You can tell these guys do not handle guns on the daily or the weekly. Especially love how the guy picks up the rifle with finger in the trigger without knowing if a round was chambered. Luckily no one was hurt in the filming of this episode of the Three Stooges!!!
@stevewheatley243 Жыл бұрын
I call BS on this video.
@yeeebayeeba4268 Жыл бұрын
Thank goodness the yt rang masters are in chat. I think yt lawyers and doctors should replace the real thing.
@craigpennington1251 Жыл бұрын
Yep, stand WAY BACK with these dudes on live fire guns.
@rogerxxxxxxx Жыл бұрын
I had to take motion sickness pills after watching. Never had enough time for noticing the fingers inside the trigger guards.
@monkeyboy7616 Жыл бұрын
I'm from the UK, so wondering why you don't have a separate safe for guns and a safe for ammo. Also these guys handling of guns was scary AF. God bless America 🫣
@ryannolin96923 жыл бұрын
Can't wait until they video my gun safe recovery from lake Michigan. I lost everything during a boating accident. 😞
@freddyg90263 жыл бұрын
Get ahold of adventures with purpose here on youtube, they recover things from water and travel the country.
@dirtyaznstyle41563 жыл бұрын
What are you doing out on Lake Michigan with a full gun safe? I’d never consider locking my firearms in a gun safe while traveling between hunting spots because my vehicle doesn’t have a gun safe.
@rickeycooley91393 жыл бұрын
No one go’s across Lake Michigan with a gun safe in a boat. Maybe in a ship, if you’re moveing.
@michaelkeryger1413 жыл бұрын
Completely disregard atf agent
@apimpnamedslickback27483 жыл бұрын
What a tragedy, same thing happened to me while out fishing one day. Over 30 guns lost forever. 😥
@MrBob8445 жыл бұрын
Looks to me like two guys not familiar with tools or guns being filmed by another guy not familiar with cameras.
@HERBALNATUMAN15 жыл бұрын
At least you are looking at some clips stop complaining 🤐
@alexfritz43115 жыл бұрын
hahahahahahahah. no shit eh I thought I was out of my mind.
@captainscarlett15 жыл бұрын
Bravo! Well said.
@ClericalConsequences5 жыл бұрын
Such a perfect comment
@jamesbarca72295 жыл бұрын
@@HERBALNATUMAN1 Who the hell are you to tell other people what to do or say? Fuck Off.
@FrankConforti3 жыл бұрын
My 2 cents. I have a similar safe to this one. I bought it for fire protection. It is strongly bolted to a concrete wall, the foundation of the fireplace and adjacent to a wall I built withe two hidden surprises that would require a lot to work around. On the last side is the furnace that would be tough to work around. When I bought it I made sure there was concrete 1/2 “ inner liner on all surfaces. As far as whether the guns in this video safe can be made service let, I feel a gunsmith can get most of them working again. The temperature in the safe never got to 460 degrees,. That is the temperature paper products ignite. Also the fact that the bag the pistol didn’t melt (polyester and nylon has a really low melting point). Finally, ammo didn’t cook off which it would at way less than 1200 degrees. The loose rounds as mentioned in some of the previous comments were correct. Probably hand-loaded with lord only know what. As far as the salvage crew, very sloppy. To properly cut the safe open you cut a shallow depth cut as you really don’t know the thickness of the metal nor the hardness make a series of shallow cuts until you break through. You aren’t in a hurry so take your time. They lucked out when they hit non-hardened steel or worse, two layer of steel separated by concrete. Regarding the extraction of the guns I cringed when they didn’t clear the guns first using their finger. Several of the guns had carbon on the chamber face that could easily hid a cartridge in the chamber. And has been pointed out, don’t lay the directly on the concrete floor. Put them on a movers quilt to keep the guns safe and pointing away from everyone ( they walked in front of the barrel at least once). Finally don’t handle the ammo like it’s normal. Powder exposed to high heat can become unstable as can the primers. Treat them like they could could cook off any minute. Put them in a steel ammo box and dispose of them. Sorry for the length of this comment. I got seriously “triggered” by their recklessness.
@mercedescarballo78613 жыл бұрын
Hey there brother, thanks for your feedback. I completely agree with your statement. May i ask what model safe you have ?
@jesuschristislord777333 жыл бұрын
@@mercedescarballo7861 yes, I too would like to know the model number so I can avoid it.
@ViktoriousDead3 жыл бұрын
Everybody is a safety officer on KZbin. Just shut up
@georgesakellaropoulos81622 жыл бұрын
The best way to dispose of the ammo is to soak it in oil for a week or so. You can then try pulling the bullets to recover the brass, but only for scrap.
@Cpt_Adama2 жыл бұрын
Yes they did have ammo cook off in that safe.
@AmmoC9M5 жыл бұрын
I've had to deal with insurance claims on firearms that were stored in safes. Learned many things along the way, like the fact that the temperature is hottest at the top of safes 90% of the time. The cheaper safes that use soft, open cell foam padding in the interior, vaporizes and turns into a gooey corrosive gas that coats stocks and metal, attacking the metal far worse than wood leaving uneven, deeply pitted areas on blued surfaces (stainless guns not as badly affected). If the guns are in the lower part of the safe, surprisingly most of the factory heat treatment & springs were found to be still in spec.. Some rifle barrels, closer to the muzzle end may become compromised (caution on the heat treated Stainless barrels - these may blow apart like a banana peel if high powered rounds are fired - if the barrel anneals in a fire - SS .22 long rifle barrels not so much of a concern). Sometimes the rubberized foam backing from interior carpeting will also create this corrosive goo, but to a lesser degree. I contacted several of the manufacturers like Fort Knox, Homak, Liberty, etc. to see if they were willing to offer custom build interiors with Nomex lining and additional temperature resistance features, but was disappointed that they were not willing to listen to me. Basically your so called fire rated safes are considered so because the mfg will use a special gasket that lines the door that in the event of a fire will swell and seal the door to some degree to help prevent water from the firefighters hose from getting in.... however, as you seen in this video, there are many weak areas that lifted in the rear of the safe and a corner that cracked which allowed the water vapor inside and mix with the corrosive gasses created by the carpet backing. Sorry for writing a book, but I thought I'd share what I thought to be important info to help others protect their valuable firearms.
@bigjohn8605 жыл бұрын
Safe placement in a home on lowest level of home will be less heat, basement will be the coolest place.
@AmmoC9M5 жыл бұрын
@@bigjohn860 Keep in mind the water that will be used to put out the fire may partially flood the basement. Maybe keep 1 to 1.5 feet off of basement floor, on a custom made steel frame support? Humidity level will be higher in basements as things cool down. Just something to keep in mind.
@JohnWayne-qx3je5 жыл бұрын
Most helpful comment I’ve ever read.
@stileshumphrey41955 жыл бұрын
AmmoC9M Best comment of the bunch!
@venger9105 жыл бұрын
@@AmmoC9M Cleaning off corrosion versus structural changes to the metal because of heat? I'd take the water any day. If any of my firearms are ever exposed to a top-to-bottom fire that totally destroys the structure, I would rather have them immersed completely in water for weeks and spend a bit of time cleaning them off than risk having them blow up in my face.
@ditzydoo43784 жыл бұрын
I've dealt with this issue a number of times while at Weatherby Inc. The Items in the safe don't necessarily "Burn" because of a lack of oxygen, but they do "Roast" as in like an oven. The rust is caused by the super heating which destroys the finish followed then cooling which causes condensation on the metal surfaces. Serviceability of all the firearms must be done by a qualified Gunsmith with access to at minimum a Rockwell hardness testing rig and a detailed listing of the items factory hardness's limits for it's parts. The super-heating effect will take the temper out of critical area's even though plastic and wood on the guns seems okay. Any gun should be sent to it's respective factory service center for evaluation only after contacting that centers service agent.
@colkilgore1003 жыл бұрын
Sounds like you know your stuff Ditz.Thanks for the quick analysis. It's very informative and right on the money.
@ditzydoo43783 жыл бұрын
@@colkilgore100 thank you for saying so. It always made me sad having to tell the client their rifle was now a door stop.
@ericcarbonell99273 жыл бұрын
Thanks. In other words a gun safe isn’t fire proof.
@ditzydoo43783 жыл бұрын
@@ericcarbonell9927 very few ever were. though I have seen some so ludicrously thick they could double as a fallout shelter.
@johnsheppard14763 жыл бұрын
@@ditzydoo4378 I remember in Russia we didn't care about most of such stuff-I generally did but was usually considered a picky safety geek.. Although in Canada where I live now and in USA where I am going to move I am always considered an absolute opposite but my friends would have been considered as bold to the point of insanity..I myself had registered three rifles in Russia that were found in relic condition and repaired by me and if you would have seen any of them-you wouldn't have touched it with a 20 meter pole let alone firing them but for me it was normal!Yet why I had been called a safety geek in Russia is because I ranted at people for using a really barbaric method of cleaning the rifles they found.. And I am not making this shit up: they just made a huge campfire, tossed all their findings in there and lit them up!And I literally remember a shit load of times I interrupted them when through the exposed holes made by corrosion through the magazine of a Mosin or Mauser rifle that was about to get lit up I just saw that there were rounds inside!And then I at least with help of a knife and a hammer popped the bottom plate on them, scraped out the follower with remainings of the spring and got the rounds out of them at least! Dozens of times did it yet every single time when on such a rifle the bolt was closed but the cocking piece still frozen cocked-they always fired from the heat of the fire!That is why at least as we were "roasting" their rifles-these rifles were pointed at the safe direction when the whole thing got lit!I didn't do that and so I was considered a safety geek! Who literally had been casually hunting for over a decade with a damn repaired(actually cleaned and refurbished but heavily pitted on the outside) and registered WW2 battlefield relic sniper Mosin rifle that has a damn up to 3mm or 0.1 inch deep pittings on outside and put thousands of full charge rounds through it over the years and cleaned it just twice! Still works by the way as perfectly and as accurately as it is supposed to even after 65-70 years being buried under the ground!
@sammorris9609 Жыл бұрын
Many years ago I was at a locksmith shop talking with a locksmith, when a person walked in off the street with a melted glob of a Sentry safe that you can buy at Home Depot. His house had just burnt down that weekend and he wanted the locksmith to open it up to see if some important papers were ok. I watched to locksmith get it open very quickly, and I saw that his important papers were still in perfect shape. Speaks well for little fire safes. I was impressed.
@myobmyob22159 ай бұрын
That IS helpful So many weird get ups out there just want a fire flood proof metal can for the most important stuff.
@tedbaxter52342 жыл бұрын
The insulation, concrete, drywall, what ever is employed has water content. As the safe gets hot, water vapor is released. The guns and various other metals will rust in the humidity and heat whether water is introduced from outside or not.
@joseywales82578 ай бұрын
My company, Kingsbery mfg, invented the metal gunsafe. A gunsafe is a barbecue pit for guns. When I bought the company in 2008, I played around with actually building a fire proof safe, it increased the price by 500% if you expected interior components from being destroyed. That unit in the video is sheet roll super thin steel, garbage. I can tell it had the garbage electronic key pad as well. To open that unit ALL you had to do was hit the 4 corners on top and the top would have sprung open, you can see where the heat split the mig welds already.
@randycooper16505 жыл бұрын
Worked closely with a gunsmith for 10 years. Seen this situation quite a few times. The rust is caused by an acid given off in the smoke not from water. If at all possible you need to get your firearms to someone who can completely disassemble and thoroughly clean as soon after a fire as safely possible.
@thatguy-art62292 жыл бұрын
SO YOU HAVE NO REAL EXPERIENCE OR USEFUL KNOWLEDGE.
@wbuttry14 жыл бұрын
As a firefighter for a number of years, the only way to save your personal papers is to have them in a different place not at home usually a safety deposit box and also keep copies of everything paper wise cause once a fire starts the smoke will ruin paper first cause of the sueitt from the under burning process. And as you know the water will get into the most tightest places. watertight stuff is a myth especially in a fire metal expands in heat and concrete cracks in heat. So as soon as the water is introduced to the equation instant leaks.
@johnq.public5911 Жыл бұрын
Yep, put your valuables in a "safe deposit box". That way the GOVERNMENT and/or BANK can access your valuables any time they want. This HAS HAPPENED before, and with the THIEVES in government going PAST their AUTHORITY, they will do it again!!!!
@craigpennington1251 Жыл бұрын
@@johnq.public5911 I'd have to have the whole floor for all the paperwork. And it keeps building every day.
@darrinrentruc6614 Жыл бұрын
@@johnq.public5911 Thieves liars and scoundrels, Sadly I have come to realize that our government is more corrupt than the mob ever was, That our government is more racist than the Klan ever was, And since our government is responsible for murdering over 100 million unborn children, Dropping atomic bombs on civilians, Provide weapons of mass destruction to many other countries, we are far more deadly than the nazis ever could have dreamed to be. We have allowed our Republic to be governed by men with no virtues. We were warned of this by our founders. Now what
@martysemmes78385 жыл бұрын
This person should never be allowed to use a camera again.
@briansullivan19275 жыл бұрын
im seasick just from watching this video...lol
@BlackarrowMr5 жыл бұрын
Yep ! like a lil kid !
@gabrielstrong21865 жыл бұрын
Yeah, he should have his license revoked
@TheMentch1715 жыл бұрын
This guys running the saw should never be allowed to run one again. Holy shit dude!
@ICOWBOYIM5 жыл бұрын
😰I'm so dizzy watching this video I'm going to puke🥵...💩💩💩
@Gunpaw1958 Жыл бұрын
In my experience, we had a house fire that was a total loss. All the rifles/shotguns in the safe were beyond repair. The pistols in a night stand and a .410 shotgun in the closet all survived with only minimal cosmetic damage. Most of the time it's about where they are in regards to the fire and how long they were exposed.
@edarmstrong93895 жыл бұрын
The Three Stooges open a Gun safe.
@headshotsongs94655 жыл бұрын
Hey Moe, hey Larry!
@hhasfjord69975 жыл бұрын
I have opened 1000's of safes. For this safe in this condition they used the best solution.
@Bowfinger63834 жыл бұрын
" Oh!? A wise guy huh?" Nuck nuck nuck"
@rickymcmillan2204 жыл бұрын
Wow I actually heard the guy say. A couple of these are salvageable. What some idiots! They evidently know nothing of guns! They all need a good cleaning!
@johnwyatt92634 жыл бұрын
@@rickymcmillan220 yep
@chopinbloc5 жыл бұрын
Half a million views. Imagine what this video could have done if it wasn't a sideways vertical video. How do you even manage that?
I started thinking "Why is it that most dumbasses with a camera think it's cool to shoot a video like this instead of horizontal"? LMAO
@srdavis374 жыл бұрын
I made it to 3:17 before I felt the first twinge of nausea. Had to skip to the end.
@saddletrampsminger98733 жыл бұрын
What about the gun they did not take out on the left side of picture
@kenmeinken81154 жыл бұрын
We had a safe in similar condition from a fire. Called the manufacturer and they recommended cutting a 10"x10" area above the dial. It took a few minutes with a battery operated angle grinder. Reached in and operated the mechanism and opened the door. Similar condition to what was in the safe here. A few guns were very rusted, a few looked in pretty good shape.
@johngordey3305 Жыл бұрын
Had a fire and a safe with about 10 firearms in it, house burned. The house was built about 100 years prior to the fire, made from heart pine, burned basically to the ground. Very hot fire for over an hour. I called Cannon safe, the brand I had about 48 hours after, was told to get the firearms out as soon as possible, the carbon steel firearms were very rusty but truly not damaged otherwise. I had one scope that had sucked moisture in when it cooled and a few plastic items in the top of the safe that were damaged from the heat, but glad I had the safe. Main point from me is get your firearms out as quickly as you can and clean and oil them.
@marksligar91525 жыл бұрын
I recondition guns all the time that have been in fires. Most of the time if the gun has not been in direct contact with the fire you are good to go. House fires also produce toxic chemical smoke which is acidic and will cause rust without being exposed to water, also when the fire dept. puts water on the fire it creates steam which can travel through the air and finds its way into the cracks in the safe. The safe will have 2 ratings...1 is temperature 2 is how long it is exposed to that temperature such as 1400 degrees for 30 min. Typical house fire, if i am not mistaken burns at 1200 degrees for 30 or 45 minutes. I trick I was taught is to put 3 to 4 (whichever fit) 5 gallon jugs of water on top of the safe, as the fire buns and melts the jugs it will release water that will run down the safe cooling it enough to extend the time exposed to the fire.....hopefully I will never have to find out if it really works. Be Blessed Mark Sligar
@mysticarsenal5 жыл бұрын
Mark Sligar of course the buckets of water WILL NOT WORK. by the time the water gets to the point it’ll start melting the buckets the safe has already been cooking too long. You’re only adding more steam to the environment. Build a camp fire fill a styrofoam cup with water set it in the fire and you’ll see it will not melt until water evaporates or gets hot enough to melt it. I also disagree that any water got in that safe, the cardboard ammo boxes didn’t even show any signs of water damage or absorption.
@allenfisher99855 жыл бұрын
When my home burnt the fire marshal said that it was way over 2000 degrees but it was an old two story farm house that some assholes burnt when I was gone
@appalachiangunman95895 жыл бұрын
allen fisher a lot of the old house around where I live are over 100 years old and there was a lot of oak used to build them, so when they burn they burn hot and for a long time, seasoned oak makes great firewood.
@colostomybag93675 жыл бұрын
that is a genius tip, will be picking up some buckets
@coryszeman85725 жыл бұрын
Had it happen now I would use steel stud wall around the safe with the cement backer boards used around fireplaces then either sheetrock or steel siding panels. You can also get kiln insulation and firebrick for extreme temps. I did notice thick books or stacks of magazines only had outsides chared so a small pistol in a dictionary would probably work too lol
@rwsmith76384 жыл бұрын
It's not just rated temperature, it's the amount of time the safe is exposed as well. If the whole house burned around it it was in there a pretty long time on full heat. I think the safe did very well. A fire that was put out before it stayed on the safe too long, the guns would be in good shape. You can't expect miracles, unless you pay for them.
@rwsmith76384 жыл бұрын
And you know, I was getting a little seasick trying to watch it.
@richd5897 Жыл бұрын
❤
@TheSerpentEagle Жыл бұрын
I thought about buying miracles just never thought I could really buy them.
@frankplummer5084 Жыл бұрын
I would not be afraid of firing any of those guns after a good cleaning . It wasn’t hot enough to even stain those ammo boxes on the top shelf.
@darrinrentruc6614 Жыл бұрын
@@frankplummer5084 Agree
@sidviscous59595 жыл бұрын
the smartest comment anybody made was that it was the water used to put out the fire that really caused the damage to the firearms.
@hoosiered4715 жыл бұрын
@Sid Viscous: Very true. In fact, the narrator makes a point about that, but my question is: how can a person with a gun safe help decrease the chance of water damage? You can't tell the fire department to stop putting the fire out.
@VICHYATT5 жыл бұрын
@@hoosiered471 Fire department will douse a gun safe if they see one in a fire. Hi pressure water penetrates the door seals and makes your safe a sauna. When I was moonlighting at a gun shop, I asked firemen about gun safes in a fire. They say they were taught to spray them for fear of blowing up like propane tanks.
@nattybushdoctor90215 жыл бұрын
@@VICHYATT nice.
@MussaKZN5 жыл бұрын
The fireproofing material has such a high moisture content when it heats up that gun safe turns into a steamer the rust isn’t from the firefighters water!!!
@jasonlarsen57394 жыл бұрын
Dumb...
@1800imawake Жыл бұрын
Great Video. Was just here after hearing a testimony of a Lahaina survivor and was wondering what happens to weapons in a gun safe after a fire. The only thing left in his safe was ash and barrels. Your video answered my questions.
@Scootertin4 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed turning my head for almost 20 minutes
@dicedtheice82984 жыл бұрын
Good neck excercise
@genevievehowson96514 жыл бұрын
65
@j.m.youngquist4193 жыл бұрын
What ?
@gregmcintosh2323 жыл бұрын
Omg. Came here to comment how the camera man should have been put down for terrible use of a phone. But you beat me to it.
@armedrebellion473 жыл бұрын
Lol
@joecat1015 жыл бұрын
When doing this every chamber needs to be opened on first contact and locked open if possible. Safety first.
@Just_a_Proud_Dad4 жыл бұрын
Things you probably shouldn’t do.. *Reads serial number while filming it, then posts to internet.
@mrmikesgunrack4 жыл бұрын
My Wife's Best Friend what do you think could happen with a serial number?
@PeterJames1434 жыл бұрын
the gun is probably on its way to a junkyard anyway
@73powerstroke564 жыл бұрын
Cuz if the bad guys make illegal parts for guns and say they are making their own .40 barrel then they could use ur serial number and if the bad guys gun gets ran then it will come back as u were the purchaser of that gun. It's a liability thing. Would u let a random person have ur social security number? It's just a number and everyone already has one so what would hurt someone knowing it's? Same concept but for something totally different.
@duMaurier154 жыл бұрын
@ElChivo 105 your credit card and SSN are just numbers too.. who cares if a random person has it. Ignorant dumb people these days.
@diver1654 жыл бұрын
Who cares? Most states don't register guns. The ATF does not. They record the serial number and FFL dealer. It is the FFL dealer's responsibility to record who they sold the gun to. The ATF will go right to the FFL if needed. And then all this is meaningless if the gun is sold privately. The best thing a serial number will tell you is if it was involved in a crime or the gun is stolen. After that, it's pure WGAF.
@cowboy7x Жыл бұрын
The 7mm cooked off because of the kind of propellant that the manufacture used. It just happened to be more susceptible to the heat. With fire fighters in the family, I can tell you that NO safe is good protection against fire if the safe is directly at ground zero. (And sometimes the whole house/home/business can be "ground zero".
@chevymarineretired5 жыл бұрын
Didn’t get hot enough to hurt the wood what makes you think the guns are bad. There all still good.
@imfree85004 жыл бұрын
Lol sand paper And surcoat
@Lenmorey4 жыл бұрын
Just need to be replied and cleaned and lubed and your golden
@glasslabwaldo3034 жыл бұрын
@Franklin Rosario if you listened the guy got in legal trouble having to forfeit the safe....
@creekboy28935 жыл бұрын
I think the material referred too as concrete is actually vermiculite. It is supposed to release steam during the fire for so long keeping the contents of the safe at 212 f. Once it releases all its moisture though the inside temp will rise. That is why fire safes have a time rating.
@theav8rs455 жыл бұрын
Hey Creek! Thanks for the comment! Another person sent me a message that one would have had to have gotten the guns out right away and re heat tested them or they would have kept rusting. Good to hear from you!
@timedvrodlehnen84485 жыл бұрын
Not vermiculite, its concrete. Dikky
@PiezPiedPy5 жыл бұрын
@@timedvrodlehnen8448 Concrete ? lol
@chadharrelson28805 жыл бұрын
@@timedvrodlehnen8448 drywall
@michealshaffer62233 жыл бұрын
I'm putting my safe inside a safe surrounded by fire brick. If you notice chimneys are the only thing leftover after a house is burnt to the ground.
@richardhill87973 жыл бұрын
Takes a lotta heat.to melt a ceramic. Way more than can be produced naturally. Detroit and others looked into ceramic engines for a minute. Rich/San Jose
@mikenonia17633 жыл бұрын
The damage you see isn't from heat, it's water. Firefighters flooded the house. Had he opened the safe right away, dried and oiled the weapons they would all be fine.
@rangersmith46523 жыл бұрын
The heat of a house fire leaves the chimney brick, sure. But if a house burns down while there are logs set in the fireplace, those logs will burn as well.
@rangersmith46523 жыл бұрын
@@mikenonia1763 Yes, it's water damage, but not from the firemen's hoses. The rust is from condensation upon cooling. There is a seal around the door that melts into place when heated and protects from water and smoke intrusion for about as long as the rest of the safe protects against heat. Whatever humidity control may have been in the safe was quickly destroyed by the fire's heat, as was any light coating of oil or preservative on the steel. When everything cooled, moisture in the air got through the now destroyed seal and condensed on the steel, and that's all it takes to get rust. If the safe had been flooded, all that insulation and other debris--which as we see is very dry and brittle--would have been a moldy, muddy mass.
@annalorree Жыл бұрын
Safes are designed to be inset, not free-standing. The door is robust because that is the only side meant to face attack. The sides, back, and top are usually an inner and outer layer of mild steel with what is basically sheetrock sandwiched between them. That is intended as insulation, only. The bottom of the safe is most likely a single layer of mild steel. After my 23 year career in fire suppression, I can tell you that safes generally preserve what is inside from fire well enough to allow an insurance settlement that accurately accounts for those items. Documents and cash in a safe should be in sealed plastic bags, and stored at floor level, where it is the coolest.
@westvirginiahellbilly81245 жыл бұрын
Those guns are in fine shape , clean the hell out of them , test em’ out , and have fun ! Do not junk good shooting iron !
@markgoostree63344 жыл бұрын
A good disassembly, clean up and replace the springs...heat probably killed the springs...you now have some that look like war guns!!
@stonebay21113 жыл бұрын
If it didn't melt plastic then the springs are fine
@OpenCarryUSMCАй бұрын
Absolutely NOT No way to safely put those weapons back in use without a complete disassembly and spec testing if all critical components. In particular the bolt, breech, and barrel (because that’s where all the pressure is when it go boom). If parts other than those fail it could mean a NEGLIGENT discharge due to a failed component in the safety or firing train. Negligent because a full tear down and spec check wasn’t done. No one is capable of looking at a firearm that’s been in a fire and determining that it’s safe without disassembly, inspection, and determination of serviceability.
@1990notch4 жыл бұрын
I think the way these residential security containers work is they are lined inside with gypsum board, and the gypsum board retains enough moisture that gets released as steam in the safe to keep the content cooler than the fire. If you leave them in the safe after the fire, they will rust pretty quickly.
@georgelewis9127 Жыл бұрын
When powdered Portland cement is mixed with water it hydrates and becomes hardened Portland cement releasing heat as it hydrates. When exposed to high heat, it absorbs heat as it releases the water of hydration, as it loses its structure and returns to its powdered form. That is exactly what it is designed to do, and that is how it is able to meet the standards for a fire rating. The water released caused the guns to rust. A safe like this must be opened immediately after the fire to save any of the contents. Powdered gypsum, when mixed with water, similarly hydrates to form gypsum plaster and when heated absorbs the heat while releasing water vapor and returning to powdered gypsum.
@pauls.76 Жыл бұрын
Exactly what happened with mine, removed them, cleaned and oiled them right away and saved every one.
@bmug-u2g5 жыл бұрын
Definition of a safe - it keeps thing inside safe from -what ever the safe is designed for- once the safe is breached all safety is off. A Pelican gun case is a safe to protect from water damage unless it’s not closed. That safe kept what was in it safe from fire until the fire exceeded the time/temperature rating or it fell through the floor and got split open. The guns need some TLC and are probably fine.
@arenalife4 жыл бұрын
"That guns in perfect shape" - immediately drops and scratches gun
@SteveReynold4 жыл бұрын
They’re in the claim
@billymilam4 жыл бұрын
Oh no. Guns no good. Just scap metal. I'll give 20 dollars apiece. Okay?
@greghumble73063 жыл бұрын
As soon as he said perfect shape and dropped it I said “was” out loud
@hidingposer34223 жыл бұрын
They would have been in a little better shape if they didn't immediately slam the safe on it's back to open it.
@thomaskolditz42935 жыл бұрын
My wife said, "Do you know how mad I would be if my whole house burned down and the only things left were your fu@&ing guns?"
@chopinbloc5 жыл бұрын
Wait, you aren't using that safe for jewelry, documents, precious metals, and photos along with the guns?
@thomaskolditz42935 жыл бұрын
The Chopping Block not really. The only paper in there is the ATF paperwork for my suppressor. She really hates that accessory!
@chopinbloc5 жыл бұрын
@@thomaskolditz4293 I'll never understand why men marry women who vehemently despise something important to the man or who believe it's any of their business what he likes. And I'll never understand a man who doesn't share everything he owns. There should be plenty of room in your safe for important documents, an external HDD backup, jewelery, precious metals, photos, and other valuables. If there isn't room for those things then there isn't room for the next guns you are going to buy and you need a bigger safe.
@thomaskolditz42935 жыл бұрын
The Chopping Block I think there is probably a lot you don’t understand-especially independent women and confident men who ignore your unsolicited opinions.
@chopinbloc5 жыл бұрын
@@thomaskolditz4293 lol. You spelled "cuck" wrong.
@de34815 жыл бұрын
Gotta love how they're opening a salvaged safe pulling out shotguns and rifles with magazines in them without checking the chambers on every gun. Checking a pistol here and a .22 there won't keep you from getting shot!
@Nate-cw7of5 жыл бұрын
Alright sally, guns just don't go off libtard
@Megalodon605 жыл бұрын
Watching the vid, they were being very careful, and my guess is most of the guns like the one rifle are siezed up and need worked on and cleaned one by one to even be operational. Looks like they'll take great care and be safe doing it.
@MW-xv1sj5 жыл бұрын
@@skeeskeeter6994 So you are admitting that you failed to properly secure your weapon thus causing a discharge. Way to go genius.
@de34815 жыл бұрын
@@Nate-cw7of Libtard my fat ass! Guns are mechanical devices and those particular mechanical devices were burned up in a fire, potentially warping/weakening the actions and/or destabilizing the chemistry of the powder charge and primer. Just jostling them around can cause a discharge with a round in the chamber, bright boy. The actions can be opened carefully while not exposing themselves to the breach and pointing them in a safe direction to make sure the chambers are clear. They muzzled the camera guy numerous times while he was filming.
@de34815 жыл бұрын
@@Megalodon60 Every other action they checked opened with no problem. Care and safety weren't present in this video.
@nunyabidness9257 Жыл бұрын
I had a fire, we had two gun safes in the house. The larger more expensive one was a Winchester fire rated safe on the first floor. It got hot enough to damage the keypad on the front but most of the items in that room were just smoke damaged. The other was a a cheap “safe” that was more like a gun locker in the basement. That safe was fine despite every other gun in the house that was out of the safes looked like a boat anchor from the chemicals in the smoke/water within an hour of the fire being put out. The guns in the “fireproof” Winchester safe? No heat damage, but every weapon in that safe was destroyed by rust because it took 10 days to get a new electronic faceplate from the manufacturer (IIRC, Canon safes rebranded to Winchester). Guns that were in my wife’s family back to the Depression were absolutely ruined. Guys, here is a pro-tip: If you ever have a fire, GET A PUBLIC ADJUSTER AND DO NOT SIGN ANYTHING UNTIL YOU HAVE HIRED ONE. Don’t even call your insurance company first. Seriously, fires cost hundreds of thousands of dollars and it’s not like dealing with your agent over your wife’s fender bender…. You wouldn’t go to court without a lawyer, don’t go thru a fire claim without a public adjuster! I didn’t know what one was until my fire and a year and a half later I am almost back into our house-i would have had a completely different experience had I not hired a PA and I would have had everything i had coming to me taken by corrupt restoration companies. I even had to get the state attorney general involved in some if it….. GET A FUCKING Public Adjuster!
@larrykeene47335 жыл бұрын
i know who I will NEVER be flying with!!! If this guy flies like he videos it's a wonder he's still alive.
@erm42925 жыл бұрын
I would not even be a passenger his car
@nolimitarcade28655 жыл бұрын
Would have been nice if you had pulled out a folding table and removed the firearms one at a time without flagging the cameraman and actually cleared each firearm as you safely removed them, one at a time.
@ShootnTexasStyle4 жыл бұрын
My rifles were in a flood and under water for two weeks. Took them, striped them, cleaned and they were fine. I had two old mosins that turned the stocks a little white but oiled them up and cleaned the barrels by shooting them. My ARs the barrels went black inside but overall they were fine. Wife's snub-nosed is alum/stainless and water had no effect on it. I still have them
@drjprice Жыл бұрын
Bury the Ammo in a very deep hole. It will be safe and cause no harm.
@markarcher24414 жыл бұрын
What happened to clearing a gun immediately when you get it?
@edsmith95513 жыл бұрын
i know right
@calholli3 жыл бұрын
@@bidenisdog8294 Who watches videos on their phone? lol
@mma1st1053 жыл бұрын
@@calholli Everyone.
@Naj2jacked3 жыл бұрын
@@calholli everyone fud
@mdunbar0085 жыл бұрын
It would help to know make and model of the safe because not all 1200 degree "fire rated safes" are the same. This one did really well, others I have opened at house fires there was nothing left, just some charred metal. FYI, if you ask the fire department nicely, they can open your gun safe with the "jaws of life" that's what we do.
@Mulching_man2 жыл бұрын
I personally don’t buy “box store” safes. Such as basspro, Walmart, tractor supply etc. I research and buy quality safes. Look at reviews, warranties, and the overall company. Fort Knox safes, rhino, American safe company, Stewart’s safes, and such are of excellent quality and most are backed by an amazing warranty. I personally have a Rhino and a Stewart’s. Both are backed by a 1 million dollar warranty on contents ( from smoke and fire damage). Both have a 2500 degree 145 minute rating. Now they are quality safes and quality costs money. When you have $100,000’s worth of stuff in each safe, you want it protected in my opinion and spending $5000-7000 on a quality safe is just an afterthought at that point in my opinion. Also all the companies I listed, will come, get your belongings out of the safe for you, and also give you a brand new safe. It’s a 1 time purchase that will last a lifetime. Have forbid that anyone has to go through a house fire. If they do though, it’s good to have a quality safe. Again my opinion. I also understand not everyone can afford a $5000+ safe.
@billymilam4 жыл бұрын
I'll give 15 dollars for each and every one of those "useless" guns.
@mattsmith14564 жыл бұрын
I'd give £10,000 for them in UK. One would sell for that on street here
@UpcomingJedi4 жыл бұрын
Ill give a trumpet for the whole lot. Maybe a school math book.
@mattsmith14564 жыл бұрын
Because that makes sense
@curiousentertainment30084 жыл бұрын
@@mattsmith1456 I’ve got 100 unregistered butter knives how much would they sell?
@jizzmonkey96794 жыл бұрын
@@mattsmith1456 it really wouldn't
@shanesells5742 Жыл бұрын
The damage was done by not opening it after the fire and cleaning the guns. Instead it was left for months and the guns rusted.
@borba2043 жыл бұрын
This is like watching the 3 stoges.🤣
@iac43573 жыл бұрын
Stooges.
@jmw19832095 жыл бұрын
If you have a big enough safe you can put all your documents and papers inside a small document fier safe/ lock box inside the bigger safe A safe in a safe
@eastongentry67645 жыл бұрын
Justin Walker I have that, I have a fireproof rifle safe with a fireproof century safe with a fireproof cashbox and a fire retardant cash bag in it
@Kernalpanik5 жыл бұрын
Nothing and i mean nothing is heat resistant may keep it from contact with the flame but heat is a gas and still seeps through the cracks as you can see in the video depending on how long the fire burns for odds are it will be ruined like this one
@Kernalpanik5 жыл бұрын
Once that giant toaster reaches a certain temp all that ammo turns into a firework display
@plantbasedprepper5 жыл бұрын
What about a safe with automatic sprinklers :)
@jeffwilcox99875 жыл бұрын
@@eastongentry6764 Ditto.
@michaelnash10674 жыл бұрын
As a pilot you must have thought cameras are able to operate in 3 dimensions ✈. Had to turn it into a radio program. My neck was killing me...😜. Was a great distraction while grounded for the day. Any chance of a follow up with the guns? ... and have you planned a video for your thoughts on keeping your guns safe? Mine are in a shelter under the front steps of my house.... all concrete and helps with tornadoes as well (Missour).
@geralddorsett607 Жыл бұрын
Two things that come to mind: 1. location of a safe is very important. Having one on the main floor of a home, especially a home with a basement seems less than ideal. Locating the safe in a corner in a basement, would be more ideal, especially with a home fire that does not completely destroy a home. 2. For valuable papers, placing them inside a fire resistant box, that is inside a fire resistant safe would offer more protection, than papers simply left in a safe.
@justsmy5677 Жыл бұрын
You also have to consider that the basement might fill partially up with standing water from the fire department or rain. A homeowner may not be able to remove the safe for an extended period of time due to several factors such as, fire under investigation, Insurance company prohibits access until house surveyed, basement too dangerous for a safe mover to get in there and remove, lack of equipment to lift/move safe or you are in the hospital!
@fujinwinds25145 жыл бұрын
Gotta love the guy putting his finger on the trigger of the gun while picking it up
@dalemaloney2555 жыл бұрын
thats where YOU are supposed to put your finger!! its a finger guard!! did you NOT learn that??? hahaha...
@fujinwinds25145 жыл бұрын
@@dalemaloney255 #FingerGaurd
@commiesnzombies5 жыл бұрын
reminds me of fbi special agent "back flip"
@thefutureisgrim93915 жыл бұрын
Gun safety police checked in probly a lib obummer vagina
@sldrboy91155 жыл бұрын
🤦🏽♂️
@charleschunky044 жыл бұрын
This had to be filmed some where in California.
@HamrickFamilyFarmWV4 жыл бұрын
FAN- TAC no ways look at the pistol grips that’s not allowed in California
@enichols824 жыл бұрын
@@HamrickFamilyFarmWV you're both wrong and right. That went into law not long ago for one. Second you can still have a pistol grip on your rifles as long as other features are implemented or taken off
@HamrickFamilyFarmWV4 жыл бұрын
newagetojo then you haven’t seen many ar’s look up featureless rifles.
@Frankie2012channel4 жыл бұрын
@@HamrickFamilyFarmWV You don't know shit. The featureless thing, That's NEW rifles. What do you think us Californians have been buying for the last 30 years??? California has ALWAYS grandfathered in their 'assault rifles' whenever they ban a new set. I have tons of pistol gripped rifles that I LEGALLY bought BEFORE the bans (and registered them) I still have my guns I bought before the 89 ban, the 99 ban and the 2014 ban. The Dept of Justice of the state of California estimated that there are hundreds of thousands of LEGAL pistol gripped detachable magazine loading scary rifles in the state NOW. Just because some NOOB can't buy them this instant doesn't mean that there are not thousands of legal AR rifles (and other types as well) in safes all over the state.
@jimbayler42774 жыл бұрын
We'll forgive you for trying to stir up Tribalistic rivalry, but only because you don't know any better. Good job doing Russia's work for them. Divide and conquer. Harp on the differences and not our strengths. Putin loves your kind of talk.
@robertnegri68073 жыл бұрын
To my knowledge the fire rating on safes using the "cement" (I haven't a clue what that fire retardant stuff is) fire retardant looses its viability over the years. The smaller safes I opened without a key or combination in the past the "cement" is enclosed in a plastic bag. The "cement" is pliable and has condensation inside the bag. So with age the small amount liquid evaporates. The exploding ammo probably imported. They aren't very good with tolerances when seating the bullets or primers. A few errant smoke less powder and its fireworks with a kick.
@jamesmartin7282 Жыл бұрын
The fact that some ammo cooked off is proof that the safe did NOT protect the contents from fire. You could beef up fire protection by building a wall of brick (refractory kind is better) around, under and over the safe.
@humans4targets25 жыл бұрын
Worst camera work ever “let me get a close up of that AR-15.. swings the camera over it as fast as he can and can’t see squat
@brit10665 жыл бұрын
It’s a GODDAMNED GUN, haven’t you ever seen one before? You should have the USA HAS MORE GUNS THAN THE REST OF THE WORLD COMBINED.
@Jeff-zs5hd5 жыл бұрын
@@brit1066 "liberal troll suspect"
@TSPhotoAtlanta5 жыл бұрын
Watchingthis to see the effect of fire on the ‘protected’ objects. Poor camera work makes the visuals a Waste.Of.Time!
@brit10664 жыл бұрын
Grim Reaper Yes that is a good thing, because in the rest of the developed world the chances of being attacked with a gun is A TINY FRACTION OF THE CHANCES OF BEING SHOT IN THE USA. Prevention is FAR BETTER THAN BEING SHOT. Please, please, please ANSWER THIS SIMPLE QUESTION. IF GUNS MAKE US SAFE, OR SAFER, THEN WITH MORE GUNS IN THE USA THAN THE REST OF THE WORLD COMBINED WHY IS THE USA THE MOST DANGEROUS COUNTRY, BY FAR. Please don’t be stupid and say that gun violence is worse in Brazil or Nigeria or Somalia. Compare the USA with like countries. VASTLY MORE PEOPLE DIE FROM GUNS IN THE USA THAN ANY OTHER COMPARABLE COUNTRY. Why is this when we have SO MANY GUNS. More and more guns DOES NOT WORK, you are being lied to by the NRA AND THE GUN INDUSTRY.
@MrTruckerf5 жыл бұрын
I would be happy to take everything. If the metal hasn't warped, the springs are still good, the wood hasn't burnt, the plastic hasn't melted, the scopes haven't popped, etc., then they are OK. To get hot enough to untemper the metal will freeze the action. Small stuff like springs are the first metal things to go. There are a few more things to check but these guns are fine. I have worked on more than a few and they are usually worse than these.
@NNITRED5 жыл бұрын
Tell the owner he lost everything before taking everything to a gunsmith.
@cw67954 жыл бұрын
I think he had the camera mounted on a fidget spinner.
@robertwerner8978 Жыл бұрын
Wow! found myself watching this on my cellphone until I realized my head was upside down... After seeing the train wreck with the saw, I couldn't stop the video. Very interesting, but stick to flying, please!
@Sootmaker5 жыл бұрын
Always interesting watching clowns on KZbin who have no clue.
@thegamepotato19125 жыл бұрын
ikr lmao
@kennethcurtis18565 жыл бұрын
Like reading their coments more.
@ekraszewski4 жыл бұрын
Your first tip-off is when they called it a fireproof safe. There ain’t no such thing.
@duMaurier154 жыл бұрын
Always interesting reading comments from clowns calling other people clowns.. The only knowledge you losers have are video games..
@martinsonofwar3954 жыл бұрын
Same with What The Hale. They are tards too.
@rolflews5 жыл бұрын
Is there any top or bottom to this video? Let's just wave the camera all over the place
@H433395 жыл бұрын
No kidding I was thinking the same thing, Bad camera work.
@valrojas54375 жыл бұрын
Hahaha!!
@gone5475 жыл бұрын
He was probably all shook up at the sight of those nasty guns.
@campnut60765 жыл бұрын
All "fireproof"safe are rated for a time limit. There are exceptions but most under $1500 are only rated for an hour. 2 hour safes cost more and so on.
@edwardprice140 Жыл бұрын
Obviously , you should wrap you guns in Winchester ammo boxes.
@lukeharris33203 жыл бұрын
I actually feel pissed off after watching most of this.
@douglasgault54583 жыл бұрын
I've been thru a house fire &it's a heart breaking experience. I was lucky to have my firearms survive. But it was the loss of over 15,000 rds of ammunition that really hurt me.
@markp5762 Жыл бұрын
@douglasgault5458 Did you inform the firefighters about the ammo in the dwelling? If so, did they balk or were hesatent to go in due to a possible "cook-off"? Was the ammo in a gunsafe or open to the elements? I have around 10,000 rds. in my bedroom closet open to the elements of a house fire. Just trying to be pro-active and seeking info, if disaster stkikes. Thanks for a reply bro.
@AGumptionProduction5 жыл бұрын
Amateur camera person really takes away from this video
@johnharlock40985 жыл бұрын
Blair witch like.
@michaelp.1395 жыл бұрын
Couldn't agree more. Very irritating
@archstanton70355 жыл бұрын
And amateur gun handlers.
@carmichaelmoritz86625 жыл бұрын
@william cleveland maybe it was a test . recovered crime firearms put in a fire proof safe to see results . maybe a crime scene or maybe actually a true accident . i found that most youtubers fake the truth of the video . just saying .
@ironmyno5 жыл бұрын
Drove. me. nuts.
@Bill_N_ATX Жыл бұрын
I had guns in a safe that was in a house burned in a wildfire. In other words, it was superheated for hours. The ammo cooked off, the plastics melted, and none of the guns were usuable. In fact, in the entire house the only reusable item was a cast iron skillet and even it was warped.
@16sondra4 жыл бұрын
Pistol was in great shape until you dropped it. Lol.
@Mweedy4203 жыл бұрын
Lmao that's exactly what I said to myself 😂
@q7wasp75 жыл бұрын
It's a camera - not a paint brush. I'm dizzy now.
@77Avadon775 жыл бұрын
I know with this camera like hanging off of his dick or something I don't understand the perspective or what you're trying to accomplish in this filming
@ronsorrentino62075 жыл бұрын
q7wasp7 I sure as hell hope he doesn’t fly like he videos? LMFAO
@valrojas54375 жыл бұрын
Hahaha!!
@Bowfinger63834 жыл бұрын
The cameraman is a stunt pilot, you can tell by the way he keeps doing inverted S's while flying the camera
@dixiebushcraft5 жыл бұрын
Those firearms are completely salvageable. Good cleaning and minor parts/gunsmith work and they would be good to go.
@kbarnhart8400 Жыл бұрын
Shotgun is O/U Browning Superposed probably Belgium made one. 12 ga.
@timothyantoine9145 жыл бұрын
Don't let the Camera guy shoot any of the guns , he'll point in wrong direction .
@steveo57635 жыл бұрын
Ralphie was the one with the camera. He had already shot 1 eye out.
@alanlaughter5 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@onlygod56674 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣
@inhawaii49414 жыл бұрын
None of them should
@CTcuttinUp4 жыл бұрын
This was the funniest comment! I laughed out loud literally
@topturretgunner Жыл бұрын
Dude. Get a chalk line and snap it. Follow a straight cut line and then your blade won’t bind up on you.
@waynemorgan57335 жыл бұрын
Like to see a video on restoration of a gun that's been in a fire.
@MrCountrycuz5 жыл бұрын
Wayne Morgan there is no restoration
@nicklister68945 жыл бұрын
You can restore a gun that's been in a fire takes time and depends on how much heat the metal took
@jeffscuderi86625 жыл бұрын
Been done before some are beyond salvage depends on heat level temper.They look like new redone.
@Jeff-zs5hd5 жыл бұрын
@@nicklister6894 here's the thing. There's absolutely no way of knowing what temperatures and how long said guns sat burning. Also one must consider the fact the may have been cooled rapidly by the fire Dept. Using water. If that safe and guns reached extreme heat then blasted with cool water you will have warpage. There's no way you wouldn't. Especially like AR rifles made of thin aluminum uppers and lowers. Not too mention all the springs and internals. Just asking for an accident. All these guns wouldn't be worth the expense to "properly restore". The cost would be alot. You could probably buy two for the price of a complete restore. As always remember gun safety 101...
@mechag94885 жыл бұрын
In this case, there was plastic and paper that survived in the safe which generally melts and burns before steel is greatly affected. Mostly likely, the steel barrels and receivers are okay. Barrels can be replaced anyway. One might replace plastic parts and look at replacing springs. I would guess all of them could be detail stripped and cleaned and put back in shape. Some might not be worth the effort. It would be an interesting project. Paying someone else to do all that clean up work might not be worth it.
@lonebikeroftheapocalypse95275 жыл бұрын
Put the camera operator in the safe and try another house fire.
@tobysomerville33695 жыл бұрын
My house burned down in October.....guns were in a cabinet.....more damage from the corrosive detergents in the extinguishing foam...
@Scalia-ig6qz4 жыл бұрын
Lol
@DimepieceCustomWorks4 жыл бұрын
For real lmao😂😂😂 I'm fuckin dead. This comment 😂😂💀☠️
@weltraumaffe4155 Жыл бұрын
I've read many times that most gun safes only have thick doors and can be sawed through. I had no idea that it would be this easy with the right saw. That saw could cut through some armored vehicles with less than 1" steel.
@tvsteve23 жыл бұрын
As a retired firefighter a room in a normal home reaches 1800- 2000 degrees in a few minutes when flashover occurs
@brianduran91455 жыл бұрын
Y’all could give me all of those non salvageable guns for a pretty low price cause they can’t be saved... I’ll give you 200 for all of them...
@josephmclennan12295 жыл бұрын
I'll give me 225.00 . Lol
@pjo19645 жыл бұрын
$230.
@CTcuttinUp4 жыл бұрын
$250 but not a penny more. I’m really going to be biting the bullet so to speak.
@Secretfiles9994 жыл бұрын
@@CTcuttinUp hah. I’ll up it at 300!
@samuelcowan70294 жыл бұрын
350$
@bobsradio60254 жыл бұрын
I was surprised at how easy it was to cut into the safe back at their shop. That's why my gun safe is bolted to the wall and the cement floor. This reminds me of something I heard about car thieves when I lived in NYC. The main tools they would use were a flat bed truck and a fork lift. They would cruise down the street looking for the type of car they wanted. When they found the car, they would use the fork lift to pick it up and put it on their flat bed truck. Then they could take it back to their shop and have all the time they needed to strip it down so they could sell the parts. It's too bad you can't bolt your car down to it's parking space.
@jimtoolman-j3fАй бұрын
Just a little late info. Guns weren't necessarily rusted from fire fighting. Fireproof safes are made "fire" proof by forming the walls with moisture laden cement. The moisture will flash to steam in a fire to prevent "burning" but will rust metal, soak papers, etc that are not sealed to protect them from the moisture. I've often wondered if they wouldn't dry out over long periods of time.
@perstaffanlundgren4 жыл бұрын
The fire profing is gipsum (like drywall) When the gypsum gets heated upp the chemically bound water get turned into steam, which cools the gun safe interior. The gypsum get reduced in the process. The gipsum dust that's is in the safe is / was "reduced" /unhardend/ gipsum. It will then go back to hardened when exposed to water. Note that unhardend gypsum is bad to get in your lungs. Good that you used masks when sawing . Clean that saw after. The unhardend and hardend is hardened gypsum is corrosive for steel. (Ask any artist /craftman that works with this kind of material.) The dust from the gipsum in combination with moisture has coroded the guns. Fire proof safes with this kind of "Insulation" should be opened asap after cooling down and content Cleaned upp. A bit stupid not to put in double steel walls i think that should have rescued the content from corrosive due to Gypsum dust. Note that that the content in holsters Is less coroded. Less dust there.
@Smittyschannel5 жыл бұрын
cameraman needs to keep his day job for sure.
@kellykeefe36105 жыл бұрын
Perhaps, it should have been called: "A fire resistant safe" Not Fire proof!
@shawnr7715 жыл бұрын
None of them are fireproof.
@wirebrush5 жыл бұрын
Yeah. No such thing as a fire proof safe. They all have fire ratings. Some are better than others.
@richardbadour17142 жыл бұрын
Hey everyone including camera’s operator! Thank You! Just so you know I “really enjoy your video” I received exactly what I was hoping for while watching this video! As far as the use of the saw I found it to be normal due to the stresses the light metal took during the fire! The interior of safe was also what I expected but wasn’t sure about! To me it was really sad that a person had to give up the safe for legal reasons??? I’m not sure what that could be and was hoping that would have been more explained!!! Now the best part of this video was thrown into the comments section! It has many good points if you avoid the negative and political statements! Myself “I” am very political but I didn’t come to this video to make my political viewpoints known!!! I came to see what happens to a safe if in a fire…. That’s it! Nothing more! So what “I” noticed without reading ALL of the comments…. Yet! I noticed, no fire bricks nor drywall materials??? Even cheap Gun-safes who have/state a fire ratings have something to deflect the temperature. Yet I didn’t see anything other than the white material that looked like a fiber mat which it was mentioned it could be a concrete liners! As you look through from the backside of the safe towards the door of the safe you will see heavy locking pins… which usually means it’s a better safe. But the lack of more fire proofing perhaps it’s not as good as being described (1200 degrees) fire proofing! So with this knowledge presented in this video I now know to elevate my gun safe by two and half feet off my basement floor and locate the safe near a floor drain with a debris guard on it! Also I will have to install my gun safe within a metal cabinet to give my gun safe air space from the direct heat of a fire This will act as a shield against the fire direct contact and could provide the best outcome to keep my guns safe inside of the safe because the metal cabinet will act like a shield and mostly likely take most of the damaging blows of the fire! Also not noted was to keeping flammable materials out of safe to avoid spontaneous combustion! Bullets and cardboard wrappers even your paperwork for gun permits or bills of sales should not be in there find another place for fire proofing them! Perhaps a smaller safe high off basement floor! Did anyone notice the cook off rounds??? Probably shouldn’t have loaded guns in your safe in case of a fire… although I didn’t see where and fired in any gun but it’s something to think about!
@ray-raydast.illahoesnaxtho58322 жыл бұрын
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@CarrotDugTooDeep3 ай бұрын
As far as legal troubles go, I couldn't help but wonder if it had to do with arson and insurance fraud...
@sergey9305 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure the rust on the guns was from the build up moisture, these fireproof safes must be kept open for 30 minutes every week/month, best would be to keep some silica gels inside to absorb humidity
@theav8rs455 жыл бұрын
Exactly! Thanks for watching!
@brandonlong55695 жыл бұрын
Yeah mine isn't even fireproof because if theres a fire then guns are fucked either way. But I keep a dehumidifier in there either way.
@mikebaird67885 жыл бұрын
I would say it did pretty good considering because at M&P 15-22 is polymer which is basically plastic and it didn't totally melt it
@dbutcher844 жыл бұрын
The metal used on most safes is surprisingly thin and not really meant for the fire part of it. It's more so the drywall like material it's lined with that insulates from heat. The door is much thicker to house the mechanics for moving the bolts.
@wag1580 Жыл бұрын
Good job. Ignore all the haters. I would have done a lot of what you did given the circumstances. Reading all the comments I've learned a lot about safes and fire protection! That info is worth its weight in gold, which we would not have seen if you didn't do what you did. Whether you did it correctly or not, we learned an awful lot about how safes protect things or not! Personally, I have to reevaluate my safes. Thanks for posting!
@lupenieto12105 жыл бұрын
Shorten the cut depth and slow the machine down and let it do its job.
@sportdiver554 жыл бұрын
Best response I've heard so far!!!
@keredrellit39924 жыл бұрын
That is a Mini-14. And yes it is a 22, .223 to be exact. It is the Precision model and that thing at the end of the barrel is an adjustable barrel dampener so you can find tune the barrel harmonics to whatever kind of ammunition you're running through it.
@flymachine3 жыл бұрын
Watching the abuse of the saw and blade was incredibly painful! Negative on the water damage, the heat is what caused the oxidation - much of the ammo will be perfectly serviceable, the barrels of the guns would have to be tested though.
@thomas1699 Жыл бұрын
Man, that is just depressing.
@xerolift3 жыл бұрын
"the lowers look incredible" How tf you gonna know what a lower is and not know they're forged aluminum that doesn't rust like steel?
@richardhill87973 жыл бұрын
How u know their not polymers, like the other guy said, cardboard boxes didn't even char. I was impressed with his saw and wanted one till I realized he was only cutting sheet metal. Rich
@Antykain3 жыл бұрын
@@richardhill8797 Those are mil-spec forged aluminum (7075) lowers, one of which is a S&W M&P. Can't see the markings on the other 3. But yeah, that saw though.. I was pretty impressed with that thing!
@imafriend13365 жыл бұрын
You can open that safe with a coat hanger in seconds, it takes longer to properly bend the hanger, then to open the box
@thegamepotato19125 жыл бұрын
im 17 in northern illinois and im not even half as uneducated about gun safety, knowledge or even power tool use lmao
@REF49 Жыл бұрын
You treated that pistol like you knew it was unloaded. Unwise.
@jimmurphy21323 жыл бұрын
Whoever made this video needs some training. I got tired of my head spinning.
@kyleesmythe66944 жыл бұрын
Just do audio recording next time it would be equally enjoyable to watch
@bryanmoring42985 жыл бұрын
Send me all that “no good” ammo
@milleniumann284 жыл бұрын
@People’s Voice if not I could clean and reload them.... that stuff is like gold these days!!!!
@66block843 жыл бұрын
Just a thought, put 2 to 4 layers of sheetrock on the OUTSIDE of the safe to keep the heet from getting to the contents in the first place.
@danielebrparish427110 ай бұрын
Not reqular but type X sheetrock.
@operator10185 жыл бұрын
Jesus Christ. Any of these guys ever took a safety class ? Or learned anything from their grandpa.
@Bowfinger63834 жыл бұрын
@@crawlinbear1963 as soon as I saw them in a hanger and brought that circular saw, I thought to myself ,"this should be interesting " a little disappointed nobody shed some blood. A pilot only has only so much luck allotted.
@voiceoftruth90444 жыл бұрын
No apparent safety training and unfortunately, between the three of them, they have 6 grandmothers.........
@patmcbride98535 жыл бұрын
If I did not die in the fire, my guns would be out of the safe as soon as FD drove off.
@vallee96665 жыл бұрын
Exactly, WTF!
@lisah64515 жыл бұрын
Same here, no one's ever getting my guns, burned or not
@mechag94885 жыл бұрын
Hopefully the same isn't damaged enough to prevent that. Many times the manufacturer will help you get them open.
@RegularAssUsername5 жыл бұрын
I'm getting my property when I want. I dare them to stop me, they'll meet the one that was on my person during the fire.
@chadharrelson28805 жыл бұрын
I'm with ya! Knock that wall out! Back the truck up here! Grab some chains! We;re dragging the safe out of this mess! Hurry! Hurry!
@VICHYATT5 жыл бұрын
Every fireman I have talked to says that if they see a gun safe in a fire, they hose it down to keep ammo from exploding.
@v8consumption5 жыл бұрын
The ammo almost never explodes it just bursts In singles. At least from every house fire I've seen with ammunition. Unless it's of course maybe packed full of ammo in safe I can't see it exploding.
@v8consumption5 жыл бұрын
@@TheAcceleratorMagazine lol that's pretty funny I wonder what his reasoning was. If you can take the intake off then it likly isn't very hot But I guess if you wanted a quick way to shut the motor off
@xxtwattwafflexx15 жыл бұрын
Ammo in a fire is the least of the worries a fireman should have. Search KZbin, there are videos of ammo in fire. The ammo wont even penetrate cardboard. The danger is only if there is a round chambered.
@VICHYATT5 жыл бұрын
@@xxtwattwafflexx1 That's what I told them and they wouldn't believe me.
@xxtwattwafflexx15 жыл бұрын
@@VICHYATT hahaha ... instead of the safe, they might want to focus on the reloading bench, specially if that person reloads with black powder and has several pounds.
@kencotton46452 жыл бұрын
The fire-proofing material is soaked with moisture which releases in a fire to protect the contents. That moisture and the heat is what caused the rust.