We Need to Talk About the Oltura Problem - Wasted Potential - Monster Hunter Stories 2!

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[@diegocantu9853]

Oltura: *I have two forms!* Riders: *Ye-* Oltura: *However you can only fight me once*

[@marcusgo1160]

I mean so does the Pietru's

[@Rievet7134]

@@marcusgo1160 Fair point, fair point

[@kiand1391]

Riders after the Oltura tells them they can only fight it once: Sadness noise… 😔

[@thedailybrowser5951]

*•Oltura turns around•* YOU MAY SMACK IT, ONCE.

[@AlejandroRodriguez-cy8ee]

@@marcusgo1160 difference is that Versa and Makili are the same dragons, just with different attributes. not much has changed (that and the context for it made sense, Versa was supposed to be a monstie ally but it turned into a monster) Oltura however has 2 VERY DIFFERENT forms. each with their own unique traits

[@danielz6177]

I’m sad that Oltura never got an armor set. Just look at it, there’s so many ways you can go with it.

[@marcusgo1160]

I mean, even versa pietru got shafted

[@Aesc_the_voyager]

I’m sad about the same thing in the first game

[@marcusgo1160]

Unrelated, but stories 2 is actually getting 2 expansions in 2022, one is an iceborne theme and the other is rise themed.

[@bossnass9319]

@@marcusgo1160 WHAT! NO WAY

[@R3LOADlikesgames]

@@bossnass9319 I wouldn't believe it until it has actually been said.

[@projectgreengamer]

Given Oltura has such a moth like appearance, the tentacles could be a fantization of the "caterpillars" stage of its life. It grew into its adult form after absorbing the Kinship power from Red's rathalos.

[@alexdelbagno8533]

That's what I had thought it was. That the worm was a larval form used to eat rathalos then metamorphosis into the elder

[@riemaennchen]

I really wish we could craft Weapons and Armor out of Oltura. Preferably from both forms like with Narkakos who has the bone armor and then his real armor after you fought him at the end of High Rank.

[@drxavier1870]

Just like Versa/Makili Pietru Such a incredible original design, locked behind a Spin Off

[@theryag863]

That's kinda crazy to me. They have own the monster, the have the rights, the design, the attacks, the music on deck and they just choose to use it once and not ever again. That's kinda sad

[@GraeTheGrim]

@@theryag863 to play devils advocate: it keeps the majesty of the encounters. If you have a similar monster, say fatalis, then you keep seeing them and seeing them. After a few times it isnt anything special anymore, its just the normal

[@theryag863]

@@GraeTheGrim true, but they don't have to put it monster in every game, just put it in a regular monster hunter game once cause sitting here after a single fight is a shame

[@GraeTheGrim]

@@theryag863 true, but dont the final hidden bosses take years before they make a second appearance?

[@Rose-85]

@@GraeTheGrim does Fatalis count? if im not mistaken he shows up in 4U then skips Gen and shows up in GenU and then again in Iceborne almost the same with Alatreon, i think he skips 4U

[@25Dzone]

Also - random note, but Stories should've been the first place to explore underwater Monsters. It's turn based, the whole problem with underwater Monsters is the combat mixed with the swimming, a turn based system is the PERFECT place to have a huge underwater map.

[@TheGuindo]

i didn't even think about this but damn, you're right. If they did this, we could finally see Ceadeus again u_u

[@Zurui1150]

Yeah just think about the possibilities! Like Guindo said, Ceadeus or some monsters like Abyssal Lagiacrus

[@hueyfreeman2307]

The human?

[@gamerkingdom1442]

It’s basically the same with the final boss of the first MH STORIES. Such a incredible Boss, NO ARMOR OR MONSTIE!! And I completely agree about the Tentacle thing! It could have been something like NAKARKOS, we’re the tentacles weren’t the actual heads!! Like come on! That would have been so cool!!

[@marcusgo1160]

The tentacles are so weak that a ranged attack could crit.

[@mysterygamers3603]

I mean all the bosses in stories relate to a mainline series boss like the pietru to magala and oltura to jiiva

[@MeekCrayon]

Yes, considering Altura is in many of our top 15 favorite Elders... Its so depressing 😭

[@victory8928]

Well you could technically use the first final boss as a monstie although it is the not corrupted form and it is very confusing to get. But yeah why didn’t they allow us to use fatalis and alt as monsties? Heck why did they forget the non fated four and diablos deviants and why no frog monstie?

[@marcusgo1160]

@@victory8928 Versa cannot even be a playable monstie because it is themed to cheval.

[@aggychan0093]

Its disappointing that Oltura cannot be fought again, like he has an awesome design and his ecology is crazy. I had a lot of fun fighting him and hoping that there will be an armor/weapon set, but no, there's no special drops/rewards of anything. On the other hand, it's kind of understandable that Oltura is the main final villain and is no ordinary monster that can be found and fought frequently, so it does make sense that he can only be defeated once. However, an armor/weapon set would be absolutely rewarding, possibly the strongest in the game. Oh well, it is what it is.

[@Burrizo]

I always associated the worms as the larvae of Oltura before fully maturing. Similar to a moth, it's a hive mind of larvae that attract the needed food and energy it needs to properly reach maturity. That's how I saw it atleast

[@chimerakait]

Another Zeno'jiiva....yaaaaay...

[@marcusgo1160]

@@chimerakait I mean in the first game, pietru is just a gore magala.

[@nsmorgan05]

Thats what it is for sure.

[@duskbringer4583]

One thing that made me a bit surprised in Oltura: "...If that's a larval state, I am afraid to think how big the actual thing is!" *It's only a bit bigger than Kushala.* Me: "...Well that was anticlimac-" *Gets nuked.*

[@johncronk8867]

Moths are usually smaller than the caterpillars they come from.

[@duskbringer4583]

@@johncronk8867 Yeaaaah... Though seeing how gigantic the larva(?) was, size difference here is quite something. ...And it had... 3 Heads?

[@spinomania1921]

@@duskbringer4583 It didn't. During the cutscene where the 3 tentacles eat Guardian Ratha you can see they're 3 seperate entities

[@dracogatom7873]

Me: Hey Capcom, can we get like a quest to fight Oltura and able to gather materials for armor and weapons? Capcom: *HARD MODE FATALIS IT IS!!!!!*

[@mysterygamers3603]

I mean fatalis previously cannot be farmed. And unrelated note, stories 2 is gonna get 2 expansions in 2022

[@jacobmarshall2489]

@@mysterygamers3603 Do you have any proof? I haven’t heard a thing about any expansion content for Stories 2, let alone two expansions. I’m just genuinely curious if you do.

[@firdauszainal4448]

I just hope it's free dlc.

[@VitchAndVorty]

"When in doubt, just drop Fatalis in your game." -CAPCOM CEO or something

[@Qguardian]

Altura could have had a xeno/safi story in stories where the newborn looked liked that, then it grows and controls new tentacles. The old tentacles could have been explained as altura produce the red light when they die and the tentacles become vessels to gather new energy for a new altura to be born, ensure the species survives without the need for a mate. It’s a stretch but still would be pretty neat biology.

[@marcusgo1160]

Oltura is more like a caterpillar to butterfly interaction

[@Dod.O39]

Xeno was more like a moth than oltura, who's reminiscent of a butterfly

[@Netherwolf6100]

Also, glad I made an extra save file right before my final fight with it so I can keep fighting it over and over again whenever I want. Playing FF7 and KH2 taught me to save a separate save file for fun and hard boss battles.

[@RPGeenius]

I did the same. A life time of RPGs thought me that lesson. Sucks for people who didn't though.

[@edwarddanza5468]

The only reason we don't get an armor set for Oltura is that our final attack completely evaporated the body so we can't get it's materials.

[@sanguinetales]

Kyles "Deus Ex Machina" from Ena stealing our MC's glory

[@97dusk]

@@sanguinetales Kyle didn't steal anything, though? The player and Ratha still got the final blow, Kyle was just the one to make Oltura vulnerable sense he was the only one present who could (given that our character is never portrayed with a weapon in cutscenes). It was all about teamwork. Kudos to Kyle for allowing me to beat Oltura on the first try, though. That last second Rapid Shot crit really saved the run.

[@sanguinetales]

@@97dusk Yeah but i think it was stupid having kyle do it cause it was given to us and ena. Making a magical artifact only one person can use is usually bad storytelling, what if Kyle died in the fight what would have happened.

[@VitchAndVorty]

@@97dusk Shout out to Kyle once again for helping against that nasty Gravios from Z7. lmao

[@karenbonds264]

"I'm not upset, I'm just disappointed." *Zooms in on Ratha*

[@mysterygamers3603]

Oltura is cool af tho

[@marcusgo1160]

Ratha might just get another form in one of the 2 expansions.

[@marcusgo1160]

Oltura is better than xeno, fight me.

[@Ryalkos]

Agreed

[@frostmint3584]

@@marcusgo1160 Theres No Fight needed, oltura is a lämp brother

[@ML1399TheyStoleMyName]

I saw fanart of the tentacle/worms being attached to Oltura's incubating cocoon, and that makes too much sense

[@mattiaberti9160]

The fact there's an icon for the worm form in the files implies it was supposed to be fought at some point.

[@Ryodraco]

I recall it's possible to even hack the tentacle form into the overworld, though it doesn't function properly. It really seems like there was a lot the developers wanted to do with this game that they just couldn't for one reason or another.

[@marcusgo1160]

@@Ryodraco probably production issues

[@frostmint3584]

@@marcusgo1160 yeah, I mean past Lamure the Story kinda goes Downhill and even half loloska is wonky af

[@VitchAndVorty]

@@frostmint3584 Terga only has 2 Catavan stations. Still feels so annoying, tbh. It's like, they are half-assing that region.

[@frostmint3584]

@@VitchAndVorty omg yes, Like wth atleast give me a Caravan stand that is closer to the Crystal caves or the inside of the volcano. Terga somehow felt empty? If you get what I'm saying

[@ThePontiac001]

The tentacle things are meant to be a larval stage of the dragon we fight. Think of oltura as a butterfly or a moth dragon

[@ES-dp6tw]

Almighty elder dragons shrouded in ancient myth have become the fire/fighting-types of Monster Hunter. Not necessarily bad, often memorable, and yet swiftly dampening the allure and sparking a craving for something different.

[@chimerakait]

This is also the second time a dragon did a metamorphosis into/from "basically a moth or catterpillar" What would be cool are more insect elders. EVERYTHING IS DRAGON.

[@TsulaAngenati2292]

Agreed, I kinda hope the next game will feature some unique concepts for its new big bad, like maybe one that’s in a duo, trio, or even a quartet, possibly even one of the dragons from the tale of the five since we already have three

[@marcusgo1160]

@@chimerakait There are no insect elders because the group is elder dragon. Just say more neopterons.

[@marcusgo1160]

@@TsulaAngenati2292 So a elder dragon fated four?

[@AN6_Phen]

@@marcusgo1160 And Kirin is an Elder Dragon yet looks like a Unicorn. Nakarkos is an Elder Dragon yet looks like a cephalopod. Yama Tsukami looks like an Elder Dragon yet looks like a weird balloon-pseudo-octopus hybrid with *human teeth.* An Insect Elder Dragon honestly wouldnt be that impossible.

[@Wslasher]

Don't worry CottonDinosaur, you'll see a lot of tentacle action once the doujins come out.

[@duvidoskiarrom]

Another big problem, which I don’t think anyone has talked about yet, is Razewing Ratha. Wasted potential for a new variant, a dark monster with black wings and purple fire turns put to be a normal rathalos with fancy wing drawings who just glows a bit in his slightly different kinship attack. They could have given him Mega Pokémon-like properties or it could have transformed after a kinship attack but instead it just randomly spreads his wings and it becomes a normal boring rathalos.

[@OrAngelicBlitz8633]

It's amazing to me how the MH series gets us so attached to monsters, essentially the antagonists of the series (stories has some exceptions). I agree that bosses should be able to be revisited as event quests, including gear and all sorts.

[@kiand1391]

Someone has probably said this already but, Oltura's worm form might be kinda like a dragon-ish larval form if we’re comparing Oltura to a moth then there would be a larva of some sort, The only problem being Oltura is an elder dragon so the solution might be I suppose in this instance to make some sorta scaled caterpillar and being an elder dragon and also a pretty powerful one if the legends are true (Which I mean all 5 elements lots of AOEs and nuking you so yeah, At least Safi'jiiva-ish level from the nukes alone, And with the Elders Lair being like the Guiding Lands in a way but on a smaller scale.) it needs large amounts of bio energy to achieve metamorphosis which of course explains a lot of what happens in MHS2 with Rage Rays just being some kinda tools for collecting bio energy kinda like the Frenzy Virus, Of course there’s probably some kinda hole in this theory I’m not thinking about but food for thought ya know. 🙂

[@thegreatlagi9974]

I've always liked to imagined Oltura's species is split into two parts. The tentacle monsters are the Polyp of the species. It gathers energy from the Earth and other monsters to produce Medusa versions of the species, with the Elder dragon Oltura being one. With the ED Oltura being able to move freely and do whatever it wishes, while the tentacles are more landlocked. Perhaps the adult (ED) version of Oltura is what flies off to other lands to lay eggs that could form more tentacle monsters. Its like some sort of crazy jacked jellyfish or something. Cus if Safi can evolve similarly to a cricket, then having a dragon based off a different animal isn't too farfetched. Idk I just like Oltura's wacky design

[@s.c.2180]

Or just caterpillar -> moth.

[@tohumbus6889]

And the sad part is if they were to put in a stories 2 exclusive in rise it wouldn’t be oltura, it’d be razewing ratha

[@aurnknight2813]

Well its a moth thus is grew from a worm. The worm part was the baby form as most caterpillars are much larger then the butterfly, so a massive worm would technically become a big moth dragon

[@yoshimario40]

Aw man, I was expecting at least some mention about the wasted *_story_* potential around Oltura. You know, the monster so powerful that it simply existing threatens all of existence, so therefore it has to die, but the only thing it ever wanted was to live, which is exactly the same situation as Razewing Ratha in that people concluded that it had to die or the whole world was fucked. And you chose to protect it anyway? You know how Kyle said "Snap out of it. You would rather save one monster over the whole world?" And here you're thrust into the same situation. Except the protagonists chosen the opposite? I dunno. Feels kinda jarring. Would've been nice to have found a way for Oltura to live. At least we got a cool fight out of it I guess.

[@Backwoodsgamer3]

Bro this stuff gets me through the day keep it up 👍❤️

[@GunlessSnake]

I think it's fine. It's the narrative climax, not necessarily something to just repeat in an action game with a gameplay grind loop.

[@The-Full-180]

Those tentacles would made an awesome battle in mainline MH especially in rise you could have different levels (depending on in progression) of monster come and fight it with you, like in the all mother fight, then build up to Altura over the story

[@Zephyr-lp2mi]

In regards to the tentacle thing, in concept art it seems that the tentacles are the unformed wings of oltura, they kindoff just sprout out of its back and act as extended mouths to feed while the main body sits deep below in safety

[@DrezenDragon]

My head canon for Oltura is that the Multi-Tentacle Monster is actual Oltrua's "Mother" with the species having a Reverse Butterfly life cycle: Born as the Butterfly only to metamorphosis into the Caterpillar

[@TheGuindo]

this would make way more sense to me than the way the story seemed to be spinning it, that the tentacle form is a larval form of the Oltura we finally see at the end.

[@lencross2172]

Cotton, I think your very confused about this worm since. It. Literally. **IS** Oultura because just like Xeno, this form is probably it's baby form and the moth form is it's fully awakened adult form, just like when Xeno shedded into Safi, just thought I should tell you

[@redlord8438]

In addition to the Oltura disappointment, I was also upset by the fact that Razewing Ratha has no unique features to make him different from any other rathalos, despite the cool things we see him do in the story

[@marcusgo6784]

Why? Oltura is awesome you uncultered bullfango

[@samson3873]

The Rathalos in Stories 1 at least got an scarred eye at one point to difference it from other Rathalos, why couldn't this one at least kept some Feathers from its previous "wings"

[@ryanremington746]

Technically the only visual difference I've found is his wing pattern, but beyond that, seems standard

[@marcusgo6784]

Is oltura a cool elder?

[@marcusgo6784]

Oltura is like the pietru’s they both final boss monsters that don’t have equipment.

[@timderberserker7170]

my biggest disapointment is, that you have nothing from beating olturra, no Armor, no Weapons, No Egg, god i played the story only in hope of getting an egg of that beautiful monster, but no, nothing.

[@marcusgo1160]

So like Pietru from the first game?

[@dad5draco]

Zone would be proud of that intro.

[@Dromarch-eg7lo]

They could do a sort of flashback or retelling of the event and you actually get to fight it with either the same mechanics as the first encounter or with different mechanics and you get materials out of it. I'd say its similar to Final Fantasy 14 where all the higher difficulty fights and raids are literally just imaginative retellings, its not canon but you still get to fight them and get drops. I personally would've loved to see Oltura's armor and weapons

[@gruggedup9083]

Cool tip: create a specific save file just to fight the cool fights...like I did.

[@StartouchArts]

Oltura is easily in my top 5 favorite monsters, and it's a shame we'll likely never see the best Black Dragon again. Well, not technically considered a Black Dragon as it has no title, but LOOK AT IT it could easily go toe-to-toe with Fatalis and Alatreon. I do wonder what its title WOULD be, though. I'm torn between The Evolving Black Dragon and The Raging Black Dragon.

[@frostmint3584]

What about the Raged Ray Black Dragon? Maybe the Six-Winged Devourer? Idk but yeah Versa/Makili are my favourite Monsters since Stories 1 has alot of Connection with me and even then I was fuming to Not be able to Ride it, since the only elder dragon we westerns got was the one who looked the least Like a god damn Dragon! Atleast give me my kushala :(

[@Netherwolf6100]

Alright let me ask this question, the first time Eda's pendants (Later revealed to be arrowheads) were glowing, did anyone else think for a moment that were were going to turn Oltura into a monstie for us to befriend instead of kill? Like all it wanted was to be born and we were supposed to bond with it to tame its power?

[@pennyhero7873]

I mostly went why and how cause why dose she have them how are they magic and why and how do they link to this creature it feels kinda shoehorned in to make her seem like an important character

[@Tengila]

Not from the amulet perhaps, but from the themes the game had been using all the way up until that point, yeah. For most of the game we were operating under the assumption that Ratha was a doomsday device held back only by love, trust and affection, so what's to say Oltura can't be the same, right? I'm disappointed that our MC didn't even _try_ to use the kinship stone as Oltura emerged. Have it fail, fine, but at least try, dammit!

[@johncronk8867]

I can imagine that; Ena does something similar to what she did with Zellard, stopping us from fighting, and calms Oltura down. Eventually, she becomes its rider, and they fly off to a distant, unpopulated island, where any effects Oltura causes on the surrounding world are mitigated. In the credits, you see her visiting others, people visiting her and Oltura on the island, and them making peace with the destruction caused by it. Maybe even a shot of Razewing Ratha and Oltura playing together.

[@s.c.2180]

@Tengila has there been a case of a rider taming an already born monster? Because if i am not wrong, the answer is no. Also, the arrow head isn't a kinship stone.

[@galaxyknight2869]

HUGE FUN FACT: All monsters in the game were going to be rideable, but time constraints ruined the gig for some monsters. Daimyo Hermitaur and Agnaktor ARE RIDEABLE but not obtainable, messing with the code lets you actually use them and they even have saddle placement and animations. Oltura was going to be rideable and in its larval form too! (YES THAT IS CANONICALLY ITS LARVAL FORM) MASSIVE POSSIBLE SPOILERS/CUT CONTENT REVEAL All sourced from the cutting room floor from the game files: ALATREON, LAO SHAN LUNG, ASHEN LAO SHAN LUNG, DIRE MIRALIS, YAMA TSUKAMI, THE MISSING DEVIANTS INCLUDING CEANATAUR AND MALFESTIO'S, RUINER NERGI, VAAL HAZAAK AND BLACKVEIL, CHAMELEOS, LUCENT NARGA, AKANTOR AND UKANLOS, GORE AND SHAGARU, THE OTHER ICEBORNE SUBSPECIES, GOBUL AND NIBELSNARF, AND THE MISSING SUBSPECIES FOR THE REST OF THE MONSTERS IN THE GAME LIKE TIGERSTRIPE ZAMTRIOS AND DESERT SELTAS WERE GOING TO BE IN THE GAME, AND A LOT OF THESE MONSTERS WERE GOING TO BE RIDEABLE!!! AMATSU'S MODEL IS IN THE GAME FILES AND FULLY TEXTURED TOO, THOUGH WITH GU TEXTURES.

[@marcusgo6784]

Those are not cut monsters. Those look like a future expansion monster list

[@galaxyknight2869]

@@marcusgo6784 Well they are cut monsters...what are you on about? They could be returning in an expansion (I won't mention leaks here just yet), but they are just in the game files.

[@marcusgo1160]

@@galaxyknight2869 I think it was probably intentional because the monsterpedia has like a giant 60 gap of monsters and the datamine also has weapons upgrade to level 10.

[@galaxyknight2869]

@@marcusgo1160 I'm VERY 90% of cut content isn't returning, leaks just wouldn't line up with that.

[@marcusgo1160]

@@galaxyknight2869 Yeah but still, 90% like tigerstripe or nightshade might come in the iceborne expansion while stuff like Lao shan lung is completely unlikely because of what the monster is.

[@not_fatalis]

The same problems apply to Makili pietru, it's fought once, never seen or heard about again afterwards, and almost no information on it

[@kitchengun1175]

I will say that the point of the oltura 'caterpillars' is to be overwhelmingly huge & too big to take on the metamorphosis into the smaller 'butterfly' is the only way a kid on a baby rathalos could beat that thing in any sense

[@arnauzer]

As cool as Oltura actually look, if it stayed in tentacles form, I'm pretty sure we would have no way to beat it.

[@Nihonguy]

My theory is seeing that her final form is a moth dragon maybe her based form was that of a worm like creature that fed on other monsters to evolve. That light probably attracted monsters to it like that herd of rathalos so she could feed and change.

[@thatonezekrom8725]

One of the things I hoped for in the story is that the final (or at least penultimate) area of the game would be the inside of oltura’s pits: a sprawling tunnel system with a giant “core” area where the main body of the worms resided

[@daniguban359]

I thought it was a sub species of dalamadur when I first saw it I was excited but it evolve to a beautiful moth still happy though

[@monocasualzari]

Makili and Versa Pietru where also like this, as someone who has played the first storis game I don't have many problems with it.

[@bobthegaminggod2564]

I always thought it was like a caterpillar. It has a main cocoon thing with muscles and stuff that is connected to the brain of oltura.

[@denzeldelaney6578]

Tbh I was hoping the hard Co op quest would be Oltura (this was before I knew it was Fatalis)

[@jackwilliams801]

Before seeing the final form of Oltura, I thought the worm tentacles were going to appendages that would be summoned during the fight and you would have to defeat to weaken Oltura.

[@PabloSanchez-mo8ui]

I wanna see a turf war with those tentakels and dalamadur

[@alexmatei7608]

I would say, i hope that as a final DLC for sunbreak, instead of another iteration of fatalis maybe introduce something like oltura or any weird and ultra powerful elder

[@duskbringer4583]

Plot Twist: There are 3 Oltura and each head was separate larva.

[@fawfulfan452]

Gosh that would be a hilarious plot twist

[@royalultimax3187]

I agree Oltura itself is a cool monster, but it didn’t have a lot going for it. I kinda wish you got to maybe fight the tentacle worm things to get a small taste of Oltura and then you fight the true Elder Dragon form of it. Also yeah it not having an armor set or weapons is kinda meh although it makes sense that it’s the final boss, although yeah if there were a harder version you could farm it.

[@theprowlerking]

Like you said about Oltura being a moth, this could be like a humongous, threeheaded caterpillar. Then it evolves into Oltura's first phase of the fight, being the pupae. Once it has reached towards it's Dragon State, it will then being the a fully grown adult Oltura.

[@theprowlerking]

My real question to this monster is why Rathalos?

[@melindalayla1369]

okay so... i need to know where you found that picture of her icon that you used in your thumbnail.

[@luisemoralesfalcon4716]

That is the sad truth with a lot of monsters in this series, and the Mass Effect Legendary Edition (Bioware apparently knows of a lot of issues but they don't care or have plans to fix them, they are throwing them at the modding community who are working on some of them for free oh, they had to sign a NDA and that is what apparently got a lot of modders who worked on the Legacy Editions just quit).

[@luisemoralesfalcon4716]

Bioware makes great games, but other than their MMO they don't bother give them good post launch technical support: "No, I'm not in charge of the tools we use, so I only saw correspondence as a third wheel, and the BioWare reps stopped appearing in our chats when the project was closed at around July this year. But some of the tool developers still talk to them privately. So I did get to see the shock on their "face" when they realized 3-hit melees were accidentally missing in Legendary Edition Mass Effect 3. A feature that will never be added back at least on consoles. It was clear that the reason he couldn't push to get it fixed is because their QA department only had room to address "critical" bugs, i.e. actual game crashes and other serious problems. Unfortunately an ugly save glitch is still stuck in the PlayStation ports where random plot flags and values are truncated in rare instances of saving. That will never be fixed. The initial correspondence was allegedly by accident, because someone said they worked with modders but we had not heard a word. We contacted them because of that, and they owned up to it by actually collaborating directly after that point. We now have details like all their entire "StoryManager" plot table, which means we know what every single plot flag in the trilogy means, which means we have much more clarity about plot-branching issues and how to fix them, and the ability to create story-driven mods that depend on official choices you make in the core game. But the bottom line is: The reason we are even able to release mods today for Legendary Edition is because the toolset developers worked directly with BioWare to know how the game works under the hood. If BioWare hadn't done that, there wouldn't even be a sprawling mod community for Legendary Edition in 2021."

[@sacred944]

I always imagined the tentacles were part of some either giant (and I mean dalamadur/zorah size) cocoon or just a mobile cocoon that become the butterfly like thing Oltura is. And it has defense tentacles cause why not

[@gamer4life505]

i think they could have done a multi stage boss fight like versa pietru in stories 1 where you fight it repel it to the ruins where it then absorbed energy from the corrupted kinship ore and transformed into its true form then you fight it defeat it and finish the game

[@lagiacrusmarmoreo7733]

I think it could be better if we fight first the tentacle form and then escapes, and then we know about that form and then we know about another final form and then in the end of the game we fight that form and then we can go to the holes and fight another time to oltura but more easily and then go and have a oltura egg with the oltura final form and we can use it and have the habilities to change the element and more

[@tropicsumo3558]

I feel like if they had a midway fight with the tentacle, then in high rank continue the story to follow with our moth friend in high rank it wouldve helped. They could maybe give you some high rank materials from the worm to tease the crazy equipment like with Fatalis but idk, ramblings of a crazy man I suppose.

[@tetrafilo9157]

I have so many questions about oltura like:how much is big the larva,how can attract the rathalos of the all world if is just one,why only rathalos but not the rathians,how it can control the people mind? I hope that in an probably anime can give some answers

[@Joe-yx1gq]

Yes even in Gijan Hunter was wish that They could fight Oltura For Armor and Weapons and even Yunna Made Fan Art for a Armor Set Idea.

[@thebatman8957]

I need to start this game over again. I originally bought it on PC before I had a Nintendo Switch. I ended up getting a Switch to play MH Rise and getting the game again on Switch but never ended up really starting it I mostly played rise and then other games. I need to beat this game again before Sunbreak.

[@viktorgabriel2554]

Giant worm state is Larva form then it turns to Moth pretty self explanatory if you ask me

[@RPGeenius]

I kept my save before the last boss so I can fight him whenever. But it sucks that we get nothing from it. It's such a beautiful monster and would be awesome in a main mh game!

[@lisandromendoza4270]

I really wish capcom could make oltura in another monster hunter game, yea the fight would be even more epic

[@thelegendarybrit9183]

If the tentacles are the juvenile form of the final boss Then it kinda gives tremors vibes With a huge worm maturing into a smaller creature

[@fivenineone6085]

Yeah the tentacle... mouth arms? What connects them... Or maybe, maybe it is simply the unknown third evolution of Dugtrio. Or I wonder maybe the worms are a seperate entity of sorts to the moth..? I MEAN I fully understand that moth/butterfly are the symbolism for transformation but like. There is some rhyme or reason..! Anyhow, good points you made!

[@NightmareGorilla]

it's been a hot minute since i fought him but don't they explain that the tentacles are basically a cocoon for oltura? i could swear the whole purpose of him gobbling up monsters was to increase his energy pool for when he emerged from the cocoon? that's why him eating old rahlos was the kicker that triggered his transformation. Other than that i agree with the video completely. the first thing i thought when i finished the fight with oltura was "boy do i want to hunt this guy" while knowing we probably never will. oltura armor, even a layered armor, would have been sweet. weapons also would be nice but with no way to fight for more parts to upgrade i'm fine with no weapons. ya overall missed opportunity definitely for all the reasons you said. only one fight, and because the form change is so drastic it doesn't feel like you are fighting the antagonist you've been chasing the whole game it feels so disconnected. oltura is cool definitely, the rage ray is a neat story mechanic but i wish we had more interaction with it. I honestly would have loved a type of "morality choices" system where you could gain power for ratha but he turned that dark black color and disobeyed you more often or something.

[@AveryCreates]

So here are my thoughts: - It's a much exaggerated version of metamorphosis. It's first form exists to feed and feed alone. The rage ray it gives off doesn't just cause monsters to go berserk, it lures them in as prey. As cool as it would have been to be able to fight It's original form, it didn't really bother me so much. Because hey it's still preparing It's cocoon, it's primary focus is to feed. - Due to the world-ending power Oltura is given in the story, it makes sense to not be able to fight it again to farm for materials. HOWEVER, I think a co-op trial would be SWEET. Maybe gold prize being 3 SR tickets. I am hopeful they will add rank 10. It would make sense for Oltura. - Coming back to the 'you can only fight it once so you get nothing', I would have appreciated a "pick 1". There are a few weapons that you can choose from, pick your favorite. IF Oltura comes to multiplayer (I am hopeful as they are still adding content) we would see about crafting materials then. Anyhow I loved Oltura, and the game as a whole. Thanks for sharing your thoughts!

[@themachbuster]

I would say that this is the gigi paradox- tentacultura is a larval form

[@cv7368]

Anyone else noticing the trend of elder dragons having a larvae / cocoon stage where they feed on life force before becoming a real dragon?

[@cheshire8881]

Maybe the 'tentacle ' oltura is more like a worm or pupa oltura and then it just metamorphosis into its beautiful moth..butterfly dragon form??

[@ironwolf5802]

I dropped a save right before the fight because I was expecting giant super worm fight but still got an enjoyable fight that's wasn't against the teases worm all game.

[@Sandragon124]

If you really think about it, wouldn't the tentacle version of Oltura just be another version of Dalamadur in a way if you actually fought it?

[@skylordlucasissecretlyquil6592]

I think the tenticuls to olture is like a caturpiler to butterfly or moth

[@riallebalfour4767]

The worm could be the “Larva”, while the elder dragon is the metamorphosed “Moth”. Larva have to constantly eat, right? Before going into the Coccon stage? Makes sense then why the Worm thing just kept eating. Likewise…For all we know there could have been more “Larva” laying dormant.

[@ScrimpleDimple]

I might be a year late but honestly after recently finishing the game, from a lore wise perspective, it makes sense on why there’s no Monstie or optional second fight because it literally brings ruin to the world so not exactly the perfect pet.

[@thediloraptor284]

Just imagine oltura as a monstie that would be so ridiculous

[@sanguinetales]

they could have done Oltura Major(boss) and Olura Minor(monstie) Like the constellation Ursa

[@krokoboss7498]

For me personally it feels like oltura needs some kind of reboot in one of the action games. I mean not really in sunbreak, i think that train is off (I still hope it though) but maybe in the sixth gen of mh

[@RugaQwarrcall]

I will legitimately ALWAYS be confused as to why the big question mark update at the end of the roadmap was a Fatalis rematch instead of an Oltura rematch and Oltura gear.

[@kardasdragon7933]

Honestly was hoping that the final free dlc was going to have a quest to fight him again and again for his gear.

[@cls357]

Oltura would be perfect for Rise; and could quite possibly be an end game monster for the next gen rendition of Monster Hunter when it is finally released.

[@avpnumber6678]

Having no armor or weapons is unforgivable and not being repeatable is also a wtf? Even tho the fight is rough and basically comes down to a damage check that is painfullll. /Being as it’s a moth dragon thing my head cannon is that the worm thing is the “larval stage” and the final fight is the adult phase (even tho the game doesn’t make any explanation for this like you said) honestly it’s a really pretty monster and then whoosh it’s gone (points for looking like Mothra with the wings tho we can all appreciate that)

[@RagnorokGundam]

Honestly I like both forms of Oltura but was much more excited to fight basically a hydra cus we don't have anything like that currently like big dragon is cool but we have a few dozen kinds of that and besides the tentacle form presents the most gruesome and ominous moments in the game compared to the dragon form that just flys away peacefully and we chase it and kill it just doesn't feel right

[@lucaknapper5218]

Are we sure that the Tentacles and oltura are the same Monster and not just a transporter for energy? I mean it would make sense that they vansish after delivering all the Energy to Oltura

[@RyukenAtrineas]

The main possibility I see for Oltura is Monster Hunter Frontier, which is known for absolutely bonkers strong/powerful/flashy monsters.

[@spikers6669]

the tentacles make me think of MH4U with the giant snake (Shah Dalamadur)

[@Aesc_the_voyager]

I’m sad that we never got an armor set or an egg of the final boss in MHS 1

[@LordShonji]

Honestly did think that the tentacle was just the larval form of Oltura but then there were three of them...

[@cv7368]

Hopefully we can fight it in a main game where we can get more info on it

[@sanguinetales]

what if Oltura's Worm form is like a caterpillar and the dragon form is its butterfly form

[@primo8375]

Now i don't think it would happen but Oltura sorta fits the design aspect of Sunbreak only a little bit so in theory they could throw it as even the secret elder dragon at the end of the story i mean you always fight the flagship and then some secret elder dragon nobody knew about till the end since forever. Rise and Stories 2 WHERE advertise as having some sort of a crossover but all we got was leyered armors and dogos being in stories as far as i know it felt underwhelming for how much it got advertised. So what if Oltura was planned to be the secret elder dragon in Rise but got pushed to the next expansion due to it not quite fitting the ascetic of the game. Again i don't think so but i felt it be fun to discuss it idk.

[@gogmazios3447]

When i saw a tentacles i thought its gonna be giant nakarkos like monster

[@stormerjc9493]

I'm still trying to figure out how one turned into the other my only solution is that it's some kind of cacoon

[@AkumuOukoku]

Oltura is really not hard to conceptualize as a monster to be fought in the main line games. It's just a quadruped with wings that uses elemental attacks. Yes, it has BIG wings but so do a lot of online / Frontier monsters and no one ever had an issue with that. I feel like it's abilities would just be handled like Merphistophelin. Another elder dragon that can play the Elemental shifting game. Mechanically all Oltura is Merphistophelin. They could give it some special moves and junk. We already have "Moves you get caught into and will do your whole HP bar if your dumb enough to get caught in them" moves throughout the games. The Tendrils are worms. In some fan art it's actually depicted pretty well as to 'how' the worms might work in accordance to a pupa state. But it really should have been better stated by the design team. The Fact that it turns into something that looks like a dragon/moth checks out though. While we could have had a fight with it's baby form, it would have only been for some small flavor text of a moment. Would it have been cool? Maybe. Would it have contributed anything to the story? Prolly not. It is disappointing there is no armor for it, as it most likely would have been pretty cool. IT also comes off as a monster that REALLY does not want to fight. It just wants to live It even has Eye spots on it's wings until it gets SERIOUS and the eyespots vanish. Also is it just me or has monster hunter really been over-using the "You've only been fighting the baby" trope for too long? It started with One, where you fought Basarios and they used Gravios as a near-end game boss. But then they used Gore ( who's unclassified ) That turns into Shegeru ( an Elder ) and then they used Xeno ( Baby ) who turns into Safi ( Elder ) . . . and now it's Worm bois ( babies ) that turn into Oltura ( An Elder ) . Like. . I get it but. . dam if it aint getting old.

[@brettz5288]

Should have had a Kraken style body like from Clash of the Titans. Has giant tentacles with appendages buy also a body, arms and a head.

[@zwangsstoer]

MHS2 is pretty pokemon like, and one thing that really ticked me off in pokemon is, that all legendaries can be caught like every other little pokemon too. At the beginning this wasnt such a big deal, because it was mostly like crazy elemental birds. But since gen 3 and 4 you, a teenager, get to catch gods in tiny plastic balls. In Monster Hunter, stories and the main games i ask myself frequently how frickin big this world must be, that you can farm elder dragons this frequently. You kill them and five seconds later there is a new one ready to be slaughtered. From a gameplay standpoint a must. But the immersion suffers, when those big calamities that change weather and climate, summon zombie monster invasions, or wreck whole cities become a daylie routine. Oltura, and the boss from MHS1 are the climax of the story. They are the one big threat that stands between you and a pieceful world and after you beat them its over for good. Having a quest in the game, that lets you repeat the fight the impression of those monsters gets watered down. That said: I too was disappointed, when i saw, that there is no oltura armor set, or weapons. And I thought es first, that at the end of elders lair you can fight it again. But no... instead you get that black dragon everybody loves for some reason.