We Deserve A Better Way To Buy And Sell Vinyl Records Online!

One year ago, I talked about a site (www.nasdisc.com) that I said would be the future of buying and selling vinyl records online. I still believe it could be. I got a little sidetracked opening my record store, but I had some time to check back in with the Nasdisc team and they have some very promising updates to their already impressive online marketplace.
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[@Shawn_at_Sound_Advice]

I have been selling and buying on Discogs 22 years. Ebay 30. I just don't see the issues you present as real for a halfway educated buyer. If you wanna get into the space, more competition won't hurt anything.

[@themarccox]

Ebay wasn't around 30 years ago

[@StuntrockConfusion]

Discogs marketplace has been around only in 17 years, and ebay in 25 years, what are you talking about?

[@ironlung2323]

You weren't harsh about discogs. I test software for a living and it's a bad website for 10 yrs ago.

[@TooManyRecords]

I felt bad but I felt like my complaints were fair.

[@FogAndLime]

i took a quick peek at Nasdisc and it looks HORRIBLE. 1999 internet vibes. Selection is awful----they have NONE of the underground records i am after, like literally NONE. This may be good for mainstream stuff but it doesn't cut it otherwise. I miss GEMM-----GEMM was a great database for searching for records---SUPER BASIC, i was so sad when it went away. It was purely a marketplace.

[@TooManyRecords]

You and I had very different 1999 internet experiences.

[@FogAndLime]

@@TooManyRecords its a really badly designed website. i mean Discogs isn't a shining example of a great site, but at least they can create a pull down menu for release versions!? ACK----this reminds me of a geocities site i made back in the day.

[@zzzandy]

I haven't used Nasdisc yet but I am impressed with the features you describe. I'll check it out! I'd also love to start selling and for some reason can't seem to get myself to do it on Discogs. The connecting to someone who is already looking for a record I may own is so appealing.

[@TooManyRecords]

I agree! It takes out the guesswork and stress completely.

[@nitro5247]

Thank you so so SO much for talking about this. I’ve been an avid user of Discogs since I started collecting records a few years ago, and it’s really bothered me how the site has so many problems that the people running it seem to not care enough to fix. It’s really great to hear that there’s such a promising alternative, though-Nasdisc looks like a fantastic little app, and I’m excited to try it out! Thanks again for telling us about it Matt, I really hope that the rest of the community gets to see this video.

[@TooManyRecords]

Thanks homie!

[@strupp1]

Looking forward to international shipping. Since I‘m outside the US, that is really the only thing holding me back from the site. I hope it takes off, Discogs is in such a bad state at the moment.

[@BillCooperMusic]

Wow. I had no idea this site even existed. I'm not a huge fan of Discogs so it's nice to know there's a better option that honestly seems better for both the end user and the artists involved. Great video. Thanks mate. ❤

[@shinco18]

Probably never gonna happen but imagine if you could import your collection from Discogs.... having to enter my whole collection again is a bit daunting. Great video, thanks!

[@TooManyRecords]

I'm sure there will be a solution for this... if there isn't already.

[@shinco18]

@@TooManyRecords It would certainly help the rapid growth of their site. I'm pretty sure many people are still clinging to Discogs only for the collection/database features.

[@TheAgeOfAnalog]

@@TooManyRecords when a lot of people, myself included, about 10 years ago, decided to bail from Flickr to Ipernity, they offered an importer app.

[@Ripper77pep]

You can upload your Discogs collection :)

[@guybush3808]

What about the pics?@@Ripper77pep

[@wilbertmatthews]

Thank you. This was helpful. Selling records online is very complicated to the amateur.

[@nicholasdoheny8702]

Used Nasdisc when it first started to track down a long sought after record and they were wonderful. The site was pretty empty back then and I stopped visiting but it sounds like they have grown leaps and bounds so I will be back checking it out right away.

[@TooManyRecords]

It will only get better as more people adopt it!

[@nasdisc9163]

Really happy you had a great experience! Hope you come back and check out all the new stuff!

[@cedfan1]

Thanks for posting. Fan of your channel. So fed up with Discogs. Constantly getting incorrect shipping quotes & then sellers telling me it's way more than discogs quoted. Also, rampant gouging from sellers asking insane amounts for shipping. For example, I've seen listings for a $20 album with a $80 (or more) shipping fee. FOR ONE RECORD !!! Greedy greedy, greedy.

[@cedfan1]

I just checked. Unfortunately, Nasdisc is only available in the U.S. at the moment. Sad 🐼

[@Ripper77pep]

Matt you failed to mention NasDisc is only serving US at this time. Us Canadians are left in the cold at the moment. LOL!!!!

[@griffinslack741]

Wow that recommended purchase option is like a dream come true

[@TooManyRecords]

Literally!

[@nasdisc9163]

Glad to hear you like it!

[@machiel5888]

It hurts to see a $15 record going for 50 euros or more on discogs, because shipping costs have destroyed the ability to get record from abroad. I see LPs that are 19.99 at Target being put up for 3x that and it makes collecting on a budget a nightmare. I've had my experiences with scammers on Discogs too.

[@WakandaSykes]

Canadians eagerly await Nasdisc

[@dagforster7627]

As a frustrated Discogs seller I would love to use Nasdisc but it doesn't seem to be a very good marketplace for the records I've got - pre-CD Era rock (mostly psych/prog) and all kinds of pre-1995 jazz. It looks great if you're selling contemporary music... EDIT: I'm gonna send a link to this video to Discogs' seller/customer support, although I'm not sure anyone is there. Discogs seems like it's been on autopilot for years.

[@TooManyRecords]

It would get more diverse if more people jumped on board. That's the catch 22.

[@dagforster7627]

@@TooManyRecords Unfortunately I think there might be a generational thing keeping that from happening, Nasdisc skews young, Discogs older. I source most of my inventory from estate sales and my GF and I joke that if we had a physical store we'd call it "Dead Boomers' Records".

[@waldzz]

I think the perpetual returns might be a slippery slope. I have not read up on the details but is the slice of inflation going to the label or direct to the artists themselves? I feel without transparency and accountability it will just be a way for labels to siphon more money from the community/artists

[@TooManyRecords]

As I've said in other comments, that's a worst case scenario lens that there's no reason to think will happen. As of now, the 10% fee that the site charges (7% and 3%) goes towards the artist, so they're basically just taking the fee and giving it to the artist. That scales based on the aftermarket prices that something sells for, which the platform isn't responsible for.

[@waldzz]

@@TooManyRecords apologies for the redundancy, scrolled for a little while without seeing mention. Thank you for the clarification!

[@dylanbrinkley636]

I'm not sure how I feel about the perpetual returns thing. For one thing I feel like it could be very easily abused. You already have some labels charging a premium because they know a release will sell well on the aftermarket. I feel if they're also getting a cut of those aftermarket prices too it would just incentivise labels to gamble on the aftermarket themselves and thus the prices of records getting even more out of hand. Then you'll have labels charging more because it'll be in their interest for it to sell well on the aftermarket, and as a result those aftermarket prices will also go up. I do agree it's super shitty when someone can sell an artist work for 10 times more than the artist made off the first sale, but it does feel like something that can and will be exploited by a label getting too greedy and starting a domino effect. Or maybe I'm just doomsday preaching, who knows.

[@TooManyRecords]

I think it's a bit doomsday preaching, like you said. Until these things start to happen as a direct result of a program like this, I wouldn't be too concerned. Prices are creeping up regardless.

[@lukejohnston5993]

Perpetual returns is silly honestly. Physical media is a one-off license to play the media from the physical thing until it wears out (and not copy it). The Artist gets way more than they do from several streams. When the owner sells it, they obviously can’t play it anymore. It’s like saying ancient companies should get a cut when antiques are sold.

[@TheAgeOfAnalog]

Discogs needs a serious commitment to improving their site. There's pretty much no way any other site, current or future, is going to compete with their extensive, basically crowd sourced database.

[@Pluralofvinylisvinyls]

The Discogs alert system is ridiculous. I don’t even look anymore. How the hell do I set it to where I don’t get alerts that a record I want popped up for sale in some random ass country???? And just because I have a reissue in my want list, doesn’t mean I want an alert for it, since it’s not a hard record to find! Honestly, if they Discogs just fixed a few issues, I’d be content with them

[@TooManyRecords]

Nasdisc has all those fixes, it just needs the userbase. A revolution starts with one person!!

[@TheAgeOfAnalog]

They've proven to be incredibly non-interested in user feedback.

[@Pluralofvinylisvinyls]

I bet it’s good but that user base is like 80% of what makes Discogs good. This is the first I’m hearing about it but record collectors are fanatical enough that maybe it’ll catch on quick and Discogs could be MySpace in a couple years

[@Pluralofvinylisvinyls]

They don’t listen because they’re not struggling. If their revenue began to tank, they’ll start listening. “Hey Discogs users, we now have photos!”

[@XxLiveMusicxX]

The trivial things you mentioned NASDISC was good at could be implemented better/quicker and more efficiently on discogs within a day if discogs cared about those features. NASDISC is the desperate website begging people to come look at them when they offer NOTHING. Absolutely nothing. Its never going to replace the OGs and by splitting the community its actually doing us all a disservice by existing.

[@TooManyRecords]

I completely disagree with this line of thinking. Discogs has had a decade to get their crap together and it hasn't happened. Disruption happens in all industries by a company that is willing to go above and beyond and solve the needs of the people, something Discogs has barely, if at all, made stides in doing.

[@matieking]

Sounds cool! How is their coverage in Europe?

[@nasdisc9163]

We're expanding internationally soon (within the next month) we're just working out a few of the bugs before announcing publicly! Stay tuned!

[@omelet-du-fromage9293]

@@nasdisc9163 so happy to hear this!

[@bluflam1ngo]

5:43 Unfortunately not in the UK. But looking forward to using the website. Thanks Matt. 👍

[@Goosee9]

I've signed up, but it DEFINITELY doesn't have all the variants listed that discogs does.

[@Goosee9]

Also, no way to contact the seller to ask a question. They've got some serious work to do.

[@trevdogg45]

I subscribed soon as you said Conway the machine lol my guy

[@MattCupan]

Discogs still king. As you stated, monopoly. Imean there have been countless times people bash eBay. If Discogs went back to their own proprietary payment, and left PayPal I think it would solve any issues I personally have with Discogs. But ya, if you buy/sell vinyl, you are at the mercy of dealing with Discogs.

[@Henry-lq6rt]

It’s a good idea to have multiple sources of income when selling records. What top 3 sites would you recommend ?

[@themarccox]

iOS app only? And we complain about discogs being outdated...

[@johng.4711]

I have a feeling that most people using Discogs aren’t buyers. I just use it to catalog and generate a number for homeowners insurance. Discogs is a dinosaur for this too, sadly.

[@kingofsnake2000]

The biggest problem with all these non discog alternatives is the US focus. As someone who lives in the UK and with our massive shipping fees atm importing isn't worth doing so until they can get a range of releases from local sellers sadly discogs is the only real game in town

[@henrys3629]

Most of the items I want are overseas. I can't be helped. I really want records with OG sleeve and no generic, but some sellers don't understand that. I'm one of those guys with Ikea type shelves that want to display their goods. Is that so wrong? Also I found so far nothing on my list, but if I start requesting certain things, I'll be in debt up to my eyeballs.

[@djb61]

So your saying if I buy any physical product in life and I hold on to it and that product goes up in value, which I then decide to sell, that the company (artist, etc) should be able to get royalties. As an artist myself I don't think that's a good road to go down it's a physical product and should not be the worry of a company, artist, etc. If a company and or artist are so concerned then they should take the risk and make more product. You can use that same theory with buying a shirt and selling/donating to a second hand store and they sell it and the original shirt company gets a cut, makes no sense. That sounds like a greedy company, artist, etc.. Also I checked out Nasdisc after your video. I think Discogs is by far a better platform, although like any platform they have things they can work on. As a Vinyl collector myself I'm always on the hunt for it, but honestly don't think Nasdisc will appeal to me (needs to be simplified). I do appreciate your videos showing people other avenues for Vinyl collecting, but this one just came off like a sponsored video.

[@TooManyRecords]

It's a cool program that some artists can participate in if they want. There's literally no downside to you, as the buyer or seller, so why have a negative opinion about it lol Nasdisc is extremely simplified, what confuses you about it?

[@freakmag99]

If they implement AI to recognize variants me and many other people who work in record stores (and make them what they are) will find ourselves out of a job. Just something to consider. In that way, I'm glad Discogs has so many issues. lol

[@mercurialmagictrees]

4:40 That is fascinating. I was hoping that it would be a similar method as crates. If there is enough people to pledge a certain amount there would be a repress scheduled. However I do like how the artist can receive more royalties if the demand for a pressing outnumbers the currnent availability.

[@noxiouglint]

Perpetual returns is dumb in my opinion. If the artist wanted to drive price down just release the record. They know they’re putting a limited product out there to sell out. That’s why it sells out fast because they sell exclusivity with every record. Instead why not re release if the artist actually wanted money. And to your point saying it’s coming from the platforms money I’m sure that’s wrong. It will come out of the seller/buyers just an extra tax. Everyone wants exclusivity until they miss out.

[@TooManyRecords]

Everything about this comment is wrong 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@Timmy2tone4242]

Of course they are going to offer that and it’s not going to come out of their pocket, it will be coming out of the seller/buyer when the fees are higher so that the artist can get their 2nd cut of the sale.

[@TooManyRecords]

The fees are lower than Discogs and Ebay...

[@Timmy2tone4242]

@@TooManyRecords so when a record sells for $1000 who’s gonna be taking the loss? I’m sure it’s a % of sale so how will that work for those who are and aren’t taking part of this program.

[@Timmy2tone4242]

@@TooManyRecords if they actually take it out of their portion of the fees then that is pretty sweet.

[@TooManyRecords]

@@Timmy2tone4242 it’s out of the fees, so yeah. It’s awesome.

[@terridactyl5152]

Seems sweet, unfortunately none of the records Im looking for were on there. 😢

[@TooManyRecords]

… yet!

[@terridactyl5152]

@@TooManyRecords hopefully.

[@markfoster4332]

Couldn't find an app for Nasdisc. Are they not doing one?

[@TooManyRecords]

It's in the iOS store right now, not sure about Android yet.

[@Exmachinagamma]

I'm on Android I don't see it.

[@TooManyRecords]

@@Exmachinagamma not on android yet.

[@zzzandy]

​@@TooManyRecords 😢

[@1byte4]

Perpetual returns sounds like another tax, artist already continue to earn, it's called streaming and digital downloads.

[@peterwithabeard]

I remember you promoting Reverb a lot a few years agoand that collapsed. I dont see how anyone will compete or.beat discogs or ebay really. Theyre not perfect, but its asgood as itll get. The idea of influencers on there annoys me.

[@TooManyRecords]

ReverbLP was amazing. It only collapsed because Etsy bought Reverb and took ReverbLP down for some strange reason.

[@StuntrockConfusion]

@@TooManyRecords I never got a single record from Reverb, and I tried, hard!

[@mattstoned80]

Nasdisc is us only?

[@TooManyRecords]

For now, but they're going to be expanding from what I hear.

[@nasdisc9163]

We’ll start rolling out international support in the coming months!

[@mattstoned80]

@@nasdisc9163 awesome

[@andrewkatai521]

Perpetual returns, no chance! That's a big scam ! So the artist is going to get money even on second hand sales ? Ridiculous idea !

[@TooManyRecords]

It takes $0 out of your pocket as a seller or a buyer so why in the world are you all up in arms?

[@curtisl5150]

Perpetual return is dumb.The artist already made their money.

[@SameOleBS]

Discogs needs to absorb Nasdisc and let their team go wild.

[@cradio52]

I have so many alerts/bids/whatever set up on Nasfisc but it sucks that the user base is still so small… I’ve literally never gotten a notification from it. Idk what they can do to pry people away from Discogs

[@BrianKennelly]

Nasdisc is almost useless for me, because it is just too hard to filter search results or browse by anything but artist or title. Discogs has a much more powerful search.