We Need to Talk About Arena Fighters

[@Globku]

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[@kennyulysse2163]

Where can we see how kill la kill if did ??

[@kennyulysse2163]

His channel is anime based tho but I getcha lol

[@freet6955]

Star Wolf but he reviews anime games

[@danbenjamin2114]

@ This is ludicrous. We have our own thoughts and opinions. He isn't telling us to buy these games, he's telling us whether it's worth our money. It's up to us what we do with that information and that's that. There is no blame because there is no fault.

[@pina6670]

@ First of all, if you dislike arena fighting content, what are you doing on this channel? Second, he didnt told anyone to buy an arena, he told us to buy Kaioken Clothing, nothing more and third, it is not his fault that those bad arena fighters are getting success, its because people get baited by the amount and veriety of characters that are on the game. Seeing your comment proves that you didnt pay full atention to the video

[@Tardioo]

Dante Vs Vergil on Devil May Cry is a better arena fighter than most Spike arena fighters

[@kennyulysse2163]

Man of culture

[@roxel7522]

This

[@Ma_genta]

you just made me realize that the DMC games are basically offline arena fighters

[@Vano_Op]

*Better than any arena fighters I still don't understand why someone didn't copy DMC and try to make it into an arena fighter.

[@polposama2176]

I’ve always looked at DMC like a Arena Fighting Game since there is actually some skill in executing combos, not just auto combo A and auto combo B + supers

[@theprot0m4n]

Imagine a FighterZ styled game with Jumpforce roster. That would definitely sell.

[@Nokl03]

Hell yeah

[@DeftestAphid2]

Honestly if they made it like any 2D fighter, that would be great. Hopefully they could keep their characters in the damn game.

[@ashemabahumat4173]

Suddenly better than 90% of the anime adaptation games out there, tho I'd rather it be like the better arksys games

[@terribletimber8745]

imagine ANY anime with DBFZ style, would sell like hotcakes

[@travisbewley7084]

Look at jump allstars on the DS. It was a fun smash clone. I liked that game so much more then these arena fighters.

[@am_branch138]

"If we all keep buying bad arena fighters, why would they bother with making anything else?" All anime arena fighters devs hated that.

[@Boomer6574]

For the love of god they need to stop giving anime games to Spike Chunsoft.

[@AuraCore]

I agree give some to Plat or Atlas

[@Mulcam29]

Spike does great with games

[@bl4ckf4rmer90]

We need to start a petition to ban spike from making any more anime games

[@SoullZ632]

Phantom's eye No they don’t stop the cap 🧢

[@manovrsb]

We keep buying those trashy games because it has characters we simp for.

[@PapaBerto]

Aside from characters, CAC seems to be a big feature people buy anime games for (no clue as to why) can't even remember how many times I've read a comment saying they got X anime game because they can make a CAC.

[@shaggy8897]

I agree I don’t understand why CACs are so loved, and neither should having CACs make a game better.

[@Menudo4121]

Yeah that makes a lot of sense tbh

[@mohammadmukhtar1666]

A key reason I bought NTBSS was CAC

[@Menudo4121]

@@mohammadmukhtar1666 since i watched this video I think im taking second thoughts of buying jump force tbh

[@BrisketSurge]

I think it's because a lot of people like to self insert into anime and games. I really enjoy character creation, it's one of my favourite game features but I agree people shouldn't value games on having a big CAC.

[@bigredradish]

i am BEGGING you all, you anime arena fighter fans: PLEASE stop enabling "thousands of characters, zero gameplay" games so we can get more experimentation with genres

[@dillongeorge5866]

I get that, but is there a problem if a person actually finds enjoyment in those games? For example, I actually do like playing Jump Force (I know, it’s crazy). I have fun with it. I bought the game, not just because of the characters, but more because the gameplay to me was fun. To prove that I’m not joking, I did not buy One Punch Man because I didn’t like the gameplay, even though One Punch Man is in my top ten favorite anime. I do think Jump Force isn’t that great, but think about it, we had two betas. A lot of the people that bought the game probably had the same mindset as me. The characters interested me to start with, but in the end it was the gameplay that sold me

[@trevinim.5689]

@@dillongeorge5866 Too add on to what you said. When I buy an arena fighter I don't expect to have to do crazy technical combos just to win, it's mostly about relaxing and playing a half way decent game with some of my favorite characters. If the gameplay and visuals looks straight up ass (Like One punch man) then I'm not going to buy it plain and simple.

[@normie7389]

Storm 4 was arena fighter done right same with kill la kill if and mha one justice 2

[@ningensan8198]

@@dillongeorge5866 well at least get them on sale! Think about it if everyone goes with this mindset then they'll just keep making trash games because they sell like crazy

[@Jeanssj98]

@@normie7389 storm is a bad fighting game, every characther plays equal and with only 1 attack Button. It is pretty and that is it

[@Slave-of-the-most-merciful]

Why can't publishers just let well established developers create anime game rather than ones people haven't heard of Dragon Ball Fighterz turned out to be a good game cos the developer can make good games

[@silverbullet1819]

Can't really use fighterz as a example, its dragon ball, Naruto would do just as good because its a big name, thats why arcsys isn't happy with guilty gear and are trying to change it because they want more new people, gg may be a known name for fgc but not the average person, characters sell not gameplay.

[@vovabars1234]

@@silverbullet1819 well to be fair Guilty Gear always was pretty niche

[@vovabars1234]

@Himiko Toga well your opinion but I like it cause every character in the game has their own unique mechanics and playstyle,also graphics in Xrd and upcoming Strive are very juicy Plus the game has a sense of humor

[@silverbullet1819]

@@vovabars1234 exactly gg has depth and gameplay, i personally believe if it was a big named anime it would fly off the shelves rather then being niche.

[@vovabars1234]

@@silverbullet1819 I hope Strive attracts new players,im definitely buying it

[@Animedogfingamer]

We just don’t need a ton. The Ps2 era anime games had sports, rpg, arena fighter, card games, visual novels, etc. Now we mostly get fighters...

[@sonicmaiden2871]

Yeah. Look at the Inuyasha video games. We had a 3d arena fighter, RPGs, party games, a 2d fighter. Not all of them were good, but at least we had the variety.

[@Gizzor]

Development costs went up and not really sales

[@ironshinobi9384]

@@sonicmaiden2871 nah the inuyasha rpg was fun just one big problem with it,it need a map I just keep getting lost (inuyasha secret of the divine jewel nintendo ds) I never finish it because I keep getting lost

[@glonik10]

That's pretty much all games sadly. There's no passion made in games that much anymore. It's all about the money. Look at KI. That game was a passion project. What game actually tests your computer and internet and gives you a rating to see if you should go online or not? I've never seen that before. Iron Galaxu and the guys before them really did go all out making that game

[@youare5907]

@@Gizzor how are you so confident talking out of your ass? Fighterz sold 3,500,000 Budokai Tenkaichi 3 sold 1,040,000 (And this is s competitive game to a more casual game comparison). Xenoverse 2 doubled tenkaichi's sales

[@Matagatsu]

The genre as a whole is honestly a hit or miss sometimes there's alot of character but not enough variety in playstyles, sometimes there's enough variety but not enough fighters its all about balance and some focus on just having fun it al depends on the developer and the anime but it doesn't always go right thanks to low budgets and just Developer Laziness which is what is slowly killing arena fighters

[@Agent1245_]

ninja storm is best example

[@Matagatsu]

@@Agent1245_ exactly ;)

[@Matagatsu]

@@RealGreenQueen same here! It's really good just wish i was better at it though I need more practice 😂

[@heberthswordsman4890]

@@jadenkelly316 Except Xenoverse is Not a arena fighter.

[@danbenjamin2114]

@@heberthswordsman4890 If Xenoverse isn't an arena fighter then what would you call it? I know that it has light RPG mechanics alongside it, but not really enough to change the genre.

[@Darkeclipse2]

I sadly knew Kill la Kill if wasnt going to well financially despite how good it is.

[@sicflo3832]

Yeah it’s just that I wouldn’t want someone to walk in the room and see me playing it 😂

[@michaelmccoy1794]

@@sicflo3832 get your own place man. How old are you?

[@Leonick777]

@@michaelmccoy1794 TF? It's his business lol

[@nageenkhan5979]

Also I’m not a fan of fan service getting in the way of me playing a fighting game.

[@MonkeyDCeddy]

I wish they tried One Piece. With their graphics and creativity, the roster could be very diverse.

[@baneflow]

Kill La Kill small roster outweighs the tons of characters in other fighting games where you literally usually just choose who's your favourite in depth...

[@Tessodan]

Peeped the Persona AU pfp

[@Fizz-Q]

@@Tessodan holy shit it is

[@Fizz-Q]

Also STRANGE JOURNEY IS BETTER THAN PERSONA BYE

[@zenossaki]

You speak nothing but facts

[@DivineeTray]

Kill la kill is a arena fighter made with fighting game mindset and its great yet nobody wants to support that😔like its sad that people prefer to pick games like jump force over kill la kill if

[@Jaymi450]

Budokai Tenkaichi 3 is still my favourite arena fighter. I miss that game

[@Fizz-Q]

Well you have kakarot but yeah it's not the same Also videl was the best character in the game he had a 0-to death on every normal character

[@burlapqueen9090]

It makes me understand more why ur naruto online game will probably never happen

[@brionruss7235]

We have a 1% of hope Michael b Jordan likes naruto the very extremely low chance he funds the game 💀

[@klutchkage8840]

Check out cycles channel he's making a Naruto game

[@burlapqueen9090]

@@klutchkage8840 comment the link

[@burlapqueen9090]

@@brionruss7235 lol

[@Fizz-Q]

Laughs in jojo

[@freet6955]

I would love more rpg games or open world anime games like I’ve wanted a hunter x hunter game where you play as Gon, Killua, Kurapika, maybe Leoria, and some others and go through out the story of hunter x hunter for a long time. HxH has an interesting power system that I think would be fun to use to in a video game

[@husariuspl117]

Well right now Fairy Tail gets an RPG so maybe by supporting it we might get more of these, plus HxH was actually really close to get a game, HxH lost to FT by less then 1 persent (if I remember corectly)

[@freet6955]

FEARnoHATE garbage? You must of not watched it because it is revolutionary in the shou rn genre and derserves a video game more than most anime that do get videogames

[@freet6955]

Husarius pl dang I wish hxh got it but maybe your right about getting more anime rpg

[@marcthomas5949]

A hunter x hunter online multiplayer game where you create your own hunter would be cool

[@eliacesa4549]

Yeah

[@Nini-hm6tz]

And after we have pokken tournament who have both the combat systeme of a arena fighter and a fighting game and switch between them.

[@RanmaruRei]

Yes, Pokken. It would be so cool, if Globku gave it a try.

[@emiliomarbanjr]

"Naruto: The Broken Bond" is one of the most underrated anime games of all time.

[@dangkhoado7428]

Hokuto no ken made by arcsys deserved more than any talk no jutsu boi game

[@UnifiedEntity]

Arena fighters were cool when Tenkaichi 1-3 hit the scene cause there was ....well variety in the combat. So many things to experiment on. Beam clashes and all that. But after Storm 2...you really noticed they werent all that great cause nothing was added to change it up. They just look prettier (to an extent)

[@agenttex5973]

I mean the games past storm 2 added things Hell in revolution I think they added to much which is why 4 Was better since it kinda reverted alot of the changes

[@dcb99filmz]

I heard the Tenkaichi devs left Spike after Raging Blast 2...idk why

[@frostingorb2181]

I actually don't mind One's Justice as far as arena fighters go, especially when compared to the other ones in recent memory (except KLK:IF, that one's good) so I'm honestly interested to see where it can go.

[@klonoa9258]

How come you never talk about gundam versus? It's a competitive arena fighter thats really balanced they have a beta every weekend globku try it out

[@thatmotivatedchris6749]

I second that (Still wish it had offline modes thou)

[@ragnarmeh8156]

Bc its a Gundam game.

[@RasenRendanX]

The game ur talking about is not gundam VS. VS is a trash game with locked units behind DLC. Get ur facts right man.

[@thomasthecoolkid7228]

@@RasenRendanX Uh... Isn't that every fighting game with DLC characters?

[@gokenhayato]

Because full boost/maxi boost on exists

[@retierashia]

“Dammit, there’s no good arena fighters..” *cough* Gundam Maxiboost *cough* Don’t worry I got my mask on.

[@nachos1162]

I got really into mhoj when it released and climbed to rank 8 on the uraraka leader board on pc. I only stopped because the pc player base died. Knowing you do tournaments makes me wanna pick up 2 again and try to enter one if you still do tourneys

[@chosen713]

In conclusion, if a jump force sequel happens without much improvement, don't buy it lol

[@Uvemvanefly]

A+ Games is pretty used to failed games, I think, due to their history with the Little Witch Academia game which wasn't very loved and didn't sell particularly well. I can't imagine Kill la Kill IF did much worse for them and considering they were able to make the two dlc characters at all, it might actually have been better than the Little Witch game. I think that as long as they're partnering with Arc Sys they'll have the money and clout to keep going and hopefully that means that they become a real big name in the anime arena fighter games space. I also think that its important to note that while its obviously an aspect of people buying and preordering games that turn out to be mediocre, I think that the loss of Bleach games is a very illuminating lesson to learn from. People fear that if they don't support a franchise, no matter how shit it is, the games will dry up. Bleach Soul Resureccion sold like piss, it wasn't even released after the anime ended, and it pretty much killed Bleach games. Its up to a combination of consumer pressure AND loud fan support to make sure that anime games go in the right direction going forward. And thanks for using your platform to discuss this, because this is something that not a lot of other people would talk about, for fear of getting on the bad side of companies. Big ups.

[@kennyulysse2163]

Gameover 4 future kill la kill n little witch academy games #feelsbad

[@ningensan8198]

Tbh I would prefer my anime to never get a game if it has to be a shallow arena fighter every time

[@sledgehammersssssquad3624]

@@ningensan8198 Honestly, agreed. The One Punch man fighter is an even bigger embarrassment than season 2.

[@proto245]

Am I the only one that wishes A+ only did the gameplay and CC2 did the presentation and the story? Because I was not impressed by how A+ handled KLK's story mode and how it was a low effort attempt to make it similar to the storm series' story structure.

[@Uvemvanefly]

@@proto245 I really think Kill la Kill IF's story mode was fine. It was a bit rushed and clearly a little unpolished but they nailed the style of the show and the themes with the story despite those issues. I think they deserve a lot more credit than they got. And the fact they did what they did with no experience in anime fighters compared to CC2s decades and with a small budget compared to CC2's ridiculous one should say a lot.

[@TheGuru6447]

The new Gundam Extreme Vs Maxiboost On is absolutely stunning. It's an arena fighter but it does so much with its content that it's worth it. It's an addicting game.

[@returntosender5210]

Darn shame why people aren't even talking about it.

[@iwantanxbox8765]

Arena fighters are the future, if jump force didn’t look like an unreal engine mod it might’ve been good

[@sawkchalk6966]

One of the best anime games I've ever played is Dragon Ball Fusions. It didn't have an emotionally gripping narrative but it had a million characters and a really fun and umique set of rpg mechanics. More of that please

[@reivunrantington9425]

That game was crazy. Still gotta finish it.

[@ethanhunter10]

It really needed to be longer

[@MaskedHeroLucky]

You know what would work very well as an arena fighter? Medabots, the whole series premise is fighting with robots in a competitive format, so much so that a referee shows up out of nowhere for random fights between kids. Give me a Medabots arena fighter with a good story, and great fighting mechanics that revolve around damaging the enemy Medabot’s parts to win, and obviously you fight to get parts to customize your own Medabot. Heck, don’t just use the plot of the anime or whatever, allow the player to customize both their character and their Medabot, just start the game with a decent selection of parts.

[@Next-xm2dh]

Custom robo is a series that literally does that

[@Maury1321dFreitas]

@@Next-xm2dh Nintendo DS GAME?

[@returntosender5210]

If you want a in-depth mech fighting game, play Gundam Extreme Versus for PS4. Over 185 characters, 2v2 action for both online and offline. There's split-screen if you want.

[@MaskedHeroLucky]

@@returntosender5210 Can you pick individual parts to build your own robot?

[@returntosender5210]

@@MaskedHeroLucky No. But there are color swaps and variants of existing MS, modified to become into a new and different over the other. It's strictly a fighting game. It did come from the arcades after all. There is customizable HUDS, titles, select costumes for pilots and navigators that guide you in battle. Here's the total list of MS: g-rwee.ggame.jp/ms_stage/ms.php

[@undeadeye480]

My friend while we playing STORM: Can we play in same team? Me: 😁😐😪😭

[@millennial_weeb2382]

To be honest a Next Generation Storm Game would be 2v2 kinda’ve the idea they already pitched in Storm Rev but that’s not happening.

[@monkmaestro1949]

I hope developers learn from something like dragonball fighterZ it’s an anime game but it’s actually really good 2D fighter or storm 4 that one is a really good arena fighter

[@TrynawalkwithGod]

I hope that the upcoming demon slayer game is a hack and slash like god of war instead of an arena fighter.

[@kvngjaygamez2570]

A hack and slash like god of war or devil may cry would be great, with in depth combos you could use like dante, but honestly it could either be like a pirate warriors/dynasty warriors type of game or just an arena fighter sadly

[@skyblade7438]

@GamingRetrospective No, but it's been implied to be. iirc, the company making it are the same people behind the Storm games and they said in an interview before the game was revealed that they were working on another arena fighter.

[@tarouou4988]

It would turn out like those Warriors Orochi style game

[@Michealxlr]

@@skyblade7438 If it builds on what's in storm 4 then I'm all for it. Not even a fan of the anime but I'd buy the game if it was like that.

[@imaginenation5131]

Dont buy it of it's an arena fighter

[@starforcenetwork]

Hi Globku, if you have the chance, I HIGHLY recommend checking out Gundam Extreme Vs. Maxi Boost On. It's a very niche but well beloved arena fighter that has a strong competitive playerbase in Japan and Asia arcades, and is now coming to the PS4 on July 30! It's an arena fighter done right because we have: - 183(!) playable mobile suits that all play different and yet still stay true to their anime appearances. None of that cookie cutter shit. - A very fast paced and intense combat system. Unlike the usual arena fighters, EXVS is a 2v2 team battle game, where teamwork is very crucial to victory. - Simple controls, yet it all relies on how you react on the match. One mistake can be very brutal. - It's not made by Spike Chunsoft. The dev team behind the Gundam VS games have been handling them for years and have been doing their best to make it as fiercely competitive as far as arena fighters go. We currently have an Open Access beta going on every weekend until launch day. I hope you and other folks to try it out, and spread more word about it!

[@Allomite]

Fuck yea, I wanted to find other games like the exvs series, but it really is the pinnacle of an arena fighter.

[@returntosender5210]

Someone did tell him on Twitter. He said he had too much in his plate. Just baffling.

[@rehanislamnafis4605]

Reading these comments made me realise how many new and young anime fans are here now. They have no idea how hype it was for the community when storm 4 opening was released or when xenoverse 2 was announced. I feel old.

[@kaynebrown8032]

Forget xenoverse 2 the hype leading up to xenoverse 1 was so hype

[@MayHugger]

@@kaynebrown8032 Was it? Really don't remember that.

[@kaynebrown8032]

@@MayHugger at least in my friend group because that game was so cool back then and they did some good advertising if memory serves correctly

[@animebagelnims2333]

spahro gaming yesss

[@gabrielh.a.p9989]

The kill la kill case is so sad to me. I watched the anime because of the game, and I really wanted it to a great success. While I can see that the game is really well done, it's a pity that games like jump force, which is really bad in comparation in my opnion, got more attention, being even nomenated to the best fighting game of the year, it's seens like there was no other game that better fited the position.

[@thomasjensen5028]

I have the Kill la Kill game. It's okay. I wish they had supported it more. The added characters were nice, I just wish there were SOME alternate costumes...

[@kylecomics101]

I booted up for KLK IF for the first time since Mako came out. And I still have to say, the roster is small in the grand scheme of things but I think 12 is perfectly average and they're so much more interesting than any other arena fighter. Im sad we won't get more like this anytime soon

[@gabrielh.a.p9989]

@@kylecomics101 yeah, it truly is disaponting that games like klk if aren't doing well on the sells, even though it is a pretty awesome and well done game.

[@neotokioboi5152]

I feel like there was heart into burning blood. Bad execution. But the creators definitely tried to make a genuinely unique arena fighter.

[@thomasthecoolkid7228]

Yeah. And failed because Logia Guard trivializes everything.

[@avengernaruto1854]

It was fun they put effort you can tell

[@bobbywrtm]

The simplest and the closest thing to shows all those publishers that we are bored with arena fighters is buying that Fairy Tail RPG! If it is blows up, they will realise

[@sundriedtoast259]

Or it will give them the idea to just make an excess of anime rpgs

[@OhThatSkeleton]

@@sundriedtoast259 Doubtful

[@RasenRendanX]

i dont think that game will do much man. It will only get sales from the fanbase.

[@pingucrimson750]

Strider Xanthos yeah it’s not a well written show but I find it enjoyable at times, I wouldn’t say I’m a fan who will buy the game day 1 but I may pick it up because the gameplay looks fun

[@TrulyAmiracle]

I was so hype for it till I saw it's turn based combat, like.. I get that it fits the source material coz FT is basically an RPG in anime form but turn based doesnt do the series justice, a hybrid or action RPG would've been killer.

[@SolessSol]

KLKIF was the last arena fighter that I enjoyed. The game provided the button-mashing thrill that casuals want and also supports the need for a competitive scene for comp players. The roster was limited but during that time I never felt a roster so fleshed out before besides in actually fighting games. The game deserves a bigger spotlight just because it was a better game than most arena fighters but the IP wasn't big enough to carry it. I hope A+ games gets another chance at pushing this genre with a bigger IP in the future. Maybe Bleach? Fire Force? or other great IPs that people enjoy.

[@returntosender5210]

Try Gundam Extreme Versus for PS4. The game has fleshed out mechanics(no tutorial tho) and a huge roster! We also have the GundamExVs reddit page if you want to look for matches.

[@SolessSol]

@@returntosender5210 I've been looking at it & thought about getting it. I actually might pick it up eventually

[@returntosender5210]

@@SolessSol Please do pick it up! Trust me, it is worth it. Just don't play ranked. No one plays ranked anymore. Also, get ready getting slapped in arcade and mission mode. They will punish you good.

[@dillongeorge5866]

Honestly, there are a lot of great arena fighters. From the classics like DBZ Budokai Tenkaichi 3 and Naruto Ultimate Ninja Storm series, to modern day games like One’s Justice 2 and Kill La Kill If. Even Jump Force isn’t completely terrible (it has some fun factor). The next arena fighter tho needs the developers to really take their time to make it a fun game that feels really good to play. Bandai should really listen to feedback more, so that it can be well received. It can be fun, but sometimes it isn’t good. An arena fighter that balances both will be critically acclaimed. The Naruto Storm games are one of the few to be graced with this honor

[@fettywrld4363]

Dillon George The problem with Jump force is that it’s not fun for long. At first u see all these characters and u practice like 2 combos and start playing. It seems super cool at first but after learning that 1 combo all the depth is gone. We need games that can last more than 20 minutes

[@AziSlays]

@@fettywrld4363 agreed. All JF characters play exactly the same minus supers, and the supers have the worst mechanics I've ever seen in an arena fighter. Super armor on everything, terrible balance, a pointless element system, etc. The game plays best when you and your opponent never use supers and go for lots of counters. That never happens online though, so the game is only fun on local play or against friends.

[@leonardofarias8843]

One Justice's 3 needs to have a bunch of development before being announced

[@Jeanssj98]

The storm series only do It well because is Naruto and It have good animations, because its a bad fighting game, every characther plays equal and with only 1 attack Button

[@fettywrld4363]

Michael Giovannetti I mean other arena fighters add other things for more depth. Some characters in the storm games have different projectiles and different jutsus that work a little differently. In jump force everyone kinda has the same things.

[@R-Blazer]

I actually feel like out of every single Arena fighter out there, the My Hero One's Justice series has the greatest chance to be a successful game. You actually encouraged me to buy and play the game. My twin brother and I have amazing times when we play that game against each other. I feel like if you keep these My Hero tournaments going, More and more people are going to buy the game. I love the game to death, and I'm pretty sure if a host of a competitive tournament like EVO saw your tournaments, I feel like we could get a competitive scene going. I'm so confident in My Hero One's Justice, that something like this would happen one day. That is a hope I have near and dear to my heart.

[@thompsonkollie5567]

There’s two types of arena fighters. Ninja storm and the rest of anime arena fighter

[@Animedogfingamer]

Kill la Kill if?

[@Agent1245_]

W

[@jamthatruth4174]

Factual Evidence

[@ricogt7092]

Yep

[@Vulji]

Storm is quite mid gameplay wise, though

[@SecondToNone4198]

The problem is 90% of them are half assed cash grabs selling solely bc of the title only. It baffles me bc when you have the Naruto Storm series, the Budokai Tenkaichi series Etc. THE ACTUAL GOOD arena fighters to take notes from they just don’t.

[@darionkira1362]

I remember master rosh I and going couldn't fly in game cut if u tried u would slowly fall to the ground unless you equipped them with an upgrade to fly

[@ikiliousdasylouiyasbdetyw9124]

The Naruto video games are just amazing. Just great.

[@totalishnc]

@@ikiliousdasylouiyasbdetyw9124 ive played the naruto storm games. theyre good naruto games but terrible fighters. give me another Naruto Clash

[@ikiliousdasylouiyasbdetyw9124]

@@totalishnc They're consistently fun though. They're also anime fighting games which are pretty different from games like Tekken or Street Fighter.

[@fictionalspirit4194]

This reminds me of my favorite arena fighter, Budokai Tenkaichi 3. The game has a surprisingly strong community that's found all kinds of unique strategies and utilizing its large but varied roster to the best of their ability where indeed every character requires some learning to master but because it builds off the previous two games the roster size is still huge. It's just a fun game and even though I like XV2 it doesnt top it for me because Budokai Tenkaichi 3 just has a more fun base gameplay.

[@DICEBOY22]

Naruto Storm was the only one that perfected itself in the Genre.

[@Redxyellow1]

Dude, you literally have a gundam in your name, you know it's Extreme Versus that perfected the genre.

[@Mal-go5dl]

Eh, best thing about Storm is visuals. Gameplay leaves alot to be desired

[@YightLagami]

Good casual game, mediocre fighter

[@sammydray5919]

The only reason the storm series was even good was because it was Naruto, not because the game itself is good. Its the presentation and the anime title thats good, not the gameplay itself

[@Tekeysix]

@@sammydray5919 wrong. the reason why it was so popular is because of the story mode ( boss battles ) and the matches ( mainly against friends ). The game series has many issues but it is the most enjoyable anime game we have.

[@mayonmayonnaise1118]

Gundam vs. and especially the latest one are some of the best arena fighters I’ve ever played

[@Boss-fu7ef]

I'm suprise you didn't mention Gundam maxiboost. It's also one of the few area games that push towards competitive side.

[@returntosender5210]

Seriously, he needs to talk about that game. Needs more love.

[@thronosstudios]

Love arena fighters. It's super annoying when they turn them into restrictive 2D fighters. Arena fighters give you an experience closer to the feel of the anime (if done right, of course. Not all of them are well made).

[@mranvil05]

I want arc sys to make a 2d anime fighter like dbfz, but for a different series

[@tazman4475]

That's what we all want. Bonus points if it's a JoJo fighterZ

[@salva0755]

@@tazman4475 omg yes

[@skyyswaggstudios2934]

Jojo, naruto, my hero, I’ll take any shonen game from arcsys

[@DekuScrub_]

@@skyyswaggstudios2934 JoJo and My Hero 2D fighters would be fantastic

[@skyyswaggstudios2934]

DekuScrub ikr

[@knuckleheadgenius]

How has this channel still not cracked 200k subs

[@theoidums2085]

The funny thing about all this is that there have been games like God hand, devil may cry, Bayonetta, metal gear revengance etc although they would need to balance these games in order to make them fighting games but can become great arena fighters and vice versa where by if they made a solid arena fighter from an anime giving it a story mode like the game's I've mentioned earlier would be possible

[@lapsedilationdrive3943]

As long as bandai is in charge of publishing anime games , we are still going to get a whole lot of them in the future. The bottom line here is the type of studios involved. I believe we might get stellar anime games that have higher budget like titles from square enix, capcom, atlus, platinum games, Japan Studio and more. The problem is that most anime games are either arena fighters ( bamco) and musou titles ( omega force,koei tecmo) some of them are decent while others are rather mediocore.

[@megasoniczxx]

The gundam extreme vs. series is the only arena fighter out there that i'd say is good on pretty much all the fronts you mentioned. Has a very diverse and huge roster (with maxi boost sporting over 180 suits), can do lot's flashy stuff without trying, fun in both a competitive and casual setting and while it's balance could be better, it has a pretty good one in spite of the genre of fighting that it's in. The only issue, depending on who you are, is that it's a 2v2 game first and foremost and while you can do 1v1's, it isn't anywhere near as balanced in that setting as the former game mode is.

[@darionkira1362]

Aren't they making a new game

[@returntosender5210]

2v2 will always be the norm.

[@blairwilliams3311]

Another point people don’t want to do competitive Arena fighters is because of how gimmicky and boring it can be. Not everyone wants to sit and watch a arena fighter gameplay when you have amazing comebacks and wtf in 2d fighting. In arena fighters one move its over

[@zenossaki]

Gundam Maxiboost is pretty good competive arena fighter with a great amount of depth compare to other arena fighters

[@millennial_weeb2382]

Comebacks are great in every game. If you make one mistake in a 2D Fighter, it’s over. Fighting games are reacting in real time to defend & eliminate health bars. Hell in alot of 2D Fighters you literally can’t hit the floor if you make one mistake. You can have an amazing comeback in an arena comeback though I won’t lie 2D comebacks are impressive, because of the mental fortitude/skill required for such a win which isn’t the same in Afs.

[@eunicesun9162]

You should check out Gundam Extreme vs Maxi Boost. Ridiculous name, I know but its game series has been the biggest 3d arena anime fighter in Japan for a very long time and pretty much sets a good example on how you make a game of that genre.

[@supernebula101]

Moral of the story: Dissidia Duodecim needs a console release

[@zakilj3]

Yes but sadly with how they went with dissidia arcade(NT) , look like there are few chances to see a new dissidia console game

[@bboye.musical9349]

I hear you. I hate to admit it but that makes sense. I never really thought about all the elements (politics) that go into making an arena fighter. I’ll be looking at things differently now

[@LunaMinuna]

I do love how the first Jump Stars was a ds jp only smash like game now it’s this. What happened

[@SweetMeat612]

The Gundam Vs series is a arena fighter that needs more love.

[@returntosender5210]

Agreed. I wonder why people aren't talking more about those games.

[@bg-cc6hn]

That transition into the outro was so slick 👌 And its really good to hear someone giving a balanced and nuanced take on this issue Great content as always!

[@melancholy5548]

Jojos bizarre adventure eyes of heaven I still the best fighting game I’ll ever play

[@OlegSpaghetti]

Real recognize real

[@ryangustavo7248]

for me it's jojo all star battle

[@dcb99filmz]

That shit ain't even got local multiplayer

[@majohnbeason7885]

I subscribed a couple months ago and I didn’t think I would enjoy his videos but every time I watch one I remember why I do. This is quality content right here

[@Jammurwott]

One Piece Burning Blood and Kill La Kill if have been some of my all time faves and I'd love so see a blend of those two styles.

[@dfalekulo9138]

Glad someone knows opbb is a gaming marvel with just how much detail there is in there. I feel its a lot more complex than kill though

[@lizard81288]

Too bad the balance was Awful in the game. You could triple okie dokie someone's team or just spam Fujitora gravity move and win. I'm not sure if they've patched it since then, but it was a balancing nightmare.

[@SalemKFox]

I also think Burning Blood had something going. But there was just something holding it back from being truly special.

[@shadowking2153]

lizard81288 strong world ace still makes my blood boil

[@dfalekulo9138]

@@lizard81288 they patched it. Balancing did get a lot better after the first couple patches but a few characters can feel unfair but you just have to know who to use to deal with them and how to do so

[@FMecha]

Would anyone consider wrestling games as sort of arena fighters (especially in WWE SmackDown games, HCTP and older, where you could fight backstage without a ring)?

[@tofu3040]

The best arena fighter I have played outside of the Storm series and Kill la Kill is Saint Seiya: Soldier's soul now it is very budget but it's got passion their is effort in the game but not really any balancing and I still see people play it mostly Hispanic but that's fine the thing came out in 2015 just look into it if you're interested at all I got a friend to get it when the thing was on sale and now she's kind of addicted to the franchise

[@zhaoyun255]

Only good one is Gundam series. Did you know that the Gundam VS has been around and refined for like 19 years since Gundam Federation vs Zeon? And the Arcade in JP got the #1 the moment the Gundam Vs Gundam became competitive 2v2 and since then, many of its update ver. from Next Plus to Extreme Vs dominate in the JP Arcade? The fact was that the Ultimate Storm series TRIED to copy that formula as a 1v1 with Assist for a long time.

[@アンディカ-y5b]

You should talk about Gundam versus series, you know, the actually good anime arena fighters that nobody talk about.

[@AlexAnteroLammikko]

I think Pokken was the closest it ever got to mainstream. Nintendo and Bandai just needs to give that one more go. The problem with that game was it came out on the Wii U first and also that it had a relatively small number of characters and low support time. If they expand the roster, make it a Switch exclusive and add tons of DLC it will be big.

[@datpham3400]

I know a lot of youtubers (papaberto, afrosenju, etc.) and salty fans criticized My hero one justice 2 even before its release and did not even give it a try yet. Like if you think My hero one's justice 2 deserves more love 😁

[@PapaBerto]

Nani? I literally played OJ2 for months. Even went as far as to change my outlook on the game once more info got released. The playerbase makes the game look worse than it actually is.

[@datpham3400]

@@PapaBerto In the beginning, you and afro (I think even PS360HD2) did have negative views about the game, and it is true that you changed your mind later on. But you and afro are pretty popular youtuber, so your action at the beginning really put a bad name to arena fighting games in general and especially this game. I used to like your videos a lot, and I subscribed to your channel because of your funny commentary regarding MHAOJ. But now you rarely upload content for MHOAOJ2, and your vid playing with draco proves that you are not familiar with all mechanics and not enthusiastic about the game anymore. Really hope that you will change your viewpoint and give the game more credits than it should have.

[@PapaBerto]

@@datpham3400 My fights with draco has nothing to do with my understanding of the mechanics. I find certain things about toga specially dumb since the reward for transforming is HUGGGGGGEEEE. I took a break from MHAOJ2 because the playerbase burned me out. I get mentally EXHAUSTED when playing a spamming chisaki, or a player running from me while spamming projectiles despite me having 1 percent health. I like my hero, but HATE the people that play it online. I've even said in my streams that My hero at least tried to make characters feel unique as opposed to them being like jump force that is one size fits all. I have plans to come back to the game, but only when I feel like I can enjoy it. It would be disingenuous of me to play a game and make videos on JUST to please those who want to watch it. This week I will be going back to it to see if I can get back on the wagon.

[@LadyRamkinFP]

Kill la kill if was fun, then they killed all the beginner level combos. If you wan't to do damage you have be a hyper reflex dash cancel master. Fuck that.

[@gh0rochi363]

I want a Baki game made by the guys who make tekken.

[@YourHostElite]

That's pretty much the only reason why Jump Force is still alive is because of the characters I bet that if it was an original idea with original characters no one would ever play it but because it has Goku, Luffy, Naruto, Ichigo, and many other popular characters people still play it even though its not even a good game really

[@Frisboy]

Awww, but Jotaro Kujo choking Yugi Moto is funny

[@King-ml3yg]

I agree with everything said here, we as a community should start expecting a better quality to receive it

[@ArynBacklogDragon]

Not gonna lie, I still like some Anime Arena fighters (like Naruto and My Hero). but yeah... I definitely would like a different genre explored. It's one of the reason why I'm hyped for the Fairy Tail RPG coming out soon. Also, not gonna lie, Kill La Kill IF was pretty disappointing to me.

[@skullythekidd0175]

I'm more hyped for captain tsubasa, and I never watched it, nor like soccer.

[@AuraCore]

there was a game in development 4 years ago. It was finish but they want to push muti-player.that game was Killing bites. Unfornally that extra option made the game be canceled and it so sad.

[@thatmotivatedchris6749]

Try super robot wars V

[@AuraCore]

OttoeCamn Kill La Kill was great but I keep running into spammers so I gave up.

[@AuraCore]

@@skullythekidd0175 So why? #Hypeisoverratted just like Kakorot

[@NY-Buddy]

-Simple, make Tenkaichi 3/Tag-like engine. -Graphics like DBZ Kakorott -Make it so multiplayer POV is like ninja Storm or ultimate Tenkaichi and Jstars if its 4-6players - storymode like DBZ Kakorott but a new story using all the protagonist. Best believe platinum games could do this and make it run at 60frps

[@dekuscorner2983]

I just realized that in Jump Force Aizen has a sword, which is incorrect according to the manga, because after he absorbed the hogyoku his zanpakuto fused with him, which he comments on by saying, "I have become so strong I no longer need a Zanpakuto," because he was no longer a soul reaper, then when he appears again in the Thousand Year Blood War arc, he still lacks a sword and has instead come so far in devoloping his power, probably by communing with the spirit of Kyoka Suigetsu, that now he can manipulate time, and theorhetically anything he sees. Just an observation though

[@sonicmaiden2871]

That shows how much the developers cared about anime. They didn't even got this right. To be fair, I wish that another developer would've made jump force.

[@sampalace358]

If you’ve seen the manga end then you know that he can use it and it’s abilities at will even tho he does not need it. I think that’s why he no longer has its sheath whenever he is drawn in the TYBW

[@Paur]

He was using a sword against Bach. And you have to give them credit; I chuckled at how they nailed the pointlessness of when he casted his Hado 99. In the manga it seems like he casted that hado for no reason, like Kubo forgot about it by the next panel.

[@sonicmaiden2871]

@@sampalace358 oh. I haven't finished reading the manga yet 😅

[@dekuscorner2983]

@@sampalace358 I've read it a few times, though my forgetting that he could use it probably shows just how pointless it is

[@electric_lizzzard]

Devil May Cry 5 with PvP trainer turns this game into best arena fighter

[@Douglasmb3]

they fail to understand how the anime's universe is too big to put into a small arena and throw the characters in it to fight for 3 minutes and with the only a single objective, reduce each other's HP. Dragon Ball Z kakarot, naruto rise of ninja and broken bond are examples to follow.

[@kennyulysse2163]

Kakarot was disappointing 2 me

[@kaez1009]

@@kennyulysse2163 yeah its boring when u finish the story its pointless

[@kennyulysse2163]

There's a multiplayer card game mode coming soon but no news since 4ever

[@kvngjaygamez2570]

Kenny Ulysse idk I thought it was quite enjoyable and pretty good imo but i can understand what you mean

[@Astrothunder_]

Ka ez That’s usually how single player games work. You’re too used to playing games that kill your wallet years after release.

[@mzisaperson7925]

If I were to make an anime game it would have a fighting game multiplayer (prolly arena cause that’s easy for the upcoming single player) with a semi open world single player. The story would either be playing through the show’s plot or a new story (preferably written by the show’s writers but that seems unrealistic) the boss fights would be in an arena but the core levels will be 3D action platformer with a focus on combat.

[@darionkira1362]

Surprised no one has caught on to the fact the arena fighters can help join to genre together

[@q-tips9969]

For those who say first, stop. I have a blue shell

[@thatmotivatedchris6749]

*and i have a 🌟*

[@pinkuyen3018]

@Q-tips 1 Point for Mario Kart reference 1 Point for calling out people who say first 1 point for the genius yet simple line 3/3 Not bad...

[@cheesemaster6796]

I love this comment

[@darionkira1362]

He said stop tho

[@Andrewking-cu4yb]

This is why I love the Fist of the North Star game, it was different

[@mecharobots]

Everyone support kill la kill so maybe they do more dlc .

[@husariuspl117]

I doubt, there was barely any updates recently, plus it's been like 8 months since Mako was added, despite the fact that many people loved or simply liked the game I feel like developers dropped the game which made the online matches pretty much dead, especially on Switch

[@ningensan8198]

Unfortunately, Its too late

[@killpuddle9977]

Why would you want more shit to pay for?

[@husariuspl117]

@@killpuddle9977 DLC in KLK was free

[@mecharobots]

@@husariuspl117 8 months.... wow been that long... it was just wishful thinking but it is a shame the game just fell flat on its face

[@imtheman84]

The only arena fighters I ever cared about were Tenkaichi 3 and Raging Blast 2.

[@endermah5995]

I think more devs for anime games should try 2d fighters. Especially after the success of fighterz, I personally think more anime games should try a fighterz-like format and maybe add a unique spin to it kinda like how fighterz had ki bars and sparking.

[@ToyaKou]

I guess the problem is these games are hard to mkae mechanics wise, and need alot of balance patches or dlc etc the thing is dbz is so well known that the franchise will attract a lot of fans just by its cover, but the gameplay will keep them playing, it's like the perfect mixture

[@sammydray5919]

A lot of fans bought DBFZ because of the dbz brand and that by being 2.5D, it looks very much like the anime and thats definitely going to attract good amount of attention. FighterZ is fun to play and the visual presentation as well as characters made it sure that not only will it bring a LOT of new people, but a good number of them are going to stay. The downfall of MvCi is proof enough that without good presentation, PR and recognizable or interesting looking characters, great gameplay means nothing to most casual players. The problem with arena fighters for me (aside from gameplay aspect) are that by going full 3-D, they lose the anime-esque look and become less flashy and more static. The gameplay also becomes stale quickly and despite having a ton of characters, none of them truly stand out unless the player has attachment to the anime character itself or if its completely broken. The individual characters in these games lack "personality" to differentiate themselves from most of the cast. And this is coming from a guy who only got interested into fighting games because of FighterZ and used to prefer games like Budokai Tenkaichi 3, Storm 3&4, Xenoverse etc. Now I cant go back to those games because they seem to hollow and..... lacking in my eyes.

[@johnnycage6676]

I’m good I rather them do anything besides make dbfz clones

[@Aripuni1]

Quality has a price. They won't be hiring excellent developer like ArcSys if they're not sure the game is going to sell well except a big IP anime game.

[@Aripuni1]

​@BLIND SEE yeah until now, arcys anime graphic has a characteristic that no other developers can imitate

[@Mr_Movie_Fan]

I actually really like the 3d arena fighter genre for Shonen anime based games

[@Ali-mn3td]

For me with every new anime game I say to myself "they got it right this time" and get disappointed again and again but i keep on to that hope because they will someday

[@AhsokaSnipz]

I personally really enjoy the genre and am willing to look past some of the lack of variety if it means having a decent and fun experience with the game. I think some developers who sort of mimic the gameplay of other Arena Fighter games see the sales of games like Storm and Xenoverse and have an 'if it ain't broke, don't fix it' mindset and try to replicate the game and ultimately fail to because of the lack of the IPs being popular. I used to want to make an arena Fighter much like Jump Force because I enjoyed the way the game played (not so much the bad story and the weird realistic direction for the graphical style, just doesn't work when you have Goku and co. shooting energy blasts at people like Luffy, Yugi Muto and Ryu Seiba), but my vision fell flat as I knew that it would just blend into the crowd as many people who play the genre are only there because it's a game based on an IP they love.

[@shman5000o]

Awesome vid! I've had a weird relationship with arena fighters ever since i was kid. Love them when i was ten, but it was hard to for me to have fun with them after seeing how shallow they were in terms depth after getting more into fighting games. I've recently been wanting to give the genre a chance, but boy, is it rough. After playing One's Justice tho, I've become more hopeful now that one day we'll get an arena fighter that pushes it to the next level. Im curious, though. You ever play/check out the Gundam VS series of games(Byking worked on it, same guys who worked on the My Hero One's Justice games!)? Would you consider that an arena fighter? To me they kinda are, but nonetheless, it's a fantastic series with a surprising amount of depth to it's combat system

[@pingucrimson750]

I’d like to see an arc system works game like dragon ball Fighterz but with all shonen jump main characters and a fun story (like Marvel vs capcom but with Jump force). Then they could add the odd extra character from a series for dlc

[@AtreyuSH]

I mean id rather play an arena fighter than getting sweated on in a 2d fighter At least most of the time

[@fluffybunny4891]

True

[@dillongeorge5866]

I feel the same way and I actually like FighterZ a lot.

[@therapeface4153]

getting washed in fighterz is infinitely more fun than putting up with the bullshit in most arena fighters.

[@katzunkaimoto8889]

I actually really love arena fighters! Anime Arena fighters and RPGs are my top two game genres

[@mireldanila2483]

My favorite arena fighter is one piece burning blood

[@Swelu]

😂😂😂

[@AuraCore]

you mean OP Burning Blood.

[@dillongeorge5866]

Good for you. I haven’t heard many people say that before. 😁

[@Warlock-6127]

Check out Mobile Suit Gundam Extreme Vs. Maxiboost On. Releases July 30th. Go to the reddit for more info.

[@banana_split5405]

I want a new Jojo game Plz

[@poysona]

Pleaseeeee

[@hartfantom]

Major Issues with Arena Fighters 1. Over saturation 2. Stiff movement 3. Boring move sets and not very dynamic 4. Lack of innovation This does not apply to all arena fighters but sadly this applies to many.

[@returntosender5210]

Play Gundam Extreme Versus Maxi Boost ON. That will break those issues.

[@returntosender5210]

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[@PunchGod741]

My expectation automatically gets lowered when they mix other Anime’s together. Something about Deku somehow squaring up equally against Naruto just seems unrealistic to me

[@justsomeguywhoishalfghoul8845]

Does yamcha vs jiren seem realistic or videl vs practically anyone else in fighterz

[@fiammaorsmth9840]

fortnite

[@OtakuMav]

Honestly pokken turnament is a great game that isn't smashy and has great moves. Having you switch between arena to normal fighter should be a sed more. It's a great way to make anime games competitive and balanced.

[@kennyulysse2163]

Preach

[@kennyulysse2163]

Smash like game would blow the earth apart imo

[@joseluisgonzalezvalero582]

I realized this a long time ago, which led me to buy Fighterz without even watching dragon ball and letting jump force go because it sucks.

[@Justanidea5976]

I think another issue is the connection companies have to the franchise. The Storm series shows how close the company is to Naruto in that the characters fight differently and the fights and animation look like the character would do that in the anime or manga. The issue with Jump Force is that the characters look like husks when they do their ults and specials. Not sure if I explained that in the best way but I hope it's understandable.

[@iknothatukno]

All these arena fighters, and no rpgs. Smh.

[@AuraCore]

well FariyTale is a persona bassed rpg.

[@sonicmaiden2871]

Naruto and Inuyasha had some RPGs.

[@TGHunter]

What we need is good action mmorpgs..

[@sonicmaiden2871]

@@TGHunter how about all the game genres? I actually would like to see some variety out there!

[@AuraCore]

@@TGHunter yes and not a what-if *coughf* Kakarot

[@KevinSkye1]

The Ninja Storm games illustrated a much better story than the anime and I'm a fan of the Gundam Extreme vs franchise for getting me into different series.

[@Doilem]

JoJo's All Star Battle took a giant leap away from the traditional Arena Fighting Genre and made every character feel unique. Unfortunately, because JoJo was such a small IP at the time, Sales were incredibly low and we likely won't see a proper sequel. Instead, we got a lazy traditional fighter in the form of eyes over heaven, where everyone is basically the same character.

[@jorthebjoestar]

If that game were to come out now, it would have sold more because JoJo is more popular than ever. All star battle came out in 2013 and the anime had just come out at the time

[@scrubthegod780]

I don’t think eyes of heaven is lazy?? I think every character is unique in their own way can you give me why you say that cuz now I’m wondering

[@returntosender5210]

Play Gundam Extreme Versus Maxi Boost ON for PS4. One of the better arena fighters out there.