WE COULD ALL BE WRONG ABOUT REACTORS | The First Descendant

[@theFullMeasure]

Would you quit playing if the reactor update doesn't include multiple ammo types?

[@Baya86]

Cheers. Nope. I don't really care about reactors xD edit: I'm your 4th Creator Supporter, fcking cheers.

[@TomSweeney89]

No but I will if the content aint hard enough on 10th

[@honestlywhatever]

Of course not. I will riot if they don't start dropping good skins though trust

[@fammud1192]

+1 on MUCH harder content. Reactor farming is impossible, waste of time either way, this changes nothing.

[@samst-louis9389]

No, I'll just stop farming reactors and use my God roll purple reactors.

[@Jossy40921]

I've got just over 900 hours in the game, unlocked every character, maxed out every weapon. There is nothing in this game I hate more than reactor farming, I've got 5 friends that already left that are waiting on my "take" on the reactor changes when it comes out to decide if they'll bother to come back. Honestly, sunken cost fallacy be damned, I'm tired, the reactor farm is a detriment to the game. Why buy a character in the cash shop only to find that the reactor for the character you just bought doesn't hit rotation for 10 days and you have to wait lol, that's not even getting into the luck factor on the rolls and that you can roll elemental bonuses on reactors that are completely worthless (thunder on a chill, dimension on singular, etc) or the FOMO of getting a useable reactor before the window is over and you have to go back to waiting. I've done everything this game has to offer at the moment, unlocked and farmed everything, but the reactor farm is quickly coming to be my make or break, this change is going to have to feel substantial, otherwise I don't think I'm gonna last. If I spent a ton of time already grinding out a character: dungeons, outposts, voidgates, colosii and all...waited for the craft time, have the activator and catalysts ready, I'm genuinely tired of the notion of being held back by a reactor in order for the character to perform properly.

[@theFullMeasure]

I hear you, well written comment and fair points.

[@TraaaaaasshBooooaaaatttt]

I've learnt to not care about perfect stats because they dont give enough of a boost to care especially between blue to gold. A few miniscule % doesn't matter that much

[@masterofthedeathwing2839]

I just migrated to Warframe it's a far better game

[@TraaaaaasshBooooaaaatttt]

@@masterofthedeathwing2839 it very much is. I only stopped playing because i been at it for 6 years. So i just have nothing i want to do

[@jeffrey778]

i want them to take mounting out of the game and replace it with the purple reactor equipped weapon type with 160%. weapon in hands just sucks

[@NeightrixPrime]

This has more filler than a DBZ episode.

[@TyGuyPS5]

Its unfortunate that youtube forces this kind of content. If he was short and to the point algorithms would fuck him.

[@BryanMontford]

If reactor farming is the only thing keeping people in game, then maybe the game should die. A quality of life change shouldn't harm a game, and doing something to address the issues with reactors is a QoL improvement. It's not the only area that could use some help, but as reactors are needed gear for builds, it's significant.

[@kurosanyasuke8236]

I suspect you are correct it would be insane to do so. This game is in danger of failing and they have to be careful

[@theFullMeasure]

This is the thing though, if I'm right people are going to be PISSED and next week is going to be a meltdown

[@RobK-rl6sn]

I think they should just make a couple. Changes like not allowing a fire perk to drop on a toxic reactor or an electric perk, to drop on a fire reactor. That would make the rng not so bad. Just limit a little bit of the hardcore R and g on these reactors

[@CosmicD]

iPhone is exactly what I’ve said yesterday in another KZbin comment. I think you can transplant one weapon (and only the one being on the reactor that is used) on your reactor of choice, but you willingly be able to do that 3 times on the same reactor. So when you do itvoncr, it will display 1/3, 2/3, etc.

[@CarySmith87]

I'm almost sure we will be able to put three different ammo types. Being able to only put three weapons of the same ammo type would be beyond stupid on the devs' part. There's still the rng effect of finding good substats. I think what the devs r trying to do is make sure that when u swap to any of your equipped weapons u would not lose the bonus.

[@cherrybomb0388]

This is what I think as well. It may even be a progressive buff so you only get the full buff by having all 3 of the reactors listed weapons attached.

[@grumpyoldman6503]

The dumb off substats are still in the RNG layer cake. Get rid of the main element conflicts, total waste of my time.

[@grumpyoldman6503]

​​@@cherrybomb0388Yes, it's not an accident they chose 3 as the number for the mounting. It makes zero sense to have 3 sniper rifles mounted, nor does it make sense to have a sniper, a shotgun, and a launcher when you only get 10 rounds for the 1st weapon.

[@Cagon415]

There's enough rng already. We still have the tedious external components grind.

[@grumpyoldman6503]

Absolutely. I don't think substat reroll or exchange is unreasonable as well. I understand the desire to need something to do, but not just pouring empty hours at naked RNG in shitty drop missions. That shit might fly in Korea, but that dog doesn't hunt in the rest of the world. I've got other, better options thx. And I say that as a person with many 100s of hours on TFD already and all the shit to get (beyond these miniscule max rolls)... got.

[@Cagon415]

​@@grumpyoldman6503 yeah, I learned my lesson from the division 2. At a certain point, I don't need that extra .02%.

[@KirariKonishi]

They need to add meaningful content to the game to keep players from getting bored. People are still likely to leave due to the difficulty of obtaining a reactor with the right modifiers or from burnout caused by repeating the same, less engaging missions.

[@theFullMeasure]

Burnout is much more likely to cause people to leave than reactors not dropping. The people who leave because of reactors would have quit on Enduring Legacy x4 as well :D

[@michaelbeckettii3686]

@@theFullMeasurelol, or Secret Garden Nano Tubes IYKYK

[@bogardmelgarejo8848]

@@michaelbeckettii3686 those bastards are a pain, last weekend y open about 35 and not a single one drop

[@supamau2196]

Dunno why nexon isnt referencing what other successful games do to extend the life of the game, look at monster hunter world for example, the end game stuff is actually a million times better than the first decendant.

[@KirariKonishi]

@@supamau2196 Probably going for what is cheap and easy.

[@samst-louis9389]

Off topic but never seen a game before with snipers/shotguns and launchers in the same category...it's weird! Thanks bro and fck'n cheers. 🍻

[@theFullMeasure]

Any time!

[@DrSmirnoff]

Balancing stuff like this must be a nightmare. Reactors are the only thing I have issue with. Personally, Reactor farming is something I don't participate in because of the RNG on RNG on RNG. Once I get the correct mounting and 1 usable substat I stop. I'm not spending weeks trying to get a perfect reactor or near perfect. They could get rid of reactors as a whole and it would not affect anything for me since I give it the least amount of my time possible. Now if every mission would cap out my inventory with reactors sure, give me that dopamine hit. But when a mission only gives like 2, the frustration sets in and I'm done. Getting like 6% Cooldown or 30% Crit Rate that only ends up giving me like 1% overall Crit Rate is not worth it to me to get frustrated over. The current way to acquire Reactors will make me walk away before allowing me to not have to ever farm them again.

[@theFullMeasure]

While substats are important it's most about the 20% different in Power between Purple and Gold. Not a big deal for most but 20% is massive for min maxing

[@BryanMontford]

@@theFullMeasure We have 22 characters, about as many legendary weapons, and currently to fully max either (for more than a single use scenario) we have to invest 22 catalysts and an an energy activator (assuming a bossing and mobbing build and two tabs for a weapon) and how many hours is that? More than a few are going the way of Mediocrates with, "Eh, good enough". There is insufficeint reward, insufficient content, and too many impediments are barriers currently.

[@SnoopVee]

This reactor mystery is gonna make or break for alot of players lol

[@theFullMeasure]

hahahahaha

[@heavycloud6173]

it reads to me as we can fuse reactors of the same type and pick what perks we want to transfer into a new reactor

[@tiltbag7270]

Excellent and very astute points. Ty. Furthermore, I’m hanging onto all my half decent toxic reactors. I have a sneaky suspicion Ultimate Freyna is coming with an exclusive transcendent that’s NOT tech. Anyway I’m at end game and frankly Oct 10 cant come soon enough. 👍

[@darvader00]

This is exactly what I was thinking the moment I saw the dev notes. Besides this change, I would like to see an increased drop rate for reactors as well.

[@grumpyoldman6503]

I want them to cull mismatched elements from the RNG pool as well.

[@THE_FRAKEN]

Would really like to see a feature like the library in division 2, you have too farm the reactor with the wepon type you want and you have too disassembled it and the attribute roll goes into a "library" and can be applied to another reactor slot. He'll go for broke and do it with the sub attributes too😂

[@theFullMeasure]

I like it

[@grumpyoldman6503]

Add in optimization too and I'll grind everything up to max... eventually. Just like I did with the 7k hrs I spent in div2.

[@skinnii3dart844]

I think they will allow us to have multiple bullet types for the weapons on a reactor. However if you pick up a really good impact rounds reactor it will be locked to that impact rounds weapon i.e. you will not be able to replace the original weapon mounting for that reactor with another one, you will only be able to add weapons to it. Also the weapon you add will need to come from exactly the same type of reactor. So you can't just farm fire dimension reactors for example and add their weapons to a chill singular reactor. Finally we have no idea what resource will be needed to add the weapons to the reactor. The longevity lost through not having to farm for the reactors could be made up by farming for the resources needed to add weapons to a reactor.

[@umbralarmy1776]

I think they mentioned the resources necessary would be attainable by completion of 400% infiltrations, the new ones being added on Oct.10th.

[@zanehamstead5931]

So after doing a little bit of research, I'm pretty sure that there is a translation issue with the Reactor Implant system mentioned in the "Development Note Vol. 14" posted on 9/26. The English translation says: "To reduce the inconvenience of having to farm a new Ultimate Reactor every time you switch to a new weapon, we're introducing the Reactor Implant system." This would suggest that it is coming on October 10th alongside these other updates mentioned; however, I think we should expect this to come later. Here's why: In an interview with IGN at Tokyo Game Show the developers say: "We’ve also got an update planned for late October that will address feedback on resource defense missions, shortening the playtime and enhancing the monster-battle experience." This rework coming with the Resource Defense Missions is mentioned in the same paragraph along with the Reactor Implant System on the Dev Note. I was confused myself, so after looking into it further, I got the Dev Update 14 and translated it to English myself and the language regarding the reactors changed to "We plan to introduce a 'reactor implantation' system..." I think the last paragraph of that update was intended to allude to stuff coming in future Season 1 updates and not necessarily on October 10th. Doesn't really change anything regarding reactors right NOW and I hope I'm wrong, but I'm not convinced it's coming on the 10th.

[@theFullMeasure]

Entirely possible it doesn't hit on 10th of October however that's not really the point of the video. The date is arbitrary to me at this point, the system itself is rather worth talking about.

[@zanehamstead5931]

@@theFullMeasure 100% agree! I'm for sure not looking forward to keeping a bunch of reactors around for a month until we learn exactly how it works, but it is what it is. Just trying to inform and temper expectations because it's what I'm most excited about for this season.

[@feldjager2869]

iam sick of farming a reactor..... i wasted 1 whole week to farm a reactor for Lepic and guess what that what i get was only a blue and purple attribute.... running 500 - 1000 times the same mission and getting of 4000 reactors only one not even a good one ?? Just NO ...

[@rickjames3249]

Farming games just ain't what they used to be tbh i been stop playing.

[@matthewflores4183]

Skill issue

[@Weeeeeeeeeeeezy]

@@matthewflores4183lol

[@RamzaJinnRuu]

​@@matthewflores4183How is that a skill issue? You are what we call a NPC. You brung nothing.

[@fammud1192]

You had better luck than me, never seen the rolls at all, in any colour, for any reactor I've tried to farm. So much useless spam in reactor rolls. I've completely given up on reactor farming, it's hopeless. This is not "something to do".

[@ejonestoo]

I've been thinking a lot about what these changes could mean, and coming from a dev/corpo background I think you're right. They tried to dangle a carrot for us to rerun missions with Inversion Reinforcement and I don't know if anyone is even looking at that. They lowered the skill floor on the colossi and dungeons to keep people from giving up. I love the dev because they are responsive and trying really hard to make this work clearly, but I don't know what is the magic lever to encourage people to keep logging in.

[@theFullMeasure]

Yup, they can also be too 'reactive' and basically bend to any whim which is also detrimental to the overall lifespan of the game

[@MeltonCrest]

They are not trying hard or otherwise, they only thing they're trying to do is to keep their walking breathing wallets from running away and they fail even at that. So far they haven't given anybody anything that was requested. More content? Nope, just recycle the same dungeons again and again.

[@PrettyFlyForAMemeGuy]

It seems like grinding is the center of this game and I get that it’s tedious, but I can’t be the only one that feels like people are going to push to simplify things too much. Now to address the fact that every creator has been preaching to farm these mis-mounted weapons when this is something that could be a complete mistranslation, I can already see the community biting back at the developers for not fulfilling a narrative that they mistakenly wrote themselves. Not all the creators are saying it as a matter of fact, but when they’re suggesting people to pour hours into a speculation, they won’t be the ones to suffer the backlash EDIT: Update notes have dropped, I was right(kinda). None of these topics were in the update as expected, but that doesn’t mean it won’t happen in the future. Should you farm mis-mounted reactors? Absolutely not, don’t waste your time when it can be applied immediately and effectively

[@steel8240]

Think you are spot on here, cheers! I know I’m in a very small minority (perhaps so small it’s just me) but I see the biggest problem being people wanting to blast thru everything. “Fastest leveling techniques, most efficient farming” now I get it if you’re a content creator and you’re trying to churn out content. But average folks? Seriously? So you end up jumping in the bunny cave, doing the valby 500, aborting void shards (where you get nothing but xp) to what end? No wonder so many people are bored or whatever. All those things right there are lame AF and mind numbingly insane. I just play the game. I level descendants and guns together. Can honestly say bunny is my least used (and least liked characters. But she’s not at the bottom; I absolutely hated Luna, Kyle & Blair. I’ll at least take her out from time to time) but anyway, long story short, I think a lot of folks would be a lot better off if they weren’t in a hurry to ‘finish’ something. Just my 2 cents

[@hawkalypse7329]

If this is, in fact, the change, it will cause a significant drop off in players. Reactor farming is the last thing people want to be doing with their time.

[@mrlizardman8000]

It is rare you need two guns of the same bullet type, which is why it would make absolutely no sense to restrict this to same bullet type. I will accept being wrong if I am wrong, but I have enough hope in devs of this game to understand this. It has to be any combination of bullet types.

[@theFullMeasure]

I'm good either way, if it's all ammo types I have all the reactors farmed out already :D

[@ChrisMantia]

farming out a good gold gold mod is already hard enough as it is. I'm more likely to quit if its too hard to achieve my goals than if they are too easy

[@theFullMeasure]

This might be true for you but generally if things are attainable to easy people move on faster since it's also missing the 'omg it finally dropped' factor, which many people play looter shooters for. Different people are different :)

[@grumpyoldman6503]

I've always said it's better to leave out of boredom than rage quit out of frustration.

[@LWebb-md1uv]

I'm Already bored and tired of the grind and haven't even done a reactor grind! Absolutely not Doing that !!!

[@fammud1192]

I've been playing since launch, maxed out just about everything that matters, and never even seen a vaguely decent reactor, not once. I tried reactor farming for a good while, now I just don't bother any more because it seems impossible. From my experience this change is too little, I still have zero hope of ever finding the two sub-stats I want (and I don't mean gold rolls).

[@2005tcooley]

Instead of making it so convoluted with modifying a reactor, they should just let you equip 3 reactors, 1 for each gun slot and they switch depending on what gun you are holding. This would keep the farming for them the same as they are now and correct the issue of not having to swap out a reactor for each gun that they were trying to solve in the first place.

[@stewpeanut]

i think it'll be a system similar to the level transmission for weapons. where you can 'transfer' the mount from another reactor you have in hand. that said, reactor farming is junk. >1k hrs and still looking for a decent reactor is just silly.

[@AlejandroSanchez-jy3pv]

I dont think reactor farming retains a significant number of players so that is a thing to consider

[@supamau2196]

IMHO this reactor change the devs are rolling out is rather useless and not properly thought of. We can easily farm a reactor for a specific mount, the issue is the random sub stats for the reactor. I would prefer for the dev to narrow down the pool of stats and let us roll them with materials to try to get the preferred stat ala weapons. Also let us upgrade the reactors further would be nice too. But this coming change, sigh, its just pointless.

[@GintsG]

First of all, that there very likely could be a catch, and it might not be as great as everyone thinks. However, I see Reactors bullet type only to improve odds, structure the farming, and have a wider spread around the map to have wider variaty. This is the only reason bullet type is there, which still makes me think it cannot be like you say. Adding up to 3 mounting from the same bullet type doesn't make sense! After all, the game is still in the middle of the 1st Season! There will be dozens of new weapons, making farming still difficult for 80-90% of people to get that perfect combo in the future. I still want to be hopful!

[@Glutenfreechips]

exactly, plus i see no indication in any of the game logic that shows us that reactors are contingent on the weapon bullet type, the only two factors that limit a reactor are its element and ability type (tech, singular, etc.) you get tons of reactors all the time that have different bullet types and the farmable reactors each week rotate between bullet types for the several combinations of element and ability type.

[@theshocker_guy5966]

I like you're ideal hope that is what they are meaning. But when you say people are walking away from the game that they have nothing to do that's a "you problem" What I mean by that is streamer's and content creator's rush through the games and then complain there is nothing for them todo, this is what is killing the games.

[@SkyDra9on]

You could be correct on this one, but it would be nice for them to create good redoable content rather than relying on a sucky mindless continous grind feast for reactors.

[@theFullMeasure]

Content is king, agreed

[@Parallel_45]

It is very possible what you said is true about how the system will work. However, I don't think anyone will stay with the game just to farm reactors so I disagree that would be a way to retain players.

[@englishcaboose1877]

I agree with your view that it will only be in the same ammo type, that is what I have been thinking it will be especially as it states "and you can freely implant Weapon Optimization Conditions based on your weapon settings" weapon settings to me sounds lile weapon/ammo type and is just translated funky

[@theFullMeasure]

Exactly what I thought

[@kylepittman9565]

You also have to consider is "actually" being able to find the affixes you want. I have almost 800 hours in the game and still using purple reactors on all 3 of my mains. IE, I can't find a reactor for my Kyle that doesn't roll with fire/chill/electric/toxic/bonus dmg to the other useless affixes. This is the fix that needs to happen. I absolutely don't like this new system they are doing. All this amounts to me is lazy development. Its just a band-aid and doesn't fix the "real" issue as far as I am concerned.

[@hawkalypse7329]

"This might kill the reactor farm..." good, kill it, boring waste of time with a ridiculous amount of rng behind it. It's not like it will be easy after the change, it will still take a looooong time to find an idea reactor, and you will likely repeat the process for different builds on the same character, as well as for each other character.

[@drollyrancher7020]

How to solve this issue: Let players Re-roll reactors, like you can weapons. Imagine if you couldn't reroll weapons? So you had to make 1,000+ Enduring Legacies until you got good stats.

[@Dawid0912]

For me this mean you could pick 3 weapons, can be same types, can be different. What's the point of having 3 weapon slots if all weapon have same purpose? Imo it's still worth to farm freyna reactor, but it use it as regular spot that can drop reactor, which would be fine for character that use only skills for mobing. You have nothing to loose, but only to gain, it's better to drop 50% usefull reacor than drop one that doesn't have any purpose. I also recommend to farm memory for weapon exp which happend to be in really good spot that you would go.

[@virtualwarrior3902]

It’s not being able to have multiple weapons for the mounting it’s saying that we can switch the mounting to a different weapon

[@kingcurmudgeon8685]

Farming for the perfect reactor isn’t gonna keep me engaged in lieu of actual aspirational content. The game has a nice launch and there was lots to do but it’s looking like it’s gonna be stale for a while. They need to make nice again flow Warframes model and have daily and weekly things that keep you logging in

[@Weeeeeeeeeeeezy]

I was late to the game and have been playing for a little over a month. I keep my eyes on reactors but I’ll be damned if I’d farm one. I’m coming from Destiny & the Division. You have to prioritize shit in a game like this. Regular people need to realize you can’t build like a youtuber.

[@WhiskeyTango0420]

I'm around 500 hours played. I've farmed reactors for maybe 3 of those hours. The current system isn't adding to the longitivty of the game for me.

[@theFullMeasure]

It's not for everyone and Purple reactors are much easier to farm out and offer only 20% less in terms of power. It's pretty much for min maxers

[@Yaroshi86]

I doubt it will kill the reactor farm. You usually need 2 of the same reactors with colossus and (x) and one with both of your main stat. And you need that for all reactors, fire etc. So there is still plenty to farm's. If anything it will save on inventory space.

[@tim6986]

hmm. i never thought we'd be able to implant weapon types on purple reactors. but i did think that implanting the weapon on ultimate would not consider bullet type, but would only work for actual ultimate weapons. like a good reactor with fallen hope, i could implant thundercage, secret garden, and piercing light. not to use any weapon of those types, but to use only those 3 weapons on that reactor. i hope that's how it is.

[@marxdrive]

Hey bud, your point would hold more weight if a huge number of players were hardcore farming reactors. I can only speak for myself but I have nearly 600 hrs, despite only starting to play at the end of pre-season, and I have only farmed for reactors once. The benefit of having a 5 out of 5 is not worth the grind. A reactor for a boss must have a 2 out of 5 in most cases - Colossus damage and mounting. You will do less damage, but this means it will take 12 seconds to kill the boss solo instead of 4. After realising what reactors I would need, I have been able to get most reactors up to a 4 out of 5 just from general play.

[@CaptainKipo-n6g]

I agree with him they will either limit the implant system to ammo type OR they will make players spend a large chunk of resource to implant

[@JtsTubes]

after reading the patch notes this is what i thought as well.

[@Antiichristo]

Hyped for Oct 10th!🎃💀🍑

[@theFullMeasure]

same here!

[@MasterStacona]

It sounds like they are making it where you farm for reactors and then you do something else to farm for another item that you can put on your reactor that will add another gun to that reactor and you can have up to 3 guns on the same reactor. And the item that gives additional weapons to that reactor does not sound like it would be choice pick, if random cannot roll a gun that is already on the reactor. I imagine it would be all of the same bullet type.

[@bharathigokull-ou3ds]

true reactor farm is end game the is no content but they just need to increace the reactor drop rate on mission

[@Jenbiptery]

We don't know how reactor implanting will work. I am curious. Do you sacrifice a reactor into your desired reactor? Or, do you sacrifice a weapon into it? Or, something else completely? We will see soon.

[@theFullMeasure]

Yup, week to go :)

[@ZishanKhan-yr4ed]

This is a really good point not one I thought of but one I have adaptively doing because I'm use to how games like this work and how the devs think. It's kinda obvious. But I'm sure not many ppl are actually thinking about this and are thinking the way you mentioned that is ridiculous and you need to check yourself for power hunger. 😂

[@theFullMeasure]

hahahaha

[@jhiieri7812]

Great info! I actually thought you could attach 2 more weapons to an Ultimate Reactor... so have one reactor for Your 3 favorite guns for that one Descendant.

[@gregsly308]

oh my God I hope you are so wrong I was seriously this far away from walking away from this game simply because of this reactor Farm which is just horrible . for example I have been doing the freyan farm this week trying to get a skill cooldown spell power increase I am 18 hours into this farm and still do not have one . I've been trying for 3 weeks to get a bunny reactor. trust me if we can put any weapon on any reactor it's still a shitshow to farm

[@Augxst13]

Agreed. I feel you can switch the weapon mount of that particular ammo type and not the other way around how people are saying. We just need to wait and see how it works on the update.

[@theFullMeasure]

Yup, time will tell

[@Gigadander]

I honestly think this is going to be similar to how guns level upgrades work. You trash a reactor you want and apply it to the reactor you have.

[@rickyjanzen6684]

Obviously, we'll find out on the 10th, but I don't see how it could possibly be confined to the same ammo type. That would be an absolutely useless change for 99% of people's scenarios and a complete waste of the developers' time. Sure, allowing any weapon type would reduce the farm time like you said. However, they've already made changes to reduce farm/grind times several times already. Perhaps to their long-term detriment, but it has improved short-term morale and player enjoyment which seems to be their primary focus at the moment (really hoping it holds and they can extend the game in other ways as I really enjoy the game). If anything, you won't be able to change the initial ammo type, but will be able to add to it--so the "Freyna" example would have its first slot locked with what dropped, but you could add 2 others of your choice to it. I'm also expecting adding another weapon onto your reactor won't be the cheapest process in the game. You'll likely have to grind up a considerable amount (or specific, rare/expensive) of mats to make any changes. I imagine that's where they'll make up the longevity of reducing the reactor farm process.

[@grumpyoldman6503]

If nothing else it's another sorely needed gold sink. Right now I have hundreds of millions of gold and nothing to spend it on really. Oh how times have changed.

[@sirmalof3255]

I mean, they don't mention anything about bullet type. They only say this system will allow people to switch weapon without having to refarm the reactor. The info on the map is still useful. Maybe you need a reactor of the same type but with a different weapon to implement it. I think you are wrong on your interpretation

[@arpanConYT]

yes i told a lot of people the same thing.. it might me just same type -- not any random gun u want

[@theFullMeasure]

Yup, it's specifically that part in the wording where they mention system(which might be translated wrongly and could mean ammo type)

[@xPookinator]

Oh hey that’s me lol. I was talking about the orange rounds reactor farm for Freyna not the purple rounds.

[@theFullMeasure]

All three missions in Ironworks have pretty terrible reactor per hour yields, it's not an optimal area to farm. With the compound RNG on reactors you want as many drops in as short amount of time to be efficient, you could still get lucky and find a great drop but as mentioned in my reactor videos I focus on efficiency firstly, which affects my choices. My assumption was you meant Rockfall as many others did, which is a very efficient farm albiet for High-power rounds.

[@hikmatmarashdeh2293]

this makes sense and i agree with what you said

[@dloc5994]

I disagree the reactor farm is a shitty grind no one likes it an most will leave trying to run this one mission for a week an get crap..so making that easier is good we still have to grind mods an component so 1 less thing to run a million times is great for me but my Rng is super bad..they need to find the line between grind an fun grinding does not always mean fun

[@Spechulk22]

I have been thinking the same thing. That's why I have only been farming ironworks.

[@d1zzleTX]

I respect you man and appreciate what you do, but I ABSOLUTELY disagree and here's why: 1. I have over 600hrs in the game with 50+ of those hours farming reactors(5k - 10k reactors farmed). I have NEVER gotten a single gold/gold perfect god roll for any descendant. Reactor farming is in no danger of dying even with this change. 2. The only people who have "nothing left to do" are literally less than 1% of the player base(probably point01%). With 600hrs I still have TONS of stuff left to do. 3. Only allowing a single ammo type would do nothing to help the problem. Nobody runs that. 4. Each Descendant needs a diff God roll, many need multiple diff reactors/God rolls. This is still a metric F-ton of farming even with the change. Like I said, I still don't have a single double gold god roll for any of the 18 descendants with 600+ hrs played. Cheers!

[@grumpyoldman6503]

Agree withball of this. Well put and I'm similar with similar hours sunk.

[@cyptoboi1898]

yup. agree with you. now I already max all weapon(except hand gun forgot the name) and descendant. if you can switch the multiple ammo type freely. Before Nov, I'm sure enough I don't need to search for reactor farm of the week. Just focus on external components. then guess what people will complaint about next?

[@theFullMeasure]

Complainers gonna complain :)

[@turnersutherland]

If its general rounds. Youll be able to add other general round weapon mounts to the reactor. Absolutely no way they will make it so you can have multiple round types for mounting. For example; King guard lance, python, and piercing light on a reactor. No way they would do that.

[@skulls_crusher303]

I totally get what u mean but bro, making the reactor farming this hard is also not a solution… like its just so frustrating trying to get what u want, its frustrating to the point where people are actually leaving the game because of how impossible it is to get 2 gold stats and the preferred weapon. I know 4-5 people who quit already and im also this close to quitting myself. Its like less than a 1% chance of getting what u want man and this also definitely hurts the game.

[@skulls_crusher303]

I say if they wanna keep people playing the game then the solution is adding new content or new things to farm for. I have so much time invested in this game and i have all my ultimate weapons fully upgraded and never felt bored doing all that. But this? This is something else. The feeling of getting screwed over multiple times repeating the same damn mission thousands of times and still get nothing is just not it. And the fact that u can get fire/chill elements on your toxic reactor or singular/fusion on a tech reactor is beyond annoying. As a matter of fact i think they should also remove that on top of making the weapon implant system have different ammo types to make it some what fair.

[@xrwby1542]

My thoughts were they were gonna let you switch the weapon, but keep the same type of ammo

[@w1mark275]

What if the changes mean that you can't specifically put 3 differnt weapons on a reactor, but you can instead "add" 2 more ultimate weapons randomly on an ult reactor. So like, you have 2 more chances per reactor to get the perfect weapon type on your reactor. It would essentially be like what reactor farming is now, but potentially* cutting the grind down by a third. But at the same time it could make reactor rng even worse for the most diehard farmers since now you're gonna want to try to chase for perfect stat roll reactors which have the 3 specific weapon types that you want on it. (assuming that they can be any ult weapon and not just one which is of a specific weapon type) Edit: Maybe how this could work is if you combine one reactor with another, it inherits a random weapon optimization condition based on what the consumed reactor was. So for instance you have a good reactor with a bad optimization condition, you feed it a general rounds ultimate reactor and it will add a random general rounds optimization condition onto your reactor. Say you get the thunder cage optimization condition and you want to keep it. You can then add a special rounds reactor onto your reactor for a chance to get a both a thunder cage and a secret garden optimization on it. Bad news, it gives you an optimization condition for guards lance instead. Now you have a reactor with both thunder cage and guards lance on it, but you're stuck with those. If you want a reactor that has both thunder cage and secret garden on it, you're now going to have to farm for another reactor to roll for thunder cage and secret garden again.

[@justforfun7112]

Its better than endless bullshit farming

[@stevo6ix]

It kinda doesn't make sense for the reactors to change the ammo type. But it make sense to change mounting type weapon. So many times I find a great reactor but has the peacemaker the mounting weapon a weapon i don't have yet, so that would help the farming process of reactors, I think you are right.

[@airborne1868]

It's not a big issue to find the right mounting weapon on a reactor , it's the attributes that suck . I don't need multiple weapons for one reactor I want to be able to reroll the attributes .

[@dennhicks]

I think you're absolutely right but the cost is way too high. takes way too many adjusters

[@TrapNerdRob]

No completely agree what you said i thought it would be the same bullet type as well im good on that cuz i have a perfect enduring legacy reactor on gley and i can add python which is general rounds as well as well as for toxic for frenya

[@smithcubs]

I guess we have to wait and see. It doesnt bother me though, I have great reactors for my descendents.

[@bearable55]

You might be on to something. With the "Insane Reactors." A new reactor class.

[@theFullMeasure]

ooooh

[@phaseout7944]

I believe you might be right

[@lordofwar5790]

What they should have done for ultimate reactors: - 160% bonus if you have the weapon equipped and active - 140% (like purple reactors) if the weapon is equipped but not active - reroll sub-stats using an item we need to craft using materials gathered from breaking down other ultimate reactors I can't tell you how many times I got the weapon rolled on the reactor but horrible sub-stats. While this change is great, I feel I still prefer purple reactors over ultimate ones due to not having to worry about specific weapons. For example, trying a new weapon out that doesn't match the 3 selected results in instant power loss. From this we don't know if there is any additional material cost to do this reactor implant. If it costs just the reactor being implanted and gold then that is fine. If it also requires a crafted material then it will just keep me using purple reactors unless I find a literal god roll ultimate reactor.

[@theFullMeasure]

Reroll on substats ala weapon substats reroll would be GOAT

[@ericfeddeler]

I really have been hopeful for 1 reactor with all weapon types. The main reason is because of the statement,"every time you change your weapon" We change our weapons when we are playing and I hope that means we can just add our 3 weapons for our build to one reactor and move on. The we just need to truly seek double golds. Most of my reactors are double purple or gold and blue with the exact combo I want.

[@Alaa-2-1]

Maybe there is something that we can buy from the ETA-0 vendor that requires us to run 400% invasion x time to get enough currency to buy it, and then we need to farm for another reactor with the weapon we want to transfer that mounting weapon to the new reactor we want.

[@theFullMeasure]

Doubt it, basically you 'copy' the desired mounting from an existing reactor you have to the new reactor 'over-writing' the current mounting or adding to it if there's not 3 present yet.

[@Alaa-2-1]

@@theFullMeasure  You have to farm 3 reactors so they match your primary, secondary, and sidearm. That way, whenever you change your weapon, the reactor is still active. For example, when running non-attributed tech descendants in invasion. I want to run everything with Secret Garden so I get the tech talent from the Secret Garden (I need a reactor with Secret Garden mounting). Then, for mobbing, I need to switch to Peacemaker for the non-attributed skill buff (so I need a reactor with Peacemaker mounting). Then, when I enter the boss room, I want to change the Peacemaker to Enduring Legacy (so I need a reactor with Enduring Legacy mounting)...etc. And with every mounting weapon transfer, you need to do 400% invasion missions x times so you can transfer the mounting weapon from the trash reactor to the better one.

[@SpOoNmAn365]

I agree 100% with you. There's noooo way they let us put any 3 type of weapon on the same reactor. By the way, have you noticed the substat rolls are more ridiculous than usual? Every toxic reactor has either a fire boost, chill or electric, or Both! Same for everything I've farmed since yesterday's reset, I'm seeing hardly any crit dmg or rate boosts, it's all 100% non-related elements on them. I can't tell you how many toxic/techs I've gotten that had dimension and fire on it! They need to remove some of them from the bloated loot pool.

[@theFullMeasure]

Would love to be able to reroll substats like we can reroll weapons :/

[@ninj4xninj448]

Why dont they just add a shard to let you reroll reactor weapon type or sub stat so i can get toxic off a electric reactor?😂

[@anonlemming9977]

Imma say this everywhere, and people may think I'm crazy or wrong, but i don't think that the reactor changes are going to be going live on October 10th. The reason being is that the section that the reactor implant system is brought up in, is a section called "And the reset of the additional Season 1 Updates", implying that these features are for updates to come after Oct 10th.

[@theFullMeasure]

According to the original roadmap there were 3 updates in Season 1, but this was changed when the community revolted and called it drip feeding content. After this we got the schedule revised and half at the start with the rest dropping on October 10th. I'm 99% sure reactor changes drop next week.

[@anonlemming9977]

@@theFullMeasure Unfortunately, the reactor system changes were never an intended part of the Season 1 content which is what is dropping on October 10th. The changes to the reactor system was first mentioned in a Q&A in late august, and was only confirmed as an upcoming feature in the Dev Note 14. Which brings me to the second reason for why I don't believe the Reactor Implant system is going to drop on October 10th, and that is because of a recent interview given by the devs in Japan. In this interview, the devs mentioned an update planned for late October that would address changes to the resource defense special ops, the same kind of changes mentioned in the Dev Note 14 alongside the Reactor Implant System. All in all, it just leads me to believe that both, the reactor changes and the defense spec ops mission changes wont be coming on October 10th, though they will be coming and I'm still looking forward to them.

[@theFullMeasure]

@@anonlemming9977 Thanks for the reply, but honestly when it drops is of far less importance to me than the system and how it will work, hence the video. Whether it drops the 10th or the 30th doesn't change the point of the video.

[@gerhardschelkmann3228]

It is possible that you might only switch to a weapon of the same ammunition type but I keep farming for good reactors on the good farming spot and hope we will switch the weapon without an ammunition barrier 🤷‍♂️ the 10th will bring clarity

[@theFullMeasure]

Yup, we gotta wait

[@josea.sanchez8825]

I dont think will afect the logevity coz if u take The Division 2 as example, u can chose ur loot at the Electric Plant mission and recive wathever u are looking and that game have longevity. The problem whit The Division are other Dev decisions.

[@michael_rodriguez]

They need a nightmare mode for end game elite players, with higher rewards obviously

[@theFullMeasure]

Let's see what level 400 Infiltrations are like

[@xjdog15]

you are so right about this i have seen alot of video saying it doesnt matter what type we farm for anymore

[@theFullMeasure]

I could also be wrong and they could be right, let's see :)

[@NasGuardia]

lol do people really think that they can add mixed up ammo types? :D it was kinda obvious that it will contain same ammo type different guns, like for all snipers, all shotguns or rocket launchers, similar how purple reactors work, dont ask for easy mode in grindy games

[@Sincanister]

I would like the ult reactors be like the purple ones where you have the gun equiped as 1 of your 3 guns you get the mounting bonus. Currently purple reactors are best unless you only use 1 gun which is stupid as shit. I hope whatever this implanting system is makes reactors better because the current system is dumb as fuck.

[@Mick_Miller]

love this game but november 20, I'll be heading to the Zone for awhile.

[@MrS5430]

I hate it when people make a video about anything and say that the player base is dropping how can you tell show me the data. The only data that is always shown is steam and the major players are on console people got to stop saying there isn't enough content the player base is dying those are false information. I think people should look back at Anthem and Destiny 2. The First Descendant is doing just fine and better then most games

[@littleman350]

Reactors are the only thing in the game besides drop rates that make no sense to me. I have watched all kinds of videos and at this point I am just putting on what somebody says is good for each character although they say it isn't that easy.

[@erniesanchez7191]

Sounds more like you would be mad cuz all of your farming…. They have constantly been doing things to stop the grind despite the repercussions. But you’re probably right .

[@MasterStacona]

What I would change is Descendant leveling process to keep players grinding: 1. Catalysts will polarize the slot for all modules, no longer need to select 1 type per catalyst. 2. Once all slots have been polarized on that descendant, then the descendant can level all the way to 100, still gaining utility and defense stats with each level up. 3. 1-40 level exp requirement is cut in half, 40-100 exp is drastically higher with a very steep exp curve. 4. Actually trying to get to 100 is a near-impossible achievement so that players always have something to work towards.

[@marcelfab7551]

Does not matter to me I randomly got a final masterpiece double gold substats!

[@bradpiper3351]

100% agree with you that they won't make reactors with each bullet type yes it would be fantastic but like you say it would kill the game ah hope they fix the reactor with there proper attributes ie: electric and singular on a electric an singular reactor not fire and chilled if that makes sense love your videos man keep them coming fuckin cheers 😂

[@theFullMeasure]

Yes! That's the change I want more than anything, no more dead substats :D