FROM ANYONE
@Aliasss
@Aliasss 7 жыл бұрын
Tyreece Woods - .. and that means WHAT exactly ? That’s means Vince doesn’t have an aggressive side, or temper? - I don’t take crap from anyone either, but that doesn’t mean someone can’t just walk up to me, and punch me in the face right now. Granted I’ll knock their ass out cold after that, but their initiated punch still happened.
@demejj870
@demejj870 7 жыл бұрын
Ebony Cope Jackson The show never mentioned nor did they talk about the physical abuse. That came out in the media & thru her family. Tamar has never come out & said it either. As a strong minded, loud mouth woman (when I'm irritated), I have been in a physically abusive marriage. Your strength means nothing when you're being mentally & physically controlled by a man you love. I never initiated a first punch, hit, slap, or push, but I certainly did have the crap beaten out of me for years & stayed, just for simply voicing my thoughts & opinions. Thankfully, I finally got the courage to leave. People whom have never been involved in an abusive relationship just don't get it.
@kwanisecrenshaw3775
@kwanisecrenshaw3775 6 жыл бұрын
So this was 9months ago and she said on Wendy's Williams show and she said she was so in love with the new guy and been dating for three months so I don't understand how u go from being in love with Vince to being so in love with this new guy🤔🤔🤔🤔
@kimbermichelle3922
@kimbermichelle3922 7 жыл бұрын
Nobody know what was happening or happened in their life but them two.
@reginaharrigan7454
@reginaharrigan7454 2 жыл бұрын
Both needed counseling not just only him
@chanelrenee9506
@chanelrenee9506 6 жыл бұрын
Vince is pissed because Tamar be telling the truth... And he can't handle it, She should have left him a long time ago.
@mikat878
@mikat878 7 жыл бұрын
I will be so disgusted if all their acting out was just that...an act
@voodeux_badeux
@voodeux_badeux 7 жыл бұрын
Mika T get ready to be disgusting. All for ratings.
@mikat878
@mikat878 7 жыл бұрын
Voodoo Child Sad
@mikat878
@mikat878 7 жыл бұрын
Voodoo Child I hope Vince paid Sony with the money they received from this pathetic bogus story line. It's hard to believe that her mother was in on it. Wow...thats uber thirsty.
@voodeux_badeux
@voodeux_badeux 7 жыл бұрын
Mika T I knew something was fishy when the allegations came out a week before the show. I think people in the industry that are close to them know the truth and thats why he was able to sign Remy Ma and Xscape. This shit aint real...Evelyn is probably embellishing the truth just a lil bit. There is probably abuse but I doubt it's one sided..Tamar is hardly innocent. What black mother you know is going to barricade herself in a room while her daughter is being beat...Chile please...lol. She didn't call the 'law' because she knew her daughter could also be taken to jail. Evelyn is the blue bird of fabrication and lies.
@Jennymule1
@Jennymule1 7 жыл бұрын
Mika T It's not an act at all. The show is over and this is the last season of Tamar&Vince, and they still have stuff going on. Have you checked her Instagram better yet someone posted her Instagram on KZbin. It done went from bad to hella worse
@crystalgrose
@crystalgrose 6 жыл бұрын
That was sad to me when Tamar took the ring off. It makes me feel sad to see marriages end because of infidelity or whatever else. Wishing both the best because I am a Tamaritian, and I like Vince also.
@illblancame.9420
@illblancame.9420 7 жыл бұрын
Amen I love y'all relationship 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽💪🏽💪🏽🙌🏾🙌🏾💯💯💯💯 Yall are winners. marriage is everything❤️❤️❤️
@leslieburgess6985
@leslieburgess6985 4 жыл бұрын
I bet he did have her followed.
@roslynshaw7103
@roslynshaw7103 6 жыл бұрын
Both of them is at fault..it is not just Vince..she is also a piece if work.
@JustBree716
@JustBree716 7 жыл бұрын
the way mama evelyn went on a vince is abusive tour i dount theyll get back together
@chyna116
@chyna116 6 жыл бұрын
why on earth are y'all arguing about somebody else's marriage lol none of us knows what really happened
@kashataylor6430
@kashataylor6430 7 жыл бұрын
LOVE VINCENT
@JesstheCreative1
@JesstheCreative1 7 жыл бұрын
If he was really about taking responsibility it would be that, not trying to say what they or she is, but what HE needs to do.
@gemini365ayear
@gemini365ayear 4 жыл бұрын
Is it me or does Vince look like Neyo
@lasnaunawatson9912
@lasnaunawatson9912 7 жыл бұрын
That woman has a whole bunch of issues it’s not just Vince it’s her to it’s call self accountability she even treated her sisters nasty they only deal with her because their siblings Tamar actually has a problem & women today don’t see it. Chile bye as hard as it is to keep a black man
@thetruth5098
@thetruth5098 7 жыл бұрын
Lasnauna Watson shut up
@lasnaunawatson9912
@lasnaunawatson9912 7 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣 when speaking the truth bitches hate it, No fucker make me shut up 💁🏽‍♀️ how bout that
@pattirobinson8436
@pattirobinson8436 7 жыл бұрын
Lasnauna Watson I hear you girl
@lasnaunawatson9912
@lasnaunawatson9912 7 жыл бұрын
Patti Robinson seriously everybody blaming Vince like Tamar doesn’t play a part in this,
@likemindedlm4283
@likemindedlm4283 6 жыл бұрын
Lasnauna Watson Thanks for this comment!
@mrsdavidbanner8577
@mrsdavidbanner8577 4 жыл бұрын
Y do I like him more than her
@bagzboo7373
@bagzboo7373 2 жыл бұрын
To gather men around her son. Trust him.
@joannesambrano1461
@joannesambrano1461 7 жыл бұрын
The only thing I understand out of his mouth is hurt and disappointed after that makes no sense
@marywilliams153
@marywilliams153 5 жыл бұрын
In my heart I believed Tamar didn't wanted to be back with Vince..both are at faults here, Tamar do things & truely her action , she don't tell all the fact,s.It takes two, but I think she was looking elsewhere & needed to get out of the relationship.
@gporche789
@gporche789 7 жыл бұрын
slow down Tamar...although nobody knows your pain like you and the most high.....Although, its better to marry than to burn. .DIVORCE SHOULD NOT BE AN OPTION....PRAY. Just make it work sweetie....trust me its hard. I know first hand. Stay lit and strong
@rmdeezy5743
@rmdeezy5743 7 жыл бұрын
U put her UP! Now ALL she do is put u DOWN nd put u LAST! LEAVE! REAL MEN STAND UP!!!
@JustJess757
@JustJess757 7 жыл бұрын
This shit staged lol
@brumfieldcrewcaa9987
@brumfieldcrewcaa9987 2 жыл бұрын
Y'all acting like Tamar is innocent in this whole situation it takes two people
@Yamonal
@Yamonal 2 жыл бұрын
O I watched but I don't what happened when cam off then mother came out of no where Vince fuck her up wow they did a good job hiding that the 🙄😱
@crystalmorrison1616
@crystalmorrison1616 4 жыл бұрын
Disagreement is natural but if arguements are 95% of the time and peace is 5% that's a failed relationship
@Morris774
@Morris774 7 жыл бұрын
I guarantee this was all for ratings! How well yall think this show was doing compared to the Braxtons? But Tamar thought she was the star of the Braxtons. I put money on the fact the ratings were not good. What makes ratings drama and chaos. But at what expense? Your marriage is sacred, yoir family is sacred. You did all this for a check! How many couples survive reality tv? Her Ego is so Big! I remember when the Braxtons first started all she fussed about what him making her a star and no more doo wop wop pop. He did that. Give him credit he did it. Then Tamar has a falling out with Vince bestie who produced that first album which was fire!!! Also notice not one sibling is on Vince and Tamar? Why? The whole thing doesnt pass the smell test at all! Turn them camera’s off and yall ish together!
@margaretspeed1073
@margaretspeed1073 4 жыл бұрын
Praying for Tamar and Vince they have been blessed with a beautiful son, hopefully they will stay praying and put God and Their child the head of their life because everything will follow.Praying that Tamar will grow up love her dearly she need to step and look how far God has bought her and I'm not just speaking money and fame I'm talking about the importance of her husband an child that's more valuable money and the spot life. God bless you guys.
@margaretspeed1073
@margaretspeed1073 4 жыл бұрын
Sho you right.
@marquitap1660
@marquitap1660 6 жыл бұрын
Its easy for us to give our opinions based on what there media and edited footage of their issues but honestly it's their marriage.Their vows said for better or worse til death do us part... It didn't say til social light, media, or other people do us part. We have to learn not to be so judgemental on other people problems bc it just may be you one day.
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