We Need to Talk About the SEC...

[@slushOV]

we aren’t talking about the last two decades. we’re talking about since NIL and the transfer portal became what it is. it evens the playing field. it isn’t a coincidence that the SEC isn’t running through everybody anymore.

[@1trackswanson]

But the SEC relevance has been the past 25 years and you can say 30 years if you want to include the Tee Martin Vols natty team. It's the elimination of the bag man and the nil allowing for everyone to get paid and not just the best recruits who got $10,000 from each school recruiting them! TBH, they've been getting paid. Majority of the athletes and their parents were financially desperate or just greedy. That was the way ole miss and miss state rolled forever, targeting financially ignorant and desperate recruits. No results then and still no results present day for either team. 😂

[@roris5882]

​@@1trackswanson The SEC heavily benefitted from NAFTA, when the US Gov't sold out the Rust Belt, the manufacturing center of the country, to China because many blue collar families relocated to the south looking for stable work.

[@PHXNKVHXLIC]

So yall gotta use the SEC to win

[@Aporiaofficial]

That’s super convenient, almost like the only way your argument holds water.

[@CornstarchCrusader]

exactly the issue is these northern schools ruining what the sport is by paying them millions upon millions of dollars

[@darkhydro2375]

Mark the sec is cooked

[@dylanhackworth2652]

He's Matt

[@darkhydro2375]

@dylanhackworth2652 mark

[@IllMatic97]

​@dylanhackworth2652 no, he's MarcusbeMeh

[@LowKeyJay33]

He's Marty

[@Crussell04]

MarkBeJayZ

[@williamgarry2635]

In an attempt to have a serious conversation about the points you made in your video. It’s hard to argue that the SEC has had a great deal of success in the playoffs over the past 15 years. But I think that the audience that is pushing back against the “SEC is the greatest football conference” are trying to make a few points: 1) with the collapse of the PAC-12 redistributing teams among the Big XII & Big Ten, there are more teams adding depth to those conferences 2) there has been a self fulfilling hype machine stating that the SEC is the best, therefore those teams wind up with higher rankings making it more likely that those teams wind up in a 4 team championship format. With the change to a 12 team format, we are seeing more inter-conference games that gives us a better chance to make comparisons than before. 3) NIL & the transfer portal are leading to a more even distribution of talent among teams, making it more difficult for a few SEC teams to hord talent on their roster. 4) some of these SEC teams that are being given credit to contributing to the “strength” of the SEC are living off of past performance and their brand names. Are teams like Florida, Texas A&M, LSU, Arkansas, Tennessee, & South Carolina really that good or are they teams that people remember them as being good in the past while playing in a conference that pundits talk about being good? 5) lastly, I think that there is a great deal of exhaustion among the non-SEC college football audience listening to pundits and prognosticators along with SEC fans talk endlessly on cable sports news and sports radio about how good the SEC is without any real scrutiny being applied to those statements. ESPN is especially bad at this and is likely biased when making these statements because they have a vested financial interest in elevating the SEC football product since they carry those games. If ESPN said that the Big Ten or BIG XII had a comparable or better product, then they would be telling their audience that they should be watching games on other networks instead of ESPN. When you put all of those things together, along with the fact that this KZbin channel promotes the snarkiest of hot takes instead of measured & serious discourse, you shouldn’t be surprised that you are being flooded with hot takes about the SEC sucks…

[@Hoodnotslow]

No the sec is ass because they called there schedule a gauntlet and the big 10 a cakewalk then proceeded to lose to ever original big 10 school possible 🤣 and get blown out by the teams that joined there conference from the big 12

[@commonsense3921]

I Think the B1G is just simply better now.

[@williamgarry2635]

@@Hoodnotslow, I don’t disagree with you (I think that the SEC is and has been highly overrated) but I was attempting to seriously engage with Michelle-be-mediocre’s arguments with his 40-something year old a$$

[@williamgarry2635]

@@commonsense3921, me too. The conference was already good. But Oregon & Washington (along with USC & UCLA) are adding to an already strong conference

[@MarvelandStarWarsProductions]

​@@commonsense3921I think the SEC is the best. That doesn't imply that every SEC team is head and shoulders above a similarly slotted team in another conference. The SEC, for a long time, produced one of the top teams every year. This, however, is the age of parity.

[@RadicallyOptimistic]

The SEC having 6 of the top 7 ranked teams to start the year is a travesty. It shows that the lazy media has no idea how to evaluate rosters in the portal and NIL era. Things are different now. “15 natties in 20 years” should have no impact on how teams are ranked.

[@JamesJohnson-i4s]

lmao you have no logic

[@WalkerBelew]

@@JamesJohnson-i4ssec homer spotted

[@PHXNKVHXLIC]

Look at the HS recruiting rankings, SEC is crushing the Big Ten

[@JamesJohnson-i4s]

@@WalkerBelew I will destroy you on any topic related to the SEC vs all other conferences. So where do you want to start?

[@DDahlin]

@@PHXNKVHXLIC then how are sec schools losing to big ten?

[@ShortNinjaa]

8:30 “SEC fatigue” might be the stupidest term I’ve ever heard. Yknow why people are sick of the SEC? They talk down on anyone who isn’t in the SEC. They make outlandish claims such as saying Vanderbilt could win any other power conference. Maybe if any fanbase in the south could win with grace and humility, they wouldn’t catch strays from everyone else when they get humbled.

[@JoshHeupel27]

Lol no one has ever said that about Vandy. Vandy is buns, and in all of my years as a coach I have beaten them like a drum.

[@Graeme-u7m]

@JoshHeupel27 Real

[@MarvelandStarWarsProductions]

I think the SEC is the best. That doesn't imply that every SEC team is head and shoulders above a similarly slotted team in another conference. The SEC, for a long time, produced one of the top teams every year. This, however, is the age of parity.

[@TristenCoon-bw3sn]

​@JoshHeupel27 No actually plenty of people I have seen on the internet have said that Vanderbilt, Arkansas, Mississippi State could win in any other conference.

[@Spike-sk7ql]

​@JoshHeupel27 MAYBE he didn't say Vandy, but Matt has even said that a mid-low tier SEC team could run the B1G conference.

[@waynelei6459]

When all other schools can start paying the athletes, suddenly SEC schools look so overrated. What a coincidence. Let's just focus on this new NIL era, because it's fair and square. No more paying under the table, no more hoarding players after momentum is built by first batch of bought players.

[@beckylee82183]

👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

[@michaelschaefer1904]

You honestly think the Big Ten isn't paying people back in the day. They weren't known for their ethics.

[@mrvroom188]

As a BYU fan, it’s hard to not be a little salty about how the committee didn’t even CONSIDER us over 3 loss SEC teams that went on to get embarrassed in bowl season, but it is what it is🤷‍♂️

[@PatriotMapper]

Exactly. BYU, who was 10-2 at the time and literally beat SMU, wasn't even in the conversation over Alabama, Ole Miss, South Carolina, and SMU. And now everyone is talking about how the B12 was disrespected and should've gotten another team in because ASU took Texas to the wire and BYU absolutely dismantled Colorado. At least some more respect will be on the B12's name next year and BYU could get in if they have another good season.

[@christiannorman6432]

True y’all got hosed. The fighting Mormons were no joke!

[@BozBoy101]

@@mrvroom188 yup and ya smoked the heisman winner.

[@PHXNKVHXLIC]

Who did BYU play

[@BleedHuskerRed2011]

This BYU narrative needs to stop, too many people running with it. B12 had three 10 win teams. Two made the conference title game, only one was getting in. SMU had 11 wins and Clemson only got in because they won the ACC. It makes complete sense. BYU was considered, but didn’t have the credentials. It’s easy to say “X should have gotten in” after they play a bowl game.

[@BSchwartz07]

It’s not SEC fatigue, so much as fatigue of hearing how tough the conference is when a team loses to Kentucky. Alabama and Georgia are elite programs, but the rest of the conference has been WILDY overrated for years.

[@laryzelobstar3369]

LSU? The program that has the second most titles since 2000?

[@BSchwartz07]

@ some amazing individuals, and one stellar season. But they’ve had 1 top 10 finish in the last decade….

[@Nihilitty]

MattBeRKelly finally seeing the truth

[@Crussell04]

🤨

[@vzecq588]

Didn’t get convicted of sex crimes? R Kelly was set up and legal system did him dirty

[@ShaneMichealCupp]

He’s not. He’s coping hard.

[@poorear]

Looks like bro is getting a strike

[@vzecq588]

@@Nihilitty dude he deleted my comment 💀

[@Tyrannis07]

They're the only conference that was anointed the best based on whether their best team had won in a 3 year window. Without Georgia, the SEC was 17-17 in bowls since COVID heading into this season, but we were still told 3 different SEC schools with 3 losses apiece had an argument to be in the playoff. Nobody said the B1G was the best in 2014 when Ohio State ran through the CFP and the SEC continued a 0-5 streak in the BCS New Years' Bowls. Nobody was claiming the ACC was the best when they went 22-14 in bowls and Clemson won 2 titles from 2016 - 2018, but the SEC was declared dominant for going 17-19 in bowls over that span and winning 1 title by beating themselves in the CFP. Makes sense. I didn't hear the media crown the B1G last year when Michigan won and the B1G had the best bowl record. But for 15 years, any time Alabama won, it somehow validated Tennessee and Mississippi St. It's become ridiculous.

[@user-vx2fw7qe1n]

It’s because of the consistency of the other teams, lsu won it, Alabama won it, Georgia won it, for big 10 osu and Michigan won it, acc, Clemson and FSU, also auburn won the natty too, point is, more sec teams win the natty recently, which earned the sec its reputation

[@kevinh.6587]

Preach! As a clemson fan I see what ya mean all them teams riding on bamas success but take them away and and the sec don't have much.

[@Tyrannis07]

@@user-vx2fw7qe1n My point was there is no consistency, except that no matter what, the SEC is declared the best. Tell me another conference that would have a losing bowl record for 3 straight years and have their champ lose by 4 touchdowns in the Natty to Clemson yet still be called the dominant conference in football. 7 out of the last 10 years, the SEC conference has had a losing bowl record, but because Georgia and Alabama have won, the Ole Miss and Tennessee's get to claim they're great programs. It makes no sense.

[@greenwave819]

False. The SEC wins the bowl cup and has had the highest OoC winning % every year except 1 over the past 25 years

[@Tyrannis07]

@@greenwave819 You can't be serious. That's so easy to disprove. In the BCS era since 1998, there have been 26 Bowl Challenge Cups. The SEC has won 3. Even if you take away the Mid-Major Cup winners, there have been only 5 seasons where another Power 5 conference didn't have a better record than the SEC. That's 5 out of 26. Not even close to every year.

[@bobert3392]

Georgia just lost to ND by more points than Indiana did 😂😂😂

[@Salty_Dog1]

Let it be known than Indiana on the road came closer to Notre Dame than Georgia did at a neutral site.

[@alexpergjoni4880]

I’m a ND fan and I watched the game live, Indiana scored two tds against 3rd strings in the last 1:30, Georgia was way more competitive .

[@bobert3392]

@ there was no third string in the game, Indiana literally attempted an onside kick and got it.

[@greggthompson8972]

The SEC is over. We’re in a new era. The “old school SEC boys” don’t know how to compete in the new NIL world.

[@michaelschaefer1904]

Get real. It was their QB's first start.

[@712mix]

Matt the only reason we fly to social media to say the SEC is overrated is because we have to deal with people like you that make up narratives that if other teams played in the SEC they would lose every game plus you always play the hypothetical game and now we are seeing what happens when the big ten and sec play eachother

[@user-vx2fw7qe1n]

Tbf man, recent years show the sec winning the nattys, and this year, I will say, sorry bout the narratives, just know recent history helps the argument we put out, not this year though

[@TristenCoon-bw3sn]

​​@@user-vx2fw7qe1n Well no argument you put out will back up some SEC fans saying Vandy and Arkansas would win in other conferences. If Arkansas played Ohio State, Oregon, Penn State, Michigan when they are actually at full strength and don't have to worry about a QB who doesn't know how to throw a forward pass would all beat up on Arkansas and Vandy. Heck Penn State had a home and home series with Auburn a couple of years ago and dog walked them both times, Ohio State dog walked Tennessee on December 21st, Michigan beat Alabama on New Years Eve, heck even Illinois beat South Carolina. So plenty of BIG 10 schools could beat bottom to mid tier SEC teams.

[@TherronBurns]

I mean let’s it act like there wasn’t evidence of sec teams beating up on other conferences year after year . This year is one of the only year it hasn’t played out and there’s still a chance the sec wins

[@gregschulte2953]

since paying players is legal, the SEC is at a disadvantage (exception-Texas). Big ten schools, OSU, Penn State and especially Michigan have resources that don't exist in the SEC. Add Oregon, Washington and USC - look out. Michigan has so much money coming in, it's unfair. For the first time they are actively soliciting their alumni which includes nearly 30 billionaires. Until they get a handle on NIL, the rich will get richer.

[@datwolverine]

Crazy that the “20 years” you’re talking about lines up perfectly with the SEC/ESPN deal that made them billions. It’s a well known fact the SEC has gotten away with illegally playing players for decades. That allowed them to horde talent. So yes, they’ve been overrated for the last 20-25 years. They don’t coach better, it doesn’t “mean more” (as proven with fans including yourself saying “well I don’t actually care about bowl games”). The fact is this year marks the first year EVERYONE can pay players and very quickly the SEC suddenly doesn’t look so good. Get ready for the next 20-25 years buddy. Cause the B1G has got a lot deeper pockets. Also don’t compare the SEC to the bottom half of the B1G, fact is yall play less conference games in a weaker conference

[@mannyman3789]

Maths the type of guy to say the SEC is the best conference because they have the most national championships then say if the big10 wins the championship the SEC is still better. Like what is going on in maths brain🤨

[@oilyseal1287]

Mortius, the SEC is FINISHED

[@BuffsforLife]

NIL has just leveled the playing field and it's as simple as that.

[@destinyreturns4885]

100%. Now everyone can get paid not just the SEC players

[@PHUnkel66]

@@destinyreturns4885 😱

[@Graeme-u7m]

Transfer portal too.

[@Bamruff62]

Yeah, The top powers from other conferences got NIL and Transfer portal pushed through. That helps teams from other conferences poach top talent from SEC teams. They can't do it through recruiting.

[@Lamont47]

SEC IS LIL BRO NOW

[@Jmanworld22]

“It just means more losses to the big ten”

[@artoftruthpodcast8678]

The “Sucks Every Conference can’t pay players too” dominance is OVER!

[@krondeanic]

MattBePushing40andBald. Great content as always... you are the only SEC homer I can tolerate.

[@delusionalninerfan049]

Matt, the past 20 years mean NOTHING. That college football is long gone now, now we have an even playing field and you just need to accept that the SEC isn’t as good as it used to be.

[@Byrd21590]

Do you honestly believe that school are going to let this continue to happen? Contracts for player will happen then if those contract are broken, guess what the kids are going to be paying the school for breach of contract to transfer.

[@1trackswanson]

It was easier to have a bag man go get the top recruits. Now the NIL and transfer portal fizzled the SEC.

[@1trackswanson]

​​@@Byrd21590they can cry all day. Remember the NIL case started a long time ago! Can't reverse course. It'll be the traditional big schools who cry when they no longer pummel and out match teams and their alumni and fan base start screaming for heads to roll and new transfer rules took effect a couple of weeks ago 😂 no loss of eligibility from juco guys! Naw this is a job and they don't have to work where they don't want to work!

[@PHXNKVHXLIC]

Look at high school recruiting rankings and tell me the SEC isn’t still the best

[@DDahlin]

@@PHXNKVHXLIC The top 30 players from the last 10 years has normally been around 20 to the sec then 10 elsewhere and now its about 50/50.

[@thej4800]

1. You said an Alabama team which lost to 7-5 Michigan's backups would somehow be a clear favorite over SMU. 2. It doesn't matter if a game COULD have gone differently, bad teams find a way to lose, good teams find a way to win.

[@pwho405]

Everybody was so worried about OU being SEC ready 😂😂😂😂😂

[@kristodd3496]

They went 2-6

[@pwho405]

@ thanks for the update but not the point.

[@MarvelandStarWarsProductions]

​@@pwho405i actually agree with the other guy

[@austinfife4554]

Fun fact Alabama started off the 2024 year losing to Michigan and ended the year losing to Michigan

[@Spike-sk7ql]

It's worse than that. They lost to Michigan on 1/1/24, and then lost to Michigan's 2nd string on 12/31/24. Seriously, Michigan was down 11 of 22 starters, and barely had a pulse on offense all year.

[@connerhochstein]

Matthias the SEC cannot defeat Illinois this year 🙏

[@michaelschaefer1904]

Bowl games are a shadow of the regular season. See FSU vs GA last year.

[@connerhochstein]

@ I agree but that one may have been subtle foreshadowing 😂

[@JoseEspinoza-fj9ij]

“It just means more”😂😂😂

[@dreadthedreads4567]

Yea those L’s mean more too 🤣

[@jmoney5350]

“It just means less”😭

[@Purplepillmma]

All them SEC homers are silent love to see it

[@PHXNKVHXLIC]

Not really, we are running laps around the Big Ten in HS recruiting, we will still have the most NfL draft picks like the past 15 years and we have 6 schools who have won a natty in the past 25 years while the Big Ten only has 2. And the Big Ten is so dumb they have 18 teams and still call it the Big Ten

[@brendyn__2244]

@@PHXNKVHXLICbig 10 landed back to back number 1 recruits and boutta be back to back nattys nice try bud it’s over 2007-nil😂

[@MattbeDiddy02]

Matt sec dominance is over, the B1G is simply better this yr and with Sabans retirement and NIL the SEC won’t be as dominant again, also was it really sec dominance or was it Alabama dominance bc they had the greatest hc ever and js happened to be in the SEC??

[@anthonypalicka4776]

Funny how the footing is a lot more even when NIL is legal.

[@jimford6478]

The issue is SEC just disrespecting ALL the other conferences. Kiffin is the perfect SEC ambassador. The SEC is still the best at self-promotion.

[@samuelpancake4084]

If OSU plays at their top nobody's stopping them

[@scottdewitt-on7ui]

If. If they do your right

[@victorrod00]

Except for Mason Graham and Kenneth Grant

[@PHUnkel66]

If OSU plays at 70% no one is stopping them.

[@brownsloyalist5417]

@@PHUnkel66Michigan or Missouri could dog walk them right now buster

[@BonesJonesIdk]

@@brownsloyalist5417 missouri sucks, they'd lose 52-7

[@ATSWTheEscapePod]

Now that the sec isn’t the only conference that pays players .. they are no longer nor will they be dominate ever again ….

[@souljavanno]

If you truly believe the SEC was the only conference that was paying players before NIL you are either insane, ignorant, or uneducated.

[@ATSWTheEscapePod]

@ not the only one but they most egregious no doubt Texas arguably the worst offender. Not that Alabama was much behind them. And Georgia was really getting their hands dirty about eight years ago to the point I’m surprised they let them keep a team But now kids can go to schools up north get a quality education and get paid that’s a no-brainer for most kids

[@weaktallguy5114]

Doesn't take a genius to figure out when you have the nil in the mix, the talent pool is much larger and more accessible to these teams that have gotten destroyed by the sec for two decades. It is what it is, but people who are clowning on the SEC are too blinded by hate and frustration towards the sec to admit that.

[@RhettMueller]

Hey Matt I just want to say happy 50th birthday

[@adamc1906]

Don't get it twisted, we know Marty is only 14 with the way he dresses himself.

[@Johnnyhamcheck1]

I think everyone is fatigued of espns obvious bias towards the sec anytime you try to watch a sports show

[@oPretz]

Mike is finally telling the truth

[@DanielCorcoran-n4n]

The Big Ten is obviously better than the SEC at the top.

[@Montuckz]

NIL will decimate the stronghold the sec has had on recruiting for 20 years. thats why saban bounced. he knew it was over

[@michaelfortenberry5735]

Two SEC teams that were beating their chests about how they should have been a playoff team...lost to midling Big Ten teams. Bama was first team out and lost to our B squad. Overrated is an understatement.

[@Golfing422]

Michigan has a system in place and once they get that offense going again next season they’ll be dangerous. 2 great smash mouth backs in the same line up next year. It’s like the old Michigan of the 80’s and early 90’s that would always beat up on the sec in bowls.

[@pattondog11]

Sense 1998 there is eight schools who are now in the SEC that has won at least one national championship game on the field. Plus a few that haven’t won one since 1998 that are capable of winning one. The vast majority of 4 and 5 star HS players are from SEC country and typically go to one of those schools. The majority of players drafted in NFL for so many years.

[@vinnievinnie-sj5kr]

That isn’t necessarily right it’s just the way sec fans act as if they’re in a different league of difficulty when it comes to competition which they’re not 8:35

[@TipOfTheSauce]

I think it's less about people wanting the sec to collapse and more people want to see other conferences get some recognition. For all the big sports networks if you aren't the sec you basically don't exist to them.

[@LowKeyJay33]

The SEC has been overrated these last 2 seasons Martin sports evolve and we are entering the Big Ten era

[@TheSarcMark]

It doesn't help that Texas is barely an SEC team.

[@bam530530]

If Texas wins it just means the SEC is severely overrated. To have a conference new comer from the lowly Big 12 win it all, would be comedy.

[@alexcuevas5633]

Big 12 isn’t a horrible conference though. While they may beat themselves up in football, basketball is a great product for them.

[@chasejordan22]

You left out big ten vs sec bowl game records and showed the record from the bottom 9 big ten teams.... Thats prime cherry picking. The sec is so good you cant even show the records .... .. I've never watched someone squirm over a losing argument so hard hahha

[@Woods1528]

You talking about just this season or in the last 27 years?

[@proudboytroy8703]

Yes if texas wins that natty, the Sec is still overrated.

[@nathanvandyke9951]

9:14 Fun fact about that, there have been 35 P5 1-loss teams left out of the playoffs/BCS since 2005. The SEC is by far the minority of that demographic. In short, a 1-loss SEC team has gotten the nod over a 1-loss non-SEC pretty much since the BCS was a thing. The Big 12, B1G, and ACC have not had multiple teams in the BCS/playoffs more than about 2 or 3 times since 2005. The SEC has had multiple in a majority of those same seasons. My point with this is that when you automatically favor a conference over the rest, it creates a self-fulfilling prophecy. If I'm a 5-star recruit who wants to play for a championship, where would I go? A Big 12 or B1G school that consistently finishes with only 1 or 2 losses but gets left out of the playoffs or an SEC school that can lose a game and still play for a championship. SEC favoritism has helped create a talent funnel into the SEC that then helps to solidify the narrative to the point where it became a statistically backed fact. However, now that the playoffs and transfer portal have opened up, the "SEC funnel" is virtually non-existent. Teams that haven't been on the cusp of a championship run recently (middle of the pack or bottom dwellers) or don't have that "legacy factor" will simply fall behind the rest. There won't be a singular conference that dominates, it'll be the top dogs from each conference dominating the rest. Add in the ludicrous sports budgets of the big name schools and you have a recipe for widening the gap between the "elite" schools and the good ones. If you can't hit 10+ wins consistently and make regular appearances in your conference title game, you simply will never be able to compete for a title.

[@AndrewReed-vt2so]

Holy yap

[@hosehead3179]

SEC is overrated this year. But it runs in cycles. The overrated part is that people think SEC is automatically the best every year

[@Golfing422]

Yep, that describes what happened to a T. It started out with the sec getting benefits and breaks the other teams didn’t get and that drew the better players to the sec. The injection of money into things, and a 12 team playoff is why it’s different this year. The sec can’t avoid everybody except one or two hand picked teams the committee thinks they can beat, so they have a much larger chance of losing. Every team can now buy players, not just the sec who I believe has for years and the NCAA knew about it and ignored it. Just imagine, if it wasn’t a 12 team playoff this year, we’d have never seen the thumping we will see this year when Ohio State thumps two sec teams in the playoffs. The Pete Carol USC teams would have thumped them if we had a 12 team playoff back then.

[@Golfing422]

That sums up the resentment very well. The funnel created by the years of special treatment is why 3/4 of the country roots for the sec to lose. They got that good with help from espn hype machine and the selection committee , not because they were that good.

[@bobert3392]

Bro 😂 Stop acting like were not talking about “this season” lol btw B10 beat SC, Tenn, Alabama, Texas A&M all teams you say make the SEC such a deep conference lol …not to mention ND beat Georgia by more points than they beat Indiana 😂 Face it the SEC was basically the Big 12 this year. MattBePayinDumb Ohh a let’s not forget Oklahoma losing to Navy 😂 …SEC so deep though

[@wizkid7687]

Matt be wrong. Please show some long overdue respect to the Big 10. 5 loss Michigan beat Bama twice this year.

[@bosstee561]

Lil bro Alabama lost to Michigan twice in one year.

[@ReferMadness]

It really is this simple......once everyone was allowed to pay the players, the SEC lost its competitive advantage in recruiting!

[@mikecoxlong5242]

SEC was the best conference for years without paying for there whole roster. Things will never be the same

[@adamc1906]

Are you delusional? They were the best for years because they were the ONLY ones paying for their rosters. Now with NIL it is even playing grounds.

[@WalkerBelew]

Yea before nil the sec were the only ones that payed players

[@mikecoxlong5242]

Oh damn i forgot there’s always people that played in the SEC in the comments and know everything 🤦‍♂️

[@WalkerBelew]

@@mikecoxlong5242 dude your a casual if u didn’t know that

[@mikecoxlong5242]

@@WalkerBelew and even if so not one other team was doing the same?! Who’s delusional again?

[@kennethwalker2496]

The transfer portal and nil leveled the playing field.... Hear me out... The big schools will still get the big players but the depth/upcoming players are leaving after a year because they can start and get money on a different team.

[@greenwave819]

SEC still the best. Just cannibalized each other a bit this year. Injuries and a bit of bad luck has caused the SEC to look down. Still have a strong OoC win% vs P4

[@tomanderson1942]

Well, how many SEC teams share Lane Kiffin's opinion that "you might as well be in different leagues, not conferences, The NFL, the SEC, a few big 10 teams, and everyone else." These bowl results with Georgia, Alabama, Tennessee, South Carolina, Texas A+m, all losing, while Texas and Missouri squeaked out victories kind of shows the SEC belongs in the league with "everyone else." This happens in sports when teams get arrogant about how great they are, then get stomped.

[@Golfing422]

With a 12 team playoff, it will never be the same. Now a good player can play for another team and have a shot at making the playoffs with 2 losses. The monopoly is over.

[@natureboyain24]

MattBeLying needs to start calling Alabama “lilbroBama” 😂

[@fgnz562]

MattBeBiased back at it

[@daredevil5072]

Sec dominance is over. We are talking about the next 20 plus years and this year.

[@MrChucklepuff]

and by "we" you mean Ohio State and Michigan. 2 teams

[@aaronvest3221]

The Big Ten hasn’t been better than the SEC in a long time (Ohio State fan here), but this year the top half of the Big Ten was better than the top half of the SEC. It really was a one off. This year the SEC was more balanced than typical because it didn’t have any top heavy teams. This also led to Vandy having the year they did. Congrats to them on a good year, but that record this year is not the same as achieving that record in others. This year, that was the case because it was simply a down year for the SEC. Won’t be the case next year. I think the Big Ten and SEC will be pretty much even next year. And yes…….bottom half of the Big Ten was still terrible. Love watching your videos though. Agree with most of your takes, but not this one.

[@brandonconforto315]

Ohio state fan here and i agree. The SEC has been the best conference since the late 2000s, it was evident when they blew out two of Jim Tresells teams(who I thought was very overrated). It seems to be reverting back to pre 2006 where it would vary year to year as far as who the best conference was. It usually was between the Big Ten, Big 12 and SEC but even the Big East and Pac 10 would have some strong years

[@aaronvest3221]

Yeah and I’m an Ohio State fan that lives in Georgia. Have been down here since I was 7 so 30 years now. All I watch for the most part is Ohio State and SEC because all my buddies are die hard UGA fans. The top end of the SEC just wasn’t where they normally are this year and that’s okay. Doesn’t mean those top teams wont be back the their normal selves next year. This year……. it was as though there was Ole Miss and three carbon copies of them in the SEC (not scheme wise, but how their performance varied so much). Typical of Ole Miss, but not of the typical top teams in the SEC. As an Ohio State fan in the south it was mind boggling.

[@brandonconforto315]

@ oh really? That's small world because i used to be an Ohio State fan that lived in Georgia. i lived in Ohio and then moved to Georgia when i was 16 and left when i was 21. I lived down there in the mid to late 2000s so it was brutal time to be an Ohio State fan back then haha. Are you saying they aren't as physical as they used to be? I have noticed that since 2019 its become more of an offensive league. I call it the Joe Burrow effect because of that 2019 LSU team and how they won their championship.

[@aaronvest3221]

Some of the teams still have the physicality, but offensively the top end teams just aren’t clicking like they used to. Georgia has had a couple of halves where they really clicked. Same with Alabama and Texas. Qb play in the SEC was far under where it typically is this year and I think any unbiased person would admit that. As far as defenses go Alabama’s just wasn’t anywhere near where it typically is, and I’m not sure why but Georgia’s pass defense had its good moments, but my lord they had a ton of bad moments too. It was painful to watch sometimes. Just weird to see. Almost like there is too much disconnect from coaches at the top programs coming and going so often at a high rate and it’s now catching up to them.

[@drfoulcheese]

The problem is you SEC fan boys talk so much sh!t about being the best and more deserving teams and then south carolina loses to Illinois, Alabama loses to Michigan etc. You're missing the point. People are tired of hearing your terrible takes and when they prove you wrong, you can't handle it. You can't handle the truth lol.

[@DreamKrazy2028]

Just wanted to congratulate you MattBeDaddy on becoming a father. I also couldn’t believe that you have a grandfather named MattBeVandy. Hope you have a happy and blessed new year in all seriousness!!!

[@lpslover8627]

They are talking about THIS year, not the previous 20 years where conference-wide player-buying was going on in the SEC (illegally) It's a new world now and the playing field has been leveled. And we all think that the SEC's current cock-gagging indicates they are not going to be able to adapt with dominance intact.

[@rchurch2769]

Reminds me of how a friend of mine acted when his wife filed for divorce. He just kept harping about the last twenty years while his soon to be ex was out having a great time and making new friends.

[@garyklyce713]

Stick with me as this will need to be a long response. IMHO the SEC is overrated this year because it was never appropriately rated in the previous 20+ years or so and here’s why. Since the start of the BCS through the 4 team playoffs. The road in which a college football champion was crowned went through SEC country, ACC and southern territory of the PAC-12. That means schools from the BIG 10, northern PAC-12, BIG-12 and ACC teams always played at a geographical disadvantage in these bowl/playoff settings. Imagine a scenario in which the NFL told teams like the Packers, Steelers, Patriots, Bears, Giants, Seahawks etc… that they could never host a home playoff game no matter what their record was. You would say that’s not real football and it’s not in the true spirit of competitive sports. So essentially the SEC, Clemson, Texas, USC and Florida St. basically were given a guaranteed home field advantage by the NCAA and its sponsors, and as you start to stack those bowl, playoff and championship wins it creates a snowball effect in recruiting and rankings that led to a dominance that the SEC has been able to maintain, especially when you compound academic standards compared to the other major conferences you get the last 20+ years of SEC greatness. So why is that changing now, easy answer is NIL and Transfer Portal. But I would also add CFP home playoff games location and calendar of the bowl season. The SEC is simply not built for the type of weather you will see in places like Ann Arbor, Columbus, Happy Valley, Madison, Eugene, etc.. So with roster parity home field is really going to play an advantage moving forward.

[@jonspurgfin7229]

Great point

[@garyklyce713]

@ I don’t blame the SEC nor do I want to take anything away from them. I would however just like for their fans and commissioner to acknowledge the fact that the advantage did exist and it did matter.

[@shanewilliams6718]

The transfer portal has real evened out the field. Those home playoff games are crucial. The long wait for higher seeds definitely hurts them as well

[@garyklyce713]

@ yeah they have to fix the seeding and schedule issues

[@JaymoTheBro]

Im personally talking about this year. The past 20 years, the SEC has easily been the best conference but this year, the Big Ten is better. Look at the bowl season record between the two, 4-1 Big Ten leads

[@Aviator-Chicken]

Talent is far spread out than it’s ever been before. That’s honestly great for the sport. Although I don’t agree with how sloppy the transition is with everything feeling like the Wild West and no rules on the portal or NIL. This is how it always should’ve been. But even with a sloppy year for the SEC I would still take most SEC teams over majority of other teams in the ACC, and Big Ten

[@clintwells149]

Let's be honest. Texas is big 12 team. I understand it doesn't exist but you can't say the big 12 sucks and then ask the question if Texas wins is the SEC still the best conference.

[@dwolfe401]

Mattbe30 is hanging onto a Big 12 team cosplaying as an SEC team.

[@anthonyoliveiraribeiro6646]

MattBeFullOfBabyOil, The last 20 years don't come into play now, specially now that everyone can pay players, but it's crazy the false narratives they making on you, great vid and happy 40th birthday And one of our biggest problems with SEC fans is the "coulda woulda shoulda", the hundreds and hundreds of hypotheticals "oh, It could've gon either way" well, it didn't goddamnit, it's just like Oregon fans, "oh but we didn't have this guy and this guy against OSU" and? Yall still lost, that's the point, don't live on the maybes, live on the realities

[@surelyiamunique]

Respect the Lane Train MattaviousbeHumpinMen

[@Jordan_Lee0298]

Players used to go to SEC schools because the SEC had the highest number of players getting drafted into the NFL than any other conference in the country. Nowadays, college football isn't about going to the program that has the best setup to develop you into a great player, but now they're choosing to go to which team has the most NIL money to offer them, and they could care less about the rest of it.

[@Watermark61]

Naw. Many, including past SEC coaches have stated that the bag was alive and well. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to understand this.

[@DoctorM2030]

Day 3 of asking MattBeHavinAnAstronomicallyBigButt what the gibberish he says at the last 2 seconds of the video is

[@SnafuTLGOP]

I’m can honestly say I don’t have bama fatigue, my team started off 2024 by defeating bama and ended 2024 by beating bama.

[@OhioOwns]

when ppl say "the SEC was overrated this yr," they're not talking about the last 20. and with as in-your-face as you folks have been about it the past few yrs, you would expect ppl to say something when "Team SEC" is having such an awful season. forget the fact that in the playoff era, "Team SEC" has had 4 total schools appear, and 3 win it(one particular team multiple times), and now the B1G has had 3 teams appear, and 2 win it. forget the fact that before Saban went to Bama, their flagship program, Bama had quite a few absolutely horrible seasons. things only started looking up when Saban got there, but as soon as he leaves they're supposed to stay on the same trajectory? with respect, this is where Bama was before he came, and this is probably where they'll live every season until they hire the next big-name coach. they're not like "lil' bro State," where they've had about 15 or 20 losing seasons in 125+ yrs :)

[@JeremyJohnson-q6i]

FINALLY! Yall SEC fans told us (Texas) for that last few years that the SEC was a guantlet, and that we wouldnt be good immediately, but here we are, the last representatives for the conference year 1. Say what you want about the schedule, but we're still in the playoffs.

[@user-vx2fw7qe1n]

Bro as a Texas fan, I don’t think we gonna win it man, I just want to state that, so I don’t want to toot the horn yet

[@AngelOfKingvon]

Texas truly played nobody at all. And they got dogwalked by Georgia not once, but twice, and grasped for air to stay above water against ASU. Texas is a good team for sure, but like I said they missed a lot of SEC teams. They’ll really be tested against OSU.

[@BigBackMac]

@@AngelOfKingvonthey still played all of the mid to lower ranked SEC teams which many people legitimately believe would win any other power conference

[@AngelOfKingvon]

@ yeah that’s just SEC Stan’s. The lower SEC teams are alright but people acted as if they were powerhouses.

[@xappletrol9457]

Chill yall won over a bad ref call

[@bucktodd4207]

Great content enjoy listening. Your take on the sec being the best this season no way look at what the B1G has done this bowl season.

[@RJtheGOD]

1:08 “So big and so huge” my first time hearing that😔

[@VMohdude-]

Listen to me, there’s nothing wrong with you man😢

[@Point-kp7ef]

With nil and the portal it's coming down to coaching culture and player retention

[@djDrums08]

MaggyBeSaggy

[@MJMIVTrumpet]

W

[@BAMA_COBRA]

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[@HokieGreenbud]

Love ya Matt keep up the good work been a subscriber for a few years now and every day I look forward to watching and this video has been a long time coming and I believe this year is the start of the sec downfall the whole country is sick of the sec dominating football and a shift is coming mark my words another conference or the rest of the conference’s will be on the rise! Anyway keep up the good work bro 😎

[@LandonFaucher]

“I have an astronomically, extremely, enormous big butt!” -The one and only MarvinBeGay

[@LuemD]

14:08 That’s funny because none of the top ten players in Heisman votes was playing at a SEC team

[@dylanhackworth2652]

Alabama has hired MattBeGreat as their head football coach to replace Kalen DeBoer

[@Cooljohn760]

He will be on the hot seat, going 7-5 year 1😂

[@redjack7296]

​@@Cooljohn760Mattbegooning will go undefeated and win the natty

[@dylanhackworth2652]

@@Cooljohn760 Matt would actually do really good

[@Cooljohn760]

@dylanhackworth2652 you're probably right. I was just joking saying this

[@dylanhackworth2652]

@@Cooljohn760 LOL

[@lsusc]

I am curious. Who rates conferences? Is there a rating organization out there somewhere?

[@galberini34]

BIG 10 Nattys 31 SEC Nattys 27

[@techlorknight338]

13 of those in the last 18 years at that

[@BigBackMac]

And if you don’t want to count the ones before the sec was founded 15

[@Mmmmchocolate]

Best sec team this year is a big 12 team that barely made it this far. 😂

[@BozBoy101]

if notre dame wins the natty, alabama should become independant

[@BAMA_COBRA]

Why Alabama?

[@The.ARCHIT3CT]

Not MattBeFlippin repping Texas, a first year SEC team 💀

[@Cooljohn760]

I Said it once, I'm going to say it again. No conference is perfect, no conference is better than anyone else. SEC was never the best, nor is anyone else. Get rid of the narrative that one conference is better than everyone else.

[@Woods1528]

They’re not the best every single year but overall, they typically are. At least in the last 27 years.

[@joshsarabia]

It’s almost as if teams improve when everyone can pay their players. (SEC we looking at you)

[@Nate......]

The SEC has won 15 out of the last 20 national championships. Other conferences have a long ways to go before they are the best conference. You can't just do it in 1 or 2 years. The SEC didn't! They did it over a 20-year period! Talk to me 15-20 years from now when 1 conference has dominated all the other conferences. Then we can have an intelligent conversation. PS. There is no best conference in college football this year they're all pretty even.

[@MattBuild4]

what you fail to recognize is how many of those seasons included controversial selections of teams that amazingly favored at least 1 SEC team in literally every season except 1. Kinda hard to win championships if you cant even make the game because the selection system is sus af.

[@Nate......]

@@MattBuild4 only controversial to you! And which season are you talking about? Because I've been watching football for a long time and outside of Ohio Clemson and Oregon a couple of times. Everyone else non-sec sucked! NIL has helped non-sec conferences. In other words non-sec conferences are the ones that needed the help and that is the only reason why they are more competitive now. Because they got help when they wasn't competitive duh! So stop trying to act like they've always been as good because if that was the case they would be dominating now after all the help they've received 🤔 the NIL & transfer portal was a blessing to none sec. College football literally lended them a helping hand so that they can compete and be more relevant. That's not because they've been just as good as the SEC all along. Sometimes you don't listen to yourself 🤷

[@MattBuild4]

@@Nate...... Uh no thats not true at all.... (btw this would be a very long list if you wanna go through all seasons). 2003 - LSU played OU. Oklahoma lost the B12 championship game 35-7 to KSU. Yet OU still made the title game over #1 (AP ranked) USC. Really - you dont think this was controversial? 2006 - UF played Ohio State. First of all theres an undefeated team that didnt even make the game (so either remove all your claimed titles in the AP era for undefeated seasons or recognize this a controversial season). Second and more importantly the selection this season VERBATIM CONTRADICTS 2011. #1 OSU beat #2 Michigan by 3; UM misses the championship in favor of UF because two team from the same conference shouldnt play for a title. #1 LSU beats #2 Alabama by 3; Alabama still makes the title game because????? Oh funny how the logic magically isnt consistent then in 2011.

[@MattBuild4]

@@Nate...... 2007 - LSU plays Ohio State - 7 of the top 8 teams have the same record this season. Good luck explaining why LSU is more qualified to be the national champion over Georgia, Kansas, USC or West Virginia...... 2008 - UF plays OU - First of all both teams make the title game as one-loss teams. Strange considering two undefeated teams magically didnt make it. Second of all how are you gonna claim that UF is better than Texas in 2008? Cuz you beat OU? So did Texas. Texas tied Oklahoma in the B12, and OU made the conference championship game because of a coin toss..... You dont think thats controversial? 2008 Utah finished undefeated and had 5 BCS computer polls rank them #1 in the nation. You dont think was contreversial? You do realize after this season the MWC submitted an 8-team playoff because they were pissed off that their conference champions kept going undefeated and not making the title game. When this playoff was rejected the G5 sued the league in a way that has never been seen since. Not only did these lawsuits scare the ever loving piss out of the BCS and NCAA in a way you couldnt even imagine, but they are also far more likely a major reason the CFP was created. (These lawsuits culminated in a 12 university class action, 4 stare government action, federal investigation and federal trial of the league seeking in excess of over $2 billion in penalties).

[@MattBuild4]

@@Nate...... 2009 Alabama played Texas - 5 teams went undefeated this season. How are you gonna claim an undisputed title in a 2 team post season when you have 5 undefeated teams? One of these teams that didnt make it, went undefeated in back to back years and beat the crap out of the PAC Champion in OOC. In fact the #1 offense nor the #1 defensive teams in the nation played in the national title game despite both being undefeated. 2010 - Auburn played Oregon. One undefeated team didnt make it. Even more confusing is that this undefeated team, went undefeated in back to back seasons, and ranked higher than both Auburn and Oregon to start the season - meaning they were jumped in the ranking despite never losing. TCU gets a lot of crap for what happened in 2022, but what a lot of people forget is that TCU has had about 5 better teams get ridiculously shafted for post seasons prior to 2022. On paper the best team in program history for TCU is in 2010, and given their resume its pretty ludicrious this team didnt make. They actually were awarded a national championship by 3 NCAA polls. 2010 TCU went 13-0 beating 5 top 25 teams including a top 4 B10 champion. This team ranked #4 in total offense, #1 in total defense, and #2 in margin of victory. This team shutout 4 opponents, held 3 top 10 offenses to season low offensive production and 55% of their schedule couldnt score a TD on them. This TCU team like a lot of extremely underrated G5 teams at the time was yoked af with NFL talent. To such a degree that 2010 TCU had more NFL drafted players on their roster than 2010 Oregon and 2010 Auburn combined..... 3 of the players on 2010 TCU even went all-pro in the NFL, and the QB of this team still plays in the NFL 13 years later and has 40K in the pros. yet this sport acted like this team couldnt compete for some reason.

[@dl_0002]

It all comes down to one thing: NIL and Transfer Portal has evened the playing field. It's the reason the SEC lost a bunch of bowl games and the reason Deboer lost more heavily-favored games in 1 year than Saban did in 14. It's going to be a lot harder to maintain a dominant powerhouse program.

[@crashxd1286]

Texas winning the national championship would be a the BIG 12

[@dionteburch3752]

It won’t

[@GMECCULOVER]

1 year doesn't wipe out 25 years of dominance

[@RadicallyOptimistic]

The past should not influence how we rank teams

[@RagingBlackGuy]

Exactly there’s a reason it’s called the most “league ready conference”

[@MattBuild4]

Dominance? How is it dominance when the supermajority of your titles come with asterisks due to controversy in selection of teams?

[@RagingBlackGuy]

@ stop the SEC is called the most league ready conference for a reason

[@MattBuild4]

@@RagingBlackGuy Which really doesnt mean anything because NFL practice is 100 times harder than SEC championship schedule.

[@eldencampbell7413]

Video starts at 7:01

[@nathanvandyke9951]

If Texas wins the national championship, yes, the SEC is still overrated. Why? Because most of the juniors and seniors on the rosters were recruited when Texas was in the Big 12 and still going about 8-4 every season. I know that when they announced the move, it did marginally help recruiting, but this roster is about 80% Big 12 recruits who committed to Texas before they won the Big 12, so it's not like Texas was seen as anything more than a potentially middle of the pack team in the SEC. Going from decent in the Big 12 to an anticipated middle of the pack SEC team doesn't start bringing in 5 stars like Alabama or Georgia. All it says is that the team that struggled their way to a Big 12 title last year was able to just about the same thing in the SEC this year. This year's Texas team vs last year's is like 2022 Michigan vs 2021 Michigan. Maybe a little more talented, but not enough to make a huge difference. So, the idea of a Big 12 school almost winning the SEC actually holds a lot of weight. Texas didn't get a huge boost in recruiting due to joining the SEC, they got a boost in recruiting due to their success over the last 3 seasons.

[@ShaneMichealCupp]

If cope could be turned into rice this video could feed a village in the Philippines for a year.

[@j5rxmseyfrr]

MattbeLilBro, how do you feel about clowning on THE Ohio State for losing to Michigan then proceeding to get MANHANDLED by Michigan. Or should I say MattbeDiddy? And on another note, How did it feel to lose to michigan to start the year AND to end the year ?

[@Foggydidwhat]

The SEC in recent history is the conference version of Travis Hunter’s 2024 Heisman campaign. Both had preseason hype from media coverage, both were very good but not the best, both still got postseason accolades and awards, and both get NFL benefits.