We need to talk about the Floyd Rose FRX...

[@GuitarMAXMusic]

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[@WillfulThinker]

That bridge has a guitar installed on it.

[@carlodevivomusicontent2138]

🤣👏

[@yactabay]

Man but does it look good. I mean stupid good. Had I not seen this video I would have thought it was a junk guitar with a high quality term. Turns out their low priced guitars are junk but they make more expensive good quality guitars.

[@carlodevivomusicontent2138]

@@yactabay ???

[@GrahamsYouTube]

😂👍

[@MrJohnnyDistortion]

Under it

[@retropuffer2986]

Parents: We need to talk about the Birds & the Bees Guitar MAX: We need to talk about the Floyd Rose FRX 😊

[@ToneD5150]

I put the FRX on my Les Paul back in 2016 and everyone told me I was foolish. I purchased it directly from Floyd Rose and I was immediately impressed with the performance on this new bridge. Tuning stability increased 10 fold and I no longer had to constantly tune my guitar as before. This FRX replaced the Bigsby Vibrato which would never return to "0" Kudos to Floyd Rose for developing this marvelous bridge...!!! Thanks Max for this review...🤘✌️👍

[@mikeg.9238]

To me these guitars are way overpriced , after looking at several reviews on amazon these guitars are not worth the price IMO!

[@FrankHarv]

@@mikeg.9238 This video is about a Floyd Rose BRIDGE... that can fit on Chinese Les Pauls, Epiphones, etc.

[@mikeg.9238]

@@FrankHarv Your point!?

[@ToneD5150]

@@FrankHarv well Mine was put on a 2011 Gibson Les Paul Traditional, back in 2016...!!! The video is about the FRX, not just about the Sawtooth.... Have a rocking day!🤘

[@FrankHarv]

@@mikeg.9238 The video is about a Floyd Rose bridge. Not if the demo guitar is worth what they ask for it.

[@ShiroArctic]

I put one of these on my SG, and I'm actually fairly impressed by the quality. One quick tip from personal experience though, putting a small dab of either beeswax or paraffin wax on the pivot points helps it move a lot more smoothly. Other than that, I haven't had any issues with mine.

[@insanetubegain]

My 1998 Vigier Excalibur has ball bearings at the fulcrums instead of blades. The bridge tremolo is a locking Floyd Rose style with locking nut. It stays in tune forever no matter how crazy I get with it. It also has a zero fret that makes it the fastest buzz free neck I've ever played. I think I'll die owning it. It's basically the only electric guitar I play any more. My PRS Custom 24 will get out of tune if I get too crazy with the whammy bar, it hasn't been played for a long time now. Both guitars have wonderful tone, but I think the Vigier sustains a little more. I have to admit the PRS is a lot easer to string up and tune.

[@claudevieaul1465]

I've done that (some paraffin scrapings) on my regular Floyd trems too, it does indeed work perfectly!! Graphtec could (should) make replacement posts... 😎👍

[@claudevieaul1465]

​@@insanetubegainVigier guitars are stunningly well made... Expensive but definitely worth it.

[@nivekairual2342]

I purchased an FRX second-hand to install on my Les Paul DC. I have zero experience either Floyd Rose bridges nor Installing bridges on any guitar. It's not as intimidating as it looks. I followed the instructions, took my time and had excellent results. By far, the best tremolo of any guitar I own, including several guitars that are stock. return to zero on this tremolo is second to none. My only critique about it is the included locking nut. The screw that comes with it appears as though it will come out the other side of the head. It didn't, but was easily twice the length of the original truss cover it replaced. If you have a guitar that's been refinished, I'd be willing to bet it would go through. Other than that, it is a beautiful replacement tremolo. The price is the only reason I haven't installed one on every guitar I own that has a stopbar tailpiece. Hard to justify paying $300 to install it on a $300 Epi.

[@way2sh0rt07grad]

I guess it depends on if you plan on selling the guitar. If you plan on keeping the guitar, it's totally worth putting a FR on it. Even if your guitar is only $300, adding the bridge may give you playability of a $1200 guitar

[@markchristopher420]

@@way2sh0rt07grad 💪😎👍 My thoughts exactly! No surgery or routing, either! Going to install the new FRX that I just got @ $250 on sale onto either my Epiphone LP Special (twin P90's) or one of my Firefly Les Pauls... Instant upgrade & now it's one sick axe for either $330 or $450, depending which one!!

[@newmexicosaint]

I discovered this bridge because of you Max. I now have one on my Harley Benton SC Custom II EMG and I love it. Works EXACTLY like it should and looks fantastic!

[@sgt.grinch3299]

That is a fine looking and sounding guitar. Sawtooth puts a lot on amenities into their builds. Amazing benefits of this bridge are new to me.

[@joeaxe]

I like the way it looks.

[@FransJCMartins]

I have a Tokai Pink Paisley LP and a Tokai LP Custom both fitted with FRX. Super happy. I fitted myself. The Custom needed a little route (small indent made to the top) to make space for part of the spring attachment. No big issues. These bridges absolutely rock!❤❤❤

[@skyhorseprice6591]

I have not had the pleasure of playing a guitar equipped with this bridge. In fact, I had no idea it existed until I watched this video. Max, I subscribed to your channel just now. I am a _looooong_ time Floyd Rose user and advocate. What that means is, I have 8 guitars, and every one of em has a Floyd on it. The whammy bar to me is like a little instrument of its own, but unlike other instruments must be attached to a guitar to work its magic. Setup can certainly be a gigantic torment if you don't know what you're doing, _but_ ... .....once you realize that the plane of the strings is what you need to match with the plane of the movable part of the bridge , you're all downhill from there. As long as the flat top surface of the movable bridge piece is _exactly parallel_ with the strings (and as long as you stretch your new strings as you install them), you literally cannot go out of tune. If you have the bridge sort of leaning forward (front edge low, rear edge high), when you drop or raise pitch with the bar, you're gonna come back a bit flat. Reverse that so the front of the bridge is high & the rear low, and you will come back sharp. Every.damn.time. Which brings us to the FRX. Imma tell ya right now, I like this thing a lot. Your concise, clear, and accurate demo style is superb, so much so that you convinced me that I need at least one guitar with an FRX on it. For anyone reading through these comments, I wanna say that what Max is telling you is like 1,000% correct. Floyd Rose units are something I know very well, it being that my very first Floyd was purchased by sending my guitar to Floyd himself, in Washington, where he installed it himself on my 1973 blonde Strat. This was when fine tuners were still in Floyd's inventive subconscious mind my Floyd Rose was the very first model. I think only EVH, Randy Hansen, and Brad Gillis were ahead of me; I got FR # 15 or something. This FRX bridge is bad _ass!_ Also, Max, so is that Sawtooth Voodoo guitar. So _duuuude,_ you sold me on two items, not one lol. Really like your demo style, Max, and it does not hurt that you're also an excellent player. I do not mean to sound like some snob, because I was a guitar noob when I first started, you were a guitar noob, Steve freaken Vai was a guitar noob lol...BUT...there is nothing more frustrating to me than trying to make a decision about a guitar or guitar gear based on a demo by someone who cannot ( _yet_ emphasis is there to hammer that nothing-wrong-with- being-a-beginner nail home) play very well. Sorry about the long winded comment🤣but you really did sell me on FRX and the Sawtooth guitar. †‡DISCLAIMER†‡ I am not being financially compensated for the views expressed here. This comment is so favorable towards Max, the FRX & Floyd Land in general, simply because I think the product and the dude demo'ing them are in point.

[@thomasdrake8630]

I have 3 frx units. Wonderful piece. If you're deficient with set-up, don't even think about it. It's as much of a beast as a regular floyd to adjust. Once adjusted can't beat it....

[@atakdragonfly1675]

I have a theory that people that complain about Floyds...I think it's that they are just not mechanically inclined. I think it's as simple as that.

[@quickdrawmcgraw3567]

@@atakdragonfly1675 I agree, I went to a guitar shop and watched a very nice vid on how to properly tune a Floyd Rose. Did it on the spot and it sounded great to my amateur ears lmao!

[@atakdragonfly1675]

@@quickdrawmcgraw3567 I just never had... ANY of the problems I hear people come up with! And that's whether it's a real Floyd, licensed Floyd ..Whatever and whatnot.

[@MainPrism]

@@atakdragonfly1675 totally agree. I had never had a floating bridge of any kind until last year. Finally said screw it and got a guitar with a Floyd. Watched a few KZbin vids and when the guitar came in I didn't really have any problems setting it up at all. People just get intimidated and freak themselves out. If you use a little common sense and do a little research they're actually not that bad to set up. Besides once you have one set up it's not going ANYWHERE...

[@NinjaRunningWild]

@@atakdragonfly1675 I’ve owned a few & I don’t generally like them. Not for inability to set them up. Just that it makes tuning a PITA & I think it’s ridiculous I need to cut the ends of my strings off. Why it couldn’t be designed to incorporate the strings that _every other guitar takes naturally_ seems to me, as an engineer, to be a sheer stupid engineering decision. They’re great if you care about whammy technique (I don’t. I’m fine with bends & other technique), but otherwise just introduce additional maintenance into the guitar that isn’t worth it unless you need it.

[@joshuamharper]

I have one on my custom built guitar I had made, easily one of my favorite bridges next to the Gotoh brand Floyd Rose. I love the ease of setting it up and actually being able to do bends without taking the guitar out of tune, tuning stability is amazing, the range of motion is really good and how tight it is, plus being able to show people who are interested in my guitar when they ask about the bridge that there isn’t a route on the back is a bonus.

[@jackdellad4602]

Your knowledge, as always, is supreme. You make the best guitar and most informed videos around. Food for thought every time.

[@BigCleverName]

I completely forgot about the Floyd Rose FRX; I think they've fallen out of public favor because people tend to go after a Stetsbar for an aftermarket TOM Tremolo upgrade Also Gibson did a few production guitars with an FRX in it: 2016 Gibson SG CM Black Floyd FRX

[@ChrisPandHisFlyingV]

I'm a Stetsbar owner (on a '92 Gibson V) and coupled with Steinberger Gearless tuners I've had a decent experience with it. Tuning without a locking nut has been good, using a taller Fender Strat type bar has given me great divebomb depth. But like most Gibsons the Stetsbar hasn't been as sturdy as I'd like. I'm a progressive metal shredder kind of player and I've had an issue with pulling up with the Stetsbar. The Stetsbar gets its down & up pitching by having the entire bridge & tailpiece roll from to back on roller bearings rather than how a FR tilts up & down. This feature of the Stetsbar is really nice for tuning stability BUT if you pull up with some gusto the tailpiece/bridge plate assembly can lift UP and pop the bar attachment mechanism out of position. I have to be exceedingly care ful pulling up and doing any Dime-esque upward squeals are an absolute no-go. I'm thinking I just might move up to this FRX being it seems to be made of sturdier stuff than my Stetsbar. This video all but sold me on it for upgrading my Gibson V and I'm positive I want one on my new custom V I'm building.

[@taz3672]

Finally an honest opinion on this bridge! I have been on the fence for a few years on this bridge because of the videos that I have viewed that were not detailed enough. Thank you Max!

[@GuitarMAXMusic]

Glad it was helpful!

[@taz3672]

@@GuitarMAXMusic Thank you for replying back! I have one question that all other reviews have not mentioned. How low is the string action? I consider low action to be 1.5mm to 2mm on the low E string and 1.5mm to 1mm on the high E string.

[@thetransplanter6209]

Taz you can still get that action I play lower than that. Only problem I have had with this tremolo is on a sg where the pick guard is. You can’t let the under side of this Floyd rose touch the pick guard or else it will cause it to bind and not return to center at all. Therefore I had to cut out some of my pickgaurd but you can not see it. I figure if I ever remove it I can buy another pickgaurd cheap.

[@tommynacc]

I Installed the FRX on a Fernandes Burny Gold Top Les Paul when it first came out I think it was like 2014. I’m not a great guitar tech, but I got it done, yet my action is high. After seeing you play this one, i’m going to experiment a bit more to try to get the action lower, so thanks! Agree on the set screw! But I’m still learning how to use it in unison with the thumb screw. I like a sensitive to the touch, trem, but I do not like strings going out of tune! The thumb screw will give you this! But as you suggest, a professional setup is really the way to go here!

[@robertmenzies3032]

There is one other thing with the magic wheel that locks the bridge is that you can lean your picking palm on the bridge without activating the trem and detuning the strings. This would be why I normally would not touch a Floyd Rose as I find them unplayable, but this is a game changer. Great review thanks

[@michaelkneringer3194]

Best logical presentation on the FRX out there., next to Floyd Rose. The Sawtooth looks like a nice package at reasonable price. I'm more interested in the FRX for a custom build. Good info, will help me on my journey.

[@AngeloNguyen]

Haven't used it, but I think the more I think about the functions, the more I see how much work Floyd obviously put into this thing. His original "retrofitting an SG" video was cool.

[@jimmybags1494]

A killer video, I'm not sure why this bridge isn't talked about more, it just makes sense. I'll be getting one for my ESP Phoenix!

[@lewiskeller93]

I put an FRX on my Epiphone Les Paul and I absolutely love it. I also put in Seymour Duncan Black Winters and it’s amazing. Probably my best player right now

[@vectormusic0]

I came for the Floyd, I stayed for the Sawtooth. Great video and demo!

[@shanejb2121]

Just my two cents... I've played a friend's SG that he installed the FRX on. It plays very well, and like you said, it actually feels great under the hand...much better than I expected. I love the fact it can be retrofitted without permanent mods, AND it's mass gives added sustain from many testimonials....I tend to agree as well. My only beef with it is the bulk of the attachment plate/mechanism and how much real estate it takes up. Not such a big deal on a dedicated performing, or recording mule, but I'd think twice about putting it on a guitar that I value the appearance of as much as the playability, and tone. That said, I do think it's a cool way to get classic Floyd ultra stable tuning no matter what you throw at it. I'd definitely consider putting a guitar together around this system to get the benefits of the features, and make it look a bit less of an add on piece which is the main complaint I've heard about it.

[@APK-pn4qh]

I'd forgotten these existed! 😳 Looks as much work as a regular Floyd though. Honestly the best low maintenance, easy to set, and tune, and most stable trem I ever have used is the Washburn Wunderbar on my old G2V. What a trem! Strings are straight through and the whole trem is surface mounted and rocks on a torsion bar and no springs. Simply cannot knock that thing out of tune! If I could I'd buy up a heap of them and replace all my Floyds! Great video as always Max! 👍

[@lostreb]

I find this demo, review, and video very informative. Great presentation, like always. Please keep the informative and fantastic demos, reviews, and videos coming!!

[@GAdamBarrett]

Another awesome demo from an awesome fellow! Way to go Max!!

[@markbouquet1316]

I have one on every Paul except my 71' Gold Top with the baby-buckers with the Gibson logo on the pick up cover. Some when I did them when they came out, I had to block the bridge so I could put a D-Tuna on it. I never pulled up anyway but it appears, [at a glance] I wouldn't have had to do that "possibly" with that wheel you demonstrated. Absolutely LOVE THEM! Ironically I don't use a whammy bar often. I love them for how incredible they stay in tune more than the trem. I have a traditional Charvel, a Frankenstrat I had built with era accurate components that took longer to get than to have the guitar built and man did this luthier nail it! I'm glad you mentioned the bridge isn't bulky because it's not and you don't lose ANY SUSTAIN! Highly recommended product!!! Great Video!

[@Simantraisince1971]

Even though I don't have guitar cause my parents can't afford electric guitar I still love to watch your video haha

[@richardsmyth9018]

Nice technology. I retrofitted my SG with a Duesenberg trem system that does not have you modify the guitar and is totally reversible. Neat upgrade if you don't want to rout or damage your guitar. It basically replaces the stop tail by mounting to the already installed posts. This Floyd rose fx looks very interesting. I would purchase the whole guitar system.

[@luigizanellato2959]

I've gotten to the point where I've been able to adjust a Floyd inside and out where it holds up very well. It can still be a pain in the arse! lol. It's patients with the floyds mechanisms and a proper setup with the guitar in my opinion. Any device that comes out that helps make it easier, is definitely welcoming in my mind. Great review, like the channel, ROCK ON! This FRX seems like an ingenious device.

[@Don_of_the_Dad]

The FRX is completely different. It’s easier to set up than traditional trem systems.

[@WaxedSeed]

Been considering putting one of these on my next project guitar and there were no reviews that went as in-depth as I needed. This video is perfect and the bridge is 100% going on the next guitar I make modifications to

[@w13rdguy]

About time the Floyds were demystified. There are cases for and against, it's down to the player. The locking capability could be a game changer, for those on the fence, and for those who grew to hate the Floyd.

[@atakdragonfly1675]

Switching around on the fly when you've got to do specific things for certain songs seems pretty ideal.

[@countzero5150]

I used to hate floyd rose trems, these days I almost don't even consider a guitar if it doesn't have one.

[@atakdragonfly1675]

@will Roland that was a very cool bridge, and the one piece neck thru fly, I guess it was the fly deluxe... was probably the smoothest fretboard I ever played. It was carbon with stainless, and boy was it sweet.

[@rickc2102]

I've got one guitar with the floyd fixed at zero, so much more stable tuning using the fine tuners and locked nut.

[@BK-lx5mo]

I’d like to see a model/option where the large frame is in black while the bridge (resembling a traditional FR) is chrome/gold. I think that would help considerably with the bulky look of it.

[@Henrix1998]

4:08 unison bends are harder but by no mean impossible on Floyd Rose. Actually I played for so long on one that hard tail bends became bit hard for me on muscle memory

[@loudguitars69]

I put one on my Gibson flying "V" and have no complaints!!! Works great!!!

[@bigcatjakeserna630]

I could tell you really liked that guitar. You played that thing better than all the other I've seen you play.Great video,now I want one💪🏽🔥👍🏽

[@russschade7463]

I put one on my Herman Lee.it already had a Floyd Rose on it, but the pressure on my posts ruined my posts. I had to do some routing on my guitar but my new rose works rather well and I'm glad I made the change.

[@Noone-of-your-Business]

The thumbscrew also allows you to fix the bridge when changing the strings, which is a *huge* plus for a FR trem. Concerning the look: it may be a monster, but it still beats the Stetsbar in terms of sleekness and understatement. Which is saying a lot.

[@onbedoeldekut1515]

I did like this though, but I've always been put off by how big it looks. I'd love to see something more like the Duesenberg Les trem, but offering more range and stability.

[@jeromewagschal9485]

You should check the Stetsbar system ( s) they won't require any modifications to your guitar regardless of the model... You can totally divebomb it ( them ) and tuning stability is great as is...And even better if you add locking tuners...

[@Moonsteal]

I have a pretty heavily modded Les Paul Studio that I want to put one of these on. To me it seems like it would have immense amounts of musical and instrument maintenance utility. The aged finishes they make for them look very cool.

[@racron88]

Hey Guitar MAX Thank you for the awesome content I installed the FRX on my single cut Sawtooth with no issues just took my time and did some work on the strat style as well

[@nickrose7592]

I’ve heard about those bridges, but I’ve never had the pleasure of playing one. Another great video Maxx, I think I will definitely check one out. 👍🏻

[@BlazeGuitarLessons]

Wow I love the color scheme on that guitar! The gold and dark gray is gorgeous. Plus I love the sound.

[@erichartwell6792]

I love the original 1984 Floyd rose with brass fine tuners looks so awesome on my Jackson soloist and that new one is sick! If I had a Gibson I would get one for sure

[@69spiros]

PLZ do a video about Speedloader trem fail with the strings were not avalaible anymore...thank you

[@dennishaney6979]

I love the feel/control and over engineered look of the FRX. My complaints are added weight and getting the action set up low without fret buzz.

[@magicchessreplays8203]

Every details in on the description..thats a must subscribe dude.

[@michaelthomas9991]

Great review as always, Max. Watching this video, I am reminded of the old surface mounted Washburn Wonderbar trem system from the ‘80’s. They don’t look the same, but the FRX is functionally doing the same things. I have one of the old Washburn Wonderbars and it’s great when it’s all set up perfectly. However, it takes forever to string, tune, fine tune, redo, and so on, ad infinitum. Good luck.

[@Artcore103]

Wow I didn't know those existed... that thing is like my ideal bridge, it's perfect. Genius. I love it. Need to see them on mainline guitars like Ibanez and stuff.

[@musicmore5169]

Ok, the versatility we wanted from the Floyd rose ❤❤❤

[@AlexLimaca]

I've been looking the Floyd Rose FRX for years, it never convinced me. Then I drop on you video. Me: Sold! I'm buying one for my Les Paul like.

[@upreydeen]

It looks awesome, there are complaints about this bridge from the "divebomb" community in terms of range, I like to use the tremolo in a "gentle way", looks Goth to me and I really like all the features, plus the fact that the extra routing in the back is eliminated

[@thedude7726]

Of course they complain about anything. I love this thing and would 100% would own one if i could

[@flamedmahoganytable9749]

Idk the dive bomb range sounded convincing enough for the low strings. At least for me 🤷‍♂️

[@whitestripe484]

Dive-bombing is actually almost unlimited with that thing. You can tilt it 60 degrees forward with no trouble and it will get back.

[@gibsonexplorer8777]

It reminds me of the Kaller witch I have used for 35 years ever since they came out love it! This looks a lot like it...

[@KINGJADEX]

I just recently got a Les Paul CM Black with one of these, freaking love it!

[@SteveVLee]

Love you Max.

[@tomasotreasaigh111]

Another great video Max, keep up the good work and great playing. Peace from Ireland to you mo chara.

[@phenixreturns]

you forget to say the essential : you must create 2 holes in the head but floyd rose says not in fact they say you can use your locking tuners but it won't be perfect

[@chrisgentry7242]

I've always wanted a 1971 Gibson Les Paul custom black beauty and put a floyd rose frx system on it.

[@NewfieBulletDodger]

I have a Gibson CM Black with factory install. My favorite toy . Great review 👍

[@bentackett6299]

I've never played one but it seems to me that you could set the thumb screw in a position where when you pull up, it would stop in tune to where you set it. Like two semitones or something. I did that to my strat with a vintage trem by loosening the mounting screws and adjusting the springs. Or something like that, there's a video on how to do it. It's really nice to just pull it up until it stops and that's in tune

[@DAB3258]

What a clever piece of kit.

[@Tysandifer]

Just got mine in today, can't wait to put it on

[@VagendaAdnegav]

Awesome video! I'm sold on the FRX!

[@emperornortonii4726]

I actually have an epiphone v2 from the late 80's with an non-locking, non-fine tuner Floyd Rose. It's difficult to find the sweet spot for the setup

[@ricmadgar]

I recently got to know you Max, and I personally think, the way you speak and explain it’s just amazing. New subs right here. Quick question, do you teach music?

[@TheAxe4Ever]

Wow! Sawtooth doing something pretty unique! Maybe a little oddball kind of. But I’ve always been a bit of a lover of all things oddball. 😜

[@wordsmith451]

So you got me super into this so I am indeed buying a hardtail Ibanez for 350, swapping in this trem, and swapping out the Ibanez pups for Fishmans and the standard tuners for locking rotomatics. All chrome. Gonna look hot!

[@raredesign]

Excellent find! I was looking for a solution for my ESP Edwards, and thought about a Bigsby, but this looks like a win!

[@franks471]

yeah it'll be worth checking out, it is bulky looking though. My main question is how well it deals with up and down sliding motion caused by picking or string bending, little shifts in the bridge position render a lot of guitars unstable.. yeah call me nuts. Another thing, is the FR locking nut needs an overhaul. I would rather have a bone nut and a clamp behind it like Kahler did in the 80s. Again, micro-movements from just chording and picking..

[@Nugmania1]

Cool system, Max does the extra length on the scale eliminate ether untunable g string problem that you would have on every Les Paul ever made? Thanks Rik

[@Nugmania1]

Sorry ever untunable …. Hate spellcheck lol

[@Nugmania1]

You also have a phisher on your page

[@udertyrat]

Just pulled the trigger on one of these. Just waiting for it to arrive. What’s the fretboard radius? I assume it’s 12ish but I couldn’t find any info on it. Nice job with the video.

[@remczy]

I have been thinking of buying one to install on my Washburn WI566B. I've only tried one and it was enough. I think it's great.

[@spiritzweispirit1st638]

Thank You! Your such a Great splainer! Convinced' My Ever Embattled 'ex floyd' Prs just may live again!💪🎼🎸

[@thoughtsbeforesleep]

Very nice and thorough demo! I've never played one of these bridges but I do own that Halo guitar, in part because I wanted one ever since seeing it on your channel :)

[@ingonowack3839]

The FRX Vibrato combined with a Sustainer Pick-up looks like a very interesting idea 😘✌🏻🖖🏻! Need to admit, neither have I ever played a Guitar with the FRX, nor have I modified one of my Guitars 😀!

[@skyhorseprice6591]

@Ingo Nowack I just took delivery of a Schecter Sun Valley Super Shredder on the 12th of this month. I can tell you that the Sustainiac is a great tool for guitarists, and the guitar itself is one of the best I've ever owned.

[@Bob-of-Zoid]

Kahler made their super whammy for retrofitting Les Pauls and other Tune-O-Matic equipped guitars many decades ago way before Floyd Rose did. I have installed quite a few for clients over the years, and it rocks. Of course the Kahler's have a slightly smoother feel, and a slightly shorter range, so not as good with dive bombing, but many who don't do dive bombs prefer it, including myself. Oh, and anyone complaining that their Kahler doesn't stay in tune like it used to, then they never bothered to read the instructions, because it uses ball or needle bearings, not a knife edge pivot, and therefore requires occasional lubrication. A drop of oil (Not WD-40 but real machine oil) in a few spots, and it's good to go. It too isn't cheep, but well worth the price considering how much better both Floyd Rose's and Kahler's are than most others. kahler's can also be setup for just about any fingerboard radius, and is way easier to setup too with tools everyone should have, unlike the floyd's which need a special tool that is on the annoying and time consuming side to use. Now the Gohtoh version of a regular Floyd (not an FRX) is the best bang for your buck, because it too is really well built and even a lot smoother on your palm having more rounded off saddles. Too bad they don't make 7 and 8 string versions, at least not yet. Schaller who makes the Floyd rose originals has their own version of the original Floyd's; The Lockmeister which is built even better than the Floyd's, but also more expensive, and the best you can get.

[@dogslobbergardens6606]

I'm a Kahler guy all the way. The cam system is just butter. Whereas the knife-edge Floyd style always just feels wrong to me. My favorite guitar is an '84 Gibson Explorer with the stop-tailpiece Kahler installed at the factory. Gibson also built some Les Pauls with the Kahler, and for a year or two in the early 80s some of the bridges were actually stamped "Gibson." People that hate Kahlers typically just haven't had them set up properly. Kahler themselves have a couple videos on KZbin with Gary K himself showing how it's done. It's actually pretty straightforward once somebody shows you how, way easier - and more versatile - than tweaking a Floyd. I will say, the behind-the-nut stringlock that guitars with Kahlers typically use is kind of a pain. It locks just fine, and I like that it has a set screw for each string instead of three clamps, but if your nut isn't slotted correctly, you can still have issues with the strings binding after hard bends or trem-bar use. That's another factor I think a lot of people incorrectly blame on the Kahler bridge itself... they THINK the bridge is going out of tune, but what's probably really happening is the nut isn't cut right for the strings they're using and that's where the tuning problems come from. My understanding is that Kahler originally used a locking nut just like the Floyds, but they got sued over it. You can sometimes find those Kahler-marked Floyd-style locking nuts on the used market, and they're on guitars that have the Kahler Spyder, which is essentially a Floyd, knife-edge style bridge.

[@Bob-of-Zoid]

@@dogslobbergardens6606 I have been building and repairing guitars for over 40 years, and although I agree for the most part, the nut has nothing to do with the kahler string lock behind the nut not being as good as an actual locking nut, which you can install to use with a kahler. The old Kahlers do have 3 clamps not individual screws, but they are lever clamps, not screw clamps, and don't hold as well, and being behind the nut, and needing space, they reduce the string break angle at the nut, which can reduce sustain if too much, but that depends on the headstock angle too. What exactly would you change on how to cut the nut? It's cut to purpose, accept for that at the factory, most do not have the string slots cut deep enough to make up for wear, which isn't good for intonation and playability, and why I strongly recommend a brass (360 series the tough stuff, not soft so called "Musical" bell brass used in horns) or stainless steel for nuts, which I make all the time for guitars with bridges without fine tuners. They will last longer than most people have their guitar, or live! Sorry, but it's also false that most people don't like them because theirs isn't setup properly, which is easy to do, and any bridge can be setup bad, but because of the way the ball end and the windings that secure them to the string can stretch. Some people use solder to reinforce them, but I think it's ridiculous, and really a non issue. On modern strings (after 1984) the windings there are much tighter and stronger, and the real problem is the angle they come off at from the fine tuners. That can easily be fixed by pre-kinking the string end a bit, to take out any slack that can come out when going whammy happy. If you do that, the tiny bit more string compared to none at all on a Floyd Rose isn't going to make a difference at all and it's just more non scientific guitar snob bullshit, because they have no clue how to stretch strings to stabilize tuning in the first place, a Floyd rose can't fix that either! Sometimes I think it's like other guitar mythology, where some numpty started it, and a bunch of other numpties just believed it, and called it fact, including a bunch who never had a Kahler, or even a Floyd rose for that matter! It's only Bigsbies, Fenders especially jazz masters and jaguars, and really any whammy system that has more than an inch or two of excess string beyond the scale length that are more prone to tuning issues, and even there, less windings on the tuners with the windings tight up against each other, or locking tuners, and pre-stretching the strings helps a lot. Whatever happened to tuning by ear, and on the fly? It's all exaggerated nonsense. BTW: I know Garry Kahler personally, and have made suggestions for improvement he took to heart: The fine tune levers that hold the string ball end would eventually break with the low strings of heavy gauges, like the .013 to .058. sets I used, and he started using a stronger alloy, and just in time for 7 and 8 string guitars to become fashionable too. I machined new ones for my own guitar out of Stainless steel myself, and told him about it. I also left more meat near where they are held by a metal rod (the pivot) as there was plenty of room for it.

[@dogslobbergardens6606]

@@Bob-of-Zoid You've apparently misread what I said. Any conventional nut should be cut so that the string just barely slides through it without binding. You don't want it real sloppy but if any slot is too narrow the string will bind and cause tuning problems, I know you know that, it's guitar set-up 101. *The string-lock itself is fine* as I said. But if the NUT itself isn't right for the set of strings, the NUT will cause problems. And sometimes people blame the lock or the bridge when a simple dressing of the nut would fix their problem. I agree, the three-clamp canted locking nuts aren't great, that's why I said I like the six set screws on the Kahler behind-the-nut lock. I'll come back and look over your other comments as well. That's a lot to go through :)

[@Bob-of-Zoid]

@@dogslobbergardens6606 I didn't misread anything, but you made it sound like either most nuts are not cut right, or that adding a Kahler string lock requires the nut to be changed, which just isn't true. It also doesn't require string gauge changes either, so you just can't make that "The reason" without some evidence it's even true. Sure, I get DIY, and even a few "Professionally" cut ones that are botched I have to remedy at my shop, but most factory ones are good unless worn badly. So why not just say it's not the String locks fault, but any number of things, including user error? Actual Locking nuts are still technically better, because they replace the nut altogether, eliminating potential problems, and It also looks better not having a string tree that may require ditching or changing a truss rod cover, or obfuscating a logo... And Kahler only made them because Floyed Rose is sue happy! Did you know his first iterations had no fine tuners, but did have the locking nut making it pretty much useless without a few hours of tweaking before in tune right! And so a German company "Rockler" redesigned it to have fine tuners, and even changed the rest of it slightly, so way more than the legally required 10% change needed to not violate patent, and yet still lost the suit to Floyd? Yep, and that's when Rose took their design, in exchange for not making them pay the huge amount they had lost, and they took the deal instead of appealing the courts fallacious decision because they were like two guy's just getting started, and didn't have the funds... It's also when he started the "Licensing" thing and sued anyone and everyone he could, because it was lucrative! Well, his sole patent rights have meanwhile expired, and it's how others (Schaller, Gotoh) don't need the license anymore, and may just be why he has some new and different designs now; Business as usual. Rockler went on to make other improvements to guitar tech, and got big into customizing instruments for anyone wanting it... and not sure, but may still be around, possibly with a name change. I still prefer to use a Locking nut with a Kahler bridge though,because it replaces the nut altogether with one that will not wear hardly at all, and doesn't go in a bad spot and either mess with truss rod access and covers, or cover a logo... and it just looks better. I'd also rather not even deal with the rhetoric, and save my customers from it too if they agree.

[@dogslobbergardens6606]

@@Bob-of-Zoid good grief. You sure go a LONG way to blow simple statements out of proportion and argue about basically nothing. I DID say the stringlock itself is fine. Twice. And that most complaints about the Kahler are just the owner not knowing how to use/set them up. I've already been agreeing with all your basic points, for pete's sake. Relax.

[@MOSTGHALONE]

I wonder what the used resale market of those sawtooth guitars are? Would it make more sense to get a high-end Epiphone?

[@mikeg.9238]

Yeah i can't justify buying a Sawtooth guitar , i'd rather get a name brand...

[@adctestnonotreply6607]

I'm curious if someone has used both this Floyd Rose FRX and the Virtual Jeff digital whammy bar. Both can be installed on almost any guitar, and both will let you dive bomb without going out of tune. The difference is the Floyd Rose FRX (or any Floyd Rose whammy) does so by loosening the strings while the Virtual Jeff does not, opting instead to do the effect totally digitally. With the VJ, you keep your hard-tail bridge in tact. Thus with the strings not actually losening, the guitar does not go out of tune. They're both systems that will let you whammy as much as you want without going out of tune. They just do it in totally different ways. I would love to hear from someone who has used both so I could get an idea of which might be preferable.

[@Rikk_Klaww777]

I have 2 gold ones on both my Fernandes Ravelle models..love em.!!🤘🤘

[@bhasley5224]

Cool video, thanks for sharing! Very helpful in deciding on if I need to purchase one. Thank you!

[@D.Guitar]

The white one. With 24 frets. The FRT Floyd Rose... and 25" scale...is probably spec's out to my optimum standards. Stainless steel frets would be the on icing on a Perfect Axe

[@Louzahsol]

Been looking at one of these for my flying v

[@dayshellofficial]

No mods needed to install? Except for the fact you have to rout out wood under the trem spring. You can see the rout on this guitar. Great invention none the less. Love Floyd rose.

[@bradleyolinger1691]

@GuitarMaxMusic, I am looking at putting one on an Epi LP I am heavily modifying. Still undecided, but at least now I know it's not a bad move.

[@Behrater]

Hi, do you think, that the Tone Vise Pitch Shifter will fit into the Gap behind the low E-String-Screw?

[@Guitar_Smasher]

The bridge is ingenious. Getting one by buying a Sawtooth guitar is insane!

[@wayneturpen592]

I wonder how this compares to a Stets Bar bridge. The price point is about the same. Maybe a side by side comparison would be nice .. ???

[@manuelbinggeli5675]

@GuitarMAXMusic Thanks for the vidio, look super intresting to me. Do you know how it works with 54-10 strings on a Drop C Tunning. It would be importand the springs have enough strength for that.

[@Myrrhkuri]

i think it looks cool..my problem with sawtooth at the moment is i want the bit wilder body styles..i think it would look awesome having that on like a flying V style guitar

[@Obxhatman]

Buy a Jackson Flying V, cheaper model with a standard tremolo, then add this to it. Would be insanely good.

[@Myrrhkuri]

@@Obxhatman yeah but still that trem is 300$ and as he said if you don't do set ups probably a pain so gonna cost about 400 plus the other guitar getting it...better just buying it already, plus I think this has the locking nut too, which is not normally part of the package with the frx

[@SomeGuy-ih6po]

Get a Epiphone V. I got the newest explorer which is more or less the same. The bridge pick up will need a upgrade (the neck pick up is alright) but it comes with Grovers and a graft tech nut, the pots are good quality, stays in tune. Only comes in black. Ive had mine for two years and its holding up. It's 650 for a pretty solid guitar definitely worth putting a few hundred in to.

[@hetfield2x4]

i retrofitted my FRX on two of my Gibson SG's. One must be careful because you can dent your guitar where that big spring thing is. It's odd because on one of my SG's it doesnt touch the body at all and it left a dent on my other SG (I have identical SG's so not sure how that happened). If you try to put it on a curved surface such as a Les Paul, you can risk damaging the surface of your guitar. Dents can also, actually WILL happen on the two posts in front of the bridge. It comes with some plastic sticky discs that are supposed to help prevent the denting, but believe me it will leave two dents. The FRX has too much pressure for that area for those plastic discs, allthough the discs help lessen the dents. Besides that though, if you understand the mechanics of and how to set up an original Floyd Rose, you will understand how to set this up. I recommend watching the official video for the FRX, where Floyd Rose (the creator, yes he's an actual person and that's his name), goes through set up. I like the thumbwheel that lets you go dive only mode, which comes in handy for string changes and initial setup. The trem bar feels alot smoother vs traditional Floyd Roses, but less range also. One last thing; though not part of the bridge, the locking nut it comes with is different from this vid and imo isn't as good. You screw the locking nut it comes with behind your regular nut and mines doesn't lock as well as a traditionally routed FR locking nut.

[@joetheman74]

Gibson in 2016 made the SG CM that came with an FRX installed from the factory. Sometimes still today you can find Gibsons with an FRX installed from the Gibson Mod Shop or the Gibson Demo shop straight from Gibson with a warranty.

[@DuckyGTonYT]

It sounds incredibly articulate.

[@presmasterflash7555]

I have one. Still on the fence about it. Doesn’t always zero out properly. I haven’t messed with it much so might just be a setup issue.

[@ny7294]

Once they are setup properly, they float , flutter and return to zero

[@patrickshannon4516]

It looks like the Bigsby tailpiece and a floyd rose combined. Is the neck wide on that guitar it looks like it is?

[@johnskerlec9663]

Nice. I want one on my next build.

[@kevincrozier8625]

Hey Max. Have you heard or even tried the Floyd Rose guitar? I am just now hearing about it. Can't find anybody really checking it out.

[@lauromunoz4692]

Does the FRX fit/work with the BC Rich Warlock? Mine has a stop tail like a Les Paul. Thank you, L. Albert Munoz

[@GuitarMAXMusic]

Yes, I think it should work great. Your Warlock is a flat top body right?

[@lauromunoz4692]

Yes it it the flat top😎👍

[@jerlu69]

Great stuff as always Max!! Thank you!!

[@GuitarMAXMusic]

My pleasure!

[@fraterlemuele.s.l.d.6435]

I have a Gibson Les Paul Special Florentine Custom Purple/Magenta Love Burst all gold Sperzel Locking Tuners Trimlok with Mother of Pearl peg heads,Marty Friedman Signature EMG pickup set in Gold with the solderless system,Gold Finish Floyd Rose FRX and let’s not forget to mention that depending on the finish to the bridge it will determine the price points,Satin Gold being the Highest Korean Made Bridge,But then you have the Titanium which is at $3k.Overall,it’s an exceptional bridge which can be made to float or just fixed to dive bomb.Love it.

[@rubbertoedesigns6134]

Yo, love your work man, what effects have you used on your GTX100, sounds mint