WE'RE CONDUCTING AN EXPERIMENT! Alternative Moon Stompy- Legacy MTG

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ThrabenU

ThrabenU

Күн бұрын

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@Matt-tn2ls
@Matt-tn2ls 23 күн бұрын
In match 2 against show & tell I think that Screaming Nemesis(dying to brotherhood's end) stops them from gaining life with Griselbrand.
@gothblin
@gothblin 17 күн бұрын
Phil missing that (and fair enough, card has lots of words on) was a shame.
@MrAvatarzan
@MrAvatarzan 17 күн бұрын
The problem was he was dead in the air to Griselbrand attacks and a possible followup blocker
@Matt-tn2ls
@Matt-tn2ls 17 күн бұрын
@@MrAvatarzan I mean yes but no? After the Show + Tell and Griesel Phil has 13 life. Giving him 2 Griesel attacks. Phil plays out Magus the Show+Tell player has to put out another blocker and keep Griesel on D. If they ever activate the one ring they have to play a new one or kill Phil that turn or Stomp becomes live. It's actually a really hard spot for the Show&Tell player (depending on what their last 2 cards are).
@MrAvatarzan
@MrAvatarzan 17 күн бұрын
I definitely agree he threw in the towel preemptively instead of making them have it.
@colbysorenson9135
@colbysorenson9135 17 күн бұрын
I came looking for this msg as soon as I saw him concede
@nitemare187
@nitemare187 17 күн бұрын
17:55 I'm just screaming CAST THE SMASHING ON YOUR OWN CREATURE.
@CurtisKirkey
@CurtisKirkey 17 күн бұрын
same here hahahaa. only needed it on 1
@robmccarty755
@robmccarty755 17 күн бұрын
Likewise
@frienetic
@frienetic 17 күн бұрын
Consign made it moot
@CurtisKirkey
@CurtisKirkey 17 күн бұрын
@@frienetic sure, in hindsight. That's a horrible argument though.
@ericdaniello5659
@ericdaniello5659 17 күн бұрын
He could try again next turn no?
@derekcline950
@derekcline950 17 күн бұрын
Daze on Simian Spirit Guide is exactly the degenerate midgame after an interactive start that I love
@briandixon9140
@briandixon9140 23 күн бұрын
Nemesis, Shatterskull for x = 2 on Nemesis, possible lethal, attack to get them if they have an answer
@Lananotdelray
@Lananotdelray 17 күн бұрын
8:53 wow me and thrabenu are starting our new years the same way
@sel-ain
@sel-ain 17 күн бұрын
Love the archetype! There's a very interesting list on goldfish that 11-0'd some event recently with 4 Karns in the main deck. (@Phil i also wrote you on patreon)
@p1k4nurxp13sr
@p1k4nurxp13sr 17 күн бұрын
Match 1 game 3, if you smashing your own nemesis for 1 you can try and get lethal
@kaiseremotion854
@kaiseremotion854 17 күн бұрын
match 2 gristlebrand also wasn't going to gain life
@miaouew
@miaouew 17 күн бұрын
I think I remember another KZbinr doing this same type of decklist shortly after Duskmourn. I love it personally, moon stompy is really freaking neat.
@kevinkeijzer6349
@kevinkeijzer6349 17 күн бұрын
If I am not mistaken ThrabenU also did stream with moon stompy including razorkin needlehead and screaming nemesis around that time.
@briandixon9140
@briandixon9140 11 күн бұрын
@kevinkeijzer6349 he did, he 5-0'd with a list I had sent him. I think Screaming Nemesis is legit in Moon Stompy. I'd love to see it get more play for more data on it.
@kevinkeijzer6349
@kevinkeijzer6349 11 күн бұрын
​@@briandixon9140i agree, i also added screaming nemesis in my current moon stompy build.
@kaiseremotion854
@kaiseremotion854 17 күн бұрын
17:55 could you not shatterskull your own creature? or am I dumb
@jakerman999
@jakerman999 16 күн бұрын
Shatterskull x=1 for lethal, leaves mana up to play around daze. Gets hit by the consign. Second shatterskull leaves us in unknown territory, but looks like lethal again.
@briandixon9140
@briandixon9140 23 күн бұрын
To be fair, right now my head is at cutting Needlehead for Broadside and replacing Goyf with Fury. Needlehead head is good vs what I see in paper (lots of Echoes). But i want a more generic build for taking it into any unknown meta.
@SorcerySpeedConcede
@SorcerySpeedConcede 17 күн бұрын
I think that 1 Bonecrusher Giant MIGHT be worth keeping somewhere in the 75 for one ring decks so you can stomp something and attack through the protection turn.
@Totescolin
@Totescolin 12 күн бұрын
I like it in the sideboard a lot.
@gabrote42
@gabrote42 16 күн бұрын
17:41 Punt: it is if you shatterskull Nemesis. Especially if you do it twice, surviving both interaction cards shown after 25:22 Early concession: Griselbrand's lifelink is off. Why would you concede when all the draw is off and opp has one less creature than you do? 45:17 To be fair, a 2-3 is also not a good deck
@kevink.8809
@kevink.8809 22 күн бұрын
Brutal league. Great vid regardless.
@OctupleThreat
@OctupleThreat 17 күн бұрын
16 lands in Stompy feels like too much. My pet list runs 8 Sol lands, 1 Gemstone Caverns, and 3 Mountains. Having 4 chrome Mox means having 8-12 of the Boltland MDFC's is often rewarded and it makes up for the lower land count easy. I've also never understood why stompy decks don't run Imperial Recruiter. It fetches Magus of the Moon, Pinnacle Monk, and Broadside Bombadiers. Spicy creatures it can grab include Jaxis, the Troublemaker, Anger, and sometimes Pyrogoyfs. Relevant to this list in particular is that it can also fetch Razorkin Needlehead.
@ThrabenUniversity
@ThrabenUniversity 17 күн бұрын
I fully believe that it is wrong to max out on the 8 MDFC lands in an Ancient Tomb / One Ring deck when Delver is coming back into the metagame. Recruiter is very poor in terms of speed, which is the biggest knock against it.
@OctupleThreat
@OctupleThreat 16 күн бұрын
@@ThrabenUniversity Delver making a comeback will probably make me reconsider the mana balance of my deck and is a very good point. I do however have the deck built to force check turn 1 nearly 80% of the time Recruiter being slow seems like a small knock against it when (IMO) it drastically reduces the amount of dead draws in the mid/late game
@Sirlawngnome23
@Sirlawngnome23 17 күн бұрын
It would be interesting to see a running tally of your wins and losses on these leagues for the year. I'm betting even with sub-legacy power decks you are still positive. Always enjoy your content.
@ThrabenUniversity
@ThrabenUniversity 17 күн бұрын
For what it's worth, I don't really care. The channel is CLEARLY not optimized for win rate lol. I win more than I lose with crazy decks. That's good enough for me!
@Sirlawngnome23
@Sirlawngnome23 17 күн бұрын
@ThrabenUniversity Oh, I absolutely agree. That's one thing I really like about the channel. I was more meaning that are Compliment to your knowledge of the format and ability to play a wide array of decks with high proficiency.
@cheynewellington
@cheynewellington 16 күн бұрын
I haven't watched yet, but I hope to see a pitched fury targeting screaming nemesis to go to face for a win
@BhbtheRock
@BhbtheRock 17 күн бұрын
There's a very loud voice in my head that keeps forgetting what Shatterskull is allowed to target
@cwu1
@cwu1 17 күн бұрын
Hey how about Defense Grid in Moon Stompy instead of Chalice / Bauble?
@colinpatton1541
@colinpatton1541 17 күн бұрын
god i love the white boardered moons
@shapooopiefour7173
@shapooopiefour7173 17 күн бұрын
With a Pyrogoyf in the deck, is Lightning Bolt a good pick? Also, damage to the FACE
@GGun1t
@GGun1t 17 күн бұрын
Quite the state legacy is in right now huh
@gothblin
@gothblin 17 күн бұрын
Pyrogoyf has fast become my favourite lhurgoyf, and I liked it in this list, even if this was a sad league. Happy 2025, Phil!
@Starcoffin
@Starcoffin 15 күн бұрын
I agree with your Gemstone Caverns hot take. I just do not find it to be worth it.
@briandixon9140
@briandixon9140 11 күн бұрын
@Starcoffin I kind of agree now too. I play in paper, and I just lack 1 more same full art land so I fill that gap with Caverns. I put in an order for a chunk of cheap full art mountains with decent art and will switch those out when they arrive.
@nolimbsjohnny
@nolimbsjohnny 15 күн бұрын
could have shatterskull smashed your own screaming nemesis and redirect damage to face in match 1 game 2
@PedroInProgress
@PedroInProgress 21 күн бұрын
God magic is Brutal
@chiknsmack
@chiknsmack 17 күн бұрын
I don't play much EDH, but when I do I play budget Vito. Blood Tribute is the poor man's Exquisite Blood (it's not an "I Win" button, but it's a "You Lose" button for one player), and there's some neat overpriced ramp in Pristine Talisman and Paradise Plume for the Sol Ring haters.
@skirk248
@skirk248 17 күн бұрын
Man, these matchups just really screw ya
@TheAngelRaven
@TheAngelRaven 17 күн бұрын
Ah, yes. Ban Vexing Bauble, allow Opps All Spells to run wild. What a great thing for the format...
@justass3001
@justass3001 17 күн бұрын
True, better have a format where Oops all spells is running wild, but you also have mystic forge putting up 60% wr
@skirk248
@skirk248 17 күн бұрын
Not like different combos weren't ruining the format before. As control comes back Oops will get checked
@purplepenguinjo4960
@purplepenguinjo4960 17 күн бұрын
Engagement
@DimitrisAlisafakis-vb7jw
@DimitrisAlisafakis-vb7jw 17 күн бұрын
ANOTHER game that the rigged shuffler gives you back to back impropable loser cards. You really need to start keeping data on this. It is so unfair.
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