We Discovered Dark Oxygen In Our Oceans - The Controversy Explained

[@TwoBitDaVinci]

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[@mauimixer6040]

Your lust for batteries is destroying the body we depend on, Earth. If you're seriously not aware of all the repressed Energy devices in engines that run on water, then you have a lot to learn. We are in a electromagnetic world. Good luck, maybe they should mine in your backyard ? Don't worry, it SHOULD be ok and your waters find , for your children too. Just saying. That's the argument I have heard.

[@BCzepa]

why was my comment deleted? because it presents information which goes against your narrative?

[@bobthegoat7090]

I think you meant antimatter at the start not dark matter as that is not the opposite of matter as I am sure you know. Other than that small mistake it was a great video.

[@BobFirth]

Obviously the review of areas stripped mined 4 years ago showing that those areas were dead and did not renew tells us all we need to know. THIS IS A BAD IDEA. This is not a renewable resource. Battery technology is evolving, and we very much might not need these minerals in the long run anyway. We have done enough destroying much of our land, do we need to do the same to our oceans? We have already over fished the oceans as it is. Let's save at least one part of our earth from corporate greed.

[@HullioGQ]

Well, in this case if we destroy this resource we could actually annihilate ourselves instead.

[@EC-dz4bq]

@@HullioGQ unless they figure out how to make them artificially

[@FLPhotoCatcher]

@@HullioGQ I don't think that O2 is the limiting factor in the deep ocean. It's probably that the sand left over is not a good foundation for corals and other life. *It still needs lots of careful studies,* but just replacing some of the taken nodules with common river rock may be good enough to restore the habitat for the life down there.

[@kalaiolele8796]

I hear ya' @BobFirth !! That's the same thing I thought when he said that.

[@sangouda1645]

40 years ago not 4...

[@jakewallace5591]

Fell in love with the thought of undersea mining as a child when i saw the movie The Abyss, which lead to learning more about the life at the bottom of the ocean...40 years later, im like "hey! the ocean is acting weird, and hungry, can we just leave it alone, its been asking politely for a while now, i think its about to spin our block in biblical proportions!"

[@julius43461]

Haha exactly how I feel

[@CyrusMystery]

Good news you don't have to worry!!! The bottom of the ocean doesn't get hungry or have a thought process. Plants and fish at the bottom of the ocean do but a. What are they gonna do to us? Come to the surface and get messed up by pressure? And b. The ocean isn't an entity/life form or God

[@protorhinocerator142]

One more indication that we're heading into the End Times.

[@babybirdhome]

@@CyrusMystery Those things may be true, but without it, humanity ceases to exist. It’s got nothing to do with anthropomorphising the ocean and everything to do with the fact that we’d like to still be alive in the decades to come.

[@melanieforyou]

@@CyrusMystery If the oceans die, we die- Paul Watson

[@MinusMedley]

Many don't know that the most of the oxygen we breathe, comes from the ocean, not trees.

[@CandyThePuppy]

@@MinusMedley most of that's from melting icebergs feeding special organisms though, right?

[@Unmannedair]

​@@CandyThePuppy no, most of that is from silt that's washed into the ocean feeding diatoms. The diatoms release oxygen as a part of making their glass shell.

[@gusty7153]

@@CandyThePuppy algae and other microorganisms that photosynthesize

[@mnomadvfx]

Considering the ocean is acidifying more every year due to various chemicals we are pumping into the air and CO2 levels falling to the ocean as carbonic acid that is not a comforting fact.

[@CandyThePuppy]

@@gusty7153 yehhhh I almost said algae but was worried I might get it wrong 😅

[@ryanellison4884]

"deep sea mining is the eco friendly solution" LOL heard it all now.

[@jeffhiggins808]

There’s virtually unlimited energy trapped in methane hydrates in the ocean floor. Mining it would completely destroy the oceans.

[@davidryke113]

​@jeffhiggins808 Nobody cares in real life. Electrics cars. Wind turbines. Absorbing cow farts are all just other opportunities to make money at th3 expense of something or someone else. This is just another one of those things.

[@dkbros1592]

Yes it is

[@TranBaDat12345]

well, fun.

[@XGD5layer]

1989 they did a mining simulation and when they returned in 2005 no life had returned

[@mikemorton954]

If rocks like these exist on other planets with water, then they could be many planets with an oxygen atmosphere.

[@claudiaroy9455]

🧐🤔

[@rogermartinez78]

Bingo!

[@MichaelWinter-ss6lx]

That is not limited to planets! We have several moons and even asteroids with oceans in our solar system.

[@mikemorton954]

@@MichaelWinter-ss6lx An excellent point!

[@AshtonCoolman]

Absolutely right! If this is relatively standard geology, then our galaxy could be populated with many worlds that would be friendlier to Earth life than Mars and Venus. This is exciting!

[@steventaylor4159]

I feel like putting effort into sodium ion batteries would be better for the world.

[@adam-g7crq]

Agree👍

[@retiredrebel]

Especially when utilizing waste brine from desalination water treatment plants

[@jonathanszuch3557]

Yes but they are much bigger. So for EVs you would have a much lower range. Great for solar farms, ESS tech has a shipping crate type design worth looking into .

[@Drunk3nMas7er]

They're already on the market and have dropped the price of the lithium cells.

[@steventaylor4159]

@@retiredrebel Yeah that's what I thought to instead of pumping it into the ocean and having dead zones because of it.

[@stanleywilliams4429]

I guess that there’s a lot we don’t know about what it takes to live on this planet. For breathable oxygen to find its way to the atmosphere without photosynthesis is indeed miraculous. But it’s a miracle that’s sustained life on Earth for billions of years.

[@vulcan4d]

I hope we don't suck another resource dry. Everything has it's place. Work with nature, don't extort nature.

[@renee1741]

Obviously we should leave them alone and study how they work. Then learn how to replicate the process. But the people with money will destroy everything bc money is the only thing that matters right?

[@jimmurphy5355]

Missing in this discussion is a crucial point: these natural batteries are primary cells. As the metals in them react with the seawater to produce metal salts, they are consumed. The amount of oxygen they can produce is very finite. When the battery is worn out, the production stops. The fact that the metalic modules exist at all implies that any reaction that is taking place is extremely slow - which means that the amount of O2 produced is also very low. I don't see how the nodules could exist and persist over geologic time scales, and also be splitting water at a significant rate - unless there is some process that makes new modules. The other thing I wish the scientists had checked: If electrolysis is happening, H2 should be produced in twice the quantity that oxygen is produced. That should be easy to detect.

[@jordanhildebrandt3705]

unless the metal is a catalyst

[@jimmurphy5355]

@@jordanhildebrandt3705 Catalysts can speed up a reaction, but catalysts cannot, by themselves, cause a reaction to take place if that reaction needs an energy input. If the metals in the nodules are acting as a catalyst to split water, there has to be some substantial energy input from some other source to drive the reaction.

[@jordanhildebrandt3705]

@@jimmurphy5355 True. But catalysts can lower the activation energy to the point that a reaction can take place in circumstances where it otherwise wouldn't. It just didn't seem very clear from the video what is actually going on chemically. If the conditions you specified are true, then your conclusion about geologic time is inescapable, and these nodules, therefore, are unlikely to be foundational to any ecosystem. I am just trying to think of any possible alternatives to your conditions / assumptions, which might change the significance of these very wet rocks.

[@magnemoe1]

This, uncles we farm 10% of the ocean of them like we do on the surface I don't see much of an issue. Sure this is interesting but earth did not have much oxygen before 500 million years ago 50-100 million year later as in you would die. Mostly because all the iron turned into rust before we got an oxygen atmosphere.

[@donovanjones4175]

Uh, yeah, what he said

[@YoniBaruch-y3m]

Wait, huh? Sounds like someone in the first sentence has confused dark matter with antimatter.

[@Husky_Passion]

and if you remove those rocks it won't affect the environnement where it was for billions of years ?

[@juliefall2892]

Right , let's just meddle with everything , SMH

[@OneWildTurkey]

If they were there for billions of years, why are they on top of all the silt?

[@jakewallace5591]

@@OneWildTurkey i have no professional experience with this subject matter, but my guess would be that interacting with with the rocks next to them could create some sort of resonance, or vibration, that somehow keeps the larger pieces moved to the surface, or maybe they are less dense than sediment...like i said, no experience, all speculation, and only enough time spent on thought to compose this comment...

[@user-zw5jj2uf1p]

Definitely not billions of years. A couple million max. Tectonic plates shift and animals move habitats and evolve

[@CandyThePuppy]

​@@OneWildTurkey maybe they scare all the silt away with their aura?

[@michaelginever732]

We should proceed very cautiously.

[@CaptainDickGs]

Bahahaha Have we ever been able to do that? No!

[@rogermartinez78]

We should not proceed at all, we need to stop exploiting the planet for profit!

[@Mr.FuzzyDingo]

That's the opposite of the American capitalist way grasshopper 🤣

[@ConcreteLand]

Always should, never do. 🤦‍♂️

[@12jalbrandao]

Did these guys really take 10 years recalibrating equipment to do this discovery?? That is pretty amazing

[@zatar123]

Expect massive PR campaigns downplaying the importance of these rocks, while illegal operations are grabbing up as much of them as they can before laws protecting the environment even get a chance at being passed.

[@tk423b]

My mineralogy professor used to work on this in the 70s.

[@tk423b]

Mining aspects of it

[@OuroBoros_Games]

It nust be hard measure this in the deep of the sea.

[@dodang_9147]

so why this is so significant is space travel. If we can find a way to produce Oxygen from nothing, we can put oxygen water tanks in spaceships and have an unlimited supply of oxygen. So if anyone does figure out how to produce Dark Oxygen, it is one the core components to sustain life in space.

[@ab3000x]

Lithium Iron Phosphate batteries require zero cobalt or nickel. Sodium Ion batteries require zero lithium. What we use for batteries now will not be what we use for batteries in the future. There’s no need to dig up minerals that’ll be obsolete soon even if they weren’t so deep. Also, it makes sense that the minerals we use in manmade batteries are conducting electrolysis all on their own. Fascinating.

[@mikemorton954]

Now we know what happened to planet Spaceballs.

[@lukebable]

Only because the planet was run by assholes !

[@gjkrisa]

7:36 deep see mining of the material making dark oxygen won’t harm the ocean. that’s exactly what the people that are wanting to make money from this want us to think

[@funkizer]

Dark matter isn't the opposite of normal matter either. It's just something that we don't know what it is, but we know it's there because galaxies should spin slower than they do.

[@djcfrompt]

Good catch - they seem to have confused dark matter and antimatter.

[@DavidA-b1f]

Love this channel! Keep up the good work! 😊

[@Flatballflyer]

I look forward to you following this research, The oxygen is very interesting and deserves more research, because we really need to understand this mystery before industry invades the space. It seems to me a little suspicious that we have a natural “battery “that is doing work to separate oxygen from hydrogen with no apparent energy input. It sounds a lot like free energy, but maybe there is a chemical reaction taking place. When I combine that with your sponsors and their goals, it really makes me suspicious, but I know that you’ll follow this research and I look forward to hearing more about it.

[@ScruffR70]

0:05 no, that "anti-analogy" is flawed, too. _"dark matter"_ is also not the opposite of (normal) _"matter"_ - that would be _"anti-matter"_

[@ph5915]

A big NO about harming the natural environment! Sheesh! We are the only species that doesn't live within our natural ecosystem. One of these days, most likely over greed/wealth, we are gonna run into a HUGE "oh-oh!"

[@robotnikkkk001]

...WHY NOBODY IS TALKING ABOUT *_THIS IS A FRAUD_* ??BECAUSE *ELECTROLYSIS OF SEAWATER TURNS SALT INTO BLEACH!!!* ...SO OBVIOUSLY THERES NO SIGNS OF BLEACH SO I DONT KNOW WHAT THESE "SCIENTISTS" ACTUALLY DISCOVERED.....INSTEAD OF OWN INCOMPITENCY.....

[@douglasalfseike3867]

@@ph5915 right on!

[@CNC-Time-Lapse]

Man's destruction of the environment is so short sighted. Instead of focusing on improving our own habits and lifestyle choices (simplifying our lives and focusing less on ourselves and more on others), we focus on selfish pursuits and perpetuating instant gratification at the cost of our future.

[@juliefall2892]

Profits over commonsense smh

[@renee1741]

It seems most people are not in favor of destroying the earth. So why do we let it happen?

[@AlbertaGeek]

@@renee1741 We don't "let it" so much as we are helpless to stop it. Corporations will continue to do as they please because of greedy politicians who have been paid to care more about profits than people.

[@neilshahndynasty.8882]

your wrong , but opinionated!

[@AlbertaGeek]

@@neilshahndynasty.8882 *(A)* *you're *(B)* Talk is cheap. Exactly what did the OP get wrong?

[@j.d.4697]

But who needs oxgen when you can have smartphones that last longer?

[@vibeymonk]

Lol future dystopian marketing is going to be like that, you get cheaper and more powerful computers but your pay more and more every year for oxygen

[@agustinpizarro]

@@j.d.4697 What about smartphones that produce oxygen! 😁 It almost always facing your head... so it should blow oxygen to you as well.

[@bernicemarie7243]

Oh no they just removed all those rocks without knowing its effect on the ocean habitat or system... What if it was a keystone thing?😬

[@boulderbash19700209]

What is "keystone thing"?

[@cynicsyndrom]

Halo reference

[@gabrieldinix]

@@cynicsyndrom ? No, Keystone species are a real world thing. It's a thing that if removed from an ecosystem can have dramatic impacts on all the life within that same ecosystem, even if comparatively of a small scale or quantity in that ecosystem. An example are top predators, they're not the majority species of an ecosystem, but once removed, the balance goes off and the population of prey increases too much, in turn causing a chain reaction of bad things

[@gabrieldinix]

​@@boulderbash19700209 explained on my comment above. For more info, search up "keystone species"

[@MickH60]

What happened if you lived on Mars for 10 years, and half way through that 10 years we popped over for a visit and there was still no sign of intelligent life ? You were ok though......

[@vgernyc]

Hmmmm....the ability to breathe or to have a shiny EV and phone I throw out every couple years? Decisions

[@HammerOn-bu7gx]

If it's electrolysis, they should be checking for Hydrogen as well.

[@barneyklingenberg4078]

Not all element absolve the same in water. And if it doest absolve the light hydrogen atoms just escape the ocean. That said you’d expect to see some bubbles.

[@robotnikkkk001]

...WHY NOBODY IS TALKING ABOUT *_THIS IS A FRAUD_* ??BECAUSE *ELECTROLYSIS OF SEAWATER TURNS SALT INTO BLEACH!!!* ...SO OBVIOUSLY THERES NO SIGNS OF BLEACH SO I DONT KNOW WHAT THESE "SCIENTISTS" ACTUALLY DISCOVERED.....INSTEAD OF OWN INCOMPITENCY.....

[@paintballercali]

Dark matter is also not the opposite of matter

[@glennllewellyn7369]

Yeah, let it grow and then do a fun colab with Simon!

[@brianschwarm8267]

Say no to deep sea mining, it’s just more billionaires trying to turn a healthy environment into a money. I know we are desperate for minerals and resources, but we have to have standards that out environment first.

[@jonathanszuch3557]

😂 look at how minerals are mined now. Google cobalt mines congo or nickel run

[@davidryke113]

@@brianschwarm8267 What if I told you nobody really cares about the environment. At least not the people in charge.

[@Maximiliano896]

@@davidryke113 so we should just sit quietly and let it happen?

[@dkbros1592]

@@brianschwarm8267 no deep sea mining is important

[@brianschwarm8267]

@@dkbros1592 you’re right, adhering to no deep sea mining is important. It chokes out life and ruins ecosystems, the effects on the food chain will be felt from top to bottom. A healthy ocean is essential for a healthy planet.

[@curtistolman5830]

Most of the rocks on earth are mostly oxygen. That's where we get comet tails, to adjust to the changing electric environment silicon dioxide must shed the oxygen atoms to loose negative charge. That's why comet tails are so long without dissipating, the tails have no dust, just negative electrons. The sun is like the positive pole of a battery and the heleosphere is like the negative pole, when a comet gets closer to the sun it moves into an area of more positive charge. Earth has a surface change of 100 volts per square meter.

[@beachcrow]

Early comment to feed the algorithm.

[@dandantheideasman]

Grwat coverage of this Ricky and love your work. Have been considering a way to propose a look in more detail at the Oxygen Cycle to whomever who would listen and this revelation was like a eurika moment for me. I feel we simply do not understand how much Oxygen plays a role in our most pressing of issues at the moment, the rising global temperatures. Soam putting in the space to start a conversation. Keep up the amazing work you do. Kudos 💪

[@michaelbyrd499]

I would be interested in a segment about the production of hydrogen from the ocean.

[@mariebaxter473]

So would i, if its splitting correct, then there are 2 hydrogen atoms to every oxygen atoms produced , ( No mention of what effect that is doing ?)

[@michaelbyrd499]

@@mariebaxter473 I do not think it would harm the ocean environment. In all cases, the use of hydrogen as a fuel results in water vapor as a byproduct. This will eventually return to the ocean.

[@djcfrompt]

​@michaelbyrd499 if you remove substantial amounts of water from an aquatic environment you increase the concentration of dissolved materials dramatically, which can be deleterious to the health of the ecosystem near your production plant. This is a concern with seawater desalination and an ongoing problem at the Great Salt Lake as its water levels sit well below historic levels.

[@preciousplasticph]

When iron oxide (Fe₂O₃) reacts with seawater, a few possible chemical reactions can occur depending on the specific conditions (e.g., temperature, pressure, and presence of other ions). One common reaction involves the formation of iron hydroxide and chloride compounds. Here's a simplified reaction: \[ \text{Fe}_2\text{O}_3 + 6\text{H}_2\text{O} + 6\text{Cl}^- ightarrow 2\text{Fe(OH)}_3 + 6\text{Cl}^- \] In seawater, the chloride ions (Cl⁻) from the dissolved salts can facilitate the formation of iron hydroxides. Over time, the iron hydroxides can convert to more stable forms like goethite (FeO(OH)) or magnetite (Fe₃O₄). The reaction can be more complex due to the presence of various other ions in seawater, such as magnesium, calcium, and sulfate, which might also interact with iron oxides.

[@MarcoHernandez-nb5dc]

This changes everything!!

[@xiaoka]

Oh no, not another ‘change everything!’ title… 😂

[@mahbubhossainsamm]

😅

[@mahbubhossainsamm]

And again I bought it 😅

[@photon434]

I usually ignore click bate captions, but I 2 bit is legit.

[@katherandefy]

Because you might be trolling

[@Southghost5997]

​@@photon434he's not

[@jamesdubben3687]

Thanks for bringing on Helen

[@chomiak100]

Interesting video. Hopefully you can provide updates on progress. Capturing hydrogen in the process is also very interesting prospects. Thanks

[@TwoBitDaVinci]

we'll definitely follow up if there's some new news...

[@adamlowe1072]

The algae's and planktons of the sea evolved to photosynthesize long before life appeared on land. They oxygenated the water and allowed the iron in the sea to precipitate out making the iron ores we mine today. But that process made it so that life could be more complex in the sea before moving to land.

[@AndrewKuntzman]

Unreal the ocean has so much we haven’t even explored

[@mikebarkhouse6669]

Why can’t we understand that everything we take advantage of is connected, and repercussions that we can’t control and tend to chase will hurt us in the long run…

[@G4ming_OG]

I hope they don’t destroy our beautiful oceans

[@CaptainDickGs]

They will!!!

[@codyjones746]

This sounds really interesting. Is it possible to take one rock, study it's compounds, and then try to make more of it with a combination of other ingredients? Either that or move the rocks closer to the shore to be able to harness some of the energy they make? It could also be helpful to study where there is a lack of oxygen in the ocean and use that area as a testing grounds to see if we can copy the functions of this rock? I would love to hear more of what you learn about these studies. Thank you for putting in the effort to make this video.

[@adamtyson1463]

Great! Thank you.

[@th3blackthorn804]

I do not usually get to worked up about environmental problems. Adapt or die, but this scares the shit out of me.

[@offroadr]

I do not understand one thing. The way batteries work is by changing their chemistry. They go from one state to another, gaining entropy. How could these nodules be effectively producing enough electricity for millennia to still be able to rip apart water? The only thing that would make sense to me is if it was a catalyst. In which case understanding it could give us a path inexpensive truly green hydrogen. Bot by placing bubble catchers, but by replicating the mechanism on land in a controlled environment. That said, breaking of water decreases entropy, this means something else must be increasing in entropy to allow it. Something just just not right about this.

[@jimmurphy5355]

That was my first thought as well. Splitting water takes substantial energy. It the nodules are acting as batteries, splitting water a detectable rate would soon consume all the reacive metals into salts of one kind or another. Chlorides are the obvious result, since the water is full of sodium chloride.

[@Anastasio777]

Good documentary!

[@florin2tube]

Another great video! 😊

[@hippie-io7225]

One solution is to continue research on batteries that use common and easily available elements.

[@zutai1]

more testing needs to be done, to see how much you can mitigate the issues. i wonder about using lights on the sea floor that has been damaged, to try grow seaweeds down there. if the issue is light not pressure, we can up the o2 in the areas, while mining them all out. as long as there is no other issues found with deep sea seaweeds, that is :P

[@jvlbme]

Wait - current thinking is we have to _mine_ this, as opposed to manufacture it? 🙄

[@ΘάνατοςΧορτοφάγος]

Manufacture it with which materials... they want to mine it for the materials, not for its function

[@jvlbme]

@@ΘάνατοςΧορτοφάγος So it contains completely new materials, previously not on the table of elements?

[@kirknay]

​@@jvlbme The problem is that these materials are fairly rare on continental crust, making manufacturing anything with these materials expensive.

[@OuroBoros_Games]

​@@jvlbmetable elements are not all elements, i think it was something to do by how they are composed it make them pure elements. But we have many more other materials in the universe, like plastic.

[@GunF0x]

I believe you're mistaking molecules and the periodic table of elements. I believe this would be considered a compound.

[@wisdomleader85]

Why do I get a feeling that money/profit will triumph over the environment, and we'll opt for extraction of the minerals then throw all life forms under the bus in the end? 😂

[@WILLIAMMALO-kv5gz]

I like your ethics. Thanks.

[@nevergiveup-db6fp]

I was recently scuba diving in the Philippines, and came across a place at about 60 feet deep millions of bubbles were coming up from the sand. It looked like I was inside of a glass of champagne.

[@Video2Webb]

What do the locals say about this phenomenon? Surely they know about it.

[@valiantecuasion5310]

Businessman says "This is a great business potential. Let's mine and destroy the ocean."

[@pittyman]

5:45 so, the aliens were throwing away their li-ion batteries on the bottom of the ocean and now we can use them to build our own li-ion batteries?!?😳, 😬🤪🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@STEVEARABIA1]

These nodules can’t just produce oxygen endlessly. There has to be a metallic component that is being oxidized to produce the voltage to then electrolyze the water. Why not cover this aspect? This video is missing a huge portion of information. These nodules must therefore be geologically recent otherwise you’ve found perpetual energy.

[@saik9980]

So spliting hydrogen and oxygen is more easy through catalytic convertion synthisizing the same metal nodules

[@johndorian2670]

The most troubling part of this story is that a big part of the research was funded by a mining company and that they are now using their in-house scientists to try and discredit the research so they can make money mining those metals.

[@julius43461]

Yup, and like always, they will have it their way.

[@EmilyJelassi]

Fascinating video!! 😮😊❤ She's right, we really, Really need to do WAY more ocean research. .. there's so much down there that we don't know! Protect the nodules before someone steals them for selfish reasons!! 😮😮

[@bobthegoat7090]

0:00 Dark matter is not the opposite of matter. Antimatter is the true opposite of matter. Dark matter, on the other hand, does not interact with light in the same way as ordinary matter. Dark matter does not emit, absorb, or reflect light. The only interaction dark matter has with light is through gravity, such as in the case of gravitational lensing.

[@wesleypulkka7447]

Great episode!

[@MRDUALITY]

Its beautiful to know the water cycle which we have known about for some time has an additional step of hydrolisis in the deep sea noone knew about.

[@geauxracerx]

9:28 it’s only less environmentally destructive, because you can’t see it with your naked eyes

[@jeffscott5133]

Please do a video on the possibility of harvesting the hydrogen produced by this natural electrolysis. I am quite curious. Thank you for this video.

[@seanc6754]

Scientists : Greati.. another source of oxygen! Exxon: Hold my beer

[@Janer-52]

I've known of these nodules for many, many years. Now that we know the havoc harvesting them can create, we must be careful. There are also "black smokers" in the ocean. Could these be used to harvest energy and some minerals instead?

[@tibomoltini2851]

every time we find something , it ends in devastation

[@TranBaDat12345]

yessir

[@BrentHasty]

Error on the side of life not things. We have other options to harvest minerals It looks like we better perfect mining the astroid belt!

[@louislesch3878]

It makes sense that there should be a natural oxygen generation mechanism on the ocean floor. I could also see this region being completely stripped in a decade.

[@socratesDude]

Another amazing solution to a problem with Twilightzone consequences.

[@MarkBachelder-ie7hi]

Great captions, but is there a way to make them smaller? They cover up half the image.

[@rolanddurr8274]

A lot more research is needed before a good decision is possible, whether to mine the deep ocean or not. How much oxygen is produced? How much is necessary? How bad is the damage of deep ocean mining compared to conventional mining? Compared to the benefits of electric vehicles? Can the damage be reduced or repaired? That is just the questions that come to my mind, surely there are many more.

[@bellofbelmont]

Hard NO! to that process! Jim Bell (Australia)

[@perandersson3977]

This is why astroid mining is so important

[@mybirds2525]

I would suggest that first the research is flawed. Clearly there is a source of oxygen in the deep seas, but there are serious problems with the researdh not finding hydrogen evolving and they are saying it is electrolysis.. Also the formation of these nodules is counter to the claimed process. The source of deep oxygen is actually methane rising in the earth encountering lots of metal oxides. It encounters these metal oxides and releases water and oxygen from polymerization of methane into oil, which rises immediately for the surface. The polymerization reaction here produces (-OH) hydroxyl. This recombines to Oxygen and water. 4(-OH) --> O2 + 2 H2O. The nodules are largely sulfides and carbonates and that is not same chemistry. O2 and H2O diffuse away without much appearance in the sea. The reason you are hearing this nonsense story is that people are trying to stop deep sea mining. I think the issue should stand or fail on it's own merits. We shouldn't be trying to find excuses like this. This is also why mining companyies should not hire "Woke" researchers.

[@12pentaborane]

We literally have unused nickel mines on land. I'm not even talking about starting from greenfield, they are developed mines shutdown because the nickel price went too low one time.

[@gdibble]

🪨 *Super thorough review of the Dark O2 data.* So do we know if any current @NOAA or @NASA satellites 🛰 have the resolution to detect these mineral fields, especially knowing the basic chemical composition [range] in the nodules? _Really love this content and appreciate the production and inclusion of honored guests, so please keep up the great work [and make it a great day!]_ 🙌

[@asmithdev2162]

First thought is whoever manufactures an optimized synthetic version will have a great source of energy

[@dama054]

This is old news have you not seen Robinson Cruiso on mars it's a 1960s film

[@joshuabarr7595]

6:56 Wait can you explain this to me? Are the deep oceans the most powerful engines of life on earth? Or the oxygenation of the deep oceans it’s the most powerful engine of life on earth? What are you asserting here?

[@Raz31337]

These rocks don't make oxygen, tbey split it from water. That's not synthesis, it's just electrolysis

[@kamuroshow4884]

This can only go wrong. Terribly wrong. Don't mine it for stupid batteries. Think twice, not Just profit in the short run. Don't do it.

[@NaumRusomarov]

Plenty of materials already exist in the ground that can be mined using conventional means. There’s no need to destroy the sea floor.

[@unadultratedtrini]

The applications of this technology towards space travel seems important, should hand it over to spaceX and nasa as well

[@joelpowell8189]

Please can you make an episode on Malcolm Bendall’s Thunderstorm Generator, plasmoid technology. It is stupendously important that this knowledge is disseminated to as many of the populace as possible. Great podcast 🎉

[@igavinwood]

For as long as I have lived I have heard that we know more about our immediate space than our deep oceans. There is no clear legislation to protect what we don't understand or know, so it's vital that science in this essential part of the only planet we can survive on, is funded and listened to.

[@FastRiposte]

Mining the deep sea will irrevocably change that area. These changes would not be apparent for decades, allowing other areas to be destroyed. If these regions are the foundation for diverse life , destroying them could result in a cascade of extinctions, that once started cannot be halted. We do not need to ravage every single resource (especially for profit). A permanent ban, backed by laws, (any armed ships, if necessary) must be implemented.

[@OneWildTurkey]

Real question: How effective is a peer review of a new discovery? What do they validate against? Or, is it just to determine how reasonable their hypothesis appears to be?

[@ΘάνατοςΧορτοφάγος]

Peer review will review the data, the calculations used, the methodology, etc.

[@OneWildTurkey]

@@ΘάνατοςΧορτοφάγος So, it's just an agreement that their guesses sound reasonable. Thanks. (edit: I think peer review has been the subject of a lot of false impressions being given.)

[@masterkwiefe]

If they are going to mine it, They should be required to work out the amount of oxygen and life affected and be completely responsible for replacing the volume of oxygen produced with replanting and monitoring arrid/deforested areas along with establishing healthy reefs for life....

[@Zack-dw5op]

We need to get on space mining and leave the oceans alone

[@Chooong7]

Yes! We should just mine the moon

[@user-zu5do6ri6r]

Leave space alone. We don't need ro trash the solar system.

[@12pentaborane]

​@@user-zu5do6ri6r There's no pleasing you people.

[@Ms.Bubblegum-zz1dd]

@@user-zu5do6ri6r i don't think we have the technology for that yet, but when we do, why shouldn't we? just asking since i don't know how we could affect the solar system that much.

[@lalah9481]

Our track record is not great… Couldn’t there be a way to coexists with the needs of the deep? No strip mining!!!

[@TranBaDat12345]

mining mining mining mining

[@ramontbooker5654]

Imagine using this newfound technology to use it to create oxygen for a spaceship to travel long distances

[@LeeHiago]

That's an amazing discovery. Let's just hope the nodules doesn't get explored to the point of shortage and environmental impact.

[@Langkowski]

If we have black smokers that produce energy, and metal nodules that produce oxygen, we have ecosystems that could be completely independent of sunlight.

[@matthuber9936]

Lightning can also split water molecules into hydroxyl and hydroperoxyl radicals - I'm not sure if oxygen molecules are ultimately produced, but considering 8 million lightning strikes per day, on average, I believe lightning may also play a role in the oxygen cycle. Why the oxygen cycle isn't as well studied and understood like other atmospheric gases boggles my mind, but I think there is still a lot to learn!