We Blind Tested iRacing Set Up Shops And Ranked Them

[@P1Doks]

Thanks for reviewing our setups. It's really interesting to watch! We truly build our setups to be competitive in top split, and we also race our setups there. They are not cheap at 20$ sub or 6$ per setup , but I'm glad people are liking it.

[@tmurglaze704]

How do I get on board

[@DannyGiusa]

vouch for P1 As former DNLS Champ I tried their AMG Nordschleifen Setup and they spilled no beans, actually included some tricks in the setup, which unfold the whole performance of the AMG, also using clever damper setups instead of the "MIN/MAX" what sometimes other do.

[@danieldematospreto2471]

Bro you guys NEED a better website.

[@P1Doks]

@@danieldematospreto2471 we have had problems with our domain, itll be fixed later today

[@vincepeeters4455]

P1 are quickly rising through the ranks to become the 🐐 of setup shops.

[@oscarberntsson7013]

As a vrs user I’m every happy with it, you get a setup that’s fast and is similar to the fixed ones in a good way so it’s easy to jump from fixed to open. You also get a lot of extras like detailed track guides, setups to A LOT of cars, telemetry and much more.

[@mrj3217]

I am about 1 year into my iRacing career and have used CarigsSS, Majors Garage, Maconi SS, and I used Watson SS for most of the time. I run all Nascars series primarily but I also run Open-Wheel and GTE some IMSA stuff. I just don't feel any set up shop setups open sets are winning set ups that give you a technical mechanical advantage to like maximize grip, top speed, areo, and tire wear. I know skill does a lot but I have spoken to experienced high IR/pro guys who say the setup alone is a 1k+ IR gainer driving the exact same way. The only difference is the setup gets more out of the tires.

[@rudiscoo]

Every other sound out of my mouth this video: *bwoaaah* *skill issue noises* Thanks for having me on, was fun getting out of my open wheel comfort zone and giving the GT3 a spin (both figuratively and literally)!

[@TechSalvager]

I think that helps lower irating\skills folks have an idea that some setups are fast but there is a reason they are fast.

[@The_Precisionist]

The thing that was weirding me out more than anything was the amount of natural light in your room. 😂

[@rudiscoo]

@@The_Precisionist Proof that I am not, in fact, a vampire 🧄🧛

[@zakarypflieger2239]

Now we just need the Hulu bundle of sim racing setup shops

[@eorton3]

Good idea to get the opinons of drivers with differing skill levels, nice video.

[@BW_87]

Interesting (and good) to hear that the times between them all are minimal. I use VRS as they have lap guides and the telemetry tools are good as well. Nice vid man. Enjoyed it

[@X1erra]

Love it. I'm always on the edge about which setup shops I pick because there's no way to "try" setups without buying it and I cannot justify buying multiple setups as I live in a much poorer country than the US. Thanks for helping me decide on what to go with moving forward.

[@nathancad]

I cant wait to hear what Daniel Morad has to say about this

[@daniel_gray10]

Thicccccc

[@dannyleeracing]

This was a great test - setups are like clothes, you've just gotta try out a bunch of them and see what fits because everyone's built a little different. Setup shops also change and morph over time as the people behind the scenes change, and you might prefer VRS's setup for one car, and Craig's on another, because they're made by different people. Long story short, those that spend the time investigating which one fits them best will extract more of their potential speed. Most of the time I use VRS, but when Pure Driving School was more popular I used to love theirs even though theirs were REALLY knife edge. Also had a fling with Craig's.

[@thatextraguy21]

Me and my team just get so used to what to expect from a VRS setup that we've never really bothered to try looking for another setup to migrate to. It's not just the learning process of new setups but also the convenience factor for me that makes me stay with VRS.

[@daniel_gray10]

If there is anything this test taught me, its that sticking with one set up and just learning how to drive it well is probably better!!

[@thatextraguy21]

@@daniel_gray10 Probably can't say the same for iRacing Baseline setup though 🤣

[@pierrepaniagua]

This could almost be a weekly video when the new season starts up. I would still like to hear the opinion on HYMO and also include Ryco Performance. Looks like P1Dok was liked the most amongst you all.

[@Chuckle_1]

Good to see the blind test, time to go with what feels good, not the crowd favorite fast set.

[@BlizzardExtreme]

Love the review and i must say coming from a 2k driver myself and getting sent setups made by people that are 5k i can never drive the car to their standard and always struggle with their setups. People who create setups have to remember everyone has a different driving style and plus not one setup can cater all level of drivers like this video goes to show. I honestly feel like if these people want to do better then they need a wider variety of setups for different skill levels. It's like saying to me here you go drive the Ferrari that Carloz won in around Melbourne and here is his setup now match his lap time.... would never happen lol. GG's on the video keep them coming

[@justincarrizosa3367]

Plug and play Craig’s is definitely slower but after some tweaks (usually with rear aero) I find it to be one of the most reliable and they always have setups that can tank kerbs

[@iimmolarious7636]

Really fun to watch, should make these more often

[@icedtea5433]

Holy moly Daniel making content and not just streaming, I'm here for it.

[@galaxian_hitchhiker]

I’m surprised that HYMO and GnG not turned out to be same 😂

[@GuppyMilk334]

I have tried three setup shops, and it's hard to compare because different people are making the setups. One week, you love the Porsche GT3 setup, and the next week, someone else makes the setup for the Porsche, and you just hate it. I have tried VRS, GnG, and Coach Dave subscriptions, and I personally found GnG to be the best for me overall. As a driver with a 3.5k iRating, these setups seem to suit me the best. I like that they often have both normal and safe setups, and when I'm not feeling the normal setup, I can always control the safe setup.

[@daviddanser8011]

Glad coach Dave holds up nice, I use them as the delta app is very useful as well. For 10 a month I don’t think I will look elsewhere. Nice and informative video! 🙏🏻

[@blacknovella]

same... and its funny i felt the same of the 296 spa setup.. i gave it 2 clicks on the rear wing. and problem solved.. you can stay pinned then.. i found that otherwise id have to life or that rear is comin out..

[@NoHacksTSR]

It’s funny that I find the coach Dave setups very “slippery” like driving on ice. I don’t like them personally

[@nat2r]

as a rookie I don't have immediate use for this, but I do know that I will remember it for when I need it. thanks boys

[@gvnthomas]

Nice to see this sort of test haven't heard of a couple of these (P1 Doks, Grid & Go) and surprised Pure didn't make the list regardless still to see a test like this. But honestly, since iRacing introduced the Low, Medium and High Downforce Sets I stopped using setup shops, like you said the pace is similar on all sets just they extract it in different ways. I'm a 2.5k GT driver when things are going my way but until I start making top split regular and not once a year paying for setups doesn't make sense.

[@markc3456]

As another video it would be interesting to see how much pace everyone would extract from making the most basic adjustments (i.e. change ARB settings) on their own vs the default.

[@m1northreat]

craigs user here. i think setups are sometimes hit or miss. ive used some of their setups and was def at pace with the good drivers. i have also had setups where i cant get a clean lap in without driving super slow or just crashing out. craigs is ez for me tho since i dont really have to spend actual cash to sub. great vid btw!

[@daniel_gray10]

Big agree! Craigs is usually really good, but this set up was definitely off haha

[@Swindog00]

@@daniel_gray10 I use craigs and have done for years. Far better for how i drive vs VRS and Majors. I have won many races with Craigs. If i do have an issue its usually a quick damper adjustment. My mates who i race with are professional drivers in real life. I can stay with them in league and often battling them with the Craigs so its very subjective to feel and ability.

[@owencaryl]

Ight, now time for a GTP test 👺

[@daniel_gray10]

Coming soon!! What track and GTP would you recommend for it?

[@P1Doks]

let's gooo!!

[@owencaryl]

@@daniel_gray10 Acura and probably spa again 😂 (before next season at least)

[@marijn17s]

Porsche of cadillac at Le Mans

[@Ivanoskyao]

The best setup doesn’t exist. The best setup is the one that is best for you, for your driving style. What is best for you might not be best for me

[@vpreggie]

Noob questions; “Deffy” Meaning?

[@daniel_gray10]

“Deathy” as in the set up is on edge, easy to spin out, easy to crash

[@jesse8875]

@@daniel_gray10that has to be the most zesty way of saying that 😂 love it

[@AceBlake]

I wish we could somehow do this test for every IMSA car and track! Craig's LMP2 at Le Mans for me is a whole bunch quicker than VRS for example, and has way better tyre wear.

[@_rnzr]

ive been vindicated, im using craigs shop just because the twitch prime but i knew they were fast but dangerous, tail happy

[@BKWilliamsJnr]

Good vid mate. It’s almost like DG is becoming a KZbinr 😂

[@richdelmazzio9890]

I bounce back and forth between VRS and GnG. I find that GnG isn’t good for the Porsche Cup (most times) and VRS isn’t always the best with the GT3-R.

[@Bartaaron04]

Interesting video, would be interesting to see this kind of stuff for other cars too, like prototypes or open wheelers, as sometimes setup shops have great setups for some cars, but pretty mid ones for another type of car

[@syksyk12]

Very nice and informative video. Hopefully you make one using any formula cars :)

[@icbevan]

I enjoyed this, really good content, cheers

[@notyou2935]

Sort of surprised you didn't try Pure Driving School. Excellent choice including different iRating levels.

[@NochEinKamel]

I just use craigs because its feee with prime subscription xD What would be interesting too see is how the optimized iracing setups that they ship for some cars compete against the shops.

[@drirrefutable2180]

Really interesting insights!

[@JackOldenburg]

Danial love your streams and videos keep doing what you’re doing man

[@Sethsimracing]

I'm curious about Ryco Motorsports as well, lots of people saying that they're very good.

[@LondonBikerReal]

13:28 thats Raidillon actually 🤣

[@daniel_gray10]

In the most loving way possible... bugger off 😂

[@LondonBikerReal]

@@daniel_gray10 Glady good sir 😂

[@99blahblahblah]

You need to do this for ovals! Especially with the new truck build!

[@seattletyler]

What is the reason for the coach Dave bias? Are they low in customer satisfaction? I’m new to all the setup stuff edit: bias; meaning what would have you thinking they had the slowest setup, before going into the test?

[@daniel_gray10]

Honestly I’d just heard bad things and the past sets I’d used were not good, however this test clearly shows not to judge them so easily haha!

[@TechSalvager]

LMP2 testing next, lets go

[@duck74UK]

No surprise craigs ended up where it did. I wanted my free back when I tried that one out.

[@UpandDownRacing]

Great video more like this.

[@simoncheshire3820]

Where would Hymo set ups have fitted in? Looking at going to tracktitan who do iracing and ACC set ups and use Hymo set ups instead of vrs.

[@galaxian_hitchhiker]

TT is nice but nowhere near compared to VRS, had always stability issues and very passive community. Also garage 61 is nice and serves the best performance smooth experience on web however user interface needs an overhaul.

[@P3ktoRis]

Daniel and Will....how do you like your seat? is it comfy after 2-3h? does it get hot in it?

[@daniel_gray10]

I love it, no flex, comfy for long sessions, can get a little hot on the back though

[@P3ktoRis]

@@daniel_gray10 long session? i can be in my seat for 8h, thats why im asking whats a long sessions for you :) cushions are not changable so that they are velcroed ? or can you open them and extra pad them?

[@Aye_ScaR]

Where do you get your wallpaper from

[@VaethOjK]

So having a final conclusion, that made my call of "Best Setup Shop" If they are all decent, and good in different ways... VRS wins the spot, as I have access to almost every series and cars for 9.99 per month. Thats cheaper then some of other "top ranked" shops offer even a single setup. Absolutely killer cost/quality ratio.

[@panicrevray7498]

watching on release exciting

[@tapatsos]

You should make a video that includes HYMO so we know also for them !!

[@vvhelan8695]

I'd like to see this done on diferent tracks

[@LeadNarrator]

For the uninitiated… The setup that comes before setup 9… is 8. You’re welcome, internet.

[@xiii-Dex]

Interesting that you ranked Coach Dave at the top despite the stability concerns, then the very next one you were worried about instability if you have to alter your line in traffic. Not saying you're wrong, since it's obviously completely opinion, but my (3.7k) experience with Coach Dave's setups have been that they are just way too optimistic. They seem to be built on the assumption that you'll run a perfect race with great car control and minimal improvising, but the moment you have to do anything except hotlap they become a death trap for me. Side note: was the iRacing setup just literal baseline? One thing to note is that the baseline has a weirdly high nose in the Porsche. Even the medium downforce sprint setup at least has the nose down where everyone else would.

[@matthiasthurm207]

It’s not so easy to say only the name of the setup shop it’s the people who work for them and make this setup. Anyway I was always happy with Craig’s and sometimes tune them to my needs.

[@deleon3793]

Went and bought VRS mainly because of the comment section. Went on to set pole position in qualifying!

[@Fuzzidio]

Some of the expensive shops are actually worth it, i pay 20 AUD for a NASCAR setup for NIS Open from Ryco, but it will guarantee a top 5 finish in 3K+ splits. I've always liked VRS but i've felt they have always sacrificed laptime for safety too much, I find it funny how Craigs is the worst...I tried it once with my twitch sub and i never used it again

[@xiii-Dex]

Oval setups are definitely a whole different world than on road.

[@Tacoplane91]

Good video!

[@WaskiLP]

PDS so irrelevant nowadays that it doesn't even get included in such a video anymore!? 😅

[@mikelvn5410]

My league ht champions used Marconi it's great

[@nathancad]

I usually use VRS for my setups and found them to be good so far, only $14.50 a month. I thought Id check out P1 and give them a go. But my eyes popped out of my head when I seen the price was $32.50 a month

[@P1Doks]

20$ a month or 6$ a setup, if you used an apple product patreon charges a huge premium. I've since been able to resolve this so we take the loss so more people can access our sets.

[@nathancad]

@@P1Doks Is that USD or AUD? My figures are in AUD. $20 AUD isnt that bad. Or is it $20 for basic membership and $32.50 for exclusive? What do you get in both packs? Does the $20 membership give access to all setups or is it the 32.50? It doesn't really say much on the site. Cheers in advance.

[@AlxanderSpetz]

@@nathancad It's 20 for the whole membership / all setups

[@nathancad]

@@AlxanderSpetz Every time I click on the $20 membership. it takes me to payment and only gives me a $32.50 option.

[@AlxanderSpetz]

@@nathancad It should be 20 USD, I think 20 USD to AUD is around 32

[@tmurglaze704]

So who’s the best to buy from then

[@James_Armitage]

I BROUGHT iracing an hour ago

[@yoannr1764]

Knowing the combo, it was the worst track to take the porsche.

[@f1charged418]

Hymo was the one i was interested in getting but you didn’t rank it unfortunately

[@mikelvn5410]

I have apex and friend has coach Dave. Some tracks Dave is better and some apex is best and we both agree when it's the case lol

[@swider80tv]

Great video 👍 Mind me asking,why theres no Hymo setup?

[@daniel_gray10]

Since Will works with hymo we didn’t wanna open up any chance of people thinking we rigged the test etc. Will was screen recording the whole time though, but we just wanted to be sure!

[@swider80tv]

@@daniel_gray10 oh ok,thanks. I would love to see where it would be 🙂

[@mexsenna]

And pure driving?

[@JVGaming]

Would have liked seeing hymo setups nonetheless, those are so good.

[@thestig6979]

Can someone tell me ...what does deffy or defi mean?

[@Bumble-d1e]

Can you please fix your screens they are way to far and need to be closer if you have a longer shaft put the screen inbetween the shaft and steering wheel just like a real car anyways good luck on your sim journey and i hope this fix gives you faster times

[@daniel_gray10]

Hey man, factoring in screen angle the screens are exactly where they need to be to have correct FOV. They're also not very far away, only like 25cm from the wheel

[@Bumble-d1e]

@@daniel_gray10 okay great ! The only thing that bothers me is if you look left and right you see your own room which might take away from the sim then again im not sitting in your seat and it might be awesome how you see it thankyou for the response tho your content is great and when i will upgrade if god premits im going to be taking your advice on the seat

[@daniel_gray10]

@@Bumble-d1e all good man!! thanks for the kind words. I only see screens when sitting in the seat, but I think the camera angle is making it look further away!

[@Bumble-d1e]

@@daniel_gray10 wonderfull

[@tyxex97]

😮😮😮

[@assettocorsaking]

wtf does deffy mean? and ur fov is fooking ya with that car

[@DjCliff86]

Haven’t heard about this channel but small disclaimer. They remove comments being negative towards certain setup shops (P1 in my case). So they are obviously sponsored and this entire video is complete BS for those who actually thought they went in blind lol..

[@daniel_gray10]

I have removed literally 0 comments from this video, the people in the video were partnered with Apex, Hymo, GnG at the time of making the video. I'm not really sure what you're talking about

[@ogpeekhal]

Why do sim racers wear gloves?

[@daniel_gray10]

Protect the wheel and grip, I made a whole video on it 2 weeks ago, give it a watch haha!

[@galaxian_hitchhiker]

Because it is “too hot to handle”

[@MUTILATEDFILTH]

Didn't check out Majors Garage.

[@daniel_gray10]

Majors was Rudi’s first pick, we definitely tested it haha!

[@BelgianSimRacing]

most of the setups are just baseline setups with minor tweaks .. and asking GOLD prices for it when the eSport teams will NEVER share their own setups ;) NEVER!

[@1xRacer]

not at p1doks, we really are sharing sets we would use in top split for real

[@BelgianSimRacing]

@@1xRacer sure 😅

[@1xRacer]

@@BelgianSimRacing you can go watch their streams... I'm also the guy who wrote the contracts... so yes, the setups are used in top split officials

[@Blu3T3xone]

Why should they be baseline Setups? 😁 Building a setup is no big secret, there is no hidden setting that makes you faster 😁 if you aren't able to extract the Performance out of a setup it's useless and most good Setups aren't easy to drive so there will always be the Shops offering a pro setup and the ones that offer a safe setup for beginners und

[@matthiasthurm207]

It’s not so easy to say only the name of the setup shop it’s the people who work for them and make this setup. Anyway I was always happy with Craig’s and sometimes tune them to my needs.