We need to talk about Mixing Cheat Sheets.

[@anonymoususer2764]

"+14 for the snare transient" - Virtual Riott

[@AndrewYac]

"Virtual Riot is my best friend" - Definitively wasn't Elimilimilimilimilmilimilimilimiliminate

[@komodinotubesco]

Whitout the limiter in the master ^^. Here, this is an example that the "rules of music production" are not good in all the case

[@robingardner3018]

Lol, that really got me

[@ok-vy4pt]

That's a lot of reverb - Virtual Riot 2019 (showing the hysteria project file)

[@atomictraveller]

i went to go see star wars part 1, he kilt all teh sand peepull and then him go home and he say, "i kilt them" and they put a fucking DC spike in thar my ear was teh bleeding

[@teko634]

Random instagram post: “Get a better mix using these 5 rules” Me, putting reverb on a sub: *YES*

[@gr11n33]

Put some distortion, get a top level mixing engineer and you got whole Tylers "Igor" just for yourself lmao

[@blulere]

nah man just put reverb on master set low to off and high to 500 hz 😎😎 pros will love it

[@turbochargedfilms]

subs without reverb might be nice to listen to but they won't get you to berghain

[@bigolworm3045]

become ungovernable

[@Gabriel-jx4or]

now my beats are industry standart

[@jo_nm9484]

S t a n d a r t

[@untouchableMCs]

Standart is very good

[@pristineproductions]

How do you know that ?

[@davemayer6128]

Yeah, it is standart

[@gliesearchives]

Stand-art

[@dylanlockemp3]

usually people with name dylan are enemy but i think u are friend i like u

[@Majima_57]

you guys should do a collab

[@SlayPlenty]

Dylan^2

[@neu3478]

You should start editing videos it might suit you well

[@DylanTallchief]

Dylan

[@AlrexX2]

oh my god its dylan and dylan

[@shithead4759]

*Industry Standart*

[@malak_minatory]

Nice pfp lol

[@novie160]

*Industry Standart*

[@slowedtracks5951]

*Industry Standart*

[@stevepapi1996]

1:30 tarp beat

[@JenByte]

😂

[@egekazakmusic]

You really have to train and trust your ears, it depends so much on what sounds and samples you use it's always different

[@totoplz]

yeah but it gets really hard when it's about mixing the bass section when 1. your headphones don't go down low enough 2. your neighbours hate you

[@egekazakmusic]

@@totoplz Beyerdynamics headphones are a good choice, not too expensive either, DT 770 pro for example it's amazing and I still use it

[@totoplz]

@@egekazakmusic I also have beyerdynamics headphones, the "custom studios", which are even more expensive i think but they still dont really offer that really low bass response that im looking for

[@xelerator2398]

Just use high treble iem's when after finised project listen with better headphones you will be shocked ! Im simple man if sound good with suck iem's everyone can listen it !!!

[@MatrixPermutation]

sonarworks + bayerdynamics dt880 or sennheisser hd600 and u r safe

[@TheZombiezXtreme]

good video dylan. 2/10.

[@alexmanning9108]

I wanna like this comment but it’s on 69 likes so I won’t

[@dats1k270]

2/10db🌚

[@sausboi9085]

Get out of here, Melon!

[@marlonbravo6319]

I don't know why but I laughed hella hard when I read this. Thanks, made my day.

[@sebastiandavila9122]

😂

[@XS10SEALS]

When the guide went "-_-" I felt that.

Most of these Instagram accounts are just faking it, like some of them literally give you "eq presets for your kicks" and be something like boost 120 hz for more bass, like wtf

[@DinkyPattern1]

0db okay i hear it -1db TURN THAT BCK I HEAR NOTHING!!!!

[@cjfromgtasanadreas]

This goes back to "if it sounds good it's good", let me give you a deep house song as an example, you can make your kick hard hitting as Mahmut Orhan does usually or you can make it short and quieter as it's the case of most of the songs mixed by Spinnin records. Which sounds better to you, which do you want in every one of your mix? Don't mix thinking "is this how these people will like it", mix while asking yourself "do I like this?"

[@LiMCRiMZ]

This is great advice unless you're me. Everything that sounds good to me comes across as completely wack to literally everyone and 10 years of experience has not changed that one bit 😂 I guess these guides are great for people that just want to sound juuuuust generic enough for a non-musician/non-prodicer audience to comment [🔥🔥🔥🔥] a bunch of times? 🤷‍♂️

[@rusael333]

from personal experience the best way to learn how to mix at/close to an industry standard is to 1) dont overcomplicate things, 9 times out of 10 the problem is with the sound being too loud/too quiet, in trap especially you dont need a lot of frequency manipulation or sound design, the sounds are very basic and you mostly dont need fancy mixing plugins 2) if you want to learn something you need to put 10.000 hours into it. same goes for mixing. do it by yourself on your own music over and over again on hundreds of tracks until it starts to sound like the music you like listening

[@superschizoscriptures]

i clip everything +10 Db minimum so that my mix is nice and crunchy :)

[@Meltrikz]

If you also add a maximus on each drum track and turn all the knobs to the maximum, you'll get drums that really knock.

[@martismartiis813]

@@Meltrikz add waveshaper on master, right click and drag to the left corner on the top

[@Meltrikz]

@@martismartiis813 Damn, thanks for that tip! Now I'm an industry producer.

[@txddyfarquh69]

Don't for get to place Sausage Fattener in every step of the Master Chain for MAXIMUM knock....thank me later

[@codexstudios]

How to Subtronics be like

[@anomalymusic1]

"If you ain't red linin' you ain't Headlinin"

[@TeeRexWrecksFace]

im glad dylan was just as confused as me about that "basic structure." also dylan is the best music production teacher on youtube. i learn so much from these vids

[@50CalBeats]

The entire existence of r/trapproduction summed up in 10 minutes Edit: midi pack

[@WyattWinters]

Guys my Xfer Omnisphere says STEAM folder unauthorized how to fix this I'm running FL Studio Live on Windows Catilina plz help

[@50CalBeats]

@@WyattWinters try install Sausage Fattener 👍 gl bro

[@Silverisaiah]

The only way to make good music is to use a midi pack.

[@OttomanBeats]

TRY THIS AND I GUARANTEE YOUR MIXES WILL SOUND BETTER EVERYWHERE. DBs are on the master channel velocity. KICK 15 DB SNARE - 808 18 DB HIHATS 27-24 DB INSTRUMENTS 30-21 DB THE WHOLE MIX SHOULD BE 9-12 DB AT MOST, BEFORE MASTERING. HOW TO MASTER. FL LIMITER SETTINGS: CEL -1.0 DB SAT- -0.1 DB GAIN 6.0 DB SOFT CLIPPER: THRESHOLD 0.0 DB (ALL THE WAY UP) POST GAIN: 95 DONE

[@nygh7336]

Ok

[@hermianofficial3400]

I can't tell if you're joking or not. In case you aren't, fixed settings will do jackshit for you.

[@gebborecords]

Thanks do you have the same for other genre of music???

[@rkken]

i only use eq cheat sheets for instruments i've never mixed before. it helps to see what each of the defining qualities of something like a ukulele is and where abouts they reside in terms of frequency

[@feelingevaporated2912]

Spectrum analysis man

[@rkken]

@@feelingevaporated2912 spectrum analysis doesn't tell you about the features of instruments though. i use it, but it wouldn't work for this purpose

[@ByMcCauley]

I like your mix than the Industry Standard I believe there is no such thing as proper mix and you can do whatever you want it to sound like and thats the beauty of music. Its always about personal preference and how you want to express yourself. On the other side ,these cheat codes are helpful as you got a guide to go what you are going to do

[@flynn312]

Using a VU meter helps with this since it measures sound intensity by taking an average of the whole sound. During the peak meter comparison of the kick and snare, if a VU meter was used you would see the difference in perceived volume.

[@user-lt2rw5nr9s]

I used to use specific DB levels for the kick, 808, and snare. Everything else was by ear though. I still changed percieved loudness with saturation/distortion. Ill probably keep my kick at -6db since I'm used to leveling around that, but I'm using my ears for everything else now. I know very well of the flaws of DB. You can have a 1hz sine wave at 0db and not hear it.

[@martismartiis813]

that's cause human ears can't hear below 20hz

[@samuelng6441]

@@martismartiis813 for me, I'm actually putting my kick at -12db, and my snare is probably at around -13 to -14db, sub at -15 to -17db (since I'm using 2-3 bass tracks layered together). In general, I aim to peak around -6.3 or -6.5db on my master fader. I felt that my mix sounded better and clearer after I adopted this method. Less is really more tbh. And you get to preserve your dynamics and not squash them. This is of course done after gain staging to -18dbfs though.

[@anonymoususer2764]

Chokes in 2 db drums

[@austinv3917]

@@samuelng6441 professional mastering engineers actually prefer to receive a mix that peaks just below -6 , so I’d say you’re doing great

[@samuelng6441]

@@austinv3917 eh 2021 update: I actually think that the -6db peak is a myth or fallacy. While it may help novices do as little damage to their mixes as possible, once you can do proper gain staging as well as understand digital audio, this -6db peak rule will only hold you back on making modern mixes; especially if you are looking to create loud mixes. What are your thoughts on this?

[@Yvory]

0:50 open-hat and 808 making faces at us

[@killervacuum]

Lol what if the person making the cheat sheet had default fruity limiter on and didn't know

[@hankhomaomes2830]

hmmm Good Point!

[@TheNightquaker]

I think these cheat sheets can indeed be a good starting point. Just something to start with and continue learning from there.

[@equiaux]

Dylantallchief can you make a video on mixing and mastering , i trust you more than others

[@Asmongold_CatDany]

is that an xqc reference...............

[@DylanTallchief]

cheeto

[@eloxo8701]

Hey catdany, I like your channel been following you forever. Can't believe I saw you here such a small world

[@SibaNL]

I think the meters mix is pretty nice. In your mix the 808 is a bit loud. But for the rest, not really a big difference.

[@TheMagicmagic290]

The perc and snare fill is too loud on the meters mix though but yeah for sure it ess better than expected

[@JRodriguez]

I found that these kind of cheat sheets really helped me when I started out as a jump off point, and I guess it just comes down to how you take them on, like you mentioned they shouldn't be seen as law.

[@CaliberBeats]

i prefer your first mix, but i think the second mix sounded most professional with the tame bass and super punchy snare

[@zaidmomin3994]

Dylan Tallcheif:CHEAT MODE ACTIVATED

[@KennyCleod]

The cheat sheet is only for beginners. In the end the mastering still comes to picture.

[@raitunes]

Finally! Some helpful mixing advice!

[@almightyanonone6059]

Hands down without question, ur initial mix sounds exponentially better than the cheat sheet mix

[@gurpreetrandhawa1093]

Great tutorial bro... specially time mentioned in your discrition.....👍👍👍👌👌👌

[@ysink]

1:00 Industry Standart.

[@tamlin434]

HOW TO TOKYO MACHINE BASS HOUSE Maybe?

[@lxn7796]

never been so early, love you Dylan!🙌

[@Lov5music]

That melody is insane bro

[@rivage3900]

Great mix Dylan, keep it up, proud of you!

[@scifu7e91]

Some standards are good and other not, but in the end it's important that you like your work (noob, pro... however). Enjoy the days Dylan and everyone too 🎶🥤

[@saiyanshh]

Dylan is a very tall chief..... That sounded funnier in my head.

[@lyukyui]

Honestly I kind of prefer the meters mix. Sounds clearer and more open. What those kinds of sheets are brilliant for, is as a starting point and as general guidelines for volume ranges. You set the tracks to about those levels with the faders at unity and start mixing from there. Gets you into the ballpark right away and from there you can make it sound awesome.

[@ninjalemurdude]

It actually seems like a good reference. Not a rule or shortcut or anything, but something to give you a general idea of where things might sit in the mix (I'm assuming) after EQ and compression and before mastering. Most of my mixes would probably be pretty close to this.

[@meessluis6035]

Best music channel out there 100%

[@unickx5188]

Your ears are your ultimate weapons! Don't fool them just by feeding some dank memes!

[@samuelivascu7633]

What i do is gainstage everything to -12, then choose a main element which is gonna be -12 then lower everything from there except the sub and the kick+snare. Which are more or less the same volume (depending on the song: -1 to -2 on the drums and 0 to -3 on the sub)

[@Syneptic]

Samuel Ivascu not sure if joke or not

[@samuelivascu7633]

@@Syneptic kinda yes kinda not. Just do whatever you like. This works for me

[@FreeTrick11]

Finally someone is talking about these

[@NUHDUBZ]

Mr. Bill actually had a really in depth video on why we hear something like a dubstep kick as something louder than a short clicky hihat even when the hihat is peaking at say +10db and the kick is at -4 db. Perceived loudness is directly effected on the length of the sound as well as the actual volume of the sound. I gave kinda a pepega explanation so just go watch the Mr. Bill video lol.

[@elieh.studio]

What's the title of the video?

[@NUHDUBZ]

@@elieh.studio mr. bill masterclass at kmg

[@elieh.studio]

@@NUHDUBZ Thank you

[@DrigordYT]

Tbh, not all cheat sheet are bad, there are some that really helps. I sometime try it for the sake of experiment, but if it sound bad then imma do it my self. Just keep in mind that this cheat sheet isn't for everything and everytime. Good video tho' :)

[@lowlight1063]

you actually like umm, asked me at around 4 minutes to type in comments what i think is better and i do agree with you dylan, i like your version of the trap beat more

[@djcj]

love your video editing

[@defectivepikachu4582]

i want to see dylan make a cursed song

[@ok-vy4pt]

Ngl I kinda do tho

[@nejcfilipic]

I have one simple trick: be creative. Making a music from rules will make you same as any other music or ever worse, you have no chance to succeed by creating something based on simple rules. Just do what you do the best and try to make it sound good to yourself. You have to be judge by yourself. The big names producers are talented but they don't follow basic rules. Pretty much every music is a bit different from each other, that is because they don't follow the rules.

[@BlugiYT]

That was the best intro of this video I have ever seen. -1/10

0:26 dude i was totally going to make a video out of that same image, damn

[@BLKMND]

There was a newer comment here about this post (since it's mine) so I'm just gonna copy the answer to that comment here. "Since it's my post on 0:25 I gotta agree with you, you understood it well. It was my bad as I wrote "Basic structure" instead of "Basic elements" so that's why this post was misunderstood. I just gotta say I feel sorry for the guy who made this video for trashing anyone instead of giving constructive criticism but I also salute him for making tutorials and sharing knowledge. Peace"

[@PorshiaVonne]

Industry standart 😂😂😂😂😂 I missed that one!

[@KlaifTheBee]

"Cheat sheet" track hears mastered, but... I think it's individual for every melody, and you should balance every music by your feel, there are no "an Ideal number" or something like this. Developing musical feeling is great. It will help you so much in the future.

[@apollobeats2007]

Thank you for this

[@Mista808]

I'm always constipated. Sometimes there will even be blood on the toilet paper and in the water. I'm fairly certain this is not industry standart? 😨

[@Pandahydra]

This man can do anything with everything.

[@xyla4874]

The first pic is about trap beat arrangement m pretty sure

[@sevenaries]

Wow I didn't know I needed this but holy I did 🙏

[@aungyelin959]

Yr version ... is aggressive sounding that cool

[@IAMMAT87]

Layer everything on top of each other, loads of stacking. Cant go wrong

[@xannibalmusic9370]

Just the video I wanted

[@ripple.music_]

industry standard type beat lmao. killed me

[@Canilho]

It's good to have a reference for your sound, and even more important to learn how to use your own ears.

[@Betazeta]

Someone probably already explained but the trap cheat sheet is just a blueprint for arrangement

[@23kgoat19]

Yeah pretty cringe he didn’t get it

[@DBTHEPLUG]

I just use my ears for every beat i mix

[@parsa6330]

thanks

[@haysambakich8118]

R. I. P head room

[@SlayPlenty]

My fav was the slow outro version omfg firah

[@lieutenantpepper2734]

Industry standart mix!

[@totoplz]

Could you do more mixing tips videos?

[@juanito_bamboo]

Super interesting vídeo. It would be cool doing it about other generes!

[@YKAYNJ]

Good start I guess

[@xelerator2398]

I use Ohmicide for the industry standart of HARD ELECTRO!!!

[@howir0n1c2]

The thing is the peaking values on the meter don't at all correspond to the actual loudness... that's why things like RMS & K-curves exist. Some sounds are naturally louder based on frequency content, which is why when you distort a sound, it sounds louder despite peaking lower on the meter. btw your mix definitely sounds cleaner than the meter mix

[@slurpii4142]

I think I'm the only one here who came to learn something I suck at mixing

[@switchi8663]

My friend you are not alone

[@astral_haze]

as a dj i have no idea what the point loudness meters even is bbecause they dont seem to give any sorta usable information and using them for setting gain will just get you drastic inconsistency in how loud tracks actually sound so i just do all of that by ear, since in the end music is for subjective enjoyment, so i guess a subjective judgement of loudness is what i may as well go with

[@efeogheney]

I think the picture @ 0:28 is a playlist/setup/structure of your track. Hope this helps, not sure 100 % though but it's my best guess.

[@DarkMetaOFFICIAL]

Great video man! Just, the only thing is, this all seems to be pretty standart information.

[@zyrk7627]

When it comes to cheat sheets with actual values for volume then yes, they are trash and you shouldn't follow them. But there are solid cheat sheets out there for like example, EQ's, that give you a small rundown of what certain regions do and those are something you can definitely follow for a good start. Yes, you still have to get yourself trained in order to listen for the subtle nuances but I also think that it really depends on what kind of cheat sheet you're using.

[@peterblatte2808]

I subbed blindly rn based upon the title..I think see where you’re going tho

[@190mitchidproductions7]

I genuinely prefer the fader mix, it hits harder at higher volumes on analog stuff

[@KristoferProphet]

I would like to know exactly how old school guys and gals mixed music without all these fancy gimmicky plugins, like “stereo wideners” and etc. How did they get such fullness, depth and etc. and how exactly did they do it.

[@BENCH-TEST]

I really like your voice

[@BENCH-TEST]

I'm not gay

[@schlangenvogel2647]

So should I turn off now the reverb on my sub

[@Azix09]

1:38 I watched this part twice to understand

[@CestLaVie73]

What about pink noise mixing? Maybe that is best way to get mix levels right.

[@mytbeats]

It's relative not every sound is the same you can put a thin kick at -1 and have plenty of headroom but if you put a big fat kick you have no headroom left ..that industry standard is a load off bull crap

[@musiclifer7297]

🥶🥶

[@Loony_]

💫 s t a n d a r t 💫

[@pudabeats]

*What that lead preset tho? Sounds hot af*

[@RSK412]

Jank beat makers game-ifying art again.

[@UnknownInstrumentalz]

Standart

[@cjthegifted]

Everyone has their thing... I like that fact that a new producer can come into the game now and not know a single thing about the mixing process and follow a guide like this. To be honest even the producers that have been making music for some time now and never had a good mix, it helps them achieve a better mix. Everything is subjective and to a personal desire at the end of the day. I would much rather someone start with a guide and work from there rather than not use one and go off a beginners perspective of a mix.

[@Yuzuki1337]

Both approaches are valuable in my opinion. Cheat sheets help new producers get ideas rough guidelines and approaches they probably wouldn't have figured out on their own (until years down the line). Blindly experimenting helps them grow more comfortable with their ears and their equipment/environment though.

[@HalalMemes007]

I like to put fruity reverb in the 808 with dry knob all the way down and wet knob all the way up🙂🙂🙂🙂

[@mattiopattio]

LMAO i’m glad you covered this i was just thinking the other day about how dumb these are

[@JayBee6801]

So the cheatsheet is a baseline to start with... Then adjust to preference/feeling.