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[@TheRogueWolf]

A lot of people say that Twitch is inconsistent in applying their rules; I think otherwise. Twitch has _always_ been of the mindset "if you make us a lot of money, the rules don't apply to you; if you don't, we'll smash you so that it looks like we're trying".

[@talkingtakotaco8611]

True, that part is consistent. They should just include that into their actual rules. At least it'll be honest.

[@DemonFireRain]

bans have almost never meant anything. If people think the big twitch streamers, making thousands of dollars a day, are hurt by something like a 3 day ban then they're delusional.

[@ice_queen9]

i just think the people at twitch are really really stupid

[@Hisnitch]

@@DemonFireRain Apparently, in actuality, because subs don't renew while banned, the longer a streamer is hit with a twitch ban, the worst it gets. A 14 day week wipes out more then 50% of their income stastically.

[@DemonFireRain]

@@Hisnitch sure, but depending on who they are they may have enough money to fall back on for one week, and then a little bit of time to rebuild their subs. I don't have a lot of sympathy for streamers getting themselves banned by being dipshits.

[@AurasFeel]

I wish it stayed a little longer so we coulda had a clip of Pat and Woolie shirtless in the rain

[@plinfan6541]

We lost the Peak of the Internet

[@turkish8969]

my favorite part of this whole thing is that at some point the coomers would, at some point, see a fully grown mans hairy asshole while they are browsing twitch, causing them the same mental anguish as the rest of us, but worse. and lets not forget twitch did this AFTER they closed down their korean website, lel.

[@Gh0stWh33l]

Pat and Woolie in the rain, Woolie is shirtless, Pat is naked. Both are using body pillows like swords.

[@leithaziz2716]

"For Twitch's Sake" plays as two brothers, Woolie and Pat, face off during the music.

[@gameb9oy]

@@Gh0stWh33lpat’s is specifically an Astarion body pillow. Everyone knows it isn’t his

[@titaniumteddybear]

"It's art as long as you're frowning". Omfg that's good.

[@leithaziz2716]

The Yakuza shirtless final boss cosplay is over, pack it up.

[@Akimbo411]

“Sorry advertisers, we really wanted cam site money without cam site consequences” - Twitch Legal

[@vincenttorrijos9680]

What i think is funny is, by framing it in even the most petty way possible, a naked Vtuber model is automatically "artistic nudity," because it is art that is naked vs real life nudity which has to be justified within the contents of the stream.

[@npiper]

Yeah... no if that were the case Barnes and Noble would be stocking the most degenerate loli hentai bestiality smut you couldn't even imagine right next to the Georgia O'Keeffe and Frida Kahlo coffee table books. "Artistic Merit" is an often litigated thing and not a cut and dried free pass at allllll.

[@Biodeamon]

the corpos HATE life and reproduction, but love people dying and suffering they're antihuman

[@mushihimesamas]

WOOLIE DID KNOW ABOUT THE TITTY FIGHTER! How could he not?! It was all over steam! No way he's that blind! I won't believe it!

[@derpstick5467]

What’s the name?

[@MoostachedSaiyanPrince]

I'm with @Derpstick5467, gonna need the name.

[@talkingtakotaco8611]

I'm going to need a citation for my research paper.

[@wolfmanbob321]

Not me coming back every 20 mins to see if anyone's answered yet

[@bossbeartherock6034]

Same

[@mrelba9176]

Pat doing nipple tassel katas is now a concept lost to time.

[@literallywho-y2f]

shout out to Huniecam which is still specifically banned from Twitch by name despite having no nudity

[@kot4311]

To paraphrase Professor Lando, if you make a living producing NSFW art, it’s become increasingly difficult as most of the sites you could put your work stopped allowing that sort of thing. In that regard this rule would have been a big win since they would have a platform where they could monetize their work

[@Kaarl_Mills]

Newgrounds for the moment is probably one of the better places to post this. That is of course assuming it doesn't have certain, features, that make it more niche

[@Vanity0666]

The question then becomes who is liable for streaming indecent acts to kids and what is considered "artful" versus "porn"

[@egg2520]

​@Vanity0666 It's already so easy to come across thirst traps on the internet that allowing NSFW stuff on Twitch feels like them dropping the act and showing how little they care about the kids that wind up in entertainment circles that aren't meant for them. Videogame streaming seems accessible enough for younger people though, which makes this all the more weird. I'm just saying, I remember being a kid on the internet. I did not stick to the designated kid zones and that shaped me somewhat

[@Vanity0666]

@@egg2520 it's actually far worse, the whole thing is part of a plan to shut down the legitimate porn industry through the use of state legislation and congressional lobbying in order to become the only legal providers of "morally scrupulous" material targeted specifically at vulnerable populations in order to create addicts, because addicts are significantly less likely to stop paying into a service that provides them with a constant stream of vices that are hypertargeted to them based on personality profiling data. (Just take a look at how many gambling and casino streams are on twitch to the point of having their own categories for specific types of gambling) It's part of why Tiktok works the way it does and why it has such a hold over certain people. Twitches viewership and target audience is dominantly single males under the age of 18.

[@Akimbo411]

Have you considered that people shouldn’t be encouraged to make a living producing pornographic content at all?

[@Katanasquirrel87]

Thank God Twitch is here to protect us from seeing a boob while watching the goriest possible DBD footage. Also, anybody remember when Vinesauce Vinny got nuked from orbit by Twitch because he played a HL Blade Runner mod that had a single ad with a nipple?

[@Terithian]

That was the first thing I thought about when I heard about the rule change. "Oh cool, maybe now streamers won't have to worry about their careers if a nipple shows up on screen for a couple seconds."

[@heartlesshealer]

It was in fact a 0-hour boob window. There's still at least one vtuber suspended for simply having the avatar that they did. And every artist that made use of the rule change got slapped.

[@pedrox20000]

my tinfoil hat theory is that they knew this would happen and did this rule temporarily to hide something else they were going to do, there's no way they didn't know what would happen, they have people hired to predict this type of shit

[@botwhy]

The problem is that they are so incompetent at times that I could believe they didn't know where this would go

[@Romancesymphony]

They made a mountain of money in that 24 hours. I don't think it has to go that much deeper.

[@MrIndiemusic101]

​​​@@botwhy I dunno if this is the case anymore but I heard a while back that the vast majority of twitch employees (product, sales, and management) were under the age of 30. Im only 30 now and even I was younger and working I couldn't imagine working in a supposed professional outfit where the majority of staff including management is that young. This is the only kind of decision making that a bunch of immature man children would be making. There were even stories of twitch staff hooking up with streamers at twitch events. There honestly seems like a clear lack of professionalism that's ingrained in twitch's company culture. Allowing immature adults to run far reaching corporations is like giving a monkey a shotgun.

[@botwhy]

@MrIndiemusic101 well, that actually explains A LOT

[@Dannyjake32]

Didn't Twitch just back out of Korea?

[@lexofexcel886]

This is why any rules against obscenity are too vague to be effective. The difference between art and obscenity is impossible to define in legal terms.

[@iller3]

the separation between network television and various cable television channels did this just fine for decades. ...people even came up with the slang term "Skinnemax" to describe one of them that existed solely to cross the line.

[@OpticalJesu5]

Realisticly, the rule is as long as you bring in enough money and you aren't rocking the boat too hard to draw attention, do whatever.

[@tigerfestivals5137]

And this is why obscenity laws should be abolished wholesale

[@subhuman216]

we were so close to "GIFG: For Service", but alas, a mere nanosecond in Woolie Time™ is nowhere near enough to bring a thing so Glorious into existence

[@miguelnewmexico8641]

Woolie Time would sound like the new Colored People Time if it weren't for the fact Woolie isn't black.

[@Egalia_1]

I love how Twitch started with: "Okay guys we fixed the problem! All the sexual content can have its own tag and everyone is happy!" Then the sponsors saw that and all called Twitch HQ going: "What the FUCK are you doing!? Get that off your platform or we're pulling out!" Cue Twitch facing a large drop in revenue having to immediately throw out and blanket no everything. Back to streamers figuring out how far they can push rules to get donations from desperate people

[@RipOffProductionsLLC]

Twitch just needs to just make a separate camgirl site...

[@Vanity0666]

They are just going to double down on casinos for 13 year olds

[@BreakerBea]

Without giving a name, because either you already know or its not hard to look up: One Vtuber who once the rule change was made, announced with a full nude model "Embracing Degeneracy". People on twitter warned her that shed get in trouble, she blocked them. Went live for 6 hours with that full nude nodel, continued to block people in her chat who were warning her that she didnt read the TOS, and openly stated "Other streamers arent smart because they dont read the TOS." And was then banned with a one day suspension.

[@OpticalJesu5]

There were also a lot of people fillowing the TOS who got vamned by mass report. I really just feel this was a test for their AI moderator to ban shit.

[@BreakerBea]

@OpticalJesu5 and youre probably right. That makes a lot more sense than what i had originally thought, which was twitch simply putting a little more effort into "ugh fuck it, we're tired of hearing people bitching"

[@Romancesymphony]

I really wish we had audio of the internal Twitch conversations before, during and after.

[@habadasheryjones]

"Gentleman, its not looking good this fiscal quarter. Its finally time wee shook things up. Yo Gary! Push the artistic nudity button! Its the one in the corner labeled "BIG OL' TIDDIES*

[@agent5333]

It’s just wet plappingg and moaning, followed by “UUNNGHHHH”

[@helloimtom100]

it was even funnier watching it live unfold and explode into itself. the Art section of twitch devolved into porn section. People drawing hentai, watching hentai, stream of ppl just twerking non stop, all under the Art section. It degraded into debaucher in the matter of hrs. Hilarious

[@Vanity0666]

Porn for children is an untapped market, they would be foolish not to stake their claim Also, gambling for children, keep your eyes on that space next It's basically free money!

[@posteriorpepperoni]

@@Vanity0666 Kiryu taught them well

[@t.dmattocks6119]

​@@Vanity0666Gambling for children is most certainly not an untapped market. I have Genshin on my phone right now.

[@zacharychristy8928]

I literally could not comprehend a timeline where "Morgpie" shows up in a tumbnail for Pat and Woolie's videos but here we are, lmao

[@JoffeeBean]

I cant believe i recognize it

[@HoweIIPendragon]

​@@JoffeeBeanShe went hard in that F*****g like an Amazon video. Legendary status

[@s7robin105]

The funniest thing is that this whole thing could just be solved by a toggle for 18+ content in the settings. That way you could have separate streams between adult content and the 13 YEAR OLDS who use Twitch

[@talkingtakotaco8611]

But the whole point for the streamers is to straddle the line, can't do that with a clearly drawn line.

[@s7robin105]

@@talkingtakotaco8611 Very true, its a lot more fun to see people unsure what is and is not ban worthy and for it to be inconsistent

[@talkingtakotaco8611]

@@s7robin105 well yes, but I meant to say the tiddy streamers whole mission statement is to straddle the line. So having an 18+ section, might actually reduce the number of tiddy streamers. Which I suspect twitch does not want to do.

[@s7robin105]

@@talkingtakotaco8611 probably true

[@RavenCloak13]

That doesn't solve anything when the kid just watch the 18+ anyway.

[@alexanderjamesaustin]

You really can't have a 'get the fuck outta here ' clause for dancing on the line, when the line is literally "over there somewhere. Idk. It's kinda fuzzy"

[@Sasquach1312]

To even begin to enforce those rules Twitch would have to define not only what art is, but the infinitely more nightmarish question of what art isn't.

[@Samael1113]

It has been an odd week, seeing the amazing, classy, talented real-world visual artist that is Morgana Stone (Morgpie) get her face plastered (ba-dum-tss) everywhere with free publicity. One of the most popular internet people, in some circles, crossing over in to the mainstream... she has to be getting PAID this month and next.

[@superboomn]

An art streamer literally got banned for drawing the statue of david though

[@_Sage967_]

i will stand by the fact that the problem WAS NOT the rule itself but that in order for the rule to work Twitch would actually have to do its job which would require punishing titty streamers that felt they could go harder the reason i dont care about the various artist and Vtubers is because that was always gonna happen as form of stress test and as long as Twitch actually dealt with them everything would've been fine a blanket "no" that people have become accustomed to is a lot easier to manage than creating a new dynamic that puts you moneymakers in the line of fire

[@leithaziz2716]

It was just mentioned that Twitch used AI to regulate who was breaking the rules or not, and it was doing it poorly. I don't feel this could have ever worked out with a site as big as Twitch. I wouldn't say there isn't a place to make suggestive content that's tasteful (as long as you keep it away from people who aren't of appropriate age), but would you really want the average Twitch viewer to be your audience? I'm asking because I'm actually not sure what the goal is if you wanted to make that content on that platform specifically. I don't really know what WOULD be an appropriate place to make such content outside of you-know-what.

[@turkish8969]

The thing is, twitch has a huge coomer problem, and unfortunately, most of those coomers are young teenagers. call me crazy, but if your VIDEOGAME WEBSITE that has a minimum age requirement of 13 has pron on it, MAYBE there should be some fines towards that company, especially when they CLEARLY encourage this behavior. yeah i understand parents need to watch what their kids view online, but like, you couldnt avoid booby streamers on twitch if you tried. there is ZERO way around it, and they only moderate their rules when controversy happens. and its always the same girls too, maybe just ban them permanently instead of a 3 day ban

[@leithaziz2716]

@@turkish8969 The sad thing is that I can confirm doing regrettable stuff behind my parents back, but I wouldn't put the blame on them. Teenagers aren't THAT stupid, they know to an extent what they're doing is probably of consequence and that parents only care for your own sake. They just don't wanna face the truth. That's why I never buy into tha idea that all the blame should be on the parents. Some people are just smart at knowing when they're being watched and how to hide away shit.

[@iller3]

But this would require them to have Concise rules that their biased underqualified simping "moderators" couldn't just enforce arbitrarily and spitefully against their "cultural" opponents

[@_Sage967_]

@@leithaziz2716 an entire category was flooded with example problem streams to use as an example not only that but part of the problem was that basic features to accommodate what content they intended to allow didn't exist in order to protect the children that'd be used as the face of the arguments against the new rule and people that didn't come to twitch for that shit saying that it's just "the AI didn't work" or "twitch is too big" misses the point that twitch made no effort to structure itself in a way that would handle this well. they opened the floodgates, did absolutely nothing to prepare for the flood, and were surprised when said flood caused problems as for the goal of the people that do it, it';s probably for better access to more people particularly in recent years where "those sites" have got their shit pushed in twitch grants far more access to people passively

[@mikekazz5353]

Sir the AI can't handle all this erotica

[@fluidthought42]

Stealing this line for my GLaDOS fanfic

[@adams3627]

Plot twist: the AI absolutely CAN tell the difference, it's just become self-aware enough to decide that it LIKES it

[@habadasheryjones]

​@@adams3627When I think of that self aware AI I'm just picturing Robocop attempting and failing to fight against directive 4.

[@mikekazz5353]

​​@@fluidthought42 close, look up _Internet historian the virus strikes back._

[@FloofyOneTorpheus]

it's the fact that the put in parentheses a thing including Virtual avatars, saying they weren't allowed to crop the camera

[@theotherjared9824]

We could've seen Pat and Woolie touch tips, but it was not to be.

[@powerfist1340]

The 'get the fuck out of here' clause can also be called 'don't take the piss'.

[@KrytenKoro]

Dammit woolie! Cover your shame.

[@Xzeihoranth]

Twitch having 'board room discussions' about camgirls is the cutest idea.

[@GENIUSGT]

2:41 I'm sorry can we back up a bit. Did Woolie say "lap dance at a wedding"?

[@StardustSynchron]

It’s all about the money *_baby_*

[@raccoonofmotivation20]

Literally someone in the last twitch clip told me "there werent any topless streamers what are you talking about" Like wtf

[@talkingtakotaco8611]

I opened twitch a day or two ago and found 5. 6 if you count the guy in the fake breast suit too.

[@TheNazkan]

Featuring Woolie's newest series, Get into Fighting Game Girls.

[@professordetective807]

I think the most objective definition for "hardcore" pornography we have is "are depictions of masturbation and/or any form of inter/outercourse present?" I would be fine with casual nudity on Twitch, as long as it's behind an age gate (maybe even a Prime paywall, because bank card info is really the only thing we have for age verification in the States), but "hardcore" pornography NEEDS its own site.

[@tigerfestivals5137]

Deviantart literally has had a ToS with specifics for this for years, twitch could have copied it verbatim and it would have been fine but they left it vague.

[@professordetective807]

@@tigerfestivals5137 | Yes, exactly. Though, they've been getting lax recently. I've been reporting a LOT of AI art that clearly hits the "hardcore" line.

[@tigerfestivals5137]

@@professordetective807 yeah I was talking about their terms, not their enforcement. Their terms are very clear but their enforcement is very bad and has been getting worse with the rise of AI art

[@professordetective807]

@@tigerfestivals5137 | Agreed.

[@MuffinHunterX]

Wouldn't it just be easier to launch a pocket corner of the site dedicated to NSFW streaming and have the rule be so long as the streamer isn't actively engaging in blatant sexual activity (masturbation, actual intercourse) then it's chill? Just requires a little more authentication to cover their asses to get in.

[@Vanity0666]

The whole plan is basically to shut down a legal and safe porn industry that exists outside of Amazon's pockets through legislation in numerous states as well as in congress (things like the EARN IT act) then use the big existing platforms to push predatory practices onto vulnerable users (addicts, children, etc) in order to create and fuel addictive tendencies thus making the users less likely to stop paying into a service in perpetuity They're doing it with casinos and gambling and pornography because those are the largest entertainment industries that are not explicitly owned by Disney and Amazon It's quite literally what the film industry did back when it was coming up, by forcing all films to pass through state legislated boards to determine whether the material was indecent or morally suitable for public viewership, which led to rank antisemitism in the industry followed by child exploitation

[@IstasPumaNevada]

Good luck to the people trying to draw the line of enforcement on THAT rule. "isn't actively engaging in blatant sexual activity", every single one of those seven words would be interpreted to the absolute limit in every creative way that the internet could conceive of.

[@professordetective807]

With maybe a Twitch Prime paywall. Because credit card info is the only real way to confirm someone is over 18 in the USA.

[@chaffXgrenade]

so now they go back to streaming on Picarto like usual life goes on

[@ExeErdna]

They don't stream on Picarto like that though, It was simply Twitch allowing them to stream at full power

[@Kango234]

I don't know how true this is, but I've heard Picarto has had issues paying people in the past.

[@stopthis8171]

mission failed, we'll get em next time

[@rosenrot234]

We coulda had a stream of just Pat and Woolie shirtless in the rain. Goddammit.

[@prideofjustice994]

16:36 So just the average Skyrim stream with mods.

[@BigSisterNeko]

Why are higher ups sooooo quick/trusting to drop human judgment for robo judgement? Like are they just that lazy or stupid or cheap to actually monitor the content on their website and enforce rules? KZbin is no different. There's way more issues, and less problems solved when a human isn't involved. Wanna know how you get, Skynet? This is how you get Skynetted?!

[@Pyrozoid]

more people would get into fighting games if Woolie would just go shirtless

[@RowdyRego]

I heard this on the podcast yesterday and was like "they fixed it?!" Took a look at just chatting, all those streams were gone. Checked today and they were back. So I don't know what the hell is happening anymore

[@habadasheryjones]

Yeah I don't know what about the policy changed? Was it just full nudity during the 48 hour window and now its changed to "crop out the nipples" streamers? Remember when sexual content in the twitch just chatting section was limited to women in skimpy bikinis french kissing binaural microphones? I got some laughs seeing the chat messages for that stuff. Those weirdos. Chat logs for these new moron bubble corn streamers is just sad. They've got the whole world wide web full of racey content at their fingertips and here they are engaging with a pair of half measures positioned just out of view of the webcam.

[@charge77]

Oh no, I can't go to Twitch to bust one now. If only there was a reliable source of pornography on the internet.

[@habadasheryjones]

I guess morons have an alternative to their bubble porn now.

[@pokesonav]

Pretty sure the main reason why censorship in hentai anime and manga is still a thing is because to remove the law that requires it, someone would have to actually suggest it. And no one wants to be known as "the hentai politician" for the rest of their life.

[@Ehh.....]

Pat never got to reveal his orb.

[@Akaritomi]

The Patrick and Woolie topless hot tub special stream. MAKE IT HAPPEN!!!

[@TheSpookiestSkeleton]

Metatas

[@cybergeek11235]

The AI didn't work? I'm *shocked*. Surprised. Utterly flabbergasted. Astonished beyond belief. wait, no - not that, the other thing.

[@MuppetKing]

This will happen every time on every website whose revenue generation method is advertising, because advertisers aren't going to touch a website that "shows porn to children" with a 1000km pole while wearing rubber gloves and a N95 mask.

[@AnnCatsanndra]

TWO LINES IS TOO MANY WOOLIE

[@nickcasillas1618]

Yes Patt, some of us would pay real money to see the big fat ginger gut. A lot of money in fact… please

[@ricardomiles2957]

this reminds me years ago when someone sent etika(rip) a unlisted playlist for people with 'gluton fetish' that was full of video of a guy fat guy eating stuff while farting and burping.

[@ArcticAndroid-on9pw]

If nothing else; this proved without a shadow of doubt that the people wanted these things, and twitch did not want them to want it.

[@khimeraQ]

And all while Twitch flounders with their artistic nudity, Picarto stands forever the chad.

[@Coconut-219]

I don't understand global megacorporations, is degeneracy "brave and beautiful" or frowned upon - which is it??? They're sending some really mixed messages here.

[@waldorffordlaw9529]

I think I the most annoying part is no they didn't really miss it, theres still people in twitch with their everything barely concealed, but if you're someone actually you know making art with like a pen or digital tools? Ban straight to hell how dare you sully this child friendly site

[@PolygonAlley]

The AI that's smarter than 1000s of humans can't tell the difference between pornography and a just chatting stream?

[@turkish8969]

really makes you think

[@bej4987]

They're the same picture

[@mikekazz5353]

"I know it when I see it"

[@ShadowWolf936]

It's doing what it's told, it won't know the difference between straight nudity and artistic nudity. Because art is subjective. It's gonna just label it all as nudity, as it is logical. AI is smart but smart is a different way

[@tylerlackey1175]

​@@ShadowWolf936who told you art is subjective?

[@Dracobyte]

Booba together strong!

[@Dragonsmana]

Lot of streams getting crossed in that thumbnail.

[@shotguncrucifix]

Some would consider GG Allin to be artistic.

[@UCannotDefeatMyShmeat]

Christ even Reddit figured this shit out

[@OmgBsitka]

Its just kinda gross that they dont have age restrictions for this shit though. Like twitch should just make twitch Hub at this point.

[@OpticalJesu5]

I'm pretty sure Twitch knows what they're doing and is going well whatever gets another prime sub.

[@habadasheryjones]

I mean online "are you 18 or older" age restrictions are a joke. Most people young enough to have grown up with the web have faked their birthday or smashed the brightly colored yes button.

[@npiper]

Do you have any Idea how much organized crime is tangled up in porn? Not even Bezos bucks can save your ass if the Don thinks you are cutting into their share of Porn Hub cash.

[@OmgBsitka]

@habadasheryjones i totally get that. But for twitch a company that targets a manly younger audience and for softcore porn content to be streamed so easily and have it even easier to access is kinda sad.

[@idontknow11829]

I mean those things aren't even really to verify if minors are accessing the website, it's actually just to avoid liability just in case the minor sees something they shouldn't have and the parents want to sue.@@habadasheryjones

[@bej4987]

Why does twitch want to be baby's first cam site so bad?

[@VideosVlogsThatsIt]

They are running out of money

[@sparkytepig]

Becoming, “baby’s first cam site”, is them metaphorically going upstream to siphon off of the river of coomer dollars before any of the actual cam sites get their fill of revenue. Because Twitch knows they cannot compete with those cam sites directly.

[@turkish8969]

Because they just closed their korean branch and are losing tons of money.

[@OpticalJesu5]

If they had to compete directly with a cam site they'd lose and a lot of people actually don't want to be associated, and not just advertisers but also streamers, with a cam site. Not to mention banks are notoriously extremely antiporn. Them straddling the line of nsfw actually creates more streamers because otherwise everyone would just be tits out and twitch wouldn't be their "if you wanna see more you check my twitter etc" platform. Not to mention rules have never been equal on Twitch. You can straight up break tos as long as you make them enough money and dont cause too much of a stir. Artists do straight up get fucked by this but if the day ends in Y someone is trying to fuck artists out of something.

[@habadasheryjones]

​@@OpticalJesu5 Somewhere there is a artist painstakingly sculpting the detailed naked torso of a greek statue from scratch who is lucky get 2 consecutive viewers because everyone else is at the glitter tiddies/yoga asses winking straight at the camera streams. Spare a moment of silence for not just the artists, but the women use to jamming their tongues into binaural microphones. They've been left behind by twitch firing their sexual content policy pistol from the hip with reckless abandon.

[@fernandozavaletabustos205]

Booba so OP it fot nerfed.

[@Artista_Frustrado]

is hilarious that Twitch's cycle of New Metas is always the same: an IRL lady streamer pushes the line, Twitch moves the line without telling staff, everyone jumps right into the blurred line, an incel React Andy gets mad & mobilizes his fanbase, half of the streamers get banned even if they are following the rules, Twitch keeps the new rules just for IRL Tittys. Rinse & repeat

[@npiper]

You are missing a KEY component of the anti-titty-twitch movement, the actual adult streaming services that lose business every time Twitch relaxes the rules. Like Pat said "Nothing is true, Everything is allowed" welcome to astroturfing, it LOOKS like a real grass roots movement of passionate idiots but it's actually manufactured by a corporation to look that way from a distance.

[@maxpflughoeft6806]

Ah yes of course blame the “incels” and not the people exploiting children and lonely desperate men. The “lady” streamers are also hardly ladies in the truest sense of the word. Lady of the night maybe.

[@yash_kapoor]

Next time boys

[@00ironskull]

What is this indie fighter called? For research

[@oceanviolets1306]

Pat, AT LEAST 20% of women and 40% of gay men want to see you in a shirt 1-2 sizes too small, probably more.

[@FuzzyS0X]

twitch really just needs some kind of ethics review. pay some cheap foreign labor market to review reports to determine what the intent is so we can weed out the bad-actors

[@CaymenLeP]

Disgusting! Awful! What were their names again? So I can block them, of course…

[@skrumpybumkins7053]

god damn it

[@Hisnitch]

So, I will point out that the moment the rule changes came out, a lot of streamers got banned who shouldn't had been banned along with a lot of streamers who were *blatantly* breaking the rules that were established with the excuse that they either didn't read the rules, or "didn't read the rules." The only way this will be solved is if all of the horny streams are glassed from the site, sent to the ether by which they belong, like they should had done _years_ ago.

[@pickledparsleyparty]

Hey what if there's a streamer whose tits or junk the folks at Twitch REALLY wanted to see so they drummed this up long enough for them to let em out and then shut the door real fast now that the footage exists. Huh? What if that?

[@kevindaydreamer]

I think about tasteful nudity in the past.. and it was scandalous then. Fetish is a word people should understand, since tits themselves aren't erotic.

[@TheRogueWolf]

It wasn't all that long ago, relatively speaking, that young men would hang around places hoping for a woman to show off her ankle.

[@derpstick5467]

They are just a way for the baby to get nutrition, if you look at it logically but hey we’re animals, we also think with our emotions so we get our cocks hard or cunts soaking if we see some big ol’honkers, what’s your preference btw?

[@turkish8969]

"since tits themselves aren't erotic" gay or European (also gay)? call it

[@tylerlackey1175]

​@@turkish8969you forgot "pedo". What sort of adult wouldn't be attracted to adult features. Mental illness must be at play

[@kevindaydreamer]

@@turkish8969 worst, humanist.

[@blackdragoncyrus]

Like.

[@Tratatertot]

The inclusion of breastfeeding was completely unnecessary.

[@habadasheryjones]

"Let me fire up the webcam. Gotta feed the baby."

[@Tratatertot]

@@habadasheryjones there's plenty of circumstances where the camera is already on and the baby needs to eat. Or maybe they're making educational content about breastfeeding for new mothers.

[@habadasheryjones]

@@Tratatertot aha education. Step 1: Baby mouth go here Step 2: Profit

[@Tratatertot]

@habadasheryjones hahaha. If only it were that easy. Clearly someone whose never breastfed a baby. Love to see someone with an opinion on a topic they know nothing about. Beautiful.

[@habadasheryjones]

@@Tratatertot Oh no. Someone lacks a sense of humor today. That the postpartum talking or what?

[@dyllan1001]

If there one thing we learned is that artist ruined it for all and vtuber still get treated like crsp

[@Velkin999]

Twitch are such cowards.

[@connorpine9157]

Lol 1 min gang

[@Akimbo411]

This might be a hot take but I would be fine if the government just outlawed any sort of financing of pornographic content online. No cam sites, no Only Fans. Any financial institution processing payments on sites with porn on them should catch heavy fines. Unlimited porn that can be accessed anonymously is clearly too much for humanity to handle.

[@blackjacktrial]

Sure, but why stop there? Also outlaw any kind of anti-government propaganda (treason), irresponsible consumption of vices (alcohol, drugs, video games, violence, procrastination) or social media (leads to mental health issues). The internet should be for corporations, not people.

[@idontknow11829]

Sorry, we don't live in an authoritarian government.

[@Feasco]

would there be some sort of universal basic income that maintains parity with the cost of living so that people wouldn't have to resort to porn or sex work to survive as well?

[@darknyx9876]

From what I heard, the only reason Twitch even did this is because banning softcore is a misogynistic move.

[@habadasheryjones]

Which is weird because its safe to say most of the dudes legitimately watching these tiddy streamers probably aren't fighting the good fight against stuff like misogyny. Just the opposite. So twitch is basically "empowering women" by giving the "tits of GFTO" bros their softcore eye candy.