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[@teamnovember5594]

I agree. There's nothing wrong with the direction they decided to take, per se. It's just not the Skyrim competitor that a lot of people thought it would be. Glad we know that ahead of time, at least.

[@eternal7912]

Tbf, Obsidian even said a while ago that it wasn't meant to be their Skyrim, so I think some of this, "its not the Skyrim competitor I hoped," line of thinking is honestly just foolish. That said, I would have preferred they went with a full open world game, as that is the kind of RPG I crave more of.

[@teamnovember5594]

@eternal7912 "foolish" is way too strong a word. You can't blame people for thinking (or hoping) that after the first teaser trailer. Plus, it was originally going to be comparable in size and scope to Skyrim. It wasn't until more recently that they announced the project would be "scaled down."

[@Tazza19931]

@@eternal7912 Why is that foolish? That makes no sense. When this game was originally relvealed, it had a completely different tone and it was being talked about by Obsidian themselves as being their own Skyrim, in terms of scope and scale. The purpose of a reveal trailer is to convey to the potential playerbase what the developer is going for. Obsidian then realised that they were biting off more than they could chew. They altered the tone from the first reveal, and scaled everything back. Wishing that it was still going to be that big Skyrim competitor is not "foolish". Whole thing just feels like a big disappointment to me, personally. But it is what it is, and I am glad that there are still lots of people who appreciate their new direction and what they're going for.

[@ThatOldIcedTea]

It was foolish because outer worlds wasn't fallout. They already set the precedent of differentiating their games from bethesda. (Maybe unreasonable is an easier word to swallow.)

[@mistersparkles1842]

​@@Tazza19931 Just backing you up so you know you're not alone- the art change is devastating, it looks way too cartoony. Secondly, Obsidian is riding the coattails of Kotor 2 and New vegas, which admittedly are god-tier games- but their recent catalogue is very lackluster- the Outer Worlds is literally bad. Thirdly, there is nothing wrong with expecting a Skyrim competitor with New Vegas depth. THAT IS WHAT WE WANT.

[@Tallenn]

I'm glad I'm not the only one who feels like there's just something "off" about the combat. It seems almost like very old tech, kind of like it's closer to Oblivion's combat than Skyrim's, when you'd expect it to look _more_ modern than Skyrim. Additionally, the part about "scaling back" has me a bit worried. The biggest issue I had with Outer Worlds was that it felt like half a game, like it seemed the story was just so short, yet it was still marketed and priced as a full priced AAA game. I worry that the same might be true for Avowed.

[@andycampbell8622]

I thought I was crazy everyone was upselling outer worlds. I thought it felt like half of a game from last decade

[@Kross415]

As much as I love Obsidian I hate to say the game looks very mid in every aspect. Let's hope the game ends up being better than it seems.

[@beepy9666]

The overall saturation needs to be dialed back. It feels overly... cartoonish, for lack of a better word. Like this art style would be better suited in Fable 2. The game world feels like it'd be something for Ratchet & Clank. The gameplay almost "feels" borderline Sea of Thieves. I was super-hyped for this but now I'm perfectly fine giving it a very hard pass. I'm far more excited about Grim Dawn's upcoming expansion.

[@Ahglock]

I never had too much hype because I did not care for the outer worlds. In the first cinematic I thought it looked cool but I was worried after the outer worlds that it would be flooded with poop joke level humor. The more I've seen the less enthused I have got. I'll give it a shot, but i have game pass so it will be free. I usually still buy games i am hyped for even if they are on game pass.

[@based-ys9um]

People who have game pass are the vegans of the gaming world

[@CrniWuk]

I believe this will be a mediocre game. Not only from the visuals they have shown so far, which really feel outdated. But simply because Microsoft took the company over. And I do not think this will lead to a good result. Lets face it. Obsidian never was great with "visuals" really. The games they made always looked mediocre. But they had really good writing and ok-gameplay. That is, when their studio was still independed. When they had creative freedom. That is gone however. They are not their own studio anymore. So I do not expect this to go well.

[@js100serch]

DUDE!!, stop apologizing for having an opinion!!, two minutes into the video and you have apologized like 3 times. It is your opinion, of someone doesn't like it, too bad for them, so what?, only positive opinions are acceptable, otherwise you have to be constantly covering your back?. The psychological damage the internet has done to content creators.

[@josephjordanwatkins3431]

Shush 🤫

[@jameslindsay5889]

I love PoE but I've never been interested in Avowed. Wasn't big on Outer Worlds either.

[@paulwieber2067]

I wanted to say it reminds me of a first person fable more than skyrim

[@micahsean8664]

Combat looks a little wonky, which is fair considering the game is unfinished, but I'm certain everything else will more than make up for it (assuming they dont fix it before launch) This is Obsidian afterall. Have faith. Or don't. No one's gonna force you to buy it.

[@Juice5522]

Your opinion seems to be a popular fad on the internet. Not hearing anything new from you that I haven’t already heard 1000x since trailer dropped. I think you will be pleasantly surprised at the game as a whole when it’s finished.

[@pigeon3492]

For me the graphics/environments look great, but I think what has killed the hype for me has been the gameplay and the dialogue. The combat looks so damn clunky and it does remind me of a VR game. When it comes to dialogue I am seeing signs of it trying to be a little quirky (for lack of a better term) like The Outer Worlds and that is very worrying for me because the dialogue in that game became a little overbearing with how how often characters would either be really stupid or dense. I hate that I feel this way but I am just not looking forward to this game anymore and I hope that changes in the future.

[@TheCorpsehatch]

Oh, damn you know it's a serious video when it hits 10 minutes in length.

[@TragicaISpark]

The change in tone was a let down for sure, it really seems it went from a cool big Skyrim like style into possibly very tiny zones with oversaturation like The Outer Worlds which I didn't like, also I wonder if the magic is only through wands now, maybe I missed that but the original casting of spells looked cooler (maybe just spells or abilities now idk), I'll give it a shot but at this point I'm most looking forward to using dual wielding anything as well as sword and pistol dual wielding looks cool.

[@TheRealist1.]

Hard to say that I saw anything to damper my excitement for the game.

[@Untegridydale02]

The gameplay is stiff like elder scrolls online when you hit enemy’s

[@Bronkowitsch]

Pillars of Eternity was dark and brutal. This looks like a fantasy version of Outer Worlds. I don't like it.

[@bohannon2692]

Deep down we all want big ip rpgs. Star wars, fallout, elder scrolls, game of thrones, super hero open world rpgs. Why cant we get this stuff instead of crap games. Just like outter worlds they said its not some game you can put hundreds of hours into i have a feeling obsidian gonna make smaller games now which is a shame but tbh. i couldn't put hundreds of hours in this world even if you could. Just looks trash

[@waketp420]

Characters seem completely soulless with those voices. The characters look like they went through a randomizer, and the combat looks so dated. Its a shame because the world's look amazing to explore.

[@MrUploader14]

First this game is still in an alpha state, secondly they most likely channeled the audio through mono channel. Hogwarts legacy did the exact same thing for its trailers and it turned out to be better. Every time gamers get shown CGI and think that's what the final result is going to be and every time they get disappointed its comical at this point.

[@waketp420]

@@MrUploader14 This wasn't cgi, this was all in game lol But besides that, I wasn't talking about the mono vs stereo with the audio. The voice acting doesn't match the characters at all. The character models look like they went through a randomizer. You can say it's alpha all you want, but how many times have we been told it's alpha footage, and the game still releases like shit? Lol Your combat doesn't change the combat looking boring.

[@MrUploader14]

@@waketp420 I referring to the original CGI trailer that was shown in 2020 that people keep referring you myopic mouth breather. And it's pretty obvious you were never going to play the game from the beginning. And you like looking at games rather than playing them.

[@maximiliangonzalez3915]

I feel the opposite from most of the commenters. The reveal trailer felt boring to me. We have more than enough dark, grim fantasy games. When the gameplay trailer dropped showing a colorful fantasy world that seemed weirder than your standard fantasy world, I got much more excited. Of course the fact that the game has been scaled down is unfortunate and the combat we see in the videos doesn't seem amazingly polished, but I'm still really excited to see what the game has to offer. I don't mourn the fact that we're not getting yet another dark and grim RPG, and that's coming from a huge dark souls fan.

[@mistersparkles1842]

That's dishonest- we don't have a lot of dark gritty expansive skyrim like rpgs, in fact we have one in the last 15 years, Skyrim. If I'm generous enough to include the Witcher, then we'll include the Witcher (Even though it's a predefined character, and people want a create a character) Souls games are not immersive sandbox RPG's- they have bare level questing and are just about builds and boss fights. Obsidian openly marketed this as a Skyrim competitor- it was even said a such. Now it's sea of thieves.

[@maximiliangonzalez3915]

@@mistersparkles1842​​⁠ I said “we have enough grim fantasy games” without mention of any specific style or genre. Didn’t say anything about Skyrim or things similar to it. Despite its massive popularity, there aren’t many games like Skyrim period. But overall, tons of dark fantasy games. Nothing dishonest about my comment. I am admittedly obsessed with Souls games but I’m glad this particular game didn’t keep the vibe of the reveal trailer. I’ve played the hell out of Skyrim already. I don’t want to play a clone and I don’t want to explore any more grim medieval Europe clones.

[@BuddhaCheeseBand]

Same

[@Seer_Of_The_Woodlands]

Great Video !

[@Light-YT]

Thank you!

[@xsoundofsil3nc3x96]

Oof, L take. This game looks incredible, one of my most anticipated of the year

[@Detac3]

Looks more like eso than skyrim 🤮

[@sonjaR2]

You just summarised my own feelings on Avowed. The more that is revealed of the game, the less excited I become.... which is a shame, because I generally enjoy Obsidian RPGs. I'll give Avowed the benefit of the doubt at least until release, and I genuinely hope it ends up being a good game that is well received, but at this point my enthusiasm is definitely muted.

[@Johnnyupside]

Prepare for another Outerworlds. Btw I struggled to remember the name for that game

[@NostalgiaNet8]

The thing that sorta surprised me was how bland the melee combat looked, it didn't look impactful enough.

[@cendresaphoenix1974]

Vermintide 2

[@chrishance7604]

First person melee is very hard to pull off

[@eliteextremophile8895]

​@@chrishance7604especially when you're using rpg mechanics and not real life fight simulation mechanics.

[@meodrac]

​@@eliteextremophile8895 For RPGs, I find that the system in Dying Light 1 works, upgrades are rarely just numerical and additional effects but whole new maneuvers becoming available or more viable allowing for more skill expression and achieve a certain power fantasy eg. adding a dash+riposte option with greater maneuverability allowing you to fulfill a dashing fencer archetype climaxing to a finisher and step back maneuver this being single player allows for more freedom for the devs in creating/allowing mechanics like slow mo sadly, this game is too far into development for changes of this level

[@matthewflores4183]

It looks boring and unpolished. The voice acting is extremely unprofessional sounding and looking. The gameplay looks pretty mundane and honestly not that interesting. I bet its going to come out and people will flock to it like blind chickens and then stop talking about it after like a week or two just like starfield. That or its going to be forgotten before it even comes out which is already looking to be the case. Im more hyped for indana jones which imo is a good thing because i personally love indana jones and grew up watching it as a kid.

[@andrez76]

I've got similar feelings. I'm very disappointed by the shift in tone from that original cinematic. I'm not fond of this oversaturated graphical style. In fact, that was one of the reasons I didn't like Outer Worlds. I will have to wait to see more gameplay, but I find it hard to believe they'd be making adjustments to the art direction they've chosen.

[@asum7786]

The best way I can put it is that the teaser Trailer way back looked like a gritty, deep PC RPG - and this new gameplay footage looks like a blindingly colourful, floaty, console action adventure. For those who like that kind of thing, great - but it's not for me, and not what I was excited about. I wrote much the same, except in more detail, under Obsidians Video, but it appears they privated that after it got tons of productive criticism in the comments, just for it to be reuploaded with suddenly majority positive ones. Save to say, despite still hoping for the best ofc, my excitement for the game has died down almost completely.

[@jamieo8840]

looks like a 3d pillars of eternity to me, which the game is based on

[@asum7786]

@@jamieo8840 PoE was fairly gritty with a lot of pretty dark set pieces - imagery like the Hanging Tree, the Old City and various engwithan ruins come to mind. PoE 2 overall was brighter, yes, but I also liked that a lot less in theme and setting than the first one. Also colour details to break up an environment work a lot differently for a D2 backround which you quickly scan over than in a 3D space, where it's a lot more.. well, in your face.

[@asum7786]

Granted, this is a new, never before seen, region, so they can do pretty much whatever with it, especially given it's established lore. I'm just not really digging the feel of it. But what they have shown in terms of the animations and combat is of even bigger concerns to me than the vibe of the world. But that at least has a decent chance of still seeing fairly significant improvements until release.

[@tsoii]

I had the exact same reaction when I saw the gameplay trailer, the teaser trailer looked sick, but the gameplay trailer was just not what I expected, it was way to vibrant and looked almost plastic-y, it heavily reminded of the sea of thieves artstyle, which works great for a pvp pirate game, but doesn't work at all for a single player RPG imo,

[@jamieo8840]

@asum7786 animations was my complaint also. There are times where the enemies are attacked in the reveal where there is no physical response to being hit, or the hit animation is the same every time. I'd like too see physical representation of damage done as well. You hit a guy in the shoulder with a sword and there should at least be a wound or if by a fire spell there could be scorch marks

[@Seer_Of_The_Woodlands]

it's hard for me to say how to feel about Avowed... so it looked better than what the first teaser looked like, but the attacks seemed pretty slow... the best I can say about it right now is that it's like skyrim but better looking?, but at the same time the mods (which are free) make Skyrim look almost as good if not better. they talked a lot about the combat mechanics but it just reminded me of skyrim but somehow seemed slower ? it's pointless to talk about the story and the effects of the decision until it's released... but the fact that the playable races are only humans and elves is a strange choice, at least for me, in the world of Eora there are much more interesting races that would certainly have made the game more interesting.

[@Seer_Of_The_Woodlands]

i mentioned skyrim because this game was originally supposed to be their take on skyrim, but then they scaled down their game.

[@justinmusselman5705]

My main issue is the terrible voice acting. And the voices don't seem like they should be coming from that npc.

[@eternal7912]

I found the latter point to be pretty common in Pillars of Eternity 2, particularly in regards to the Aumaua characters. Many of them just did not sound right. I loved that game, but that's something that always bugged me.

[@Skegfromcraigslist]

Modern day speak with Californian accents. Also the current day hairstyles, not good.

[@ecargfosreya]

They sound like they rounded them up off the streets of there USA’s cities

[@mistersparkles1842]

@@Skegfromcraigslist Immersion is not allowed anymore- everything has to be 2024, there is no escape in escapism. Everything needs to feel like you're getting lectured in a Starbucks

[@Knottypine79]

Pretty spot on, feel the same. The very first cinematic made me a bit excited for it, and as time went on and more was shown, hype just dropped. The latest one just looked stiff. Dialogue with the NPC's was just off. The animation felt off, bland, and dated. The tone seemed much too vibrant from what I was expecting. And the way they described the combat system 'they' developed for the game is literally nothing new from other games in the last decade. This is a wait and see.

[@LANDR3ZZY]

I feel like avowed has just been screwed by its marketing. The first inital traller set up a dark tone, the gameplay reveal didnt have a dark tone leading to disapointment, and with this trailer at least for the dialouge, it feels poorly spliced together and along with missing context lesding to the dialouge feeling like shit

[@C_hef]

I agree with this. The showcase they gave us was not great. The side quest seemed pretty low stakes as far as the worldbuilding goes, and didn't really show off their dialogue system properly. They needed to have a full section of running through a more engaging quest, in my opinion.

[@glowinTHX]

I has the exact same art style that Pillars of eternity. For me, it turned out better than expected.

[@erminioottone1344]

​@@glowinTHXI liked what i saw of Avowed, but this is just false. PoE 1 has a really mature tone and the art style is grittier and darker than this, a loooot darker. Avowed tone and art style seems relatively similar to PoE 2, that was already a bit brighter (aestethically) and lighter (as for the writing) than the first one. But, and this is an idiot mindset that fantasy and rpg fans have ever since Game of Thrones, darker doesn't mean better. So to me personally isn't a big deal, probably people are slightly underwhelmed because of the cgi reveal trailer, that definitely suggested a dark fantasy RPG game.

[@amethystwyvern]

​@@glowinTHXno it doesn't it's The Outer Worlds Art style not Pillars.

[@ZeSgtSchultz]

The combat looks like a slightly polished up ESO. And ESO combat puts me to sleep

[@preslim84]

rebirth and dd2 are the most anticipated rpgs, not this lol

[@mrqeufeus]

Had the exact same thoughts when I saw the trailer last year compared to the teaser. Loved how gritty and real the teaser looked, this looks too stylized and colorful.

[@pelmeni_va]

I liked the gritty style of the original reveal trailer, it's unfortunate that they made it this... let's say bright? I dunno, I'm just not interested in Avowed as I used to be, so I understand!

[@alfie6102]

It doesn't seem to match the Pillars of Eternity universe

[@alfie6102]

@Mike313H Too, vibrant but maybe it's just me

[@mistersparkles1842]

@@alfie6102 it is not just you, bro- it is very, very obviously the polar opposite of pillars of eternity. Yes, Pillars of Eternity has some color- but the tone is extremely bleak, there is a tree of hanged people two minutes into the first game. Avowed is extremely cartoony. What the heck happened here? Haha

[@camraid9]

I agree... It looks like play-school. Kiddie time.

[@giancarloszayas7197]

what is this game's story about? can you play as a female mc? is exploration and combat done only in 1st-person? can you play a pure mage from the begining ,no melee?

[@samexoldx]

Outdated cartoony trash

[@captbloodbeard]

Avowed completely ditched stats and skills, and instead its just a perk system like Skyrim. That's the final straw for me. This went from being my most hyped game since it was originally announced, to me probably avoiding it completely. I thought Obsidian would be one of the last devs to still embrace real role-playing mechanics because they gave us PoE, but they've abandoned that completely.

[@mistersparkles1842]

We all await a Skyrim competitor with New Vegas depth; but I don't think we'll ever get it.

[@captbloodbeard]

@@mistersparkles1842 it may happen 10 to 20 years from now as a retro game like Pillars of Eternity was.

[@mistersparkles1842]

@@captbloodbeard i can see that, advancements in AI will make asset creation significantly faster, that's the biggest bottleneck in games like this. So in the future a small team could pull this off.

[@PowerSenpai]

At least Owlcat and Larian still makes real RPG's. They are a saving grace in today's market.

[@recur9245]

I like it I don't see a problem with perk system

[@stuartrumbel5222]

Yeah, I lost interest pretty quick after the first gameplay trailer. Too pretty and colourful, reminded me of the Outer Worlds, which was okay, but kind meh.

[@stijnvonck1431]

The magic wand looks super silly for a game like this. Three years ago we got a glowing hand, not a Harry Potter kids wand

[@ecargfosreya]

I know. The wands just fine seam to fit

[@stijnvonck1431]

@@ecargfosreya the dual wands to me look out of place

[@chrisluvener173]

The player can use magic with their hand as well rewatch the gameplay. You can see instances of using magic with their hand

[@ecargfosreya]

@@chrisluvener173 when they’re doing that it looks really good I just don’t get why you would throw wands into that formula as well. It’s like having the force and magic in the same universe.

[@chrisluvener173]

@@ecargfosreya they probably function differently each having some benefit.

[@abraxis59]

While I did like the Outer Worlds more than you did, I 100% agree with your feelings about Avowed. I am going to pinpoint exactly my concerns: 1. Art style - I have no problem with all sorts of art styles. So, I generally don't care about graphics. However, this game has a rare problem: mismatched art styles. The realistic backgrounds and the weak basic enemy models is VERY jarring and distracting. 2. Interface - the dialogue interface looks odd and clunky and makes me concerned about interface design 3. Floaty combat - I agree combat animations look poor and, on top of that, there does not seem to be any combat feel. You hit something - it falls over, you blow it up - it falls over, you smash it with spells - it falls over. Each of these things alone is not super concerning as most could be fixed, but there is not much time left and more importantly, all of these things together make me feel like the overall design of the game is a bit rudderless or lost. THAT would be very hard to fix.

[@mark-uu1ve]

You hit the nail on the head with this, the announcement trailer made me thing of a lord of the rings type of world style, but the gameplay trailer reminds me of the fable game worlds

[@Alien_isolationist]

I'm still not seeing 5 games that would make me drop $500 for an Xbox. Gunna stick with Sony for awhile I think.

[@Terron29]

Agree 100 percent. To be fair it was never gonna be my thing really as I have little interest in first person melee combat and the idea of using wands does not appeal to me in the slightest. (Gimme a damn staff lol) but I was expecting a much darker and frankly less clunky spell casting game. Hope its good and people enjoy. I really like obsidion but this does not appeal. Love pillars of eternity 1. Hopefully with the massive BG3 success maybe we get a pillars 3. :)

[@panzrok8701]

Im currently playing pillars of enternity 1 and i like the dark and gritty tone much more than this disney comic style.

[@archangelgabriel5316]

The game play trailer looks like a flower bed...not the gritty cool looking rpg the original vid showed. Pass.

[@504Trey]

I love the vibrant fantasy graphics... my only issue was how weak the enemy A.I combat look.. it look like they just stand around brainless & dont even really attempt to attack u & when it do show them attempt to attack u it look weak & slow... i dont know if they had the difficulty level on very easy or not but I've seen other games get played with the difficulty level on very easy & the enemy A.I still put in more attack effort than that 💀

[@Velly2g]

You actually think they would turn up enemy AI when they're trying to show combat? LMAO

[@juliusfishman7222]

Yeah noticed that too, they're trying to make the combat easy so anyone can play that's the same think they did for skyrim hence the non existent combat system in it, I don't like slow combat.

[@richardreyes6119]

I watch 5 reviews and then view trailers and based on that accumulated information I decide if I wanna save 70$ or not, this is looking like a not lol

[@SyIis]

Ew I've never understood people who just took reviews telling them what to play You can get a refund on anything on Xbox and PC easily in the first 2 days to 2 weeks and less than 2 hours playtime unless the game is known to be broken after launch by everyone. Idk about ps5 I haven't returned any games on mine yet considering I knew what I was buying before I bought a ps5

[@SyIis]

I've always found people who let other people form their opinion on if they'll like a game or not to be people missing out on tons of titles. There's been plenty of badly reviewed games that ended up being a gem to me. Popular channels are just normal people who can have bad takes on gaming, it's extremely common for them to jump on a bandwagon like everyone else. Avowed first trailer definitely made everyone, including myself, overly excited for a game that was never being created to begin with.

[@GrimGianni]

After seeing gameplay, not hyped. Looks childish, and not gritty.

[@eternal7912]

I personally like the art style and am still hyped about this game. I think one of the things I'm most excited about is the magic. That said, there is something about the gameplay that seems off to me. Maybe its just too stiff and snappy.

[@chilbiyito]

Basically The Outer Worlds but fantasy setting

[@guillaumeinjjuz1744]

IMO it look amazing!! Im so hyped dude this gonna be a masterpiece of obsidian genius !

[@Djaym0]

i get how you feel man. I was excited too from that first teaser, i thought, kool xbox is making a dark rpg that will be awesome. and now it almost doesnt even feel like its a real RPG. it feels like a demo for one. and i think thats xbox getting them to change their vision of the game from a skyrim-like rpg to the cookie cutter 15 hr game that kinda resembles an rpg but anyone and their grandma can pick up and play. like even when you watch the deep dive. its like ok this isnt an rpg. this is just a sandbox grounded kiddy game. like even core elements of a rpg arent even present here. I have no faith in this game at all.

[@mistersparkles1842]

There is a hunger in the air for a deeper Skyrim type game; I used to think some dev out there would take up the cause, but I now think it'll never happen.

[@AlexD-os8hw]

What did they do? It looks like a mobile game! Yuck!

[@Ranziel1]

It will be Outer World: Swords Edition. It will be mid, but enjoyable if you're into that kind of games.

[@Blazer-RPT]

Yeah I'm with you on this one I was really hoping for a Elder Scrolls type experience The Avowed ain't it 👎🏾I'm definitely disappointed 😕 however The Outer Worlds 2 sounds more promising I can't believe they ruined the potential of a Skyrim type RPG 😔

[@MrKidKiedis]

Dunno.. To me new trailer looks way better than previous one. Seems they found some feedback on colors and made some changes. Still guns and goblins look a bit strange and I'm not a huge fan of Obsidian (think it's overhyped because of one clunky mod they've made). But I would like to see some more info.. might be a good game.

[@lovestospuge666]

People can say whatever they want about me but the no romances thing killed any hype I had.

[@damiansmithey1420]

Why cant a game company go with the classic fantasy style, the classic castle look with skeletons and the iconic wizard and knight looks woth traditional style lore and monsters.

[@bigdaddynero]

Dragon's Dogma, man.

[@damiansmithey1420]

@@bigdaddynero I'm gonna check that out.

[@bigdaddynero]

@@damiansmithey1420 Update me with your opinion

[@mistersparkles1842]

@@bigdaddynero Dogma is one of my all time favorite games- but it's about monster killing, it has little to no RPG elements at all , period. The hunger in the air is for a deeper Skyrim.

[@bigdaddynero]

@@mistersparkles1842 What are you even talking about? Did you read the same comment I read?

[@dunkelwalde695]

Way too bright and colorful for me. That may appeal to a lot of people, but I myself, and I think many others who were looking forward to this game, were hoping for something more "gritty." This looks like a Marvel movie.

[@misanthropicattackhelicopt4148]

Its for the fortnite crowd.

[@mistersparkles1842]

@@misanthropicattackhelicopt4148 Who won't play it; weird times where no industry will appeal to its fanbase anywhere anymore.

[@danzanares]

Honestly I wasn’t expecting avowed to be mind blowing gif you remember most if not all of outer worlds hype was either obsidian beat Bethesda to starfield or people acting like it was made as an insult to fallout 76 to the point even obsidian was disappointed my it

[@LostInDistance]

I felt exactly the same watching the latest trailer. In the original trailer, it looked dark and moody. Had that gritty look to it and had that eerie feel to it. The latest trailer is the complete opposite to what I was expecting. Definitely disheartening to see..

[@Velly2g]

This is funny because 2 years ago they released a statement saying everything this game was and the trailer they showed last summer was exactly what they said it is. You guys wanted it to be Skyrim but after Microsoft bought Bethesda I'm sure Microsoft told them to make it simple just to get a game out for Game Pass.

[@LostInDistance]

@@Velly2g I was never expecting another Skyrim, I was though however expecting a different take on the game than this. A statement I knew nothing about to be honest with you? I’ve seen the original trailer and that was all. Looked something potentially exciting. But as Light put it, we’ve instead got a weird cartoony art style that just doesn’t look like it fits well. Game mechanics to me look dated and clunky. Nothing I’ve seen in this latest trailer looks exciting or different in anyway. Just isn’t the direction I was expecting. Guess I was hoping for a more serious take on it as it looked on the original trailer, as I mentioned above a more serious gritty take on it. This for me would be like picking up Fortnite and playing that. It’s okay and you can have fun on it, with its bonkers art style. But you just can’t take it seriously. This Avowed has that vibe to it for me.

[@Velly2g]

@LostInDistance since 2021 they been saying the game is bright and full of color. I guess you didn't read the leaks. The game director is a woman so i don't know where people got this darkness shit from. Before the trailer came out all these monsters were leaked on youtube. I'll judge the game when it comes out.

[@LostInDistance]

@@Velly2g The original trailer looked dark and gritty, that’s where most people got the darkness from I’m guessing. All I’ve seen or heard about was the original trailer a few years back. Nope didn’t read any leaks. I’m sure it’ll still be a fun game. Just not expecting anything amazing or original from it.

[@amethystwyvern]

Getting rid of classes for this load out system hurts so bad. I want to play pure mage and I don't know if I can. Are there even any spells in the game that aren't mapped to an ability button?

[@Explosive0Diahrea]

My assumption is that it will be similar to Skyrim, because I think it's evident to them that everyone very much wants another Skyrim. With that in mind, in Skyrim you very much are encouraged to specialize in something, but depending on the difficulty, you may find it wise to have some backup equipment. Say if you're a mage but you're running out of magic potions, you might switch to a physical weapon to dispatch some enemies. Or what I assume they might be doing here as well is experimenting with enemies having resistances that encourage you to use multiple attack styles. Say if you're a mage that walks into a valley of Magic resistant lizards, it's better to switch to a sword and board. If they go that route, a well rounded character might be better for higher difficulties, but I'd imagine you could still main as one class in others. Also I played a bit of the first PoE, and it seemed to include multiclassing as a requirement, so that might also just be the PoE flavor, a character that is not just 1 trick.

[@MrDiabeeto]

As a lover of Skyrim I get more excited the more gets released.

[@Elayzee]

They claim that they’re going for Fat Shark’s “Warhammer 40k Darktide/Warhammer Vermintide 2” for its melee combat. And if that preview of Avowed at the Developer Direct is anything to go by….they have a very, very, VERY long ways to go before even starting to approach Vermintide 2/Darktide’s combat. The combat they showed was truly embarrassing to watch in the footage they showed. Bad animation all-around too. I thought Avowed was supposed to be Obsidian Entertainment UNLOCKED with Microsoft’s full backing and….they decide to do another “Outer Worlds” sized game instead? Weird choices.

[@elijahtronti8574]

Very fair. I was extremely excited with that first teaser years ago. Now I can only say I’m a little excited. I am certainly very hopeful and optimistic for the game, but I think it’s pretty clear that it will not be delivering the exact same product as was originally advertised. A lot has changed- and some changes might even be for the better, but changed nonetheless. And- maybe this is nitpicky and stupid- but my hype started to truly fade once I heard that there will only be two playable races to choose from. Customizing my character and race was one of my favorite things to do in Skyrim (and most other rpgs) and I knew that Avowed’s predecessor games provided several unique, awesome-looking, and lore-rich races to choose from. So it kinda sucked to wait literal years to hear more about avowed only to find: change in tone, art style, map size, and even character customization. I’ll mooooost likely still be playing Avowed as well, but I’m not nearly *as* hyped. Games like Dragon’s Dogma 2 are really starting to overshadow Avowed for me.

[@chrismtauer]

So the reason I am still hype for this game is because I have actually played both Pillars of Eternity I and II. If you enjoyed Baldur's Gate III, go ahead and try those two games. The world is phenomenal, the mechanics are ripped straight from D&D, and the build possibilities are crazy. I'm excited to see all of those mechanics in a first person game. Basically, imagine a BG style real time first person game. As clunky as it looks, I still have faith. But, yeah, I hope they give a better presentation soon because this is not how they should've showcased the game.

[@shaunrobinson4614]

I like the idea of there being a smaller world. A lot of games for the past several of years have worlds that are far too big. By making the game smaller they make it feel denser and focus on making fun quests rather than making content that just exists to fill up the unnecessary space.

[@davidsalazar2077]

Another thing that I'd say really hasn't helped their somewhat seemingly lacklustre showcases of this game is the complete lack of music in them. Not all good games have killer soundtracks (look no further than New Vegas, pretty freakin' good game but no one remembers it for its soundtrack, and no the real life music from the radio doesn't count), but I've very rarely seen a game with a stellar soundtrack be bad. Sooooo where's the music ? I've also never played Pillars 1 & 2, but I did listen to their soundtracks to specifically get an idea of what to expect for Avowed and those soundtracks are good ! Quite Oblivion like soundtracks I'd say, so why not use some music from the game to give off a vibe/set a tone ? Also, I feel like they've not shown enough of what to expect from the world/setting, ie they've not shown enough setpieces/environments (more different biomes, more of the bestiary, populated areas, interiors, etc) and/or items (armours, weapons, etc). Worst case scenario would be that they've actually shown pretty much all what's to expect, which wouldn't be much if that's the case. Like sure those deserty landscapes, rocky coasts or church-like interiors are great and all but ... Are there lush forests ? What about sprawling seemingly endless plains ? Mmmmmaybe a big fortified town with a castle in the centre ? Can we even swim underwater and perhaps explore underwater caves and sunken wrecks ? We lack too much information. I can only assume they'llgive it at least another showing before its full release but if we don't learn much more a few weeks/months before its release then I wouldn't expect much :(

[@Stock--Rosso]

The size worries me. Is this gonna be almost like a looter shooter and just repetitive, because there’s nothing to explore after 15/20 hours. I hope you’re wrong, but time will tell. Great video👍🏻

[@Acnologia-nv1gu]

I’m worried it’ll be like tiny Tina wonderlands where it is hyped but dies out real quick

[@markshmellomd1370]

I just want poe3. Hopefully the leveling systems are similar to poe2 rather than a surface level system like skyrim or outer wilds. Level of build crafting in the crpgs of poe2 compared to the garbage of bethesda games just makes me hate the simplistic skill trees most games employ today.

[@jpsailorallaboardmatey461]

I like the style. My concern is how immersive is this going to be? Is it just going to be Outerworlds ad a fantasy game? If so I will not be too happy. I liked outerworlds, the dialogue was good, the combat was okay. But the world and immersion was horrible. Worlds felt small and exploring was not interesting. I was able to finish everything interesting in about 50 hours where fallout 4 and Skyrim took me almost 7 months. I would choose fallout 4 over Outerworlds.

[@sil5429]

I think Avowed is still going to be really good story-wise. Obsidian games never had exceptional gameplay and never had gorgeous visuals. The RPG elements is always what saves Obsidian games, and that is exactly the part that was NOT shown in any showcase or trailer. Its probably just bad marketing decisions from higher ups.

[@sterlingdennett]

The only thing I have so far seen from Avowed that I do not like, is the guns. Call me a purist if you like, but I don't think firearms have any place in a fantasy setting with magic. Bows and crossbows, obviously belong in such a setting, but not guns. There are some creative solutions I have recently seen, like how in Ashes of Creation there is a Potion Launcher weapon that kind of looks like a shotgun, but all it does is automate the throwing of potion bottles at the enemy. Now THAT is a creative solution! MAYBE if you introduced a weapon that operates on magical principles, while looking like a gun, that would be okay by me.

[@Baronstone]

Wait, you were disappointed by The Outer Worlds?? Exactly what was it about that amazing IP that you hated? The story was amazing, the characters were amazing, and you could literally do almost anything you could think of. yet here you are saying that you were disappointed by it?!?!?!?!

[@stevenrobinson7827]

Voice acting sucks..and from what was shown for can tell this will be an empty open world for the most part with not much to do because one thing they didn't focus on was the world building and the main quest to side quest ratio. Meaning it will be heavily focused on the main quest, go here go there and not necessarily a role playing experience choose your own path. Therefore I know where to set my expectations with this game

[@Welldonewaryaaa]

I just found out you can only play as 2 races, humans and elves what a fcking joke…. Of all the unique and cool races in eora were stuck with the generic human and elf 🤦🏾‍♂️

[@antonytomas1]

Huh. As someone who loves PoE, Kotor 2, Fallout NV and Outer Worlds, I'm hyped. I guess people prefer Bethesda and Starfield..

[@Sk0lzky]

The combat looks like a repeat of the oblivion/skyrim fiasco, where Todd literally admitted it was just meant to "look cool" - just shallow action-y animation spam with no interesting mechanics behind. If it stays like this then hopefully they at least make levelling it more impactful. I love most of the clothes/armour design though PS I think it would be a good idea to reduce the amount of "I'm not hating on the game" disclaimers, it's already evident from the context, you give your reasons, and you already have one in the beginning so if somebody still doesn't get what you're trying to communicate they're not gonna start listening, and it's therefore redundant.

[@Angelfyre.]

I probably will not buy this game on launch, if anything I’ll wait for it to go on sale on Steam or just skip it entirely. I already decided to get Stalker 2 & with how expensive games are getting these days I don’t have the money or care to spend lots of money on 3 or more $70 titles. There’s rumors that Blizzard & others are looking to raise the price of games even more to something like $100. With how things are going in the industry (Broken uncompleted games, lots of micro transactions, now rumors of $100 games) it’s surprising these companies don’t realize people will buy fewer games if the initial price of them keeps going up. They won’t be able to get away with broken uncomplicated games anymore if a game is $100 & most people only will buy 2-3 games.

[@TimeIsMine93]

I remember seeing ni-no Kuni when I was in college and going "meh". Then years later realizing who made the game and what the premise was... To this day, one of the best games I ever played. To be fair tho, I wasn't looking at any media, just saw the vague art on the case and laughing it off as childish. But I have to agree with you and I'm a major pillars fan. It'll be on game pass so I'll try it day one but, the more I've seen, the less pumped I am

[@brandonrickner1321]

I can't believe this is set in Eora... it really feels like they're trying to chase commercial success as opposed to innovation. PoE was truly special. Avowed looks like painfully watered down.

[@ChangingHorizons]

I think it plays like outer worlds in hack and slash. It will be a fun to play, quick to complete RPG. It will be AA at best. Do not go looking for AAA quality and you will live it. I am playing the Outer worlds spacers choice edition. The video looks eerily similar.

[@davidbodor1762]

Honestly if you haven't played Pillars, your opinion on anything but the graphics is irrelevant and the graphics, well, they don't fuckin matter for a game like this. It could be red cubes vs yellow triangles and I'd still play it, because it's the Pillars writing and worldbuilding sucks you in.

[@andrewvincent7299]

I don't mind the art style. I think it's a refreshing change from the usual. I'm tired of "gritty and real" in rpgs. That seems to be what almost all rpgs are going for and it's so damn old and tired now and uninspired. This isn't the 2010s anymore when fantasy was try to break out of the D & D and Tolkienesqe fantasy to try to be "cool and dark". That shit is as about as old as high fantasy except we've had ten years of that same old bland greys and brown colors in fantasy. It's about time fantasy Rpgs are going back to more fantastical looks. Obviously there is interest in high fantasy with BG3 going back to basics with it's art style and how well received that was. If you want "gritty, dark, and realism", go play a medieval rpg. But keep that grimdark shit away from fantasy rpgs. It's getting old and is frankly boring and the most uninspired art style anyone can go for. Plus, you never played the first POE when it was deep in that grimdark art style so what do you care that Avowed is going with a more classical high fantasy look? You have no baseline when it comes to this series.

[@prismatic9890]

I think it's cool that obsidian is very inspired by bethesdas games. Like how the outer worlds was undeniably inspired by fallout and now avowed is inspired by the elder scrolls but my issue is that these games are very similar to each other yet obsidians have been smaller in features and size compared to bethesdas games. (exluding new vegas obv). Its like why would i settle for the outer worlds which is basically just fallout but with less features and overall smaller scope when i can just go play fallout? Im feeling the same way with avowed right now. Too its own detriment, its too similar to skyrim without seemingly bringing anything that new to that style of game and at the same time being overall smaller in scope. In my opinion, Obsidian has to really start differentiating themselves from Bethesda and really do more creative and new features and mechanics if they want to keep doing games at this smaller level

[@masterM383]

I'm still looking forward to this game, but I have to admit that the latest Gameplay showcase reduced my hype too. The combat doesn't look so good and the first cinematic (surprise, surprise...) had a much better vibe, at least for me.

[@OriginsDragon]

I still hyped for it, graphic doesn't concern me, it's the gameplay and choices that matter.

[@thewatcher3561]

The trailer to Avowed looked good and the gameplay looks average. The gameplay should be alot better but I think the game suffers from a long build cycle and thats maybe a reason why it was reduced in scale. I won't be playing it, not because its a bad game but I simply don't need another fantasy RPG to play 😇

[@okNiko]

I feel exactly the same, I hope it's fantastic because I loved New Vegas, but I also played a few of their previous games [Alpha Protocol, KotOR2, Outer Worlds] and the gameplay always feels lackluster and unpolished. As if majority of development went toward the story/characters and then at the last second they remembered you have to have actual gameplay between story segments.

[@wlot28]

The guys who made new Vegas a masterpiece aren’t at obsidian anymore

[@okNiko]

@@wlot28 that's true!

[@lizardmedia2257]

Why were you ever hyped? This dev cant seem to make a good game without it either being unfinished or completely broken, and lets be honest its not like POE was ever good and a genre change sure as hell wasnt going to fix it.

[@TB-vb1st]

I didn't like The Outer Worlds that much and soured my lofty opinion of Obsidian. That game's 'open world' map was so small and limited, and spent way too much time fast traveling here and there for fetch quests.

[@C_hef]

You hit the nail on the head with this for me. There's something about the game that looks really awful, and maybe it's simply that the game plays better than it shows. Honestly though, I thought Outer Worlds was a caricature of a video game. I disliked the level design (hallways) and I was barely able to trudge my way through the intro, so I'm hoping that Avowed can at least provide some better level design (which is does seem to be doing, thankfully) and not have such a bloated intro section.

[@wjr341]

See i believe one does has the right to make an informed purchase (money) or investment (time) about a game. But I don't like the spread of hate/negativity of a game just to trash the game. I will talk about a timea friend and I split because of my POV. FF 15 was about to release and we were hyped, i had seen the movie, played the prequel mini game and saw the youtube anime and was feeling slightly burnt out from the hype with getting a lot of nothing overall. Suddenly the demo was available and that crushed me down. The world felt barren, and the gameplay was boring. To me it's like the skeletal blueprint to a draft of Death Stranding... Anyways when i told this to my friend he was so unhappy with me and said i was to critical and that i should have an open mind to what could be a masterpiece, and that it was deserving of a real chance outside of it's demo. Even then he started to say that i had no right to feel that way without buying the game and that is when i told him i have the right to make an informed decision before making a purchase so i should be critical on how to invest my hard earned money. We haven't spoken since then. 3-4 years later i bought the complete edition of the game at half price or less maybe and watched all the media content related to the game to then play it. I ended up still not liking the game. It was exactly how the demo felt. Even with this version of the game having tweeked a couple of aspects of the gameplay I still could not enjoy or find any amusement. The story is still a mess and really holds no weight at all. The game had some amazing trailers and concepts years prior to release but it ended up feeling like a dud. My point is. I don't hate it. Never went on a opposition to tell people off who liked the game, my critique before buying the game was for me to own but not for anyone else to swallow. Dont bash on other for not liking a game and dont force someone to like the game cause that person could invest their time into something that they would enjoy.

[@raskolnikov6443]

7:20 I actually think the lip sync is quite good considering this is a game with a huge amount of dialogue. RPGs like this should be compared to action adventure games with respect to graphics and animations and lip sync.