We Shattered a Community - WAN Show March 3, 2023

[@NoKi1119]

Now we need to know how many tech pouches fit in the backpack, and how many of those fit in a tesla, and how many teslas fit in the lab, and... -Timestamps- [0:00] *Chapters.* [1:23] *Intro.* [1:53] *Topic #1: TARKOV community in shambles.* > 2:36 Cheater wiggle, g0at's impact in the community. > 6:02 Mods deleting posts, WAN Show clip was a loophole. > 9:23 Tiers of participation, Sherpa, comparing to Apple. > 13:40 Streamers & community reactions, discussing game cheats. > 17:18 Implications of cheating, last game standing? > 20:52 Refunding gears, Luke on anti-cheat & replay systems. > 23:44 Banned streamers "drop kits", Linus on QOL mechanic. > 26:56 TARKOV COO responds, community response to posts. > 28:59 Linus on Steam trading & virtual value, Luke on WAN clip. > 31:09 Banning cheaters "for more money," suggested features. > 35:54 g0at viewer count after last WAN Show. [36:28] *Topic #2: Millennial pause.* > 38:39 Linus's interests, defines a millennial pause. > 40:05 Linus's "rant" while showcasing a millennial pause. > 42:37 Luke on zoomers watching more YT, Linus's Note 9. > 44:20 Wikipedia article, Linus on preshow & unsynced WAN. > 47:49 Millennial stereotypes, Linus's mom's microwave story. > 50:08 Linus's school past, Wikipedia versus dictionary. > 52:29 History of videos, retail therapy, boomer benefits. > 55:16 Linus on LMG, compensations & real estate. > 1:00:14 Luke on grocery prices, Linus's $20 pasta. [1:04:23] *Topic #3: IOC declares Esports for Olympics 2024.* > 1:05:38 Luke on odd game choices, Linus tries Tic Tac Bow. > 1:10:42 Luke covers list of games, discussing chess. > 1:15:08 Zwift cycling, DDR idea, racing games. > 1:21:29 Virtual regatta, taekwondo's indie console. [1:24:53] *Sponsors.* > 1:25:12 Thorum's hand-made rings ft. Luke opening the case. > 1:26:37 The Ridge's wallet. > 1:27:29 Zoho One ft. Dennis ad spot. [Cont.] *Topic #3: IOC declares Esports for Olympics 2024.* > 1:28:40 Skyrim in the Olympics topic point. [1:29:31] *LTTStore's new tech pouch ft. Linus's items.* > 1:35:46 Pouch's size to be updated, new 2023 stickers. > 1:38:32 Printed t-shirts back in stock. [1:39:32] *Merch Messages #1 ft. Subathon WAN show idea.* > 1:40:25 Why does LTT tech pouch look similar to Peak Design's? > 1:43:52 Follow-up to uncensored WAN Show's monetization. > 1:45:00 Linus's biggest regret related to LMG? [1:52:56] *Topic #4: Luke's past with LTT & NCIX.* > 1:56:24 Luke on taxes & his friend's wage, Linus on "moats." > 1:59:22 Luke slept when recording Linus for NCIX. > 2:01:27 Linus explains his analogy, Dan on the Christmas album. [2:04:12] *Merch Messages #2.* > 2:04:19 Talking about Luke's house. [2:06:22] *Topic #5: AMD challenge update.* > 2:06:30 Linus & Luke on heat rising. > 2:09:22 Luke's mineral oil cases, LMG on mineral oil cooling. > 2:11:32 Linus will build one if Luke daily drives it. > 2:13:02 Luke's drives, Linus suggests mineral oil NAS. > 2:16:05 Luke's past stolen items, PC systems. > 2:20:26 Playing Bandminton versus Steven. > 2:20:56 Luke on bird-harming chemicals. [2:21:11] *Topic #6: Nokia's G22 repairable phone.* > 2:22:00 1080p 60Hz or 720p 90Hz? Discussing warranty. > 2:27:04 Generational improvement of phones. [2:29:46] *LTTStore leather screwdriver holster mock-up.* > 2:33:28 FP poll: boxer or briefs? [2:33:59] *Topic #7: Ford's patent for a self-towing car.* > 2:36:36 Linus on Tesla's LIDAR software, summary of Ford's patent. [2:39:32] *Topic #8: Ludwig's microvan stolen, Redditor helps return it.* > 2:39:47 Linus's car & luxury tax. [2:42:54] *Topic #9: RTX Video Super Resolution webcam upscaling.* [2:52:42] *Merch Messages #3.* > 2:52:46 Linus's thunderbolt dual closet boxes reliability? > 2:54:37 How do you keep up with your tech skills? > 2:57:28 Home owner's horror stories? > 3:04:40 Stranded on an island, What in your LTT backpack ensures your survival? > 3:05:13 Does FloatPlane plan or helps with open sourcing? > 3:06:56 Worst on-hold call you ever had? > 3:10:56 Thoughts on AI ghosts? > 3:11:34 How will Labs & its site make revenue? any subscription? > 3:12:43 Did you know LTT watebottle handles 300'C for 4 hours? > 3:13:19 Creators Linus spoke to who are coming to LTX? > 3:14:36 Handing the company to Linus's kids? Any ideas? > 3:19:48 Progress on selling PTM7950 to LTTStore? [Cont.] *LTTStore's new tech pouch.* > 3:20:35 Tech pouch now has its dimensions on the site. [Cont.] *Merch Messages #3.* > 3:21:05 Updated Z-stick software? more home automation videos? [3:22:36] *Topic #10: Linus's badminton center for Whale LAN.* [Cont.] *Merch Messages #3.* > 3:25:56 LTTStore RGB case pin to be back in stock? > 3:26:37 Luke's inverted chicken cordon bleu. > 3:28:54 Fireworks time coincides with LTX. > 3:29:30 Anything valuable from LMG went missing? > 3:32:12 Where did the WAN Show intro come from? > 3:32:23 Open-sourcing FloatPlane & Labs? > 3:32:41 Any favorite non-Canadian food? > 3:34:35 What would give your life the most fulfillment? > 3:36:30 Favorite themed builds? > 3:36:58 What is Luke's thoughts on robotaxis? > 3:37:43 DAW benchmark progress? > 3:38:17 Technology in its infancy you're excited to see on consumers? [3:38:58] *Outro.* [3:39:32] *Slav messages Linus about a session photo.*

[@flynn3649]

Thank you

[@zerreat]

That was quick

[@Zeldon567]

Much appreciated.

[@XalphYT]

@NoKi1119 Awesome! Thank you 🎉

[@diophantine1598]

Note: on mobile I almost didn’t spot this was a time stamps list. Thanks for the time stamps.

[@TaylorMade4Zero]

I'm 1000% down for a 24 hour WAN show subathon.

[@Crosbie85]

Agreed

[@SkaPolDJ]

same

[@darkwolf2343]

yeah like a tv channel bring on dennis from 4-7, linus and luke for the majority

[@l3v1ckUK]

Maybe they could do one as a charity event?

[@johnneveu1718]

I figured it was inevitable for a charity or something

[@gremblorthesackgoblin7953]

Seeing Tarkov community finally implode because of the creators negligence is like a itch you couldn't scratch being finally got.

[@officerminiwheats]

This is years and years overdue for the developers really. People just like making excuses for them and content creators arent helping

[@hop-skip-ouch8798]

I follow a streamer who used to be a tarkov player. He was a laughing his ass off when this whole thing came out. He's been complaining about the shitty servers and people who defend the company for quite some time and finally got fed up and left the game.

[@07george100]

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[@gabrielmickel7917]

✅ 😅kkeit

[@Tortoise7597]

This episode is the perfect length for driving from Appleton Wisconsin to Gary Indiana while obeying the speed limit in light traffic

[@maxwellgriffith]

You drove to Gary IN on purpose, or drove through it as fast as possible on the way back to civilization?

[@PontiacBonneville-ut8co]

This episode is the perfect length for driving from Bismarck North Dakota to Glendive Montana and getting stuck in an hour of construction traffic on the highway

[@kaktusgoreng]

Oddly specific, but okay

[@zzaharris]

Are we certain this isn't actually "Olympics in the Metaverse"??

[@Gusto3791]

What an oddly specific drive that I’ve had to make before.

[@raynjpg]

making dennis part of the sponsor/ad team was an excellent decision

[@cszqravr]

The bow game and the Taekwondo game are literally owned by someone on the committee that chose the games. 100% legit and unbiased selection

[@jackwayne4570]

i’d expect nothing less from the olympics

[@TheRogueWolf]

Corruption?! In _MY_ Olympics?!

[@entitledOne]

Next you're gonna tell me that FIFA is corrupt as well!

[@DankNugs42]

I'm watching them talk about this now, are they not going to even mention this?? This is like the main detail in this whole thing! Did they not actually research this topic?

[@Yuzzy1234]

Not only that but the Taekwondo game has a special motion reciever which is also made by the same person on the comittee.

[@DjSoundStorm]

You guys didn't kill anything you did all of us who play Tarkov a massive favor. And getting an overall awesome dude like goat out in front of all of the people who needed to see his work was clutch. Thank you.

[@officerminiwheats]

And also a 5 year old problem. Clearly Luke doesnt play as much as he suggests he does

[@DjSoundStorm]

@@officerminiwheats Well it could be that or some of the deeper issues were kind of... lost on him. So a lot of us that no life the game have a bit of a better grasp on certain aspects but if you are super casual I do think some of this stuff can get missed as to just how much of an issue it is. Just my personal take on it!

[@dobber43]

@@infernaldaedra there's a massive difference in knowing cheating is a big problem and seeing it first person plus most cheating in tarkov is low key enough it can be very hard to know for certain someone was cheating so unless ur jaded most of the time ud give it benefit of the doubt

[@fusn1346]

This.

[@letssuperfuntime]

​@@officerminiwheatsthat's not entirely fair. I've been playing as long as he has; possibly longer. And I still wasn't aware of the sheer SCALE of the issue until it was presented in such a visual way, which I suspect is the reason that the reaction to the video was so visceral (from the community and the Devs). And I play on EU servers, which by all accounts is rampant with cheaters.

[@deliode1211]

The 24hr wan show should be titled "WAN will it end?"

[@552jacki3]

That is genius

[@theinspiringengineer-scien6393]

Hahaha :D

[@FreshApplePie]

after 24 hours

[@saulmejia627]

​@@FreshApplePie XD

[@krookt]

Golden! HAHA

[@RobAryeeArc]

41:38 Linus, the WAN Show is 3 hours and 40 minutes long this week. Of course we don't have time for you to blink and inhale. Have a great week everyone.

[@ku0n349]

About the generational differences. Like 3 years ago I saw my brother (12 at the time) work on a school project on Google docs with his friends all at the same time and it was then when it hit me. If my parents at that age had to work on a school project, they had to go to a friends house or stay after school or everyone do their part and put together the project at school. When I had to do the same, we would just use email and send the same document edited back and forth just putting together our parts. And then my brother just works on it with his classmates all at the same time... It's honestly impressive how you don't even notice when things change, but when you less realize it, they have been like that for a while

[@proctoscopefilms]

Damn that's such a better way. Would've saved so much time.

[@vicious6744]

I can barely sit through a 20 minute video yet can sit down wand watch this whole thing in one sitting. You guys are doing something right here and I hope it never stops

[@captainufo4587]

I don't technically "sit through". I love to have podcasts going on while I work.

[@JJayToKlamca]

Wireless headphones, Saturday morning, entire house cleaned in

[@MichielScholten]

@@JJayToKlamca are you me? :D

[@henrik.norberg]

I cringe hard when I see a video longer than 30 minutes, when I see a WAN show shorter than 3 hours I feel sad...

[@esaedvik]

Personally, I can't watch videos that are shorter than like 15 minutes. Just a massive waste of time to keep clicking on new videos or adding them to a queue.

[@daniwalmsley611]

Luke yelling "they watch 4 hours" implying we don't care about the topics we'll watch absolutely anything is so hurtfully true

[@Nderak]

you here four hour!

[@majapaja_]

I mean yeah I'm just here for the vibes yknow

[@madbruv]

Im here for the feeling of friends..

[@TheChemizzle]

@@madbruv why you gotta hit me with reality like that bro

[@theRPGmaster]

@@madbruv Same, bro, same. 😐

[@DailyCorvid]

This years WAN show are blowing my head off every time, wow and appreciated!

[@ryanclark3823]

I'm here for the 3+hour shows, I listen at work and it keeps me going

[@jaydhelvie]

Same

[@Julio-vg4el]

same

[@samspencer4461]

LINUS: "I DON'T CALL IT MERCH" ALSO LINUS: "DON'T USE SUPER CHATS, SEND MERCH MESSAGES INSTEAD'

[@haydenb123]

I was just thinking this!

[@SergirothGames]

I guess he is on about that he doesn’t call it merch, but we do, so he uses the word… catch 22?

[@jkahgdkjhafgsd]

what he actually said: "I don't like calling it merch" @1:42:20

[@JackPorter]

understandable, buy some stickers or other merchandise if you want to send a message. but he doesn't just want to sell shirts and stickers (merch) he wants to sell products that are designed and manufactured by them, that have a reasonable prices that aren't artificially inflated by branding but by reliability and reviews.

[@AltonV]

@@JackPorter could buy gift cards

[@DetroitTintStudio]

I’m stuck between watching parts of wan show live or binging the whole thing afterwards. Almost 4hrs again, let’s goooo! 🎉

[@jacobbench9402]

The weekly 3+ hour podcast is insane! Keep up the good work!

[@Patrick.Howie.]

You have a low insanity bar

[@GregoryShtevensh]

It's psychologically abnormal and extreme with signs of mania and paranoia for sure! I hope they keep it up also

[@skitzojedi2505]

Right. I get to fall asleep to WAN show well into the week now and the next night need to try and find the last story I remember hearing.

[@courtney5796]

They just love and miss each other 🤣🤣🤣

[@grn1]

I've started watching while I'm at the gym but I don't exactly spend 4 hours at the gym so I have to pause then finish at home (sometimes I'll play a game while watching). Today I ended up spending a bit over 2 hours at the gym, the first hour I walk the treadmill (fast enough that I'm already soaked in sweat by the end) then the rest of the time I'll work on either leg, upper body push, or upper body pull muscles (today was a pull day). Can't go very often so I try to go hard enough to make it worth it. I used to watch while taking a walk (about 1.5 hours) but here in Ohio we don't get exactly get warm and not rainy weather most of the year (same reason I haven't bought a motorcycle, hard to justify when I can't enjoy it most of the year).

[@zoopa9988]

Luke talking about how he didn't get scammed but realized that it's expensive to run a restaurant made me think about when I hired someone to construct/place a door at the bottom of my stairs and seal all the open space between the steps. It cost me around 2000 euros, but the material and the door he had to buy to build it all cost about 800 euros, so he actually "only" earned 1200 euros at most.

[@Innuya]

Gotta pay for the business overhead too, taxes, opportunity cost etc

[@zoopa9988]

@@Innuya Yeah, 1200 at most, but it's probably more like 900 or something, and I believe there were two people, and they may have needed two days to do it, not sure, was some time ago.

[@Dracossaint]

@@zoopa9988 how long were the days of work? consider calculating how much their wage was an HR and how much ya paying for their experience.

[@daxconnell7661]

800 euros for a door? wow can it take a tank shell ?

[@zoopa9988]

​@@daxconnell7661 The door was 400, I said "the material AND the door he had to buy to build it all cost about 800 euros" he also had to seal all the open space between the steps and had to place small amounts of wooden paneling to seal/connect everything in its entirety, it's complicated since I wanted the door in an unusual spot. The door is "fireproof" however, it can withstand flames for 30 minutes.

[@Kwalk1989]

Linus is a huge inspiration, in a world where everyone sells out he didn't. Kudos my bro, it would have been hard to say no to that amount of money.

[@jamesu3816]

Dude Linus is cool but to imply he didn't sell out when he has his own merch store and is the largest tech KZbinr with tons of sponsors is silly.

[@Kwalk1989]

@@jamesu3816 to imply he did sell out would depend on your definition of "selling out". Is any KZbinr selling merch a sell out?

[@SambaJones97]

@@jamesu3816 having merch and sponsors isn't selling out. Making money isn't selling out. selling out is losing your integrity for money. Clearly not the case when they drop companies like Anker when they do crappy things

[@alexschubert]

Thank you luke for bringing up the fact that the restaurants are not making as much money now and that sector is getting squeezed, it's truly a race to the bottom for some companies.

[@Adamsgotgame]

I've been playing for over 30 years and pvp is almost completely dead in games for me. Great thoughts today guys. You helped the greater good here.

[@ForeChin99]

Idk why but last two sentences made me nose exhale with above average strength

[@GrandNebSmada]

So happy you guys aren't chickening out from the long shows, absolutely love it!!!

[@FrankHouwelingBoskoop]

"They'll watch 4 hours, whatever!" Never have I felt so disrespected, and understood.

[@TheZachafina]

Permanent Anti-Cheat Idea: That might or might not work at all, but would be hilarious to watch the aftermath. Say a confirmed cheater is found in a shooter game. Instead of banning them. Force update their game with a wonky patch. Just a tiny bit of permanent coding that stays with their system buried somewhere deep in the config, personal, or game files that forces their cross hair to drift away from other players. Like anti magnetic bullets. Hide the file, and log the i.p./system. I dunno. Just sounds fun lol

[@stiller_mensch]

My idea: when a cheater is detected his matchmaking changes, that he only plays against other cheaters.

[@hop-skip-ouch8798]

There's a youtuber who does that in a way. He makes fake cheating software and uploads them for people to download. When someone runs those scripts, instead of helping, they hurt the player. Character points up on fire, turns around, can't run etc.

[@acasualmusiclistener7919]

@@stiller_mensch this can happen in some games when you're shadow banned

[@MarioGoatse]

Big ups to the new WAN Show writer. I’ve tried to get into WAN Show in the past, and was always interested, but it was more of a background thing that I left on. Now it feels like the format and topics keep my attention much better. Whether that’s the result of the new writer or not I’m not exactly sure, but I’m definitely more engaged. Really loving it lately. Love Dan too.

[@averageoldie1901]

A good thing came outta this Tarkov drama. The other subreddit, r/Tarkov, increased the amount of members by nearly 3 times. That subreddit actually allow mostly free speech. We even had many discussions about SPT-AKI (A single player mod for Tarkov, that allow further modding. No forms of online play available), and the creators of SPT saw an influx of new players aswell.

[@BatJeff]

I heard that Nikita said on the main subreddit that the spt mod is bannable now, which is insane to me.

[@averageoldie1901]

@@BatJeff They have never liked SPT and as far as I know, it have always been bannable. But they cant tell if people are using it, since it runs a local hosted "server" for each raid and have its own launcher. Only way for them to know (according to BSG), is having both SPT and offical EFT running at the same time. So thats a big no no. And yeah, its completely insane. If anything, BSG should reach out to the SPT folks and get them on board to create a official Single player / Co-op mode to EFT. They lose nothing but open up another market for the game.

[@huantian]

Listening to Linus and Luke talking about multiplayer and single player games makes me realize how different gaming is to me as an indie, puzzle, automation, and rhythm game player. The only competitive multiplayer game I really play is Tetris lmao

[@sninker2013]

@@PippetWhippet bro just made a Grand Canyon sized assumption based off 2 words

[@adsads196]

Yeah, gaming is so different to everyone. To some people it's to play with friends (well kinda was for me too like 8 years ago when I had friends but that was very long ago). For me it's playing single-player games with a story or if more gameplay focused with an interesting twist. It's fascinating how huge gaming has become.

[@vaporzombie487]

​@@sninker2013must be projecting some skill issue with that haunted barrow lol

[@AndrewB23]

@@infernaldaedra imagine being a proud basement dweller lol

[@EximiusDux]

People can be die hard gamers to the core without playing any multiplayer games. Those people probably actually finish way more games than those imagining themselves to be leet pro non-casuals that only play the same 2 to 4 games for years.

[@TH3L33TM3XICAN]

I started taking care of myself at the age of 14 and about ten years later have gotten a new job almost yearly since then. I think its because places of work are always trying to save money and dont pay what we are qualified for, I am sure some others can relate. A good example, at my current job I am getting 18 h/r have gone to college, business programs, received certifications and have worked for ten years while a kid out of highschool I work with gets the same pay and benefits as me.

[@grn1]

I'm getting 17.50 per hour at a dead end factory job (the people are nice and the company is pretty lax overall but I don't see myself retiring from it). I run a press, no certifications or external education, just a few too many years working at factories. Need to get my act together and find a more fulfilling job but I also keep seeing a lot of post like yours talking about how they make barely more than I do (sometimes less) with a ton of education (and probably a ton more debt). Still want a more fulfilling job, or at least one where I can sit on my arse and not handle toxic chemicals and breath toxic fumes for preferably 36-40 hours a week. I've thought about going into business for myself but that's also quite scary and I know the hours could be worse rather than better though I'd have a better shot at making enough money to actually retire by the age of 100 (assuming I'm still alive and kicking). Also not sure what business I'd go into for myself but I'm not getting any younger (and I wish I'd done something more when I was young).

[@ApeBlin]

I have a college degree and my current job doesn't have anything to do with it and I get paid a lot more than what I was paid for at the job I got because of said degree. What a weird situation. Good thing I went to college because I wanted to learn more about the subject and not just to get a job.

[@bigman5125]

3:04:57 I joked with myself that LTT were going to launch a tent after Linus got out of some nice tents in the Labs video. This now confirms it and I am eagerly awaiting the LTT tent.

[@tobiwonkanogy2975]

Tech tent ! Solar , phone charger , pull down " theatre screen " , snack pockets and shade guards. XD

[@JinghisKhan]

@@tobiwonkanogy2975 Linus Tech Tips Tents! LTTT! LT-Cubed! The commercials right themselves!

[@a-aron2276]

Linus's tiny tents

[@SniperTeamTango]

You two could banter over the better ways to watch paint dry and I would still probably check in every week because of how passionately conversation is so Luke is oind of right

[@saccaed]

Tarkov should have a replay system for entire matches after they close. Real time kill cams don't work for a game like Tarkov. An end of match replay is no problem at all aside from working out the logistics of access and distribution.

[@Menwulf20]

Or at least the ability to mark deaths as suspicious. Then have the killcam saved, but only shown in the main menu much later so no positions in a running game are compromised.

[@CreativeMindsAudio]

As for DAW benchmarks, I'd love to help you guys with that. Sadly I'm in the US not Canada. i've been an audio engineer for ages and know a variety of plugins that can limit single core and multicore use. I think especially for mac system reviews this would be extremely helpful.

[@gimubatulo]

Damn this comment must be higher!

[@Dashadvent]

"...ain't nobody got time for me to blink and inhale." Linus inhale montages: Am I a joke to you?

[@Michaeldtimmins]

I DESPERATELY want the Dan version of the Christmas album.

[@giovanni.schiavo]

I had the same problem with my split in the bedroom. It ends up the problem was the "get the humidity/condensation to flow outside tube" thing slightly tilted toward the inside side of the wall. Easy to fix, for the third plumber who took a shot.

[@Hjorth87]

Cheaters and toxic players are some of the reasons I've just given up on multi-player. I prefer single player games instead, where I can enjoy the story or just have fun in my own way. + I have kids, it's better with games that can be paused if they wake up in the evening

[@nicholasvinen]

I play games in 10 second bursts between "daddy I'm hungry", "daddy I'm bored", "daddy my sister hit me" etc. The ability to pause is 100% necessary...

[@Hjorth87]

​@@nicholasvinen amen! Turn based strategy games are also good. Gotta admit the last two months it's been all Cyberpunk, though. Good game, I can usually clock an hour or two pr evening

[@zoopa9988]

​@@Hjorth87 You can also go for PVE Co-op shooters like Deep Rock Galactic, not really a reason for someone to ever cheat in games like that. If you like city builders I recommend trying out Anno 1800, base game has a -75% sale while the pricier editions have a -55% sale until the 9th of March.

[@TheSytak]

Goddammit having kids sounds so... demanding. 😅

[@Hjorth87]

@@TheSytak it's mostly that you may not be able to catch a break. You are ON 24/7 for some years, so gaming time can get a bit rare and precious

[@maxcamilleri7004]

A top down camera for showing off new products like the tech pouch would be pretty cool.

[@thegeneralshort1315]

There was a 2 hour interview the g0at on the Pogcast on Thursday night which is a Tarkov oriented podcast, was a lot of extra background info provided and well worth a watch, uploads to YT on Monday

[@Reverser0ll]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/oGaZY39reqiLodk

[@thegeneralshort1315]

That interview with g0at has gone up a few days early, check out The Pogcast

[@Pyroteq]

We already had the Olympics of eSports. It was called the World Cyber Games and they were around for a long time but unfortunately ended years ago due to costs I believe. Most of the game choices were good, although there was some questionable titles chosen (especially for console where Gears of War was selected over Halo 2 because Microsoft wanted to advertise the Xbox 360). But Starcraft, Halo, Quake, Unreal Tournament and Counter Strike were all represented most years it was active and it had pretty good representation from a lot of countries.

[@patrickj]

Looking back, it feels like they were ahead of their time. Financial struggle could very well be what broke their neck, in unison with a lot of big titles rather wanting to run their own events and tournaments.

[@Ulvhamne]

Speaking of moats and protecting your business, as long as you stay true to your current mission of being truthful and not selling out, your barriers to entry will protect you, but the moment you sell out, the floodgates will open. I am not saying that you will sell out, but if you do that's what'll happen. Love that you guys do proper reviews, and the whole labs thing where you will thoroughly poke holes in the lies of marketing with data is great!

[@nSnowCrow]

The eSailing virtual regatta is quite enjoyable and it is used by the sailing community. There even was a eSailing championship done recently. But I agree that we need the esports scene to make this a success.

[@BrodeyH]

Offshore VR is pretty good as well, enjoying the ocean race

[@jasonhinrichs4907]

I barely just finished last weeks WAN show and now it's time for the new one. No complaints here

[@FunzieOne]

lmao YES mineral oil! what a throwback, i originally started watching you guys in like 2015 when i wanted to learn about mineral oil PC's. would love to see a follow up

[@furykillerBZ]

I agree with Linus on the competitive advantage of data. In the past year, I got a new role in my company, and I've spent an extremely large amount of time investigating various elements of our business, and getting data where our tools don't support this easily. While time consuming, it has allowed me and my team to make decisions much more effectively, ensuring that are actions produce the outcomes we want them to. This is helped both internally and externally to raise our value and success

[@iceezander]

Regarding the millennial pause, you guys should check out the start of a Lew Later podcast! Every episode kicks off with some groovy music and Will and Lew just jump straight into conversation (almost like we’ve just joined them mid-conversation). A really interesting topic - thanks for sharing Linus

[@vuevuevue2002]

The WAN show is about the only thing I make sure to never miss each week.

[@Remmy1221]

There's a game out called The Cycle, that takes a lot of inspiration from Tarkov in its systems. I don't think it has a replay system, but it does have a post-match map where it shows your route through the map, your engagements with NPCs and players, and also "close calls" where you came within relative proximity to another player but you and them did not engage.

[@si2foo]

Honestly I think the best option would be if you kept it as a family business but adopted and adult who was capable at running the company and had the same vision as you. It is the way Japanese companies have lasts so long without becoming completely horrible.

[@BigFatCone]

Seen with a western mindset, many Japanese companies are pretty horrible. And vice versa.

[@pitmaster226]

Love the shoutout for DDR at 1:17:02 ! I’ve been improving at rhythm games for a while at MAN is there some difficult stuff!

[@hg-ir8tb]

I'm pretty sure someone already commented on this, but there are different competitions you can do for DDR. Based on my limited knowledge of the scene, there's straight up scoring (something like Konami Arcade Championship) for both single and double(-pad). There are also freestyle events for both single and double and duet freestyle events that take into consideration score/difficulty/creativity as well. Also, there are other dancing rhythm games as well, with Pump being a common parallel to DDR, Dancerush Stardom getting more popular (to the point where it landed on one of the GDQs), and Dance aRound also starting to show up in Round1's (in the USA, at the very least).

[@TheRealMrKGB]

Zwift is great. It's true you are riding a stationary bike, but it is gamified and much more that just who has the most endurance. There's a lot of strategy to the racing. Plus, it already has its own series. I'll watch that, for sure.

[@neuroticgothguy]

just wanna mention it that, Bungie with Sony and Riot have been going after cheaters and cheat makers to great effect, Bungie has won 3 lawsuits against cheat makers totaling well over several 100 million dollars. while no system is perfect, i think what they're doing is pretty great, basically you're banned if you're caught cheating, playing with cheaters, boosted by a cheater, etc.

[@grn1]

I think more publishers need to sue cheat makers though I'm sure a good chunk of cheat makers are located in places that just don't care (China, Russia, ect). I've heard Microsoft is able to effectively disconnect a lot of servers if they do something nefarious (MS owns a lot of internet infrastructure including nodes and certificate stores) though there are limits on that and they have to be careful not to get on the wrong side of law enforcement (some judges probably wouldn't care if they were doing what's right if it somehow causes them to lose money or they just don't understand how things work and are scared).

[@stunnedpanda]

53:16 It warms my heart whenever I hear someone reference Pure Pwnage. They were seriously ahead of their time.

[@lunchie80]

A-head-shot of their game? . Fps Doug ftw 😂

[@stunnedpanda]

@@lunchie80 lol nice one. The clip of FPS Doug someone uploaded on KZbin was how I was introduced to Pure Pwnage.

[@JoseEncarnacao]

As an OG Floatplane subscriber, I just wanna say that FLOATPLANE should have an internal chat-poll system, 'cause KZbin and Twitch viewers are a bit of trolls.

[@mattecrystal6403]

They should make it so that you can report people right away in game, but the report is not officially posted. Instead it will put that person into a personal report queue for you that can be viewed in a reported players tab. Then after reviewing replay footage you should be able to more accurately determine if it looks like the person was actually cheating or not and choose if you want to actually send the report or cancel it. This would make reports far more accurate, people who are just angry and report someone are less likely to send junk data because they need to take time out of their day at a later time in order to fully send the report. Then also the game should implement some sort of small incentive for reports that resulted in action taken.

[@JimmySquiky]

That's a good idea.

[@jo54763]

This, and make it mandatory to watch the whole thing through (a few minutes before your death) before you can scrub through it to examine... or at least mandatory to watch X amount of time of footage. Would dramatically decrease unbased reports.

[@mattecrystal6403]

​@@jo54763 simply forcing them to go to a report tab later and at least open the replay should be more that enough. Forcing them to watch the entire thing would make nobody actually make reports. people want to play the game not spend all day trying to make a report that they are sure about after 5 seconds of watching the replay.

[@jo54763]

@@mattecrystal6403 Right, but you're just opening the door to more trash reports if you don't at least make it somewhat of an investment from players.

[@TheChemizzle]

Over the last 5 - 10 years I have been dropping tons of games due to cheating. I started playing Halo 1 on PC when it came out and had a blast for almost 10 years playing it. While it did have cheaters, they weren't common and were very obvious and easy to deal with. When Halo 1 started to die down I ended up playing TF2, Battlefield 2, 2142, and counter strike but every single one I dropped within a few months due to cheating. I started playing PUBG with some friends and it was great at the start, then they added free loot crates you can get with coins earned by playing and it got plagued by cheaters (mostly Chinese crate farmers unfortunately, since more kills/wins = more coins). It has gotten to the point where I've quit playing any remotely competitive shooters, there are no fun ones anymore. No one likes getting shot in the head by someone on the other side of the map every other game when the player render distance isn't even half that distance. The only competitive games I play now are Rocket League and LoL where cheating isn't as common, but its still an issue to some extent (smurfs). The majority of my games are now Singleplayer or Multiplayer PvE games like KSP (KSP2 now), Warframe, FO76, 7D2D, and Payday 2 because I know that any multiplayer shooter is going to eventually be plague by cheaters and investing time or money in them is a complete waste.

[@Mrfreshhalli]

Try playing hunt showdown. In my experience there are way less cheaters in the game.

[@vaporzombie487]

Halo infinite is actually squeaky clean right now if you like Halo and season 3 look really cool

[@fluphybunny930]

Those bfs didn’t have that many cheats tbh. BFV had loads of cheats as ea dumped the game early. Free BR games like warzone are frustrating.

[@namegoeshere197]

I feel like the eu servers are fine in most games. I have 800 hrs in PUBG only seen a few cheaters. I play global in cs:go and I feel like most games are fair. Atm i plY mostly hunt showdonw. (700 hrs ) and i have only seen 3 people i was sure cheated. I don't really see alot of cheaters in any game I play

[@ruukinen]

What do you mean BF2 had lot's of cheaters? It was literally the era of cheats are pretty hard and you get them from sketchy sites.

[@Wh0isTh3D0ct0r]

I think the screwdriver holster is a neat idea, but I think there are relatively very few people who need or want to walk around all day with a screwdriver on their hip. There would be a huge boom of sales initially, but slowly people would start to realize that it's just not that practical for enough people to make it worth it.

[@mrgallbladder]

I'm a millennial and I was a job hopper for a while at one point in my life, and while it wasn't by choice, it did provide an opportunity to grow my salary substantially. Admittedly, it was in lieu of benefits like paid vacation, paid healthcare, retirement contributions, etc.

[@nathantron]

LMG Has got to be a billion dollar worth company at this point. It's such a MASSIVE Influence on the technology industry that it's nearly impossible for any other company to do the same, without illegally doing something behind the scenes.

[@dabnation2534]

I think him using the FULL interview with Luke was the best choice he ever made. and it being leaked by Linus SAVED the game. its out in the open its fix or end for Tarkov

[@hotfistVODS]

as a millennial I think we're used to devices taking a moment to actually "start" and it's natural to wait a second and verify, rather than trust that it's rolling.

[@tylerboothman4496]

My old phone did this little animation thing when it started recording. Does it start at the beginning of the animation, or at the end? I don't know 🤷

[@sadjesse]

24h WAN Show would be soooo cool! Then everyone on earth can watch them live. Linus, imagine the merch messages, LTTstore would make a killing. You could invite other tech people on the podcast, from all over the world.

[@megazombiekiller9000]

2:35:25 A similar scenario happened to my grandfather in the early 2000s on his way to work at 4am in backwoods Mississippi. Definitely remembered to lock his truck every time after that.

[@lollington_bear]

Something I was taught in the 90's about answering a phone. Take a breath before you speak. This gives the person the other end a chance to be ready to listen and engage.

[@particle_wave7614]

I switched from PVP games to co-op a while back. Much happier with it. Deep Rock Galactic is great. Killing Floor 2 is great. Borderlands / Wonderlands is great.

[@jojojojo4332]

Left 4 dead is still played a lot because of this reason.

[@vaporzombie487]

​@@jojojojo4332Back 4 Blood :)

[@Verlisify]

I agree with Linus, Multiplayer is less fun than ever. There's WAYYYYY more cheating in every game. Brats have no discipline or respect for others. Its no coincidence that a popular streamer or rank 1 player is getting caught cheating every week.

[@romainsavioz5466]

Cough Cough gta online

[@VivicaGsy]

These 4 hour WAN Shows are really messing with my usual weekly podcast listening schedule 😅

[@shanez1215]

My favorite one is when you'll go to a grocery store and a frozen pizza is approaching 10 dollars. Like I could get a carryout at Papa John's for 11

[@aurum7695]

I find the way Luke and Linus describing DDR kind of funny, especially when they pulled up an ancient video of a not very difficult Pump it Up video. I personally think DDR would be interesting in 2 different styles: one where its how luke and linus described, along the lines of freestyle where you have a routine that is voted on. The other style would just be the versus mode already built in, where both players play the same chart and the score is decided by the in-game score

[@grn1]

It would be really cool if the Olympics (or any large company) got behind StepMania (and didn't try to add DRM bs to it). I just watched a StepMania showcase the other day (the AGDQ 2023 one) and those guys are truly insane with what they can do.

[@Conjo]

That's how it's done in PIU tournaments including the WPF (World PIU Festival, its official worldwide tournament). Though I think there's less freestyle done nowadays, but at least on the latest WPF (which was in 2016...) we still got to see cool choreos and stuff, like the winning team: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hqKmmWCViduVnJo

[@gchristnacht]

I am absolutely loving these super long wan shows!

[@hobojo153alt4]

Even without optimizing for it, this streaming VSR has big potential as it means you can get 4k results from lower resolution requirements.

[@grn1]

I'm wondering how well it will work for animated videos and if I can use it with say, VLC to upscale older videos I've got downloaded on my computer.

[@bluephreakr]

It's hilarious to imagine a video about exposing cheaters being looked down upon by other creators. It's _almost_ like the people talking bad about g0at's video were probably cheaters themselves.

[@phoenux3986]

Nvidia's AI upscaling looks like a big case of stepping on the toes of streaming services that charge more for 4k res like Netflix and youtube premium. Will be interesting to see how that plays out

[@MikkoRantalainen]

I would definitely watch multiple episodes on submerged cooling projects. The idea is very good if you can make it work. As for the possibility of leak, just put the tank in a big plastic container big enough to contain the liquid in case the primary case fails.

[@zacharyharwell351]

The amount of cheating in so many multiplayer games is honestly why I tend to play singleplayer RPGs when I play by myself. If I want to play a multiplayer game, I want the competition and the feeling of victory and accomplishment (and obviously I'm playing with friends). I can't enjoy that feeling when I know that potentially 50-75% of the enemy team may be cheating at any given time, and as such I don't enjoy it. Plain and simple

[@JeffDM]

That "millennial pause" makes sense for recording, so you have something to clip, so you don't accidentally overlap shot setup action with intentend footage. I agree it's a good thing to make sure what you're doing is captured on footage.

[@heftyharry1727]

Fabulous channel guys always hooked. Learned so much.Thankyou !

[@KitGerrits]

About Luke's mini split: most AC engineers will only do a vacuum leak test. I had an AC that only stopped leaking after they found the leak with a *high pressure* test.

[@agaeon]

Every WAN show is getting better,hilarious stuff.❤

[@swiftypines]

as someone who’s been involved with both spaces for many years at this point, sure my game is burning but this has truly been the crossover episode ever.

[@tylerdoestech]

Apparently, the IOC does not know that chess *already has* an Olympiad event where every nation on earth fields a team for over the board competition in both team and individual competition for medal placement. Wow.

[@jojojojo4332]

They know but dont care

[@TheHadMatters]

I mean, it's not like the competitors would complain about more tournaments. It usually works out well for everyone involved, if the community is large enough. The only problem I see is a lack of interest in covering the existing eSports scene.

[@VetBodGaming]

For the flooring you're supposed to keep it inside the house for a few weeks before install so it can adjust to the humidity levels in your house

[@rpfour4]

Back in my day, that pause is waiting for the tape/reel to be rolling at speed.

[@Eijiken]

I shit you not, while WAN show was running, there was literally the largest invitational DDR event being ran! It was insane, and was for a $10000 prize pool I was the stream production lead and primary commentator for the event! We have the entire stream on YT.

[@Voltaic_Fire]

If a developer/studio does nothing to stop cheating then they deserve to have their game's community dissolve.

[@Kenny32441]

Then you better not buy a single multiplayer game ever again as ever single game has cheaters and the devs know and do nothing All the big games have I have directed devs from Ubisoft to cheats software nothing done about it I have direct contact with devs at turn 10 for forza I have a record conversation with a cheater who took my number 1 in the world spot basically says he cheated because he couldn’t beat me and was jealous so cheated his times Nothing done about it Cronos and sticker packs are running rampant on all platforms as well Cronos brag daly about have a 5 million user base

[@mr.whitefox9697]

Luke if you force Linus to build the oil pc you have a 50/50 chance for him to drop it

[@Gantradies]

Or drop it when draining the tank to upgrade the ram/insert new component here..

[@SteveBMX01]

bro I love the vibe and how down to earth you guys are

[@jceggbert5]

@luke: sounds like condensation at the evaporator coil. If so, it's not broken, it's physics. The fix is either a channel/hose to get rid of the water or a dehumidifier that always runs. If the evaporator is parallel with the ceiling, in may need to be propped at an angle so the condensation can run together for the aforementioned channel. Alternatively, let it run with a target temperature for a few days and capture the drippings. Once the drippings stop, they're likely to be rare or nonexistent moving forward, until you shut off the AC again. -guy who likes cold air

[@denveradams4909]

Since Luke's entire house is prone to leaks pretty much everywhere, I would expect these mineral oil tanks to leak as well. It is a forgone conclusion that these tanks will leak.

[@jeremylindemann5117]

This might be the Luke equivalent of the Linus butterfingers effect.

[@flynn3649]

That after credits scene was such a random event. What even

[@jja2000]

Credit where credit is due, Valve has used VAC, VACnet and Overwatch EXTREMELY well in CSGO to the point where there is many ways for them to passively mess with cheaters until they get banned due to more traditional measures.

[@Shimorta]

Unfortunately CS is one of the most cheated in games, and is a common complaint as to why people quit playing it.

[@jja2000]

@@Shimorta I haven't run into any blatant people in a year or 2. I think those people need to reconsider what their trustfactor is and does.

[@hamstersmash]

i looked back at last 6 wan show beginnings, you smooth in all of them

[@Mondo_Monchi]

"Aint nobody got time for me to blink and inhale" Killed me 😂

[@normskilight]

On millennial pause; 2 options that I've seen. Comedy podcasts often have a 'soft start' that feels informal. (Sort of catching them chatting) then an official start when the numbers viewing seem good enough. Second option used for presentations or premieres is a count in timer . Ultimately for the specific case of WAN show, it really doesn't matter. As it is, is fine.

[@grn1]

Also as they covered option 2 doesn't work for them since they can't know for sure when they are going to be live on KZbin.

[@normskilight]

@@grn1 that's why a countdown or a 'coming soon' screen works. You go 'video' live. Wait for all the delays across various platforms. Then after a couple of minutes or so, you go 'action' live.

[@grn1]

@@normskilight For the WAN show specifically they said that since they go live to multiple platforms they have to use an intermediary system that doesn't start in a predictable manner (sometimes it takes 15 seconds sometimes it's instant). They have to wait for it to say they are live by which point they may already have been live for a second or so.

[@normskilight]

@@grn1 I feel I have not explained myself very well my friend. The idea is, they have a separate scene in OBS they show while all the services fire up, and wait for when the intermediary service tells them they are live. Then when they are confident every service is spun up, they transition scenes in OBS to the live feed.

[@grn1]

@@normskilight I see, that would eliminate the millennial pause but there'd still be a pause so kind of pointless.

[@ImTheShrey]

Waiting for the timestamps guy 😅

[@JericoJocson]

"Beautiful community, not toxic at all" then Luke laughed. For some reason, I can feel that it's connected to the work-related stuff being posted left and right in the subreddit XD

[@shadowreaver752]

Man that place was stupid for a few days.

[@alwhiting]

i have an 800D still, drilled the rivets to remove the drive bays and put brandons old giant radiator in the front w/ home depot tubing water cooling!

[@MikkoRantalainen]

2:26:00 I agree 100% that if the software is not supported 5 years from the day the *last* device is sold, it really doesn't matter if you can get spare parts for it. You shouldn't use any "smart" device connected to internet without security patches.

[@Dusii156]

This assortment of games in the Olympics are just going to make esports easier to ridicule for the people that don't get it already

[@quantaca5773]

Yeah, i mean there are already Formula 1 and fifa competitions that are played by actual sports teams and i dont mean esports teams (like for say dota) as those obviously also exist, but i mean like actual football (soccer) teams have their own fifa esport team and such.

[@Dusii156]

@@quantaca5773 Yeah i know, i was speaking more like how esports are percieved by non gamers. Its not taken seriously and this will not help ^^

[@Mickstar305]

Luke's reaction at 3:06:55 as Dan was reading the merch message was priceless