we argue about The Fall Guy

[@jacobp8294]

Nadia is the optimism within me who wants to enjoy the simple joy of film, Jake is the dark evil spirit that drives me to commit heinous crimes at night.

[@MostlyTrue]

Nadia in the streets, Jake in the sheets

[@Farfaramir]

Im not with Jake with this. This was such a 90 movies in a great way. Such a blast. Go Nadia this time!

[@lipsontajgordongrunk4328]

I don’t agree with Jake at all. It’s tongue in cheek, it’s not serious, it’s not deep, but it’s not terrible either.

[@SaberRexZealot]

Yeah it’s not pretentious about what it is - it’s irreverently stupid and not meant to be taken seriously. That being said, I didn’t really like it that much either. It’s just a mid2000s cheesy action rom com, which I was never ever fond of lol.

[@obscure.reference]

@@SaberRexZealot how many of those have such great action and stuntwork though

[@Thephantom95]

Honestly, i prefer The Fall Guy over Aryglle in my opinion. I felt that The Fall Guy had better pacing, the humor was better and it didn't overstayed it's welcome.

[@SaberRexZealot]

It’s like the difference between a 5/10 and a 6/10 lol

[@Ronnoco_Den]

Karaoke in the middle of the day makes sense if you’ve ever worked on a film set. You take your breaks when they come because you’ve been on set for 16 hours.

[@Kabbo__05]

Jake and Nadia agrue? Okay that means Jake hated it.

[@XxJiiGSAWx]

I agree with most of what Jake says but I still feel like it was entertaining enough to just about rise above it all. No where near Argylle levels let's not lose our heads.

[@syphex8008]

i hate movies like this where they have the potential to have actual serious moments, something the whole film is leading up to and then they immediately ruin any tension or anything they create by going "erm that just happened" (also your dogs are really cute)

[@LuisSierra42]

It's fallin' time!

[@TheOnlyRick3]

Its a comedy!!!

[@SaberRexZealot]

@@TheOnlyRick3 true, but there are just, much better comedies than this. This film was kinda gutless.

[@TheOnlyRick3]

@@SaberRexZealot personally I loved it

[@SaberRexZealot]

@@TheOnlyRick3 fair enough I guess

[@Ryanin2D]

i love how you guys sometimes celebrate in each other's disagreements. not all the time, but enough that it's honestly something i look forward to when watching your reviews.

[@Fallingwithstyle1995]

I get where you’re both coming from! I think the first act of this movie is what feels miscalculated- it’s shallowly self-referential with how it’s constantly comparing the movie to their lives, there’s not enough focus on the romance, and there isn’t enough driving the story forward. BUT… then that big action setpiece crosscut with karaoke happened, and that’s when the movie grabbed me and didn’t let go! You definitely suspect something shady is happening, but the twist was the exact jolt of energy this movie needed to raise the stakes and make the romance something to truly fight for! It also stopped trying to be meta and just shifted its focus into being a genuinely thrilling action movie in its own right. So glad I didn’t see the trailer that spoiled the ending, because for me, this movie ended up actually having some of the most fun and fist-pumping action I’ve seen since Top Gun: Maverick. So I went from being mildly underwhelmed to thinking this is exactly how a great blockbuster should feel! I suspect this movie will have a cult following kind of like Gosling’s other underrated action comedy The Nice Guys, while also inspiring people to pursue filmmaking since it’s such a love letter to every person on set! Honestly, I’m thinking 9/10.

[@katie-allen]

Okay you said this so well!! Exactly how I’m feeling about it too. 9/10 from me as well!!

[@Fallingwithstyle1995]

@@katie-allen Glad to hear you enjoyed it too, Katie! I’m curious, since we seem to have similar taste in movies! What have been your favorite films of the year so far? In addition to Fall Guy, mine would be Inside Out 2, Hundreds of Beavers, Challengers, Hit Man, Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes, The Idea of You, Orion and the Dark, and IF!

[@clairemitch4301]

Looking forward to hearing this 😊

[@booksmarts42]

Did anyone realise that this movie was an adaptation of an old TV series? It's not quite a one-to-one kind of adaptation, but it's a similar premise, same name, etc. Also, I did enjoy the movie. Mostly because I feel like this movie does three things: It's not something absolutely incredible and constantly breathtaking or anything, but it's just a fun movie, and sometimes I just want to watch a fun movie. It celebrates the team behind movies, and I live for that. It follows the same stride as a lot of really great, classic 80s-90s movies and even passes a lot of them, so I feel like saying this one is bad and they aren't is just blind nostalgia, and I want to give this movie a chance to not just get steamrolled. Plus, movies haven't been great recently, so I feel like that raises my evaluation some.

[@einnorw]

i like that it was all fun, i havent had fun at the movies since barbie

[@Totally_Not_Sarcastic]

Wake me up when Nadia doesn't like a movie. Her scale goes from 6-10.

[@smajet5640]

She strongly disliked Argylle and Madame Web, I'm pretty sure.

[@Farfaramir]

And this movie was fun. She is not wrong

[@jamespilcher4069]

Fuck it I'm gonna say it Jake does respect the craft of filmmaking or stuntmen

[@drewcotten]

Yall are so great. Thanks for another great video

[@iarland9693]

Spot on about the Ryan Reynolds thing. It was like a Ryan Reynolds Netflix film.

[@SaberRexZealot]

100% agree about the Ryan Reynolds comparison. It really does feel like his kind of wheelhouse where he just has fun with his friends making a silly, likeable but ultimately inoffensive product. Besides the stunts, which are good, the characters were unbelievably flat, the comedy extremely pedestrian, the editing distracting and the humour overly referential. At the risk of being a pretentious elitist, it’s a normy film. There’s nothing wrong with that, but it’s nothing special either. It’s only disappointing because Gosling has done amazing comedy work in the past like Crazy Stupid Love or The Nice Guys or Barbie - this has so little imagination and tension in comparison. You guys remember Tropic Thunder? That’s how you do this kind of film in my opinion.

[@josephreusch]

I gave the film a 7/10 same as Nadia, it wasn’t as good as I was hoping but it is the first film I have gotten my wife to go see in the theater in a long time and she actually enjoyed it. I felt there should have been more comedy throughout, it was there but not a lot of laugh out loud moments. The film also felt too long at 2 hrs it should have been 1hr 45mins max I feel for the type of story being told. Loved both the lead actors and really loved the surprise cameo at the end which I won’t spoil but that was genius!

[@lukapitkanen3333]

I remember the trailer being a lot funnier than the movie itself. I was very dissapointed. This was definitely a Ryan Reynolds type movie but Gosling being there instead made it a lot more tolerable at least.

[@gizzardgizzard3583]

can't wait for fall guy 2: amogus

[@dishes2wash11]

I agree it seemed like a long snl sketch. I was actually thinking that while watching it!

[@JeskidoYT]

that would be The Good Burger

[@TheOnlyRick3]

I loved it

[@closeben]

Nadia’s reaction at the beginning xD

[@NTWoo95]

I hated every scene with dialogue. The scene would rely on a joke but then it would continue for minutes after the joke had ran its course and it felt like the case against letting actors improvise. That being said the dialogue is just moving us from one action scene to the next and they were all very fun. Its like a Universal stunt show, the story is absolutely back seat and its the action/stunts you're there for

[@obscure.reference]

like a miami vice stunt show in some ways

[@Inferno-Dante]

I am with Nadia on this one 100%. Plus, I loved Nadia’s Jim-style looks directly into the camera when she disagreed, lollll best part. This movie is not supposed to be taken seriously, I don’t know why are people digging so deep into it. It’s ridiculous in a good way, it’s not pretentious, it’s not really logical and tbh wasn’t trying to be. It is there to poke fun at the industry while entertain you a lil on the way. It achieved just that for me, I was laughing the whole time. And I thought that they had decent chemistry, it sparkled. P.S. I felt about Barbie what Jake felt about this movie.

[@mentallyunstable1926]

came here from the loki video where i agreed 100% with jake and now im like woah. i disagree with almost every single one of his points. ive seen this movie like 4 times now and if im being real it does not hold up after a few rewatches you just see so many plot holes but i'm completely fine with that bc to me this is a love letter to action movies. the plot is paper thin and it doesnt hold up under a microscope and i love it because the plot is a vehicle for everyone working on this to express their appreciation for action as a whole and in that way it felt earnest to me, especially when they contrast the normal love story with the insane unrealistic fights. ive thought about this movie a lot since i watched it in theaters and im actually really glad i watched someone who disagreed because it really made me understand more why i liked it thank you for ranting

[@richard_normal]

finally i find somebody i agree with on this movie! thank you jake! i feel like im going crazy with how positive people are on this one!

[@tonihagan6330]

I thought it was blast! I can watch this again and again.

[@landonweldy5468]

The whole murder mystery plot in this movie makes zero sense

[@ronankermit]

It wasn't terrible, but it wasn't good. The action sequence at the end dragged on forever and the only interesting scene in the first part was where the two leads are having a phone conversation in split screen and discussing their past relationship through the filter of a film plot, which was an interesting use of meta-narrative or subtext.

[@doctorpretender]

I had a blast watching this movie!

[@jarltrippin]

Same issue with Bullet Train by the same director: really great, enjoyable action, tarnished by Marvel-esque humour. I enjoy these types of films for the spectacle, but tonally, they're complete messes.

[@JeskidoYT]

what about The Challengers?

[@oreganoed8913]

Bullet train was great.

[@IsaacBTTF]

Somehow, I liked The Fall Guy for what it was (it's like a 7/10 for me), but at the same time I don't disagree with Jake's overall criticism. In fact his comments on the winking at the audience and it being more of a stereotypical Ryan Reynolds film made me realise what was kind of bothering me about the film but I couldn't quite articulate it.

[@NemoNobodySMT]

I have to agree with Jake here, Emily and Ryan has zero chemistry, I didn't buy their love story, it feels lame, it feels like the film are trying to tell us they are in love, kiss, hug, etc. But the actual act of love, of caring deeply is not there, it's just like they following the script and didn't got any love pour into each other. I wacthed Hit Man recently, another romcom on Netflix, didn't have any action in it, but the moment Glen's character show his care to Adria's character, I just believe it. Emily and Ryan characters doesn't have any moment like that.

[@ChuckDarwin1909]

Ok I was dedicated to seeing this movie no matter what because my small time local theater just reopened and I really wanted to support them. I saw the 1.5 review on letterboxed just before I went in, so expectations were low. Really though, I thought it was a pretty good experience. Unapologetically corny, never taking itself seriously for one second. Not every funny moment worked, but enough of it did to call it passable. I remember at the flaming dock scene, I thought the movie was winding down, that this was the resolution - and I found myself wanting more. Fortunately there was a lot more. I'd recommend it, 3.5 stars. It is true, though, that I eventually recalled that very iconic scene from the trailer as well and realized we still hadn't seen that- I agree that it was wrong to include the climax in the trailer like that, killin us.

[@logicnik1064]

4:10 OMG it all makes sense now

[@deannickname]

Gotta agree with Jake here. I felt that Gosling just wasn't good in this. I guess I don't really know what "cheesy" means anymore. Is it just making broad jokes and then winking at the audience?

[@kikompray]

when i first saw this video i hadn't watched the movie but i though i would be leaning more on nadia's side, but after watching it i realized that i agree 100% with jake, this movie is nothing, the characters feel flat the plot makes no sense and nothing is allowed to breath, it's just bad joke after bad joke, i would give it a 4/10.

[@indiekeshav404]

I feel like Jake Gyllenhaal is the better action star...Ryan is trying so hard to fit in the genre with The Grey Man and now The Fall Guy...whereas Jake felt more like a natural fit in Ambulance and Roadhouse. David Leitch is such a hollow shell of a director, watching the rest of John Wick films...you can see Chad Stahelski's natural growth and progression as a filmmaker. While David Leitch's career feels "leeching" off on other filmmaker's styles and trademarks. This is a minor criticism but I hate how his films are colour graded, it seems like a KZbinr trying to create a more cinematic look to their videos. He's trying so hard to give his films some personality but it ends up annoying in an attention seeking child kind of way. I think the filmmakers behind The Lost City would have done a much better job with this material.

[@mate1030]

I am sorry Nadia but I side with Jake's opinion. This movie has nothing to say and it is not a great hangout movie because there is no chemistry it is just forced

[@iaani_]

I liked it, but it felt like it was 3hrs long with the 3rd act joke they had going on. Went in expecting great stunts, action, and no substance and that's what we got. It's kind of in this awkward position where it's about stunt crews, but in the end it's mostly Gosling that gets people to see this. I feel like they could've done a lot more with the fact that stunt people get limited recognition and combine that with the wink at audience kinda humor. Can see this being a 4-7/10, I just thought there were enough smart moments (tbh, can't recollect them, so maybe not lol) to cancel out the cheesy-ness. 7/10

[@TheOnlyRick3]

10/10 for me

[@ConnerNielsen6]

Jake is so on the money with this one.

[@JScottGaribay]

Fantastic Video! Nadia was right and Jake was wrong. Thank you so much for being willing to share the friction. I loved the movie and my wife thought it was OK.

[@pencilsdobetasty]

I hope it didnt sound that i was only talking to jake, i think you should read berserk together!! Such a nice mangy, i think its perfect for a couple reading!!? You both should really give it a try, its amazing. Cant wait for the video that youll make about it!?

[@neerajcherukuri4052]

What should I do for you to stop recommending Berserk in every video?

[@caiusactinunwise1412]

oh you again

[@JoeSkeen]

This is the first movie I walked out on in years. I had no idea it was mostly a romantic comedy and was so bored.

[@JeskidoYT]

This would have been a sleeper hit like bullet train if Barbie never happened

[@ZO6Buccaneer]

Strongly disagree with Jake. This was immensely better than Argyle.

[@MrSnape77]

Yeah, I'm definitely in the not-like camp. Most of the jokes didn't hit. And even though a lot of the action was in concept really cool, it was filmed or edited in a way that didn't impress me at all. That's bad for a comedy-action film.

[@al_3x912]

I’m sad to say I agree with Jake, this was kind of unfathomable

[@ggadams639]

I learned that people rate things they like because they liked something specific from it, they don't value something overall, which is weird to think about. So since Ryan Gosling is hype, the movie for sure happens to have a greater reception. Same for Fallout which is a pretty fun show, but isn't really at the level of what it should and could be... It's a bit frustrating, but it's why studios only make remakes, because even if it kinda sucks, those people will say it's "good" because they either liked the original, or an actor in it... The difference before in the cinema industry, is that an actor you like, usually a good actor, usually made good movies. Now a good actor is certainly not a guaranteed good movie. Even Jack Gyllenhaal made that fighting movie recently that is pretty mid, Henry Cavill is cursed, Keanu Reeves has better roles in games. There is maybe Tom Cruise that still managed to have some kind of reputation, producing his own movies kinda help. It's easy to kill the trust of consumers, something that they studios don't think about for short profits. Just a shame for the US. But maybe the cinema will come from somewhere else, like the british shows are pretty good.

[@lothianedwards7816]

Man carrying unpopular opinion

[@liamisawsome]

This movie should've been about the other fall guy(s)

[@lotsofrenee]

Jake has become my enemy

[@schnaarbar5786]

I'm really not sure why they picked exclusivley scenes from the climax to show in the trailor, there were tons of other action scenes they could of taken from. I thought the movie was fun and silly, there was some good action and really funny moments, it wasn't great just fun.

[@hitoshinohara6160]

I almost watched it yesterday, guess i dodged a bullet

[@TheOnlyRick3]

Its so good bro

[@kenraves7931]

OMFG thanks for comparing it to Argyle, but I can admit that it's just not for me. If my partner wants to see it, I'll just tune out a bit or something.

[@TheOnlyRick3]

Its nothing like argyle it’s miles better and it’s pacing and sense is better

[@jeffmartin5066]

Wow if you hated the Fall Guy ... A PG-13 action comedy movie that really does nothing offensive... Then maybe the problem lies with you? Lol lighten up bro. It's like everybody has forgotten how to watch movies nowadays... Just have fun for 2 hours and then move on with your life like normal people lol

[@myliah7401]

It's not that serious you know

[@grim_2000]

​@@myliah7401 we know. It seems that Jake doesn't know though.

[@theamazingjason3729]

Loved the fall guy.😂😂

[@tomasmercadoeckhardt2710]

no way fall guys

[@SkewbleRants]

finally i feel proud of jake for not saying bs about a movie and not glazing it like he did challengers.

[@Ydubber777]

😅

[@PinePlanet]

1 min no views i think he is going down

[@TagardMC]

I loved this film, can't agree with Jake. My head space has been doing tech for a stage performance so I fell in love with the stunt crew who love Making things work and seeing a plan come together and my tech crew has been doing the thumbs up on a lot this past week so this movie worked on all cylinders. I played hookie from my day job to see this and loved it.

[@henrytong8707]

Loved the Fall Guy TV series with Lee Majors. A lot of Gen X'er still remember that show fondly. It's not forgotten as most Gen Z reviewers seems to suggest. Ryan is funny but he is no Lee Majors.The movie is too WOKE so I think this is the reason the movie may bomb........Can't wait to see the remake of Jake and the Fatman (it's a real 80's detective show starring Joe Penny and William Conrad).

[@MondayMorningLiveZ]

Man, I disagree with you so hard on casting Ryan Reynolds instead of Ryan Gosling. He would've sucked every bit of harmless fun right out of Fall Guy. Love your content! ❤

[@napilopez]

man carries bad take 😢

[@carbine125]

Agree with Jake. Terrible film and not even that funny either. Compare this to the Nice Guys, which does everything better. Bullet Train was vastly better than this film by the same director, too. The terrible plotting really let this film down.

[@TheOnlyRick3]

I don’t agree with you at all but I respect your opinion, I personally loved this movie

[@harrybehemoth2751]

It was just a fun goofy acttion movie with a dash of romance. No more or less. Jake seems to have wanted it to be something much deeper. This is like the definition of the term "popcorn movie". It's a reboot of a goofy 80's action tv show. I enjoyed it more than Barbie.

[@user-friendly-b6q]

Argylle is a cinema gem compared to the Fall Guy.

[@oreganoed8913]

):

[@Cryin98]

Terrible movie with terrible plot holes.

[@TheOnlyRick3]

In your opinion it’s terrible but it’s genuinely a good movie

[@obscure.reference]

“waaah why isnt it a 3.5 hr epic about t.e. lawrence’s time in arabia” nice try dude

[@Cryin98]

@@obscure.reference what? I like simple movies too. I just don’t like how the entire films plot could be solved with a phone call lol

[@obscure.reference]

@@Cryin98 i didnt like any of the romance stuff but the actual plot is about some scumbag actor killing someone over his own impotence and a producer covering it up, which is not the kind of thing resolved by a phone call, and does not have terrible plot holes.

[@Cryin98]

@@obscure.reference why did they bother to ask Ryan goslings character to investigate the murder when they could have simply invited him to the set, do the stunts, and released the footage? He wouldn’t have found out that way? Even then, wouldn’t their whole plan be ruined when the autopsy reveal that he’s been dead longer than Ryan gosling’s been in town? Why didn’t he just email the footage to himself, before the phone was destroyed? And on top of all that, it was an accident - it’s not like he (ATJ) murdered him on purpose. He didn’t even murder him! - Just poorly written excuses in the film imo. It’s like a really bad version of the second ace attorney case lol.