'We're doing better since Brexit' | Wetherspoon's Tim Martin says Remainers are wrong

[@JohnSmall314]

The crucial thing is the definition of "we". If "we" means the very rich, well they are doing better after Brexit. They now have control over the country and can get rid of laws that make life better for ordinary people. As in removing the right to strike, removing laws against polluting rivers, removing consumer protection laws, removing employment protection laws (that one is very important for Tim Martin).

[@jananders1351]

Absolutely true, there must be literally many millions excluded from Tim Martin's "we".

[@heathercooper6043]

Hmm, unlike the very rich of the political and media/arts world who did all they could to thwart Brexit. Big business did well out of cheap labour from EU. Polluting rivers is not really anything to do with Brexit is it. It's down to one of the many quango's (so beloved of Labour) who can't do their job properly, and of course a political class who can't do their job properly because they haven't had to. Rubber stamping EU directives is easy, having to run things on their own, shows just how useless they are.

[@trickslies844]

@@heathercooper6043 The only ones threatening to thwart brexit where brexiteers like you who demanded to be heard while having nothing to actually say. And that cheapl labour is the only reason people like you can still compete for a job. And the EU had higher standards for our quality of water as well as a effective monitoring agency. Not something the government can just replace with no preparation, especially have made underfunding government services in to their favourite past time

[@Geffo555]

Says the man who had to close half his pubs and complained about not being able to get staff.

[@scran7346]

Wasn't that more because of COVID?

[@Curryking32000]

Tim has not closed half his pubs and there has been an Europe and indeed global staff shortage crisis since the pandemic, not just in this country. Nothing to do with brexit.

[@Geffo555]

@@scran7346 It certainly contributed. But you can't just ignore the fact that lots of service workers were young people from EU countries. And he's still a Tory (I have a word for this space)

[@phillpotts9047]

He cleared that one in this interview.

[@Geffo555]

@@phillpotts9047 Was it worth listening to? Brexit justifiers get on my nerves too much.

[@JottoHearthStone]

Ah yes Tim Martin, the guy who kept posting covid conspiracy posters. To be honest, I think the country could literally be on fire and he would still say Brexit was a good thing

[@leviathon2]

There you go! Our country is on fire and here's Tim.

[@chrishyde1216]

My response is straightforward: I will never go in his pubs. For the same reason, I will never buy a Dyson.

[@nickybee3731]

I will never go to his pubs ever too

[@Geffo555]

Me neither. He treated his staff poorly. And I despise all the Brexit evangelists.

[@thediscokidd]

I go to his pubs to feel good looking. X

[@DrEmilSchaffhausenThe3rd]

Seconded.

[@007JHS]

Ditto!

[@just_watching_you_tube]

Brexit is the reason for people feeling so depressed, we have become small and isolated as an Island. I want my country back, in the heart of global trade in the heart of Europe.

[@heathercooper6043]

EU is not in the heart of global trade. You could of course go and live there, it wouldn't be too difficult.

[@dunnomate3587]

@@heathercooper6043that’s simply not true, uk citizens have the same rights to live or work in Europe as a Nigerian. You cannot unless you have a strong reason

[@torseharris3346]

It is terrible to hear you continue to defend Brexit. It has tanked the UK in every way. @@heathercooper6043

[@trickslies844]

@@heathercooper6043 Except for the UK it is. There are 3 global trade powers. The US, The EU and China. And only one of those is close enough for effective trade. And before you go "lots of countries outside the EU blablabla" Either already had excellent trade deals with them under the EU or they are to Broke to present any real benefit

[@just_watching_you_tube]

@@heathercooper6043 Why are you so obsessed with moving away, surely you love britain?

[@MrOliver1444]

Dishonest as all of the rich brexitiers

[@heathercooper6043]

Unlike the honesty of all the politicians and assorted people doing very well on the EU gravy train. No wonder they dug their heels in. So you've lost your job because of Brexit then I assume??

[@MrOliver1444]

@@heathercooper6043 you shouldn’t assume. Go with facts - that’s why you voted for this Brexit mess. Tell me, which promises materialised?

[@user-iz9co4qf6z]

@@MrOliver1444 self-governance. Why has Euro sceptic politicians like Girt Wilders and Meloni been elected to office and now it it looks like Marine Le Pen is close to a huge victory in the European elections in France? The EU is falling apart mate. Get with it. You're repeating the same arguments from 2016. It must be very sad for you to live like this for so long with such bitterness

[@Bob-nd2mr]

@@MrOliver1444 ....move on. Brexit is done. Brtain lucky that way...glad we r not tangled in europe...a big war is brewing up and best ...we decide...not EU . tim martin is some one who is both "normal geyser" and "independent mind".....would listen to him . good track record of being right

[@chaoscorsair]

​@@Bob-nd2mrnobody can move on from Brexit. It is still affecting everyone. War has nothing to do with Brexit. Our allies and our commitments haven't changed due to Brexit. 🙄

[@grizcuz]

If he can't understand why young people aren't staying out late drinking and clubbing. Then that tells me that he's out of touch with people. It's because everybody's skint, mate, partly because of your precious Brexit.

[@heathercooper6043]

People are skint because so many people thought closing down an economy a good idea, while the Chancellor splashed the cash for everyone to stay home and oh of course money handed out to 'eat out and help out' What you thought all that would be for free??? Who was going to pay?? Then of course we have the Bank of England selling Bonds at ludicrous knock down prices, but don't worry the tax payer shells out for the losses. Then there is the incompetent OBR, can't get a yearly forecast correct, and the idiots in charge take their lead on a 5yr forecast (Hmm who else had 5 yr forecasts) So more taxes to be paid. The biggest issue is that we have a political class regardless of the rosette colour, stuffed to the gills with those who are barely middle management competency, now running a country that they couldn't care less about, and haven't got a clue how to. Over 40 years of just having to turn up and be paid to rubber stamp EU directives has left us in a sorry state and no wonder none of the political class wanted Brexit.

[@ianfraser6161]

I refuse to give any custom to Wetherspoon’s because of Martin and his support for Brexit.

[@joesoy9185]

I have boycotted this chain since BREXIT. You too ?

[@heathercooper6043]

He must be absolutely devastated.

[@joesoy9185]

@@heathercooper6043 Only a fool alienates half the electorate.

[@hgt1001]

No.

[@purplewos]

I eat and drink more at Weatherspoons nowadays. What a guy. The woke are window licking again 😂

[@shauneco]

He doesn't want you in his pubs anyway.

[@rickwilmot9127]

I haven't set foot in a Wetherspoons since Brexit!!

[@Knappa22]

I wouldn’t set foot in one of his seedy dives even if it were the only pub in town.

[@cyberash3000]

is that why hes shutting down a load of his pubs cos hes doing so well, i see. il go tell the the workers at at the drummond that they are losing their jobs and its being sold off cos they are doing really well

[@heathercooper6043]

I bet you loved the lock down and the closure of the economy and Sunak splashing the money around like it was going out of fashion. Of course that can't possibly have done any damage, it's all Brexit.

[@mandriod5255]

I refuse to spend a penny in one of his alcoholic paradises due Martins Brexit beliefs

[@verttikoo2052]

Paradises?? 😮🤣😂

[@alanmarr3323]

No one else is doing well from Brexit

[@user-iz9co4qf6z]

How has Brexit affected your life?

[@Curryking32000]

oh yes they are

[@Geffo555]

@@Curryking32000 True. The likes of Mogg have filled their pockets.

[@justsomefella1489]

​@Curryking32000 you're another fan of fantasy then

[@andyknowles772]

​@@user-iz9co4qf6z Added to inflation (and will add even more when the border checks we should have implemented 3 years ago) come in, no right to live and work in the most advanced nations on earth, the end of the UK as a sovereign state and the general demise of Britain's reputation.

[@Tom_murray89]

He may be a sir and run a business however in my opinion Brexit hasn’t helped the country

[@busterbuster1641]

The perfect Tory mode of = I'm alright Jack. What a sociopath.

[@heathercooper6043]

Sounds like most of the champagne socialists I know.

[@busterbuster1641]

One of Marx's oft forgotten quotes "let the masses drink champers! "

[@paulgeraghty2336]

He's in denial. Tell the fishermen that Brexit is good. Tell the farmers, the car industry, the steel manufacturers, the care sector, hospitality sector and anyone that exports or imports goods from Europe etc. etc......

[@heathercooper6043]

Good Lord. The fishermen had their livelihoods decimated by EU. It is the absolute back stabbing of the political class who didn't want to get off the EU gravy train that has ensured they have been doubly kicked in the teeth.

[@heathercooper6043]

Have you not noticed the Farmers in the EU are not very happy, even chugged up outside your beloved EU HQ - Brexit I suppose??

[@rogerphelps9939]

You believe that nonsense don't you. Pathetic.@@heathercooper6043

[@paolocantoni7065]

The farmers in EU are really rich, the riot are for ridicolous reasons..... in italy i can assume that they are the best tax class, gasoline free and lots of benefits.... EU for farmers is gold from the sky

[@anatolydyatlov5196]

He's deluded

[@oldgreybeard2507]

Not so much deluded as full of what the Tories allow water companies to pump into waterways.

[@andyknowles772]

Sounds half cut, too.

[@heathercooper6043]

Why? Are you sure you are not just being led by the nose into thinking anyone defending Brexit is automatically wrong because Brexit didn't suit the establishment? Most of the political establishment didn't want Brexit, it will expose them as the useless fools they are. It's one thing to just turn up and rubber stamp EU directives, quite another to have to prove your worth on your own. Champagne socialists of media & arts world also good at telling the 'little man' the sky would fall in if we left the EU. Then there is big business and cheap labour!!!! Some liked the EU gravy train for sure.

[@BenRobinson1974]

He is somehow even thicker than he looks. Amazing.

[@heathercooper6043]

Wow, that's a really intelligent comment.

[@Stan_55UK]

@@heathercooper6043 It should be easy for you to prove the comment incorrect then?

[@trickslies844]

@@heathercooper6043 Yeah not he's such a brilliant business man his profit margin is half of what his competitors make

[@jhoneyb]

So thick that he owns a company that employs 42,000 people. You are the thick one mate.

[@patrickryan5570]

Ask him how much Brexit has cost the UK so far - The official government figures estimate the Brexit losses are twice the cost of Covid with zero dividends.

[@johnvaleanbaily246]

Brexit was and is the worst thing to happen since WW2.

[@harrypainter7472]

You mean the lockdowns

[@michaelarchangel1163]

You'll get over it, eventually. If not, who'll care ?

[@user-iz9co4qf6z]

How about all the Islamist terrorist attacks?

[@johnvaleanbaily246]

@@michaelarchangel1163 Nothing to get over for me, I emigrated 40 years ago, so the likes of you have to live with the decline and fall....

[@johnvaleanbaily246]

@@harrypainter7472 No, the lockdowns were bad, but short lived. Brexit will continue to affect Britain for ever more, There will be no UK after first N. Ireland then Scotland leave the union. Irreparable economic damage.

[@squeakyproductions]

Tim said we were going to get cheap orange juice after Brexit, I'm still waiting for mine.

[@JamesMoss23]

Great Interview. Love Tim, talks so much sense.

[@johnkirwan1777]

No, Tim is an idiot, he loves the limelight. my advice to Tim is to stay away from TV interviews concentrate on business and keep your trap shut. You have turned a lot of the public against you.

[@soulkisschaoscrypt]

Is that why there is only one out of three Wetherspoons still open in Croydon?

[@lolly1811]

You’d get more sense out of a scarecrow!

[@alistairrobinson3865]

A poorer population will lead to higher market share for whetherspoons, what a patriot

[@robh8814]

I dumped Wetherspoons at the beg of 2020 just before Covid started. I can count on 1 hand the amount of time Ive been in one since. I tend to avoid the food these days as they put the prices up & cut the portions. Support Good local independent pubs.

[@anthonygrayson7753]

Can't listen to him anymore. He's living on a different planet from most of us. Brexit is a disaster and he's wriggling. I won't visit his pubs anymore!

[@andyknowles772]

Wurzel Gummidge seems half cut in this.

[@waerlogauk]

We don't vote for the president of the EU and we don't vote for the prime minister of the UK. This was a reason to leave EU. I don't see him calling for a reform of the UK voting system.

[@colbr6733]

The Prime minister is normally standing asking for votes from the public during an election. The EU President and entire EU commission aren't. The commission aren't even legally accountable to the Parliament in Brussels. Parliament in London could remove the UK government. The EU Parliament can't remove the EU Commission or any part of it.

[@damianleah6744]

@@colbr6733you vote for an MP in your constituency, that’s all. Then hope the party you voted for via said MP wins. If not you are stuck for five years or whenever is in power calls an election, then the whole merry go round starts again.

[@stevethornhill3304]

Welcome to Wetherspoons new pub " The Lunatic's Arms"

[@TheLucanicLord]

If there was a "Never get high on your own supply" campaign he'd be the mascot.

[@daveturner4134]

Ahahahaha

[@robertmurray1157]

Tim Martin clearly has a 'Daily Express reader' level of understanding of the role of EU president. What a shame he had the power to push Brexit self harm.

[@malcolmturner214]

Some people are just too stubborn to admit how dumb they were listening to Boris the clown , the man who didn’t want to leave but only done it so he could be king of England then make a complete disaster of everything he touched 😂

[@samthompson7568]

Chief Gammon: Everything is fine and we are actually doing better than before we left. Everyone with more than two brain cells to rub together: Why is my sovereignty not feeding my family?

[@guydreamr]

This guy is one the biggest poster boys as to why Brexit was a bad idea that I've ever seen.

[@MangoFIlms_CH]

Absolute Brexchimp!

[@dagatha3982]

British people don't vote for their PM. So, is the UK not a democracy? Just as in the UK, the European people vote for parties. The next EU-election is coming up in June this year. And it's a fixed date, not just sometime whenever the people in power at the time feel it suits them.

[@1705louloutte]

This man is such an absolute disgrace

[@greattobeadub]

Low unemployment, low wages and productivity, low levels of training, and academic achievement.

[@autouniontypeA]

The man is blind to the Brexit damage he wanted.

[@adampeckham8541]

Interesting that he talks about Brexit being all about "Democracy". In which case I look forward to seeing his support for Scottish Independence .... of course he probably won't because he's a hypocrite

[@GeldardtheGrey]

I've worked in the hotel business for 25 years and its funny how Tim Martin and Rocco Forte are always wheeled out to try and show the benefits of Brexit to the hospitality industry when they are quite possibly the only two 'well known' people within the industry who actually think that, because they can't get anyone else in the business to defend it. I've yet to see the owner of the Ritz, the manager of Bolton Abbey or the supervisor of the executive hospitality suite at Liverpool FC come out and say how wonderful Brexit is when the majority view, because of widespread evidence, is that it's been a shower of **** for the sector.

[@timmasters7526]

As someone who has spoken to many Spoons managers and staff. I know that Spoons struggles for staff and staff retention. Sourcing food products has become far more difficult. The fact that some of his pubs are about to shut up contradicts his positives.

[@alanwatterson2850]

How long can these people pretend that enforcing trade sanctions on itself was not a great move for the UK?

[@kevingrant7098]

I thought he was going to say, for a minute people that drink in his pubs are above average intelligence😂

[@RichardForster-gu1ww]

Ha! Ha! Ha! What a plonker, ask the farmers and any other trader what they think about brexit.

[@heathercooper6043]

What the Farmers who were being paid by the EU not to ..........errr Farm??

[@leod-sigefast]

And then Tim Martin and the Brexiteers (sounds like a band name) woke up from their dream...

[@Gibbo1]

He's paid over 6bn in tax and employs 40,000 people, can't understand why people don't like him

[@alanmarr3323]

Wetherspoons have the atmosphere of a work's canteen , they only attract those who want cheap beer!

[@beebeer]

A lot of people simply can't afford £6+ for a pint, obviously you can - good for you. There are plenty of places for you to buy an over priced pint from.

[@artistreality]

I never voted in the referendum, I don't care if we're in or out of the EU. Though the benefits of Brexit have never been used to its full potential and I don't think it ever will be under a Tory or Labour government. Whether you're a leave or remain voter, you can't deny it has exposed how badly run Britain has been. Worst generation of mps ever in parliament, civil service completely useless and should all be sacked. We have no self sufficiency in anything. Net zero dragging us into an even more dangerous reliance on foreign imports. Let's stop the division on Brexit now, we should be more concerned with not exploiting it to its full potential and becoming as self sufficient as we humanly can be with food, energy and manufacturing. One thing I will say the Brexit group lied about. That was immigration and deportations. In the EU we could deport anyone within 3 months if they didn't find work and all the Tories did was change European immigration (which I didn't mind) to Indian, Pakistani etc etc.

[@juliantaylor2223]

I will never go in a Wetherspoons again. Awful places full of desperate types

[@monsieurgrigny]

The legend Tim Martin. Listen up!!

[@bakedbean37]

Four and a half minutes in and I'm just about done. "..the lowest unemployment and it just doesn't fit with the economic climate ... I don't understand it." Would a nation of unpaid slaves make a better fit with the economic climate? Six and a half minutes in and he's bemoaning the lack of workers again. So that's a lack of workers with the lowest unemployment and an abysmal economic climate. I'll keep watching. You never know. Some lights may go on in the remaining time though I'm not holding my breath. Eight and a half minutes in : Doesn't understand how representative democracies work. I'll stick with it till the end. I doubt the lights are going to come on any time soon though. Thirteen and a half minutes in and it turns out he has stats that the average drinker in a Weatherspoon's pub is above average ...! Above average for what? Above average income? Intellect? Height? Weight? Gammon quotient? At sixteen and a half minutes I'm struggling to find any more point in watching ...! Oh well. I tried.

[@specialized500]

Well done I didn't last at all you deserve a medal!

[@bakedbean37]

@@specialized500 Never mind medals. I'll have an Abbot ale. It''s about the only thing I agree with him on. 🙂

[@valeriebrice3673]

What an awful example of an ignorant British businessman completely oblivious to what he's helped to do to this country. People are probably drinking more because they're more miserable.

[@johngallahhh]

Never been in a spoons since Brexit.

[@geoffreymcdonnell9869]

Well after 25 years of visiting weatherspoons my solid observation is the range and quality of food has gone down recently + the cost has gone up- and for strange reasons! My visit to the Fort William Weatherspoons was shocking by the totally awfully expensive prices! The range of food also has narrowed as my fav lamb shank & mash is gone, as are most soup and yet I found last year a few totally outstanding weatherspoons for beer value & quality such as in Hemel Hempstead😅, clearly since 'Covid' what is offered in a weatherspoons is 'less' and for a higher price, but then again I noticed almost everywhere in the UK is expensive.

[@michaelrowsell1160]

Having this traitor on has made me un-subscribe

[@patshiels5429]

As if he would say anything else

[@yellowperilbiker]

Lot of very snide comments on here. Like to see any of these knockers do as well as him.....create business, create jobs. We need growth, we need dynamics. If half the remoaners could produce so much from a dead stop we could be Great again. Close Westminster completely and start again would help, but that never happen alas.

[@Piden-l4b]

People are so depressed that they are going to his pub to get wasted and forget the whole mess.

[@proKITfootball]

Which European economies did UK outdo?

[@mrchainanimal3637]

The EU does not vote for the president, correct. But does the UK vote for the PM? And is FPTP democratic? And who votes for the Lords, who are part of the UK legislative?

[@verttikoo2052]

House of Lards and that kingy thing. 🎉

[@bishimixes9871]

Didn’t he go through 2 tranches of mass closures since brexit ? One of the very rare brexit benefits !!

[@Nicho2020]

Wetherspoons doing well? It must be the cheap beer - the only beer many people can afford.

[@TheLucanicLord]

Correct me if I'n wrong, but can't the Irish cone and go as they please? And we don't elect our PM either.

[@shanekerrigan5490]

Yes we can,and Brits can do the same in Ireland...its called the common travel area...in existence for 100+ years.Lots of Brits in Ireland and welcome they are too.

[@verttikoo2052]

Parliament elects the PM. PM must be MP.

[@grahamwood7395]

He's clearly not thick, built a large business, so must have something. But he's selective, our GDP per head fell in 2023, so we created less wealth. On average, wages went up by 5.8% in 2023, but inflation by 7.5% so people were worse off. Low unemployment, low wages ...... He doesn't care though.

[@peterwhiteman2122]

Never mind the experts - listen to the bloke down the pub.

[@user-iz9co4qf6z]

Nothing seems to have changed since brexit tbh

[@robmc3338]

TM has lost the plot. Tuesday Steak night is now a lot more expensive and the Mixed Grill absant. Curry night poppadoms and dips now never comes with everything it should. All of this happened after Brexit, maybe TM should run his properly if he want to prove Brexit isnt the issue....

[@Peter-d9p]

First there was Brexshit...now for the sequel: Wexshit!🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@LaurenceBoyce]

Don't worry Tim, the honours system was already in disrepute. I've never been to a good Weatherspoon's, apart from Bury St Edmunds which is a very nice place.

[@damianleah6744]

The old Egyptian river De-Nile. 😂

[@215Gallagher]

Cameron needs to be put out to pasture rather than being the unelected lord propping up the perfidious IDF. No wonder Wspoons is doing so well, people are depressed and turning to the drink.

[@GlobalGeorgeIR]

No man, the average person certainly isn't.

[@aguywithaview]

Fantasist or liar. He's either one or the other, or perhaps he's both.

[@benmayhew2K]

Tim Martin is actually a very nice person shame he was the cause of Brexit.

[@paulbird3235]

He just want's what he want's. No one else matters, bet it's a blast to work for him.

[@paulalderson7329]

He talks like he's had a breakfast pint or two.

[@DeeFibbs]

18 Oct 2023 - UK pub giant JD Wetherspoon has put its regional Irish pub portfolio on the market for €10 million. 7 Oct 2021 - Intel CEO Pat Gelsinger told the BBC that the $77bn-revenue hardware giant would have considered the UK as a site for a new chip factory 2022- US chip giant Intel is on something of a semiconductor spending spree in Europe at the moment, but it appears to be shunning the UK. According to reports this week, the Californian-headquartered firm is planning to spend €30bn (£25bn) in Germany, €23bn in Israel, and €4.6bn in Poland. How much has Intel invested in Ireland? €30bn The new Fab 34 facility doubles Intel's manufacturing space in Ireland, bringing its total investment in Ireland to more than €30bn.

[@colbr6733]

I'm a lifelong supporter of the EU, but it seems he's actually right about democracy underpinning society. The current structures are definitely leaving many feeling left out here in the EU.

[@jsanders100]

Thé Brexit vote was not an example of democracy it was an example of mind manipulation via the internet

[@moffattF]

Great value for money but his politics have destroyed Britain.🇬🇧 he caters for the hard up and Brexit has delivered many more of them.😅😢

[@AndreS_22246]

I voted remain but also can clearly see Tim is a decent man who I happened to disagree with on one issue. No problem there.

[@melthebell33]

3.30 in, right bored of him ow, his voice is slow and annoying too

[@Evemeister12]

He's lost so many staff and closed so many pubs. Yeah, he's doing well. Just like all those British farmers and fishermen who're counting the cost of brexit on their businesses.

[@smoozerish]

What a slime ball

[@finncarlbomholtsrensen1188]

Fine. And who cares in Europe, as we are also fine since Brexit.

[@margaretsalasidis7529]

He would say that

[@Stigtoes]

If Tim Martin is so concerned about the democratic deficit, how come he lives in a country where he dosen't vote for the head of state, anyone in the house of Lords, or the PM and unless he votes for the winning candidate in a general election, his vote isignored.

[@haseebur-rehman3218]

Vermin

[@daraorourke5798]

Smashy and Nicey again...

[@charlesabboud1613]

I love how Brexiteers have rebadged inflationary skills shortages as ‘highest ever employment’.

[@EppingBlogger]

We also do not need to allow immigration (and permanent citizenship) when work permits are a convenient solution. The answer to the conundrum Tim posed (low unemployment but scarcity of workers for some businesses) is that millions are still living off state benefits. many too have retired and will live off their pensions until they have run out then it will be over to the tax payer.

[@greghill7759]

"...Tim Martin, Brexiteer and founder of Wetherspoons, says he’d do a better job as prime minister than Boris Johnson..." I don't think that particular boast says much for Mr Martin's abilities.

[@alansdorsetfossils4028]

Come on you were bleating that you could not get staff after Brexit. Be honest with yourself your twisting reality.

[@jamesprice4647]

I won't go there.

[@1TimBaugh]

Don't know why you bother broadcasting such a worthless viewpoint.

[@Uduwerage]

Delusional!

[@mikecfranks]

Doing so well he is having to sell half his pubs....cannot find staff and cannot compete with the Supermarkets...so a doom loop..approaching as Brexit continues to demand greater tax from companies and teh public

[@oNe-TwO-fReE]

Yeah its people drowning thier sorrows not celebrating