"We can't let Jokic win a FOURTH MVP"

[@OriginalFatCat]

Jokic this season so far : 3rd in scoring, 30 points a game. 1st in rebounds, 14.0 a game, 2nd in assists, 11.5 a game, 1st in 3 point percentage. This is historic.

[@NoahLinden]

And doing it with a washed second scoring option. If Murray played like he did last year, Jokic would be averaging 14 assists per game.

[@Lunkjohnson]

But the team is barely in the top 10. I believe that would be called stat padding. No player from not a top 5 team should ever win an mvp.

[@officerricky3230]

@@Lunkjohnson what it should and what it is are two different things. He and Westbrook both have won it before without being top 3. So.. try again

[@Lunkjohnson]

@officerricky3230 did you take the small bus I said top 5 and only Westbrook won, but then they figured out he was padding his stats so he never won again. Kind of like what jokic is doing now.

[@SkleeboJones]

@@Lunkjohnsonjokic proved he isn’t stat padding by winning a title. Stfu with this dumb ass logic when niggas proved his play had led to wins

[@teledanhogan4237]

Jokić sat out the fourth quarter needing one assist for a triple double because the Nuggets were winning by more than 20 points. saying he’s a stat padder is just absurd…

[@carter5377]

This exactly. If you want to see a stat padder, go watch Lebron play in the 4th quarter while his team is down double digits.

[@Mo-ei7ig]

@@carter5377so watch Lebron try and get his team back in the game👍🏽

[@carter5377]

@@Mo-ei7ig watch him snag rebounds over his own teammates and try to score as much as he can in garbage time.

[@emilfrederiksen.1622]

His stats are the only reason the Nuggets are somewhat decent lol he carries that entire team.

[@playoffp2024]

His teammate on the other hand…

[@Nahaintnoway]

Let me say this: Nobody has done more with less than Jokic has these past few years. Hasn’t ever had a teammate make an all star team playing with him and still dominated on his way to a ring and 3 MVPs.

[@Intr0vertical]

Well yeah, having worse help boosts your stats

[@Ether_Liner_Ado_Edem]

Only reason Murray isnt in allstar talks is because majority of his good performances come from the playoffs. Bro is an obvious allstar caliber player

[@jjjaydog719]

@@Ether_Liner_Ado_Edem he's also usually hurt or in some sort of slump or working his way out of a slump these past couple of years.

[@luizansounds]

Only person i can think of recently is Hakeem, he had the least help from everyone recently, Nikola is right there in worst supporting cast to win a chip alongside Dirk

[@xoHaj]

lol i’m lebrons biggest fan, and CURRYS BIGGEST HATER. But cmon man 2022 curry beating the celtics… the celtics was favorites to😂when jokic won denver was favorites

[@Jon-xc3ns]

the funniest thing is that Jokic don't even care about this lmao

[@samthenightowl5951]

lmao all jokic cares about is winning the championship, and even then he doesn't express all that much emotion when he does win, as we've seen

[@Marc-n5e]

He just wants to go back to Sombor and violate his horse Dreamcatcher.

[@samthenightowl5951]

@Marc-n5e very weird thing to say, my guy

[@berrymckockiner5883]

​@@samthenightowl5951facts, he displayed more emotions hitting a game winner

[@ocigledna.kreativna.opozicija]

“Sometimes I Wish I Had Never Met You, Because Then I Could Go To Sleep At Night Not Knowing There Was Someone Like You Out There.” Lambeau (Stellan Skarsgård) Quotes From Good Will Hunting 😂

[@that1guyj139]

The Jokic hate is so ridiculous. This man is having an historic year and theres still some sort of disrespect go his way. He shouldve had 4 already but yall literally begged for Embiid and how hilarious does that look now?

[@crazyralph6386]

Is it any surprise? Just look what Caitlin went through her first season? She and Jokic should compare the welts they’ve had received without a foul called? 😂

[@that1guyj139]

@crazyralph6386 right lol, the nba media is the biggest factor for that.

[@coughcough3323]

nergals

[@Airmcnai1r]

Who is y’all? Nobody voted for that free throw merchant, Embiid lost 2 years in a row then started to cry and beg his way to the MVP award. Along with ESPN and Perkins trying to push the racism allegations in favor for Embiid.

[@TheReesejr]

Basketball is a mostly a black sport, can’t be mad jokic not getting a 4th when KD don’t I’m sorry

[@JollyJoshums]

They mocked the old heads for hating the current style of basketball, and now are mad at the players that thrive in this style of basketball.

[@grahamjl766]

What's crazy is Joker plays back to the basket in the post "old style" a lot, but they still hate.

[@KTLR-333]

That's who doing this shit mostly it's older fans who don't believe Jokic is all time 💀🤦🏾‍♂️

[@legendarywiimaster]

And he would be even better in the oldheads’ favorite era: the 90s

[@michaelpaullang4401]

@@grahamjl766exactly that’s when I gave up realized you can make since of non-sense and everybody are hypocrites and cant see things from an objective view just a subjective view where if you don’t do it how they envision it your trash, the rules help you and all other other stupid excuses they make

[@babywizardkelly166]

You don’t know what u want until you get it 😂😂😂😂

[@JustinRamsey76]

Jokic should already have 4. Should be contention for his 5th straight.

[@elizajane91]

How? He shouldn't have even won 3... Why would Jokic have won that award when his team fared worse than others and other players seeded higher with less established teams were playing both ends? You all just have a weird affinity for the man, but he's missing an entire 1/2 of his game.

[@DaveOh]

@@elizajane91 he should have Embiids fraud mvp

[@chilldoc9638]

@@chrisuncleahmad789Embiid can spotted

[@chilldoc9638]

@@elizajane91because jokic did more with less? And that defense argument is so old in 2024, his offense makes his defense irrelevant

[@stefanbomert6523]

​@@chrisuncleahmad789😂

[@handsomematt-ik4vg]

This is why I started rooting for Jokic ever since he won his first MVP.

[@gorcsauce696]

Only year he should've won Was 2021 2023 and right now for sure him or Ad for now. But 2022 embied 2024 Luka

[@448DamonXX]

To combat xenophobic people? 💀

[@Lunkjohnson]

​@@gorcsauce696luka should of never won. He's a cone on defense And now jokics team is barely a top 10. Nobody from a barely top 10 should ever win an mvp. His stats are inflated cause his team sucks. So he can pad his stats now.

[@gorcsauce696]

@ nigha ur Comparing defense with Luka jokic they don't win mvp for defending they don't do that 🤣🤣. Bro the nuggets last year and better team starting 5 💀 also Luka got a whole new roster and went crazy my g later half season 🤣🤣. Jokic is center with 0 Rim protection stfu with that argument 🤣. Luka got 50+ win team with whole new roster chemsitty all in one setting and he proved his worth for going far in post season as well 🤣. Luka average 34 9 9 as point guard... U wanna know why Minnesota won lol against nuggfets jokic can't score on real nba height players and ant kat just targeted jokic in the rim all game 😂 arrgon gordna mpj can't always save him 💀. On one has ever argued jokic winning mvp cuz he played defense what a fucking joke 😂

[@footballhighlightsepl7042]

@@Lunkjohnsonlol jokic a good defender

[@NoahLinden]

He dropped 33/17/10 as soon as he returned from his leave of absence, despite not getting the foul calls he deserved, and despite his team's scoring option shooting 4/16. He certainly should be favored to win the MVP at this point.

[@alexisrobledoperez1376]

I believe Jokic and Giannis should be the two front runners, Giannis bout to have the two ONLY season with 30 ppg with 60% from the field and Jokic wanna drop a 30 point triple double and 50% from three 😭

[@ZZZ-pu4yw]

And allowed the mavs to score over 60 paint points and lost

[@NoahLinden]

@@alexisrobledoperez1376 Certainly. Giannis is almost on Jokic's level. He's an all-time great, and he's being overlooked in favor of Tatum, which is funny. Apparently, riding the coattails of a superteam makes you better than Giannis.

[@NoahLinden]

@@ZZZ-pu4yw Jokic isn't the one who was tasked with guarding the rim. Admittedly, it's not his forte, so he usually just guards the space between the perimeter and the rim, and he's quite good at that. Usually, Aaron Gordon is tasked with guarding the rim, but he's sidelined with an injury right now. Also, Jokic's on/off defense numbers have been #1 or #2 in the league for years, so his defensive impact is undeniable.

[@ZZZ-pu4yw]

@@NoahLinden buddy is playing wit 3 starters at all times malone does this on purpose to bost his numbers or you explain to me why murray always plays with 4 bench players because if you look at the on off in the playoffs since 2020to 2023 they are better by 0.7 when he is on the floor

[@StancedHellcat]

Jokic is literally S tier skill wise in damn near every aspect of his game but people keep refusing to give him credit cuz “he’s boring” or he doesn’t have enough “aura”

[@ScottyGem321]

if he was black/lightskin with a taper fade or dreads, this man would be the most liked player itl. Its jus bc hes a chubby average looking european that people say ts

[@TheDuelingBeard]

Bro jokic has more aura than any other player in the league. Nothing exudes aura more than being a man’s man, not giving an ef and providing for his family.

[@denisl2760]

the "I'm not even taking this that seriously, its just a job" is one hell of an aura

[@jordanhn6230]

@@denisl2760 I'm saying, we're watching him put up 29/18/16 and he looks bored. I fully believe that if Adam Silver replaced the Larry O'Brian with a silver Arabian racehorse we would watch in terror as Jokic breaks every record in the sport.

[@Johnzen03]

Translation - he’s white.

[@MindfulAttraction2.0]

notice how they only complain when a white dude (don't matter the country) win an mvp. Nash, bird (for getting 3 in a row), dirk, and jokic. Those are the only mvps that the players CONSISTENTLY complain about in the open. What a coincidence

[@KidA712]

What a shocker that the We Wuz Kangs people hate another great ball player cause of his skin color. Yet they continually race bait, play the victim card , and are clearly xenophobic. GIANNIS AND Jokic are the best players in the world. Much better and much more dominate then any player from the states. On god!

[@tgs5725]

Tbh a portion of the black community is very racist against white people and they view basketball as a "black sport". So they don't want to see white people soar to greatness in that sport. I think its a feeling of "you whites have so much. Let us have basketball".

[@John-yp2ho]

tbf its natural cuz its a predominately black league but it is bias n everybody sees it

[@manz7860]

Nah Steve nash is wack. Coming from a white guy.

[@KIDKorRupt24]

​@@John-yp2hothat's like saying America is a predominantly white country. So it makes sense that the whites complain about the other races. That makes no sense. Racism is just racism.

[@darkstarmedia]

It gets annoying and typical to even say it but, "imagine if the races were reversed" dot, dot, dot.

[@mamadoubarrie6607]

for me Idc bout race I just want someone else to win it cuz it is pretty exhausting but their is reason why he the best

[@tonytagliatelle9225]

I want whoever deserves it to win it, idc about fatigue. Its Jokic, Giannis at the top uncontested right now. ​@mamadoubarrie6607

[@malikwilson7387]

@darkstarmedia imagine playing the race card for a foul merchant like Jokic he stole the mvp last year from Shai and Jokic got exposed by Naz Reid .Jokic os the worst winner since steve nash

[@howitzdone8992]

Stole frm SGA 😂 STFU

[@nicholasalexander9866]

Honestly, as a Black dude, I think it’s necessary. It’s literally racism and being xenophobic. We should call out if the races were switched, due to some wouldn’t have a problem with it if this was LeBron or Ant for example. Jokic is already an all time great, however, having four MVPS would make his already insane career even better. If he deserves the reward he should get it. It shouldn’t matter because this is a whole new season with an almost different roster. His right hand is very inconsistent and him doing this with the other players should have him as the front runner. I’m fairly confident he most if not all of the MVPs have gone to the right person, you could argue Steve Nash’s second one, and maybe the James Harden vs Russel Westbrook one, but other than that, I feel like it went to the right person. If they end up giving it to someone else due to “voter fatigue”, a new rule needs to be introduced, saying that should be allowed. Give the MVP to the player that deserves it. Also, so many other people shouldn’t even have a vote, Kendrick, Stephen A for example. Tim Legler should have one (if he doesn’t) and I wouldn’t mind some NBA KZbinrs getting a vote because a lot of them know the game better than the media.

[@chosen_mizzy]

It’s principle for me to not give racists or ignorant people the time of day. If Gilbert Arenas or any other former player wants to stand on this belief of “I played professionally and you didn’t, so my take is superior”, while attempting to tear down or spew hate towards a player for no reason other than their background and heritage, then I just tune them out and keep it moving.

[@pssct]

swaggy p is salty for racial reasons not gil

[@ericjohnson9136]

@@pssct Gil don’t like Europeans gangy 😂

[@Marc-n5e]

​@@pssctgil is racist and xenophobic af

[@callmehavoc736]

Gil is actually surprisingly on the side of Jokic in this video. Swaggy is being racist and xenophobic about the conversation

[@degande-d1w]

There's literally a logical fallacy called appeal to authority that states someone being an expert doesn't make them right. However, their expertise can be used to provide insight and nuance to things that a layperson might not be able to provide. The difference there is that they are relying on the actual contents of the argument to persuade you, not simply saying, "I'm and expert so I'm right".

[@Linesweeper]

Jokic winning 4 mvps in 5 years would be pretty big for Jokic legacy, but it would be a VERY good depiction of the incompetency of the nuggets. You got the undisputed best player for that long and you can't win more than one?

[@benoh3417]

Idk if I'd call it incompetentence. What else could they do to win more?

[@ZZZ-pu4yw]

he is not undisputed first of all and second he cant guard a parked car and thats why he only has 1 ring

[@gorcsauce696]

4 mvp maybe and 1 darvin ham gift ring 😭🤣

[@Linesweeper]

@@ZZZ-pu4yw except he's at worse a decent defender. Any other claim is just a way to say you don't watch basketball.

[@ZZZ-pu4yw]

@@Linesweeper he allows 70 percent shooting at the rim thats 2nd worst of any big after kat nuggets are 29 in paint defense lmao

[@willemdaho3]

Jamal Murray has really made me appreciate Jokic even more (especially this season) The supposed “2nd star” is too inconsistent to be relied upon and the bench unit still has no backup big. meanwhile jokic drops 30/12/14 like its nothing😒

[@KAye633]

Murray is not good at all

[@alexandriaaaable]

Wow man, that was good. As a writer, I really appreciate it when someone uses regular language, combined with passion and pointed facts, to make a strong argument. Kudos brother. That was excellent.

[@LeAndre_McCoy]

Bro said Tatum should win because he's averaging 30. So is Jokic...

[@lestonclark2398]

with a triple dub.. lol

[@megalul1070]

But guys tatum is black and american…. Thats why he should win

[@someoldheadtakes]

Jokic is having a 92 Jordan 2013 Bron 2001 Shaq 03 Duncan 67 wilt 62 Russell 72 Kareem type of season, he’s in that goat tier and it needs to be recognized.

[@itshurtt395]

Throw 016 curry in there

[@riltalk4055]

@@itshurtt39505’-06’ Kobe

[@zbt62]

@@itshurtt39519 Kawhi :) 21 harden

[@someoldheadtakes]

@@riltalk4055 no he isn’t on that level

[@someoldheadtakes]

@@itshurtt395 not on that level

[@manueldros]

I've been watching every game of the Nuggets ever since the 2018 season and I've watched the unbelievable stretch of Lebron's dominance from the very beginning; honestly I've never seen a player who is more unselfish and dominant as Jokic. His shot making round the basket, his court vision, the much improved 3 point shooting all these things we all see, are second to none, but the things we overlook in my opinion what makes him so dominant, is his constant screening and involvement even without having the basketball. Another thing that gets overlooked is his defensive awareness. He reads defenses very well, but his rim protection is the only weakness in his game, but that doesn't make someone necessarily a bad defender. Also he never talks down to his teammates and shows great trust even when guys are playing poorly or making critical mistakes. He does sometimes complain a bit too much about refereeing (which I think is logical seeing how physical they allow defenders to be against him, but hey I'm a bit biased perhaps) but that has improved tremendously this season. I never post anything on a media platform normally, just wanted to give my 2 cents in an honest conversation on his greatness.

[@JovanSerbia]

Bravo

[@Sammyk94950]

Russ and harden killed themselves to get those triple doubles on teams where they had the GREEN LIGHT to do whatever they wanted. Jokic game is so effortless and he doesn’t try harder than the other two, that is out there is greatness when you take something so difficult and make it look so easy to the point where people get upset at you for it.

[@captainobvious90]

I would argue he works just as hard as those guys, its just that the stats come from him not chasing them, rather he works within the system and just does what comes natural to him.

[@wannabelikegzus]

If Jokic keeps this up for another 4-6 years, he's my GOAT.

[@Flyhr]

rings dont matter to you?

[@Oly1y]

​@@Flyhrrings are a team accomplishment. Is being the goat a team accomplishment?

[@Flyhr]

@@Oly1y The problem is when you get rid of the ring conversations, how are you gonna deal with Wilt Chamberlain in a stat convo

[@Oly1y]

@Flyhr because it's still more than stats? Because context and nuance is still a thing? Because we're not literal 12 year olds who can't think?

[@Flyhr]

@@Oly1y What's the argument then? What's the context? Wilt had the context of facing the most one-sided dynasty of his era that won 11 rings in 13 years. Is that Wilt's fault? What about team achievement? INDIVIDUALLY there is no argument based on output, the guy who was averaging 40ppg-25rebs-14blks

[@tonytagliatelle9225]

Jokics two other star players Murray and Russ couldn't score on a dumpster and he's still managing over 10 assists 😂

[@howitzdone8992]

Russ a star? In 2024😂

[@SavvyMon4]

Westbrook hasn’t been a star since 2020

[@MentLeee]

@@SavvyMon42017 but he’s still a Goat tho

[@SavvyMon4]

@@MentLeee I wasn’t gonna be that cruel but yeah I’d probably agree

[@metalhead2536]

Russ has been seriously outperforming Jamal dollar per dollar too

[@strifefresh3998]

Mfs mad that joker is exposing the NBA bs defense

[@i2Craftyy]

💯

[@michaelpaullang4401]

Defense???

[@strifefresh3998]

@@michaelpaullang4401 yes

[@michaelpaullang4401]

@@strifefresh3998 how so ?

[@professordantehs]

​@@michaelpaullang4401how is that so hard to understand chunky, boy

[@Brickwilliams]

He’s shooting 60% from three what the actual fuck

[@markuyehara7880]

I thought I misread that stat too, bruh.

[@lestonclark2398]

that stat dont hold much weight unless u know the volume he shoot threes at because u can use that stat to say hes a better shooter than curry now which isnt true because of volume.. i mean if a guy is shooting 2 open 3s a night and hits 1 everytime hes already shooting 50% from 3... but hes still an insane player btw...

[@Brickwilliams]

@ he’s shooting 4 a game, pretty insane

[@lestonclark2398]

@@Brickwilliams ohhh thats kinda insane lol hes undoubtably the best rn thats for sure..

[@someguy2972]

@@lestonclark2398 Funny that the NBA had to do away with the 3 point fg % stat (way harder to find than it used to be) once they realized their most marketable 3 point shooter wasn't in the top 15 in 3 point shooting %...

[@percheuropean7175]

The best part is Jokic doesn't even care if he wins another MVP

[@darthsiddious7469]

Bruh who cares what the No Rings/No Awards podcast has to say? Gils only award is Most Improved Player, which goes do dudes whos team didn't believe in them the year before or were injured and now ball out.

[@Melly_Wayy]

Nick got ring

[@KAye633]

All yall care about is rings lmao

[@noahjones3769]

If y'all don't want Jokic to win another MVP, one simple solution: Stop Him. Same way Curry and KD stopped Bron from winning more during their glory days. Your only hope is Giannis, Shai, and Luka because Embiid is a bum.

[@BrightNights645]

You listed 2 extreme floppers and a run and dunk guy. Jokic is running home with the MVP

[@professordantehs]

I don't want him to win because he's fat. Not because he's white, I don't care

[@KAye633]

@@BrightNights645Anthony Davis is pretty good

[@chilldoc9638]

@@KAye633no

[@IqbalEvolusi]

@@KAye633 nah he soft,he should trash lebum

[@TheLeftie600]

LBJ was robbed of MVPs, MJ was robbed of MVPs, Shaq was robbed of MVPs etc. Hey, Jokic could get another MVP...NO!!! WE CAN'T LET HIM GET IT, IT'S UNFAIR!!! These Jokic haters are pathetic.

[@someguy2972]

Drug cheat LeBron James was the only one doing any robbing, and still to this day...

[@pssct]

since his last mvp season nobody is GIVING him a mvp he just taking it himself while givers trying to resist it

[@lestonclark2398]

trust me they wanna find a reason to not give him it but its way to glaring to deny him...

[@tjayk9127]

He’s not even trying to win the award, he’s just playing. He’s said multiple times he doesn’t care about MVP and his reaction when he wins it proves that’s likely true. He’s just playing, if he was chasing awards the stats would be even crazier he’d just lose some efficiency.

[@traviswalters2345]

Bro not going to lie you’re my favorite KZbinr to watch videos about NBA you are hitting points from every angle and calling people out on their bull**** and this is only my second video I’ve ever seen of yours. Keep doing what you’re doing I’m going to continue to watch moving forward. Mad respect to you!

[@drakevick1646]

Shit, I think he’s gonna do it. The problem with Jokic is that his style of basketball will automatically generate him crazy stats, so he’s gonna pretty much be in the mvp convo in every season he plays. The issue comes from how you argue against him, because it turns into pettiness, instead of actually analyzing the value his numbers bring (ie. 10 assist from Jokic are worth more than 10 assist from Westbrook, the same way that a Curry 3 is worth more than a Harden 3; it’s about how they do it, that sort of thing.)

[@tgs5725]

I dont watch basketball so I dont understand what you're saying. Why is a 3 from Steph Curry worth more than a 3 from James Harden? The only time I've seen basketball is the finals every year. So at most 7 games a year.

[@Desolara-x4m]

@@tgs5725 because steph curry makes 3's at a higher percentage meaning, less 3's have to be taken to get the same result. So he means that westbrook has to attempt more passes (therefore worse quality) passes to get as many assists as jokic.

[@stpbasss3773]

No stats are automatic the hell you talking about? He earns all that and his play style doesn't mean automatic shit. If that was the case all the bigs would copy his style since it's automatic crazy stats as you say 😂.

[@someguy2972]

What garbage, 3 points is 3 points, there's no fucking style points...

[@someguy2972]

@@Desolara-x4m And others don't shoot their teams into a loss when he shoots 3/14...

[@Lord_D3mi]

2:03 acting like Russ's triple double mvp yr he wasnt impactful is crazy. Their 2nd best player was Victor olidipo and they would have been a bottom of the conference team. Also his PER numbers were insane that yr

[@MrDuckman0852]

They wasn’t lol He got the mvp for a reason lol

[@chilldoc9638]

He had defensive help

[@Javarious]

Jokić vs Gianni’s at this point for MVP (MAYBE AD) but yeah

[@rogelioatempa1115]

Jokic vs Giannis vs AD could be one for the ages. If Jokic keeps this up I don't really think he loses as long as he gets a high seed. I think his numbers will come down a bit which could open up the door for AD and Giannis.

[@z_kd]

I had Giannis winning it last year up until the Bucks started selling

[@slavisajesic7912]

AD is great but he's not even close to their greatness tbh

[@RunHotsauce]

Ngl Jokic literally needs this MVP and deserves it without an doubt😭💀bro is averaging a 30 pt triple double and is shooting 56% from 3💀

[@williamfeliciano3859]

Kareem, Mike, Bill, Wilt & Bron. That’s it That’s the amount of people that have won 4 or more

[@Matt-vg6kr]

@@JakeKoenig he was probably referring to MVPs

[@xenoonex6028]

​@@JakeKoenigwow, you're stupid. There's no way you watched a video talking about the MVP, then went to a comment section under said video about MVPs, saw someone comment under that video about the MVP, and thought to yourself, "he's definitely talking about rings"

[@demanitobias949]

@@JakeKoenig You're as bright as Nick Young bro

[@showtimej2582]

@@JakeKoenigsmh you don’t comprehend well bro lol

[@goldmo2427]

Bill didn’t deserve a single one imo most overrated player from that era

[@SuperSikarlo]

As a Luka fan, give that MVP to Jokic

[@logomarkz]

At this point noone is giving him, he is just taking it by force lol

[@blake1267]

@@logomarkzI love when a man takes it by force

[@XeroTheLegend]

I'm surprised no one mentions how healthy he is for his size. At this point in a 5s career they have at least 1-2 month long injuries. He's incredibly durable.

[@intergalacticweatherman]

Jokic's play style is very energy efficient, do as much as possible with minimum athleticism type shii

[@EddieWoodsRemnantOutreach]

3:45 thats a fact and for the past 6 years or so, the two players that consistently been playing at an MVP level every year are Jokic and Giannis. And they are the two best players in the league. Neither one of them gonna win a chip this year because they have to do to much right now which means they teams are not good enough to win. But the fact that they both putting up video game numbers dang near every night this season and have been doing this for the past 5 or 6 years is crazy (yeah Jokic started putting up his video game numbers later but he is by far the most constant besides Giannis in the league FOR YEARS)

[@OneZxxscsc]

Yeah bro he’s just that good.

[@kiranfyi]

I've sworn off the usual NBA talking heads for this season and couldn't be happier. Just wanted to say I really enjoy your channel man. Keep going.

[@TJssWay]

What’s funny is…Jokic should already have won 3 in a row. They gave that to Embiid smh.

[@MDsCalisthenics]

They're trying to protect legacies... It's an image based league. Giving 3x mvps to Jokic consecutively tarnishes a lot of the former great's images...

[@afolabiajigbolamu8457]

The only reason jokic doesnt have 4 is because stupid kendrick perkins brought up racism

[@Water03122]

Giannis should be in the MVP convo tbh

[@EddieWoodsRemnantOutreach]

The fact that Gilbert is admitting "It aint no giving no MVP" and that he's just this much better than these boys...

[@dummydoe-g9m]

I love watching your unbiased review bro. keep it up bro 🇵🇭🇵🇭

[@lebronsmissedclutchshot]

When your debating on Jokic getting an MVP, don’t discredit what Russ has done. That is mad disrespect man.

[@MrShuggadaddy]

It’s hard not to compare the two cuz they prolly gonna be the last two players to average a triple double and they play together

[@MOCskoden]

They are hating on Jokic because they aren’t personal with him, they don’t hang out with him… because Giannis Jokic came out of nowhere, Luka still came out of seas, the NBA wasn’t ready for this type of era…

[@EthanSchaner]

There are so many haters in these NBA/WNBA circles and it makes me so sad. It is just wild to me how people can't see how fun the stars of today are to watch. Instead of propping these players up and appreciating what they can do, everyone is instead obsessed with tearing them down because they don't meet this preconceived ideal of what they should be, who they should be, or how the game should be played. It's basketball, it is a kid's game, have fun and enjoy the game. edit: spelling

[@wisejustice7742]

1st time watcher. Had to subscribe after this amount of logic spoken. Makes me appreciate life more knowing others like this exist.

[@vladimircurkoski1455]

I don't care about MVP i just want to see Serbia beating team USA in the next Olimpic games in LA

[@mufljuz563]

bice,daće Bog

[@vladimircurkoski1455]

@mufljuz563 daj Bože ne tražimo mnogo

[@someguy2972]

Funny they had Adam Silver sitting right next to the IOC chief at the last olympic gold medal game...

[@matthewmayle0711]

Just found the Channel... Glad your unbiased... Earned a sub. Godbless...

[@pabblo101]

Jokic is also playing in the most loaded Western Conference in some time too!

[@TheEastside661]

You broke it down flawlessly bro, keep up the great debating and analysis.

[@ItzKhalilTv]

Brown rn is arguably as good as Tatum or better. On top or 3 other all star level players as their 3-4-5. “Holiday’Kristaps’white. No one in the league could average jokic numbers on that efficiency. Nor could carry a team like that with no other all stars. Jokic won’t get that respect but he is literally already top 12 ever. YES HES OVER KD. He can be your best passer scorer and rebounder all at an all time great level. His defense is average. No part of his game has a negative. Just like a prime lebron. This is an American born sport. But we gotta start putting respect on these foreign players names. AAU circuit destroyed our advantage we had. Players overseas work on skill. Notice most the Europeans may not be as athletic but rely on their skill. We are outskilled at the game now. That’s where it needs to start. Jokic been the best in the league the last 5-6 years.

[@thebluepineapplephoenix101]

brown is not in any way shape or form arguably as good as tatum this is a tired narrative lol. Brown is phenomenal don't get me wrong, but stop it

[@abel6846]

Basketball is a Canadian born sport.

[@davidstuart8203]

never change my guy never change. your content is funny and real at the same time

[@Addi.B.B.]

One thing I hate about the "I'm a former player, so I know better" archetype in media is becoming too funny. There's only a few of these archetypes that aren't arrogant as shit

[@InsaneAI_UA]

Preach my man. Sometimes the truth is not convenient yet we need to pursue it at all costs otherwise we are doomed.

[@wagezombie]

russ getting front row seats to jokic breaking his record is poetic aha

[@laksirigunasekera6878]

You are one of the realest dudes who break this shit down bruh. Mush respect to you!

[@yusufabdullahi9107]

The realist voice in the basketball community on KZbin, this brother is a breath of fresh air, just straight facts and no bias. respect

[@codelinx]

Damn your videos are good…. Subscribed!!!

[@315giants]

jamal murray has been AWFULL this year

[@justinland1208]

He's was bad last year too. At this point, the guy just sucks 4 out of every 5 nights. Then pulls some crazy game and everyone forgets how bad he is most of the time.

[@nikolalegend4868]

As a Jokic fan I can finally understand how he feels now tbh idc if he wins the mvp or not it be to easy at this point

[@IknowMoreThanYou]

The jokic MVP stuff is trash because for the last 5 years you pretended defense doesn't matter and Giannis doesn't exist. Particularly egregious was 23 where the media and ppl like you pretended the BUCKS had the best record in the East only and not in THE ENTIRE LEAGUE while Giannis missed key teammates the entire season. They acted like embiid and Jokic were the only ones in the race and gifted an MVP to a TERRIBLE example of a ball player who didn't even have the best record in his conference.

[@2010ChairmanMao]

Shit comment

[@evandupree6085]

You have to play 65 games to win MVP. Giannis only played 63 in the 22-23 season. The fact that Jokic and Embiid played more games was the factor. Tell the whole story next time.

[@allenmk138]

​@@evandupree6085He's talking about the year Embiid won MVP. Celtics were the best team in the east last season. Embiid would have won MVP last season without that rule, not Giannis or Jokic.

[@evandupree6085]

@@allenmk138 yeah, the year Embiid won mvp Giannis only played 63 games. Embiid didn’t win last year because he didn’t play 65 games. Jokic wins mvps because he plays 65 games every single year.

[@allenmk138]

@@evandupree6085 That 65 game rule started last season, which is why it was such a big topic last year. Giannis could have won that year with less than 65 games played.

[@ronalddhlamini2686]

love your videos bro!!

[@markuyehara7880]

This is the one youtuber who yells reason, logic and sense rather than just fake outrage. Smartest basketball channel anywhere. Smoothly edited, too.

[@Buff-Wings]

I mean he’s the definition of an MVP. Any team would be happy to have him. Denver would be close to a lottery team without him. Dude deserves the accolades for sure. If Denver wins another championship, he could be a top 10 all time player.

[@blake1267]

Is it safe to put him over Kobe and Curry all time ?

[@ericjohnson9136]

Nick Young is a joke tho 😂 he’s a yap artist so idk why people take his opinions too serious. He sounds like the kid that spams “no” at opposing arguments.

[@markuyehara7880]

Nick Young confirms with his mouth that he's really as stupid as his game suggested he was.

[@eric5280]

Joker is as good a player as anybody I've ever seen. He's already in the GOAT conversation for me as far as career peak.

[@noeljohnson1069]

Jokic getting 4 MVP and 1 championships doesn’t add up 🤔

[@Djoga100]

Jokic not having an all-star teammate for his whole career doesn't add up 🤔

[@allenmk138]

​@@Djoga100Warriors destroyed Jokic without Jamal Murray, so he clearly has a star teammate. You don't win a championship without great teammates.

[@Ejgotitfr]

⁠​⁠​⁠@@allenmk138no player on Jokic’s team has ever made an all star team, it’s fact not opinion. Also there were other players not there such as Michael Porter JR, Caldwell pope, Bruce Brown. Murray is not an all star caliber player. He’s a 20 and 6 guy that can get very hot. Jokic starting lineup vs GSW was Gordon, Will Barton, Monte Morris and Jeff green😂. He had 3 10-20 minute rotation guys playing 30-40 minutes. If jokic had real help and real star teammates he’d have a lot more than 1 ring.

[@Ejgotitfr]

Doesn’t add up because the nuggets front office is a joke. Name 1 mvp he doesn’t deserve clown.

[@chilldoc9638]

@@allenmk138you see how he’s playing this season? He’s the 5th best player on the nuggets And Jokic destroyed the warriors, he just didn’t have help…

[@paulhiniker2489]

Exactly it doesn’t matter what color he is. If he was African-American or Asian , I would still say he deserved the MVP because he just does.

[@schrecksuke]

bro your argument makes no sense, "when oscar did it we gave him the mvp when russ did it they gave him mvp so if jokic does it they have to give him mvp" if that was the case russ would be a 4 time mvp

[@Flyhr]

he meant when they did it THE FIRST TIME, also Russ's first time was by far his best time PER wise so it makes sense he won it

[@xenoonex6028]

Man, you failed high school, huh? Do you know what context is? Did you listen to the WHOLE point being made?

[@tom97009]

No cause Russ didn’t win after that and it was clear as day he was stat padding.

[@schrecksuke]

​@@tom97009 stat padding arguments in 2024 is so crazy, either every single nba player statpads or none of them do, you cant just pick and chose to suit your argument. I remember when Giannis intentionally shot the ball of the backboard of his teams OWN basket just so he could get a rebound for a triple double, not to mention shit like Wilt averaging 50 points a game one season, you think his team needed that to win? or when Jordan averaged 37 and his team went sub .500 and he got bounced in the first round? Maybe if he passed the ball more instead of hogging it his team woulda won more games. Even yall supposed goats are statpadders

[@st.toussaint4632]

You trying so hard to win this debate you put an illogical take.

[@tanrirem4243]

this should be 5th mvp conversation imo lol

[@iPoeticProphet]

4 MVPs & 1 ring? Dude is the offensive version of Rudy Gobert with 4 DPOYs.....

[@samuraiteensy8004]

Rudy doesn’t have a ring

[@chrisphenix9811]

That's the problem with yall

[@mathewalvarez8087]

Yapping

[@itiiiswhatitiiis]

7:18 is me whenever someone trash talks Jokic

[@worldzworstgamer6539]

Gianni’s defense is ridiculous this year his numbers are almost as nuts as Jokic while his defense is way better way fucking better and will never get praise

[@Animated_Ross]

Because he's losing RN he has to bring it back while keeping those numbers up

[@howitzdone8992]

I don’t think Giannis defense is as good as you think

[@stopkillingmemes7259]

Giannis has been getting visibly worse at defense year over year.

[@shepardice3775]

I'm not sure who you're watching because Giannis' defense has definitely not been "ridiculous" by his standards. This is probably his weakest defensive year since he became a superstar.

[@KClouisville]

@@shepardice3775 Giannis has been great as of late...and he's really carried that team to some recent wins...but his stans always underrate Jokic's defense (and he is a bad rim protector) and overrate Giannis'. His defense the past couple of years has been a step below his peak defensive years. As for MVP, his team is going to have to get to winning record first....even Jokic isn't going to win it if the Nuggets took a turn under .500.

[@kavid8120]

I hope Jokic keeps winning more and more MVPs so it forces bigs to learn how to play their position how it’s supposed to and try to get better like him.

[@Aplegendary3]

Everyone stat pads, but yes let’s make Russ the pioneer for narrative purposes

[@ericjohnson9136]

You’re being incredibly obtuse 😂 that’s like looking at a 400 lb man and saying “everyone overeats but let’s make him the pioneer for it” 🤦🏾‍♂️

[@Flyhr]

Russ is the most egregious example that's why. Theres a reason why Russ holds the #1 highest Usage rate season in NBA history, #1 and #5. Not to mention he is not nearly efficient enough to be having the game go through him like that

[@teledanhogan4237]

Jokic sat out the fourth quarter needing one assist for triple double because his team was up by 20…pay attention…

[@Oly1y]

Let's say everyone stat pads to pioneer the narrative that russ shouldn't be criticised

[@pavlestolica8180]

Yes, media can ingore him as long as it like, but brother... Jokic is inevitable

[@pickaxe5482]

Giannis>>>>. Giannis always gets overlooked

[@soraandthegang1066]

I love Giannis but right now Jokic is as good in points while averaging more assist rebounds and affecting his team more

[@vontebenford8103]

What’s funny is jokic spends his offseason with horses, but puts it on ur best team during the nba season is crazy work

[@worldzworstgamer6539]

Jokic first mvp should of been Gianni’s the only reason they didn’t give it to giannis is because they didn’t want him to win 3 in a row Gianni’s would of won 3 and Jokic should of had 2 but also embiid year was robbed from Jokic so it should be 3 and 3

[@dariuswilliams3206]

I thought they gave it to him because he was the only one hit 70 games, while everyone else barely hit 60.

[@howitzdone8992]

Should’ve been Steph

[@chilldoc9638]

@@howitzdone89928th seed

[@RomnysGonzalez]

"He can't jump over a curb" x999999999999999999999999999999999999999 - Stephen A Smith

[@rickruss23]

the fact jokic dont even care about basketball is what makes this wild

[@Intr0vertical]

He obviously cares

[@Ether_Liner_Ado_Edem]

I wouldnt say he does care moreso that he doesnt let it fully dictate his life

[@bubblefluke]

if anthony edwards has a hobby of acting and goes back to atlanta every fucking week to fuck hoes, he growing his image and is a georgia boy if scottie barnes has a hobby of streaming and goes back to the us every other week, he growing his image and is a true american patriot if stephen curry has a hobby of golfing, hes just competitive and addicted to winning but god forbid if jokic has a competitive hobby of racing horses and prefers to be in his HOME COUNTRY better than COLORADO

[@justhechamp1]

If he didn’t care I doubt he would have gotten so animated at that ref last night js

[@Oly1y]

The fact this stupid take is still a thing is wild

[@phillipschuman4307]

But Oscar didn't win the MVP when he had his triple double season. That was the same season Wilt averaged 50.4 ppg. Neither one of them got the MVP. that season. It went to Bill Russell.

[@redhood9292]

The only reason you’re saying Jokic is going to be top 15 or 10 is because he’s potentially going to have 4 or 5 mvps. The reason people have a problem with Jokic winning 3 or more MVPs, is because number 1 his narrative changes every year so that he is in the best position to win MVP while he still has only 1 Championship. Also if he ends up being the 6th seed this year he will be the only Player in history to win 2 mvps as the 6th seed or lower. The MVP is losing its Value.

[@howitzdone8992]

Low doesn’t even care abt accolades when ranking players 😂

[@redhood9292]

@ He was speaking as if it was going to be fact or popular opinion not just his own.

[@bubblefluke]

what does his championship count has to do with his MVPs? you just talking narratives rn

[@ericjohnson9136]

Brodie.. MVP is a regular season award and a chip is a chip.. what you talking about 😂 stop trying to dramatize the game and just enjoy a great player being great 🤦🏾‍♂️ it’s not supposed to be this deep. It’s ball

[@HouseOfTheHybrid]

I agree with what you said about the narrative changing every year. It does for him especially. He would have won it the Embiid year too but at the literal last couple weeks of the season, voters changed their minds. So for about 4 years straight everything was framed for him to win the award. It should have been either SGA or Luka last year.

[@theprocessss]

I’m a Sixers fan but omg. Joker is so good at basketball. He deserves every MVP he’s gonna get

[@durag_tg]

If Westbrook averages a triple double and barely winning it’s stat patting but if it’s jokic it’s cause he’s the best?? come on now Low stop with the double standards 😂

[@leroyflex1258]

Don’t forget they’re 29th in paint defense and he is the worse defensive center to win an mvp. Bro loves one side of the ball he only makes these videos for joker and Luka. Him acknowledging that they robbed other players of mvp because they got “voters fatigued”

[@gringoboy701]

Jokic does it on .565 from the field and .585 from 3. Just going to casually ignore that as if Russ has ever been efficient in his career.

[@unc54]

Russ fanboys are elite at ignoring efficiency stats

[@Ejgotitfr]

Jokic does this on elite efficiency. Russ in his MVP year did it on mediocre efficiency. People don’t call Russ a statpadder just to hate😂. If you’ve watched him, you recognised all the laughable stuff he does to get his stats up.

[@seamusgreenmurphy]

The point about measuring how good a player is based on how close they relatively were to MVP per year is a fantastic point

[@Intr0vertical]

I just want Tatum to win an mvp bro. And also hate jokic fans

[@jonLowryTrade]

Tatum is a Robin

[@Intr0vertical]

@jonLowryTrade 2024 and people still unironically believe this lmao

[@abtocool6350]

@@Intr0verticalI’m not even that big of Tatum fan but I’m tired of this take. Brown barely sees double teams, is flawed as a playmaker and passer, with a improved handle that is still weak, and he’s been shooting like shit this season and know one says anything but if it was Tatum shooting like shit it would be brought up quicker than the flash showing up at your doorstep. Brown wasn’t great in the finals either.

[@mathewalvarez8087]

Not gonna happen cry more

[@Intr0vertical]

@@mathewalvarez8087 he's the championship fav lol who cares better hardware

[@116Tree]

After all AD injuries he finally showing up I hope my dawg can get him one

[@dopeman4ever]

Its weird ppl blame lebron for his team not playing well with him off court but Joker gets praised for it

[@markovuckovic4291]

What a lie... LeExcuse never run out for him...

[@melodyisdead503]

Really?… if you listen to LeBron haters, they usually try to argue that the team is worse with him. (Old lakers LeBron)

[@HoodedAlchemy]

I will never forget Nick Young saying he hated the Warriors cause they passed the ball

[@memoelrey13]

This man Jokic should be going on his FIFTH STRAIGHT MVP!!!

[@GospodinPongracic]

RESPECT BROTHER NICE VIDEO

[@darindthomas]

The fact that Jokic leads the league in 3pt% is absolutely crazy.

[@Dramatron262]

Stop a 6'3 pg from rebounding ...stat padding wtf

[@DarriusBeal]

If the game was more physical like it was in the 90s 2000s it would make things different for a lot of these players cuz they can’t get the same numbers they usually get

[@markuyehara7880]

Jokic's game translates effortlessly to the 90s: Dominant post game, strong rebounding and more than enough physical toughness to trade shots with the Oakleys, Davises and Masons of the era.

[@bojanknezevic5254]

Ty man, awesome video ...

[@Trohl-]

I hope russ helps joker get his own season 3dub avg

[@ELGUAPOIV]

Why does the camera keep randomly zooming in and out?