We Need To Talk About The Horrifying ImAllexx Situation

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@ezzy384
@ezzy384 6 ай бұрын
Who would've thought that the guy who made false rape accusations against his friend would turn out to not be a great person.
@Keznen
@Keznen 6 ай бұрын
Exactly. Unsubscribed from his ass right after that happened. Pretty sure he never even apolologized either.
@asdasdae
@asdasdae 6 ай бұрын
@@Keznen not only did he not apologize, he doubled down. What a guy.
@jasperjazzie
@jasperjazzie 6 ай бұрын
it's crazy how easily a lot of people forget this kind of stuff. it's like as soon as "youtuber drama" isn't a hot topic anymore or whatever it might as well have not happened in the eyes of a lot of people and they go back to supporting them, and no consequences actually happen. i just hope people actually care this time, even after videos stop being made about it.
@amaryllisputrik.2521
@amaryllisputrik.2521 6 ай бұрын
​@@asdasdae wait, who did he accuse?
@fawnieee
@fawnieee 6 ай бұрын
​@@jasperjazzie I've literally seen so many people defend his friends like memeulous, saying they "just didn't know!" As they weren't the ones that were goading and advising Slazo's ex to get him cancelled
@sadmermaid
@sadmermaid 6 ай бұрын
Men can LITERALLY be caught in 4k, and people still don't believe her or vict blame.
@elriano1
@elriano1 6 ай бұрын
Men are sceptical whenever allegations like this are made because women lie about abuse a lot - take the GeorgeNotFound situation from only a few months ago. If you want this perception to change, go after the women who lie about abuse. With the evidence that Alice has, no one is defending ImAlexxx he's clearly a domestic abuser. I haven't seen anyone defending him, but then again, I'm not on Twitter.
@yeebler
@yeebler 6 ай бұрын
@@elriano1 check the comments section of his most recent video if the comments are still up. there are guys in the comment threads all talking about "finally putting women in their place" and "women moment" etc. you're still STILL blaming her by saying we should go after the women. we DO. we go after them. we will deal with the lying women, you deal with your men who abuse.
@dutchik5107
@dutchik5107 6 ай бұрын
​@@elriano1you know false accusations are like really rare. Sure quite often when it is reported to the police or even goes to court, the abuser will not be persecuted. Not being able to gatver enough solid evidence, and being believed not blamed etc. Doesn't mean it didn't happen.
@cami_triz83
@cami_triz83 6 ай бұрын
​@@yeebler ate
@urfatherty
@urfatherty 6 ай бұрын
@@elriano1do you people ever shut up. stop turning this into “women lie!” and start caring about real stuff. crybabies
@waitinginawaterfall
@waitinginawaterfall 6 ай бұрын
Let’s say she WAS clout chasing. What he said still wasn’t okay!!!! That argument is so insane to me.
@GudetamaSit
@GudetamaSit 6 ай бұрын
It was terrifying to listen to that clip. I've always seen Alex as a pathetic, cruel little man, but that freaked me out something terrible.
@sunnyandthechlo
@sunnyandthechlo 6 ай бұрын
Yeah exactly! There’s still video evidence. Was she clout chasing then? And is clout chasing worse than what he was doing?
@Ciaran-ej7lw
@Ciaran-ej7lw 6 ай бұрын
He was abusive anyone saying she clout chasing or wait for context are small brained morons.
@plasticjesus444
@plasticjesus444 6 ай бұрын
The whole clout chasing argument has always been so absurd to me. I can’t image anyone seeking the type of “clout” one earns from coming forward with abuse allegations aka a bombardment of harassment, victim blaming, and people calling you a liar. (to be clear I agree with you, not trying to come across as combative I just wanted to point out flaws in the whole clout chasing argument)
@muggleintheupsidedown
@muggleintheupsidedown 6 ай бұрын
Yeah allllllll the videos, voice recordings, etc proving that he was abusive(he admits to it and verbally abuses/threatens her), is enough to say he’s a piece of shit.
@DogMechanic
@DogMechanic 6 ай бұрын
"they don't seem like the type of guy" lol Ah, yes, every person who's dated an abuser met their partner and thought "this guy seems like the type to abuse me" and that's what sealed the deal, right? If abusers "seemed like the type", no abuser would have a partner to abuse.
@ensommeille5315
@ensommeille5315 6 ай бұрын
that's also why it's so hard for a lot of abuse victims to come out and talk about it, because abusers are so good at keeping up their façade that to everyone else it often comes as a surprise. or, even if it isn't totally a surprise, there's always some rationalisation; "but he was nice to ME?"
@misslenorelee6322
@misslenorelee6322 6 ай бұрын
Thats the hard part alot of your friends will love your abuser.... they dont see the other side
@kissarococo2459
@kissarococo2459 6 ай бұрын
My ex bragged how charming he was. And he was a social butterfly. He said nice things about me to acquiantances without me present, nothing if I was present and awful shit when we were alone. And nice things to my face after break-up because he was scared of my brothers finding out.
@FocusedFighter777
@FocusedFighter777 6 ай бұрын
And yet, you know a lot of M's immediate response is: "Chose better next time, it's your fault !😂😂" .......always the same.
@cami_triz83
@cami_triz83 6 ай бұрын
​​@@FocusedFighter777 and then women get more selective... and men complain that theyre too selective. Those men just hate women and are incapable of developing any empathy towards them. They can never win
@CallmeMelinanow
@CallmeMelinanow 6 ай бұрын
What I’ve learned, as an abuse survivor myself, is that people are sympathetic to the idea of an abuse victim, but they don’t always embrace the actual women who come forward. I understand why I was so quiet. People think that having a good coping mechanisms is lying. What about how fake he is in public? Some can’t win. Hopefully this can get better.
@RachelOates
@RachelOates 6 ай бұрын
This is an excellent point, thank you for sharing it!!
@hazelsingh3887
@hazelsingh3887 6 ай бұрын
Absolutely, this is a huge issue that has been raised in the last few years, and it’s because you can imagine a perfect victim but there are no perfect victims in real life.
@izur020
@izur020 6 ай бұрын
I agree but you also have to understand there is a reason as to why people don't always embrace it. Sexual assault and emotional abuse allegations have been weaponized. These type of allegations are life destroying whether they are true or not. However I do believe that when someone comes forward you should assume it is the truth and then work from there.
@maybemablemaples2144
@maybemablemaples2144 6 ай бұрын
​@izur020 they have not but you keep telling yourself that.
@ensommeille5315
@ensommeille5315 6 ай бұрын
​@@izur020false accusations are extremely rare and yet they're all anyone wants to focus on, sometimes proof isn't enough for people who don't wanna see the truth 🙄 saying "but some people lie!" isn't at all productive because most of us do not
@maeror1022
@maeror1022 6 ай бұрын
Men like ImAllexx should not be let within 100m of a woman under any circumstances.
@Randomstuffs261
@Randomstuffs261 6 ай бұрын
I propose a ban of men like Alex from being 40.075 million miles from a woman under any circumstances (40.075 is the circumference of Planet Earth)
@imbluedubbadee
@imbluedubbadee 6 ай бұрын
Good thing he's bi then 🙄 I do have to wonder if he'd treat a male partner like this 🤔
@Keznen
@Keznen 6 ай бұрын
@imbluedubbadee He probably would. He's got empathy for no one, and this isn't the first time he's shown his true colors.
@Cruity
@Cruity 6 ай бұрын
people like alex*** people*** has nothing to do with gender hun. Don’t speak on things you have no business speaking on
@tiredchickpea8298
@tiredchickpea8298 6 ай бұрын
Or animals
@Feynix4
@Feynix4 6 ай бұрын
He threatened to bash his partners head in with a brick and people are still going to watch him? HUH?????
@FabricFool
@FabricFool 6 ай бұрын
Yeah, I have wracked my brain to find a suitable context and there just ain’t one.
@candy-ninja
@candy-ninja 5 ай бұрын
People (men mostly though) are allergic to holding each other accountable
@optiquemusic6204
@optiquemusic6204 5 ай бұрын
I don't even know if you can meme or make fun of this. What Alex said and did is too messed up.
@L3onking
@L3onking 6 ай бұрын
I don't understand how anyone can say this is "clout chasing"? Victims arent paraded around getting success. They are shunned. Frankly this is the opposite of clout chasing
@Lisa-dv1xn
@Lisa-dv1xn 6 ай бұрын
EXACTLY
@Kayleigh789
@Kayleigh789 6 ай бұрын
Even if she was (she’s not), it does not automatically mean she’s lying.
@Lisa-dv1xn
@Lisa-dv1xn 6 ай бұрын
@@Kayleigh789 But like... what clout could you possibly get??
@Kayleigh789
@Kayleigh789 6 ай бұрын
@@Lisa-dv1xn I have no idea to be honest. My point was more so a retort to people who say shit like that.
@Lisa-dv1xn
@Lisa-dv1xn 6 ай бұрын
@@Kayleigh789 Ik what you meant dw 😌
@Luci_loves_Bangtan
@Luci_loves_Bangtan 6 ай бұрын
The night I went to request an arrest warrant for my ex for physical and s*xual assault, the magistrate looked me right in the eye and told me I was lying because I waited more than 24 hrs to report it. It’s so disheartening when even the cops who are supposed to “protect and serve” make you feel like garbage.
@icravedeath.1200
@icravedeath.1200 6 ай бұрын
Yet another thing where Scandinavian countries are running entire NASCAR circuits around us. Tried to edit but it failed to post
@ensommeille5315
@ensommeille5315 6 ай бұрын
I was searching online trying to find how many abuse reports are fake and somehow came across the website of the MET police (who already have an awful reputation, Sarah Everard RIP) and they say right there "Officers should bear in mind the possibility that the relationship is a mutually abusive one". Makes my blood boil. Treating reactive abuse like it's just as severe as the abuse that got the victim to that point is vile. But it makes sense given the horrendously high amount of police that are violent abusers themselves; the statistics speak volumes. I'm sorry this happened to you and I hope you're in a better place now
@icravedeath.1200
@icravedeath.1200 6 ай бұрын
@@ensommeille5315 I find it funny that my comment is now lacking context because the first half got deleted
@louistown7835
@louistown7835 6 ай бұрын
​@ensommeille5315 i was a witness in a SA case and went to court. The MET were very hard to deal with and got stuff wrong multiple times. Frustrating.
@MrBooYa-yd5er
@MrBooYa-yd5er 6 ай бұрын
Women aren’t entitled to protection.
@warlordofbritannia
@warlordofbritannia 6 ай бұрын
82 pages of documentation is horrifying. To not only think about what she had to emotionally process while compiling that, but also what she must have left out…I can’t imagine such a doubly harrowing experience.
@fujoshipeanut5074
@fujoshipeanut5074 6 ай бұрын
The fact she needed to compile any document in the first place is horrifying. People are still writing her off and blaming her even _with_ the evidence
@mrsCRD
@mrsCRD 6 ай бұрын
Poor girl is damned if she does and damned if she doesn't.
@whims6278
@whims6278 6 ай бұрын
This is a really good point. I think so many abuse victims dissociate and the abuse becomes so normalized amd such a blur that we forget half of the abuse that actually occurred. What we are seeing is probably only the half of it
@subrosa4792
@subrosa4792 6 ай бұрын
@@whims6278just the tip of the iceberg. This cowardly & violent man stuff always happens behind closed doors.
@adamfaulkner-stanheight6628
@adamfaulkner-stanheight6628 6 ай бұрын
"You should lie down like a good dog" gave me goosebumps. That's what my abuser told me, albeit with different words, with the silent threat of "If you don't, I'll get much worse". I actually watched that guy's videos, but I won't be doing that going forward. What he did is unforgivable.
@cassettetape7643
@cassettetape7643 6 ай бұрын
The matter-of-fact way he said it too, threw me off at first. Like that's how it's normal for him to speak. I wasn't computing how serious he was being until just before he started yelling. The whole thing was very chilling. (For context, I've never watched this person before)
@shannond1511
@shannond1511 6 ай бұрын
Tells you what kinda person he is. He can act like a tough guy to ppl he’s brainwashed into it because in the real world, he’d get hit right in the mouth for talking to ppl like that and he’s a twig. When 99% of ppl could snap you like a twig, they’re sure to come down on that 1% to make them feel big.
@aimeewank7859
@aimeewank7859 6 ай бұрын
Yeah that was rough huh? My ex of 7 years who basically over time brainwashed me, did a similar but worse thing. He’d come home very late, drunk, and start a stupid fight with me. And I’d tell him to just go to sleep, let’s just lay down and we could talk in the morning, blah blah all that bullshit we say to try to chill them out. Then after a while, I’d think he passed out, but he’d kick me right it the lower back (he had a whole head of height and 100 lbs of muscle and mass on me) out of bed and say “get on the floor with the dogs where you belong”. wtf is with them equating the women they “love” with dogs?! I’m sorry that happened to you. But look how strong we are, and I bet your ex is living a shitty life, he deserves to. And this new one? I used to watch him, he’s 2 totally different personalities….. and He’s a slimy little shit isn’t he? Much Love, friend. 💪🏽💜✌🏽
@jtothep4234
@jtothep4234 6 ай бұрын
Yes, that was the worst quote for me. He's treating her like an object to control, not a person to respect.
@caltheidiot2593
@caltheidiot2593 6 ай бұрын
i didn't realise he was even already known as problematic, thanks for letting us know what's been going on, not watching him anymore.
@accioenchiladas
@accioenchiladas 6 ай бұрын
samee, as i said on another video i only found him a few months back and all of the content i watched seemed okay so i had no idea 😬
@sillygo0oser
@sillygo0oser 6 ай бұрын
Cant believe people still watched him after slazzo. He’s been problematic since the 2010s
@alyxluvss
@alyxluvss 6 ай бұрын
@@sillygo0oseri had no idea about that situation it’s horrible 😭😭
@pastaisgood6681
@pastaisgood6681 6 ай бұрын
@@alyxluvsssame I had no clue
@Punkrockpenguin2
@Punkrockpenguin2 6 ай бұрын
Yeah me neither but things seemed kinda off for some reason
@winterfreas7504
@winterfreas7504 6 ай бұрын
"Seperate the art from the arist" often just rewards really shitty behaviors
@mikalcarruthers
@mikalcarruthers 6 ай бұрын
Yeah. They did the same thing with the R Kelly shit and now the Diddy shit. Like when will it stop? The art shouldn't even matter when the artist is a shitty and disgusting person
@jinxmaylen6906
@jinxmaylen6906 6 ай бұрын
Personally, I think it’s okay to separate the art from the artist when said artist is dead. Only then.
@nIhIl34
@nIhIl34 6 ай бұрын
there is no art in commentary...
@DM-nw5lu
@DM-nw5lu 6 ай бұрын
@@jinxmaylen6906 Pretty much. I like some of HP Lovecraft's work. But replace his alien and monstrous creatures with POC and you pretty much have his view on POC in the US. He was wildly xenophobic, racist and white supremacist. But I also agree with nihil... Alex' videos were not art lmao.
@grimmick9446
@grimmick9446 6 ай бұрын
​@@jinxmaylen6906I think I can get behind that lol
@elvingearmasterirma7241
@elvingearmasterirma7241 6 ай бұрын
ah the joys of being a suvivor. You can have ALL THE EVIDENCE in the world. But for some it will still never be enough. And frankly those kinds of people makes me side eye them and their own relationships.
@RachelOates
@RachelOates 6 ай бұрын
Completely agree! Another thing I didn't touch on but wish I had were the people saying 'but this is just 'banter', me and my partner say stuff like this all the time' - that genuinely makes me worry for those people and I hope they're ok!
@warlordofbritannia
@warlordofbritannia 6 ай бұрын
@@RachelOates If that’s “banter” I don’t want to know what a serious conversation would be.
@elvingearmasterirma7241
@elvingearmasterirma7241 6 ай бұрын
@@RachelOates Reminds me of my father who acts like its just jokes and debates. Meanwhile its him belittling me and even "joking" about hurting my cats and my dog in various ways. And he doesnt debate or conversate. He talks at me and if he doesnt like anything he will get nasty. And I dont even need to say anything. Car rides are the _w o r s t_
@elvingearmasterirma7241
@elvingearmasterirma7241 6 ай бұрын
@@creature-materialiser May that family lawyer forever have soggy socks
@FocusedFighter777
@FocusedFighter777 6 ай бұрын
Plus since u collected evidence, they'll acuse to premidate it.... They make it so that you cant win, the system protects M.
@gilbej91
@gilbej91 6 ай бұрын
My ex broke his hand punching the floor, broke a door, put holes in the walls, broke photo frames and window frames. When he finally told me he was having a full blown affair (after another massive lie), I hit a wall. I spent a year being abused and it all came out. And when I point out how violent he was, he ALWAYS said "but you hit a wall too". He used it as a tactic to keep me quiet (I was scared of him when he was raging), I did it as a reaction to all of it. It makes me SO angry that an abuser will take your breaking point as equal to months and months of abuse. 😔😔
@clairedear8320
@clairedear8320 6 ай бұрын
This is called reactionary abuse. They push you to the limit till you snap and then can say you're the bad guy. Sorry you had to go through that ❤
@icravedeath.1200
@icravedeath.1200 6 ай бұрын
I don't get why, as a society, we don't push and help young men into developing self-awareness. Could go a long way towards preventing shit like this.
@gilbej91
@gilbej91 6 ай бұрын
@clairedear8320 yes, it was horrible but almost 2 years free now and I've never been happier. Thankyou!
@gilbej91
@gilbej91 6 ай бұрын
@icravedeath.1200 I'm not sure self-awareness could help someone who is a compulsive liar, a thief and an abuser. But I do believe men need to be taught/learn how to effectively resolve their anger and trauma so they don't traumatise others.
@icravedeath.1200
@icravedeath.1200 6 ай бұрын
@@gilbej91 my point exactly, and making sure they develop stuff like self-awareness, self-compassion and humility are important steps to achieving that, as well as not being afraid to recognise and express signs of remorse. That's why I'm an advocate for deconstructing patriarchal strangleholds over emotion, it's a regressive idea that benefits no one and hurts everyone. Having to do all that while still living with the people who traumatised you is a bitch tho lol (can say from experience). I'm going through an episode atm so sorry if my points don't come across great.
@nonenone4862
@nonenone4862 6 ай бұрын
That clip of him telling her to lay down like a good dog!? My jaw dropped. I watched him casually a few years ago and never would have guessed. That's what abusers do best though.
@Milo-it1tf
@Milo-it1tf 6 ай бұрын
It’s probably a weird kink thing for him, some people are in to treating their significant other as a dog, but I could be wrong
@frozenraspberries1552
@frozenraspberries1552 6 ай бұрын
@Milo-it1tf Occums razor bud. That's a leap in logic. She's sniffling and gently correcting him to treat her nicer. I would not give the benefit of the doubt that it's kink.
@Milo-it1tf
@Milo-it1tf 6 ай бұрын
@frozenraspberries1552 I’m just saying that as wired enough as he is I wouldn’t be surprised if it was a kink thing, mind you I said if, I know what he did, I have eyes and ears
@Milo-it1tf
@Milo-it1tf 6 ай бұрын
@frozenraspberries1552 I don’t even know what Occums razor is, so that flew over my head
@dunjunart
@dunjunart 6 ай бұрын
@@Milo-it1tf respectfully you seem a bit young for something this serious are you okay at home
@Louves192
@Louves192 6 ай бұрын
Some people will twist themselves in a pretzel to defend abusers.
@joshuacoleman8000
@joshuacoleman8000 6 ай бұрын
Yep!
@iamtoxic4663
@iamtoxic4663 5 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂
@TheManInTheLongBlackCoat
@TheManInTheLongBlackCoat 6 ай бұрын
When men make a claim against a woman, social media usually says “I always knew she was like that” and “This is what women are like,” whereas when women make a claim against a man they get “Are you sure you weren’t leading him on with your clothes?” and “Let’s hear both sides before we come to any conclusions.”
@JeyneHanna
@JeyneHanna 6 ай бұрын
I've seen more cases of when the man is accused people believe the victim even when they are a big KZbinr. I can give a few examples such as Slazo, Kwite, Dream, and Inquisitor (who sadly took his own life).
@Milo-it1tf
@Milo-it1tf 6 ай бұрын
You do know Kwite is innocent right? Cause he made an hour long video showing proof that the accusations were lies
@easy8690
@easy8690 6 ай бұрын
We should hear both sides before we come to conclusions. It's stupid not to. We need to here a response from the accused before we can judge.
@JeyneHanna
@JeyneHanna 6 ай бұрын
@@Milo-it1tf I never said he was guilty but when he was accused everyone believed his accuser. I used it as an example of everyone believing accusations about a man.
@tell_it_like_it_is4953
@tell_it_like_it_is4953 6 ай бұрын
That's not true. I hate it when people make it a competition of who has it harder when I know first-hand that men are not believed when they come forward. I knew a guy who was assaulted by a girl at a party and didn't believe it because women can't assault men. That's not to take away from female victims. There are also countless stories of students being assaulted by female teachers who don't get taken seriously. i have heard "he actually enjoyed it" or "he should be lucky to score with an older hotter woman" or "he's a man he can overpower her".
@christyn_noir
@christyn_noir 6 ай бұрын
@20ish min PERIOD. I'm so tired of people saying "well, in most abusive relationships, both people are abusing each other" as though it somehow excused the actual abuser. Reactive abuse really shouldn't be considered abuse when the victim never would have behaved that way outside of self-defense.
@Keznen
@Keznen 6 ай бұрын
Anyone who says "most" are like that is a grade A moron. True mutual abuse does exist but it is *extremely* rare, and reactive "abuse" (really don't even consider it abuse) is *not* a form of it.
@Tobelia
@Tobelia 6 ай бұрын
Exactly this. I was watching a livestream yesterday where someone was both-sidesing it by coming up with more and more imaginary scenarios where she could have been just as bad. It was absolutely infuriating. Waiting for the full story is one thing, victim blaming and scrabbling for excuses is another.
@user-unfriendly_-o-
@user-unfriendly_-o- 6 ай бұрын
That's the best example for people who ask "how could you not notice they were abusive?" He portrayed himself as such a sympathetic guy and "believe the victims" type of person. Abusers don't act like villians, they act like "nice people" until the door is closed
@impposter560
@impposter560 6 ай бұрын
Yeah. My dad was a cryer, very performative emotionally at any kind of public event. People thought he was so soft and gentle for that. But he never let us cry, or emote much at all, so whenever we tried to tell anyone, he would just turn on the waterworks and people would rush to make excuses for him. "He feels so deeply, especially for a man" kind of thing. While his wife and children had been trained to be stoic on punishment of mockery or pain. Abusers always present themselves as either righteous or sympathetic or gentle. And they tend to believe those lies too
@FabricFool
@FabricFool 6 ай бұрын
How can you not see he’s a lying liar who lies, a sexual abuser, felon, fraudster, conman, and traitor to his country. The evidence is all around you, girl. Wait, who are we talking about again?
@katyawc
@katyawc 6 ай бұрын
I watched this guy like 17 million years ago and just had a vague feeling that things were... off. Glad I decided to stop watching him!
@BBB-to4cc
@BBB-to4cc 6 ай бұрын
Same!!! I stopped watching about 2-3 yrs ago bc I just got an off feeling I can put a finger on it. Now I know
@Punkrockpenguin2
@Punkrockpenguin2 6 ай бұрын
Me too, i guess that's what everyone though idk what it was about him
@jasmine82
@jasmine82 6 ай бұрын
my exact experience, sometimes you just get a vibe and it's right so disgusting what he's done it's horrific
@bogeymanbear
@bogeymanbear 6 ай бұрын
Same here! I think he made a comment about trans people or soemthing and that just turned me off him for forever
@mariaquiet6211
@mariaquiet6211 6 ай бұрын
He just sounds kinda obnoxious
@Maevenclaw
@Maevenclaw 6 ай бұрын
One thing that bothers me in situations like this is the public reaction “go to the police” and some say “file a restraining order”, but we live in society that always jumps to victim blaming, the police barely do anything, and a restraining order is not a force field. Victims of abuse live in fear and going to the police, filing a restraining order can and often does make the abuser angrier, many end up killing their victims because of it. Leaving an abusive situation is not easy and can lead to a life threatening situation. Anyone who thinks it’s as easy as filing a police report has no empathy or has never been abused in their lives or never seen first hand what abuse can do. It’s not that easy and speaking up about it, especially against someone with a following, takes an enormous amount of courage.
@roxassora2706
@roxassora2706 6 ай бұрын
Yes.
@iamtoxic4663
@iamtoxic4663 5 ай бұрын
Truly. Thats why I still cry talking about my own abuse.
@Kalikaz1996
@Kalikaz1996 6 ай бұрын
Alice is so strong, she left and that’s so powerful for a woman in her position. I really hope she can heal from this :(
@spiceupyourafterlife
@spiceupyourafterlife 6 ай бұрын
I don't like the term "reactive abuse" either because it not only blames the victim, but validates the abuser. One of the common ways abusers gaslight their victims is by finding away under their skin until they snap. If the victim doesn't react quickly or dramatically enough, the abuser will continue to poke, prod, push, and pull at the victim until they get the reaction that they want (i.e. anger) so they can use that reaction as fodder to frame themselves as the victim and the *real* victim as the abuser. So, instead of calling it "reactive abuse," I'd rather just call it what it is: a reaction to gaslighting.
@violet7773
@violet7773 6 ай бұрын
Some groups call it "reactive violence" now, instead of "reactive abuse", to avoid exactly the BS narrative that abusers try to push
@lordfreerealestate8302
@lordfreerealestate8302 6 ай бұрын
Or self-defense. DARVO is very real, and it's often the abusers claim to be the real victims. Or gaslight/guilt the victim into actually believing it.
@rosalind2401
@rosalind2401 6 ай бұрын
I also think theres a huge difference between still liking an award winning artists work but not giving them money, and being loyal to a random drama channel where the same topics are covered by dozens of other drama youtubers
@marianhalcombe3305
@marianhalcombe3305 6 ай бұрын
Agreed. Enjoying Alex's content is literally enjoying his personality, whereas an artist usually has a team of people who make the art good... and the art usually isn't the artist itself. With Alex, the "art" is the “artist“.
@stefanforrer2573
@stefanforrer2573 6 ай бұрын
eh i don't know.... who could still enjoy the lost prophets after knowing what ian watkins has done?
@Thebaldocelot
@Thebaldocelot 6 ай бұрын
​@@stefanforrer2573Me and a friend had this exact same argument. I also brought up the Lost Prophets trumpcard. Go on. Defend it now 😂
@rosalind2401
@rosalind2401 6 ай бұрын
@@stefanforrer2573 I was thinking more of the harry Potter debate - a book series led to not just movies but millions of fanfic and fan art, dedicated blogs, Etsy shops, some restaurants/bars, clubs, professional quidditch, plus a theme park. All of that vs...a random guy on KZbin
@shannond1511
@shannond1511 6 ай бұрын
Kinda like the ppl that say “I don’t agree with everything he says, but Jordan Peterson has such great advice!” Like please, there are so many other ppl that can tell you to make your bed and be responsible.
@inosvx
@inosvx 6 ай бұрын
alex's voice is so irritating. i literally can't stand him
@ikindoflikemangoes4951
@ikindoflikemangoes4951 6 ай бұрын
He sounds like he has a stuffy nose 24/7
@SoCalJellybean
@SoCalJellybean 6 ай бұрын
That, along with the lisp, absolutely not. 😵‍💫
@AriSenthil
@AriSenthil 6 ай бұрын
it's so nasally, i've always hated it
@Stardustuk
@Stardustuk 6 ай бұрын
Yeah, let's hate people for physical attributes and medical issues WTF is wrong with you!!! He gave us legitimate reasons to hate him and these are your comments?!!
@cosmictraveler1146
@cosmictraveler1146 6 ай бұрын
Misophonia is not loving it lmao
@michalinasompolska8763
@michalinasompolska8763 6 ай бұрын
Not your baby noticing how upset you are at the 12-13 minute mark and coming to check on you. She is an angel in a fur suit.
@imbluedubbadee
@imbluedubbadee 6 ай бұрын
19:10 do they not know that people with bpd flock to abusive people in high numbers? Her having BPD almost backs up the liklihood of her story, not discredit it!?
@lilmorsecody
@lilmorsecody 6 ай бұрын
These incidents always expose how little the average person knows about DV and victims. Yet they still want to comment on it as if they do know. It's like they're brainrotted to talk about all this as if its "drama" and "tea."
@PetraP01
@PetraP01 6 ай бұрын
I was looking if somebody made this comment! Every time I see people talk about BPD online, it's always "they're the worst, they're abusive, unstable, they'll fuck you over, avoid them like a plague!" and while sure, people with BPD can be awful and abusive, they are also prime targets for abusive relationships, just like you pointed out. Having BPD doesn't automatically make you an awful person.
@FabricFool
@FabricFool 6 ай бұрын
@@PetraP01 (I’m sorry, I always have to ask: BPD. Bipolar Disorder or borderline personality disorder? I always read one and it’s always the other but I can never remember which)
@theunderstatement6842
@theunderstatement6842 6 ай бұрын
​@@FabricFoolbpd is borderline, bipolar is always just bipolar
@imbluedubbadee
@imbluedubbadee 6 ай бұрын
@@FabricFool that's why me and most ppl I know have started saying bipo and BPD to differentiate its hard with acronyms 🤣
@JamieLydon
@JamieLydon 6 ай бұрын
Those clips of him yelling at her genuinely activated my fight or flight. Good for her for speaking out about it, unbelievable that people are saying she’s clout chasing when she probably just wants him to not be able to do it to anyone else
@Nicgross
@Nicgross 6 ай бұрын
This is why we don't come forward. Took me 25 years to say anything, and I still haven't named the people who raped and SA'd me.
@warlordofbritannia
@warlordofbritannia 6 ай бұрын
Wait, wasn’t this guy outted years ago? Did he not stay outted or something? Edit: Yup, Rachel brings it up about two minutes in. Turns out he was, at best, projecting his own issues, or actively obfuscating.
@RachelOates
@RachelOates 6 ай бұрын
It's sadly got way worse
@warlordofbritannia
@warlordofbritannia 6 ай бұрын
@@RachelOates Go figure that the guy who’d lie about a serious issue would be a practitioner himself 😒
@HeidiSholl
@HeidiSholl 6 ай бұрын
He only started to be advertised to me by the algorithm at the time of the Colleen drama, so I watched his videos on that and a couple more since. I was totally unaware because although I'm sure there were videos out about him already, I didn't really care enough about him to actively find them, and they were never recommended to me. I wish I had so I wouldn't gave supported him financially for as long as I did.
@cv6442
@cv6442 6 ай бұрын
​@@HeidiShollI think they recommended me his videos because I watched iNabber. I'm so shocked... I never knew!
@LadyKnightMare
@LadyKnightMare 6 ай бұрын
⁠@@cv6442same here, I’ve only just started watching some of his videos from youtube recommended and I haven’t heard of any of this
@ju4rez
@ju4rez 6 ай бұрын
Ive only seen men talking about Alex, FINALLY a woman’s perspective
@Roadent1241
@Roadent1241 6 ай бұрын
So now we believe because a different sort of person says the same thing?
@ju4rez
@ju4rez 6 ай бұрын
@@Roadent1241 I’ve been believing Alice. I’m just saying I’m tired of the same “red pilled” men talking about something they know nothing about/ have no experience with.
@Roadent1241
@Roadent1241 6 ай бұрын
@@ju4rez I'm understanding that the guys have been going "nah mate something wrong with him" and everybody's been ignoring them but one lass comes out and suddenly everybody takes him seriously as a bad guy?
@Milo-it1tf
@Milo-it1tf 6 ай бұрын
@ju4rez nah, that’s not what red pill means, to me it means being a person that supports gay rights and trans rights
@TiaRoxx
@TiaRoxx 6 ай бұрын
Except rachel the other people who covered this were either 'edgy' commentary ytbers or creatore getting off of the fact that they are finally getting petty yt revenge.
@maxwellgrimsley
@maxwellgrimsley 6 ай бұрын
This is the first time I’m seeing this and oh my god, those clips have me weeping. The evil that it takes to treat someone that way…
@RachelOates
@RachelOates 6 ай бұрын
I don't blame you, they absolutely took my breath away on the first watch :(
@sunnyandthechlo
@sunnyandthechlo 6 ай бұрын
The “if you don’t shut up…” Boy that brought back some stuff.
@Roadent1241
@Roadent1241 6 ай бұрын
Absolutely immaturity. Ridiculous on his end.
@mikalcarruthers
@mikalcarruthers 6 ай бұрын
I appreciate you doing these types of videos calling out these problematic youtubers who shouldn't have a platform if there's evidence of disgusting behavior
@warlordofbritannia
@warlordofbritannia 6 ай бұрын
I don’t like the idea of censoring or deplatforming anyone, but when they’re using their position to do harm, that’s when it becomes a legitimate option.
@Meowdi333
@Meowdi333 6 ай бұрын
The fact that there’s apparently MORE things that Alice hasn’t included is so scary. Who knows what this man could have done to her if she didn’t leave him.
@TheLeafcuter
@TheLeafcuter 6 ай бұрын
Reactive abuse is such a dumb word for that honestly. Like what do you expect would happen? You don't corner a scared animal and then blame it when it bites you - getting in the face of someone will obviously make them defend themself??
@valolafson6035
@valolafson6035 6 ай бұрын
It feels like a victim blame-y term.
@Milo-it1tf
@Milo-it1tf 6 ай бұрын
I feel like it means both sides are abusive, I could be way off though
@TheLeafcuter
@TheLeafcuter 6 ай бұрын
@Milo-it1tf that's what the term mutual abuse is for though, or mutually toxic relationship.
@Milo-it1tf
@Milo-it1tf 6 ай бұрын
@Theleafcuter oh, sorry I guess I might’ve mixed the two up
@bzzzzzzzzzz2075
@bzzzzzzzzzz2075 6 ай бұрын
When I hear 'reactive abuse' I imagine the initial victim actually... doing abuse, not just repeatedly lashing out. Like, fully turning the dynamic around. Those things are very different, yet the term conflates them. Verbal abuse isn't the same as fighting words from someone chased into a corner, but I hear reactive abuse used as a term applied to just... anyone that lashes out at their abuser. Throw the whole term out, honestly
@thatchick1205
@thatchick1205 6 ай бұрын
DISGUSTING!!! OMG To threaten to bash her head in??? I’m so thankful she came out about this.
@unholylykoi
@unholylykoi 6 ай бұрын
omg i ALSO had an experience with an officer who kept saying "are you sure this isnt your fault? are you sure that you didnt want it? what did you do to provoke him" etc and dropped the charges. im so glad you had people who were kind and understood and went back to you to apologize for that.
@HolldollMcG
@HolldollMcG 6 ай бұрын
It's scary how openly he abused her. He did this shit in front of people, no shame, no hesitation. Imagine the horrors behind closed doors.
@EnigmaticStationary-gc3of
@EnigmaticStationary-gc3of 6 ай бұрын
The thing I'll never understand about the "clout chaser" argument is... what clout? There's nothing to be gained from making these accusations. The concept is absurd. Believe women. It's not hard.
@violet7773
@violet7773 6 ай бұрын
People said that in response to Surviving R Kelly, because many of those women wrote books about their experiences or were invited to speak at some event or another. But that's... literally the most "clout" I've ever seen a survivor accrue, and getting a book deal is hardly worth the horrors they experienced. I'm not going to say that those women never wanted to be in the spotlight - many were targeted because they wanted to be famous singers and R Kelly used that to get into their lives - but most of them now just want their stories to be heard. They just want to be believed. And that is, I think, what most victims and survivors want: just to be believed and supported. And it's horrible that we live in a society that won't even give them that
@PetraP01
@PetraP01 6 ай бұрын
You know, the clout of having everything about you question to oblivion. The clout of being hated by the huge following your abuser has. The clout of having to defend yourself over and over again. It's a dream come true, of course that's what people wish for... Am being majorly sarcastic, in case it's not clear.
@FabricFool
@FabricFool 6 ай бұрын
Clout chasing? Cloud chasing? Same same. Sheesh. Take a number, have a seat, we’ll get to you.
@-simplicity7551
@-simplicity7551 6 ай бұрын
Yeah, I’ve been talked to like this before. He tried to make me feel like everything was on me, but thankfully I cut him off. So much anger in people like this, it’s scary.
@RachelOates
@RachelOates 6 ай бұрын
I'm so sorry you've been through that too ❤
@-simplicity7551
@-simplicity7551 6 ай бұрын
@@RachelOates That's why we stand together, so no one feels alone
@Milo-it1tf
@Milo-it1tf 6 ай бұрын
I was abused by my ex boyfriend physically and sexually….
@-simplicity7551
@-simplicity7551 6 ай бұрын
@@Milo-it1tf I understand, I’m sorry 🩷
@Milo-it1tf
@Milo-it1tf 6 ай бұрын
@-simplicity7551 it’s ok…I got over it (metal music helped me though all of it) but it still left me with trauma
@LilAnnThrax
@LilAnnThrax 6 ай бұрын
It wouldn't matter if she was pretty or ugly, both would be used against her. If she was "ugly" they'd say she's not hot enough to be abused. I've seen it a million times.
@steffymuze
@steffymuze 6 ай бұрын
Seen it too. People are so evil.
@markspooner2027
@markspooner2027 6 ай бұрын
As a 43 year old narcissistic abuse survivor (I am male, my abuser is female) with BPD. I can 100% say the "reactive abuse" is a misnomer. Narcissists seek out people with emotional reactivity to gain plausible deniability. After my ex left (she abandoned our kids with me too), she had me convinced it was my fault. It took a LOT of therapy for me to see what had really happened. I wish you well in your recovery and I am glad to see you doing better.
@tutu3909
@tutu3909 6 ай бұрын
Do people not realize that BPD occurs from trauma and abuse?!
@alb91878
@alb91878 5 ай бұрын
They probably think it's a female disease caused by being dramatic and overly emotional that gets triggered by our periods.
@MougliX
@MougliX 6 ай бұрын
the moment he punched his microphone and said he would "bash her head into a wall" made me tear up because I once was at the receiving end of such an action by my ex... man, that sent some shivers down my spine... I feel bad for never going to the police, it kinda feels like I missed out on something that could have helped me heal properly, but as a result I'm even more proud of people who come forward to the public with their survivor stories :)
@seraphonica
@seraphonica 6 ай бұрын
there's a huge Venn Diagram overlap between people who think only men can be funny, women are only valued for their appearance, abusers should be forgiven due to being funny, and victims should be doubted due to being attractive.
@whims6278
@whims6278 6 ай бұрын
It's sad though because when women are "unattractive" they're also discredited because "who'd want to f her or R her she's so gross" women can't win no matter what we do and it's just so disheartening
@Faith01841
@Faith01841 6 ай бұрын
As a survivor, I cannot thank you enough for this. It's like you've taken all my scrambled thoughts and made them make sense, tearing down the victim-blamers as I wish I could do. I'm so proud of both you and Alice for speaking up about your experiences, it's never easy and takes so much strength. I admire you so much for this video ❤
@RachelOates
@RachelOates 6 ай бұрын
Thank you! Comments like this mean so much to me! Thank for being so brave too ❤
@hollyk7052
@hollyk7052 6 ай бұрын
It makes me want to be more vulnerable with my art, like why protect the privacy of the ab*ser ya know
@echoecho4590
@echoecho4590 6 ай бұрын
Thank you for your sharing your story and supporting Alice. After Johnny Depp and Amber Heard, people have been terrible to victims of abuse who are public. It is good to see the support.
@gilbej91
@gilbej91 6 ай бұрын
I've seen some of Alex's friends put out statements and particularly inabber kept reiterating to support Alice which I give props to. It seems they were left in the dark on what happened. I wonder if Alex ever threatened them the way he did to Alice.
@amandamandamands
@amandamandamands 6 ай бұрын
Glad to hear that, the only reason that I have even heard of him is because Alex has a podcast with iNabber and it showed up in my recommended one day.
@jusminejustice2794
@jusminejustice2794 6 ай бұрын
I'm surprised they were friends with him in the first place after what he did years ago. I can't say that I'm surprised that he is this horrible of a person. My heart goes out for the survivor of his abuse.
@juliemclachlan1861
@juliemclachlan1861 6 ай бұрын
I was just wondering about innabber
@SnakeMan448
@SnakeMan448 6 ай бұрын
The venomous way he hurls abuse in the livestream is haunting. And he has an audience he has influence over...
@luisehafenscher
@luisehafenscher 6 ай бұрын
As a survivor i went to the police, i did the rape kit, i tried to press charges, hell i even had voice recordings of my abuser admitting all these terrible things he did. Not only did this not go anywhere, many people in my life did not believe it happened at all. Believe all victims, you don't know how much they have gone through to find the courage to speak out
@iamtoxic4663
@iamtoxic4663 5 ай бұрын
This is so sad. I hope you are doing fine though
@kayhaven4710
@kayhaven4710 6 ай бұрын
I heard some rumblings but I had no idea he was this problematic!!! Thank you for the excellent video as always!
@RachelOates
@RachelOates 6 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@kasaru2911
@kasaru2911 6 ай бұрын
I used to watch Alex 5 years ago, but stopped after the Slazo situation- most of his youtube friends left him, so I took note. Now I'm really not surprised that he turned out to be an awful person. It sickens me and saddens me deeply to see what he has become.
@helenr4300
@helenr4300 6 ай бұрын
'she is too pretty' and posts photos of herself = 'see what she was wearing....'
@MakoClover
@MakoClover 6 ай бұрын
God so much of what he said and did to her is so reminiscent of my own ex whos a famous artist, and I just..know no one will ever believe how I was treated, so i'm so glad shes being heard
@kenmagoesblep
@kenmagoesblep 6 ай бұрын
i occasionally watched alex' videos on topics i knew but i never followed him, and hadn't heard of these accusations until now, and my heart hurts. listening to recordings of him threatening her was so upsetting, i got really choked up. people *still* supporting him is so absurd...
@YamiHoOu
@YamiHoOu 6 ай бұрын
Yeah same, I was looking at the thumbnail for ages trying to work where I knew him from.
@thegrimlooper
@thegrimlooper 6 ай бұрын
She probably slowly released her statement to test the waters. But then sometimes you have to release what you can so that the abuser won’t potentially take advantage of the situation
@TheMadAfrican1
@TheMadAfrican1 6 ай бұрын
"These are just Alice's experiences". My man, my dude. He threatened to bash her head in with a brick. That's pretty fecked, no matter how you look at it.
@charlieisacastle
@charlieisacastle 6 ай бұрын
this also reminds me of the wilbur soot situation. it was so heart warming to see so many people believe shelby but also there were and still are so many cruel people disregarding hee abuse and as a survivor myself, it was so hard to read or see those at all.
@theweyrd
@theweyrd 6 ай бұрын
The way you described it, the word I’d use for “reactive abuse” is self-defense.
@hannabio2770
@hannabio2770 6 ай бұрын
💯 THIS!
@EveLavellan
@EveLavellan 6 ай бұрын
People really don't understand that coming out with stories like this gets you INTENSE backlash, it's unreasonable to assume it's for "clout" when you're more than likely to get death threats at a minimum.
@jgibz
@jgibz 6 ай бұрын
I can’t help but to feel like this vile attitude towards DV on the internet really revealed itself during Depp v Heard. I remember watching all the commentary and seeing the comments on that situation at the time, and as a survivor, all I could think was, ‘this is why I didn’t go through with the trial [with my ex].’ Even the prosecution, the people who were supposed to be on my side, told me he would drag my name and character through the mud- was I sure I could handle that? They actively pushed me to let him take a plea deal. I wound up deciding against the trial and trying to move on with my life with my new partner. I just learned about a week ago that one of the injuries from my ex resulted in a TBI that went undiagnosed for almost seven years. I regret not going to trial. So much of recovery from DV is learning to deal with the regret and desire to do things differently if you could, if you could have only seen the signs sooner. And acceptance of what life will be going forward, now that this person has affected and hurt you so fundamentally and deeply. These attitudes towards abuse- things like the myth of “mutual abuse”- are pervasive, invading everything from the internet to the justice system. I will never judge or blame someone for not speaking up or pursuing charges, it’s no wonder they don’t when this is the treatment they get. It takes a miraculous act of courage to speak up about this at all.
@jennifersparks5634
@jennifersparks5634 6 ай бұрын
But the court proved that heard actually abused depp… she had not a lick of evidence except the same picture she used twice with a different filter.
@Keznen
@Keznen 6 ай бұрын
Mutual abuse isn't a myth, it's just *extremely* rare and the term is wrongfully applied to things like reactive "abuse" (quotes because it's really not even abuse, honestly). True mutual abuse is an extreme form of a toxic relationship. It could be argued that it's not truly abuse if you go by the definition that abuse requires a definite victim, but it certainly exists.
@jgibz
@jgibz 6 ай бұрын
@@Keznen the term “mutual abuse” is referred to as a myth because it is typically used as a manipulation and victim blaming tactic. True mutual abuse is not technically DV. Per a National DV shelter organization: “…a type of mutual abuse exists. It’s often called situational couple violence. But it isn’t part of domestic violence. It happens between people who have poor conflict resolution skills and don’t know how to communicate. So, when they are talking about things like whether to go on vacation or buy a car, they may engage in mutual, low-level violence...Unlike DV, it’s not driven by the need to exert power and control over another person.”
@babyvia6712
@babyvia6712 6 ай бұрын
Honestly the Depp V Heard scenario cemented in my mind the fact that victims aren’t clout-chasers, because what Amber received wasn’t “clout”, it was harassment and violence.
@alinachrist8416
@alinachrist8416 6 ай бұрын
​@@babyvia6712True. I was so baby brained while watching the whole thing. Despite being raised in a DV household, or maybe because of it, I sort of wanted to believe the idea of reactive abuse (which I falsely considered mutual abuse back then) mostly cuz I wanted to justify my parents still being together despite hating each other's guts. I wanted to think that my mom might be engaging back in some form of toxicity because she cant leave things behind. It took me about a week to realise the amount of slander and hatred Amber was getting cuz people had found someone whom they could prop up as the face of 'woman abusing man'. The lengths people went to falsify her statements and proofs, all the while maintaining plausible deniability. The bias was clear from the beginning. It's such a shame that we pick apart victims of trauma like this and punish them for coming out with their accounts. Depp got it all back despite being a wife beater and abuser and Amber came out tarnished as a toxic manipulator for some reason when his literal messages prove how much of a despicable person he is. These tactics are so familiar to me that I wonder why I was so blind back then.
@CelticGuardian7
@CelticGuardian7 6 ай бұрын
I love how supportive Kyra was being, coming up and wanting to nuzzle when she saw your distress. I know she's done that before, but it was really noticeable here. What a good girl.
@ghoulishtoad
@ghoulishtoad 6 ай бұрын
She is really the best good girl. I'm so glad Rachel and Kyra have each other, clearly dog and human soulmates ❤
@Jackfrostsbestie
@Jackfrostsbestie 6 ай бұрын
Personally, I’ve said for the longest time that a woman coming forward against her abuser has nothing to gain in a society that treats abusers better than victims.
@user-mt4sc6uy5b
@user-mt4sc6uy5b 6 ай бұрын
They were only together for a year. Imagine having a page worth of evidence every 4 and a bit days of your relationship (on average), and that’s not including the stuff she didn’t manage to capture. As a survivor my heart breaks for her.
@dove4881
@dove4881 6 ай бұрын
The fungi fridays shirt!!!
@RachelOates
@RachelOates 6 ай бұрын
I do love Jen and James :)
@AliciaC-qj9zr
@AliciaC-qj9zr 6 ай бұрын
Lol how I raced to the comments to see if anyone had pointed this out. Epic crossover!
@grimmick9446
@grimmick9446 6 ай бұрын
My father was loved by everyone he met. He was horribke behind closed doors. It was like when the sun went down you lived with a wild rabid animal. Yet every adult around me thought i was a lying brat of a child for trying to get away from him
@FabricFool
@FabricFool 6 ай бұрын
…and they all got their nads in a twist when we universally said we’d feel safer in the woods with a bear.
@avelynn5976
@avelynn5976 5 ай бұрын
and celebrated the death of a random woman who was mauled by a bear because other women on the internet said something that offended them. that woman probably knew nothing about that hypothetical hurting the feelings of oversensitive men online. a bear would not celebrate your death.
@LauraBow
@LauraBow 6 ай бұрын
I cant even name a single person who got popular or clout solely from being abused.
@LauraBow
@LauraBow 6 ай бұрын
And I've seen people go to the police before coming forward and still get doubted
@thecrispymaster
@thecrispymaster 6 ай бұрын
What I find interesting about the "innocent until proven guilty" defence people throw out to undermine victim allegations is that they're essentially only applying that mantra to the person accused of abuse and not the alleged victim who they are thereby accusing of defamation. What about innocent until proven guilty status? Basically they're denying that the victim went through anything at all, which we wouldn't do with almost any other crime. We don't immediately jump to disbelieving people in our lives who claim to have been burgled or gotten into a car crash accidentally just on the small chance they could be insurance scammers. But for some reason people are quick to do that with victims of abuse.
@Randomstuffs261
@Randomstuffs261 6 ай бұрын
I've been watching ImAllexx for years. He definitely *"snaps"* (best word I can use) to the point where you can tell he's not longer in control of his emotions and his emotions are in control of him. And his emotions aren't based on reality, but very fluid notions of irrelevant morales that he can bend to his will depending on how much he wants to destroy someone. Lots of red flags, but I never thought he would be this bad in real life. I always thought "he criticises other people, so surely he'd be able to catch himself and avoid doing any damage to someone in real life, even if he has emotional issues". The ironic thing is, after making videos criticising hundreds of people for almost a decade. Alex ended up being way worse than almost anyone he's criticised, and there's much more proof of it than with the people he's been criticising. My admiration goes out to his former girlfriend. She keeps a level head and seemingly mostly just uses his own behaviour against him during arguments without actually engaging in any cruelty towards him -basically just holding up a mirror to him, and it's incredibly effective. He cannot cope with her describing his true self as an ab*ser, so he immaturely just tries to ab*se her into stopping her honest interpretation of his behaviour, but it doesn't work so he ab*ses her even more. The cycle never ended. Many of us that have had narcissistic ab*sers recognise his behaviour instantly in those leaks. Wish I'd realised it earlier.
@minachernobog
@minachernobog 6 ай бұрын
He always seemed off to me. After the Slazo situation, I stayed away from his content. If he truly has emotional regulation problems, he is absolutely the type of person to hurl insults and threats to the closest person to him. His fans are something else. Degrading that poor woman while she provided so much evidence is insane to me. It's quite interesting how his fans screech about "false allegations" and "clout chasing" as if Alex wasn't the one to participate in falsely accusing Slazo to eliminate the competition.
@steggopotamus
@steggopotamus 5 ай бұрын
I used to think similar about my abisive sibling. She would defend her boundaries so firmly, I thought surely I'll get the same respect when I stand up for myself. Nope. Lopsided rules is a major red flag.
@bonfire9698
@bonfire9698 6 ай бұрын
I can’t imagine gaining the courage to come out online against your abuser, just to immediately be told the same things they told you by all of their supporters
@lordfreerealestate8302
@lordfreerealestate8302 6 ай бұрын
This is exactly what happens to victims pretty much every damn time.
@sillygo0oser
@sillygo0oser 6 ай бұрын
Really ironic considering he slandered slazzo for false allegations. Sounds like it was projection.
@tarakennedy2512
@tarakennedy2512 6 ай бұрын
I am also a survivor. Thankfully, not to the extent that you and Alice went through, but I have been made to feel like everything was my fault. I was called names, I was insulted, I was HEAVILY manipulated, and I was controlled. I’ve felt the powerlessness before. I’ve been made to feel like it would kill them if I tried to leave. I’ve begged for forgiveness before. It’s a terrible feeling. ALL survivors, men women and children, DESERVE for their stories to be heard. They deserve to scream it if they want to. You and Alice are inspiring me to never, EVER allow myself to be treated like that again. I hope Alice knows so many survivors have her back and are with her, and I hope justice will be served with this one.
@Ggoldwyn
@Ggoldwyn Ай бұрын
If someone calls you a dog and says he would bash your head in a wall- there are no 2 sides to that story. No context can make that acceptible. Disgusting
@itsmargi5076
@itsmargi5076 6 ай бұрын
I haven't heard or seen anything about him for years and honestly, this type of behavior is sickening. I hope she has support and protection in her corner because speaking out about against people like Alex on the Internet can be damaging mentally and scary. I remembered what happened with the woman who came out about Jake Paul and she got so much harassment for it.
@samolson1807
@samolson1807 6 ай бұрын
This is the perspective I was waiting to hear. Thanks for speaking out and providing a survivor's view of this. Also, the docs are utterly damning. There is no context he could give that'd clear his name.
@abbipalmer95
@abbipalmer95 6 ай бұрын
I'm so sorry to hear of your experience with the police. I had a slightly similar situation where after being harassed all summer they gave my abusive ex a warning to not contact me, and he still tried so I let the police know and the officer on the phone kept saying "oh it sounds like he just misses you, I don't think he means any harm" I started crying on the phone and hyperventilating and my mum just took the phone off me and went off on the officer. When even the people who are supposed to protect you refuse to see what you're telling them it's such a gut-wrenching feeling.
@visionblurry1232
@visionblurry1232 6 ай бұрын
Its so nice to finally hear a women speaking about this, I have nothing but respect and admiration for Alice. Absolutely hideous that people still try to justify Alex's actions when the evidence is so clear.
@vainpiers
@vainpiers 6 ай бұрын
I was told to record my abusers when people found out what was happening. I did but then got so afraid of what would happen if they found out i deleted everything. Mostly because the people who were meant to help me told me i was adding unnecessary stress to my abuser by speaking out.
@vainpiers
@vainpiers 6 ай бұрын
When i meet people now it's really hard to tell them why I am socially anxious, why I doubt myself and I don't tolerate my own mistakes. Because people see you differently when they know you've been abused, or they don't believe you or don't care. I was told I was ungrateful because I was honest about what was happening. I was told I was being difficult.
@tinyfig9708
@tinyfig9708 6 ай бұрын
@@vainpiers I'm so sorry this happened to you. The world can be so cruel. I experienced many sided with my abuser. I had been the crazy one putting stress on him, I was being selfish for trying to run away. And mostly, I was told I was faking it for attention. I always got the question, "Why didn't you react sooner to the red flags?" or "Why didn't you just leave?" which was so disheartening. I hope you know that there's absolutely nothing wrong with you and how you feel. As a fellow survivor, I'm SO proud of you for speaking out. Protect your heart💗
@meeomelovescookiesandhisto459
@meeomelovescookiesandhisto459 6 ай бұрын
From an occasional long-time viewer who's also been through emotional abuse, I'm always so impressed and proud (if that's appropriate) how you're handling videos about abuse. I'm really glad that you've been able to build this platform, and that you're using it so responsibly and effectively with great consistency over the years. This is what we need: more victims/survivors speaking out in from an informed and empathetic perspective to stand with other people who are going through it just now.
@GudetamaSit
@GudetamaSit 6 ай бұрын
It annoys me that generally respected KZbinrs, like James Mariott and Memeulous and Kurtis Connor still associate with him.
@RachelOates
@RachelOates 6 ай бұрын
I've seen that Memeulous has released a statement completely condemning Alex's behaviour which is great. Kurtis Connor I don't know at all but as for James Marriott, I have personal reasons for not liking him and he's stayed silent so far so I don't have high hopes.
@mippa5830
@mippa5830 6 ай бұрын
I've never even seen Kurtis Connor associating with him?
@fawnieee
@fawnieee 6 ай бұрын
​@@mrspreminger so he did collab with him after the false Slazo allegations then if it was two years ago. That's not good lol.
@hoathanatos6179
@hoathanatos6179 6 ай бұрын
​@fawnieee That happened in 2019. Kurtis likely didn't even know about Alex's involvement in that drama either as he isn't involved in the drama scene on KZbin. Knowing the kind of guy that Kurtis is, I seriously can't imagine he would support anyone involved in issues like these ones as someone who has shown strong condemnation of abusers and support for victims. The guy barely knew Alex and just had a few interactions with him on Twitter in 2022. It could be that he learned about the allegations after the few times they communicated and cut ties since we've seen no interactions between them since then.
@Iquren
@Iquren 6 ай бұрын
@@mippa5830 isnt kurtis still friends with that 'comedian' that loves to make rape jokes, and other distasteful jokes? him being friends with alex isnt too shocking
@charlottetooth1457
@charlottetooth1457 6 ай бұрын
I am a domestic violence survivor, and I did go ahead and press charges - my ex was charged with 15 serious charges, some violence (assault with a weapon, aggravated assault etc) some s. assault charges - (S assault, aggravated S assault, S assault with a weapon), also unlawful confinement and counselling suicide (he told me to kill myself repeatedly - I had screenshots of some of them!) - that last one is a really rare charge because many people don't survive to contact the police. It was a 10 day trial, and I was on the witness stand for five of those days. The most stressful time of my life, especially because he kept trying to contact me in the courthouse - he would be waiting at the entrance for me to arrive. I had to be escorted to the courtroom by the sheriffs! And at the end of it all he was acquitted on a technicality... That was a real gut punch! The judge actually said that she was convinced that he did the things I was claiming but that she had no choice to acquit, and then she looked right at me and apologised for having to do so! The Bstard got away with everything that he did to me over the 15 years that we were together! He is now saying that I lied about the whole thing and he was found "innocent" - he was not. The judge acquitted hi on a technicality that is a HUGE difference! Basically, the police F.ed up on some of their evidence. Even now, 10 years after the trial, I still live in fear - he has stalked me online to the point I had to change my name, he is constantly trying to find me. He has made false claims of S. assault to the police about me (he got the dates wrong - it could not have happened at those dates and I was able to prove it). I had to move away from where I was living. I have lost jobs and friends and people I care about because of this. He has made my life totally awful because I dared to report him to the police!
@kms4829
@kms4829 6 ай бұрын
Incompetent cops, infuriating. Hope you find safety 🫂
@moonniieee
@moonniieee 6 ай бұрын
I'm so so sorry
@candy-ninja
@candy-ninja 5 ай бұрын
The justice system is horrific
@KreeZafi
@KreeZafi 6 ай бұрын
God, it's really jarring seeing those clips of Alex behaving that way! I used to watch him some years ago, and although he could make some kinda rude jokes he mostly gave me the impression of someone who'd be kind of awkward and timid in person - I'd have much more easily expected him to be a victim of domestic abuse than a perpetrator! Really goes to show you don't truly know who a person is.
@beebwich
@beebwich 6 ай бұрын
“I can’t see him behaving this way!!” Then watch the videos. You’ll see it. Thank you for covering this. I hadn’t heard about him since Slazo, it sucks to hear he’s still out here causing pain and problems :(
@Andrew-qw1kq
@Andrew-qw1kq 6 ай бұрын
Enablers will refuse to see any proof, no amount of evidence will satisfy them. I'm also a survivor of domestic abuse, I remember being attacked in public bleeding from my face from an unprovoked attack. The people around just refused to see me, I could see their eyes slide off, that my existence made them uncomfortable. Yes I tried going to the police, they made things actively worse. If someone shows me that they lack the character to see and support victims? I can't make them see, but enablers are complicit with abusers and I'm grouping them together. I'm glad you're free and clear for the most part now wishing you health healing and happiness going forward.
@Garrison_the_Barbarian
@Garrison_the_Barbarian 6 ай бұрын
My heart hurts for both you and Alice. The abuse you two went through was shitty and never should have happened to begin with. It's bad enough to attack a partner, but to use their pets as leverage is a whole different level of scumbag behavior on the part of the abusers. I'd be in tears forever if someone did that to my cat Piper. Let the healing begin. It's a painful process, but healing is the only answer. Thank you for soldiering through this video, Rachel. You're fantastic.
@ouijacorn
@ouijacorn 6 ай бұрын
iirc, "Literally Who" is GamerGate jargon, which tells you everything you need to know about that commenter.
@thedragonborn7032
@thedragonborn7032 6 ай бұрын
I’m not on KZbin enough anymore to see what this platform has become. That poor girl. He speaks just like my father did to my mother. I will not support any of that group, and I’m disappointed I didn’t know all of this years ago when I bought merch. Very upsetting and I’m so glad you brought this to light. I never would’ve known…
@Dither87
@Dither87 6 ай бұрын
I recently was recommended him from the algorithm and began to watch his content. I knew nothing of his life before. After what I know now, I can't in good conscious continue to watch him.
@ainsleyluberto2977
@ainsleyluberto2977 6 ай бұрын
As a fellow survivor I unfollowed and blocked and soon as I found out and saw that he hadn’t made a statement ❤
@alderoth01
@alderoth01 6 ай бұрын
What he did was criminal... I hope he stays gone.
@lolx444
@lolx444 6 ай бұрын
I love how much you talk about this issue, thank you for being such a pillar of strength for all victims of DV and always standing up for what you believe in
@RedDeadReverie
@RedDeadReverie 6 ай бұрын
Thank you for speaking about this, I had no idea! Hope his girlfriend gets out safe ❤
@ZythMusic
@ZythMusic 6 ай бұрын
Ugh, i love you and your takes Rachel, you could talk about anything and id be here for it. you never miss
@DemiBirdDoes
@DemiBirdDoes 6 ай бұрын
I get so easily confused on that part of the Internet thanks for this. I never wanna end up supporting abusers and it gets so hard to sort actual shit from the weird fake allegations like Slazo and Kwite.
@zuglymonster
@zuglymonster 6 ай бұрын
Its so so so angering why people like about abuse like that. It not only hurts someone's reputation for years even if its proven false. It'll still be "wasnt that the guy who got accused of abuse years ago,I mean I'm 98% sure he proven innocent" unless they're huge stars who get TV specials about it.
@shane4602
@shane4602 6 ай бұрын
Good for Alice! ❤And my heart sank when you described your first phone call with the police. I'm so glad the more skilled officers heard the recording and followed up.
@isaacbenrubi9613
@isaacbenrubi9613 6 ай бұрын
Im glad that you do this kind of video, Rachel. Evil thrives in silence and calling it out helps purge it from the world.
@Keznen
@Keznen 6 ай бұрын
Not surprising at all after what he did to Slazo. One who does something like that to someone they call a friend is one who has no qualms doing horrible things to someone they claim to love.
@obish4476
@obish4476 6 ай бұрын
thank you for covering this. having people believe alice and so openly condemn alex’s behavior is quite healing tbh - even with the bullshit others say. like you said, the way he spoke to her felt like things i heard with my history as a survivor. power to survivors
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