Why F1 Games Went From Great To Terrible

[@alexnowis2468]

EA Screw EA, they have a track record of destroying game franchises.

[@ccramit]

FIFA dumped them. The money grubbing, don't care about fans in FIFA thought EA was bad. That tells you how bad EA is.

[@inphratic]

@@ccramitwrong, EA just didnt want to pay FIFA the money they were asking for for the license, so actually it was EA dumping Fifa 😂

[@hehe-IgoBRRRR]

Even in the fellow motorsports like NASCAR. The games were amazing in the early 2000's but fell off in 2006 to 2009. History just repeats itself

[@Stupider.]

F1 2002 and career challenge were the only good ea f1 games

[@dumpsterstu4474]

@@alexnowis2468 Elon should buy EA.

[@keen_2147]

5:45 shit was way louder than it needed to be

[@n4t333]

hope the comments flamed him hard enough to make him watch a video on audio normalizing

[@voinrima]

​@@n4t333Normalizing is not compressing, it does not change the dynamics

[@b.1570]

why then? thats what lobotomy feels like

[@alexnowis2468]

I can only hope EA loses the licence to F1

[@RedPDawg]

Well unfortunately when it comes to licence's for games money talks. The reported over $1 Billion every 4 year world cup cycle EA are saving by not paying fifa for licence will almost certainly make it a bit easier for them to just chuck more money for the licence, for a while at least.

[@CamTooling]

Monkey’s paw: iRacing gets the license

[@Z24_Official]

EA owns the licenses to a bunch if different sports, thats why they dont improve their games cuz they dont have any compitition. as soon as another company starts making games competeing with EA thats when we'll see improvements. when 2k made NFL games, they were better than EA, so EA had to try and make a better game. but now that 2k cant make NFL games anymore, EA has no reason to actually make good games because people keep giving them money for doing little to no work

[@deputyskog]

@@CamTooling given the fact they're now doing console games (they're the official nascar dev) this would be the absolute best move

[@DamarFadlan25]

​@@Z24_Officialmaybe wait until 2050 when EA finally surrendered the F1 licence.

[@batgaming9648]

Cuz there are a lot of people who still buy the newest F1 game instead of demanding an F1 title to be released every 3 years and to be updated regularly.

[@deputyskog]

this would be the move

[@GeometryEX-hp9zs]

In a sense, F1 2012-2024 can actually be merged into one game. Especially 2022-2024, there is almost no difference. I think either selling DLC ​​at a lower price or packaging them into one product will be much better than the current situation.

[@santicar10]

EA is giving F1 the same thing they gave to NASCAR: bad videogames that only get worse as time goes on, until the fans get tired and pray that they lose the exclusivity license

[@ShadowWolfe]

New Spa actually appeared in Automobilista 2, before both F1 24 _and_ iRacing! You'd think for at least EA's sake, being the "Official Game of Formula 1" that we would've had it in 23, buuuut nope. I do hope F1 open up the license so that it's no longer exclusive, because they're losing the market very quickly with EA's incompetence (and complacency). I have 2017, I think 2019, loved 2020, hated 22, loved 23, tried the beta of 24, and immediately lost interest. This yearly model for sports games can't hold up any longer, there's no way people are still willing to shell out $70 for something that could've just been an update to the previous game. The "MSFS Method" would be better, one game every however many years. In F1's case, one game every regulation cycle.

[@deputyskog]

thank you for pointing that out! might see if there's a way i can issue a correction in the video, at the very least i'll add this to the description with a thanks to you for letting me know

[@ShadowWolfe]

@@deputyskog Aw man, KZbin probably auto-removed my comment because of the hyperlink. But if you want a more precise time & date, as per an Overtake article on August 27, 2022, that's when Reiza added the 2022 iteration of Spa! So EA _did_ have time to add it for 2023 whether at launch or a post-release update, and they just... chose not to? Really weird business decision there.

[@CrusaderAce24]

I disagree on 2021, it was one of the best F1 games i played and maybe that's just nostalgia due to me putting in a lot of time during COVID

[@CrashXII]

Finally someone who also thinks that it is mainly Codemasters fault instead of EA that the games are becoming worse. What I can´t grasp is how F1 games from 20 Years ago have certain features that the current games don´t have.

[@deputyskog]

genuinely feel like im going insane whenever i bring this up but i genuinely think that so many of the problems were already starting to show before ea bought them, ea just happened to come in and make them look worse

[@CrashXII]

@@deputyskog It´s because many people think in the following steps when it comes to EA: Step 1: EA buys a (beloved) Studio Step 2: They take control of the Studio and their Games become worse because of it Step 3: EA closes the Studio While not wrong it also isn´t necessarily right which leads to a revisionistic or nostalgic look of the acquired Studios and their Games. Due to this many people forget or have never witnessed how Codemasters operated in the past. Be it having wrong Tracks and never updating them, making Games randomly worse from one iteration to the next or adding MTX. It could also be that due to EA´s bad reputation that these problems are more visible to the players than before Codemasters was bought by them

[@davidp.7620]

When I played career mode on F1 04 or 06 I kinda felt like the stakes were high. Fuck up and you're now the reserve driver! In F1 22 you can start your career mode by kicking Hamilton out of Mercedes lmao.

[@Lonzz_14]

Thanks for actually blaming codemasters too and not just blaming EA, ppl think that EA are the ones that make the glitches or the ideas for crap gamemodes lol.

[@VascoMata-d9b]

0:20 Latifi fastest lap 😎

[@deputyskog]

the goat 🐐

[@Ballen_F1]

5:46 Headphone Warning

[@leogagne2086]

5:45, rip my ears

[@NoHacksTSR]

Yeah wtf was that…

[@KleinerBruch]

Yes holy shit i didnt even understand what he was saying 😂

[@iceicebaby8469]

One thing that i've always found annoying is how they can never make the AI difficulty thingy balanced across all tracks. Even F1 2020, a game I still play because the handling is just so good, has this issue. Austria I could drive with 95% AI, but Bahrain I got absolutely destroyed in qualifying with the same 95% ai. And I actually felt faster in bahrain. There are even difficulty calculators that show for which tracks you should lower the AI and where to higher it. I might be stupid here but, how hard can it honestly be to make the AI balanced across the tracks? I really dislike having to fiddle with the difficulty percentage before every race. (And I don't mind being a bit slower on a certain track, that happens. But some tracks I'm like 5/6 tenths slower on the exact same difficulty but my leaderboard time is actually better!. And you really see where the AI gain time as well)

[@donnythedealer9761]

yh, the main problem is when youre consistently slower on the same track each time you race it, so each season of career mode feels the exact same, cos youre literally slow on the same tracks. Same tracks are easy, same tracks are hard. Theres no difference, and thus no challenge.

[@stepladder3257]

f1 2014 was blessed with an insane modding community

[@deputyskog]

the amount of stuff they've done with that game is insane, it's good for the people with low end pcs or who can't afford to sacrifice a kidney to ea each year

[@DamarFadlan25]

F1 2014 with 2024 roster mod is actually work fine.

[@kierokiero8115]

Started playing f119 career mode and started Haas, 13 race wins later and Lewis Hamilton leave Mercedes mid season to join Haas because I made Haas the top team lmao

[@FabInator6]

Personally i think that the main issue is because the game releases sooner and sooner. I remember F1 games releasing by the end of the season (take F1 2010, released in September for example). Now the game comes in April, when the season barely started, so the devs can't get any proper data on how the machines perform and on how they can make the physics work to have a good driving feel with the cars, which is the biggest issue with 24 from what i saw (and experienced).

[@deputyskog]

this is actually such a good point, i wish i'd thought to include it in the video lol

[@KingHippo11]

the quality of this is AMAZING - you earnt a sub

[@jestro1885]

Had me watch an F1 video without having played any of the games, pretty solid.

[@mcraig]

Finally someone pointing out that changing the engine won't improve things. It needs an overhaul yes but technically it's solid - the problem is that the handling has gotten confused, multiplayer and backend hasn't been overhauled in a decade, and there's nothing new the games actually offer worth checking out since I last played in anger with 2020.

[@demogun]

F1 in general lost a lot of fans in the past ~20 years. It became horrible and boring due to the new regulations and rules. There are a lot more interesting series and a lot more interesting games or even simulators out there.

[@deputyskog]

this i agree with. the boost in fans in the last few years was mainly due to drivers personalities, but if you want to watch racing you're better off watching wec at this point. it's been great so far this year

[@elsienova4269]

I feel the people that say this kind of stuff are f1 fans who only experience the sport through reddit posts. Last year didn't have a lot of amazing on track action but this year has been one of the best years of the sport in the last 20 years by far. Almost the entire grid is fighting for their own goals and the racing has been amazing to watch. The incoming 2026 regulations do seem bleak with the cars becoming entirely 50% electric, but there's a lot of push back from the drivers against it so things could change.

[@ElKafkaArtinamaKusumah]

i mean last year was boring but now? its amazing

[@BenjaminTaccagni]

Nascar has some great races atm tbh

[@sadikurrahman4833]

@@ElKafkaArtinamaKusumahthis year we’ve had more snoozefests than good races Just because we’ve had different winners don’t make the races itself good does it? z only good races this year was Canada silverstone Austria It’s harder for cars to overtake each other than ever before it’s gone to 2017 levels again

[@Helmi_44]

5:47 BROOO the jumscare had me😭💀

[@JosephPetrassi]

They've been terrible for years. Codemasters had the exact same outlook as EA do now

[@gglyoutube4593]

Play Roblox f1 it’s surprisingly good for a Roblox game

[@blackhorsegaming393]

We can't even blame it on ea. Codemaster kept fumbling major things in each game year after year. Ea was just the icining on the cake

[@Wild_stream064]

7:02 WTF, why does it say Peppa Pig Norwegian?

[@deputyskog]

don't ask questions you aren't prepared to hear the answers for

[@hangryharv9453]

This is a great video man. I honestly thought it was a great doco kinda movie and it was great to “take a look through the past…”

[@attilahorvath3055]

Great video! My first F1 game was F1 2019 and last year I upgraded to F1 23, and I'm happy I decided to get these games, not the others :D (2020 would be cool to have tho)

[@nandoboiii5215]

How do you do karting alongside your degree? Is it a hobby you just have or are you pursuing a motorsports career?

[@deputyskog]

@nandoboiii5215 it's a bit of both, i've done a lot of rental karting since after the pandemic but I'm studying automotive & motorsports engineering at university and i'm currently captain of a university karting team with the aim of competing in the new year

[@bullet_dude4166]

there is no passion, there is vision, there is no agression!

[@b.1570]

The fact they will never make a proper new GRID game makes me despise EA and Formula 1 even more

[@Z24_Official]

before watching, let me give my answer: EA

[@aureli3121]

Youre actually real for this one

[@davidp.7620]

I wonder what the expiration dates for licensing rights are... Like, if a studio tried making a game with 1950's cars, drivers and tracks, could they be in trouble for that?

[@Nixerman]

EA. The game has 20 tracks and 20 drivers. 1 car. And they still can't get anything right, it baffles me.

[@kiekiek]

New Spa was also there in Assetto Corsa as a mod.

[@tofu3317]

F1 can be a one time purchase game, since they're all the same anyways, they can just have yearly updates with older titles available as a game mode if you're into that and can have maybe DLCs here and there.

[@teenybopper777]

Same way EA has ruined golf games, football games, basketball games, etc etc etc. Obsessive focus on microtransactions and everything else treated as an afterthought

[@thevxctor3274]

really good video and great opinions u deserve way more subs

[@MasqGM]

11:20 EA been ruining my life from Fifa 09 to whatever the hell F1 24 is

[@sarminder4357]

The F1 06 made by Studio Liverpool for the PS2 was amazing compared to some of the latest games. I wish they'd get another chance to make a modern F1 game but FOM would probably not give them a go ahead.

[@GustavoCOD4]

I gave up playing F1 games after 23. Without a new engine, it seems that we are always playing F1 2019 with a different skin.

[@HotWheelsFan06]

F1 games don’t change enough from year to year, buy it once every set of new regulations. I bought f124 and won’t buy an f1 game until 2026. I know loads of people still having fun on f120

[@deathtrooper2048]

The switch to UE4 for WRC litterally ruined the game with stuttering and bad optimization,on console dirt rally 2 looks and runs better than wrc.

[@chaznan]

WOOOO YEAHHHHH DEPUTYSKOG UPLOADDDD RAHHHHHHHHH

[@ΓιώργοςΚαϊάφας]

algorithm finally doing its job

[@BKWilliamsJnr]

They got you buying couches and lamps in a f1 racing game. Did it to themselves!

[@clixzid3982]

This guy deserves 100K+ subscribers

[@Mr_Zoomy]

I dont see how they can comtinue to fuck up and still have people playing these games

[@MegatonicAudio]

It’s EA. Every time they get ahold of a property, they ruin it.

[@lucid-eclipze571]

ur funny ill follow you next week

[@ligmasack9038]

E.A is the first problem, Code Masters is the 2nd.

[@DesignTiyani]

EA is responsible for the downfall of F1 games. Microsoft should've bought Codemasters

[@Matt46375]

Agreed, multiplayer in those games really is.

[@donnythedealer9761]

The main problem with f1 24 is the DRS trains. The AI just literally always leave space which is sad cos they become so easy to bully off the line, so easy to overtake, and then youll instantly have ERS to the next driver cos nobody has dirty air and DRS activates in 1 lap instead of 2 so no gaps get big enough. P sure all AI use ERS at the same time too so theres no difference. Plus when drivers race each other they often get locked in an overtake battle the ENTIRE race which is so unrealistic. Plus you can't warm tyres for SHIT in the formation lap. Plus driving in the wet weather is total ass and i have to drop my AI by 10 at least. (I drive with assists on controller on 99 AI avg). Plus forcing a mistake against AI is pretty easy, 1 of them is bound to lockup per race. Theres more but this is already a long list.

[@Norinot1]

I did not watch the video yet, but the answer is simple, physics and car handling, its a racing game, all one has to do it get this right and its a good game, but it seems they can't do that. Also I very much so believe that if someone really has the I wish I could be an F1 driver excuse he will be into sim racing, and if the game sucks on a sim racing rig, then that game is bad. Edit: Those who play on a controller, will probably not give a fuck about this at all, car physics or handling, they will play it regardless of this, those players are the exact same as Fifa player, new game comes out they buy it and play it until the next comes out.

[@samuele64246]

Finally someone who just don't blame ea and actually articulate reasons. Ea might have their influence but the series had its bad before the acquisition (as u said f1 2019) but ehy "eA bAd iTs tHeiR faUlT"... It's sad many things got scrapped both for cost of licences and player base not care (untul too late like classic cars) or because of esports olayer not being happy like marbles and wet looks nerfed down (when in the older games u had more spray) or for licences agreement being mad about visual damage (man, i miss the 2021 beta damage) Agree on the ue part being shit for racing games (many seems to just not know)

[@od13166]

I glad Driver Career been reworked in 24 because i really like F1 2019 over 2020. 2019 you setting your goal by yourself and negotiate with teams basically you set the handicap by yourself. Since 2020 driver career become stale imo your only goal is meeting Teams goal and thats it.

[@pendremacherald6758]

F1 2011 on 3DS was truly the peak.

[@popinjayjunior7698]

Somehow the hardware requirements have jumped dramatically in the past 5 years, while having no noticeable visual fidelity improvements. F1 2019 was a really light game, just sipping power. F1 23 meanwhile is using all the power it can use just to play 60fps. Its very disappointing

[@Coe1eALT]

13:32 - The GÆM

[@Sigurd-r5]

Super Monaco GP (1&2) on the Megadrive was the last F1 game I really enjoyed. Oh, F1 Career Challenge on the GameCube was pretty good too. The only Codemasters F1 I enjoyed was F1 09 on the Wii. The sport itself is kind of boring, also you can't see the track ahead properly because you're too low in the cockpit. I'd really like to see Super Monaco GP updated on modern consoles. Also a modern graphicsl update of the original game.

[@ruddgrandprix-speedrunraci8515]

1:36 aka Angry Dyson Ball on jets.

[@Tsuinryu]

F1 1950>F12024 and f12022

[@famv7]

They got the feedback from KZbinrs & streamers, the occasional Netflix fanboys, etc. 😂😂😂

[@r0mm_el872]

If you took the create a team mode from F1 manager and shoved it in f124 + got rid of the battlepass mechanism with lackluster liveries. Then it would be worth 70$... maybe.

[@cayde-6502]

12:25 F1 2021 was the only F1 game I bought and I still play it on controller from time to time. But you just confirming that its not a skill issue on my part and that the AI is just insanely fast on some corners/tracks makes me feel alot better about my driving skills haha. I do play on controller and Im not the best, but tracks like Hungary, Zandvoort, Singapore are just downright impossible to race on for me without lowering the AI at least 10 ticks from my normal difficulty, otherwise the AI just casually pulls 1 second a lap on me

[@deputyskog]

yeah ! it always baffled me how they never bothered to fix that, it was almost unbearable in medium-downforce corners. every time a new season would start in career id end up removing those tracks bc you couldnt race them properly

[@22Chad_Reed22]

none of the games can be worse than 5:45

[@Transport4ThatDumpTruck]

The best one is f23 imo it's just fun. With F2020 being after just because of the classic cars but yeah thx god for ea play so that I don't have to buy for these reskins

[@vonnerseite]

€A thats why

[@theace7002]

NASCAR fans: First time?

[@mitchellman32]

Just clicked, haven't watched. EA. It's always EA. They focus on aggressive monetization and they are infamous for reselling the same sports games year over year with minor improvements.

[@cloudkuromori]

why dont ea make an f1 game thats just like turbo dismount instead

[@farhanshameel7810]

YES OMG SOMEONE WHO LOVES THE F1 2019 REVEAL TRAILER BRUH ITS SO SICK

[@timkuipers-t8e]

They need to fix the f2 to f1 ladder, I did a test Where I dnf’t in all races in f2 and redbull still wanted me. So for me this f2 function is worthless because your’e race results don’t even matter!

[@DamarFadlan25]

F1 22 and 24 bar none are the WORST F1 games ever made since EA took over Codemasters.

[@sitramaybe]

Ea doin the same shit they did to Nascar games

[@marcelf0252]

F1 2021 is where it really started to fall down for me, I never felt the same level of joy like I did previously, F1 22 I didn't play very much because of these stupid and useless additions they made after sacrificing awesome things for it and F1 23 I literally played 3 times before selling it again because it just sucked and I still can't believe how unrealisticly high pitched the engines sound

[@tubzvermeulen]

Thanks for the video

[@Ballen_F1]

F1 games described by memes F1 2010: Its Perfect F1 2011: I mean its alright F1 2012: THATS WHY ITS THE GOAT F1 2013: THATS WHY ITS THE GOAT F1 2014: Its the biggest piece of dogshit F1 2015: Its the biggest piece of dogshit F1 2016: WOOOO F1 2017: I mean its alright F1 2018: WOOOO F1 2019: THATS WHY ITS THE GOAT F1 2020: Overrated as fuck in my opinion F1 2021: Noice F1 22: Its the biggest piece of dogshit F1 23: Its the biggest piece of dogshit F1 24: Its the biggest piece of dogshit

[@Joao-eo1me]

How do you not have 100k yet bro

[@JEUndisputed]

This video is just a guy who's not even z real f1 fan ranting about the game franchise and you want to know why he hasn't got to 100k yet😂😂😂?! Bro 💀

[@deputyskog]

​@JEUndisputed oh my God ive been waiting for my first hate comment, im glad u called me on not being an f1 fan since ur such a good personal friend of mine, i guess my 14 years of watching it, it helping me get into racing directly and my motorsports engineering degree is irrelevant right? if you have a problem with me, don't watch the video and let people who enjoy it enjoy it

[@pmb902]

​@JEUndisputed let me guess u started watching f1 after dts came out

[@thjc]

@@JEUndisputedbiggest clown in existence

[@1xRacer]

Great video! subbed

[@Dominik27543]

Hopefully they do good with f1 25 but Im not getting my hopes up

[@eclipsegst9419]

Does anyone even wanna drive these crappy hybrids? I quit playing F1 games because F1 became crap. I still love ripping around every track released for Assetto in the true greatest F1 car of all time though (naturally i mean the F2004)

[@Sean120-zj1uq]

Amazing video and I agree with you

[@conors4430]

Good video, just a word of advice, slow down a bit, sometimes you were speaking so fast that it was hard to understand what you had just said

[@kuramathewolf]

my history of F1 games are wierd. F1 2000 F1 2002, F1 2007, F1 2008, F1 2009, F1 2014, F1 2017, F1 22, F1 23 and now F1 24 So i guess i can call myself as long time fan and player? Since its hard neat picking rly old F1s ill skip them out. out of F1 22 to F1 24 out of these 3 i would pick to play F1 24.... Handling i didnt felt like its wrong... i mean i didnt played it at release day so i guess i didnt had chance to drive that crap myself :D But i dont feel like its bad game. is it worth 70€? Feck no... it feels like F1 23 DLC with minor upgrades if we ignore career mode. Would be much better sold as DLC to F1 23 for 30€ and it would go much better. I still dont get that huge hate, i mean honestly everyone telling how its buggy mess. AI doesnt work, handling is crap etc etc. Ive had 0 of that issues even worse AI is racing 3x better then in F1 23 for me! DRS trains happen around 4th-7th position and even then it starts to make gaps if you drive more then 5 lap races (Honestly how can that be fun ) I would love to talk about it with someone who have its own experience but use something more then ,,its buggy expensive crap" argument

[@RoninSystems]

The answer to your title question: EA. EA is the sole reason why F1 games are straight squirrel dookie. When you wonder why any of your games suck, look for the warning label. It says "EA"

[@emka9537]

Didnt EA LOOSINg its license ?

[@fdoc09]

It’s simple, EA

[@AnekoF90]

EA

[@deputyskog]

in 3 years when they've inevitably made it worse im just going to redo this video and say ea and fill it with 30 minutes of blank space

[@ausardash]

It's easy, EA

[@dct124]

Dude money is tight, if you're trying to figure out why sales are low 😅 ppl not buying games right now

[@2dRacer]

Schumi era was boring 05 had decent races but was like the 022 season 06 it was worst than 05 07 decent year 08 same 09 boring ahh the fall of brawn GP was the only interesting thing 010 has boring races but with lots of different winners 011 pure and utter domination 012 greatest szn of all time 013 is 011 but worst 014/15 were mid at best 016 was an interesting year BC Rosberg handnt had a skill issue 017 was mid at best BC Vettel had a skill issue 018 019 same as 017 20 was interesting but also not 021 one of the greatest szn ever 022 was mid with some good races 023 ain't gonna say anything 024 it's decent with different winners but no direct champ fight So in conclusion F1 was mid all the time with some few good szn

[@nodafy]

Because EA.

[@giogamer4825]

Simple, due to being yearly releases...

[@firstnamesecondname8280]

wait what do you mean WRC runs poorly??? ive got a 2070 8gb and i can run high graphics at stable 60. also god i wish f12020 would still work for me. since i upgraded to a fanatec gtdd pro 8nm and heusinkveld sprint pedals, the game doesnt recognise them at all so i cant play the game lol

[@adrianprado7981]

If you want a sim get Le Mans Ultimate

[@keeganforde2012]

Easy EA need I say more…

[@prakhar1259]

I really am mad they removed claire. My virtual gf

[@deathtrooper2048]

5:34 So the handling is bad in previous f1 games because you were slow? IRL the F1 cars would handle differently in 2014 vs 2017.

[@deputyskog]

i'll break it down for you, the sentence preceeding that was a different sentence, meaning i was making two points! and yes, the regulations between 16 and 17 changed drastically, it's just that regardless of which cars were better to drive irl, the handling characteristics in 2014 to 2016 because of how much you had to jam on brake/throttle or crank steering to unrealistic degrees. you also can't come to my video and expect me to speak entirely objectively, i just enjoyed 2017 far more as a video game and had more fun with it coming back on a wheel, which i definitely didn't with 2014 or 2015, and 2016 was a bit better. of course im going to derive my points from a combination of what changed and how does that vary from game to game whether it's the irl cars or game changes, and what did i think of it? that might be different to you and that's okay but i expect u to be cool about it