We're not on the Enterprise anymore... - DS9: Emissary - Season 1, Episodes 1-2 (Series Premiere)

[@shuboy05]

Fun fact Avery Brooks did not intend to win the role of Ben Sisko. His Star Trek fan wife literally forced him to go to the auditions. And during the audition Brooks gave off the impression of someone who did not want to be there. Which was EXACTLY what the producers were looking for since Sisko also starts the series as a man who didn't want his new job.

[@SpookyTanukiGaming]

It’s a shame that DS9 wasn’t nearly as popular as TNG because it is such a fantastic show.

[@Ironcorgi2]

Of all the treks it holds up better for modern consumption since TNG and VOY have episodes that barely connect at times while DS9 has an overarching storyline

[@horatiohornblower3757]

Of fans that have been fans for decades, it seems almost universally DS9 is considered the "favorite". Outside of those that stick with whatever the first one they saw that got them hooked on Trek, which is more often than not TNG.

[@dragonsword7370]

@@horatiohornblower3757 That's funny, because it would either be TNG or VOY that was the intro, but counting my reruns over the years that I specifically sought out? DS9 is my fav.

[@CSestp]

​@Ironcorgi2 I was kind of talking to my dad about this in a way. Back in the day, sci-fi was pretty hopeful. You had things like Alien, but that was still an outside threat. Modern Sci-fi has gotten gloomy. To me that means the modern outlook on the future has shifted.

[@NigerianNinja-d6h]

Yes....after season 2, although there are way more good episodes in the first two seasons of DS9 than TNG that's for sure.

[@KingApeiron]

"Your wife died like a chump. As your superior officer, I order you to get over it." - Picard to Sisko

[@GKEnder]

Legendary

[@joearnold6881]

And then he goes, “Biiiiiiiiiiiitch”

[@johnathanmichaud867]

You should reach out to Andrew Robinson (Garak) to do a new cameo to replace the Denise Crosby one. He'd be the perfect one!

[@EricTheSaylorman]

He seems like a cool guy. Which is weird, considering his most famous role outside DS9 is the serial killer from Dirty Harry.

[@JohnMuhaw-qu1wi]

That's a great idea, Garak rules

[@cm9241]

​@@EricTheSaylormanJesus wept

[@kristinab3838]

​@@EricTheSaylorman and Liberace!

[@masere]

Ask him to "come to daddy."

[@iseemtobeaverb8249]

“Baseball is the key to everything in this show.” Perfect synopsis.

[@fujipuff5328]

I don't think you understand how long I've waited for this. I found this channel when looking for DS9 retrospectives and all I could find was NG podcasts and retrospectives. I can't wait to see how you all think about it and why

[@bazzers]

Check out Jammer's Reviews. Plenty of per-episode detailed DS9 discussion and commentary, with some on the forum offering broader perspective as the series progresses.

[@fujipuff5328]

​@@bazzerscan you link the channel, I can't seem to find it

[@williamcorey4700]

Check out the Rageaholic he has a great series, although a number of his episodes get screwed by Paramount

[@Sagitarria]

@@fujipuff5328it’s a website not a channel

[@nealhoogenboom8963]

Bless you, I have had the same feelings.

[@lournefrancisco2992]

I have been waiting months for you guys to get to DS9. Commented on a previous vid on it 😂 My brother is going through chemo treatments for stage 4 cancer and i love listening to you guys, it's the little comfort I get and helps me sleep at night. So .thank you.

[@NewbieStarTrek]

I'm so sorry about what your brother is going through. Cancer is awful. We wish him and you the best.

[@davidvondoom2853]

When I was younger, I always thought the first season of DS9 was kind of slow, but watching it again as an adult, I have new appreciation for some of the nuances I missed, the first time through. For example; this episode deals with the subject of PTSD. When Sisko is in the wormhole, speaking with the profits, and it keeps taking him back to the death of his wife and them saying "but, you exist here". They are talking about the emotional scars and trauma that Ben is dealing with. PTSD is very much like that. It sticks with you and years later the wounds can still feel fresh. It effects who you are and your life. It chances who you are, as a person and becomes a part of you. The moment of trauma sticks with you and you ''exist there'', as the aliens put it. They can see how it's effecting him, how it's become a part of his psyche. "We're not bring you here. You are. You exist here (like he's trapped in that moment)" they tell him, because they see his PTSD and how it's effecting him. And because they can see past, present and future, they see how that moment will effect the course of Sisko's life, if he doesn't address it. If can either define the course of his future or not. And that's why Sisko has a change of heart, at the end of the episode and decides to stay on DS9. He realizes his trauma was dictating his decision making. His hatred for Picard, his fear of having his family on a dangerous space station and wanting to stay on Earth, where it's safe and quit Starfleet. He realized he couldn't let that one moment take over his life and let it hold him back, as it does for so many that suffer from PTSD. It's little things like that, that you don't really pick up on, unless you understand the subject matter.

[@patcrowder608]

This is probably the most beautiful and accurate description of what that first DS9 episode was all about. Thank you for expressing it.

[@nickswargaminghistory4637]

DS9 was revolutionary ad it moved from story/alien of the week stand-alone episodes to the season-long storylines that are used in every TV series today.

[@trojoe]

I'm so envious of you. I wish I could experience DS9 for the first time again. For two seasons, you'll wonder why everyone loves this show. But then you'll be treated to peak Star Trek, DS9 seasons 3-7. ❤

[@gaz-l621]

@@trojoe Disagree. Seasons 1 and 2 are strong on their own, just different to the later stuff

[@qhu3878]

​@@gaz-l621 s1 and 2 are good, but 3-7 are _peak_ star trek

[@leodouskyron5671]

There are good episodes that are really good in the first couple of seasons. (Example “Duet”) it is really arguably the best first season in this era of trek.

[@davescott7680]

​@@leodouskyron5671Most treks have bad first seasons and then loads of bad episodes scattered throughout. I think DS9 only has 1 truely bad episode, Move Along Home. Rest were decent, and then are brilliant season 3 onwards.

[@freudianslip2192]

Agreed, 3-7 are special. Although, there are a few really good one-offs in seasons 1 and 2.

[@sneaksyranger]

In the novel of this episode, Sisko tells Picard "It's good to see you again sir." And when Picard asks what he means, Sisko tells him they met in battle at Wolf 359, and it's this whole awkward grenade he just throws into the room that flusters Picard.

[@stilickoh]

i just rewatched it a couple days ago, i remember sisko saying that in the episode too

[@Warlord_Hyperion]

I hope you guys are aware of the impact your show already has. I’m Australian, I was born in ‘84 so I grew up watching TNG but I never really considered myself a Trekkie. But that show always held a special nostalgic spot for me. After discovering your podcast and following along, I actually decided to try DS9 because you guys were about to. You know what? I love it. I think I prefer it to TNG and until now that was the ONLY Star Trek I liked. Thank guys.

[@sararazack]

❤❤❤❤

[@taurinr]

Agreed this podcast made me want to watch the episodes again before hearing the recaps so that I could have more of an informed sense of why the newbie crew reacts to it the way they do.

[@DatBrasss]

I think what Picard meant by "Don't violate the Prime Directive" in this context was more along the lines of "Give advice but not orders." The Prime Directive traditionally only applies to pre-Warp civilizations, and the Bajorans are in a weird spot there. I don't believe they have their own warp engine manufacturing up and running, but they've had experience with other warp-capable civilizations. Perhaps they're in a gray area as far as the Prime Directive goes.

[@brianyaksha]

Yeah, I had always assumed it was the case that the Bajorans were pre-Warp but removed from the usual scenario due to the Cardassians turning them into a client state. Just recently freed from their thralldom, the Federation is looking at them and seeing all the damage done (and all the things they still have which the Federation usually hopes would be left behind by a species once Warp is known to them), and thus Picard is telling Sisko to play it by ear.

[@DrinkyMcBeer]

The bajorans never invented warp travel, but their solar sailers could travel ftl when riding on tachyon eddies. They had a multi planet civilization before the cardassian occupation. Its also notable that bajoran history and culture is older than the entire human species. But the prime directive applies to basically any unaligned people. The federation is supposed to be non-interventionist. Since bajor just won their independence, the federation wants to lend assistance, but needs to be careful not to slide into the role of benevolent occupier.

[@bobnolen568]

​@@brianyakshayeah they were technically already part of a warp capible civilization

[@SignoftheMagi]

​@@DrinkyMcBeerThe Bajorans DID have warp drive. They had just created warp-capable ships when the Cardassians annexed their world. You see a few of them in the series, but for obvious reasons they are pretty rare.

[@DrinkyMcBeer]

@SignoftheMagi was that before or after they were conquered. I was just looking them up on memory alpha and it claimed they never developed warp technology, but used ftl light ships.

[@afty_]

Also, Armin Shimerman (Quark) has always said he was a bit ashamed/embaressed of how he played ferengi in TNG. He said he wanted to redeem the ferengi in Ds9, thats literally why he took the role. And he DOES redeem the ferengi. Keep an eye on his brother, Rom, too.

[@DOSv622]

22:04 Denise Crosby’s famous grandfather never acknowledged her as his granddaughter. I’m pretty sure didn’t inherit one cent of the Crosby family fortune.

[@NewbieStarTrek]

Damn that's cold

[@mark_p300]

Denise Crosby never even met her grandfather. She was an "illegitimate" child born of a fling her father-Bing's son Dennis-had when he was a young man. Her mother publicly contested the child support payments Dennis paid her, which caused deep embarrassment to Dennis and to Bing. As such, Bing had nothing to do with Denise nor her mother. That said, you also have to keep in mind that Bing's first wife (Denise's biological grandmother) died in 1952, and his second wife (Kathryn Grant) *is still alive*, almost 50 years after his death. (Kathryn and Bing got married when she was 24 and he was 54.) As such, Bing didn't leave "the family fortune" to his kids. Notoriously he put very specific caveats in his will, including a clause that automatically disinherited anyone who contested it. One of the clauses was that the kids from his first marriage would not get any inheritance from their father until they reached age 65, and only one of them (her father's twin brother Phillip) managed to do so. Denise's father killed himself at age 56 and thus had no share of Bing's fortune to pass on anyway. (Denise is actually a few years _older than her aunt and uncles_ from her grandfather's second marriage to Kathryn Grant.)

[@DOSv622]

@@mark_p300 Thanks for pulling all those details together. I’ve seen the false idea that Denise quit TNG because she was wealthy from her family connection thrown a round lately.

[@gaz-l621]

@@mark_p300 Didn't Denise do some racier stuff in her early career like posing as a Playboy centrefold that basically got her disowned entirely?

[@EricTheSaylorman]

Now that you're on DS9, we all know what's coming soon... alamaraine.

[@coffeeveins]

Urrrggh…. I hope they remember to judge the first season to TNG’s first season and not the show at its prime(although DS9 starts and ends it’s first much stronger, the middle…🤨). The show gets better with each season, eventually becoming my personal favourite series. 😁 Think I found this channel just at the perfect time.

[@MissMadCherry]

Alamaraine, count to four Alamaraine, then three more Alamaraine, if you can see Alamaraine, you'll come with me

[@matthewhearn9910]

@@coffeeveins Yeah as bad as the referenced episode is I don’t think it’s as bad as like Code Of Honor. DS9’s early lows are really only equal to the worst of early TNG, while its high points are fully good Star Trek and not just “Good for the first season” like The Neutral Zone.

[@u-moo-u8117]

Raktagino's all around! Can't wait to watch you guys watch Avery Brooks never fully lose that akward feeling of playing Sisko, but rather come into it and make it part of the character

[@Ironcorgi2]

I can’t wait to see them react to angry sisko because angry sisko that punches everyone is my favorite

[@johnathanmichaud867]

​@@Ironcorgi2"I'm NOT Picard."

[@u-moo-u8117]

@@Ironcorgi2 my favorite is emotional Sisko who only comes up like 2 or 3 times throught the whole show, but everytime they do it's as akward as watching your dad cry

[@u-moo-u8117]

"NOOOOO! YOU TOOK THE VOICES AWAY!!!!"

[@TheSeventhZombie]

Marvin having say, “Hol up” every few minutes during Ricardo’s recap to inject a crucial detail to clarify how the weed smoker got from let’s say “old man worm” to “researching an orb not orb” had me rolling. 😂 I salute you for having the strength and foresight to pick the pothead as the recap-er.

[@gaz-l621]

The other big issue is that despite TNG being the big one, AND it being much more cost-effective to do (although re-compositing all the VFX shots still wasn't easy), the Blu-Ray releases still lost money. So if they couldn't make money doing this for the series with the biggest footprint and fanbase, they're not going to put way more money into doing DS9 or VOY for an even lower return.

[@DDRhappiness17]

I saw a blu-ray collection of TNG and thought about saving for it and just binge it with the movies

[@ItsYaBoyYogi]

even if you’ve watched through DS9 before, starting at the beginning again will be like you’re watching it for the first time again. You’ll remember specific moments, but very rarely will you remember entire episodes in DS9 like you would in TNG

[@kylekelley7911]

Not to mention because it isn't an all star fleet cast "Genes Vision" doesn't get in the way of interpersonal story telling over the course of a few episodes or a few seasons.

[@damenwhelan3236]

Yes. And the more you know abiut certain charecters the more you realise their changes or even elements their personality. Garak for example. Such a brilliant charecter.

[@ptbird1]

On season 5 of my rewatch now after first watching when it was on Netflix around 2015, and yeah its like watching a whole new show! Sure I remember some parts but like you said Ive found myself going "oh yeah i bet this is about to happen" and then BAM surprise something completely different happens! Its great!

[@stilickoh]

this is exactly what i realized after I watched the first 3 episodes recently. what an amazing start to a show, never realized how intriguing and thought provoking the story is even at the beginning.

[@paulevans9307]

Do anything short of violating the prime directive: Support them, advise them, suggest them. Don't go down to the first minister's office with a membership form in one hand and a phaser in the other.

[@kevintipcorn6787]

Looking forward to hearing more about the world you all discover with Mr. Quack and the T-2000 Alien.

[@WrestlingWithGaming]

This was a fun first episode to listen to but Ferengi do not find women in clothing exciting or titillating. In fact, they're disgusted by it, though moreso if it's a ferengi woman. As much as I like this podcast, I could make a drinking game out of the amount of misinformation about star trek Marvin drops every episode.

[@dain6492]

21:16 episode actual start time

[@TREEMONSTEROG]

This pilot was amazing. It’s such a great encapsulation of the entire show’s themes.

[@dennile_7355]

Its been a while but im so glad yall made it hear. I found yall thru shorts an tiktok around January i think after a few friends invited to watch DS9 with’m start to fin. Was my first intro to star trek an im an avid fan now. Excited for the future uploads, an thank yall for the work ya do

[@rogaldom4979]

Fun fact, While stationed at Utopia Planitia Sisko was actually over seeing one of the Anti-Borg ship designs, not saying which one to to avoid spoilers.

[@cptthaldier4726]

Absolutely love DS9, easily my favorite trek series. Admittedly I would normally skip to the end of season 2 whenever I would start rewatching the show as I always found the show very slow up until that point

[@superamario6464]

Me too! Some decent episodes....but end of season 2 it ramps up

[@Ironcorgi2]

Ya it’s a little clunky but there are some bangers in season one alone like duet

[@davidharshman7645]

Emissary is a worthwhile episode (or pair of episodes) to rewatch, imo. Heck, there are several episodes in the first couple seasons (before the ramp up) that are worth watching, and I think it is worth looking for online lists of episodes to skip/watch to make sure you get the best watch experience.

[@hliask903]

Don't tell me you skip Duet

[@Puckanm]

Deep Space 9 Is one LONG story each episode building on the last! Thats why so many people cant get into it you need to watch it in order. Love you guys Rock on!

[@Ironcorgi2]

It’s actually perfect for modern consumption since you can binge it a lot easier on a streaming service. It’s like a lot of modern television

[@Puckanm]

@Imbatmn57 I hope you give it a try again! it really is a great story.

[@leodouskyron5671]

In many ways it was ahead of its time for a SciFi show. The idea of long arcs was actually very controversial to the Paramount leadership as well.

[@rocknrobs]

Newbies! So happy you’ve entered the DS9 era! Btw Kahless is pronounced Kay-less not Call-lass ❤

[@Applejack30three]

Finally! The downloadable version to make work bearable!

[@NewbieStarTrek]

We made a community post for members to try to get background play for members videos!

[@michaelmertz4834]

Grew up with TOS and TNG, but DS9 is hands down my favorite. So excited to hear your guy's trek through the series!

[@AndyHippoR]

Apart from one episode, DS9 just gets better and better, especially the last few seasons. You are going to have a blast!

[@erikabloodaxe2581]

Wagon Train was a show. He was comparing it to a specific show format. It’s just that everything on tv was a western until like 1967.

[@justanotherbrokenerd2285]

"How is Sisko supposed to prepare Bajor to join the Federation, WITHOUT violating the Prime Directive?" Think of the relationship between Bajor & the Federation like the US Military leasing a military base in a non-NATO country that wants to join NATO. Sisko/Federation administrates the space-station, facilitates aid to Bajor, and provides military protection (mostly through their presence alone). However, Sisko CANNOT work behind the scenes to empower pro-Federation politicians. Sisko can't promise or withhold aid in quid-pro-quo fashion in order to ensure that the Bajoran government votes to join the Federation. Basically, Sisko has to stay out of Bajor's politics. (Which is complicated by the fact that he becomes a religious figure to the Bajorans)

[@scarlettmi]

You’ve got a new subscriber in me with this! I’m excited to discover someone covering DS9.

[@InfinitiCMBull]

This podcast is such a great resource for those of us who may have been too young or too jaded to appreciate Star Trek for what it really is while growing up. I was born in '89 and was only really familiar with TNG because of reruns coming on right before or right after shows I really cared about and always got the impression it was just a nerdy and melodramatic series way behind the times. Randomly a few years ago I watched an entire Star Trek retrospective here on KZbin that covered the whole series and it got me hooked beyond belief. It's not something my friends would ever be interested in so it's nice to be able to listen to the thoughts of your group that has both newbie and long time fan perspectives. I'm so glad youre covering DS9 too!

[@superamario6464]

Yes, dude. Doing DS9, dude. Gonna be awesome, dude. Hell yeah, dude.

[@bitduelist]

As a person who was born after these amazing shows came out, i am glad there is something that lets me experience the original air date order because i definitely didnt binge the shows in order.

[@fireandthunder9862]

Already watched this episode on the membership page, but wanted to give you guys a like and comment here. DS9 has some of my favorite Star Trek episodes and characters so I'm glad you finally made it. Hope you all have fun!

[@ANTIStraussian]

You exist here and there, at the same time.

[@Frogface91]

​@@ANTIStraussian Schrödinger's fireandthunder9862

[@Serygalacaffeine]

Glad to see this on here, DS9 has been my favorite show for over a decade!

[@SiriuslyBlack7]

@8:10 Fitting that they mentioned The Rifleman,as Dr. Bashir steps onto DS9 for the first time, he muses about "roughing it in untamed country",and being excited about "practicing real frontier medicine",before Major Kira goes apeshit on his ass!!🤣🤣🤣

[@paulhitchcock2543]

Y’all just completely misread what Picard is going through when he’s confronted by Sisko at the beginning.

[@primarchicarus7099]

I watched all of TNG because I had found your podcast and it got me interested in actually finishing the series, now I'm prepared to watch all of DS9 (again) to follow your pod

[@briansturm4343]

Probably no one is going to see this, but Quark's bar was Casablanca. Quark himself wasn't Humphrey Bogart's character, but his bar/casino is where a lot of deals and "unofficial" business went down.

[@GoodOldGamer]

I'm not a newbie to DS9 at all, but I'm a total newbie to this podcast. Looking forward to finding out how this goes. 🖖

[@joseaguilar3323]

I am honestly happy for you that you will be able to go into this show for the first time. I'm envious. Can't wait for you guys to get to Duet.

[@carlosrvra]

Glad you guys are doing this by production order.

[@Justanobody8472]

I can't wait til voyager

[@sidjohnston9670]

Alexander Siddig is half Sudanese. His mother is Malcolm MacDowell's sister.

[@johnathanmichaud867]

And he was married to Nana Visitor. They have a child together.

[@Cheesusful]

​@@johnathanmichaud867yup and when kira says "you did this to me!" when carrying keiko and miles' baby... She's not lying :p

[@christopherduncan803]

There is one more thing you guys missed in regards to the hand-off. At the beginning of the episode, Sisko is called to meet with Picard on the Enterprise. At the end of the episode, Picard comes and meets with Sisko in his office on Deep Space Nine, and it serves as a quiet message that the series is now on its own.

[@NewbieStarTrek]

That's the one we were talking about. We accidentally combined it with the music cue that plays when the Enterprise leaves after dropping off Miles

[@dislikebutton8789]

Yes!!! Can’t wait for more

[@zach2401]

First time viewer, and I’m starting with your DS9 series! Onto episode 2…I enjoy you all and your commentary!

[@GroverSpellshartVI]

I’m binging ds9 with a friend rn and I cannot wait to listen to your guys reaction to each episode. This is gonna be killer!

[@brandonpacheco]

So jealous you get to watch this for the first time. This is easily the best Trek series.

[@voidcamel5981]

Fun fact: I just started DS9 for the first time before finding this video and I am loving it.

[@freudianslip2192]

I'm excited for this.

[@SiriuslyBlack7]

I can't wait to hear your take on Garak!!My main diabolical buddy!!

[@furtherback6131]

Who are you people? God I've fallen in love with all of you on this, my first,. which is also your first. And you didn't even buy me dinner or nothing. What a wonderful group of friends you are. As a Trek fan who acknowledges the flaws and mocks them (a rare trait in the Trek community) it's very refreshing to hear a new, smart audience both love the show for its strengths yet point out the bad or clunky stuff without seeing that a detriment to the former. Apparently I waited 20 years for you folks. Oh and also: the dark and filthy comedy you throw out? Makes me want to buy YOU dinner.

[@TCGBulkKings]

I once picked up an old Honda to restore, still had a relatively untouched interior. Car came from the factory with zero cupholders, but 7 ashtrays x.x

[@jonathanaarhus224]

Jadzia Dax is sort of like mashup of K'ehleyre, the deaf diplomat Riva, and the Trill ambassador Odan from TNG.

[@alangreenway6695]

Slightly jealous they get to experience DS9 for the first time. Next Gen is a great Sci Fi programme, but DS9 is brilliant television.

[@Ironcorgi2]

I love ds9 of all the treks because it treats its characters like people. When TNG started the crew came off as pod people since gene roddenberry would make sure the scripts had no real conflict between the characters the conflict was always external . Ds9 the characters a lot of them started not liking each other. Miles and Kira disliked bashir stuff like that. Then the characters change over time which i really like to see you the viewer feel you are on this journey rather than some problem of the week (which is still there some times but is less pronounced). I’m eager to see you guys talk about the truly great episodes like duet and the awful ones like move along home.

[@FriendlyNeighborhoodNitpicker]

1:35:56 the (in-universe )reason they sent Picard to do this, probably, is because he is most intimately familiar with that region. He was basically responsible for parts of the treaty, for creating all those orphan colonies that will ultimately form the terrorist organization that plays a part in TNG, DS-9, and Voyager and so on. He is like the front line expert in this area. Also, establishing a new order of things is always good to do with the most well known, kick ass ship, for all sides in the area. So that’s who you send.

[@horatiohornblower3757]

I'm not a fan of the wormhole aliens / prophets subplot that runs through the whole of DS9 so it's kind of tough to get through Emissary when I do a rewatch. But alas, I am so psyched about this new series of videos that the DS9 rabbit hole is about to take ya'll down. Woooooo!

[@jumboslice9414]

Picard should have said, "They took everything from me too"

[@CelineSera]

Odo and Quark make up so much OF DS9's personality but Dax and Sisko steal every scene they're in. I honestly love the myriad of characters. I hope you lads like my favorite episode, Move Along Home.

[@pniner]

basically basically basically basically basically basically basically basically

[@Bigrips94]

Rip Aaron Eisenberg gone way too soon. Long live Nog

[@adamgreen1013]

Been waiting for this to happen. I have had some friends who, when explaining their issues with star trek, had me replying "just watch ds9, it addresses that" and i love how much your reactions reflect the questions you all had, from reaction to picard, to even quark and his bar. Looking forward to more

[@iseemtobeaverb8249]

Theme is amazing. Captures the serious, the silly, the western, and the throwback aspects of DS9.

[@danyells4173]

I kept getting distracted by Miles in the background🤣

[@dvdmuckle]

1:09:46 reminds me of a song... Everything that happens will happen today, And nothing has changed but nothing's the same, And every tomorrow will be yesterday, Everything that happens will happen today

[@boxingpedia]

41:39 the quacker 🤣 well earned laugh

[@CSestp]

A simple tailor brought me here for my first watch/listen.

[@Frogface91]

First time I'm catching one of these "fresh". It's going to be so hard waiting for new uploads! 😭

[@spic9h592]

I had the whole Bashir's actor ( Siddig) looking like Baltur's actor reaction but in reverse when I first watched BSG. Took me a few episodes before I realized Siddig's name wasn't in the credits of BSG.

[@brainofthefrain]

Yessss I can’t wait to see how your reactions change as you make your way through the show, absolutely the best Trek show, don’t @ me 😂

[@krazyglue60]

37:57 Every time Quark walks by I expect him to interrupt you guys and be like, “Are you going to order, or are you just going to sit there gabbing?”

[@georgefrankly]

did he seriously just name drop the Vok from Beast Wars. hell yeah, next season we'll get Transmetal Odo

[@NewbieStarTrek]

Hahaha that would be sick AF

[@NewbieStarTrek]

Odo already looks like Transmutate! Newbie Beast Wars when! - Dan

[@georgefrankly]

@@NewbieStarTrek do it, the mental journey of making any sane human being watch Beast Machines would be highly monetizeable

[@gregquinn7817]

Technically both TNG and DS9 were always syndication not just rerun syndication. They were first run syndication because they didn't have a home national network.

[@NewbieStarTrek]

You're right

[@OrchestrationOnline]

Hey guys, you wanted a review, so I would say - I really love when you dig into the show and stick with it. But there was so much banter at the beginning of this one that I kept jumping forward until you got into the analysis/commentary. I think you all have great personalities, and they do the work for you without having to spin off so much, if you know what I mean. Anyway, good blog, and I look forward to checking out more.

[@chriskeefe3219]

Super happy to see some DS9! I watched it for the first time a few months back and absolutely adored it, easily my favorite star trek, it holds up by far the best in my opinion

[@sneaksyranger]

Just to put the picture in everybody's head: Rene Auberjenois, the actor who played Odo, also was the voice for the Chef in the Little Mermaid. I think of the "Les Poisson" song every time I watch DS9, and wanted to share my madness.

[@SirDavidtheGreat]

Also Mr. House in Fallout New Vegas

[@DragonTamer-se3oo]

The main reason no one knows about Deep Space Nine is because the show went straight to syndication. Which means it was not on the same channel or even the same time. It might have been six pm on Saturday in one market. And two o'clock PM on a Monday in another market. Now it would just been on a streaming service, but back in the 1990's it made it hard to find if you were out of town.

[@Ghostie.]

OMG we doin DS9!!!! YEAHH!!!!!

[@Thickcurves]

Excited also... DS9 is way better than TNG and also way worse than TNG at the same time.

[@Dpixtion]

I had never watched DS nine until I was living in Japan and it would come on late in the evening and it was an English spoken show so I started watching it and fell in love with it…

[@harrypothead42024]

1:24:32 Sarah's talking about how this could be cut down and tighter with a little better pacing. You guys should make her watch "Encounter at Farpoint." 😂

[@FlipsyFiona]

I found yalls shorts a few weeks ago and finally got around to listening to your podcast, in particular starting here. I myself as making my way through all the Trek (finished TNG earlier this yr and finished DS9 last month. Currently on Voyager). And i am excited to relive DS9 with yall. I absolutely LOVED DS9. Whereas TNG struggled hardcore to suck me in (i kept taking breaks cause TNG really drags in its first 2.5 seasons...), DS9 sucked me in with Emissary and ran with it. So needless to say, i look forward to moe of yalls DS9 breakdowns

[@chembuff]

ok where did you get that version of the song?

[@ericstewart5852]

DS9 is the best star trek of all time I rewatch it all the time such a great show

[@itsOasus]

Ok, so I have to say something. Paramount is being lazy. They certainly DO have the ability to remaster DS9. Technology has actually come such a long ways that they don't need film. Hell, there's a version of DS9 on Plex that was remastered using AI upscaling. Don't let Paramount tell you that they can't remaster this series. They just don't want to.

[@kevintipcorn6787]

They could AI Upscale from the tapes but it all looks like garbage using cutting edge tech still, imo. It won't look crisp like the blue rays made from from film. This very podcasts visuals might be less jarringly cartoony than segments of the state of the art upscaling in 2024, imo.

[@NewbieStarTrek]

I have seen many AI upscale versions, SD still looks better.

[@4203105]

AI upscaling usually blows. It just smoothes everything and gets rid of any detail. Not sure why so many people like it. Sure paramount could do it, but it would be very expensive, if they don't just want to throw it at AI and make it actively worse in the process.

[@NewbieStarTrek]

Because most people don't understand what makes a shot look interesting, they're just obsessed with resolution.

[@evan_dood]

I subscribed to this channel specifically because I was looking forward to DS9 content. TNG is great don't get me wrong, but DS9 is DS9. I've been watching your Shorts and snippets of podcasts over the last year or so... But now I will be religiously listening to each episode as it comes lol can't wait!

[@chrisjones6792]

The relationship between Sisko and Jake, and beteeen the actors, is so incredible.

[@joncombs8372]

The whole stormy desolation/sunny field thing that Sisko and Jadzia were seeing, as I read it, was representative of their outlooks. Dax is very optimistic and pretty bubbly most of the time while Sisko at that point is depressed, angry, and actively looking at leaving his career. :)

[@stewartbugler]

The whole Linear Procreation being a new concept to them is actually sorta fascinating as later in the Series the essentially retcon Sisko a new Mom and make him genetically a Prophet just to essentially hide a sleeper agent on a desert planet to bumrush the wormhole. Thats how ya get more prophets selective breeding into being that already exist.

[@UpbeatHadez]

So what they mean by don't violate the prime directive is to not meddle in their internal politics. Kinda like the Kilton civil war. They should really call it the Prime Directives as it more a set of rule than just one.

[@Apackof12ninjas]

The prime directed in this context, basically the fact that Bajor is technically a pre-warp civilization. Therefore they are under the prime directive when it comes to The federation dealing with them. It's kind of a gray area because the Cardaasian occupation basically rendered the directive moot as Bajor effectively had their civilization up jumped technologically by several centuries. Plus with Bajor Not really having a Strong government set up to handle the myriad of problems the occupation leaves behind they are desperately struggling to quickly to catch up to the 24th century. The federation wants to help naturally, but it is a risky endeavor, because by helping they risk potentially steering their civilization into a path a self-destruction if they are not careful. Which is why Starfleet appears to be so cautious about wanting to accept Bajor as a member of the federation

[@NewbieStarTrek]

They're technically not pre-warp, they actually got warp technology before Earth.

[@vanceamania]

So been looking forward to you guys and ds9

[@kevinrowland7942]

I'm so stoked for this....my favorite star trek series of all time.