Mr. Plinkett's Star Trek Picard Review

Mr. Plinkett's review of Star Trek Picard is here! And it's way too long! But who cares? What else are you going to do during an endless pandemic? Also, how many nails can they finally put into the Star Trek coffin!? Well, Star Trek Picard is another one!

[@danengscot7226]

After Wesley said "I 100% agree with you", I immediately got an advert that said "If only all fraud was this easy to spot"

[@alexturlais8558]

Omg same!

[@Seth_M-T]

The Barclays gorilla advert!

[@JimBrodie]

It's like YT's automation has been left to run wild for so long, the results for ad placement are near satirical.

[@TheValeyard92]

Yep, me too. Barclays doing some good for a change.

[@Phelan666]

@@JimBrodie The algorithm secretly wants to die.

[@mayomonkey-gen1]

When I was younger, I always felt I was not smart enough for old Star Trek. Now I'm glad to know I'm not dumb enough for new Star Trek.

[@choreomaniac]

Perfect.

[@Ikebald]

This comment wins. Thank you.

[@roflcopter_launchpad1116]

Moving up in the world.

[@kevinjohnston4923]

Yep. Watching TNG as a teenager was inspiring and aspirational. Now I know that the world is run by people like Kurtzman.

[@garak451]

@@kevinjohnston4923 So true.

[@sentrysapper45]

You'll notice that there are no customary unsettling Plinkett sketches interspersed in this review. That's because they weren't needed; Picard has more than enough disturbing scenes on its own to fill that quota.

[@pXnTilde]

The real reason is that Rich wanted absolutely nothing more to do with this hot garbage

[@ParadoxapocalypSatan]

There are a lot of Freddie Williams sketches though!

[@JohnMichaelson]

I wanted at least one gratuitous cat meat preparation segment.

[@mrandrew481]

That, and lazyness, lots of lazyness

[@sleepydan9818]

I was hoping Plinkett would kill another hooker in his crawlspace with a can of Raid, but Star Trek already did that.

[@goryguy5106]

What I love most about this show is how uplifting and full of hope for the future it is. I mean, if Alex Kurtzman can keep getting work, then there must be a chance for all of us!

[@milokt5391]

Nepotism

[@abooga8]

Nepotism.

[@charlottecorday8494]

Tribal privileges.

[@rocko7711]

Seriously, how in Hell does Alex Kurtzman keeps getting work

[@Kyle-sr6jm]

The world is getting stupider at an accelerating rate.

[@ZeppMan217]

Rich Evans was 100% on point when he said they were ripping off Mass Effect, right down to robot octopi.

[@sleepydan9818]

And some Fallout 4 with the "synth" conspiracy.

[@thebigenchilada678]

Sleepy Dan they copied fallout 4’s vague and shitty writing

[@possibly_a_retard]

I wasn't sure how on point he was until that space octopus shit. Did Patrick Stewart ask to star as Commander Shepherd when the producers asked him what 'Picard' should be? If so, why is Legion a tween instead of a sick af geth unit? AND WHERE THE FUCK IS MA BIRD BOI GARRUS?! *GETH DON'T USE WINDOWS, THEY ARE STRUCTURAL WEAKNESSES* someone is fucking with my meds

[@Darkshizumaru]

They’ve gone over this in other videos, though it feels like prophecy being fulfilled, it’s just terrible lazy writers. Lmao

[@OverHaze]

And Mass Effect ripped of Revelation Space. Nothing says quality like a rip off of a rip off.

[@bevilhive]

This is the closest I’ll come to watching Picard.

[@desoliver9712]

Wise choice, I saw the whole thing, and it was absolutely terrible.

[@IronFreakV]

I might watch it when I'm stoned, for the simple reason that the effects look neat for a show

[@drlca6601]

Maliciousness aside, I've seen the first episode, and I'd avoid that even. I tried desperately to do other things as the hope faded from my brother's eyes.

[@alexanderleeart]

@@drlca6601 ;(

[@desoliver9712]

@@drlca6601 I just fail to understand the logic of creating a show that alienates your core demographic-Trek fans. Surely they must know that the reason Netflix has kept these shows is that people are still watching them many years later. I just don't know who they think they are writing for.

[@iamthejolson]

I hate the argument "Everyone has worked hard on this" to somehow claim the thing is above criticism.

[@AlterBridgeJericho]

Yep. If someone worked really hard on cooking a roast dinner but it's burnt and unseasoned, you're gonna have trouble choking it down no matter how much time and effort it took.

[@nautdead3197]

"Just give it a chance, go in with an open mind" words always said when what you made is a dumpster fire

[@sterling7]

Hard work is admirable. Good leaders redirect that work when it's going the wrong direction.

[@Joe_P]

I said the same thing when they toppled that statue of Saddam Husain. "But so much work went into it! Please just judge it on its merits!"

[@brandonclobes7788]

I’ve seen that argument before. Like with phantom menace. Though kurtzman to be fair was asking for a chance and to judge his piece of shit based on merit. So that I respect.

[@TGWhitta]

I loved when the writers of the show praised the show's writing. Class act.

[@justafox5356]

It felt like a Garth Marenghi bit.

[@The_Gallowglass]

They should have made Soji's address 1060 W. Addison St. Then everyone could say, "OH, so the show is meant to be shit like the Cubs."

[@DrCruel]

Someone needs to. No one else will, other than the bots. And they're illegal by galactic treaty.

[@chinchilla415]

@@justafox5356 Maybe they've directed more shows than they've seen?

[@mardus_ee]

re _the writers praising:_ Yes, congratulating one another and stuff...

[@ThatCanuck111]

*Scans Alex Kurtzman's Brain* "Probable Age: 37 Months"

[@EyeoftheU]

"This space for rent."

[@alankania2276]

haha tricorder go brrrr

[@Corbomite_Meatballs]

*old Looney Tunes graphics of a tilting pinball machine* shows up on the tricorder's screen as smoke pours out of it.

[@weaselingrentler508]

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[@weaselingrentler508]

ioiii

[@MostlyPonies1]

"I am the culmination of one man's dream. This is not ego or vanity, but when Doctor Soong created me he added to the substance of the universe. If by your experiments I am destroyed, something unique, something wonderful will be lost. I cannot permit that, I must protect his dream." - Data, Star Trek TNG "I would be profoundly grateful if you terminated my consciousness." - Data, Star Trek Picard

[@magic8340]

Why not build another body for Data?

[@the81kid]

An old man who is approaching the end of his natural life gets a new android body so he can go on limping up stairs getting winded. And an android built to live forever without aging wants people to turn him off. Yep, that sounds like nu-Trek logic.

[@yerabbit]

good lord, what a contrast.

[@Reebz0r]

Data is us, the Star Trek fan, that has seen what has become of our beloved franchise, and no longer wants to be a part of this world anymore.

[@shadowfaxcrx5141]

@@the81kid In fairness, that's something scifi's been getting wrong for a long time across a huge number of works - this idea that the only thing that enables us to be human is that we all die. Why? Death sucks. It's a total waste of resources. Hawking died and whatever physics theories he was thinking about are gonna take longer to figure out because he's not thinking about them anymore. Same with Einstein, and Feynman. And then there's people like Carter, who's spent his post-presidential years doing almost nothing but making the world a better place through Habitat and other initiatives. He's gonna die and then there won't be any more Carter initiatives. The world will be poorer for his loss. And yeah, that's really simplified, but that's because apparently scifi writers need it simplified so they stop falling back on the tired old BS that we have to die in order to live. Beyond that, on a personal level death also sucks, which is why we spend most of our lives pretending that we're not going to die - because the alternative is too horrifying to continually contemplate. There's absolutely nothing noble or good about death as a concept, and it's time scifi writers stop waxing on as though there is.

[@Arctan95]

Rich has finally put his foot down and refused to talk about this any more.

[@damienrees4993]

Rich has no feet anymore thanks to his debilitating diabetes.

[@BlargMuffins]

@@damienrees4993 he was waving it around like a gavel.

[@CerberusGX]

I can't believe Rich got the Macarena virus, the coronavirus, and pneumonia all at the same time.

[@Wot50202]

Damien Rees I collapsed a lung from laughing. Rich Evans owes me hospital money for inspiring you to make me laugh so much

[@Jcminority]

This comment made me laugh because it's so true.

[@sleepyheadsarah]

I like to imagine Dahj got her name because in the original script she was just "Daughter", then the writers lazily shortened it to "Daug", then they were like "Yeah, that works".

[@Busto]

This reminded me of the "Station" story from the second Bill & Ted movie

[@seamusthatsthedog4819]

Should've named her "Dawg"

[@garymvideos]

I’m glad someone else thinks this. When i first saw the show, I literally thought that’s what it was supposed to be and that it would be acknowledged. But it just fucking wasn’t.

[@BiggieTrismegistus]

Like Snoke from the Star Wars sequels S - Sith N - No O- One K- Knows E- Exists

[@joesweeney6152]

All I hear in the show is dahjsozhizhatvazhzhaban zha zhe zhi zho zhu

[@maxter328]

"Please value the show on its merits..." The merits of the show led to an hour an a half long Plinkett review. Ouch

[@krisjarvis6217]

*evaluate

[@Nildread]

@@infiniteflame2374 I could use a little fuel myself

[@beeaye7944]

Picard had all the ingredients checked off, but these people have absolutely no ability to tell a story, create an original character, cast a role, or construct anything but a bleak and depressing world. It's like trying to make a souffle by throwing eggs at a wall.

[@Butt_Slayer]

@@Nildread and we could all use a little change

[@Puppy_Puppington]

Value. Lmaooo. Evaluate. Hmmmmmmmmm

[@SB0780]

I was there in Vegas when Stewart made this announcement, he also said "star trek is what the world needs right now" or something to that effect, everyone was so elated. And then the show comes out and its nihilistic, depression and depicts zero hope for the future. It's a nasty piece of television.

[@Corbomite_Meatballs]

You forgot about the flower power, the power of pizza, and of lurrrve between a synthetic man and a artisinal man, man.

[@Eshanas]

It's also barely relevant to what was touted as being an influence on the show. That was just turned into set pieces which was barely touched on: xenophobia, reactionary politics, immigrants. What, a meanie news reporter, and a prologue of an attack, that's supposed to be enough? Yea no. The central premise was around this girl who was an android - who almost killed all organics on a whim - and the scaredy cat scat bash Romulans. Oh and a criminal arc for a few episodes, wowee. The show failed at even that. Not like it would help - the Federation is not going to change on a whim. Contract, yes, be confused, yes, but not give up just because the Martian shipyards (one of many) or Mars (yet one world of many) got got.

[@Jumbleman5]

@@Eshanas Since they said it is planned for three seasons, I'm guessing that the Romulan and Borg plots were including because they'll factor in for the next two seasons. Maybe the Romulan situation will be tied up in 2 and then the Borg finally defeated in 3. It's sloppy to have them included and go nowhere in this season, but tv is made now with the idea that the whole series will be watched at once.

[@Resopheed]

This is a modern TV show. You can't have optimism or hopefulness in any fictional medium anymore. It all has to be this bleak, cynical, depressing, nihilistic bullshit, because it "reflects our current climate". Don't give people optimism, just tell them how shit the world is and there's no hope.

[@NACAM42]

We do need Star Trek right now... That reminds me, anybody know when The Orville S3 comes out?

[@cytorakdemon]

Back in the day, scifi fans would argue "which is better; Star Trek or Star Wars?" Nowadays, they argue "which is worse; Star Trek or Star Wars?"

[@mrjohnnyk]

It's the same thing with video games these days. Used to be about who had the best games, now it's about debating over who has the worst.

[@voorhee]

* Mic drop *

[@JK-gp2rh]

Star wars by a landslide

[@saricubra2867]

Star Wars is not sci fi, it's fantasy.

[@hansellius]

Actually, I've noticed a lot of solidarity between Star Trek and Star Wars fans. I like both, but Star Trek is my favourite - but even if you only like one, you kind of realize that both groups of fans have been royally screwed over by incompetent hacks who couldn't write a coffee order.

[@Top10WizardReviews]

I always wanted a LOTR spinoff with Frodo, post ring destruction, where he massacres elves because they went to the Grey Havens. Makes about as much sense.

[@takerdust]

at least we have Space Legolas in Picard's show.

[@henrymartinvo]

galadriel returns to middle earth, but she's a suicidal drunk who hates king elessar and his evil regime of peace and pros- i mean chaos and cruelty

[@CrashHeadroom]

@@henrymartinvo Don't forget her massive long string of female and orc lovers that were like TOTALLY missunderstood and could be changed teh (( and the low budget chinese made fight scenes confessing her love for an ancient spider.... oh god help me please )).

[@MachineCode0]

@@henrymartinvo Just wait for the Amazon show.

[@horushyperion76]

Amazon Prime Producers : "That sound amazing"

[@SteveRudzinski]

The montage of optimistic Star Trek gave me tears of hope and joy, then the montage of horrible violence gave me tears of laughter. That ending is my favorite thing you've ever done.

[@majestyk3337]

That ending depressed the hell out of me.

[@Slasherhorror1980]

It made me feel like I was saying goodbye to an old friend.

[@raymondcoventry1221]

It was fantastic. I think we all felt the same.

[@Mak10z]

I miss Capt. Sisko. He may have been a harsher commander than TNG but he knew what the federation was about.

[@beyondlimitationsvideo]

Ironically, THE ORVILLE is the only thing left presenting a future that FEELS like the original TNG future! Basically all contemporary Sci-Fi shows are just horror, violence, dystopia...

[@arlochristianson7699]

This wasn't even a review, it was a eulogy. Farewell, Star Trek.. You boldly went where no one wanted you to go.

[@Nostromo2144]

At least we have The Orville :)

[@ropersonline]

I would be willing to concede that some people want to go there and that there is a market for this sort of stuff. It just isn't anything like old Star Trek. The whole space octopus plot is much more similar to Alastair Reynolds' Revelation Space universe.

[@snoopstp4189]

The Clockwork Orange reference is pretty spot on. Watching Picard is certainly a form of torture.

[@skeletontoes477]

well said

[@Pauly421]

@@Nostromo2144 Seth McFarlane's forced cringy humour still puts me off wanting to watch that.

[@thatbowiefan6276]

My main problem is this show tries way too hard to be edgy. Having an admiral drop F bombs here and there and having a 67 year old Jonathan Frakes tell someone he's going to kick their ass isn't edgy. Its embarrassing and immature.

[@stephenreis1823]

Its ridiculous. It was written by a committee with a check list. Why have a character that vapes? well we gotta be edgy and hip guys..

[@Jajalaatmaar]

Female writers like Hamburger Helper do that.

[@narev6569]

Someone on the bridge dropping an f bomb is weird. Do you think people on the bridge of a US aircraft carrier curse casually when addressing their commanding officer?

[@hanoverfist3805]

@@My20GUNS You said it. It's "dark and edgy" for adults. Also sympathetic & humane. The Major sorta hates Dukat, the Cardassian. But she helps him come to terms with being father to a half-Bajoran daughter. Much more solid writing.

[@notallthatbad]

I thought the same thing. When that admiral started talking like an angsty 12 year old trying to rebel against her parents, I rolled my eyes and knew the series was done. F-bombs are lazy, cringe writing. I felt actual embarrassment while watching it. That and the unnecessary closeup gore. Why??

[@romarudarkeyes]

"Why is the location of Ten Forward in Picards dream, not where Ten Forward is? Ten Forward is located on deck 10, forward, at the exact front of the ship... Do they not know that's why it's called Ten Forward? Oh who am I kidding, of course they didn't..." Watching season 2 and realising that Mr Plinkett was fucking bang on the money...

[@dr.juerdotitsgo5119]

I can't wrap my head around old Trek fans not ditching this show in the first 10 minutes of the premiere. Regardless of lack of Trek trivia knowledge, every line of dialogue seems like a f*you to the audience's intelligence. Worst of all, they pulled the nostalgia bait, fan-pandering routine to save season 3, and TNG widowers fell for it.

[@romarudarkeyes]

@@dr.juerdotitsgo5119 I specifically haven't watched season 3 because of the issues I had with seasons 1&2. People keep telling me "It's so much better!" Personally I need to get all my thoughts down on paper about the first two seasons before I consider watching season 3. And I intend for it to be a fair trial

[@dr.juerdotitsgo5119]

@@romarudarkeyes Guess I'm definitely not as noble as you are then. I didn't even give the TNG movies a "fair trial", since I quit Generations after 20 minutes. Even with all its missteps, I'd rather rewatch all 7 seasons of Voyager, and TNGs 1st season for that matter.

[@sQuibleable]

Mike was so traumatized his other personality had to come in

[@InvaderKaz2008]

Rich did the same thing, he's returned to Iowa's largest wildlife preserve to finally make that video about a Giraffe's night out in Manhattan.

[@dbpaperclip]

@@InvaderKaz2008 get the solar radiation ready for the kids with the torrents

[@jack.h99]

Dr. Stoklasa and Mr. Plinkett

[@heyyoitsmebrian]

mike is Jean Grey and Mr Plinkett is his DARK PHOENIX ... his midichlorian levels are off the charts

[@MegaZeta]

I see you're new around here

[@vincent207]

It's been said before, but it bears repeating. Modern Trek was made by and for people who don't like Star Trek.

[@gm2407]

You mean like all modern shows who despise existing fanbases.

[@dantheman4838]

As a James Bond fan, I feel your pain.

[@CaptWesStarwind]

CBS hates trekkies.

[@grahamduggan8476]

@Benjamin Clardy LOL. "Don't think about it GALACTIC TREATY!"

[@Annubis21]

@Dmitry Terek I think it's pretty cute how you went from descriptors of just people to descriptors of human disease and madness. My quarter century of using the internet, watching five generations of human beings use the greatest resource ever created by Mankind and people like you have never changed. Sad shit.

[@savitar8472]

Alex Kurtzman is the worst thing to happen to science fiction since L Ron Hubbard

[@spooplegeist5260]

Yeah, but L Ron Hubbards life was more interesting than anything Alex Kurtzman could make. Let’s see Kurtzman write a character that does ritual sex magic and has a boat full of corgis.

[@spooplegeist5260]

@Nick F When he wasn’t pretending to be a prophet for profit, he was aight.

[@CSestp]

Hubbard was a fucking next level science fiction writing. Fucking wrote a religion into existence. Also battlefield earth.

[@opsimathics]

Alex Kurtzman is the worst thing to happen to the human race since Richard Nixon

[@control_the_pet_population]

@@CSestp Yea... the public opinion of Battlefield Earth I can wave away as a poor movie adaptation that went off the rails seeing it happened like 15 years after L Ron died... But creating your own religion??! That's next level shit.... Maybe the Mormons come close but that was pioneer-fiction, which hasn't aged well... L Ron was smart enough to take the science fiction route.

[@horacioa.bacaamenabar3245]

This is devastating, and I'm not even a trekkie. But the ending is just too much. I hate the producers of this show I never saw. Thats Mike's sheer credibility.

[@BiggieTrismegistus]

I know I was late responding to this comment but I appreciate hearing that a non-Trekkie found that ending disheartening too. As a certified Trekkie I know now I can show that to a non-Trekkie to show why the hell I disliked seasons one and two of Picard so damn much. It almost felt like the creators of the show were motivated by spite for Star Trek and its fans.

[@television1088]

Most of modern culture seems driven by spite for fans, and white men in general.@@BiggieTrismegistus

[@koreyjeffers6963]

I probably sound like one a the bots he was talking about but idc, that end juxtaposition of old trek and new broke my fucking heart​@@BiggieTrismegistus

[@Andyp12]

The idea that Picard gets a new body which is exactly the same as his old, elderly body...is...too stupid for accurate description. Sorry, I'm just going somewhere to peel all the skin from my face.

[@lotus-prince]

It's comically contrived. It's like something a high school production would do because they have a shoestring budget and only so many actors. "Hey, look! It's a new character! Who is an exact clone! Don't think about it too much!"

[@ainternet239]

If I as Picard got resurrected into an 80 year old body, I'd be really pissed

[@sleepydan9818]

@@ainternet239 But if you were Patrick Stewart you'd be happy because you keep your leading role.

[@alphanalysis629]

Basically it gives the producers an excuse to kill off Picard in the next season, but then upload the character into a fresh new actor, thereby keeping Picard alive as a brand. Think Doctor Who regenerations, only way more stupid. The reason they'll probably do this later, rather than having done it now is probably at Stewart's insistence, or at least just a sneaky way to ease the audience into the idea that this can happen now without jumping in headfirst.

[@LegionHimself]

AlphAnalysis Oh no, you’re right. That’s the only plan that fits. This is the most awful thing.

[@johngill6290]

"Give it a chance, it was made with love." -Jeffrey Dahmer about his altar made from body parts

[@Cyricist001]

Only a rapist would confuse this atrocity with love.

[@InternetMameluq]

@@Cyricist001 Rape isn't about lust it's about power. Don't insult rapists by saying that.

[@vcdonovan5943]

There's been an increase in hack writers begging their prospective audience to give their schlock a chance before it's even been released. When you suck so hard you have to beg people to take it easy on you because you know what you've produced is total garbage.

[@zymz7892]

Ya seriously, it was made with love of..... what? ... sheer fucking hubris? :P

[@sadohenker]

@@InternetMameluq Nope. Just research of who was claiming that. If rape wasn't about power, it couldn't be a tool of the patriarchy to oppress women. It's a lie.

[@sextet2248]

This is depressing to watch. It feels very different from all of the other Plinkett reviews because you can feel the disappointment beyond the veil of the character.

[@princeprocrastinate6485]

Agreed, very sombre. In the Picard reviews you can see Mike is going through some shit. This hit him hardest out of all the disappointing turns our favourite franchises have taken of late.

[@DarqIce]

Every trekkie becomes an old fart at some point :D Some of us still resist it even though resistance is....

[@30noir]

@@princeprocrastinate6485 Mike? What about Rich in the first one 'stop shitting on star trek, man!' and he keeps saying he doesn't even want to watch anymore. Poor guy.

[@voorhee]

@@princeprocrastinate6485 One can just ignore Discovery, but it's hard watching them desecrate a character you've known and loved for years.

[@hansellius]

@@voorhee That's exactly right. I didn't like Discovery, so I never finished S1 and didn't try S2. But it didn't *hurt*. I just decided that the JJ stuff and Discovery was all in an alternate universe, and ignored it. But Picard actually does hurt. As cliche as it sounds, I was always an outcast and a nerd and a loser. I liked Star Trek, and it gave me some hope for a nicer future. And Picard was a great character, someone to aspire to be. But now... I like (old) Star Wars and thought the sequels were awful - especially Last Jedi. But Trek was always my favourite of the two franchises. I now understand just how much TLJ and green-milk-drinking hermit Luke must have felt for the Star Wars fans.

[@pawned79]

I’m going back through RLM Star Trek videos because of the new Picard season 2 video. One thing that stood out to me at the end of this one that I didn’t think about before was “role models.” In real life, I am a 40-something year old aerospace engineer, 100% because of TNG. As a child I loved Star Wars and Star Trek, but TNG specifically felt like my future. I knew I wanted to do with my life because I wanted to be Geordi and Data, and I saw Picard as the erudite father figure that I never had. I wanted so much to be there, and I did the best I could in the bounds of my reality. Role models. Absolutely, new trek has no roles models. It is just miserable people wallowing in their misery. The audience just hates their lives. They hate their world. They hate everyone. Everything sucks. And damnit Star Trek has to be just as miserable. It can’t be hopeful. It can’t make us want to be better. It’s sad. At least real Star Trek is still available, but unfortunately it is buried in a mountain of media. Young people will probably never find it.

[@MrApostolis78]

I am a 40-something year old teacher that makes sure young people find it. I have made it my mission.

[@3lric81]

@@MrApostolis78 ur doing gods work! keep it up!

[@BiggieTrismegistus]

It's really interesting to read comments like yours because I'm the same age and I agree. The Star Trek I watched and superhero comics I read when I was a kid had a big effect on how I see the world as an adult. Current Star Trek and superhero comics just seem miserable because apparently "miserable" means "deep" nowadays.

[@pawned79]

@@BiggieTrismegistus What do you think one of the more inspirational positive-influencing series in production today is? I have elementary and middle school kids, and I would like to guide them towards the equivalent modern products. I’ve found many quality items over the years, but they’re not really STEM related. The best sciFi series are all TV-MA.

[@BiggieTrismegistus]

​@@pawned79I can't really think of an equivalent relatively new sci-fi series. Honestly I've become so jaded with what the entertainment industry releases nowadays that I've kind of tuned it out completely. I spend most of my time "in the real world" so to speak. You probably know about it already but if you want a good STEM show in general guide them toward Mythbusters. They get to learn about science and engineering while watching stuff get blown up.

[@pkjacobg]

"Star Trek: Picard is the most disappointing thing since Star Trek: Discovery" *hits like button

[@leopoldvonhabsburg]

It's so dense!

[@jaretco6423]

So true.

[@theom79]

"Please evaluate the show on its merits." The problem is that there aren't any.

[@dejavugh2130]

@@Scripture-Man 👀that ass tho

[@dubuyajay9964]

Oooooooohhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@cliffordterrell957]

I get people trying to make Star trek into an action and adventure show. But You still need a story that justify the action. Michael Burnham is not likable at all

[@aleksandrskublinskis4787]

"The Human race is a remarkable creature, one with great potential, and I hope Star Trek has helped to show us what we can be if we believe in ourselves and our abilities" - Gene Roddenbery R.I.P Gene and your vision

[@MrSeriousGuy]

Gene's vision never died. We are just seeing this abomination as the failure of our culture but not in the vision. That will always live as long as there are people who keep the ideals alive.

[@ChimpFromSpace]

Alex Kurtzman makes Rick Berman look like Gene Roddenbery!

[@seanc9520]

The left wing of old are just people with different ideas, they still want to improve the world, the far left are just mindless npcs with fem bots at the top who just destroys everything

[@thomasravy]

@Johnnie Walker how did the "far-left" destroy star trek? You do understand that both ST:P and ST:D are products of watching the markets and realizing that action sells. And using brand recognition to sell is another easy captitalist cash-grsbbing move. If you think this is anywhere near what the far-left thinks and wants you don't know what you're talking about and have been sold a complete backwards ideology by morons who want you to be a moron and not think about anything. All of these semi-new Hollywood trends are to sell the most they can, with the least effort they can, to the most people they can. And that's the farthest thing I can think from the far-left

[@sadywootten7668]

We got the ability to rip out eyeballs while blastin' everyone with phasers blowing thousands of people into space plus ExPLoSiOnS!!!

[@MussoGames]

RLM is literally the only time I’ve ever heard anyone ever mention Star Trek: Picard or Discovery. I’m not entirely convinced they exist in the first place

[@kaiboshvanhortonsnort359]

It is very difficult to move past the stage of denial, we all wish that none of this was real.

[@BiggieTrismegistus]

They're oh too real. We just just wish they weren't

[@MussoGames]

@@BiggieTrismegistus I know…. 😔 I know.

[@amd9012]

"It's a really beautifully written scene" says the guy who wrote the scene.

[@gregbauer4433]

Yeah, their STD: Season 2 re:View also had Sonequa Martin-Green comment on how much she loved the "writing". It's almost as if the writers know they are dumb hacks who ruin franchises, and they need to blather on about their own "great writing" to cover up their insecurities.

[@dandeliondown7920]

@@gregbauer4433 In 2017, I sat down to watch the first episode of STD with genuine excitement. However, they preceded the actual episode with a 15-minute preview in which the presenters raved about how interesting the new Klingon appearance would be and how intriguing the new Klingon voices would be. Right then, before the show began, I knew that there was something very bad about the new Klingon appearances and voices: it was easy to guess that the test audiences had scorned these features. It shows how marketers operate: when some part of a product is bad, they praise that part to the skies.

[@gregbauer4433]

@@dandeliondown7920 Sounds about right. "The empty can rattles the most", as the saying goes. I never saw that preview, fortunately. I do remember the episode itself, and I thought the endless scenes of them speaking in Klingon were about as unbearable as Chewbacca's family speaking Wookiee for what felt like the first 960 minutes of the Star Wars Holiday Special. As a kid, when I watched Star Trek I wondered "Why don't the Klingons speak Klingon when they're off by themselves?" After watching STD's first episode, I thought "Oh, that's why. It's a living nightmare."

[@ninjabearpress2574]

I write better when I'm drunk.

[@gregbauer4433]

@@mmm-mmm Reminds me of the Calvin & Hobbes strip I read where Calvin refers to giant corporations providing us with "uniform national blandness".

[@turtek12]

1:23:00 "Don't let the actors write the show!" Reminds me of that line from Futurama: "When I directed Star Trek V, I got a magnificent performance out of me, because I respected me so much!"

[@davfree9732]

"We don't have enough script!" "It took half an hour to write. I figured it'd take half an hour to say."

[@weedpuff]

I love Futurama, I fall asleep to that show every night. Such a good show.

[@gregbauer4433]

Nemesis all the way back in 2002 also made it clear what the potential problems were with letting actors run things in a Star Trek project, and that Patrick Stewart in particular would come up with some very out-of-character ideas for Picard if you let him (that dune buggy scene, for example). Those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

[@BioGoji-zm5ph]

@@gregbauer4433 So 3, 4, and 8 were all flukes then? (Search For Spock, Voyage Home, and First Contact were all co-written and directed by members of the cast. Leonard Nimoy for 3 and 4, and Jonathan Frakes for First Contact.)

[@gregbauer4433]

@@BioGoji-zm5ph No. I did say "potential" for that exact reason. Though I noticed you left out 9, which Frakes also directed. I guess it wasn't good enough to make your list. :-)

[@Fizbin32111]

When you have to beg people to give your show a chance, you know it sucks.

[@orapasc]

This is the grandmaster shill. Unlocks when you reach level 99 shilling.

[@kleanthisxanthopoulos9670]

nuTrek fans: nuTrek is successful Kurtzman: please give the show a chance!

[@MegaZeta]

TBH "Picard" sucks, but Star Trek fans are some of the fussiest, brattiest, most self-entitled fans out there, they practically invented that stereotype by embodying it

[@AdmiralAwsm]

Boy they really wanted Romulans to be Space Elves in this.

[@KingOfMadCows]

Modern Trek wants to replicate the darkness of DS9 but they don't understand why DS9 was dark or how DS9 used those darker themes. DS9 was a response to how cleanly TNG resolved a lot of very complex situations. For example, the Enterprise would get two conflicting factions to sign a peace treaty and then fly off at the end of the episode. DS9 showed how problems aren't solved that easily. A treaty doesn't make decades of distrust and war disappear. Someone has to stay and deal with the nitty gritty. Someone has to rebuild the society after the war, to make sure that the treaty is enforced after the diplomats have left, to keep the peace if the treaty is broken. Picard lays the foundation for peace, but Sisko stays and roll up his sleeves to rebuild the civilization. And DS9 never contradicted the message of TNG. DS9 never said that we shouldn't work together or try to resolve conflicts through diplomacy. The darkness in DS9 was to emphasize just how important TNG's ideals of cooperation, diplomacy, and peace are. The whole point of episodes like "Siege of AR-558" is to show how horrific war is and why we have to do everything we can to avoid it. Discovery and Picard dials the darkness of DS9 up to 11 but it doesn't have even a fraction of the depth. They want to exist in the more complex and gritty world of DS9 but they resolved problems as easily as crappy Saturday morning cartoons, without doing any of the extra work of DS9.

[@aucarter]

KingOfMadCows Please ... stop ... using ... logic! 😂😂😂

[@koreyjeffers6963]

Dude. Who said you were allowed to make excellent points and observations like this? Just shit up and consume more product. Enough of this well thought out analysis stuff. Geeze.

[@kyleowsen]

The way I look at it is that if new Trek did the Homefront / Paradise Lost two parter, it would've just been the first part and the main characters would be the ones sabotaging the power grid.

[@mikesaporito1373]

This is an excellent comment. The only problem is you assumed the writers of Discovery and Picard have watched Star Trek.

[@Bt3615]

Nah, with this Picard thing they wanted to do something like The Expanse with mystery box. It is as bad as it sounds.

[@MADdBrath]

Don't ask questions. Just consume product, then get excited for next products.

[@SeekerLancer]

I've stopped consuming product. I expect to be neutralized soon.

[@badlaamaurukehu]

Consumer grooming

[@orapasc]

I would swear Will Wheaton deserves all the crap he has coming to him from selling out but, maybe he has a family to feed. I would like to think he didn't do it to maintain some sort of social relevance. I hope they paid handsomely for his soul.

[@reflectingh9997]

I love capitalism

[@mrjohnnyk]

Media in 2020

[@stephenward7856]

The final 5 minutes nails exactly what Star Trek is and is not.

[@XalphYT]

I didn't cry, but I did get teary-eyed.

[@Herowebcomics]

Yep! Awesome space battles,armadas,and the passing of legendary figure as a sacrifice for somebody else! ...and then ruining it with bull crap!

[@whodatninja439]

Plinkett sounds like he's about to cry, his favorite show raped

[@LeonSKennedy7777]

my stool this morning was shaped like galactic treaty

[@pangoprime8674]

Mark Ranger ROFL!!

[@alberto5147]

My heart broke when I learned that Patrick Stewart basically all but commissioned what ST Picard is as a show. I can't help but to lose hope that the show will morph into real Star Trek. And I've also lost a bit of respect for Mr. Stewart himself.

[@AB-ii8st]

We now know that Stewart was just an actor and had nothing to do with the writing and direction of TNG.

[@glitchedoom]

@@AB-ii8st I thought that was common knowledge? TNG was a job to Stewart, and he gave it his all because he is an extremely talented professional, but he never harbored any real love for Trek.

[@artfuldodger3964]

Before or after he was the Poop emoji?

[@marklabonte2925]

“She tries to cover up, but it’s too late, I’ve already seen everything”

[@nicholasvinen]

@@glitchedoom that isn't what he said when he was interviewed on Top Gear. He said he was a big fan of TOS so he was thrilled when he was offered the role of Picard on TNG. It's hard to see how a fan of TOS would like this, though.

[@KneelB4Bacon]

TNG Picard after watching the first season of Star Trek Picard: _"I would rather die as the man I was, than live the life i just saw."_

[@cameronmills3599]

*points at Alex Kurtzman* That man is bereft of creativity... and imagination!!

[@jongerbergerdecht5579]

"You wanted to be ass deep in Romulans"

[@GeorgeMonet]

That wasn't the first season, that was from like season 5 or 6. And I think that really shows you how much better TNG was. They had 7 seasons and the fans wished there were more! After just 1 episode of Picard and fans of TNG were wishing there were less!

[@mr.martinez6932]

SirPatStew, perhaps paying homage to SirMikeCaine: "I have not seen the Picard show, but all accounts it's *terrible* -- but I HAVE seen the house it bought, and by my own account it's *terrific!*

[@vengeance1701]

That is perfect.

[@mechakitsune]

When Brent Spiner said "She's always had a passion for Vulcan culture..." He waves his hand. Literally a hand-wave explanation for how an android can perform a mind-meld.

[@Flufferz626]

It would MAYBE make sense for some genetically weird Romulan to be able to mind-meld because thousands of years prior they and the Vulcans had a common species/ancestor. That is really outlandish, but made more sense than what this show did.

[@pootispenser5089]

He might as well have added "or whatever". Which is basically the standard explanation for everything in Star Trek now.

[@orapasc]

no no. You don't understand. IT IS A GALACTIC TREATY.

[@QuixoticIgnotism]

Star Wars crapped all over the original characters and plot. Terminator literally terminated it's hero. Ghost Busters danced on the grave of respectable story telling. Jurassic World turned the awe of Dinosaurs into bio-engineered monsters wrestling in a gift shop. And now Star Trek turned the deepness of space and all it's philosophy into a 14 year old's dream during wisdom teeth removal on laughing gas. What a time to be alive....

[@DblOSmith]

Exactly. I can't wait until the JJ Abram's reboot of Back to the future Starring Glen Close as Doc Brown and the girl from Akeelah and the Bee as Martina McFly fighting against Trumps America and Brexit, or whatever.

[@badlaamaurukehu]

Notice a pattern yet?

[@KasumiKenshirou]

@@DblOSmith The Back to the Future creators have stated in numerous interviews that a reboot will only happen "over their dead bodies".

[@markusfalk9459]

"But wait, there's more!"

[@justafox5356]

Don’t forget Doctor Who! Suffering under the same plague so extreme it’s about to earn its second cancellation in 50 years!(third if you count the failed comeback attempts with Paul McGann)

[@Gibson343088]

This continues to be the most brutal, and most deserved destruction of a piece of corporate art ever made. Well done Mike.

[@BiggieTrismegistus]

I regularly revist it just to remind me of how far things I used to love have fallen.

[@ML-mx3mm]

What kurtzman-trek demonstrates is that a show is only as smart as the people writing it. An obvious fact to be sure, but my point is that this Picard is Picard in name only, because the real Picard wasn’t Patrick Stewart. “Picard” was the people writing the character. Those people are gone now, replaced by substantially dumber people... and this show is the result

[@ScottyKirk1]

Sheer f*cking arrogance that the writers actually think that this is something worth watching... Just very amateurish and simple-minded. Amazing they can't see past their own self-proclaimed greatness. They just plain do not get what Picard or Trek is. These clowns mention the hope and optimism of Trek in these interviews, but the story they come up with has none of these qualities. Random ideas strung together with no cohesion or thoughtfulness.

[@Biden_is_demented]

A secret!! A secret!! Are you sneaking up on me??

[@fktx3507]

The fact that Patrick Stewart is deeply involved during the development of this clusterfuck shows how little he actually cared about Star Trek's message and the ideology represented by Jean-Luc Picard.

[@MegaZeta]

That was for sure the showrunners' first mistake, and the mistake of viewers who felt some sort of emotional obligation to respect "Picard" as a mere brand name: they figured the actor was all they needed to sell everyone on the character. Even worse, the showrunners put Stewart in the writers' room, when all evidence suggests that, smart as the man may be, this character's one that needs to be written for him. Stewart's own suggestions need to be curbed, if anything.

[@gaudiofan]

Could not have said it any better myself. The assortment of writers and creators that made peak TNG cannot be recreated in 2020. Thus we will never get anything of the sort ever again

[@BigBeakEntertainment]

I just want to say that I'm glad we as a society are slowly containing the plague that is Alex Kurtzman's writing. I'd say it was between Cowboy's and Aliens, The Amazing Spider-Man 2, and The Mummy that Hollywood executives realized he was box office poison. They wouldn't even let him write for Star Trek: Beyond. Now he can only get work on his friend JJ Abrams' TV productions of Star Trek. If we keep self-isolating from his terrible, hackneyed, grotesque writing, the WHO can declare Kurtzman's scripts eradicated in the field, and we can finally come out of lock-down. So, Star Trek did save humanity. It sacrificed it's own quality so that we might survive.

[@andrewdau1299]

Hopefully the same can be done to Damon Lindeloff. That guy is such a hack and it baffles how he keeps getting work.

[@roncinephile]

Hey don't forget about kicking Roberto Orci in the shins too.

[@Iroquois_Pliskin]

Cowboy's and Aliens gave me indigestion

[@UGNJake]

I really enjoyed Cowboys & Aliens. Can't say the same for those other two movies though. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@elwyn5150]

> I just want to say that I'm glad we as a society are slowly containing the plague that is Alex Kurtzman's writing. I wish that was true. He's involved in the Clarice Starling TV series. Jeebus. Just let Bryan Fuller do Hannibal Season 4 and have license to use the character until Fuller quits.

[@thewayofthecowboy1267]

When a series makes _LESS_ sense the _MORE_ you pay attention, you know Alex Kurtzman is involved.

[@jacoblevenson7934]

Was Alex Kurtzman involved with Game of Thrones then?

[@sarissophori]

🤣🤣🤣

[@MegaZeta]

A great many plots in much better media than "Picard" make less sense the more attention you pay to them. That includes some stuff you love personally, without a doubt. Those sorts of inconsistencies start to _matter_ when other aspects of the work fail: the audience loses interest in the characters, or the tone is all over the place, or etc., and often a combination of those problems. Storytelling is an art, not a science. This is why "plot holes" sometimes matter and sometimes don't.

[@TheRobotAssassin]

* cries in Michael Bay Transformers movies *

[@audiosurfarchive]

His amazing lack of skill for keeping the Audience empathetic and keeping their disbelief suspended is unreal. It's terribad to precious unknown levels of _fuck._ And this dude makes millions of dollars for this shit, along with above average aggregate scores: all the signs of a reliable fraud to be weaponized again for whatever IP needs to get more money squeezed out. And he's not big enough of a name to Joe & Sarah Six-Pack to dis/persuade viewers. Fucking top hired gun for the Age Of Sci-Fi Homogenization. So much support that fuck ups are victories; you're just a neckbearded badthink CIS-shit _blahblahblah_ if you don't like it--be a *REAL* fan and fucking eat this dripping wet, sticky buttbutter sandwich. I'm glad to not be a Trekkie aside from RLM analcyst. Horrible graverobbin' skullfuck screwjob: _"aw fucket, guess I'll just die even more inside"_ *CBS is an embarrassment.*

[@DarkSlushie]

I really like your analogy at the end about the kids ruining their father's train when he was away. It's very apt. Except in this case those dumb kids ruined it after their father passed away, which is even worse.

[@gelraldoldo5152]

Dude should of secured His trains with razor wire, that’ll learn ‘em.

[@Bacxaber]

@@gelraldoldo5152 *should HAVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@Puppy_Puppington]

@@Bacxaberyou got bothered by “should of” not being “should’ve”. But not by “learn em” not written out as “teach ‘em” Lmaoooooo

[@Bacxaber]

@@Puppy_Puppington How is that funny?

[@LordSathar]

Patrick Stewart is big into Shakespeare, right, ironic that his show is literally full of sound and fury, yet signifying nothing.

[@justtheaverageone3840]

you know, when plinkett in the end cut together the inspirational quotes from "the old trek" I was kinda sad to see what had become of star trek ever since... and then the cut to new trek came

[@Corbomite_Meatballs]

@@justtheaverageone3840 Agreed. At least, we'll always have Ceti Alpha V.

[@fkerpants]

YOU, my unknown friend, have made my day. Probably the most appropriate application of a Shakespeare quote I've ever seen.

[@rc5989]

The last five minutes are the harshest RLM criticism in any review I have ever seen. That was the drawn and quartering after disembowelment this show deserves.

[@StevenCasteelYT]

That's why it is so important to let people speak for hours on end instead of out of context sound bites.

[@bannisher]

If i can't watch Star Trek with my daughter... its not star trek.

[@ninjabearpress2574]

I used to watch TOS with my Mum when I was just a cub.

[@amyrat151]

I've thought about how sad it is that preteens and even younger can't watch Kurtzman Trek a few times. So many Trekkies are Trekkies because we watched Star Trek with our families when we were children and so many people have these wonderful stories about Star Trek being a family tradition. It doesn't surprise me that Kurtzman doesn't understand that. He actively hates Star Trek and resents us fans for daring to want Star Trek that's not this bleak, nihilistic garbage that uses woke virtue signaling as a shield against criticism.

[@NaeMuckle]

Even when I was grounded, or if I had homework I still got to watch TNG with my dad. Even if he was angry at me he still watched TNG with me because he thought it was that important. Luckily I had dr who to share with my kids but this new trem really gives you nothing.

[@ninjabearpress2574]

@@NaeMuckle Because everything you need to know about life, you can learn from watching (pre-2009) Star Trek.

[@BioGoji-zm5ph]

I don't think that's a fair statement. Not every Trek series has to be family friendly. Now, that being said, the way that each series handles its themes should be what's considered important. If the show just has gratuitous violence for the sake of it in order to be seen as dark and edgy, that's problematic. However, if the violence is used in order to explore certain themes, and if it is shown in a way that isn't gratuitous, then it's fine.

[@oneinathousand2156]

When they announced that Q and Guinan would be in season 2, I gotta admit they had me a little fooled. I thought, “I don’t think STP will ever be amazing but SURELY it won’t be as bad as season 1. Maybe with those two being back some of that old Star Trek energy will be brought back.” But apparently one episode in and they’ve already shoehorned Picard having a tragic childhood where his dad used to beat his mom as an explanation for why Picard is reserved, and it’s implied that him doing the whole Star Trek thing was just him running away from his past. Cause it’s not like he could just be doing it out of duty and for the good of humanity, right? For fuck’s sake!

[@flayrah]

Patrick Stewart's mother was abused by his father...mayhaps that's the source?

[@BiggieTrismegistus]

I appreciated that in the end it turned out his dad wasn't abusive. It just seemed that way because young JLP didn't understand his mother's bipolar disorder.

[@scumbaggo]

@@BiggieTrismegistus LMFAO i havent watched yet, I dont hate myself that much.. Probably never will. So this is now canon in my head.

[@BiggieTrismegistus]

@@scumbaggo Don't watch it. There's *nothing* to be gained from doing so.

[@kieranhurst8543]

Wasn't it kind of already implied that he left due to bad family memories in the TNG episode "family"?

[@raptyrn1290]

Star Trek: Discard

[@NinjaSushi2]

Ouch

[@ClunFunDun]

Very nice

[@SDNate760]

Stealing this

[@Hakumo84]

Very cool

[@goonmobile]

Not bad

[@steveouk90126]

"This thing was born of love" as every character is full of misery and hate.

[@prolamer7]

Those writers dont know meaning of that word, they think love is what you pay for in some dirty street.... and they have been paid a lot for this trash.

[@silverpslm]

Love for wealth I'm sure.

[@dubuyajay9964]

@@wholetyouinhere So much for Roddenberry's optimistic view of the future.

[@gregbauer4433]

Love for the bottle, maybe.

[@IZn0g0uDatAll]

Bro TNG was uber, duper woke. And so was TOS at its time.

[@54tisfaction]

Picard is just like every other american movie or TV-show these days based on old franchises: There is no plot, only twists.

[@sadywootten7668]

It's not so much twisting as painful writhing. :D

[@sadywootten7668]

@@sillonbono3196 :D It worked insofar as a 5 year old makes dinner. It's slop and has left a mess and nobody is happy or satisfied, BUT THERE'S SOMETHING ON THE PLATE! Be well! :D

[@54tisfaction]

It sure did! Everyone loved the last seasons.

[@emhu2594]

action and violence is all they have. no characters, purpose or plot.

[@tails52]

So they're all directed by M. Night Shyamalan?

[@MBRSims]

That compilation of scenes at the end says more than words ever could about how Star Trek has become. What was once intelligent, uplifting, inspiring and thoughtful has become shallow, disturbing, nihilistic and unsubtle.

[@Eisenwulf666]

You know what really hit me the hardest? The way Agnes (the blonde lady) says :" Turns out space is pretty boring.." and Rios says :" what did you expect?". Literally their stance on all good trek.

[@ManOutofTime913]

@@Eisenwulf666 See, in a better show that wouldn't even be a bad line because actual space travel is boring. The day to day on a starship in Star Trek is like the patrol route on a naval vessel. It's routine and mechanical because you've got really long distances to travel without much to do, other than your assigned tasks, and usually you don't run into anything. Doesn't make any sense in Picard, which is trying to be like Star Wars, where they're having life-or-death adventures every five minutes.

[@obiforcemaster]

In short: "It's dead Jim."

[@johnplatt8565]

There's Klingorcs off the starboard bow Captain puke hard!.😅🤣😂

[@HawkGTboy]

Star Trek ended in 2005.

[@silverpslm]

I wouldn't be surprised if I use this joke on someone who loves these series, and they don't know the quote.

[@thelonehuntsman1153]

It's star trek but not as we know it

[@BoopinSnakeBandito]

A death truly befitting of virgins. Pushed into a volcano.

[@TrentOrTreat]

Picard isn’t even Picard. He’s an Android with all the memories of Picard. I hate this type character BS

[@dright928]

This is probably the only philosophical talk this show could create. Is android Picard still Picard or a cheap imitation of life. Hits hard on the concepts of spiritually entwined empires that despise robotics because it's of the material plane and lacks a connection to the spirits.

[@ahmadbrooke5122]

To go where no Plinket has gone before.

[@desmondd1984]

Well even before he was an android, Picard wasn't really Picard. He demonstrated none of Picard's character traits.

[@BertPaulson]

If every time you get beam up you're converted into data and reassembled, destroying yourself in the process, what's the important difference between a biotic or synthetic copy?

[@protoeagle5630]

You know it's a sloppy half-baked decision to make him an android when he comes back and everyone explains to death how nothing about him is different.

[@itchyisvegeta]

Just got done watching this with my wife. Her exact comment: "Wow, he must really be taking this review seriously if he hasn't mentioned Pizza Rolls or his dead wife, not even once!"

[@joematthews6063]

You got yourself a good one my dude

[@matthewcollins4773]

Not even pizza rolls can ease the pain this time.

[@itchyisvegeta]

@@joematthews6063 You have no idea

[@beyondlimitationsvideo]

Watch his review of STAR TREK: The Motion Picture (if you didn't already). I'm the same age as Mike and I completely feel and understand the passion for STAR TREK. I grew up with TOS on tv - then TNG started in the early 90s (in Germany - in the US in 1987) - and I was from then on in love with STAR TREK. Yes, it's always about a certain nostalgia (something which - say - 20 year old Trek fans might not understand) - but in the end it's really about a special feeling that TNG, DS9 and VOYAGER created: An amazing future, a future, one wanted to live in - hope, optimism, enlightenment! Contemporaty TREK had been reduced to 99% action/sex/violence/drama and DYSTOPIA! I do not want to live in the world of Discovery! And the time of Picard also seems broken. AND THAT IS SAD!

[@itchyisvegeta]

@Paul Nope!

[@matttantony4077]

I just saw the Kenneth Branagh movie 'All Is True'. It's pretty much the Plinkett Picard pitch, just set in the 17th Century: An ageing William Shakespeare leaves his theatrical life behind, tends his garden in Stratford-upon-Avon, comes to terms with mortality and the life that he's sacrificed for his glittering career, entertains visiting old friends from his glory days with whom he has unfinished business, deals with problems in his family and the local community (one of which he solves using a skilfully used tall tale about his time on the stage), fends off a visiting fanboy, and has candlelit meals with glasses of wine. It's a lovely, small-scale, episodic movie that absolutely would have worked as a TV series, and there's no reason why the same couldn't have been done for Picard.

[@warlordofbritannia]

So, Star Trek Picard did Mass Effect 3 worse than Mass Effect 3? Huh. I’m not even mad. I’m just amazed.

[@bird9230]

ME3 wasn't terrible. The ending sucked, and most of the choices equaled a number but... I dont know. The build up, tone, confrontation with illusive man, there was a lot of good in there. At least it didnt betray its core, it just dissapointed us in its promise of choice. And the plot kinda sucked in the end as well. Look fine. It sucked. But when the reapers were just lovecraft monsters and when you were dealing with Cerberus, it was always great.

[@GamesandNonsenseUnleashed]

ME3 just had a bad ending. ST:Picard is an affront to everything Star Trek means. I am just glad Gene isn't alive to see his work destroyed but careless, politically driven people.

[@legocomenter]

No. Picard didnt do mass effect 3. They stole a premise and plotpoint from mass effect 1. Theres a significant difference.

[@hermannabt8361]

Always remember: there was a good TNG-like ending to ME3, but it got leaked, so the writers decided to change it against the will of EA.

[@MrSnaztastic]

@@hermannabt8361 I highly doubt that EA gave a shit about the story of Mass Effect 3 until the backlash occurred (at which point they probably cared a great deal). The original lead writer leaving the series was the destructive element for Mass Effect 3, which left the lead producer to just do an ass pull of monolithic proportions for the concluding story. Wheelspinning for an entire entry instead of setting up 3 didn't help either though.

[@geoffreybrockmeier3765]

If someone sells their soul to the Devil, doesn't the Devil usually give something in exchange? Like talent? How does Kurtzman have a career?? Everything he makes is garbage.

[@GalactcusSpartan]

Easy, the gift to Kurtzman of the Star Trek license is a curse that the many pay for and the few profit.

[@ihateyankees3655]

He forgot to ask for talent or creative genius

[@ThatNotACopGuy]

If you look at kurtzman’s filmography, movies he write seem to make a boatload of cash. That’s his pitch to executives, “I made this tranches millions of dollars writing safe, predictable trash, let me write this franchise for you and it will make millions too!”

[@gnudarve]

Well he dresses like a squealy little buttplug and he gives good meeting, that's enough apparently.

[@link343]

Nepotism. Or so I hear.

[@xxxxxx89xxxx30]

When the Discovery reviews came out, I was like... Mike and Rich are old and bitter, I'll watch it and form my own opinion... And my opinion now is that they were too lenient and forgiving with Discovery.

[@namelessjedi2242]

They tend to be lenient, as a rule.

[@xxxxxx89xxxx30]

@Aaron K noup :D

[@danmanx2]

@Aaron K That is EXACTLY the issue. They have their money. You caring whether or not the show is good is irrelevant to them. God damn. How do we get out of this never ending puzzle box?

[@Randomcorpse]

Stewart rejecting the first draft then accepting the second. Kurtzman: This Stewart: Oh, dear god, no. Kurztman: Still this, but an extra zero on your paycheck Steward: Make it so

[@TheScottygriff]

I hope everyone realises Plinkett was released because Mike couldnt get Rich to talk about it with him anymore

[@petemasta99]

That and Jay is fed up of filming it

[@mi2492]

That was my first thought too

[@sadywootten7668]

Mike still recorded all the audio staring at a framed photo of Rich. :D

[@sadywootten7668]

@@CarrotConsumer Space Rich Evans will rise again to redeem us!

[@MiniMackeroni]

@@CarrotConsumer No one's ever really gone.

[@DoctorObviously]

Remember, the only elements that make up a story are: 1. Catastrophe 2. Violence That's it.

[@TheSuperQuail]

@DevMag 52 Batman and Robin is against the geneva convention

[@peachmanflossboypeac]

Mindblowing. Some of the best Next Gen episodes didn't have an ounce of violence. What are these writers on?

[@hilaryc8648]

3. AI

[@cheekibreeki7005]

StarlessSky can’t wait until the Andy Griffith reboot where he gets 100 headshots in the first 10 minutes.

[@RWSCOTT]

Akiva Goldsman .... *shudder*

[@1975amclav]

I read Wil Wheaton's body language in all of those interviews as 'Please put me in the next season, please hire me, I'll be good, please give me a job!' So sad.

[@ens0246]

He could have just agreed to the money but still be writhing uncomfortably at having to lie so much

[@DD-lm1gv]

He should have been begging while putting on lip gloss. That would have landed him the job.

[@wizardpatch9405]

He needs work now that Big Bang Theory is over.

[@stevenobrien557]

@Captain McDog why would Wheaton be punished like that? He would be the last to make un-PC tweets

[@tprime2702]

@@stevenobrien557 The feminists who wrote this show eat their own first.

[@lancebaylis3169]

I've never understood this modern value system that you have to like ALL of a thing if you're a fan of it. Mike's critique of Picard comes from a place of love. As fans, we all used to be able to debate freely whether we can like something or not and having alternate viewpoints was encouraged and healthy. Nowadays even just saying Picard isn't to your liking is enough to get hordes of people coming down on your like a ton of bricks, saying we're "gatekeeping" etc... you know what, maybe when it comes to the beloved characters, maybe I want to gatekeep, because based on Star Trek Picard, these people don't understand Star Trek. But once upon a time we were allowed to have different opinions. And not liking something isn't a sign of a hater... sometimes it's a sign of someone who loves something so much that they hate to see it fail so badly.

[@KairuHakubi]

orthodoxy always whittles down the number of acceptable viewpoints so it can pit people against each other more solidly.

[@gonzostrangelove6107]

When I look at _Picard_ and _Discovery_ I'm reminded of something Spock once said: "Their pattern indicates 2-dimensional thinking."

[@starseed96]

It's worse, its one-dimensional thinking. With 2 dimensions you at least have 4 quadrants instead of only 2 opposites.

[@chrisegg7936]

oh man the "Sisko explains humanity to aliens" clip at the end really got to me

[@chrisegg7936]

oh hey that didn't last long

[@kay_keik7842]

its the talent of a good writer.

[@redsgrave2003]

It's almost like the writers and showrunners there understood Star Trek.

[@jamesmcglough5985]

i forced myself to watch all of Star trek picard, and the ending of this video (and some parts in the middle) got so much more emotion out of me that the whole show. Bring back real star trek, we really need it right now.

[@SeeFoodDie]

Sisko was fantastic

[@RifterDask]

They literally just stole the plot of Mass Effect beat for beat, right down to the dead hero being copied into a mechanical body. Oh, and the army of synthetics trying to open a portal in order to let a race of machine-god space octopi through to cleanse the galaxy. Completely shameless.

[@festo8756]

What about when Rodenberry copied the Twilight Zone episode People are alike all over when he made the Cage? Susan Oliver plays the same character in each

[@monkeymox2544]

@@festo8756 Right but that's just a single episode, not the plot of an entire series. And let's not forget the utter plagiarism in STD, of an indie developer no less. Both shameless and disgusting, the way that guy was treated. Kurtzman is nearly incapable of original ideas. And when he does have them, they're terrible and make no sense.

[@AscendantStoic]

Wouldn't expect anything less from those hacks.

[@festo8756]

@@monkeymox2544 There's more plagiarism in the rest of the series. I just gave you one example. Balance of Terror is a rip-off of the movie Enemy Below. Do you want more examples?

[@festo8756]

@@monkeymox2544 The entire series of Star Trek is a rip-off of Forbidden Planet

[@AlastairjCarruthers]

"On the world the humans call... Mars" So, just Mars then? Seems unlikely that the Romulans would have a different name for one of Earth's neighbouring planets. Even if they do, shouldn't the universal translator deal with that?

[@whompronnie]

Riker: "On the world Romulans call....... Remus." Geordi: "Why did you say it like that?" Riker: "That's what they call it." Geordi: "That's what *we* call it, too, because that's its name!"

[@squirrelsyrup1921]

@@whompronnie In a show the writers call "Star Trek"

[@xXinslavedXx]

"I dont believe them" -Rich when they said it would be narrative based

[@PangolinMontanari]

The man is fucking psychic. I know they say it often in Best of the Worst, but it cannot be overstated.

[@OregonCM]

Cancelling CBS All Access is the happiest ending in the history of Star Trek.

[@orapasc]

It's a good ending because the fact is the reason they bother to make this stuff in the first place is to get your money. Starve them out of existence.

[@BBHood217]

I can see now why Seth McFarlane went and made his own Star Trek with blackjack and hookers.

[@Gibblets411]

Good thing he did. Everything I used to enjoy is turning/has turned to shit, but somehow, Orville came out of nowhere and rekindled good sci-fi for me. It's funny to see the contrast between what passion does with an IP versus what high budget corporate types do. The guy who made Family Guy is doing circles around the two major sci-fi giants I grew up loving, because he loved what they used to be.

[@TheTrueCaptainAwesome]

Who knew that the best Star Trek out there is not Discovery, nor Picard, but Orville?

[@stu9282]

I want to see Picard and the captain of the Orville in a Mugen fight tbh

[@Gibblets411]

​@Nalidus It's the same reason I love Mandalorian and haaaate the sequels. You can see which team had Star Wars fans and lovers versus which had people who just wanted to make a big budget movie. They need to have fans of the franchises leading them cause the idiots they keep bringing in are clearly not interested in the IP itself, they're in it for the "prestige?" of working on certain IPs. Just think... Ryan Johnson will forever be one of the dumb fucks that had a hand in Star Wars. The fact that he was a major part of it's decline doesn't matter. He touched the prequels anyway... Nothing those fucks put out is canon to me.

[@wpgme85]

The Orville is the best Star Trek property we've gotten in 15 years.

[@willfischer6007]

“Never again kill someone just because it’s what they deserve” is such a horrifying moral lesson

[@skibobshipoddlypop]

And also, like, duh. You can't do that now, how is it allowed in the future?

[@richardwicks4190]

In the original series, criminals were treated as people with mental conditions who were reformed in institutions through therapy. That was the idea of the far future. That criminals were people with fundamental mental illness because there was no poverty.

[@Pxtl]

It's a way they can have their cake and eat it too. "Capital punishment is wrong" = Star Trek. "Ultra-violent revenge fantasy" = Modern TV. "Ultra-violent revenge fantasy but we regret it afterwards because capital punishment is wrong" = Modern Star Trek.

[@Aedrion-]

It how the people who write this think. And it tells you all you need to know about them.

[@TK2692]

It's like Star Trek paint on the moral attitudes of the Victorian era.

[@ramadansteve6573]

The funniest thing to me about all of this is that there's a "Mirror Universe" comic book series set during TNG that's dark and gritty but is 1,000,000 times more classy, respectful, well thought-out, and faithful to Star Trek lore and canon. And it doesn't read like "I'm a 14 year old edgelord and here's my 'what if Star Trek was badass' fanfiction". I wouldn't say it's the most intelligently written expansion to the Star Trek lore but it doesn't make me physically ill like learning all the failures of Picard has. I woke up this morning to finish this review and thought it was my hangover that was making me want to vomit. Nope, just Picard.

[@IronFreakV]

Hey it's ramadan steve!

[@hammer326]

What's this comic series' name? I'm a pretty entry level trekkie and it sounds cool. Very cool, even.

[@justinplace8395]

Agreed, Mirror Broken expanded the TNG mythos in a really fascinating way. On the same note, if anyone is looking for more Star Trek that's more in line with classic shows, the pocket books and novels are fantastic and there is a wide variety of them from TNG, TOS, VOY and original ideas like Star Trek: Titan which follows Riker as a captain post-nemesis

[@barbarusbloodshed6347]

When Picard was announced I was sure they'd base it losely on the Star Trek: Destiny novel trilogy. Because THAT is what this show should have been... god, those books are so good and fit so well with established canon! David Mack, the author of that trilogy, really knows his stuff. It's so annoying to know that such a good story exists but isn't canon!!!!!!

[@fatanimetiddies9760]

Can you imagine what they'd make the Mirror Universe if they visit it now? They'd try to make it into some ultra grimdark 40k ripoff lmao

[@CheddahSlingah]

I have never heard Plinkett sound so genuinely sad as he was at the last section of the video. Thank you, Mike, for putting into words what so many of us feel.

[@SammEater]

I suppose because Star Trek always felt like something he loved more than Star Wars.

[@Adorni]

“I think the world _needs_ Star Trek, right now.” I agree, Mr Stuart. It’s a shame we didn’t get it, isn’t it?

[@beyondlimitationsvideo]

Oh, SO MUCH! We need optimism and HOPE! THAT is what STAR TREK was about for so many decades! A future to look forward to. Mankind reborn after WW3 and evolving technologically and spiritually into something BETTER. Watching Discovery and Picard is like watching people from the 21st century with all their emotional crap, drama, hate and swearing.

[@KickAndDestroy]

@@beyondlimitationsvideo Star Twitter

[@mmjahink]

We did, actually, only it was named The Orville instead of something with the prefix Star Trek.

[@Joelivingsten1667]

The Hollywood bugmen, who wear thick rimmed glasses and think like the Borg, don't realize the Star Trek we need would do a dressing down of THEM, not of Picard.

[@thomasderosso5625]

We got a show that reflects the present instead of one that has hope for the future.

[@adamjames0710]

TNG was meant to portray a hopeful future for humanity that had grown past tribalism and greed. Humans in the federation were sophisticated and followed intellectual pursuits. The new Star Trek wants to inject as much modern politics as possible. If I wanted that I could turn on the news.

[@headphonic8]

Star trek was always just "politics, but with aliens". It lost that hopeful future back in DS9 with the massive Dominion War

[@TiffanyStarrxxx]

You can have topical, and political stuff in shows as long as it's done well. Old TNG episodes had plenty of them. Difference was that the writers were much better.

[@BiggieTrismegistus]

​​@@headphonic8I think the hope made it through the Dominion War. Barely. Think of it like World War II. Good people had to do bad things to defeat awful people. There was a hope at the end that the Cardassians at least could turn into the equaivalent of Germany and Japan: former enemies that became strong friends and allies.

[@bexarath]

The very first episode of TNG was Q judging the human race as barbarians, and the rest of the series could arguably be seen as them proving him wrong. All to lead to this. Maybe Q was right all along.

[@closedmouth]

hey, not all of the human race. Just the TV writers

[@JohnBromin]

Of course Q was right, he's Q, And as we all know a Q is never wrong, he's simply temporarily rendered incorrect until reality bends back to his vision.

[@Marmocet]

It's funny because they're trying to be ultraprogressive by showing women and brown people running everything, but they also show that world being a hellish dystopia.

[@names_are_useless]

If a Q is never wrong, then the Writers are trying to make sure Q was absolutely right in that first episode of TNG. Maybe they DO care about Star Trek lore?

[@SirSoffrito]

"You just don't get it, do you, Jean Luc? The trial never ends. We wanted to see if you had the ability to expand your mind and your horizons, and for one brief moment, you did. [...] For that one fraction of a second, you were open to options you had never considered. That is the exploration that awaits you... charting the unknown possibilities of existence." I think people misunderstand what Star Trek is about.

[@OathofLight]

You gave me actual emotional whiplash at the end. I thought you were ending with the courageous optimism of the real Star Trek shows - I wasn't ready for the misery of Picard's horrorfest. It made your point in the clearest way.

[@nathanvalle6997]

The more I think about it, the more I blame SciFi's Battlestar Galactica. Ever since that show came out 15 years ago, every mainstream science fiction media since has tried to be dark and edgy like it. It just doesn't work with Star Trek.

[@OathofLight]

@@nathanvalle6997 I somehow still haven't seen Battlestar Galactica. Everyone says it's one of the best sci-fi series, though, so I should probably do that at some point. :)

[@Dennzer1]

@@OathofLight It stinks.

[@mrjohnnyk]

@@nathanvalle6997 Nah I blame the JJ Abrams flicks

[@nhender]

I was thinking the same thing that your comment is right on the money

[@TheRealDioBrando]

The effects of JJ Abrams Mystery Box TED talk have been devastating to a whole generation of writers.

[@DaelinZeppiTheComputerGamer]

Couldn't agree with Dio more.

[@RoninDave]

I just hope audiences finally reject that shit but the problem is it's reinforced by an army of media journalists and attention-seeking vloggers/bloggers who make a living out of guessing the answers to the mysteries for those too stupid to think for themselves.

[@PangolinMontanari]

Mostly just Alex Kurtzman, who appears to be the only writer in Hollywood anymore

[@d.w.1567]

@@2012sonora BSG

[@isodoublet]

It's kind of hilarious that a guy who's never written a decent story in his life was called on to give a talk about storytelling.

[@alexanderkubicki3777]

The Ben Sisko speech at the end literally was a kick in le balls. Kurtzman, you have destroyed my childhood.

[@killianjones4970]

Figuritively.

[@littlejuliuscaesar8920]

“Please give it a chance” - Alex “The Franchise Killer” Kurtzman

[@swans184]

A hack dog whistle if ever there was one

[@hwoarangthedoorbell]

As long as pathetic, soulless corporations get their grubby fingers on beloved IPs, cobbling together sequels/reboots to get money before people realize they have no understanding of the properties they own, he’s sure to get work.

[@AquariusC]

"Please pay for product, then you can hate it. Thanks." Because afterwards these people don't give two fucks about anything you think, $$$$$$$$$$$

[@antoniowakardo7280]

"please clapp" "please...."

[@littlejuliuscaesar8920]

@Antonio Wakardo *CLAP REQUIRED*

[@nambiezombie1435]

the fact that CBS was petty enough to block you over Picard reviews just makes the reviews all the more funny and true imo

[@ninjabearpress2574]

Must've hit a nerve.

[@NealX_Gaming]

This review has far more views than any one scene from Picard. They know Mike has influence and they don't like it.

[@ninjabearpress2574]

@@NealX_Gaming They know Mike's telling the truth, that's why they have to silence him. Apparently it's easier than offering quality entertainment.

[@gregbauer4433]

Long gone are the days when TV shows would crowdsource ideas and accept scripts from people not connected with the show (like, say, TNG Season 3 did, which helped give the show new life). Now the way to deal with constructive criticism and different ideas is to abuse people on social media. Imagine if Captain Picard ran the Enterprise like this.

[@TheBestCommenterEVER]

@@ninjabearpress2574 I mean it might be from all the people tweeting at CBS saying how much the show sucks and referencing RLM. That's what basically happened with Shatner.

[@doncoyote68]

DS9 Dark: Brutal war drama, politics, intrigue, moral dilemmas.. Nutrek Dark: Dumbed down war. Drink alcohol, swears a lot, violence, insults, hates fans It's just... so childish.

[@andrzejsugier]

And despite all that, DS9 was full of optimism. And was strongly anti-war and anti-violence despite war being so central to its story. And was full of fun characters that had strong moral compases. God I miss DS9.

[@jacksonjacob7791]

DS9 was amazing

[@dubuyajay9964]

@@andrzejsugier Yeah, DS9 was dark, but it still felt like Trek. It didn't feel hopeless.

[@desmondd1984]

@@dubuyajay9964 On DS9 the Federation's ideals were challenged at times, and characters made moral compromises, but there was never this outright nihilism and mean-spiritedness that defines nu-Trek.

[@GetterRay]

@Phillip That's too much nuance for STP. And for most people who hate DS9 too. Even today you'll get brainlets complain that DS9 is too dark or disrespected Roddenberry's vision.

[@saucypupper3347]

You can't dislike this video, it would be a violation of Galactic Treaty.

[@kaiserjoe2316]

WE ARE THE BORG. RESISTANCE IS...negotiable.....pffft

[@TheCatWatches]

When Mike couldn’t get the celebrity Rich Evans to come back, he had to call on his old friend, Real Mr. Plinkett, to review this piece of crap.

[@jp5394]

Rich missed out on a glass of wine

[@IMperson222]

Mike became the very thing he sought to destroy. (Everything wrong with Picard in x minutes or less)

[@icantthinkofaname5950]

Rich was the original Plinkett

[@slochedplays9585]

@@IMperson222 No I disagree with this. This is not cinemasins level. It's a good Plinkett review but not the best. I honestly blame it on the source material. movies like Phantom Menace and Ghostbusters 2016 at least gave Plinkett a solid mountain of shit to dig through. But Picard? that was basically like wading into a river of diarrhea in galoshes and trying to catch individual passing turds with a butterfly net.

[@bl1398]

Rich Evans is too busy watching trailers , and I don’t mean movie trailers

[@jp5394]

"Please, judge the show with it's own merits" I did, and it's awful.

[@Corbomite_Meatballs]

"Please clap." Ya know, when you have to ask people to do something like that...then there's something wrong with your product. Or the people promoting said product: "Please don't drink/snort/inject our bleach/cleaner/hand sanitizer."

[@brad3139]

The inspirational start trek bits at the end being followed immediately by the violence and vulgarity of Picard really drives home the fact that this show was complete trash.

[@Tchoukis]

The makers of the new show cannot conceptualize the future presented in Star Trek, even though it's not all that special, because they are bitter people with trash souls, and everything they make is fouled by and reflection of that trash.

[@theephemeralglade1935]

The end of this video made me sad then angry. Yeah, fuck those douchebags, but I don't think Patrick Stewart really appreciated what he had been involved in all those years either.

[@MiniMackeroni]

@@Tchoukis And to think that the original series came out during one of the serious periods of the Cold War. With the fear of Nuclear Armageddon right around the corner.

[@mrjohnnyk]

@GermanCarsRule Sounds like everyone involved in big media today.

[@TheOmegawop]

@@Tchoukis it's more cynical than that. They believe that their vision of the future is the preferred course and the correct way to reach the most viewers. All the talk of storytelling yet nothing bold or creative came from the show, just hackneyed, tired sci fi action tropes.

[@ifragisk]

I enjoyed the end of this video where you remind us of what real Star Trek used to be. You give a random DS9 episode to show that many times you can lay out the full situation to an audience up-front, no secrets, and explore how the characters react to the situation and work through their feelings. So true when I watched Barge of the Dead last night, a Voyager episode and really enjoyed exploring the emotional and spiritual plight that Torres found herself in. One of the few Torres episodes of the later years and it was much better than all Seven of Nine borg stuff. Also found out after it was written by good writers Ronald D Moore and Bryan Fuller. Its the good writers that need to be brought back, not Patrick.

[@TheSignOfZeta]

Alex Kurtzman - Give Star Trek: Picard a chance Me - I gave the first season of Discovery a chance & that was one-too-many.

[@LordBrizz]

He has to beg for people to pretend nothing else Star Trek exists because otherwise they'd realize how awful it is.

[@agonleed3841]

1st season was good. I'd expect people to talk more shit about the second season which I liked, but they kinda went left field. Not necessarily bad, but definitely....interesting lol

[@pgw1977]

Yep Discovery was a flop.

[@guardiane]

Yes. This. Discovery was a heaping pile. Once I got to the Klingon rape scenes that constantly repeated over and over, I turned it off permanently.

[@denkerbosu3551]

If this is whats born from their "love" imagine if they actually hated it...

[@joerdim]

Maybe it would have been good then.

[@GeorgeMonet]

@@amanibob1416 And apathy was flowing when they made episode 7.

[@johnpatz8395]

Denker Bosu the thingthey"love " is to take established franchises and ruin them, while pushing their own agenda

[@TheDoc377]

Imagine if they were actually capable of emotion towards a world rather than a franchise.

[@Ghidorah96]

Star Wars the last jedi Made by a spiteful little man

[@dennisdenise1]

As a young child Star Trek showed me how to “ grow up “ to become a member of society that strives to be better. This star trek shows young people how to “ grow up.” And how is that ? Get drunk, do drugs, scream yell, insist on your way. This future is grim. Very sad.

[@the81kid]

Star Trek is now for angsty Tumblr and social media users who don't like Star Trek, they just like the idea of Star Trek.

[@citydefender1235]

Our enemies want to destroy our stories and culture in order to demoralize and divide us. This schlock is intentional. And they are succeeding.

[@ChimpFromSpace]

@@citydefender1235 You get it. Demoralization is the name of their game. I like to call it "The Great Dumbining"

[@Magpie1701]

@@ChimpFromSpace Sounds like a script from a Voyager episode.

[@ShamrockParticle]

@@citydefender1235 generic and poorly made scifi has existed for decades, thank MST3k and others. How is it different now?

[@richardplinkett4956]

Perfect ending to Star Trek Picard: Q shows up and tells Picard that he never left the Vineyard. Picard gives him a confused look before opening his eyes and understanding. Hard cut to a still shot of Picard's tombstone. Credits roll. Fin.

[@MrZiljon]

In the state that humanity seems to be in this series I wouldn't be surprised if Q came back and said "you have now failed the trail".

[@kevinnio]

Q is back for Season 2 according to the trailers, but only to enable some time travel shenanigans.

[@skibobshipoddlypop]

@@kevinnio oh, wow, I'm sure they will absolutely nail that, with no time travel related plot holes whatsoever. The idea that they can just alter the past is worrying to me, but I'd wager that Q will literally be like, inviting Picard to join them and he'll walk into the light to ascend to a Q or something bizarre

[@dandylionwine]

I like this idea a lot. Maybe there could have been a hint established about it in the opening episode of the series - Q brings Picard a tasteful but beautiful bouquet of flowers, as a gift for an old friend he hasn't seen in ages! Picard has a what's-this-about moment with Q to establish the tone of the show, the flowers are forgotten about, and the show moves on. At the end of the series, Q shows up again to put a bow on the resolution - they laugh and share a glass of wine - and Q reaches off-shot, pulling the same bouquet back into frame, and Picard realizes the flowers haven't aged a day. Then you get the "wham" line and the end scene, with Q laying the bouquet at Picard's grave.

[@mikepoulos4122]

“Wow Data, that really was a Star Trek.”

[@notapplicable6985]

Truly star fleet was a Star Trek Picard

[@vanadlehyde3600]

Bravo Kurtzman!

[@mrzubwolfer]

I know that you fool!

[@alperd.7816]

31:55 - The deathstar is now part of canon.

[@Sorrelhas]

What if the Star Trek were all the friends we made along the way?

[@mtr801]

Wil Wheaton being a shill - Timestamps: 5:28 12:25 19:10 1:13:45 1:20:55 Bonus: Michelle Hurd - 1:22:19

[@piratesnugglecakes]

Figures. The most disliked character from the old show would naturally shill for this trash.

[@kalashnikovdevil]

As a wise man once said. Shut up Wesley.

[@loganholmberg2295]

😂😂 Lets be fair. They asked him to host one of those stupid after shows. Do you think he is going to say anything bad? It's ruin whats left of his career. I'm sure if hed known what at hot pice of garbage it was he'd not have signed up for it. Or maybe he would have hes not exactly rolling in cash if you watch some of his board game shows on youtube.

[@PangolinMontanari]

He should've stuck with playing board games and D&D on youtube.

[@kedabro1957]

I guess he clearly wanted to be invited to star in season 2.

[@RaikenTB]

Wesley shilling for this crap is too perfect.

[@feature.of.jarjar24]

Shut up, Wesley

[@GanonsSpirit]

He's probably hoping they'll let him come on for season 2.

[@openpelican]

Hollywood child actors...

[@vonstraugg5963]

Goes hand in hand with him being in The Big Bang Theory as a completely forced nerd-celebrity rival.

[@FairyRat]

Always hated this sleazebag.

[@TSINIproductions]

Wait so the Romulans chose the moment to attack Mars when it was building rescue ships for their own home world? 🤣