We're On The Wrong Side - Episode 51, Day 93 - Haymarket to Glasgow

[@georgedocherty2024]

You should see Breich now. All modernised with new shelters, seating and of course access. The station didn’t close which I put down to you guys! The power of the internet 😊

[@hhgttg69]

just saw the pics online, very impressive now. but is there a carpark?

[@nicoledavis7904]

I just looked this up as watching the episode all these years later and was so interested to see that some of the suggestions were put in place, the station saved and in 2019 had regular services. But there still doesn't seem to be a carpark? Or is there and do people now use the service?

[@Lartr1]

My friend brought this to my attention. I was the driver of your train from Motherwell to Whifflet and Coatbridge Central. I can be seen on the platform at Motherwell at 3 min 24 sec...just after Ye Olde Bounty Offering 😂

[@DerekHartley]

3 months in and you're still just as enthusiastic and passionate about the project as you were back in May. It's going to be very weird when it's all over. Can't imagine how you guys will feel.

[@SamSitar]

they will find another all of something do visit.

[@agent_605]

DerekHartley Because the footage is delayed, they’ve actually already done it all, they finished it the day before the last main video was uploaded. If you follow their twitter it is more up to date etc and tells you where they are

[@DerekHartley]

Alasdair Clift Um, I know. Why are you telling me this.

[@agent_605]

DerekHartley because from the way you worded it, you sounded like you thought it wasn’t over yet but it was

[@DerekHartley]

Alasdair Clift It isn't in terms of videos which is obviously the context I was speaking in.

[@whiskeytuesday]

Happened to randomly watch this today and when Geoff said "Today is August the 7th" I was rather surprised by the accuracy

[@chris075uk]

I used to work at Queen St low level a few years ago, as area relief. On quiet nights, I'd go behind the paneling where the seating is, wait for one of the ticket examiners on the barrier to radio me to say there was a passenger on the way down, then after a couple of minutes I'd start making spooky noises, dragging an old metal bucket and various other things to see what reaction we'd get from the passengers

[@ChrissyThePoo]

The old livery you pointed out is Strathclyde Passenger Transport.

[@DJRyanJamesUK]

Chris Wright Probably the best livery ever!

[@xanrhind9350]

Funny thing is that the old Strathclyde livery is fairly common

[@joannestirling675]

@@DJRyanJamesUK what about black and orange

[@danthefryingpan963]

Ive been watching these as a stress reliever from year 12. Its been helping me a lot. I only allow myself to watch the video if i have my 800ml cup of tea with three tea bags in it.

[@amacksplatoon]

9:17 A very brief shot of my local station, Livingston North! This is now my favourite video on this channel. I always love it when UK transport you tubers visit scotland :)

[@limeyfox]

If the running lines at Coatbridge aren't called the 'Sunnyside Up' and 'Sunnyside Down' lines then Network Rail have seriously missed a trick.

[@southcalder]

I hate to be the one to tell you, but they are the Up and Down Airdrie. Sorry.

[@cmtransportvids]

you should see Breich now! The platform is all done up, electric wires, and better parking!

[@ericjamieson]

Fun fact, the "Ye" in "Ye Olde..." actually should be pronounced "The." There's an old letter called "Thorn" that's extinct in all modern languages except Icelandic, and is the same sound represented by "th" in modern English. When the printing press made it to England, most printers used lettersets made in Germany, which didn't include the thorn, because it didn't exist in German. So they developed a convention of using "Y" to represent it (even though it looks more like a P or a D).

[@adamblack1684]

You'll be pleased to know Breich survived closure and now (pre-lockdown at least) has an hourly service Monday to Saturday and a two-hourly service Sundays.

[@priestland1]

Lovely to see you both on BBC Breakfast this morning, at last they had a quality item.

[@alicehancock1]

"It reminds me of Pilning" "We've a footbridge though" Least-used station BURN :D

[@AlexOnTheBus]

4:31 - Good to see Travis getting a mention at the start of Glasgow week.

[@grahamlive]

Congrats Vicki on exploring Motherwell and getting out alive. Or at least not with your camera equipment nicked. At least you didn't try to explore Coatbridge. You'd have had no chance. The dismal town thing is 100% true.

[@nathandufc3785]

AND Cumbernauld

[@seanny5472]

And the east end of Glasgow

[@chris075uk]

The cream and maroon livery was the last of the SPT (Strathclyde Passenger Transport) liveries, it is gradually being phased out and replaced by the Scotrail Saltire livery

[@davekirwin]

The Cream and Carmine livery is old (SPT) Strathclyde Partnership for Transport (PTE) livery. Quite rare as I was under the impression nearly everything is in new ScotRail - blue with white Saltire markings.

[@barvdw]

I quite liked it, a little dated, perhaps, but very unique.

[@matthewalbery8827]

PTE: Passenger Transport executive, there were seven of them around the country (still are). Presumably the inclusion of that organization in the livery was a result of the finance streams, then needed by British Rail, whereas now railways are turning a profit the operator is afforded more 'focus'. Perhaps that or to present a more local identity in contrast to the national focus of British and subsequently Regional Railways.(?)

[@petermc7098]

Hello There, it's a good thing that they did respond to the consultation and it's still open today. This is a great video, thank you for sharing this. It's much appreciated. Cheers Peter :)

[@George_Azeria]

One of Nottinghams former stations is now the Vicky Centre, a shopping centre. And still has the clock tower at one end. So take that Glasgow.

[@TomsPhotos]

Great work again guys. Great ambassadors for the railway. The railway needs love.

[@obel15k]

15:16 Behind you are the windows where staff used to manually add and remove printed departure boards with train details and platform numbers. Used to fascinate me when I was a youngster on trips to visit relatives as I had never been in such a large station.

[@trishrobertson1558]

I also remember these, massive printed boards for the route, paper bands covering station that were non-stopping.

[@gersfan2412]

Interesting fact you may not know. The underpass at Coatbridge Central originally led into a grand station building, the other side of the tracks from where the entrance/exit is now & you can see where the passageway & windows have been filled in. The old station became a pub, then a different pub & is now a printing shop.

[@sadmhusn]

7:20 the st enoch clock was saved and is now at the antonine centre in cumbernuald

[@allano937]

Aww ! Vicki I had been through all the videos to find footage of Motherwell. It is my main station though shieldmuir is 10 min walk from the house. The lady well is right in housing area and in fact is in someone front garden. there were more interesting places to see but I relize you are on a timetable with this project. thank you again

[@Tevildo]

Re Geoff's question at 1:30 - Kirknewton to Carstairs is only 17 mi 8 ch (according to Google Maps). Lockerbie to Carstairs is 47 mi 67 ch. The next-longest distance between stations is Bruton to Pewsey (via the Westbury avoiding line) at 36 mi 32 ch, but no direct services are available for that route either.

[@JoshMC.travels]

Tevildo longest one in Scotland that has a direct train from is from Montrose to Stonehaven

[@matthew.trains4841]

UK Railways Wouldn't it be Lockerbie to Motherwell?

[@JoshMC.travels]

Tevildo Ye so your right Mathew

[@Tevildo]

ScotRail170471 - The WCML from Lockerbie to Motherwell goes through Carstairs (the avoiding line at Carstairs doesn't connect with the WCML northbound). UK Railways - Montrose to Stonehaven goes through Laurencekirk, which is (very approximately) half-way between them, so that will kill the distance between stations figure (unfortunately). Transpennine run direct services from Lockerbie to Carstairs.

[@petekernow1]

Isn't Bruton on an avoiding line too? I did this a few years ago and got Pewsey-Castle Cary c39.75. Then Swindon-Bristol Parkway 34.5. Etc etc!

[@reb0118]

At 10:17 the driver is pushing the plunger to inform the signalman that station duties are complete so the level crossing barriers can be lowered. This is required for stopping services. Also happens at Kingsknowe.

[@pxsrrail2558]

11:04 that's a class 156 the 158s don't have those because there are going to be extra class 153s refurbed to accommodate bikes and other outdoor equipment to be joined up to them

[@RWL2012]

yep

[@euanstrachan-orr4574]

Your graphic said you got off at Glasgow Queen Street after Bridgeton (05:50) - but that's definitely Glasgow Central LL! 🙈 Hate to be a perfectionist in your otherwise excellent videos!

[@networkstepfordcounty6264]

Look at the sign at 7:04 it is definitely queen st. Sorry about pointing this out! ;(

[@SSW2503]

@@networkstepfordcounty6264 At 5:50 it is Central Low Level, so Geoff is wrong. There is no direct train from Bridgeton to Queen Street, but there is one every 10 minutes or so from Bridgeton to Central Low Level (stopping at Argyle Street along the way, which is between the two stations). Furthermore, Queen Street Low Level has side platforms, while Central Low Level has an island platform. The video at 06:03 briefly shows it is an island platform, so Central. The very next scene, at 06:08 is the main concourse at Central. Strangely, the video cuts off to the Dundas Street entrance to Queen Street Station at 6:13, which is about a 10 minute walk from Central.

[@weealvin8586]

jax plays_yt As someone who uses Queen Street and Central. It was central at the first station

[@josephbowietaylor]

I wish I'd known about your channel when you did this! I live in Glasgow and I would have come to see you!

[@acfbrown1]

I got the train to Breich yesterday to see what the new station was like and was quite impressed. It still looks brand new even after 2 years. It now has smartcard validators on both platforms as well as help points. My only criticism is the access by the corner of the crossroads adjacent to the station sign. I hope the station becomes better used over the next few years to justify all the money spent even if annual usage is realistically unlikely to go much above 10000 or so.

[@markcollinson8545]

Fantastic videos! Just watched them all. Didn't see the Cathcart Circle or East Kilbride lines though, or Helensburgh Central.

[@Nathanstrains]

And they also didn't do the Yoker Branch , the Section from Partick - Larkhall and Greenfaulds and Cumbernauld.

[@jimmymaxwell6578]

Now timetabled for an hourly service. 17 trains each way on weekdays. Times made up by new class 385 emus. Folks will come from Whitburn 3 miles for park &ride. New house building looking likely in walking distance using the station as selling point. You two have made a great contribution here. Wee Nicola should give you a medal (or at least a multi pack of teacakes).

[@discogareth]

It's getting so close to the end now. I can feel the withdrawal symptoms already setting in!

[@HenrysAdventures]

My guess is the longest distance between to stations in Scotland is Lockerby and Carstairs!

[@Flymochairman1]

Hi Geoff and Vicki, in your closing shot at Glasgow Central there, the woodwork is all original; the 'windows' above you and left on the higher level were where the 'Departure, Destination and Arrivals' boards were put, changed from the offices behind. To the right upper on the other side of the stations, I can't remember if that was used for anything other than advertising. There is some remenance and reminders of St Enoch Station, mainly the huge car-park it made as well as there being a chord line from what would've been the 5th big over-ground railway station in Glasgow, Glasgow High Street High Level, to join up with the line just south of leaving Glasgow Central. Glasgow High Street High Level was latterly used as a Goods Sorting Depot by Road-Line, N.C.L. and other Freight Carriers as well as the remnants of St. Enoch Stations Parcels Office at King Street, which basically ran under the throat of St. Enochs station. It had a beautiful Gothic Style Hotel and frontage. There is video on here (YT) of a 'Deltic Special'(?) traversing the old High Street-St. Enoch-Central Chord and old footage of the railways mentioned around on here if ya really need to. I just remember St. Enochs but Buchanan Street Station had gone and the Bus Station was open in its place by the time we moved out of Glasgow. Geoff, I agree with you, we need to be re-opening old lines and stations on present lines. There's always the time-table and extra fuel use to consider but surely modern control systems can be biult to cope. Dr. Beechings remit was to 'assume no population expansion'. How wrong that was. Great fun watching you on this series and I will watch the Documentary Feature when I catch up. Cheers and safe travelling folks.

[@saintuk70]

15:37 the pictures behind you used to be the services boards before depts and arrivs switched to above the platform entrance. I loved Central in the 80's

[@pauldevey8628]

3 months, this is an impressive effort. Congrats!

[@neilburns8869]

I can tell you some stories about Carstairs junction and station. Firstly, Carstairs lies at a point where the trains coming up from Birmingham on the WCML (West Coast Main Line) can branch off to go to Edinburgh at the appropriately named Carstairs Junction. Carstairs station wasn't as open as you see now, it was a huge stone building in the middle but the place was almost always deserted from what I can remember (and I have Aspergers - which means ultra good memory). There used to be many trains that would come up from England stop at Lockerbie then go to Carstairs where the train would divide into 2. The front carriages would continue on to Motherwell and Glasgow Central whilst the remaining carriages would sit and await another locomotive to take them to Haymarket then Edinburgh Waverley. Carstairs station itself, as I said was this giant stone building with a waiting room and the platforms that you can currently see. It was an old and often unmanned place and was quite an eerie and intimidating place because there was nobody else around. Then, you add into the equation the fact that the main mental hospital for Central Scotland is based less than a mile away - you can actually see the security fencing for it as you head towards Edinburgh from Carstairs junction. My Granma, years ago was travelling from Lockerbie to Kirkcaldy and part of her journey meant that she had to disembark at Carstairs and await another train to continue on towards Edinburgh. The stone building was knocked down over 15 years ago because it was said to create an uncomfortable and intimidating atmosphere for vulnerable passengers.

[@radarskiy]

Once more unto the Breich, dear friends, once more

[@TheNails3]

3:20 lol Vicki that was hilarious, "Ye olde Bounty bar" XD Those naughty litterbugs

[@pilningstation8155]

Great video! Very informative, amusing and entertaining - as usual! It was good to see Geoff's face light up when he ruffles through his (obviously) happy memories Pilning :)

[@Bachsoboe]

Love the videos, love the Vicki explores travelogues. Love Vicki's smile and I love Geoff's geeky laugh.

[@airplaneplustrainguy8143]

Nigel Birmingham i approved

[@robnorth480]

Breich has an hourly service Mon-Sat since last May(6 each way on a Sunday), passenger figures up from 108 in 17/18 to 342 in 18/19. Not earth shattering but a significant improvement and some proof that if you put on a decent service people will use it. Access to both platforms from the road bridge at the west end of the station.

[@evedickson2496]

Love watching all the videos and I've eventually stumbled across the one where you came to Coatbridge 😊😊.. hope you enjoyed the snowballs 😊

[@gobears6487]

I'm joining the bandwagon of: I'm going to be SO SAD when these are over!!! (Can we stretch the last weeks into, like, months of ATS videos?!?! #allthefootage 😃)

[@gobears6487]

+Tina Onions - was a Marshall once. LOL ☺ Excellent idea!

[@Andrew-jv7tc]

Can they do Northern Ireland? That's still National Rail, right?

[@barvdw]

No it's not, it's Translink. But definitely worth a visit! They could probably do it in a day or 2, 3 tops. I believe it's possible in one day, but that would leave you with no time to explore.

[@nonconformalism]

Re: Glasgow Central. The wooden paneling is an original feature, though some have been removed or tweaked since the Victorian days.

[@kuoster]

3:25 The livery looks a bit like the Keikyu trains in Tokyo. :P

[@pumax4083]

the train at addiewell was a class 156

[@callumBee]

Unless fact: St Enoch station was knocked down and the rubble and stone from the building was used to fill in the docks where the SECC now is!

[@liamgaynor3576]

Just came across this site, its just great, when you love trains and stations 🚂🚂

[@33m3c]

aww this is so werid seeing you both walk about and explore where I'm from and places I pass by daily haha! From Airdrie !

[@Scottish001]

I'm from Paisley

[@roryhand6650]

There is no direct train between Kirknewton and Carstairs (to my knowledge)... The trains that call at Kirknewton are the ScotRail trains via Shotts from Edinburgh to Glasgow Central. Trains calling at Carstairs from Edinburgh are the ones that run from North Berwick to Edinburgh, Edinburgh to Glasgow and then Glasgow to Ayr (via Carstairs)...

[@roryhand6650]

Though I am telling you that you are wrong I'm not doing it angrily 😂

[@ianmcclavin]

Also, regarding the reprieve of Briech station (which now gets the full hourly stopping service), since this was filmed, access ramps HAVE been built up to the main road as suggested, enabling the footbridge to be removed.

[@SteamboatWilley]

The best thing about Coatbridge is the Summerlee museum, where you can go for a ride on an old electric tram!

[@johnmehaffey9953]

I worked in construction and had to do a contract in Motherwell and couldn't find the street where the job was someone had stolen the road signs and I had to ask the postman directions ,it was turn right go 20 yards turn left then turn right then left I was starting to get dizzy with the directions but we eventually found it after driving around Motherwell for nearly 2 hours but the good thing was after that I could drive around like a local as I'd been on nearly every road in Motherwell

[@markm-1976]

Just listening to your comment of distances - carstairs to Lockerbie may be the longest distance as there is a direct service - the new Glasgow to Liverpool TPE service makes a call at Carstairs before Lockerbie. I was on it in December - I think it left Glasgow Central at 17.30 and it made a stop at Carstairs with announcements. I have checked to see if it is running and it is not coming up on the change of timetables due to the Covid-19 pandemic. tpe have momentarily suspended services between Glasgow and Liverpool. Carstairs to Lockerbie is 41 miles. There maybe somewhere else that beats it.

[@byronhornemusic]

it's a blood and custard livery Geoff and I love it too!

[@gibbo9089]

ATS =All the Tunnocks Shops?

[@CaseysTrains]

Scotland and Florida share common weather when it comes down to the rain. Rains are heavy for an hour then it's bright and sunny again.

[@egpx]

Geoff at Queen St: "Say hi to the delightful Kirsty!" Cut to Geoff at Central meeting the delightful Kirsty for the first time. Cut back to Queen St where Geoff has an introductory chat with the delightful Kirsty. Do I detect a bit of editing has happened ;)

[@SamSitar]

yes they edited it.

[@johnclements8534]

Coatbridge cental used to have 2 direct trains to london from inverness the clansman during the day and the night sleeper the royal highlander

[@TheAlbatross365]

I'm guessing I'm very suggestible. Went shopping and came back with Irn Bru, teacakes and caramel wafers 😂😂😂

[@barvdw]

Can't get Irn Bru in Brussels... And haven't tasted it yet, the one time I bought a bottle, I forgot it on the train...

[@epender]

​@@barvdwThat's strange, I've seen it in multiple shops in little Denmark so I see no reason it shouldn't be in Belgium.

[@barvdw]

@@epender in the meantime, I did find it in the UK (not just Scotland), and while it wasn't my favourite, it was okay (stay away from the light stuff, though, it's foul). Still nowhere in Belgium, apart from shops that specialise in imported goods.

[@Band-maid-fan101]

Wasn’t queen street low Level you were at it was central where you met Kirsty

[@jamiekent5156]

That's actually Glasgow CENTRAL at 05:57!

[@Nayson]

11:27 I doff my cap to whoever got that shot. It's gorgeous.

[@johnclements8534]

You need to change at motherwell for lockerbie very few trains aday

[@whackingbadge]

Oh. I just love these videos!

[@connorwatson7823]

Isn't the longest distance from York to London Kings Cross? There are a couple of journeys which run non-stop between those stations...

[@stephenreardon2698]

the 05:40 'Flying Scotsman' Service from Edinburgh Waverley stops at Newcastle, departing 07:04 and then does not stop again until it reaches London King's Cross at 09:40.

[@flufmuffinz5734]

I think they mean the longest distance between any two stations on a stopper

[@southcalder]

There isn’t any station between Kirknewton and Carstairs, so what they refer to is a service between two stations with nothing in between. Also, Carstairs to Lockerbie (which has one train a day) would be a contender.

[@peteryoung1902]

I hope Network Rail listened to you both. Another great video.

[@jancraig3572]

Did you go to my station shawfair in Edinburgh ???

[@LeeRender1980]

Class 333's actually have a similar bike hanging arrangement too ;-)

[@RichardWatt]

I've done the sleeper train without a bed from Aberdeen to Crewe because it was Christmas/New Year time and it would have cost me over £100 one way to get a compartment :( I've used the sleeper before from Euston to Aberdeen changing in Edinburgh around the same time a number of years before and got the ticket for about £59 one way.

[@TheNails3]

Vicki I wonder if you could do a hair tutorial for this plaited look? I like it! 😊

[@MelkromisteinWeeb]

I've been to Queen Street for times in my life already and I've never noticed that it has an underground level. (Mostly because I only had to take the trains from and to Edinburgh)

[@cmtransportvids]

15:05 I always go there i cross that bridge!

[@RahulPatel-im5nk]

Saw you on BBC Breakfast this morning!

[@freedombono]

The unit with the bike rack was a 156, not a 158, surely?

[@charliemallindine8164]

freedombono it's too square to be a class 158 and I should know it's my favourite non demu dmu

[@dgattenb]

fab to see you guys again after wick !

[@altfishmike5702]

Another fact about Lockerbie. Along with Berwick on Tweed it is a Scottish Station that has NO Scotrail service. I understand that BoT is due to get one, which will leave just Lockerbie.

[@grahamlive]

Except Berwick is in England.

[@altfishmike5702]

Doh! Good point

[@AlonsoRules]

Well done on completing every station

[@weealvin8586]

It has been confirmed that the station will temporarily close from 23 June 2018 for 12 weeks while the station is redeveloped as part of a £2.4 million project to make it suitable for the new electric trains that will use the route. The redevelopment will include work to the platforms in order to make them compliant in both height and length for the new services as well as ensuring both platforms have ramped access. Work will also be undertaken to station facilities such as waiting shelters, CCTV, etc.

[@stevehallam0850]

How could we remember who is who if you don't stay on the same side? Ant and Dec have a similar problem 🙃

[@BillyPilgrim1959]

I'm surprised I've still been to at least one of the stations per video

[@ThomasWhiteford]

Bit info The Driver at kingsknowe & Kirknewton Activates a Plunger Button witch then activates the Level crossing and Signal. Also the Brick building you showed before Kirknewton in your video is the westerhails Healthy living centre and doctors surgery

[@will13333]

now what catches me about Scotland is: So you know how the weather apps display it as hourly times, what do they do for Scotland, because as Geoff and Vicki said, the weather changes every 30 minutes!

[@sreevesfrancois]

at 5mins 58 into the video- big mistake! You are NOT at Glasgow Queen street but at Glasgow Central!! Wrong on screen text info!! (at 7mins45 you are at the low level of Glasgow Queen Street however)

[@AllTheStations]

Kirsty meets us at Glasgow Central, and then it's edited when we walk over to Glasgow Queen street. No biggie ...

[@southcalder]

You missed out one Coatbridge station, Blairhill. A pretty busy station on the western side of town serving the line to Glasgow Queen Street Low Level. So, it actually has 7 stations. Still great video though.

[@flyingbananatree5661]

The Shotts line, yay! I`m from Shotts :) I wonder who else is just watching these!

[@richypeach]

I'm loving this series

[@JFinney]

Congrats on finishing guys, saw your bbc breakfast thing yesterday!

[@ashleyjordan27891]

@Geoff Marshall the class 156 you are on is nicknamed hms lundey it crash into a pond on the line near killmrok

[@benivanphillips]

Finnnnnally got wifi and so many episodes to catch up on!!

[@ianshort2935]

Don’t forget about Spondon on Day 31!

[@georgedocherty2024]

Further to my last comment about the upgrade to the station, Breich now has one train every hour since the new timetable came into force in May.

[@leow_se]

High street is my local station!

[@ramongonzales1007]

It's so weird to see abellio trains in those videos, as my hometown railway in Germany is also operated by abellio :D

[@RWL2012]

welcome to Britain's privatised railway

[@epender]

but not for long!

[@ianshort2935]

Congrats on finishing! :D

[@moritzl7065]

Shortest distance: City Thameslink Blackfriars?

[@harrymarston6607]

Bilbrook-Codsall

[@jaredgrey39]

I like travelling on trains but I get restless after 4 hours, I found it can be cheaper to fly some times. I might fly to Glasgow with my girlfriend, once in the future. To sleep in a wooden cabin and a boat ride on Loch Lomond, (a little North of Glasgow).