We Played Celeste While Designer Matt Thorson Watched

[@tomninetythree]

when did this [the word Smash] become hotter than this [the words Smash Bros]

[@kotaku]

exactly

[@Czeckie]

smash bros sounds like bang bros

[@KelsomaticPDX]

@@Czeckie Yes?

[@EbefrenRevo]

93 on Metacritic, 10/10 reviews everywere. Already a GOTY contender. Matt Makes Games is not a "little" Indie studio anymore.

[@virtuallylightblue]

it got in there

[@shlee3422]

When I first saw the strawberry with wings I thought it just moved to another section of the level cause I didn’t die (and see it respawn) and I thought I was chasing that same strawberry for half of the game...

[@nyctoverse5036]

thanks for making me laugh at your confusion and suffering

[@nonamea9177]

I thought the same thing lol

[@Danicker]

Yea as much as I love Celeste I do think it could have done with a bit more overt explanation of new features

[@beesree39]

@@Danicker it's almost as if there are signs that pretty much say "no, don't dash"

[@Danicker]

@@beesree39 Yea I know but they blend into the background of the level and can easily go unnoticed by new players. I didn't notice them until my second play through

[@greengoat1o1]

When he was in the area with the computer, I bet Matt was like "don't say anything don't say anything don't say anything don't say anything don't say anything don't say anything don't say anything don't say anything don't say anything don't say anything don't say anything don't say anything."

[@wellhellotherekyle]

Matt Thorson! If you were to actually make a level editor for this game please make it available on the Switch as well!

[@TheRealPolomz]

Kyle Humphrey it is available on switch! I just completed the game yesterday

[@wellhellotherekyle]

Polomz yeah I’ve got it on Switch too! I meant if they are putting a level editor in, they should put it on the Switch version as well!

[@TheRealPolomz]

ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh gotcha

[@henrykuzma5176]

Oh yes please.

[@VMan776]

I would gladly play money for a Mario Maker style level editor in Celeste.

[@ItsMeLilyV]

This game is a dang treasure! Matt seems like a smart & cool dude, and I really hope Tim keeps making these super-long interviews, they're a blast to watch and listen to.

[@mimisaur5000]

Playing Celeste while watching Matt Thorson watching people play Celeste

[@taffles7498]

uhh yeah…

[@dorianphibian3172]

That’s not “people,” BUDDY… that’s Tim Heckin’ Rogers!

[@scaredfolks5923]

Best game I have played in years! Truly amazing story and artwork.

[@Dani0x1B]

To me she's not Badeline, she's Part of You but with the squiggly letters. You *have* to include the dancing letters.

[@nomukun1138]

Her name is Partamee Positivity.

[@kharerishit]

@@nomukun1138 It's been two years, and this is still the best comment on this entire site

[@cloverlovania]

{~}Part Of Me{/~}

[@glinteastwood]

Went from chilling out to this interview at home to using ear buddies at work- audio only style. So relaxing and enjoyable on both fronts. Thanks for another smooth dense entertainment nugget.

[@tomninetythree]

the birds and the satellite 100% are key to some kind of Secret, i am so sure of it in my bones

[@quigzinator]

TomSmizzle it looked like there were a few different colors missing.

[@tomninetythree]

i can confirm my bones were correct and the birds and the satellite are indeed key to some kind of Secret

[@Silvergrooves42]

I loved how Matt was just able to keep quiet and be like: "yeah you need to go back", not give any spoilers or hints for one of the major secrets.

[@2spooky4tim45]

TomSmizzle You get a crystal heart if you do some code

[@JT-pv2nj]

almost memorized it :)

[@TheRealPolomz]

I see you matt with hiding an important secret

[@Xavierjonesmine]

You should've mentioned the soundtrack for this game, it fits so well

[@Goozeeeee]

Seriously! They played almost 2 hours with not a single mention of the music. Insane

[@KewieCRC420]

I would also like to thank Matt and the creators of this gem of a game. It was my favorite game of 2018 even more than Spider-Man and God of War. Without getting too deep this game got me through some of the darker times of last year. And for that thank you Matt and co.

[@gege3149]

This game is a masterpiece i played it through 8 tims since i wanted to complete the game in under 1 hour which i did at my 8th try already have 60 hours on my main save file and 190/200 strawberries

[@Maki-ng4jk]

tell me you've beaten farewell xD

[@Deviousjam]

This video deserves more views. Very insightful stuff and the game looks incredible! Love these low key chats between devs about the bigger challenges of game design and the more abstract stuff you don't think about! Loved it.

[@CrazyAnimalGaming]

I had to comeback and listen to you two go at it again. Hilarious commentating. Love you guys content.

[@KewieCRC420]

Really appreciate this video. This was game of the year for me. I’m new here and this and your Monster Boy video is my favs so for. Keep the great chill/entertaining content coming. Looking forward to your next one Tim. Take it easy.

[@johnjo8319]

Also I love the small details that play a big part in the 2D view

[@johnjo8319]

In the first 10 min you aren't bad just a casual starter, great music, art is very unique and eye satiesfactory

[@doogelyjim8627]

i love this game so much. very rarely do i see someone playing something that i've already played and i immediately have the itch to return.

[@diverseprogrammer18]

I'm watching this while making my game. Inspiration comes from great games with a great ending.

[@nicolassancho6569]

It will be cool watch him react to a speedrun of the game

[@RichConnerGMN]

Nicolas Sancho idk if he'll be at sgdq 2018 with tgh, but he probably knows that its a popular speedrun game

[@artstudioudara5273]

Matt "Thorson"...is he the son of Thor, the god of thunder?

[@phojoros]

Whattttt a CelesteMaker is coming?! Thanks!!!!!!!

[@blue9139]

Yeey

[@mimisaur5000]

yES

[@siddharthbhatia8815]

2 years later...

[@saiishot]

hi you guys should probably update her name in the title

[@Tubularm8]

This and Towerfall Ascension are one of the best games I've ever played!

[@chaserdk]

Someone has to say it: Tim Rogers is a cool guy

[@AlbertoFranco87]

agreed

[@nomukun1138]

Is this a joke?

[@loli42]

*Andrew Turner* Pretty sure it is.

[@chaserdk]

it's a joke and it's true

[@SomeGuyXG3]

Bet he will die hungry.

[@BestLyricsUEverSeen]

watching this and having this chapter memorized is so tough!! it's like watching a kids tv show. i just wanna scream "look over there!"

[@therivermarquis]

Easily my game of the year, and already my 3rd favorite game of all time, after Mother 3 and Chrono Trigger

[@LordTactusMe]

This game is amazing! Thank both of you, guys, for your work!

[@imnotmike]

This game is brutal. Playing it leaves you physically and mentally exhausted.

[@Maki-ng4jk]

@@souwurfe hell yeah it does. still haven't beaten farewell yet tho ;-;

[@cpgautam172]

@@Maki-ng4jk I hated farewell, just cause I wasn't skilled enough. It seems u have to have finish B and C sides to be able to beat farewell, and I don't think I can even beat all the b sides

[@jay-el9pg]

I actually ended up calling badeline “eviline” when I was playing the game

[@forkawaza2]

Thanks this was very nice to see and hear

[@NikozBG]

Little did he knew, there are 21 strawberries in this lvl ;)

[@darren591]

Nikolay Manev what

[@nomukun1138]

Yeah, later on another strawberry is added to get to 22, but that most difficult strawberry is there from the start.

[@Fogmeister]

Andrew Turner I have 22/20 strawbs 0on this chapter. That last strawb took me about 4 hours.

[@MommyIssues405]

That gold winged strawberry was stupid hard to get.

[@lewisdodds1088]

He loves mario 3 that's why there is a reference in the game in chapter 4

[@spikkle2627]

52:01 "What's the fastest way to solve this room?" Here's how the WR holder does it: kzbin.info/www/bejne/sIm0nnaJlthgrNkm34s

[@DanielDugovic]

For its day and age, DKC1 was revolutionary... but yes, its camera is difficult to use.

[@irurwurst]

i like when tim rogers' commenters imitate a generic tim rogers' commenter and then get yelled at by longtime tim rogers' watchers and then the actual freakazoids are just off in the corner

[@G1200-i8r]

This was a pleasure to watch ^_^

[@omega4446]

44:34 Wait a minute... does that mean that Matt Thorson exists in the universe of Celeste? I have so many questions!

[@CooperCreations1]

Who else thinks Tim sounds kinda like Jim Gaffigan?... Just me? Oh and this game is incredible, loved every bit of it.

[@brandenbran]

This reminds me of hollow knight with the wall hopping and dashing about

[@joelman1989]

This game is a masterpiece. I don’t play challenging games ever. I dont play games that make me angry and I suck at video games. I 100% this game. I’ve probably got way more deaths than most. It’s in the thousands. But it never felt frustrating. Well, with the exception of maybe a few strawberries late game but by that point I was totally down for some frustration. The bonus stuff post game I did not 100% because like I said I am not good. But every strawberry/cassette in the main story I got. It does such a good job of slowly introducing you to challenges. Teaching you. Making you feel like failure is not a big deal. It’s ok to start over. By the end I was sobbing. Because truthfully my approach to challenging video games is the same approach I’ve taken to life. I’ve done the safe thing easy thing. Have never done things I could fail at. And this game taught me maybe I should. Maybe I don’t suck as much a as I thought.

[@tejoHr]

That "cannot marry someone who loves Bioshock" tracked me up good

[@VMan776]

39:52 YES! Please take my money!

[@enneff]

This was an absolute delight.

[@StuartX666]

This game looks great !

[@Ani-pl2dv]

My dream is to become a level designer, and Matt Thorson is now my model.

[@Kufunninapuh]

Your my favourite person on the Internet Tim.

[@cloudcity4194]

8-way dash is from Strider 2014.

[@bestformspielt]

That was a great show!

[@Fudfood]

Finished the main story the other day, loved it, and then watched your "Show". Your developer-live-play-show is very entertaining and insightful. Did you end up finishing the game 100%?

[@lawrencewei3583]

i always though the plane was branches...

[@deanomitegames737]

@Kotaku Is it alright if I use a 5 second clip of this interview in my review of celeste? (the bit about the danger sign at ~17:00)

[@kotaku]

this is way too late, probably, though yeah, go ahead! lol

[@deanomitegames737]

XD haha yeah i assumed it would be ok and just used it :) I'm figuring out game reviews myself, the interview clip was nice to have. Thanks!

[@Deimos0VI]

You were better than when I started

[@graah2]

Bugsnax features frightenable strawberries.

[@mustlovebooknerd]

This guys plays like a freaking bonehead! It's so hard to watch without screaming at the computer screen. Great to hear Matt Thorson's comments though. This game is incredible and he has a lot to be proud of!

[@kotaku]

mustlovebooknerd hey man!! the game wasn’t even out yet!! also talking and playing is hard lol i promise i can completely own pretty much any segment of this game with my eyes closed now

[@iamalittleboat]

seems like you guys really hit it off, huh :)

[@when1699]

My first play through of this game I got 109 strawberries

[@Gusgitgud]

I enjoyed this meanwhile working during a cloudy Chilean day! BTW I love Mario 3 hehe!

[@Thaibiohazard123]

This is one of those game that I wouldn’t mind buying a season pass if there would ever be DLCs.

[@stu5632]

I remember 'Pandemonium' on PS1 being amazing - but not sure if it would be good now.

[@drsherifff]

Hi kotaku! Itd be awesome if you could update the title, removing the deadname

[@39Jhahapilie]

No

[@drsherifff]

@@39Jhahapilie?

[@39Jhahapilie]

@@drsherifff he will never be a real woman

[@39Jhahapilie]

@@drsherifff dilate

[@satosmi9408]

@@39Jhahapilielol

[@connorhorman]

I retry all the time in 100% Forsaken city because death warps

[@12345678abracadabra]

Let him talk

[@GreatistheWorld]

as of time of writing, this doesn’t have a million views. What the fuck

[@nomukun1138]

BATMAN THE MF'ING ANIMATED SERIES! I'm pretty sure the Mad Hatter was the villain, not the Scarecrow. At the end of the episode, he's defeated in less than a second and moans, "I was willing to give you whatever life you wanted, just so you would stay out of mine." And he never took off Batman's mask and he didn't tie him down or handcuff him. A little silly but still great. Tom (or Tim), you doofus, how could you not like Batman the Animated Series? Is your name Tom or Tim?

[@andrewhuber6744]

The host said he doesn't want to talk the whole time and he never shuts up. There are so many game related questions that he should have asked.

[@connorhorman]

Nice walkthrough. Uh in like twice the amount of time it took you to do prolouge I got all strawberries, Heart, and Casette Tape for 1a

[@vitorgas1]

The guy simply cannnot stop taliking about himself, he interrupted matt when he was talking about the game to babble about liking strawberry jam so much

[@deterpinklage4406]

Loved my playthrough of this game. Long live Matthew Thorson. Never change dude!

[@BrenoGF144]

Soooo her name is Maddy now She still makes games though :3

[@vstpnv]

Of course* Tim worked for Goichi Suda. Of course*. * - actually not that obvious. I don't know why I'm even saying of course.

[@videopsybeam7220]

I mean hey, they're both pretty gonzo. I wasn't surprised.

[@serock3]

It's more interesting if the developer plays

[@lukeshioshio]

"that Nintendo kingdom hearts game" Okay

[@737u]

Matt from Wii sports????

[@jessicakathleenbutler4299]

Where do you live that minimum wage is is 15? I want to make that much....

[@funamusic]

i know this video is old but could you change her deadname in the title? ^^

[@39Jhahapilie]

No

[@Alex-ns1pj]

Is this like Cave Story?

[@curzane]

lol it sounds like cave story lol it sounds like cave story lol it sounds like cave story lol it sounds like cave story lol it sounds like cave story plz pin me

[@freshmozzarello]

How can he say level 3 is hard when there are b sides and c sides out there??

[@kotaku]

Buff Muffin hey man this was before the game had even come out and i had just started playing it like a couple hours ago lol

[@frozengamer3030]

Is the difficulty the same as shovel knight

[@lukes.854]

No, it's more super meat boy with a story

[@jackdrye4348]

Frozen gamer It is much much harder - especially the post game.

[@frozengamer3030]

Plappy _ I know. I got the game

[@Trollseeder]

the b-sides and c-sides are probably the hardest thing i have ever played in my 25 years of a gaming career

[@frozengamer3030]

Trollseeder this game is good but is very frustrating at times.

[@robertstevens1694]

This game needs a Vita release

[@Fogmeister]

Gordon Shumway for all the 5 people that still play them.

[@Spencer-jw5cc]

Saying your own game sucks is like saying your own cake you spend a day making sucks.

[@nomukun1138]

Saying your own game sucks is like saying your own cake you spent *more than three years leading a team of professionals* making sucks.

[@ujustgotdunkedon4523]

Is it on PS4?

[@ujustgotdunkedon4523]

Batman is the best.

[@akaRicoSanchez]

So... who played the last run? (a joke)

[@kotaku]

that was me, buddy . . . about an hour after this recording ended lol

[@johnjo8319]

Hi❤

[@kotaku]

hey hi

[@noahperney6450]

Nice job avoiding another Cuphead disaster.

[@ujustgotdunkedon4523]

It kinda sounds like the host is copying Matt.

[@DevonAlexanderHess]

I love Celeste, and I love Maddy, so I'm not going to thumbs down this video. But god damn, this is a difficult watch. This guy isn't a great interviewer, and he isn't great at video games. He's splitting his concentration between playing and talking and he's failing at both. Go watch the Celeste Developer Commentary Livestream . It's this but much, much more interesting.

[@jasminelee3935]

I just watched that!!! I love hearing Maddy and the team talk about how they designed levels--they have so much to say and it was frustrating watching(listening to?) this interviewer not do the interviewing. I'll give em a pass on the game play, just because I very recently picked up celeste and was worse than this--but honestly, if you're going to do a game play interview, practice a lil more lmao

[@mayrbek123]

it's hard to watch tim play

[@deidrekeranen3438]

Not to be rude, but this dude has got to be joking. The secrets were right in front of him! (Sorry, i'm just obsessive compulsive like that.)

[@jasondp3546]

This game any good

[@jwc7215]

You have to use stamina to climb a wall? Lol.

[@hamboy2610]

I-i didn't find this game that hard?

[@108x]

congratulations . . . . . . . where do i mail the check

[@108x]

ah heck i meant to send that comment from the official kotaku account, which would have been funnier . . . now i look like a slightly bigger jerk than i actually am

[@Silvergrooves42]

Have you completed all the b-sides?

[@VictorLune]

Ham Boy completing all the golden strawberries is 100 times harder than B sides or C sides,

[@hamboy2610]

I just meant the default levels, I have now played the b sides and the are much harder and more my style! Plus the remixes of the songs are really good!

[@hack45993]

wtf are they talking about lol

[@connorhorman]

I am just cringing at your lack of hyper dashes

[@connorhorman]

...

[@Liam-pf7ih]

Actually, he does one a 1:28:26