We Share Our Unpopular MTB Opinions | Dirt Shed Show 507

[@gmbn]

What are your unpopular MTB opinions? Please share them below!

[@LaurentiusTriarius]

Skills courses and MTB classes are way overrated. Ride more, skills will come 😅

[@mikek9297]

E-bikers are the same as real mountain bikers.

[@uldi1s]

Short cranks are dull, long cranks are where it's at. High rise bars are silly. Short chainstays are out, long are in. Thick grips FTW!

[@midsummer5670]

xc bikes are underrated commuters aswell

[@elmosputterspark9939]

@@mikek9297 real is real

[@nukedathlonman]

Well, I'll start some controversy here: if it's got a throttle and/or relies on cadence sensing (that is to say not torque sensing), then the ebike is really a limited speed electric moped. Otherwise, the throttle-less torque sensing ebike is the very same as it's bicycle (mountain (XC, AM, Freeride, Downhill), road, gravel, etc) counter part) - just with electric assistance.

[@gmbn]

Hard agree on the throttles!

[@IdrisFashan]

Dunno if the cadence sensor makes sense, lots of older emtbs used cadence sensors… Throttles are best on the street. I worry about class 2-3 e-bike impacts on trails. Is there research on this?

[@nukedathlonman]

@@IdrisFashan Well, I singled out the cadence sensor because you can ghost pedal with that setup (so in effect, it's like riding using throttle given no power from rider is needed beyond just simply turning the crank slowly). The torque sensor will only apply a percentage of torque in relation to what the rider is putting in (the motor is actually an assistant). For an EMTB, I don't think it changes much in terms of wear and tear to trails. But if your talking the electric motorbikes/scooters that are trying to be passed off as bicycles, then yes, I agree (as those things can be quite porky - more so then EMTB fat bikes).

[@redbomberr4594]

@@IdrisFashan I've been building and maintaining my local trails since well before ebikes became popular. I haven't seen any substantial increase in trail wear that couldn't be attributed to a steady increase in riders over the years.

[@ADI121195]

Only wear and tear on trails iv seen from e-bikes if they ride back up the track even the ride up tracks get more chewed up from the torque of the motors assisted with pedalling they still have a lot more power than a human can output thru the cranks

[@GregAspenson]

Unpopular opinion. We should bring back wide rims and plus tires. 27.5x2.8 is wonderful.

[@andyarchitect]

Totally agree. That's what I usually ride and I love the confidence and grip you get from plus size tires. Each time I try a 29er with narrower tires it just feels more sketchy.

[@Seppster58]

I ride a gravel bike on trails, I ride an eMTB on trails, I ride a MTB on trails. I roll, jump and crash all the same on all three- I AM A MOUNTAIN BIKER!!

[@redbomberr4594]

Only thing I'm missing sadly from your list is a gravel bike. But it's on my wish list.

[@Ferrari255GTO]

Naaah you don't fool me, i see that GCN hat you're wearing 😂

[@themoss7115]

My unpopular opinion: Trail riding through dark muddy forest is perfectly valid commuting option

[@gmbn]

Nice! Sounds like a rad way to start and end the day

[@aaronchyea]

If the wheels are round and the rider has a smile on their face, then who cares, let em ride

[@YourBoy_Jack]

I generally prefer octagonal wheels but you do you

[@gogofastful]

Surons have round wheels.

[@Shade634]

Martyn, i agree, i just bought a stoic hardtail, i live in the flat northern part of the Netherlands, so its pretty much flat and grassy farmland. I would love to try more trial things and feel more confident in my bike riding skills. Trials is one of the few things that's easier to do here cause i live in a city, but i would love more of the tip video's you used to make with Blake and Neil. Especially the one where you focus on unlearning habbits. Please make more of these again!

[@martynashtonGMBN]

[@user-jy5sk9hg7u]

i bought a stoic about three years ago, good investment

[@johnmausteller]

I’ve just pedaled 45,000 miles over 30 years. Just rode my first E-bike. An EVO. THIS IS UNBELIEVABLE. E-BIKES SEEM REALLY Great. More energy left to shred. !! And more climbing options. Awesome

[@ManchurianCounterweight]

agreed.

[@conundrum196]

I sold my Trek X-caliber MTB a few years ago and started building and riding a steel frame ATB/gravel bike and I've never had more fun in biking. I'm not as fast as MTB'ers on trails and definitely not as fast as roadies on tarmac but I can ride pretty much any terrain on it and thus it gives such a thrilling feeling of freedom which I did not feel on the MTB or previous road bikes

[@xXxTeenSplayer]

Yeah, I hate that I can't ride my MTB on the road. Such a shame...

[@sthompsonsk]

E biking may be a form of mountain biking but it’s not pure mountain biking it’s assisted by a motor… oh does that actually qualify it as a motor bike?!? and it’s super exclusive due to the cost point. Gives old bikers a more exciting and extended experience I suppose.

[@robbchastain3036]

Off-roading for me in the '70s was first a Schwinn Sting-Ray, then a Honda mini-cycle and CYC Stormer BMX bike, plus a Maico 250 and a 175cc Harley and two Honda Elsies and a tricked-out JMC BMX bike at the end of the decade. Anything with two-wheels counts if you ride it fast enough to kick up some dust. 😀

[@markpeterson8978]

I ride bicycles in all kinds of terrain and I have different bicycles that help me do it. Some of them for Dirt and some on the road and some for in-between. All the labels are for marketing purposes that cater to egos. I love all bikes and road cyclists are stuck-up, but they ride nice bicycles. Acceptance is the key to letting it go. Great show boys. Well good! - M

[@FatDadEnduro]

Im with Owen… I ride my gravel bike more like a rigid mtb. It’s light, nimble and fun. Not replacing my trail bike any time soon, but my e-enduro might😂😂😂

[@kyleslater5245]

The only thing I don’t like is calling trials Mountian biking… I don’t have a gravel bike (or a place to ride it) but I have all the fat bike, hard tail, dh bike, enduro, emtb… I need to reduce my bikes I have almost as many as the local bike shop…

[@jameswhiteley3095]

Fat biking is awesome where there is a real winter like here in Quebec City Canada. Hard packed single track snow trails. Technical to flowy fat bike awesomeness. Come summer time of course the Mtb is the bike to have.

[@martynashtonGMBN]

In the right conditions

[@ish474]

I don't know whether MTB is cool, but either way, I'm not. Ride all the bikes, no exceptions. The only thing stopping me from owning every bike option made is money and I still manage to own a lot of bikes. If there were E bikes sold that didn't cost more than my whole fleet combined,. I'd have one.

[@Jormvngandr]

Im with Owen on this one, fatbikes are cool and fun to ride on a bigger variety of surfaces than Martyn suggested. On tarmac they are a proper slog, but once you get outside of the beaten path they are proper fun and can roll over pretty much everything (its just your skills that is the limit) They are nimble, responsive & the grip is almost out of this world. I think Surly summarized it the best with their description of the Ice cream truck: "H*ll, you could probably even hop over a grizzly if the situation arises. Probably. While we could certainly throw out terms like “confidence-inspiring” and “traction-laden” to describe Ice Cream Truck, those phrases are mostly bullsh*t, so we’re not going to do that. We’re not here to inspire you, and we didn’t laden it with anything. What we did do was design a monolith of a trail bike that doesn’t give two sh*ts about what’s in front of it." - Surlybikes

[@GrahamFootBicycleLover]

I ride a fatbike for bikepacking and so long as you fit the right tyres tarmac is fine, I ride 100 mile rides with plenty of tarmac and its fine, I've ridden in events and quite happily ridden next to gravel bikes and even dropped them oh and I'm 3 months off 70. But yes, as you say, great any time of the year over any terrain, in others words a proper offroad bike.

[@martynashtonGMBN]

Madness x

[@maximumschwa6993]

It’s hard to beat the feeling of a high speed carve on a fat bike

[@gmbn]

Grip for days!

[@SKBKER]

Electric Fat bikes are the most fun I've had on a bike .

[@22Jeffers]

I own an mtb, e-mtb, gravel bike and road bike. It’s different tools for different jobs. BUT the type of biking your doing depends on the typing of biking your doing. If you ride a road bike at Ranpage, your road biking on a mountain. If I take my mtb on gravel. I’m mtb’ing on gravel. If I take my e-bike to a bike park I’m e-biking at a bike park. If I took my bmx to the same bike park, I’m bmx’ing in a bike park. If you took your gravel bike through a wood, you can’t say your mtb’ing a) your not on one and b) your not on a mountain either!

[@Tofu_Pilot]

@16:53 No Pulaski was pictured. A Pulaski has an axe head on one side and a mattock blade on the other. It is both a great trail-building tool and a common wildland firefighting tool.

[@OwenBikeNerd]

Thanks for the trail tool insights! Cheers Owen

[@Jorge-Fernandez-Lopez]

My unpopular opinions are: 26 inch suspension forks and frames should also be available from reputable brands (more diversity), and, VPP and Single pivot Santa Cruz frames must come back.

[@gmbn]

Nice ones! That VPP one is a niche opinion!

[@ben63197]

I prefer riding a mountain bike on gravel over riding a gravel bike on a mountain

[@bbitun19]

I think fat bike is more like a mountain bike than a gravel bike. Take a look at those off-road/rock crawlers 4x4's with huge tires, but never seen a off-roader with a slick skinny tires. Just a thought.

[@sandywatson1082]

Owen should apply to GCN with his Gravel thing :)

[@monteur85480]

i need an emtb to get up the hill (injury) but it stil feels like cheeting , if i could i would not ride a ebike

[@yodapig]

Cheating at what, having fun?

[@rustychain9518]

My wife is 61 and she just started riding MTB with me this year. She borrowed an e-bike from a friend(Trek Fuel EXe) and was able make it up some punchy climbs with ease that she struggled for months to be able to get up on her regular bike...she was horribly disappointed after the ride and used the word "cheating". She vowed never to ride an e-bike until she is physically unable to ride without it, or as she put it "when I'm old".

[@yodapig]

@@rustychain9518 if she's ever physically unable to ride without it, then she's going to have to stop riding altogether - the assist only happens when you're actually pedalling. You can also dial in just how much or little (or even none) assistance you can get... There is no excuse for being disappointed after a bike ride.

[@rustychain9518]

@@yodapig Physically unable to ride the punchy XC type climbs here in PA is what I was talking about...the e-bike removed the effort required to do those climbs along with the pride she felt when she would make it up one after weeks of working up to that point. I have almost no opinion on e-bikes or the people that ride them, as of now I'm only 57 and my fitness level is good so I don't need one.

[@DarbyStrong-w7g]

"E-bikes are mountain bikes." Okay. "E-bikers are mountain bikers." Sure. "We are all the same." WHOA WHOA WHOA. NO. I've put so many hours and plenty of sweat and tears into improving my fitness, strength and cardio. Don't belittle all that effort. Don't minimize my accomplishment by comparing me to a lump who uses a motor and gets winded walking up a flight of stairs.

[@redbomberr4594]

WHOA WHOA WHOA. NO. I've put so many hours and plenty of sweat and tears into improving my fitness, strength and cardio. Don't belittle all that effort. Don't minimize my accomplishment by assuming that because I ride an eMTB I get winded walking up a flight of stairs, or that I can't keep up or even out ride you on an MTB if that mattered to me. For me, the gym's for sweat and the trail is for fun, my brand of fun.

[@DarbyStrong-w7g]

@redbomberr4594 never met a gym rat who could keep up with me on cardio either.

[@redbomberr4594]

@@DarbyStrong-w7g Wouldn't doubt it, most of the guys I work out with in the gym couldn't keep up with a snail across the carpark. However, did I say I only ride on single trails? Sorry, I also build them.

[@jonm7272]

I do both, I regularly do 60km, 1500m climb cross country rides on my analogue hardtail and average at least 100km a week on my full rigid 'road' bike for my morning commute. I also have an ebike, on my last ebike ride I averaged 130bpm heart rate over 50km and peaked at over 180 bpm. The assumption that ebike rides are always easy is bollox. The assumption that ebikers ONLY ride ebikes is also bollox. Saying that, I don't like seeing ebikes on GMBN, we do need to see our peers riding proper analogue bikes to give us inspiration and anyway, the ebikes have their own channel.

[@plainuser48596]

ebikes are cool, ebikers often are not, but not a rule. How hard is it to slow down and say "hi" instead of riding like you're annoyed that somebody slower is ahead and you need to pass them somehow.

[@redbomberr4594]

I always say hi when I catch up to riders on up hills. I usually slow down and stay at a casual distance behind, have a chat with them about trail conditions, the weather. Don't know why they don't talk much though, all that huffin' and puffin' makes it a bit hard I expect 🧐

[@10100110101]

Because most e-mtbers have only been riding since e-mtbs have been available. Not etiquette, no trail respect. I could go on and on

[@redbomberr4594]

@@10100110101 I'm not sure this is true, at least in my area. I would expect that most people starting in a new hobby are more likely to spend a little bit first, see if they like it. As we know, emtbs usually come with a big price tag.

[@JeffMTBinVA]

I think mountain biking is cool. We don't need 7 hours of Enduro coverage, we just need a good 1-2 hour condensed show. Ride whatever bike you want, have fun. I personally don't get the gravel bike, I would just get an XC.

[@gmbn]

I do currently watch every highlights video and a fair bit of coverage from the athletes themselves. I would definitely watch an hour long show too. I just find it funny that there's loads of people online who claim live streams would be a)possible and b)good to watch 😅 More isn't always the answer I guess. Tom

[@Andy_ATB]

WRC only went fully live 5-6 years ago, and that's been around since 1973; live coverage is expensive to produce, especially multi stage events. People expecting live coverage of Enduro are in dreamland; even motorcycle Enduro doesn't have it, and Hard Enduro only has one event live, and that's a single venue; Red Bull Erzbergrodeo.

[@tonkshred]

Love it mr Ashton, the fundamentals of what you need to ride bikes in the mountains !! TRIALS! 🎉🎉🎉

[@andyarchitect]

The most fun bike i rode this year was an electric fat cargo bike 😅 It was a Tern Orox with 27.5 x 5 tires and no suspension... capable of carrying 2 kids on the back. The cockpit feels like an mtb and it encourages you to ride anywhere and push its limits until you remember there is no suspension except the tires. Its really fun though😊 so i guess not all mountain biking needs a traditional mtb.

[@duncanicook]

A flat bared gravel bike is a ridged 29er mtb

[@jacksonbangs6603]

As a big roadie biker, I now ride a Giant 29er hartail mountain bike. It handles gravel roads and single track better than my Trek touring bicycle.

[@KuroSanArts]

Gravel biking was invented so the roadies could ride off road without admitting they actually like mountain biking.... :p

[@1monkeyflower]

Or mountain bikers that want ride road but can’t admit they like road biking. Yeah na nobody likes road bikers.

[@redbomberr4594]

Nice, never thought of that. However, I can't imagine a worse transition for a roadie than a gravel bike on dirt. They really need full sus. biggest bike they can still ride. Less chance of them killing themselves on those sweeping turns on gravel roads. Plus, less chance of them hitting me.

[@steveptasznik6147]

​@1monkeyflower Once you go dirt you can't go back to spandex road.

[@martynashtonGMBN]

[@GrahamFootBicycleLover]

Hangon, you just featured one of my Bigfoot bikes in the Bike Vault, it had Ozone stickers on it (long story). We built one up for a young trials rider at the Malverns Martin, he rode with you. I guess that's where you saw it.

[@OwenBikeNerd]

Oh wait that Ozone - was actually a Bigfoot - ooh - tell us more - do you have any pictures and more info? Cheers Owen

[@dbubble10]

Wasn’t the winner of the peatys competition supposed to be announced today on the dirt shed show???

[@AlBorland3877]

Yeah, man! Was about to ask the same question.

[@gmbn]

We'll get the winners out to you next week

[@h.feller416]

For most people somewhat "boring" bikes with travel between 120 and 140mm, less aggressive geometry and mid range specs are where it's at (or even hardtails)! Most people don't ride in places where they need an Enduro bike, don't ride as good that they benefit from highest specs and so on. But the reasonable choice isn't the one that creates any desire or promotes riding on your personal limits all the time. Most bikes are bought for the dreams we never really achieve, not for the fun we could have if we would be true to ourselves and put skills before specs...

[@Paul-q3q6u]

E gravel bikes...are they a thing yet? What a combination

[@Cous1nJack]

1:00 biking off road in the countryside is arguably more ‘mountain biking’ than riding a trail centre with sculpted ‘features’ 5:00 if you think it’s cool, it’s not cool

[@cewatkins4049]

E-bikes (pedal assist) are mountain bikes, but I would argue that they further make the sport more exclusionary. If beginner to intermediate trails are to be actually maintained while having a user base that finds them too "easy" due to a 10k motorized version of the sport, then the trail organizations will buck the trend of every other institution to kowtow to the desires of their loudest/wealthiest members.

[@redbomberr4594]

Valid concern. However, our sport is built around A and B lines. I'm a builder and ride MTB & eMTB, we always maintain A and B lines (sometimes C) regardless of up or down. A lines aren't necessarily about rider capability, it's about the context of each rider in the moment. I.e.: are they on an MTB, eMTB or a Gravel Bike, do they have the necessary skill, did they maintain the correct speed, trail conditions and how confident they're feeling on the day. I can't speak for all builders, but I don't know any that doesn't have these thoughts in the back of their mind with every feature designed into a trail.

[@10100110101]

It’s caused a lot of new trails to only have super steep climbs back to the top, too. We don’t all want to ride an overpriced, noisey and clunky motorised bike

[@Ukfamine2025]

I used to love building and customising bikes. These days its too hard to buy parts i want. My passion has gone. I want to see my bikes gone. Not wasting anymore money on mtb industry.

[@LaurentiusTriarius]

22:33 the Lapierre picture is as good as the Marin in the Alps if you ask me. Great pics this week 😊

[@kennethcampbell7263]

Unpopular opinion but I agree with Owen. Probably not if your using a trail gravel bike with drop bars then probably not, but they still should be strong enough for a green or a blue maybe not a black. One of many great things for fat bike is wider tyre reduces environmental impact. The other two big ones is Snow and Sand. What ever you do Martyn remember the Glass cup isn't a stunt mug. Those trail rakes are basically fire rake which is either an Australian Volunteer Firefighters invention/tool or the same of the US.

[@simonm1447]

Unpopular opinion - anything with a drop bar cannot be mountainbiking. It can be gravel biking or road biking, but a mountainbike has no drop bar, otherwise it is no longer a real mountainbike.

[@cgrocho47]

Exactly... there are a number of reasons flat bars were put on early rigid mountain bikes.

[@ManchurianCounterweight]

I agree, because Pils can't do tricks on a drop bar, and if Pils can't send it, it must be horrific. He can send a bedframe and a Penny farthing.

[@redbomberr4594]

Ah, but if you ride said dropped bar bike on single track, is the rider a mountain biker?

[@redbomberr4594]

@@ManchurianCounterweight Actually, he can. Que Mr. Ashton.....

[@simonm1447]

@redbomberr4594 you can ask the same question, is a fighter pilot a fighter pilot if he flies an airliner? At the moment he flies the airliner he's an airliner pilot.

[@scottstidston7850]

Just an option and not ment to be unpopular but there is not enough of Anna on the channel! She’s great and my misses isn’t a mountain biker but loves it when Anna is on.

[@scottstidston7850]

Opinion rather sorry the tube won’t let me edit.

[@Josh-io5uh]

I absolutely love how gravel bikers are rediscovering mountain biking... from the 90s

[@GeekonaBike]

I don't own a Groad bike & I don't want one, but riding/under biking my CX bike on trails is a Hoot. PS worrying about "being cool" in Uncool

[@sadiejones7991]

Happy Thanksgiving everyone

[@The_Iainternet]

The 2 kilos in money… I liked that 🤣🤣 😳

[@mikej1348]

What if the e-bike was instead powered by an assisted gas powered motor. What it cease to be a mountain bike?

[@gmbn]

If it works when you pedal it and doesn't give you unlimited speed, arguably not. If it's on a throttle, then yes.

[@gogofastful]

​@@gmbnpedal assist bikes still have a throttle, it's just controlled by spinning the cranks.

[@rotorblade7363]

Fat bikes are awesome. I stand by that comment.

[@tizio_gono5936]

Here in Switzerland e-bikes are a problem, there are hundreds of grandmas with enduro e-bikes worth 8000 bucks that find out about the things that their bike can do, and try to hit trails at 80 years old, slowing down younger riders and hurting themselves

[@alexisbmtb]

Imagine getting older and still wanting to do the sport you love. The very cheek

[@alsmith7353]

The Raleigh Chopper is the best dirt jump bike

[@RichardMaguire110]

Cycling is cycling and a bicycle is a bicycle, enjoy it.

[@did4h2k]

i just like bikes! be it a gravel/road/mountain/ebike/cruiser bike - i enjoy riding it!

[@alansmith2593]

Hey Gmbn dudes Also, after watching Rich’s video about riding in the rain, I of course headed straight over to GMBN shop to buy sone waterproof trousers but alas, doesn’t seem like you have any.

[@robbchastain3036]

Caption: "Steve staying comfy while his stunt-double does the work outside." 😀

[@ProWhiteAntiJew]

1099 British pounds for a steel hardtail... looks at pile of old steel bike frames that no one wants. Looks at used bikes for 100$ thousands of complete steel and aluminum bikes that people are trying to get rid of. Insanity. The bike world is truly criminal. What world do we live in where a pedal bike costs more than a whole functioning car or motorcycle!?!??!?!?

[@alansmith2593]

Yo Owen They’ve got drop bars………drop bars A gravel bike is a road bike with fat tires. A gravel bike with flat bars is a mountain bike. 😆😊😋 Ps love your vids by the way and admire your techy and history knowledge. Just drop bars road Flat bars mountain please 😆😊

[@hammy-on-a-bike]

Caption Contest: Steve felt personally victimised when he learned about Owens love of fat bikes while listening to the podcast on his commute.

[@johngreen787]

I agree with Seppster,all mountain biking is mountain biking 🚵‍♂️, 🤘

[@topherheath3843]

Why not have one of every type of bike and do every type of riding?

[@knowwhey7559]

I'm a full-on mountain biker who proudly 'clip-clops' around while looking down on 'flat boys' and their lack of confidence.

[@kurtkalauch6053]

Next week, are motorcycles mountain biking

[@redbomberr4594]

Better still, is sweating your ass off grinding uphill the only thing that counts as mountain biking? If so, that can be done in a gym.

[@gogofastful]

​@@redbomberr4594 There are no hills in the gym.

[@redbomberr4594]

@@gogofastful True, but there are hills on roads if cadence, power, heartrate and elevation is all you're interested in. I.e.: exercise. I do all that in the gym, what's wrong with just riding for stoke?

[@BikingBadwithTC]

Ride what you got and you’ll be smiling, that’s all that matters.

[@johngreason9964]

Mountain Biking was born from Cali surfers getting tanked on hills and racing beach cruisers on fire roads back down. Sound familiar? Gravel rides are great for the soul. Kick back, relax, pedaling along. Sight see, listen, and take a break. I do them on my enduro based EMTB when I just need to chill out. Is the EMTB'r a mountain biker? Yes. Mountain biking is the subject. The type of is a detail. Example : John is a mountain biker. He rides (insert discipline) on a (insert bike). Is mountain biking cool? Here we are. Grown adults playing pedal bikes in the woods. No, we aren't cool. But what we are is a niche culture, globally connected, a community. Moto guys are cool. Cheers,

[@guilhermehorta9285]

I don’t get people who hate e-bikes or gravel or anything like that. You can just not ride those bikes. It’s just that simple. Road bike (skinny tires and Lycra) on the other hand should be illegal

[@johnsonjay60]

A bike, is a bike, is a bike..a vehicle composed of two wheels held in a frame one behind the other, propelled by pedals and steered with handlebars attached to the front wheel. 🤙

[@45graham45]

Unless it has an engine or motor & then it's a motor bike. Hence the name, motor bike.

[@martynashtonGMBN]

So true.

[@ChrisCapoccia]

E-bikes aren't cheating, but in the US, due to federal law, e-bikes are currently prohibited from lots of mountain bike areas in the national parks / national forests

[@lonewanderer2287]

You only need one bike. A HT.

[@sgtbinko2739]

Dunno about trials,but the best mtbers i know came fron bmx racing

[@coltonowens2742]

People losing their mind about class 1 e-mtbs make me laugh. I ride my Amish bike a ton, but I rock an e-bike too, because the singletrack experience gets really close to my dirt bike. This stuff isn't just about fitness, it's supposed to be fun to...

[@yodapig]

Exactly, you can own more than one bike... and choose which one best suits your ride.

[@redbomberr4594]

Spot on

[@gogofastful]

Amish bike = dumbest name ever. Non motorized bikes don't need to be renamed.

[@chargeriderepeat7024]

Er cyclocross, I bought my Viscount Aerospace 40 years ago off the back of Viscount team rider John Atkins success.

[@ianswopeexhibits5289]

There’s not too much wrong with e bikes. But many places have had to fight for trail access with local trail system organizations. Much of the time these negotiations involve the term “Human powered” to distinguish mountain bikes from motorbikes. E-bikes make that complicated.

[@DirtlovR]

I must confess something: last weekend I rode an ebike...and I liked it. It this heresy? Am I getting old?

[@the_guy345]

caption contest was wayyy to funny 😂😂

[@cornishcactus]

#captioncontest Steve gets to Bikepark Wales in the Mini Clubman and realises his bike must be somewhere on the A470.

[@timwheeler8618]

How do you actually define a gravel bike? Perhaps an ATB? Or realistically a hybrid. Not as efficient on road and limited off road.

[@CameronMoore-ds5bi]

#captioncontest "When you pull into the bike park, and the second you unload your bike, the chain falls off, your tire goes flat, and you realise your axs batteries never even charged... guess the only thing you’re shredding today is your hopes and dreams"

[@GrahamFootBicycleLover]

Owen, what is a mountain bike? is it an ATB? If so a mountain bike should be able to ride over All Terrain. This is only achievable with a Fatbike!

[@chrisvincent1189]

#CAPTION CONTEST ... When you turn up for an epic mountainous ride on an ebike, and the batteries are flat!!

[@Grant3399]

#CAPTIONCONTEST Steve Jones riding an all new winter ebike with a fully enclosed cabin… ebiking is going a bit too far with this one

[@andyarchitect]

Not a fan of the term "flat bar gravel bike" but essentially its exactly the same thing as a "rigid mtb". The key difference is whether you wear roadie or mtb clothing 😂

[@mikeyorath8361]

That lock that holds the brake on is useless, I can't believe people buy them, and use them on motorcycles over a disc lock.... Two seconds with and pair of snips on the brake hose and it's it's doing nothing 😂

[@jamesrohner3792]

In the US there is a brand called Rouge Hoes that initially were for fire fighters but are great trail building tools

[@redbomberr4594]

Thx mate, I'll check them out

[@StrikerBravo-hm8lc]

#Captioncontest: When you spend your life savings on a wireless derailleur so you drive 2 hours to a bike park just to realize you have forgot the battery at home.

[@Kev2Bee]

Klein Mantra. Absolutely horrible. Broke the rear triangle twice. Broke my neck crashing on this bike.

[@bazxtrail]

Why does the industry have to pigeon hole everything? Do we not ride a mtb on gravel? So, road bike, mtb, gravel bike, x country...down country!? So are we looking at forest bikes, canal bikes next. All we had was fire roads back in the day, and we rode them on mountain bikes! We used to have one bike that could do it all, you make it what you want 🤙👊🏼 just have fun..

[@bazxtrail]

Edit to the above, this is a cool debate...e-bikes, make mountain biking accessible to everyone...we could go on forever...love the dirt shed show 🤙👊🏼

[@SubversionGarage]

100% need a Blake Christmas tree ornament!

[@carlfjeldstadlarsson5343]

Peaty's Winner!

[@gmbn]

Congratulations

[@MikeDS49]

A flat bar gravel bike is just a hybrid they used to sell a decade or two ago.

[@nacnud2323]

Is mountain biking cool, no. Is it fun, yes.

[@creekboi7]

Hows it gowen, Owen?

[@ChrisCapoccia]

Martyn is really good at trolling 😆

[@Psymonfox]

#Captioncontest: Someone slipped up and told Steve that Neil was coming to EMBN and he was now going to have to start reviewing analog bikes.

[@tracicooper7443]

The bicycle was always human powered that's what made it so awesome. Some day in the near future olny athletes will ride real bikes I already see it with older adults.

[@johnodonoghue3188]

#captioncontest "Jonsey sheds a single tear at the thought of yet another trip to the Re-charger Centre in his flatbed truck full of dead Emtb batteries!!"

[@Bonky-wonky]

Another unpopular opinion, GMBN has become the wackiest mtb channel.

[@MarcMcCormic.26x4Fatbike]

This lock is a hack, l can put it of in 35 sec. Even less. On a bike, or a motorcycle. I had contact them to upgrade this, but they didn't response yet ahah 😅

[@digital.olimon]

Unpopular opinion: mountain bike pricing is fully valid

[@davegravitt210]

What did you do to the bell? 🤯 It sounds lethargic. 😂 Or is that just you Martyn? 😂