We Need To Talk... The Future of Darwin on the Trail

[@deborahfraser9325]

Get a sponsor, get a Patreon account, get an editor. Do what you need to do to bring content to your channel. This is a business venture and that is what is needed to do well. I really like this channel. Love the trips, the gear reviews, and anything else you present. I'm a fan!

[@sweepingdenver]

Agreed. Absolutely nothing wrong with having sponsors. It’s not incompatible with having unbiased reviews. We support you!

[@DarwinOnthetrail]

Thanks for the support! Also… I’ve had a Patreon account for the past 7 years 😉

[@melodyhenry500]

As far as content, this is something I have wondered, but can’t find evidence of….. has anyone ever hiked the Blue Blazes (only) from beginning to end on the AT? There are so many on the AT, but if your a thru hiker, many times, it’s full steam ahead, white blazes. So I just wonder if it is doable by blue blazes only? Just food for thought…

[@zhukov43]

I honestly don’t care if you have sponsored content, you’ve got bills to pay and hikes/climbing to fund, you’re one of a few creators that definitely aren’t shilling. Keep on kicking on.

[@dustenmccammond5689]

i have gotten into hiking at an older age. Some of my favorite talks you have done have been on keeping in shape and avoiding injury. Anything along those lines would be great.

[@kasai1575]

I'm definitely interested in seeing more videos about where gear comes from in the outdoor space! It would also be cool to see your opinion on the best hikes you've done, e.g. your favorite 1 night, 1 week, 1 month, and multi-month trips.

[@PapaBoiOutdoors]

How gear is made sounds very compelling to me. I don't see how anyone has a right to say anything about you being sponsored???? I watch these videos for free and I can even fast forward past adds most of the time! If it keeps you going and we get what we look forward to, it is a win/win in my book. Thanks Darwin and keep the videos coming!

[@epdaddy]

Six year subscriber, first time commenting. Upon reflection, the allure of the channel is content which informs and inspires. Continue doing both and I’ll continue watching. Cheers!

[@Michael_Rega]

What you’re doing for the channel and yourself is amazing. I could care less if you had a sponsor editor or any other things discussed, I just appreciate your openness, transparency, and honesty with us. This is something that we do not see all in all too often this day. Also, the information and inspiration to become more active in the outdoors, helped me to started backpacking back in 2019 and now getting into longer trips with bike packing. Your support for public lands is something that is admirable, and I wish more people had as well and further gave me the inspiration to take a career to help protect and assist in the management of these lands for the public. I do not have enough thank yous for you.

[@juliefrechette7562]

Darwin, I have been a fan since 2017!!! You have inspired me to start backpacking even if I felt I was old and out of shape. I have loved the evolution of your channel, so this is just the next step, I'm glad you will get help. I love the trip videos, also how to prepare for a trip and anything behind the scenes! I also love learning about activities I'm not familiar with like bikepacking and mountaineering. Can't to see what's next! 🤩

[@survivewithout]

I would like to see a video on any exercises or stretching routines you do or recommend for feet and calves or a good packrafting adventure. A little hiking and packrafting mixed together 😊. By the way I think your making a fantastic move hiring an editor. The fact is we only have so much time in a day. Keep up the great work.

[@mrweller400]

Love the new impulses for the channel! Viewing behind the curtains is a great idea - I would love to know more about some big brands, but also your own company... I am excited to see where you are going to take us!

[@nathansprowls4735]

The deep dive in the gear companies would be fun to watch and know more about each company and the people behind the scenes! Welcome back and keep up the good work!

[@ajevans8814]

I have always loved your gear breakdown and evaluation videos. Your channel is one of the ones I go to get my gear fix.

[@CoasttoCoastOutdoorAdventures]

You do whatever is needed to “Evolve” your channel. Looking forward to whatever content you create.

[@jaredkirk2500]

I love this channel! I don't have any new ideas for videos or series that you haven't done, but I'm here for what you put out in the future.

[@pyronymph-868]

I love seeing videos focused on the trips you have taken. Even if they are shorter installments of the same trip, I would watch; scenery changes. I won't be able to afford international trips, so watching those is great for me.

[@ryanschwatken4121]

Love the idea of seeing how the gear is made and knowing more about the companies that make the gear. Keep up the awesome work!

[@ajmeijer6854]

I just love how much you care about people. I co-hosted and co-produced a podcast for almost 10 years and we didn’t want to bring people on board without paying them…and in the world of content creation, that typically means needing some kind of sponsorship. Keep up the great work! As far as video ideas… You’ve done something like this before, but it has probably changed a lot - *especially* with new adventures like mountaineering. But I was thinking seeing your preparation for your adventures. Similar to what Cody Townsend was doing for The Fifty videos. You don’t necessarily need to do avy prep and predictions…but what *do* you do to prep for your adventures. Thanks as always, good sir!

[@TrevorVanahill]

Hey Darwin, thanks for doing a giveaway! Personally I've really gotten into bikepacking and hiking so I would love content around these activities whether they be trip videos, gear reviews, BTS of gear companies, or documentaries about trails and communities. Thanks and take care

[@jeremylince9307]

I'm here for the trip videos. While I used to appreciate gear reviews, I've adventures enough that my gear is dialed in exactly for me and the types of trips I go on. Any new purchase would either be a replacement of something that malfunctioned or an insignificant upgrade. I'm eager to hike vicariously through your videos to places that my family commitments just don't allow me to.

[@footprintsandtyretracks]

Unless you’ve tried to make your own KZbin videos, it’s hard to appreciate the time and effort that goes into it. From getting the content to editing & knowing how to piece it all together to make it interesting. It’s not easy & extremely time consuming. Getting an editor is an awesome idea. I do miss your long trip videos!

[@seanmanear9860]

You know what would be a great video? A "What to do when specific things go wrong on trail". Like, what happens if your backpack strap breaks, or what if you go to filter water and nothing comes out of your water filter, or what happens if you get to a campsite late in a day and every single available spot is taken. What do I do if I wake up on my second day and my calves hurt so bad I can barely extend my feet. Just some reference guides that could help prepare someone who was planning a trip to fall back on if something did go wrong.

[@erinharvanek143]

Love this!

[@peek-a-moose2491]

Answers: 1 - Backpack Strap broken --- Make sure you have needle and thread and take a lightweight emergency strap with you and some wire. Have some rope and a knife. And some tape. All these will come in handy in fixing the backpack. You can cut a hole in the separate parts of the strap and put the rope through and tie it and then add some of that great gorilla tape or your favorite tape to reinforce if you don't have an extra strap with you. Use your brain and you will fix it. 2 - broken water filters -- read the instructions. No how to clean it. Make sure it works before you go into the wilderness. Wash it out properly. Carry water furification tablets and an ultraviolet light with you. 3- getting to a crowded campsite with no availability. -- Duh - Keep walking and stealth camp in quieter and more pleasant place. Or scream and yell at people who were there ahead of you and call them selfish if they don't make a space for you. 4 - Calves hurt you can't extend your legs..... Point your toes upward and backward while lying down. If that doesn't work, take ibuprofen and wait. If it still hurts you may have to stay put for a day or two. Worse comes to worse signal for emergency help. 5 - Reference guides -- they already exist. There are many books on backpacking and it covers nearly every situation. Find a good book or two and read them!!!!!! And learn first aid and carry a good first aid kit.... Don't worry about the extra weight. Ultralight is a dangerous game. Carry what you need. Remember: you can easily carry up to one-third of your weight. If you can't do that, then you should train. There - You don't need a half hour video by someone who may not have the correct knowledge although they claim years of experience and have a KZbin channel. Stop relying on these KZbinrs and get out there. There is much more info in books......

[@jeffwest195]

I am happy you have a chance to partner with quality products. I have trusted your stuff for so long now. Keep up the amazing travel videos. My daughter and I bonded over your PCT series. Your old budget gear videos were interesting and helpful to get me options. Thanks again!

[@ms7fam433]

You are a business owner that is providing for his family. Keep making the best decisions for you. We like the trip videos best, and will continue watching other content that interests us. Thanks for all the great content you have produced. ..

[@alexmarchica5264]

Huge fan of your work brother! Been here since the beginning and always appreciated the time you put into your vidoes and Q&A’s. You created a community of like minded people with your channel. I like the hiking vidoes and would like to see more smaller trails and logistics of parking/shuttles for those trails. Stuff like lost coast, sea to skyline, etc still that’s smaller and can be done in a week or so for those who would have to take PTO. KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK MAN!

[@johnc5450]

As to the sponsorship, you do you! I love the honest gear reviews so I appreciate that you’re planning to keep it that way! As far as ideas, maybe shorter hike ideas for those who can’t afford months on a trail. Maybe 3 days to a week hiking opportunities in different parts of the country (US). Thanks for being real!

[@crthompso]

I've loved having you back and am very interested in your upcoming Himalayan content. Keep it up!

[@MstRNate21]

I actually love that your channel is already a mix of everything. Its not only the ins and outs of backpacking but also getting to see your story unfold along the way.❤

[@amandagroszkruger4956]

I love the content where you teach how to be a more efficient hiker. I think I watched your “how I pack my backpack” video 8 times and then spent an hour practicing packing and unpacking. 😆 Made my trip feel so much less clunky.

[@sindex]

When this started up, I hoped the "future of the channel" was that you were hiring an editor. Glad to know sponsorships are allowing that and that you're busy enough with ideas to keep things moving. Looking forward to the future of the channel!

[@MrBeerGuy]

Hiking my first longer hike of 160 miles this summer. Love all the content!

[@owlimp2603]

Love the update! Maybe a series where you go on a trip with first time backpacker and give tips/ show where beginners may need help

[@boundlesstrek]

Hello Nick. Oh you've been on the trail for many years now. I think it'd be neat to have you talk about 10 greatest moments on trail and where they were, what you were doing and why it was so great to you. I know that's kind of personal but some I'd like to be a part of.

[@isaacruthen9313]

Trip videos and longer form documentary type videos are definitely what I am interested in. Excited to see what’s next!

[@Misterion25]

I think your plan sounds excellent. I appreciate your openness and I have no issues with it. Looking forward to the behind the scenes gear production videos.

[@mjeh1]

Personally, I'm most likely to actually watch trip videos.

[@mrwhirly0358]

Agreed!

[@Floki1624]

@@mrwhirly0358 Double Agree.

[@TXMEDRGR]

triple agree

[@SychJess]

Quadruple agree.

[@ahoward8590]

Hike your own hike, run your own channel. However you do it, I am just glad you are doing it. My favorite content would include both the actual trip videos, and the trip prep/logistic planning videos. Just wanted to say thank you for creating this content. Yours was the first backpacking channel I was introduced to, and thanks to the information and inspiration I have gotten here, I will be doing my first ever section hike of the AZT (SOBO) starting this Saturday!

[@patrickhogan2800]

Hey Darwin, I’m 59 years old and took up backpacking in Michigan about 5 or 6 years ago. You have been an invaluable source of information & inspiration, and I am now about to do my first thru hike this August (John Muir Trail). I don’t have any great ideas for videos as you seem to touch on most everything I’m interested in. Possibly some “how to” videos such as fording a river, or other back country safety stuff. Thanks for what you do!

[@tim9324]

Like a few already mentioned here, I’ve reconnected to backpacking at an older age from when I was a boyscout and my daughter now joins me. I’ve finally fitted out our gear list after renting for the past two years. Love the trip videos. Keep them coming.

[@zachglickmann8525]

Sounds like you’re at the point of becoming a people manager or burn out on your endeavor. I hope you can make the transition, I really enjoy your content and find it educational as well. Good luck!

[@michaelb1761]

The 3rd backpacking trip of my life was the JMT in 2015 at the age of 46. I fell in love with the Sierra on that trip, and I hope you do as well.

[@thadhufflife]

I appreciate your genuine input on products you like and the little issues you find through experience. You are an expert voice with tons of miles under your belt and so your wise counsel is helpful when considering future hikes, products, or issues we might experience while on trail.

[@iviewthetube]

I'm sure that your viewers come from a variety of backgrounds and interests. Mine is camping out of a kayak. Most anyone who I talk to about outdoor gear knows who Darwin is.

[@knotfinley]

Glad to see you back. Maybe a video on the down and dirty of trip planning. Hike selection and mapping the trail, where do you look for information. Do you replan exit routes, etc.

[@ethanprice6780]

The most anxiety-inducing sentence, “we need to talk.”

[@timshields8720]

Get a life

[@deborahfraser9325]

Ain't that the truth!

[@musingwithreba9667]

Riiiiight!? 😂

[@meghanleeming8224]

Happy to hear the channel continuing and opening my eyes to ON x backcountry. The gear reviews are always a plus and helping me decide on different pieces of gear for my upcoming AT thru hike.

[@leonardobertinelli7121]

I’d love to see a little more of mountaineering content and definitely the series about how gear comes to life. Thank you!

[@mercedesaponte6201]

I'm glad you're back on KZbin. I'm 60 and love backpacking. I was at the first Big Bear Lake Highlander Tour in 2022. Fun group; Aljosa, Igor, Ivana, and also the Shayne and Mateo (ZPacks). I was hoping to see everyone at Glacier this September but ....

[@snapman218]

Downvoted for the clickbait and unsubscribed

[@erindewhirst2044]

I’ve always just loved your trail diaries! Your style always “takes me there” and I appreciate your editing. When you get an editor I hope they stay true to your style!

[@ChuckDowe]

I love the idea of seeing more of how our outdoor gear gets made. Especially the ones that are or started as a post-trip inspired need/want from their experience.

[@richardjaques4452]

Thank you for being a window into a world I did not now existed. I have watched your videos for many years. For the last three years I have been section hiking local trails. Something I had never thought of doing before. I may never thru-hike either domestically or abroad, but appreciate being included in your journeys.

[@christopherch7307]

Good feedback idea possibly. Feature more 100 mile through hikes give or take for those unable to commit to the big trails.... For those of us who have full time jobs these smaller hike are more doable during vacation times. Here in SC we have the Foothills Trail for example a 76 mile trail. Thanks, 👍🐿👍

[@karensmith5116]

I have always enjoyed the gear commentary along with your hikes. That being said, I feel I will enjoy your new fresh ideas and I love you sharing hikes to places many of us may never get to go. I like Darwin on the Trail 2.0!

[@DarwinOnthetrail]

Howdy! You're a WINNER of an Evolved Supply Co. 1100 Ti Pot. Please shoot me an email with your address & I'll get it shipped out! [e-mail] Thanks so much for the Support & Congrats! 🎉

[@aozame5479]

This is the right direction for you and your followers. This channel deserves support both financially and professionally. During your most recent live stream, it was obvious how dialed in you are with your gear selection. Pease continue with gear “wins” and “fails.” Especially gear that you travel with from airport to airport.

[@CrowMagnumMan2024]

I think its a great idea to accept sponsorships from quality companies......what you do takes funding....funding lets you immerse yourself without distraction into your creative endeavors.....which translates into us getting more of you....!!!!! Thanks a million for all your great videos over the years.......

[@ASTHECROWFLIESHIKING]

I watch all your stuff, whether it is trip videos, tip videos, or reviews of products. You are one of the reasons I got into this. So, whatever you want to put out there...I'll be watching it. Thanks for your content and channel. Crow

[@WallowaHikes]

First off, you look and feel so much happier than when I met you about a year ago in Cascade Locks. Thanks for your integrity and positivity! What would I like to see? The things that have resonated most with me are the content that encourages new backpackers and reassures them that we are a community. Having just unsubscribed from two major content channels for selling out and losing the spirit of why they started, I just want to see you speaking to and encouraging the virgin backpackers out there 😊

[@marilynboyd2175]

Your channel is my favorite. I love the idea of seeing the gear companies and how gear is made! That would be so fun!

[@chrisnielsen76]

Love your videos! I think is a good thing you got sponsorships instead of having to quit! I would love more tripvideos but also gear-reviews!

[@jdude9922]

Some of your first videos were what helped me get into backpacking. I really liked the interview you did with a new backpacker recently. It hit on lots of stuff the majority of backpacking channels miss: logistics. I would love to see some more videos like that. We focus so much of making sure people have the right gear that we forget that most don't even know how to go about finding somewhere to hike.

[@adventuresofbink]

You can’t make all the people happy all of the time, do what you need to in order to keep your joy alive. Great idea to give some in depth visits to cottage companies, I love hearing about the way they started, where they got their ideas and what they’re dreams are! Your platform is a great way to share that and support other entrepreneurs and small companies.

[@silverturtle1105]

I'm here for your personality, insight, and showing me new things. You've inspired me to challenge myself creatively and I'll watch your videos whatever direction you take them.

[@ricardojorge5886]

Been watching you for years now Darwin. You've both taught and inspired me. My hikes have been more varied as of late and I would like to hear your insight on what to consider when setting up camp in different environments (beach, above treeline, snow, jungle, etc...). Thanks again for the years of videos. Do what you gotta do to keep the channel going the way you want it to.

[@HungaroExplorer]

Aloha from Hawaii! First of all, I am happy to see you "spreading out" your skills from thru-hiking and backpacking to climbing and mountaineering. As humans we always have to evolve! Getting sponsorships are a great way to step forward and doing great things. DON'T listen to the haters! Use their negative energy to fuel your journey. Keep up the good work and looking forward for your Nepal videos. Aloha!

[@rick_peterson]

I really look forward to seeing what you are able to produce with editing help. Definitely want to see more trip videos (even short overnighters), with more detail on planning, logistics, food, new gear taken, new gear used, and overall trip thoughts, etc., on each of these trips. Good luck with the editor search and thanks for all the great content!

[@sisque6622]

I just want to say thanks for the content over all the years and I continue to look forward to your next adventures.

[@treysturgeon1089]

I love all content whether it be backpacking, bike packing, or mountain climbing. Just keep doing what you want to do and I will continue to watch!

[@wolfeadventures]

Very happy for how transparent you have been. I see zero issue at all having a sponsor. If you believe in the product that’s all that matters. I am trying OnX based on your recommendation. I’d love to see how gear is made and get an inside perspective of each company like Zpacks, Tarptent etc. maybe some interviews with the owners, designers and employees also. I watch all of your videos and really enjoy the variety.

[@sk-wx1cf]

I've been watching your videos for some years. You're one of the first KZbin hikers that I subscribed to. I've learned a lot from your gear reviews and travels. Thanks!

[@barbarab7702]

Darwin, I’ve loved watching all your hiking trips the most, and gear reviews a far second. Looking forward to continuing to follow your incredible adventures in the outdoors!

[@TheWarder500]

I’m glad you are taking sponsors now, it helps support the content we all love, I have no problems with it. I love seeing how products are made, I’d be interested In those types of videos.

[@jeffogden5058]

Your content helps to inspire me to do as much hiking as my busy life allows. Thank you for your years of hard work and dedication.

[@sallyfinch540]

You do it, I’ll watch it. Hikes, bike trips, gear review, all good. Getting extra help with producing videos is a great idea.

[@minimalisa]

I would love to see behind the scenes of many of the cottage and small businesses that are innovating in the outdoor spaces, including your company! Thank you for the many miles of inspiration.

[@erick6715]

I don’t need a cook pot ….. You’re a GREAT hiking guy with GREAT outdoor VIBES and ETHICS…. Which ever way Life takes you you’ll always remain.. that down to earth Hiker … I’m with you!!! 🍺

[@christophernixon8088]

I would never have been inspired to start backpacking if it wasn't stumbling on one of your "How I pack..." videos years ago. I'm happy with all the updates, and wish you the absolute best of luck.

[@masoncochran3825]

I always love a gear video. Mountaineering load outs, highlights on your favorite recent pieces, etc. Also trip videos. Been sick to watch your channel grow and evolve, excited for what’s next!

[@RichardShortland-Neal]

It’s great to see you back and producing more excellent content and I’m not bothered that the videos are sponsored as long as the sponsors are relevant to the videos you make. I for one would love to see videos for people on a limited budget or are just starting out thru hiking. Not all of us can afford the latest DCF tent but being able to lighten our packs with good quality gear that won’t break the bank would be a godsend.

[@lynnvachon9455]

I enjoy the mix of gear reviews, trips, and tips. I also love that you are documenting the social impacts of Western climbers to the people of Tibet. I would love to see more of that type of content. Thanks for all you do!

[@MrKraans]

Nice to see that you still be active on KZbin and wish you the best, have a nice day!

[@Ericidryfly]

I’ve been watching your videos for years and have always enjoyed them.. Keep doing what you need to do for success. Couple more videos on the background of other outdoor companies would be worth watching. Especially ones who produce their own gear on site.

[@kenyanexpat]

Darwin, I can't tell you how disappointed I an that people question your integrity. Best of luck in the future.

[@nuthatch127]

I love the trip videos, especially longer length videos that really spotlight your videographer skills. Those have always been some of my favorite videos of yours because the scenery that you present has been captured so beautifully.

[@travaden]

I like the concept of visiting brands, seeing the workshops, and hearing their stories. Additionally, it would be cool to go hike a local trail with those makers, using/highlighting their products in the field, so they can explain why they designed the product the way they did.

[@ColeFritcher-ri5jf]

Thanks for the inspiration Darwin! Few years back I hurt my back and was flat on the floor for a week. I binge watched your videos and caught the bug for distance hiking. My girlfriend and I bought your new backpack and did the Oregon PCT together for a slow 2 month, 500 miles. California TO Washington. We had a blast! Thank you. I would like to see a video about add-ons or custom additions to your gear, if that is possible? Your packs held up so well, no weak points or anything. Incredible! Cheers!

[@jaredhathaway2562]

Darwin, I’m a fan of your channel mostly because of your down to earth personality. I like trip videos perhaps most, but will likely watch whatever you put out. I do like the “where gear comes from” idea. Glad you are getting the help you need to be able to balance life. You don’t owe us anything, but I appreciate all the work you’ve put in to entertaining and helping us all these years!

[@philipvass]

Love all your content and understand that sponsors are a way to make quality content on a regular basis and not be broke. Keep doing you.

[@KirillGarder]

So nice to see you coping with your stuff and being a huge contributor to the community!!

[@brettpalik7722]

Hi @Darwin. I'm very excited to learn of the channel reboot. I'm also looking forward to seeing more from the trip archive. I've recommended your channel to countless people interested in hiking/camping as a place for their education and inspiration. Keep moving upward!

[@abrar4662]

I appreciate your authenticity Darwin. You represent outdoor recreation in such a beautiful and thoughtful way. I would love to see more of your company and more of your personal adventures, and absolutely more of the backstory of other outdoor companies that we know and love. Your videos are greatly helpful to all of us that aspire to be more like you. Keep doing your thing and inspiring people to get out there and make incredible memories in our beautiful backcountry!

[@expatadventureturkey9324]

When you put your heart and mind into what you enjoy, I’m sure it will be worth the wait and be great to watch and enjoy. Always a pleasure watching your content, short and long video content is a great resource for our community. Thanks for what you do! Standing by for what ever your heart and mind compel you to do. 🤙🏽

[@karstoutdoors1606]

The one thing that I think would make a good topic for videos is to show what it takes to build and maintain the trails that we love and use. I've seen so many outdoor channels showing everyone using the trails, but I can't say that I've seen any videos showing those people that work behind the scenes that make the trails a reality.

[@Steinbeck4life]

Multipart trip videos have always been my favorite. Thanks for the inspiration in these videos!

[@RandyBrown162]

I'm a newer follower. I don't see a problem with the ads as long as we know who is sponsoring. The experience you can share is very valuable for people like me trying to pass this on to a bunch of kids.

[@kjardavid]

I'm not a regular hiker (however a camping enthusiast), but love your channel. I really appreciate your attention to detail while at the same time giving your content relevant (and relatable) perspective. I'm happy to hear that you are continuing to cultivate balance in your life. That is inspirational. I encourage you to talk about how you maintain balance with your loved ones and the other things you love to do. Thank you and I wish you all the best!

[@aldenparam7585]

The behind the scenes look on different gear companies would be awesome! It would be interesting to see how each of these companies does things differently, and what new gear we may get a sneak peek on.

[@sharonszolomayer536]

Appreciate the honesty and transparency about the work behind the process. And glad you came back to YT after the hiatus!

[@EverestMystery]

Great talking to you this week. Funny that I'm about to do a similar video....albeit to a MUCH smaller community. Cheers buddy, keep slaying it 🤙

[@DarwinOnthetrail]

Fo sho my friend! Looking forward to seeing your video!

[@marcusnewey8287]

Good luck with the change of direction, hope it all works out well. I'd love to see some more of your bikepacking content

[@IMDNME]

Great having you back and looking forward to the new content. You deserve all the best for putting it all out there.

[@chase-mode]

Stoked to see what you can do with a team, considering what you’ve built on your own. I wanna see more on trail vlogging. It’s such a fun escape.

[@moscaman559]

Glad you’re happy doing what you love! Really enjoy the behind the scenes at some of the gear companies!

[@brandonwilliams2431]

As far as sponsors. You do you boo. A man's got to provide for the family, so get what you can. And don't ever lose focus of what matters most. That's your family matters more than anything. Just some thoughts from evansville indiana