'We don't see grief': Body language expert on Mica Miller's pastor husband | Banfield

Behavioral analyst Scott Rouse joins NewsNatino's Ashleigh Banfield to analyze the body language of Mica Miller's husband and pastor following the death of Mica. Her disappearance drew national attention and was ruled a suicide after an investigation by the sheriff's office.
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[@tessmoore3762]

You don't have to be a body language expert to know he's a fake. He's not grieved. He's putting on a show.

[@chinesekungfu2031]

I hope they investigate every rumor about him ..what a psychopath and fraud

[@poodle4567]

His voice bothers me

[@chinesekungfu2031]

@@poodle4567 same!

[@xx_Joker_xx]

Yes, this guy sets off all of my alarms when I watch him.

[@HughMadBro]

Did you see the video of him WACKED out of his face & the copy babying him calling him "JP" & giving him water like a child 🤦🏼‍♀️🤦🏼‍♀️🤦🏼‍♀️🤦🏼‍♀️

[@CarolGo16]

Crazymaking. He pushed her to the brink of insanity and got rid of the body, the evidence, via speedy cremation.

[@fitrunner1317]

I can’t imagine sitting there in church listening to him preaching and announce afterwards, “I found out last night my wife passed, she took her own life” and to his mannerisms that lack grief.

[@HeatherRose2023]

Don’t need to be an expert to not see any grief in that guy. Who preaches an entire sermon less than 12 hours after learning of their “beloved” wife’s alleged suicide? A psychopath.

[@DarkerSideOfDawn]

And makes a point to insult her in the process.. master triangulator

[@Bonzi_Buddy]

They were separated.

[@emmas1082]

How do you explain the fact that everything she did in preparation for her death was done without him even being near her? She could have called the police at any time if threatened. He may be a psychopath and crazy, but that does not mean he is guilty of murder.

[@HeatherRose2023]

@@emmas1082 How do you explain her calling the police numerous times to report the stalking and then telling her friends and family that she was not suicidal? He’s guilty. He staged the murder to look like suicide and the evidence proves it. It’s just a matter of time before LE has the ironclad case to arrest him and all others involved in her murder.

[@emmas1082]

@@HeatherRose2023 just because you call the police several times does not mean that you are in imminent danger of death. Maybe there is more evidence that I have not read about, I am going to withhold judgment.

[@Jayrod-t2w]

What kind of preacher does his wife’s funeral? A narcissist! Thats who. Be interesting if we could find out if she wanted cremated if she ever passed away.

[@karenrollins9578]

Christians don’t choose cremation very often at all. The thought of burning doesn’t typically give us happy thoughts. He chose that for her because it’s way cheaper, faster, and it hides evidence. What a slap in the face to Mica to do that to her !

[@boxesbinslidsllc]

She definitely didn't; anytime he made her family choose between not seeing her body and signing papers for her cremation.

[@teresakaczynski8780]

@@boxesbinslidsllchow completely unsuspicious, burning her body to ash and making it impossible to check for gunpowder residue on her hands or entry wound. Crazy how that works.

[@teresakaczynski8780]

lol so much leakage from this guy and such bad acting

[@isaacseo5280]

He's not fooling anyone! even us plebians with untrained eyes can see that he's unremorseful and lacking any sorrow or compassion. Instead, he demonstrates noticeable, Duper's delight.

[@zaram131]

He’s absolutely as fake as can be. It’s so obvious he’s not one bit sad! His tone of voice and the way he announces her death is like he’s announcing the church picnic has been canceled. That’s about the same depth of emotion he has right there.

[@kaptainh5538]

Please stop calling him a Pastor .

[@melodiewood1315]

Pastard

[@RHIdezigned]

​@@melodiewood1315 LMAO 😆🤣 That's so spot on, for real!!

[@starlingswallow]

Exactly.

[@Youreallylooked]

He is a pastor. It is LAUGHABLE to think pastors are some kind of special people… well they are..positions of power especially cults..draw sociopaths and narcissists

[@baldridgeroy]

Well....He is.

[@caseydesocarraz5600]

TELL EM LIKE IT IS SCOTT ROUSE!!! The man! PREACH MY MAN!!! I love it!!! I been waiting on this!!!!

[@annazimmerman864]

I'm so glad Scott Rouse looked into this 💛 Thank you, Scott!

[@debrafirestone861]

She didn’t commit suicide

[@Mayrows]

They found multiple gun casing 🤷‍♀️ she put up a fight . Sooooo proud of her "Y'all, JLR Investigates is live and interviewing Mica's Daddy and sister, and it's so sad. The rangers found shell casings and a round, she was in the water 40 meters away from where the casings were found, Dad found bruises on her arms and defensive wounds on her hands. The rangers even pointed out the water was running the wrong direction for Mica's body to have been found and law enforcement never checked the car for a tracker. They even found a bullet in a tree. Awful...

[@dubyredburndarling6334]

I agree

[@RHIdezigned]

​​@@MayrowsEXACTLY! LE were so slack with it. JP and his attorney are now quiet. Speaks volumes.

[@yarnchickenkim]

I’m curious if any law enforcement are members of his church and if he is “tight” with them.

[@stainedglass8401]

I heard blame not pity..

[@lindawheeler3479]

Malignant narcissist

[@maryoaks3228]

Guilty or not,he definitely comes across off. He distributes an almost underlying sense of giddiness

[@jodi-bethfelton3696]

Thank-you for keeping on this! The truth will prevail.

[@jasond6770]

NIce work Scott and Ashleigh. I appreciate your coverage on Mica.

[@gordonmculloch4904]

If such a horrendous thing happened to someone you loved, you would be overcome with grief.

[@shannanbegley8189]

There is more to this story and I hope it all comes together and exposes the truth. My thoughts and prayers are with Mica’s family 🙏

[@robtop4358]

Hes a con artist , and as fake as they come !!

[@Me-hf4ii]

Chris Watts vibes.

[@oanamunteanu4744]

He resembles also physically to C. Wats 😳🤔 If he wont end up in prison, sooner or later karma will make him Pay 😒 RIP to The victim 😥

[@gertrudesmith9852]

Yessssssss

[@juliaboneafiedpetsitter9690]

He is WORSE than Watts! Very disconnected from reality

[@BiPolarBear128]

he is so restless and fidgety , he cant stand still or keep his hands and body still at all.. comes across as hyperactive to an extreme degree

[@RHIdezigned]

For real! Chris Watts vibes when the CCTV was being shown on his neighbours television system.

[@tanyathompson2396]

He’s on drugs

[@mycatsnameiskaren8253]

​@@tanyathompson2396 yes, he certainly is. He acts like he's on a stimulant of some kind.

[@GemDes-ur1qt]

I bet his "grief muscle" will show up when he realizes he is caught.

[@Sabali88-369]

The body language is more like someone who is hiding guilt, thus the personal projection onto the victim

[@RHIdezigned]

💯 The hand in the pocket says a lot.

[@moregravity033]

​@@RHIdezignedright? Hiding the hand. Very telling.

[@cyndib3587]

His giddy clapping after the playing video of Mica singing was incredibly bizarre!

[@GiGiCherry877]

Scout Rouse & the rest of the Behavioral Panel are AWESOME 👏 👏👏👍😁 thank you for having him on

[@EllieWright-l1u]

keep exposing this monster!

[@Narcshield]

Finally. I was hoping someone would call the behavioral panelists. I posted somewhere. I am using him as an example as well this year for awareness. Agree 100 with this guest . 👀

[@lisastratton5145]

This guy needs to go to prison.

[@raelynnweathers1161]

That investigation was no slam dunk like they want us to think. I hope everyone involved is brought to justice for Mica.

[@annissagraves3076]

YAY!!! ❤ Scott Rouse!!

[@franksinatracovers6280]

Hope her family has the resources to expose this fraud and worse

[@debrafirestone861]

I’ll bet he had something to do with it

[@joshuatahilla2179]

It reminds me of the same behaviour Chris Watts manifested during the news interview when he said he wanted his family back…this Pastor isn’t grieved, he’s relieved.

[@jewel1953]

How dare he share all that personal info. with the congregation especially saying self induced. Horrible. He is trying to justify.

[@SRR0247]

Doesn't take an expert 🙄

[@LoveGodOutloud]

Whoa ..did he say " she needed her medicine but it was hard to get to her" .....wow investigate that

[@SpaceCadet4Jesus]

She didn't need any medicine whatsoever, according to her family. She did not have any mental issues that necessitated medicine. JP had mental issues where he needed medicine and he would force his medicine upon her, she did complain about this.

[@sandyarizona3471]

Did he drive her to un alive herself with emotional abuse? He did have scandalous marital infidelity with other women.

[@tproudboomer5965]

Using the term “unalive” is ridiculous

[@csf7773]

@@tproudboomer5965 True but YT will censor and delete comments if you use other words

[@tproudboomer5965]

@@csf7773 We are truly living in a Orwellian dystopia.

[@ChocoCarmelApple]

Saying he’s running off adrenaline ?… after the death of his wife. Slip up for sure.

[@VeeAmericanEagle]

Idk why it bothers me when he says “my wife”. I mean I know Mica is his wife but it’s disturbing

[@suzannemartin6817]

Yah you’d think he’d say Mica passed away.

[@RunninQHsRock]

Yeah everybody in the church knew her. Completely odd and inappropriate to phrase it that way. Everything is all about him.

[@SpaceCadet4Jesus]

He rarely ever says her name Mica, it's too personal, he wants to keep an emotional distance.

[@PatriciaLuv7]

Why would he call her his wife… The sources reported that he was with another woman … He failed to mention that while telling the congregation that his “ wife” was unwell …. Mentally..

[@zuuumbaaa]

Because he’s extremely self-centered and calling her “my wife” screams ME ME ME…she’s like his object to him.

[@karenmartin4221]

The body language stuff is fascinating.

[@Linda19816]

When my Mother passed away I cried for 3 days straight and I could not control it. I cried until I had no tears left, and I couldn’t even talk because I was overwhelmed with grief. So, it is impossible to lose someone and be this collected. Sorry, I try not to judge but it is estrange.

[@mycatsnameiskaren8253]

Omg, I love Scott Rouse!!! He's amazing. ❤ watching from Pensacola.

[@moregravity033]

I was so devastated at my sister's passing away suddenly that i literally couldnt speak, eat, go to the restroom or get off the couch. I was frozen in place. We all grieve differently, but there is no greif in this man PERIOD.

[@SamStone1964]

He's a toddler masquerading as an adult. Toddlers don't have any ability to understand life and death, hence his inability to grieve.

[@MeanGirlMeanie]

This channel is doing the Lord's work for Mica

[@Smh85]

I REALLY wanted TBP to weigh in on this! Seeing Scott makes me happy!

[@Lexielouwho]

I think he withheld her medicine from her to induce a manic episode so he could further disparage her to everyone because she wanted to leave him. His texts were some of the most disgusting gaslighting I've seen. He may not have pulled the trigger but i think he took her meds as punishment

[@heytam7162]

Nah just heard the latest from the family. After listening I don’t believe for a second Mica did this to herself & either do her family. This was planned imo.

[@SpaceCadet4Jesus]

The family's on video to say that she never had any mental health problems, no medications, she was perfectly healthy and very happy.....til everything went downhill after she married JP. No videos where she appears show any signs of mental health issues.

[@lizh1988]

He was so disgusting to her, but he kept insisting that the reason she did it was 'she had mental illness', and in his sermon right after she died, he claimed she 'couldn't get her meds'. He blasted a text to her family accusing them of causing the death by telling her she didn't need meds, and he says they told her to get divorced. He is not sorry she's dead, and he caused her mental illness.

[@colletti7569]

Yep. Guilty.

[@joannemates6367]

I’m not a body language expert but Blind Freddy can see he is not grieving!!!! I don’t know the story but I’m tipping he is somehow involved.

[@tpop3723]

Next thing he will say is that she worked for Boeing.

[@erinrametta1]

Thanks Scott. I love hearing these things put into clear verbalization. Sometimes things feel off but it’s hard to put a finger on it. This was educational, especially for empaths that keep attracting narcissists in our lives

[@rosajucglaserra4506]

He seems very happy...

[@eyeballbilly]

dude has his hand in his pocket most of the time, what a con man

[@noelle1225]

Interesting info. I question everything about this case. I live just north of Myrtle Beach.

[@amandanelson4681]

My take on this story so far is that there is extreme gaslighting going on and that he has a history of abuse among several women over many many years. Tigers don’t change their stripes.

[@LA-gg7mg]

Love Scott Rouse! The Behavior Panel is such a great group!

[@GinaJohnson-if6hr]

I agree. I didn’t see grief either. I have a pastor friend who died. His pastor brother and pastor dad preached at his funeral, and while they made it through, there was definitely grief present throughout…even when the fun and funny stories were told. JP displays none of that in any service, interview, or photo. It’s really strange.

[@lifestylehomestead]

He looks like a guilty child. To me it's not just not showing grief. He looks like a child standing in front of me trying to convince/deceive me because THEY did something they know they shouldn't have...

[@MsHealthyfit]

he killed his own wife and to make it even worse, he is using God’s name in vain by pretending to be a pastor. He is a wolf in sheeps clothing.

[@caliblue2]

That’s a psychopath for ya

[@brightpage1020]

He’s got the same Che as Chris Watts. The pacing thing. I once took Copaweira class… they talked about the Che - you keep moving side to side sort of to establish your balance. Called it “find your Che”.

[@awakeninthelord1111]

This is so heartbreaking when you think about how she killed herself because of a man, who couldn't care any less about her, and infact HEAVILY influenced her in doing so, if not had a much larger role in her death. You know what I mean. . This is so so heartbreaking! 😭😭💔

[@laurenmay2098]

She did not killed herself because of him. What are you talking about? Are you a psychologist or something?

[@preciousgem6506]

She didn’t kill herself because of him per say. I mean yes he was the cause of it, but she was in despair because of all the abuse and she probably wanted to be left alone. She just couldn’t take it anymore and he was part of it of this mess and her demise. For sure

[@awakeninthelord1111]

@@laurenmay2098 you don't believe his abuse and the trauma, and her feeling like she could never get away or live life normally after Him wasn't the cause? Her family said she had no signs of mental illness until she married Him.. I think it was because of HIM. What's your take on it?

[@laurenmay2098]

@awakeninthelord1111 she was sick, c'mon. She didn't know a way out. It didn't help the fact she was paranoid, and he kept sending someone to follow her and put a GPS on her car. Some of us would go to the police and get a restraining order. But she was sick. Maybe she needed family around and friends to support her. It's too late now.

[@laurenmay2098]

@preciousgem6506 The way he treated her wasn't right. He has his hands duty. But she was sick, and her disease killed her.

[@silviamtz8961]

Yessss, first time I heard him I didn't hear grief or saw any sadness he was just giving an announcement. A whatever announcement. Then I heard he has a girlfriend so then I thought, oh well, that makes sense BUT saying she wasn't right mentally is something he shouldn't say publicly.

[@SpaceCadet4Jesus]

So far nobody has any video evidence of her being mentally unfit. Every video I've seen of her she has been lucid, emotionally even, and sensible.

[@silviamtz8961]

@@SpaceCadet4Jesus I can only speculate but cheaters gaslight you, narcissist gaslight you. In that in public your image is a good one, a holy one in his case but behind doors who would know his real colors??? His wife. Invalidation, emotional abuse and gaslighting can affect a person. I wouldn't be surprised this is what happened here with this "pastor".

[@debbiecollins6517]

The very first video I watched of this case, was the one in which he announced his wife's death. I knew nothing else before that. The first few things he said, made me sad. But he continued!! Even I thought to myself, "What kind of husband and father of their children would tell a congregation that his wife had mental problems?" I'm sure there were many, sitting there, who loved her dearly and I'm sure a few of her closest friends, sitting there, knew from her very own words what she had been going through with him. But it was as if he were making sure there would be no question about the why because he was blaming it ALL on her and that she had not taken her medication. How would he even know, since they were separated, that she had not taken her meds and why did he think that was important enough to mention AFTER the fact?? After watching the video a few times more, I even thought he looked pleased that she was gone!! I don't care if they were separated!! She was gone...the MOTHER of their children!! And that was no way, in my opinion, a grieving husband would have talked and acted!! That's exactly what he was doing!! Acting!!!

[@DarkerSideOfDawn]

It’s more than just a qualifier .. it’s also a dig at her .. to insult her in the grace and to distract from his role ..

[@grammygirlforgod9326]

Much love to Scott Rouse for his insight!! I wish the clip of JP announcing the death of Mica would have rolled to the end, where he told the congregation not to talk about it there. 🤦🏻‍♀️ He gives off such creepy dishonest vibes, for sure. ✝️ Rest in peace, beautiful Mica!!! #JusticeForMica

[@m.i.n.d.y]

Notice how he keeps saying his wife has ‘mental issues’ instead of just saying she was diagnosed with bipolar or whatever she was diagnosed with. It’s like he wants people to think she’s crazy and to exaggerate her mental health issues

[@lizh1988]

There doesn't seem to have been any diagnosis, he mostly made that up. Her family said she was fine until she got involved with him.

[@cherylgillespie1593]

He’s fake for sure.

[@kayeerdmann1938]

We miss miss and love Mica. Such a beautiful woman, inside and out married to a creep.

[@michaelfrancis1]

Thank you for the assessment!

[@lorilyndalulu]

Love watching Scott and the Body Language guys!

[@karinaz8756]

Who makes people STAND UP before delivering bad news?

[@luisa5312]

He wanted them to leave right away

[@mzfitmama2361]

First of all how the helll does this man get through a whole damn sermon if he is grieving…. There is no way. He knew she was going to do this that she may have threatened or that he himself did

[@thevintagefetcher]

We’ve heard over and again her medication was Lithium. It is a VERY COMMON medication and is available in GENERIC! Mine costs $4 without insurance copay. Why was it “hard to get to her?”😮

[@iwillrocknroll4eva]

Prolly cause she refused to take it!

[@thevintagefetcher]

@@iwillrocknroll4evawhat in her history would lead you to believe she was refusing to take her meds?

[@Megdracula]

Yay I wanted the behavioral panel to examine him!!!

[@davidmicu3359]

I hope so much that The Behavior Panel analyzes him!

[@Atypicalkid88]

I was misdiagnosed with bipolar disorder from 25 y/o to 32. I was put on lithium after the constant abuse of a narcissist ex and boss. I advocated for myself and I don't have bipolar. I have ADHD. I remember my ex was happy to take me to therapy and chug lithium and olanzapine (antipsichotic) to "make me softer and calmer" of course he wanted that, he wanted me confused and seem crazy. I remember he even convinced my mother to put me back on the bipolar meds when I started to see right through the abuse and manipulation. I almost married this man.. but like Mica, I looked for help, broke it off and did a lot of reading and self work. I AM now thriving, on the right meds and right diagnosis. It pains me to know and learn about this case because it hits SO close to home. not a lot of people (specially women) have the energy or resources to get out of that situation. It drains you mentally, emotionally and financially. If you are a person going through something similar please find help, you deserve a love that makes you feel free and safe.

[@lefish5277]

SCOTT ROUSE ON MY FAVORITE TV SHOW!?!? AHHHHHHHH THIS IS AWESOME!!! I love the Behavior Panel on KZbin! 😊😊❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@radiantmessenger3369]

Will be watching for Behavior Panel to do video after they interrogate this creep

[@annabehrens296]

He got the call last night and already knows the date and time he’s gonna have her funeral?!

[@franksinatracovers6280]

People learn from this don’t let these people just cause their Pastors fool you. Have them check out. If their in the up and up they will welcome investigation.

[@yesyjam1]

This was the saddest excuse of a memorial. Like he intended to purposely do the absolute least. It’s an insult to her memory. He should have done nothing than this poor excuse of a memorial.

[@jewel1953]

I have seen smiles in every recorded murder I have seen...Susan Smith, Barry Morphew, Chris Watts.

[@annabehrens296]

Also saying the whole congregation knew she had mental issues…. What? Was he preaching about them?!

[@corinneburque]

Great to see you Scott ..

[@skyoak4611]

Love the Body Language guys but on this one the majority of people’s alarm bells went off and didn’t need an expert to let us know this guys behavior is abnormal. Grief affects people differently but not that different! So sad. I hope the family gets some kind of justice.

[@kathymeyer7695]

Yes I agree

[@nicole6096]

That individual is an advocate for evil! Karma will catch up to that evil soul!

[@augustdelacreme]

Truthfully when my love ones pass away, I blame everyone for not helping, I assume it was preventable until an autopsy is performed. He automatically blamed the victim one day after, I see why the church fired him. I feel more sadness for weeks after a breakup than he felt for his deceased wife. During a break up feels like a death 🤦🏽‍♀️

[@yarnchickenkim]

Thanks for this. Was wondering what these guys thought about his body language. JP seems more like he’s putting on a performance. No grief whatsoever.

[@DanielleJohnson-e3n]

I love the Behavior Panel, going to watch their video. They are really good at body language.

[@nas487]

If you would mute that announcement. It’s like he’s preaching a regular sermon.

[@bettycogswell9851]

I still believe he had something to do with her death.

[@valleygirl2530]

Okay I agree - No Grief. But Scott please tell us what you DO see. All you described is what you DONT see.

[@cam1259]

I've been waiting to hear from a body expert!

[@MemphisUSA]

He should be behind bars and not in bars!! He's gotten rid of the wife that was suing him for divorce. Now he gets to keep all the marital assets and have girlfriends most likely a big insurance policy from her demise. Secretly, this narcissist is living his best life now. He thinks he's won.

[@jennc6881]

I lost my mom and I couldn’t sit still. The only time I didn’t cry was when I was staring at my hands and playing with my fingers. Also anxiety meds helped. I called bs from the start.

[@jaime4890]

He’s not going to show grief! He knew it was going to happen, and he’s already moved on with a new girlfriend. He could care less. He is the devil.

[@carolsimmons5205]

Oh I love this guy! He’s great! I have his book.

[@catarinamoraes6392]

1: I had seen a photo from the first video somewhere and I thought it was an old photo of him giving a lecture like at some university. It was an involuntary thought, but to me it shows that his demeanor here is REALLY not of someone who lost their wife. There are different "types of grieving" but none of them make you look so relaxed. 2: My sister died by suicide in 2010 and TO THIS DAY there are people on our extended family that doesn't know that she had severe depression. I guess my parents didn't want to expose her pain and what she was going through maybe (I never questioned their decision). Of course not all families are the same, but telling a full audience such a personal thing about your wife THAT quickly... Idk it just seems a little strange to say the least.

[@Hx3ney]

Thank you Scott 💕