We brought back the most OVERPOWERED role in Gmod TTT!

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The Yogscast

The Yogscast

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@enderhugo
@enderhugo 11 ай бұрын
The assassin's biggest weakness is when they have to fight someone who isn't their target they're at their strongest when people aren't paying attention and end up not fighting them, so, not to throw too much shade, but it's always going to be overpowered against the yogscast lmao
@ImminDragon
@ImminDragon 11 ай бұрын
Their biggest weakness is the inability to separate friend from target.
@jins4200
@jins4200 11 ай бұрын
@@ImminDragon Their biggest weakness is paying attention to what is happening XD
@EscoNitz
@EscoNitz 11 ай бұрын
eh, assassin deals double damage, so any sort of sniper weapon against their target is a 1 shot, so getting caught is gonna be the hardest part.
@Candlemancer
@Candlemancer 11 ай бұрын
@@EscoNitz One round Nilesy killed his target at close range in front of 2 people and it still took like 5 minutes to get called out. And he only died because he tried to kill his traitor buddy.
@shawnbryant2612
@shawnbryant2612 11 ай бұрын
Achievement Hunter had assassin too and it did double damage if you hit your target, but something like if you kill a non-target player you then deal half damage for the rest of the game. It's definitely not imbalanced. They just don't pay close enough attention
@jamescarroll384
@jamescarroll384 11 ай бұрын
Lewis: "But now its been nerfed so you can't just go on a one-man killing spree" Lewis: Instantly goes on killing spree
@lakersouthpaw
@lakersouthpaw 11 ай бұрын
Need 30s cooldown on that or something. Not 5.
@adannator1546
@adannator1546 11 ай бұрын
the yogscast guarantee!!!
@CoreyKaha
@CoreyKaha 11 ай бұрын
@@lakersouthpaw I agree that 5 seconds is too short, but also 30 seconds is too long. Assassin would likely only get 1, perhaps 2 kills with that long a cooldown. Better 10-15 seconds.
@kiracomments-chca2747
@kiracomments-chca2747 11 ай бұрын
@@CoreyKaha: That's exactly what I was thinking before I even saw this thread lmao
@HmongHeroo
@HmongHeroo 11 ай бұрын
That confusion of assassin not knowing traitor vs target would make it hilarious
@TheNotshauna
@TheNotshauna 11 ай бұрын
It's literally the one thing balancing the role.
@Become-Eggplant
@Become-Eggplant 11 ай бұрын
I think that happened before. Ben shot Ped and said that the T is for target or something. I still remember that episode because Lewis's mouse was broken.
@HmongHeroo
@HmongHeroo 11 ай бұрын
@Become-Eggplant yeah, I remember it being an issue before similar to the jester icon hidden in left shark ben
@georgehh2574
@georgehh2574 11 ай бұрын
​@@Become-Eggplant Haha I remember that episode so well. Lewis' mouse broke and he was yelling instructions away from his mic. Very memorable.
@owenchafer1083
@owenchafer1083 11 ай бұрын
Honestly, I kind of like the idea of a fellow traitor being the target. Makes them have to prioritize extra damage, or having their traitor buddy.
@sleep8527
@sleep8527 11 ай бұрын
Maybe the assassin could have a scanner (defib-style item) to "confirm" their targets kill before they get another target? So that they can't immediately jump ship to another target. It would force the assassin to potentially reveal themselves while they fiddle with the body - similarly to the risk/reward of a traitor defib or mad scientist play. Could even have a calling card function, like the body indicated as "ASSASINATED" to reveal that there's an assassin to the innocents if they find a body. Just my thoughts - the roles potential is there.
@Caipiranha89
@Caipiranha89 11 ай бұрын
I had a similar train of thought, but my idea was that the assassin is forced to use a special gun that one shots the target but does zero damage to anyone else. Also, the assassin has no idea who their target actually is and has to find out by taking pot shots at people. This would add additional confusion amongst the innocent, because someone who does no damage could now either be a pink role or an assassin.
@georgehh2574
@georgehh2574 11 ай бұрын
I think the defib idea might make them *too* vulnerable, but I like the idea about placing calling cards.
@falloversideways
@falloversideways 11 ай бұрын
My idea was a 30 second cooldown between targets
@falloversideways
@falloversideways 11 ай бұрын
It would be a cool idea if that gun is different each round.
@felifree4721
@felifree4721 11 ай бұрын
I also think the target should be notified that they are being hunted so they can hide or be more careful letting someone close to them or at the very least think twice about mindlessly wandering the middle of the map
@Hannah_Em
@Hannah_Em 11 ай бұрын
Oh my god, the fact that the Trucking Tuesday Gun truck's wheels float in from the sky is _such a good bit of attention to detail_ , that moment has always been my favourite TT moment, and possibly the hardest I've ever laughed at a youtube video!
@tiobridge841
@tiobridge841 11 ай бұрын
I love this group. Nowhere else could someone misidentify the traitor and jester, only to mistakenly kill the correct person reflexively
@KuroroSama42
@KuroroSama42 11 ай бұрын
"It's time to duel..." Duncan: 2 towns over in a sniper tower.
@jamesddiii1292
@jamesddiii1292 11 ай бұрын
9:05 "someone's firing an artillery gun at us!" *immediately walks directly at where the last explosion was and dies to the second artillery shot*
@Satherian
@Satherian 11 ай бұрын
When Lewis said that there was a time delay with the Assassin contract, I was expecting it to be like 30 seconds or a minute. 5 seconds is so short for 8 people!
@nazamroth8427
@nazamroth8427 11 ай бұрын
The assassin was always a traitor role. Also, the ability was the same except for the 5 second delay, of course it still OP.
@jacobcothran9961
@jacobcothran9961 11 ай бұрын
He may have confused it with the serial killer
@Candlemancer
@Candlemancer 11 ай бұрын
@@jacobcothran9961 that role that was in like 2 videos nearly a decade ago
@Nebanox
@Nebanox 11 ай бұрын
lol at 10:01 duncan you died because you jumped and then aimed and the ground to shoot the backwards shotgun, which shot backwards, and slammed you into the ground. Also one small tweak to the assassin to go along with other suggestions could be the detective can see that a player was assassinated. It'll help a bit since they can pick off people without them knowing even knowing there's an assassin so that could help people prepare for it and maybe stick together a bit more.
@swearimnotarobot3746
@swearimnotarobot3746 11 ай бұрын
9:30 Glad the editors went back and showed the thing they said they’d show. It’s always fun to see. Thanks editors.
@EggLordTobias
@EggLordTobias 11 ай бұрын
Here we see a wild space stig in their natural habitat. 7:42
@FreshlyBakedLePain
@FreshlyBakedLePain 11 ай бұрын
Seeing the Stig floating off into space at 7:40 was neat lol
@hyperon_ion9423
@hyperon_ion9423 11 ай бұрын
The quickest/simplest way I can think of fixing the Assassin would be to make them either take more damage or have less health. Force them to be more careful and less brazen. The debuff of not being able to attack non-targets just isn't enough, assassins are just able to get through their list of targets too fast for the Innocents to figure them out and take advantage of the debuff.
@evanmatthews2159
@evanmatthews2159 11 ай бұрын
Or reduce the bonus damage they deal.
@hisuii
@hisuii 11 ай бұрын
15:05 Ben died because he walked too close into the massive star in the middle of the map.
@lunarfrog2
@lunarfrog2 11 ай бұрын
Most overpowered role was old jester hands down
@zacharyweaver276
@zacharyweaver276 11 ай бұрын
Before traitors could see who they were and fire and explosives could kill them?
@RiftDragon1
@RiftDragon1 11 ай бұрын
Have to admit before they made the changes to fall damage and explosions yes they could just hurt themselves to 1hp and run into a firefight but all round the assassin was the most op role like disgustingly op especially if you waited for the shenanigans to start then just mop up the last 2 or 3 can't remember whether it was spiff or Tom but they wiped the entire round in a matter of seconds 🤣😂🤣
@marc96able
@marc96able 11 ай бұрын
​@@zacharyweaver276nah when they could kill themselves and win
@Baker3102
@Baker3102 11 ай бұрын
I'm shocked nobody has tried "writing in the death note" as jester/swapper yet
@pedrorodrigues4633
@pedrorodrigues4633 11 ай бұрын
The "effected" person wouldn't see a white outline so you'd know its a jester play quite fast.... Not accounting for the Yogscast guarantee of course lol
@OnlyNobodyAtHome
@OnlyNobodyAtHome 11 ай бұрын
@@pedrorodrigues4633 I think there is still scope for some shenanigans. They'd just have to do it when the targeted person is about to die anyway, so they can't confirm whether they saw a white outline or not.
@kevinreilly51
@kevinreilly51 11 ай бұрын
But can the death note be dropped? Then the jester would have the outline and want death so it would then work.
@PanSpaceman
@PanSpaceman 11 ай бұрын
I wonder if he No One Can Hide From My Sight randomat overrides it, that'd be the time to strike
@heyheyitsjae2475
@heyheyitsjae2475 11 ай бұрын
They could also use teleport and room shenanigans like the Traitors did here to hide somewhere the outline wouldn't show up anyway, then the Innocents wouldn't be sure Jester or just far away
@PanSpaceman
@PanSpaceman 11 ай бұрын
My thinking for leveling out the Assassin, (other than a slightly bigger gap in Next Target'ing, 7-10 seconds maybe,) is making it known to everyone who the next target is. Then you get a sort of Get Down Mr President type panic of "are they really staying so close to protect me? Or is it to kill me?" Plus of course the pink role plays in the confusion.
@spicychichentaco9961
@spicychichentaco9961 11 ай бұрын
Only problem with that is it would essentially clear anyone who is a target so people know they are innocent (or possibly a brown role to be fair)
@JohnJohnson-sc7hn
@JohnJohnson-sc7hn 11 ай бұрын
Maybe if it only tells the target and not the whole lobby
@Odyanii
@Odyanii 11 ай бұрын
Duncan’s right in that the Assassin not needing any toys is part of the problem. I think maybe the Assassin should get a shop of powerful weapons with big tradeoffs. Like one will kill almost instantly like it is now, but only at extremely close range. Maybe another that’s two shot but long range and with extremely slow fire rate. Maybe one is a fake free kill gun that won’t explode but people will of course potentially kill you. And all regular weapons do very little damage even against your target, so you have to risk exposing yourself to get kills.
@nessle420
@nessle420 11 ай бұрын
i mean these kinda sound like the old DB shotgun / tec9, and the base scout Rifle (two shot at any range, low firerate). if someone snipes you across the map with a regular rifle they generally call it out 'zylus is in a sniper tower!' so idk if making it a unique weapon would be much different though it would be a 100% confirmation of them being bad
@freneticriot
@freneticriot 11 ай бұрын
I like the idea of a stable rail gun that doesn't explode. Just make the charge really really loud so people can hear it from far away.
@naphackDT
@naphackDT 11 ай бұрын
just give him the maclunkey gun
@MrShukaku1991
@MrShukaku1991 11 ай бұрын
Pretty sure the problem is that double damage is insane. Most single fire and semi-auto guns now oneshot at any range and any body part, and most automatics do it in 2-3.
@AtomixKingg
@AtomixKingg 11 ай бұрын
I think the best solution to the assassin is for the target to know they are the target. It'd make them much more defensive about people coming near them, and may have other innocents defending them. It would also force the assassin to get much more creative with their methods.
@kura4674
@kura4674 11 ай бұрын
The car or truck guns should have a % chance to 'isekai' the person it kills, revive the target with some overpowered ability and the directive to solo the round.
@MsHumanOfTheDecade
@MsHumanOfTheDecade 11 ай бұрын
That's so funny, I love that idea. They could come back as that short-lived role whose job it was to hunt down whoever killed them.
@Retsila01
@Retsila01 11 ай бұрын
@@MsHumanOfTheDecade Your mission: Defeat the demon king.
@Hawk_of_Battle
@Hawk_of_Battle 11 ай бұрын
But what over-powered ability would they get to live their new isekai life? Access to forbidden weapons/powers? The ability to negate special weapon effects? The ability to steal items from others at a distance? Time manipulation? A monstrous avatar best friend powered by belief in oneself? There's so many options!
@nazamroth8427
@nazamroth8427 11 ай бұрын
@@Retsila01 Who is that? Rythian? Or Lewis?
@Dewi-H
@Dewi-H 11 ай бұрын
@@Hawk_of_Battle Steal!
@incarnationofmagicalenergies
@incarnationofmagicalenergies 11 ай бұрын
No one is talking about the Comedy of Lewis killing the Assassin Osie by mistaking her as Ben and taking home the win.
@dethmin173
@dethmin173 11 ай бұрын
After all these years, Ben was finally on the other side of "kill your own traitor buddy to look innocent" play and nobody noticed
@ryucloud4800
@ryucloud4800 11 ай бұрын
I've been JUICING on these new TTT videos.
@jollyjep
@jollyjep 11 ай бұрын
10:44 Wow, Osie, as the executionor assasin sounds about right
@tigrafale4610
@tigrafale4610 11 ай бұрын
Maybe have the assassin's target announced to everyone so they have to try to kill it while the guy runs away and is defended etc.
@ItsTripleAGaming
@ItsTripleAGaming 11 ай бұрын
Couple Ideas to Balance the Assassin: - 1.5x damage boost - 1.25x damage boost but still a 2x damage boost on headshots - replaces their buy menu with Gimmick like the Free Kill gun, Finger Gun, Banana Gun, Backwards Shotgun?, Silenced Pistol, Pocket Rifle, and only their purchased weapons do 2x damage
@nessle420
@nessle420 11 ай бұрын
like the idea of making the bad (gimmick) weapons suddenly powerful
@FluffyDragon
@FluffyDragon 11 ай бұрын
Other tactics include: Actually shooting the person you all watched assassinate someone right in front of you. A challenge impossible for the yogs. There's a reason they had to remove it for being OP before
@joeltaylor7741
@joeltaylor7741 11 ай бұрын
Duncan died by shooting the backwards shotgun while looking at the floor - which shoots the shotgun UPWARDS (because it's backwards), propelling him into the ground, right? Hence 'you fell to your death'
@heyheyitsjae2475
@heyheyitsjae2475 11 ай бұрын
17:05 love the shot of Ben's expression changing
@Zyrdalf
@Zyrdalf 11 ай бұрын
The assassin should work like the Drunk. Or clown. Where they get their target after 40 seconds or when they are the only traitor left. Then the murder spree begins.
@Zyrdalf
@Zyrdalf 11 ай бұрын
Or the drunk becomes an assassin
@wisecrack4545
@wisecrack4545 11 ай бұрын
I'd say change it from trying to chain kill players one at a time, to just going for a single target, but then combo it with the old informant role so they have to actually identify other players first to find out who their target is.
@Zyrdalf
@Zyrdalf 11 ай бұрын
@@wisecrack4545 ooh an assassin hired to kill but they don’t know who their target is until they scan them. And if they scan them enough they learn their weakness which grants the 2x damage, or perhaps gives them a traitor weapon that instakills them but makes it look like an accident. Agent 47 style.
@KuroroSama42
@KuroroSama42 11 ай бұрын
Yeah, so turns out a 5s timer on the assassin isn't nearly enough. Should be more like 20-30 seconds.
@georgehh2574
@georgehh2574 11 ай бұрын
Nah 15 seconds is enough
@raileyti
@raileyti 11 ай бұрын
Yeah also put tier hp to like 50
@PokeNewbie
@PokeNewbie 11 ай бұрын
Request a "Target eliminated!" sound effect whenever the Assassin eliminates their target 🤣
@FriendlyKat
@FriendlyKat 11 ай бұрын
Assassin definitely needs a big nerf! LOL 7:53 Duncan and Osie are a chaotic duo! That had as much potential as “Help! I’m stuck in a barnacle!” 9:39 Editing is incredibly funny and amazing! That player swap gun would make a great Jester play if one annoyed someone enough with it. That’s such a great gun! 17:51 Editing error. Osie’s name is missing in the top left. That ending proves that The High Ground always wins! Lol Great episode!
@Hatypus
@Hatypus 11 ай бұрын
10:04 Pretty sure Duncan essentially propelled himself into the ground.
@MasterBroNetwork
@MasterBroNetwork 11 ай бұрын
Yep, The shotgun just threw him into the ground with a lot of force.
@thegingie95
@thegingie95 11 ай бұрын
Most overpowered role was spiff and Tom
@PineappleZach666
@PineappleZach666 11 ай бұрын
Damn I miss spiff ttt
@scourage9122
@scourage9122 11 ай бұрын
And barry/Harry but all 3 haven't been in ttt for years 😢
@nathanieldenson2054
@nathanieldenson2054 11 ай бұрын
A suggestion to fix the assassin: Up the new target timer to 30 seconds, add that when they kill their target they get a credit and fill their shop with purchasable normal guns.
@nilsekluund
@nilsekluund 11 ай бұрын
Super mario galaxy!!! I loved this game as a kid
@Americanbadashh
@Americanbadashh 11 ай бұрын
We need a return of maps that have trains going around them
@kevinreilly51
@kevinreilly51 11 ай бұрын
DRILL MAP
@Americanbadashh
@Americanbadashh 11 ай бұрын
@@kevinreilly51 That's fun but they've played it a lot. I just want trains
@RuNaruX0175
@RuNaruX0175 11 ай бұрын
I like how Osie and some of the others NEED to click on the role when playing detective in order to tell what role they were despite the fact that it says what role they were in the top right and theres a symbol for the role
@SurrealNirvana
@SurrealNirvana 11 ай бұрын
7:41 who was that man floating in the void?
@joevahle2321
@joevahle2321 11 ай бұрын
You know, I never thought I'd want to see guns + yogscast in the comet observatory. But im so happy that I get to.
@benjaminniven4210
@benjaminniven4210 11 ай бұрын
That map is amazing, Mario Galaxy 1 was and still is my favorite game of all time
@megamonster333
@megamonster333 11 ай бұрын
If you space out the next target for assasins so they have to do a Rhythian and play the long game, picking people off rather than killing everyone back to back it would balance the role a lot more and make a more unique role in changing how you need to go about things
@irregularassassin6380
@irregularassassin6380 11 ай бұрын
It would be a fun idea to make an Assassination Contract item that only appears in the shops of non-assassins. So, your traitor buddy (or the Glitch) has to put a hit out on a target before you can get your bonus. Maybe before you can even do damage at all. The hijinks could be increased by adding it to the shops of Detectives (probably the Marshal), the Faker, and the Mercenary. Not only could the innocents potentially screw each-other over (providing great content), but if they correctly guess the other traitor, the Assassin would lose their extra damage forever, because it would only apply to their buddy.
@keeganlafferty1395
@keeganlafferty1395 11 ай бұрын
at that point just make it a neutral "Hitman" role who does little damage except to targets picked out using the Contract item you suggested
@irregularassassin6380
@irregularassassin6380 11 ай бұрын
@@keeganlafferty1395 That's a much better idea, definitely. I think that would be a great addition! They should probably have a shop with the sniper rifle, pocket rifle, and maybe the Winchester, so they can always get the job done.
@keeganlafferty1395
@keeganlafferty1395 11 ай бұрын
@@irregularassassin6380 and they win alongside either team if they successfully complete 3 contracts
@kelaestheicts6207
@kelaestheicts6207 11 ай бұрын
Okay, after having watched a few videos on the new server, I'd like to suggest a few balance changes for some roles: -The Announcer. This detective role feels almost more like a facilitator for Traitors and Fakers to frame people, rather then traitors getting caught out for buying items. I think something that could work is that while they get the same announcements, they get informed WHO bought at least ONE of the items after a minute passes to encourage them to sit on their information they have until they know who bought it...and it encourages traitors to gun for the Announcer fast before they get revealed. Obviously, with the Faker, Veteran, and other roles with shops, it's very possible the traitors might not get randomly picked by the new feature, so it's a risk/reward thing. - The Spy. Much like in TF2, not being able to talk to the people you're trying to trick severely limits how convincing and how long you can keep the disguise up for. As it stands, the spy has had a near universal lose rate since it's introduction. I'd like to propose a change that I think would make it more powerful: The spy spawns with a single-shot flare gun that burns bodies, and they can STORE disguises of people they've killed, allowing them to disguise as say, Ben, fire a shot, then run away and de-equip that disguise, easily framing people. An additional buff is that they're immune to location-revealing tools while in disguise, so they can more easily maintain their cover. And yes, this would let spies get away with using the Death Note, but the Death Note is rather weak as is with how easy it is to just rush traitors down, so I think it would be fine. - The Assassin. Much like it's former version, the double damage against a successive list is far too strong for a group that's as infamously distracted (sorry guys, I love you) as the yogs. I think a version that would be more balanced would be that The Assassin has ONE target they get double damage against...but ONLY if they're using a single-shot weapon that reloads upon kill. They miss the shot, they're stuck doing half-damage against everyone else, and they don't get a shop. They land the shot, they get another bullet and a new target, but the shot is very loud and distinctive, so they'll be "known" after the first kill. This way, all the innocents are encouraged to dive them...and the assassin's fellow traitor can take advantage of the chaos to get kills themselves or employ anti-movement tools to net the assassin more kills.
@skunkstripe5487
@skunkstripe5487 11 ай бұрын
The assassin role could be replayed by a role such as the whaler, where they will get a harpoon gun (cross between the railgun and harpoon) and a target to hunt. Charging the harpoon gun allows for the harpoon to travel faster and do more damage but will explode if over charged. The whale starts with one harpoon shot and will only get another after a successful elimination of a target with the harpoon gun, but if the whaler misses, kills someone that’s not there target, or if the harpoon gun explodes due to over charge, their role will be revealed to the whole lobby.
@duncanjala
@duncanjala 11 ай бұрын
Maybe a way to keep the spirit of the assassin while making them more balanced is give them one target and after killing them they are a traitor with extra credits.
@anonymouscommenter2425
@anonymouscommenter2425 11 ай бұрын
Assassins should probably be announced at the start of the round, make it a somewhat lower chance of being assigned than other roles and force the player into a “1”v all until they die
@sinh8583
@sinh8583 11 ай бұрын
Noticed a sharp noise at around 12:03
@bipen1176
@bipen1176 11 ай бұрын
Maybe the assassin can be a sort of catchup mechanic, where if your traitor buddy is the first to die the second person get to be assassin.
@OfficialJamion
@OfficialJamion 11 ай бұрын
Assassin should be a neutral role (minimal dmg buff) that can ONLY damage their target. That way people may assume they area jester. Also longer delay between target updates, and they have to kill X number of people then survive till the end of the round to get a joint win with whatever team.
@omegaRST
@omegaRST 11 ай бұрын
The two options I see for the assassin are either to make the new target cooldown longer (maybe it should be slow at the start and get faster) or make it like the summoner but gets all the good 1v1 items like freeze gun and car gun
@brasslion4176
@brasslion4176 11 ай бұрын
Maybe make it so that the assassin has a special weapon that 1-shots their target, and everything else they try to use deals 0 damage and/or can't deal any damage to anyone but their target
@jameshoff9985
@jameshoff9985 11 ай бұрын
Assassin should do no damage to non-targets so they can imitate the jester. Longer cooldown maybe too
@CyranoHadden
@CyranoHadden 11 ай бұрын
Maybe the assassin needs to kill someone with a specific weapon that changes after every kill, kinda like a Clue murder. Might make it a bit more challenging for the assassin
@MH-hu5pi
@MH-hu5pi 11 ай бұрын
That's an interesting idea.
@glitch-3107
@glitch-3107 Ай бұрын
Since the assassin is so OP maybe if one is present there's only one traitor, and maybe they get info-based buy-items to frame other innocents and sew discord? Maybe even merge the Assassin and the Spy but give a body bag item that makes it easier to hide bodies?
@monteb6276
@monteb6276 11 ай бұрын
I think a good nerf to the assassin could be that the target also gets a popup that they are getting hunted but it doesn't tell them by who
@HighSlayerRalton
@HighSlayerRalton 11 ай бұрын
Lewis confusing Ben and Osie's roles and then confusing Osie for Ben so that his mistakes negated each other is peak Lewis.
@premopreoni
@premopreoni 11 ай бұрын
Ravs dropping into full blown Scot when accosting Nilesy is perfect
@sgtpepper9001
@sgtpepper9001 10 ай бұрын
I think the Veteran needs the text that says they are the last innocent to stay on their screen the way the deputy does so that its clear for viewers.
@GrandToast
@GrandToast 11 ай бұрын
For the assassin, make their target invisible to just the assassin so they can't track them, but they still deal massive damage.
@bibby659
@bibby659 11 ай бұрын
If they had added the sponge with the assassin... then I could see it being more balanced. However as things stand, it is so broken you physically cannot ever lose. Even if they were on a more basic version of ttt, it would be absolutely busted. I have to wonder why they added it back knowing just how ridiculously OP it is. Especially since the assassin then doesn't even take double damage in return for the double damage. Least if you can do double damage, you should receive double damage in turn from all sources.
@Frogger601
@Frogger601 11 ай бұрын
Think a simple fix to balance Assassin is to change the damage buff to +25% to target, change the damage debuff to -50% damage to others, give the Assassin 60s to kill their target before it goes into cool down for 30s and changes target, and if they manage to kill their target have it select a new target in 10s. That way it they won't be able to 1 shot their target, but still do significant damage to them. It would also prevent them from chain killing with the longer kill cooldown, but also makes it so if they take too long they have to wait to kill the new target, slowing the game down a little bit. The target icon should also be changed to green with a green outline, this would allow the Assassin to go back to thinking green (innocents) is bad, and red (traitors) is good.
@likelyvampirical
@likelyvampirical 11 ай бұрын
17:30 The complete whiff here is hilarious.
@evil993
@evil993 11 ай бұрын
lol ben's "i think the tec 9 is still broken, I used like 3 mags." Meanwhile actually he was using an uzi.
@MrMattikism
@MrMattikism 11 ай бұрын
And he missed nearly every shot in those three mags lol
@Breloomancer
@Breloomancer 11 ай бұрын
maybe the target of the assassin could get some message on their screen that says something like "a hit has been put out on you" so that they know that they're the target of the assassin. might make it a bit more difficult for the assassin to just quietly kill the entire innocent team
@afallingmoose
@afallingmoose 11 ай бұрын
I think it’d be a good idea to get rid of the damage buff and replace it with maybe an outline of their next target and replenish the Assassin’s health and ammo if they kill their target. And maybe they instantly get a credit without having to go to the body for completing the kill. The damage buff breaks way too many guns. And don’t make them have a damage debuff to non-target. Maybe do something like, if you kill a non-target you get outed as the assassin and you lose your target and no longer can receive a target.
@afallingmoose
@afallingmoose 11 ай бұрын
Orrr. Make him have a similar situation as the informant where the longer he views the target it ticks up the damage buff. So it can still lead to one-shots but you have to patiently wait for the buff to tick up.
@thing4826
@thing4826 11 ай бұрын
I believe the assassin currently does double damage? The gun Lewis had if I remember correctly does 50 damage... To double the damage in a mode like TTT is actually quite insane. Should be 30% increase AT BEST since that is what the detective's armor gives. Should probably be less though. EDIT: yea at some point they said it's double damage... that needs a nerf!
@TooneeLunes
@TooneeLunes 11 ай бұрын
Honestly, make the assassin only able to do damage with a special assassin pistol (silenced pistol maybe) so its more about pretending to be a jester roll while stealthily taking out targets, make it feel more like hitman or something so its not just mow down everyone with a single bullet type deal.
@KingofWolvesii
@KingofWolvesii 11 ай бұрын
The person who is the target should have a notification to say that they are the target
@Dxm2000andNinju
@Dxm2000andNinju 11 ай бұрын
10:42 I very much chose the wrong time to take a bite of (very spicy) food. Both for the conversation and the scene that was playing out xD I genuinely don't know what I'd do if I walked into a bedroom, turned around and saw that coming at me. ^^;
@xRandomSarahx
@xRandomSarahx 11 ай бұрын
"Nilesy was wrong" 😂
@haydes1285
@haydes1285 11 ай бұрын
Yeah some rebalancing is needed, maybe nerf the damage boost and let the target know they’re being hunted
@didnt_ask_for_handle
@didnt_ask_for_handle 11 ай бұрын
Add some additional rule so it's not as easy. Like a reverse faker, have the extra damage only active on the target if both of you are out of sight of others
@wisecrack4545
@wisecrack4545 11 ай бұрын
Assassin role is back after a long time. First person to get it is Lewis. First target is Zylus. Result is exactly what you'd expect.
@iiTzSpectreZ
@iiTzSpectreZ 11 ай бұрын
OH MY GOD THIS MAP BRINGS BACK SO MANY MEMORIES OF SMG AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
@Blakobness
@Blakobness 11 ай бұрын
"So they can't just go on a super killing spree." *proceeds to go on a super killing spree*
@shalax7881
@shalax7881 11 ай бұрын
The assassin's target should 'Get a feeling somebody is out to get them'
@icefox500
@icefox500 11 ай бұрын
Duels are often best when the other person doesn't know who they're dueling.
@legaladvice1059
@legaladvice1059 11 ай бұрын
The Assassin should do regular damage to their first target and with every successful target kill their damage to their next target increases. That may encourage the use of items and an assassin just running around killing everyone.
@dancortese7960
@dancortese7960 11 ай бұрын
How to make assassin better for gameplay: Half damage with conventional weapons. Double damage with assassin themed weapons (silenced pistol, poison, ect.) Must kill target out of line of sight of others, or be outed. OR Cannot deal damage while being looked at (for false jester plays)
@Istira1
@Istira1 11 ай бұрын
No one mentioning the fact that Lewis was the last innocent alive as the veteran in the second round, giving him the extra attack, defence and health
@FindTheFun
@FindTheFun 11 ай бұрын
Honestly there should be a role that's the opposite of the assassin. Like all your weapons and toys do half damage but you always start with a pack-a-punch and a credit to buy stuff from the shop.
@RadicalLynx
@RadicalLynx 11 ай бұрын
There's a cooldown so the assassin can't go on a killing spree. Cooldown is 5 seconds and Lewis goes on a killing spree
@josephspelman1627
@josephspelman1627 11 ай бұрын
I think this pack should have another single killer role like when they had the serial killer, and then the clown, and the veteran with the assasin.
@TheBluerayxx
@TheBluerayxx 11 ай бұрын
Increase assaignment time to maybe 10-15? Also remove damage buff to target but keep damage rebuff for non targets. Maybe try to add if they kill a non target they get some penalty too.
@quinnlee-newbury9003
@quinnlee-newbury9003 11 ай бұрын
Idea for assassin balancing: The assassin has to use a specific weapon to kill their target (maybe a sniper or a knife, something a little harder to use) otherwise the target takes no damage and is alerted to who the assassin is? Assassin can still do that normal reduced damage to anyone else. Having that specific weapon out also casts suspicion on the person, assassin or not.
@Envyre_
@Envyre_ 11 ай бұрын
I think the assassin needs a longer cooldown after killing a target to really make is so they can't go on a killing spree. They should kill, hide, kill.
@fattybacon
@fattybacon 11 ай бұрын
They should make the assassin just be a regular traitor who gets an insane amount of credits scaling per target death.
@beeooowexists5374
@beeooowexists5374 11 ай бұрын
Perhaps a fix for the assassin being so OP would be the following: Making the assassin ONLY able to use traitor items and dealing ZERO damage/effects to anyone who isn't their target. Basically, a Faker but on the Traitor team
@LordOfTheWailord
@LordOfTheWailord 11 ай бұрын
Maybe the assassin's target can be alerted they are being hunted so the other innocents know to help them
@gamerz1172
@gamerz1172 11 ай бұрын
Honestly I love how they really didnt change ANYTHING about the assassin.... it not being a traitor would probably be the best nerf to it
@RuNoMai
@RuNoMai 11 ай бұрын
Idea for balancing the Assassin: They have to spend a credit to get their next target, and/or the current target KNOWS they're the target and can play a bit safer (but don't know who the assassin is).
@YuBeace
@YuBeace 11 ай бұрын
It's ok Ben... being Ben means being loved. ❤‍🩹
@saharajbeach
@saharajbeach 11 ай бұрын
Maybe the Assassin could only be able to use scoped weapons or it announces when someone is assassinated
@Sunny-td5hg
@Sunny-td5hg 11 ай бұрын
I think assassin should get buffed from killing a specific target instead of double damage towards them.
@fidoruh
@fidoruh 11 ай бұрын
I think if you get ride of the assassins ability to see their targets outline it might even it out.
@RhubarbKetchup
@RhubarbKetchup 11 ай бұрын
Maybe the assassin's victim could get a popup warning that they're a target?
@vergule11
@vergule11 11 ай бұрын
you should announce whenever an assassin kills their target
@noahgelbart5697
@noahgelbart5697 11 ай бұрын
If the assassin brought his targets from a assassin store and had to wait for credits like other roles
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