Thank you for explaining Ledgestone here. I've wondered about this for a while. (I'm not really a Discraft guy except for a few Zones 😂)
@DavidClaibourn9 ай бұрын
I love the scortch. Similar hand feel to heat but it has crazy glide for an 11 spd
@tulsathundercat9 ай бұрын
💯! I've got the ledgestone mechagodzilla Ti scorch and it amazing. Thrown flat its the perfect glidey flex shot. 👌
@MasterBigBass11 ай бұрын
I wish they offered TI FLX zones on a stock run. So grippy and really durable in the two zones I have with it.
@evanstanek583810 ай бұрын
Yes, my TI FLX Zone is fantastic, durable, grip, and less dumpy
@defjodor15 ай бұрын
Also the z flex get freaky is nice, it is more stable and nice grippy
@TherokA11 ай бұрын
I love this channel. Showing some love from SW Ohio!!!
@MarcusAZ202211 ай бұрын
Awesome comparisons! Definitely wished you had a Get Freaky Cryztal Flx zone in with the others.
@NJT101311 ай бұрын
Good video. Im a long time Discraft fan. Id love to see you compare Lone Star since theyre newer I know nothing about them. Gateway would be cool as well just because they get slept on so much.
@kurukururin23 күн бұрын
the thing with discrafts molds vs plastics is that you have to know what each plastic does to every single specific mold. for example in the old zflx ringer-gt the zflx made it a TON more overstable than any other plastic. same with the old zflx machete. it was TILT overstable before the tilt was even out :D but if you take the old zflx heat, thats the most understable plastic for that mold :D so you basically have to test all the plastics for all the molds to know how they fly hehe :D its kind of annoying, but also interesting in a nerdy way.
@4dwyn11 ай бұрын
Nice work! I'd like to see a Dynamic Discs plastics. I don't buy from them because there are sooooo many plastics
@10GritSandpaper11 ай бұрын
Agreed. I'd like to see trilogy plastic tested. Specifically, I'd like to see pure tested. It comes in so many different plastics, and in some plastics, it seems like it has a little more stability in some low speed fade but in others I get a reliable flip up and a right finish.
@salommy11 ай бұрын
It starts with the big three plastic variations and branches off from there with some exceptions. Fusion (Orbit, X, Bio) Lucid (Orbit, X, Ice, Fluid) Classic (Blend, Super Soft, Soft, Medium, Hard) Misc: Hybrid, Prime
@4dwyn11 ай бұрын
@@salommy So Fusion is Star, Lucid is Champ, and Classic is Base? Still to this day, that's how I categorize the main plastics. I only throw "Star" and putt with "Base". For someone who has only 3 buckets, it's confusing as heck to try and buy DD. And to be fair, Discraft and MVP/Axiom does it too
@NJT101311 ай бұрын
@10GritSandpaper I putt and throw the Pure. Zero is as follows, least to most OS: soft>med>hard. After that you have the Gold, then Opto not much different. And ipto sparkle has a touch more stability. thrown well, it's a dead straight to turnover disc in all forms.
@woodwindfixer924811 ай бұрын
Just got a couple of discs for Xmas in the lat 64 Frost plastic. Designed for cold temps, but it flies a lot differently (good different) than the gold plastic I am mostly used to. I actually got a flex line out of a river frost which usually holds the line like Toto in the other plastics.
@gogopossum11 ай бұрын
I thoroughly enjoyed the video. Discraft gad confused me forever, thank you!
@CasualRelief11 ай бұрын
You guys are amazeballs!
@tombaynes7120 күн бұрын
Awesome idea and video.
@MichaelSweet-nn5bg11 ай бұрын
Please do MVP next. Love this series.
@WesMoran14 күн бұрын
Late to the party as I’m watching this a second time… But I find the only thing I see differently is Avenger SS in X plastic. It was one of the first disc I bought for myself when I started playing a year ago. Even though I have a slow arm, it’s been a consistent turn disc for me. It, for me, has a genuine -2 turn. Released on flat, it gradually starts to turn and continues that gradual turn throughout. It never burns over to an anheizer angle, but it never really fades either. It’s repeatable and dependable anytime I throw it. Great for attacking any dog leg rights that you don’t want to turn all the way over before pushing past the corner.
@smalleranimals10 ай бұрын
in my experience, the difference from one Buzzz to another, even within the same plastic, is so great that comparisons between plastics seems almost meaningless.
@defjodor15 ай бұрын
It depends on the different shrinkage, so each mold will have a different effect if you change plastic. In the end the disc form makes it stable or not.
@mattrandall783611 ай бұрын
Results lined up with expectations. I would've liked to have seen Z FLX.
@aklevin10 ай бұрын
Darn, that's what I clicked on this video for actually
@paulebell11 ай бұрын
Trilogy or MVP
@johnstratton620711 ай бұрын
In my experience, Big Z is always more overstable then most plastics. I was surprised the roach proved that to be wrong.
@evanstanek583810 ай бұрын
same, Big Z has been my least preferred of all discraft plastics just on feel, but the typical overstability isn't a fit for me either
@Spagooda11 ай бұрын
I've bagged both Z and ESP Buzzz's for a while, and it's always seemed like the Z is less stable for me. It makes me feel less crazy seeing y'all experience the same with the Buzzz SS.
@jacobpechan8 ай бұрын
I’ve experienced the same thing, and I have thrown plenty of different buzzzes in those two plastics and ESP starts out more stable and Z is dead straight
@themanlevan10 ай бұрын
Trilogy (where it’s comparable) and MVP/Axiom/Streamline!
@AlgorithmDG11 ай бұрын
I bag Titanium Raptors, I have tried them all and they're the flattest and most over stable.
@Chadovarius11 ай бұрын
I have an ESP and a TI, but my ESP is more OS than my TI. Both flat, but my ESP is a literal board. I wish they did Titanium in the video. I was curious about the Zone.
@seriousplayersonly3243 ай бұрын
I bought an x avengerss and it was Flippy right out of the box. I tried to use it for a roller for awhile but eventually retired it
@brokenrecord35239 ай бұрын
I found an Avenger SS and loved it for certain turnovers and then lost it. I don't know the weight or plastic. It was a swirly pink, very under stable and didn't come back, so I'm thinking ESP. 😬
@legerdamain713210 ай бұрын
I'd like to see either mvp or latitude 64 plastics compared next.
@meister-t11 ай бұрын
BigZ Buzzz was way more stable than the Z Buzzz, but after a season of throwing both, the BigZ is more understable. Conclusion, BigZ can be more stable out of the box than Z, but beats in much faster.
@discgolfingdad547511 ай бұрын
Great content. Your videos are always well done. Real question-What percentage of people get their hands on any Discraft plastic and say it feels "awesome". It seems like nearly every other manufacturer has at least one plastic that feels better than anything Discraft makes.
@SixSidedDiscs11 ай бұрын
This is an interesting comment. I do agree that some of Discraft's plastics can be a little underwhelming but there's something about them that has people hooked. When they get the swirls right, they are the best around, they feel more organic and random than some of MVP's manufactured swirls
@Joel-cr4nx11 ай бұрын
For premium, I think any of their Flx line plastics feel amazing. Z Flx especially. All their putter line stuff feels great too.
@LJDiscGolf11 ай бұрын
Dang no ti at all
@sdreaver8163 ай бұрын
Have a buzzz ss in Z Jawbreaker I’m trying to learn at the moment
@wisherb111 ай бұрын
I would like to see MVP
@DoBraveryFPSАй бұрын
I'm often having to pick between Z and Big Z. Do they perform the same?
@InbredJed8206011 ай бұрын
Hoping you find some type of scientific test to measure wet vs dry grip
@steveduvall805811 ай бұрын
clash , but just do steady in different colors haha
@JoshJackson1311 ай бұрын
I prefer big z. My big z vulture and machete fly less stable then z but more stable than esp. my big z zone is way more stable then any zone it's almost the same as my star Toro
@JoshJackson1311 ай бұрын
Putter line banger gt is perfect. Little flip up in long putts but the bead gives it stability and grip on ground play. Jawbreaker roach is good for turnover putts. Luna is my turnover thrower super Flippy
@JoshJackson1311 ай бұрын
I also bag Esp and z meteors. I would love to get a big z meteor. But my fission reactor is in that slot for now
@Dav96311 ай бұрын
I bought a crystal flex zone, by far my favorite plastic from any manufacturer yet. Never thought Id like it that much. Would be great to see Kastaplast next! MVP is one as well that all the plastics have similar names and its confusing a bit. And one manufacturer I think nailed it with molds vs plastic is Daredevil, by giving different names to their discs when its an other plastic and flight. So you have the same mold with 3-5 different plastic, they will have different names. Makes it easier to choose a disc without buying a ton. Bought a few lately and their Flex Grip plastic might be my 2nd favorite plastic that I tried this year.
@danielfish125511 ай бұрын
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@brosa121211 ай бұрын
The overwhelming amount of their plastics r why i shy from discraft