We shut down a Pay-To-Win Minecraft Server (Duping on TreeMC - Episode 2)

[@LordDaxius]

"This dupe relies on a plugin that's designed to stop duping" It became the very thing it swore to destroy

[@StarForceOne]

You were my brother Anakin!

[@jeremyt7817]

StarForceOne you were supposed to destroy the Sith , not join them!

[@safarinuggets9388]

“I used the stones to destroy the stones”

[@sfdsda1847]

StarForceOne didn't expect to see you here lol. A surprise to be sure but a welcome one

[@snackito9724]

I see you're a man if culture as well

[@FitMC]

I have literally never played on TreeMC before, but I'm banned from it thanks to your videos Sal LOL. 10/10

[@ranuigibson7177]

Bruh moment

[@Rusticpoptart]

Ah yes good morning fitmc

[@TanguyBlanchard]

LMAO

[@mmmmmmmmmmmmmm5866]

You are banned from this server reason:having friends

[@vastpizza2760]

Lmao

[@blarfenhaven___1769]

“It unbalances the game” While playing on a pay to win server

[@rrrrre2905]

Its like giving someone a christmas present and then asking them to pay for it

[@MrGay-iw6tm]

Facts

[@blueroses6305]

2.3k likes with 2 replies 😳

[@rickygamingproductions]

Seriously anyone would take the basically free money and not say anything. Why did he even complain. Sure some want to keep their dignity or whatever without resorting to certain stuff like duping but come on. You got a pair of Invisible Guys giving you free stuff. How ungrateful

[@zureai]

@@rickygamingproductions Well there are people playing Minecraft..... to make it worse.. its a pay2win minecraft server. So im guessing they take this game seriously

[@yoursinisterdoge2785]

Should have told Treeo that he needs a donator rank to unlock the knowledge of how to dupe on his server.

[@thelimon4338]

😂

[@isiffrin]

What if you... wanted to place a sign but God said: [More Users] [Redstone]

[@yasminm.8864]

Is this a... Meme?

[@brennanvilcheck9469]

@@yasminm.8864 reference to when Jschlatt played the role of god in a minecraft video where every 5 minutes there was a natural disaster. Highly recommend watching the video.

[@yasminm.8864]

@@brennanvilcheck9469 I already watched it. I really liked it. But what I meant is, that the comment is set in a meme template. Maybe... I am watching to much meme channels...

[@thebirchwoodtree]

Did you guys watch the video...?

[@yasminm.8864]

@@thebirchwoodtree no we ate it

[@stevenverespey316]

“The only rule that should be broken is duping” 2 seconds later: freecams for shits and giggles

[@TheFlypaste]

I doubt there's a "no freecamming" rule :p

[@todabsolute]

@@TheFlypaste freecam ≈ xray

[@momsi6341]

@@todabsolute no

[@todabsolute]

@@momsi6341 dungeons or bases

[@Toutong_]

"Imma just fly a little bit"

[@GEONEgaming]

"We haven't been told to comply yet" is the dumbest excuse. "Sorry, your honor. in my defense, the police never told me to stop killing until i got caught"

[@theotherguy7704]

Haha

[@grapz2245]

Literally the dumbest excuse. Ignorance of the law does not invalidate the law. If you're doing 75 in a 40, "I didn't see the speed sign" doesn't mean "therefore it doesn't apply".

[@vanitas4841]

Timestamp?

[@CrisReed2]

Mythra pfp? A man of culture I see.

[@JJreal-f9v]

Who’s the girl in your pfp?

[@ZarHakkar]

I like how 2b2t is so legendary and feared that people treat the players as an elite army of griefers and hackers that could invade their server at any time. Thank you Sal, for bringing me back with these videos to something akin to the good old days of Team Avolition and demonstrating that, yes still indeed, these Minecraft servers that are full of themselves can be brought down a peg or two.

[@ChesterCheatin]

You clearly watch too much fitmc.

[@ZarHakkar]

@@ChesterCheatin No, not really? I used to be a regular on 2b2t a while before it got super big.

[@ChesterCheatin]

@@ZarHakkar How does being a regular make it so you don't watch fitmc, and you used to be, and fitmc wasn't a thing before 2b2t was big, he's an ass

[@ZarHakkar]

@@ChesterCheatin Being a regular explains my feelings about 2b2t. I don't care that much about FitMC, yet you seemed to think I did, so I provided an alternate explaination.

[@ChesterCheatin]

@@ZarHakkar It's because anyone who thinks the way you do are fans of FitMC, since 2b2t isn't like that and if you were a regular you would know that 2b2t is just a bunch of edgy kids. So clearly you are not

[@fatcat2015]

11:19 in the chat, Yui: “So nice to see a fun hacker though, instead of a break the server type of hacker.” Sometimes foreshadowing is obvious.

[@YEEEEEEA]

ironically the admins broke the server lmao

[@rynny_weather]

And the admin broke his own server

[@psychic-paranoia8020]

When the 2b2t anarchy server hackers have higher respect to Minecraft's EULA than server creators.

[@barackobama6965]

Well technically they don’t break any Mojang rules like this server does

[@lillyie]

the difference is the players themselves are selling their stuff for RL money. TreeMC itself sells the items

[@elliehugg]

Chaotic Good

[@gj3514]

@@barackobama6965 Some do, by sellings shulkers of items. Its quite huge on these anarchy servers.

[@lockman5123]

Selling items for money violates the EULA, whether it's players selling shulkers of items or a server doing it. The difference is that Mojang doesn't go after players for it.

[@GeneralNuisance00]

If you want to do a part 3, do this: 1. Set up a nice, big series of dupe stashes over a few days. 2. Wait a few months. 3. Distribute dupes 4. Try to book ban or chunk ban mods and owners 5. Tell mods that you've got 20 dupe stashes made over the course of 3 - 6 months 6. Server must either accept hyperinflation, or rollback by several months. Either way, they're destroyed.

[@matthewfonzo6388]

General Nuisance holy shit this is an entire battle plan and this is amazing

[@derpsquad3306]

Wait 1 year

[@ayweather4689]

that is evil

[@dylmg1012]

Haha yesss

[@Shyphlosion]

@@derpsquad3306 I agree with this. Fuck these guys xD

[@TheEagleEyeValor]

Bro just hopped on a man’s llama, said “Assuming direct control”, mind-melded with the beast, and moonwalked that llama off to go do crime.

[@megavolt1208]

Sal, next time play the waiting game. Log on to a non-EULA compliant server, stash duped items everywhere and disconnect. After a week/month, log back in and distribute shulker boxes everywhere. They can't rollback a month's worth of progress so they'll just have to live with the fact that there are stashes of duped items ready to be distributed at any time.

[@leah8238]

they could just rollback one day to before they were duped, and then just try to find where the dupe stash was (many servers have blockloggers)

[@mikebeno363]

@@leah8238 >simply read through an entire month's worth of system logs to find when extremely specific blocks were placed in a block-placing game lol good luck

[@widdwecat6112]

genius

[@prodbymao]

It's a lot of work for a video but that shit would be so epic

[@wertyuser798]

@@leah8238 this server doesnt even have any of that

[@mueezadam8438]

Heartwarming: Grassroots group of philanthropists donate thousands to a small town

[@skeleporter3621]

this is truly the best comment by far

[@cimex7492]

And topple a corrupt government along the way.

[@mcmuinorac5848]

trillions*

[@sansundertale2424]

@@mcmuinorac5848 I was thinking that

[@karammohamed5569]

More like trillions

[@lememz]

Sal: Do not break any rules here, the only rule that shoud be broken is dupping *Proceeds to fly*

[@eliasenns4928]

Haha baritone go brrrr

[@Sadblood]

It's freecam

[@irondolphin1559]

It wasn't used maliciously tho

[@exicutioner161]

Elias Enns it wasn’t baritone tho it was his mind

[@psiseven]

Other players were flying. Maybe this server has plugins that allow you to fly? I know another server does it

[@grimreefer9324]

The real chad move would be to tell them there's a shit ton MORE stashes.

[@baconx330]

The most screwed up thing about the rollback and the salty admins is anybody who spent money on items and things in the 2 days that got rolled back probably never got their money back.

[@fofo-ms6ck]

that's one of the most fucked up thing i heard in a week

[@natplayz1989]

That against the law!

[@kyliemcwynne]

@@natplayz1989 Good luck convincing a court that.

[@diablotry5154]

@@kyliemcwynne You could easily do so. As long as you have proof of purchase and proof of rollback

[@LiteDisc]

@@kyliemcwynne You wouldn't have to take it to court, just call the bank and ask for a chargeback.

[@SalC1]

I forgot to add this at the end of the video: After we left the server, the owner initiated a 2 day rollback of EVERYTHING. Lets just say that some people were not pleased.

[@Krays_]

so there is a new vid incoming?

[@oscarsmalls3611]

Holy shit

[@fabiososo]

Nice

[@Merculos]

Thank you for your service Sal

[@dygron]

ok

[@handoverthestromboli6715]

"guys don't break any rules, only the dupe rule" *proceeds to steal someone's llama with a hack*

[@ddevin]

Grand Theft Llama

[@hexusdev8401]

@@ddevin LMAO

[@gregorygarrison572]

@@hexusdev8401 llamao

[@hexusdev8401]

@@gregorygarrison572 l lmaolollmao

[@martinsleis3852]

And fly away with it.

[@quintendhaenens6207]

12:38 Literally the opposite of "can't have shit in Detroit"

[@-cascade.]

can have shit in Detroit

[@user-xj5gs3zt6s]

@@-cascade. can have shit in Augusta

[@xnyancatcats7628]

Server Owner: *Installs Dupe Plugin to prevent Sal from duping* Sal: *This dupe is made from a plugin that is meant to stop duping*

[@mihaialex5727]

Sal:Glitching a dupe prevent plugin

[@TheDailyBugleJ3]

_”You may have outsmarted me, But I outsmarted your outsmarting!”_ Edit: *Please someone make this 69 likes so that I can put a ☑️ near one of my daily YT tasks.*

[@nagow_360]

Yep that's literally what he said

[@shwendyvr7908]

well done u can use your ears

[@starhalv2427]

I used antidupe to destroy antidupe.

[@mathewsmith7866]

I got banned on this server by WillyT0160 just for saying "Is anybody selling a llama?"

[@diongames9165]

Lol

[@schoolbus6028]

Lol i was there any mention of this dude will get you banned especially if you're trying to dupe

[@Andrew-tj6sc]

this is true. Just logged on and said is anyone selling llamas? and got instantly ip-banned

[@rockerguy9683]

I said "WTB selfie with SalC1, paying with my mom's credit card dollas" and got banned like 2-3 seconds after by Envyful 😂 I guess the name fits him, prolly envious of all dem dollas on the card hahahahahaha

[@ryanwilson2706]

Saw that happen, most people on the server agreed that was poor judgement by Willy.

[@Xaaaach]

I love how their response to breaking the EULA was “We weren’t told to comply yet”

[@merren2306]

They didnt break the EULA anyway so eh

[@Decrupt]

@@merren2306 They did but a'ight.

[@Matt_History]

@@merren2306 it's against Minecraft's Eula to sell any form of item to players as the owner of a Minecraft server

[@Bronek0990]

Let's mass report the server

[@merren2306]

@@Matt_History No, it's not. It's against the EULA to sell stuff mojang made, such as vanilla items, yes, but not against the EULA to give ranks that give easier access to game content, such as kits.

[@markiemooart]

Hi I'm kind of late to this video, but as someone who's put more than 1000 hours into this server I have something to add to this: I joined the server in early 2019 when it was first released. The only gamemode that was playable was Towny, and there was basically barely anything on their Store that was expensive (I think there was maybe 3 ranks available). The player base was also super small, and the staff/owner were regularly online and HEAVILY monitored cheating/hacking, like annoyingly too often. I'd also like to note here that in 2019, the owner Treeo was 13 years old (Which is kinda impressive) and a lot of his monitoring and "fixing" of the servers issues were really delayed and downright wrong. I stopped playing mid 2019 because of this, and a lot of other OG players also did for the same reason. It was also super easy to exploit the in-game shop and earn money super easy. This doesn't even include the other website shop donations that the player can buy to make it easier to earn money. All and all the owner and staff never did an impressive job in making their players happy, but throughout all of that their player base grew. Early 2020 I decided to join back because I heard that they were adding in Prison (and im a sucker for prison servers lol) and it totally surprised me how big the server had gotten and how many things they added to their online shop. They also made it so that you couldn't keep the same donor rank for each gamemode (Towny, Prison, Pixelmon) and you had to buy each one individually. Which, again, is literally a shit way of making people pay more but I guess it makes the owner more money so... I thought since the server had grown so big that their staff must be doing things correctly right? Well for starters, in just a few weeks of their Prison being open to play the economy had gone to shit. Treeo's (and the developers') solution to THAT problem was to inflate everything, which made the gamemode even worse than it was before. Of course I didn't just sit around and complain about it, I tried telling Treeo what the problems were and how to fix it (Because we've known each other for a while and he knows me personally) I don't exactly remember the response, but I know that nothing about it was fixed, so I ended up just leaving all together. It's kind of impressive that a 15 year old could grow a server this large and make a living off of it, but his way of dictating and "fixing" server issues such as this P2W thing just doesn't make sense. I'm actually kinda glad SalC1 did these videos cause TreeMC really deserved this type of harsh punishment on their reputation. They've always been a mediocre to shit server to play on.

[@blackcat14077]

Thanks for the insight!

[@UltimateSpinDash]

"This server is a beta." "This server also sells VIP status for 85$." How has EA or some other publisher not hired these people yet?

[@captainjackpugh6050]

They are EA

[@yeeebio1610]

Lmao

[@gaxzy-g9310]

lmao

[@thesolesentinel]

UltimateSpinDash facts

[@thesolesentinel]

Captain Jack Pugh EA apprentices

[@matthewmorgan582]

Carrot City Rules: Rule 3: if someone destroys or damages your house leave it damaged. Rule 7: Don't keep a house half damaged/destroyed.

[@mystcat3]

Best rules i ever seen

[@GregorianMG]

*Confused*

[@thegreatest3face774]

Nyan Llamas logic 101

[@TheShingleBobber]

Confused Screaming.

[@mistermoee]

*the fuck* (in a SalC1 voice)

[@yaboy202]

"we must stop hyperinflation no matter what the *cost*" very poor choice of words...

[@genjuu4042]

thanos minecraft thanos minecraft

[@alyasgrey9370]

Mitch McConnellcraft

[@amemeaddict]

The cost was about 20 million dollars

[@niki5354]

Very *poor* indeed.

[@TheNextshadow]

"Break no rules except duping" As Caesar said, ""If you must break the law, only do it to seize power"

[@hungryburger1170]

and that's the only thing politicians learned from history

[@Abyss_Watcher]

"It unbalances the game" The irony of this being said on a pay to win server.

[@swishasweak]

honestly Mojang can shut the server down

[@tilengasparic6765]

@@swishasweak some guy from the 1st part said they can't because only the hub (main server IP) is in mojang's durestiction. all the other sub-servers are technicly non-existant for mojang. That meaning they can't close the server if the HUB part of one is following EULA

[@sojourner.]

@@tilengasparic6765 *jurisdiction Unfortunately for TreeMC that isn't true, all servers are under Mojang's jurisdiction regardless of IP status, as that is not specified within the EULA.

[@jettiz3703]

tilen gasparic Everything in minecraft and every part of the server falls under EULA and it says you cant sell parts or the game such as items, which are part of mojang’s property, for moneh.

[@eleanor-forte]

"The only rule that should be broken here is duping" \*Proceeds to fly*

[@thecountercounter9127]

"Its not illegal if you dont get caught"

[@determinedgreet9601]

They weren’t told to comply so it’s good

[@wojtekpolska1013]

SalC1 please read: when you make dupe stashes on evil servers: - make the stashes on the server for few days - just dupe items in different locations, make at least few big stash-bases and maybe few smaller ones (best if multiple alts involved) - write down the locations of them - wait some time, at least a month (you can forget about the server and go back after time when they can no longer roll-back the server) now: 1) if some of the shashes were found, thats STILL GOOD because these items were released into economy in even more legit-looking way than when you do it 2) you take items from stashes that werent looted and distribute them [MAKE SURE MODS DONT FIND STASHES] 3) mods roll-back the server 1-2 days (possibly fix dupe) 4) since these items are back in the stash, you re-distribute them 5) mods take server down for longer, thinking there is other dupe or something, players leave p2p server because they see mods rolling back server and removing what they build, and that economy is broken *also important* make fake-duping machines, if some of you get caught and asked, you tell them about old dupe that dont work anymore (like if u donkey-dupe you say its "modified chunk-dupe" and have the classic chunk-dupe but altered in some weird way to seem like it bypass the previous fix) - so basically try to put as much stress and work on these server admins milking kids from money PS. so apparently Im top comment on this video now (besides FitMc who is a youtuber with almost 1.5MLN subscribers) thats cool... I guess? PPS. so i forgot that editing the comment removes heart. I got hearted by SalC1 before i edited

[@CinnabarCereal]

Gonna wait for this to blow up

[@SnipingIsAGoodJobMate]

I would call this Delightfully Devilish, but you can't really be Devilish when you are doing the right thing

[@SotaPulu45]

He really just wrote a whole essay about duping on a minecraft server. What a legend.

[@SanicStudios]

this..... this is good...

[@lazymelly4584]

Whats youre iq man?

[@scrowfunk8109]

Randomly receiving dupes from an invisible person must feel like finding cartel drug money

[@ninjawiz4475]

Salc1: “Guys don’t break any rules here besides duping” 1 second later: *proceeds to bhop* 3 seconds later: *blatantly flyhacks*

[@m.a.g8768]

LMAO

[@bit_ronic]

admin he doing it sideways

[@keymash]

Just here to hold your hand when you die

[@shudini985]

@@bit_ronic phoon

[@AttacMage]

I think the flying might be something built into the towns, but probably only the one you're in.

[@zachm4389]

I love how he just casually shuts down a server and then has the owner beggings for help from them

[@bldhf]

My favorite rule: "Do not make square houses"

[@xyzzy-dv6te]

*makes 11x10 house*

[@pokemonfanmario7694]

@@xyzzy-dv6te **Makes a cube but adds like 1 block at the bottom jutting out to the side so its technically irregular**

[@TheNinja94a]

I love it when I'm playing a server on MINECRAFT with my own plot of land and I'm not allowed to build how I want Thanks TreeMC

[@kazeykaze1510]

Thats one of the town rules >.> not the servers

[@kazeykaze1510]

@@TheNinja94a it depends what town. Its not the servers fault

[@aubade_1]

“Most of our donators aren’t kids” Yeah, it’s their parents’ money after all LOL

[@daandanx]

"Anybody need llamas or donkeys?" I asked in chat. Not a second later: "You are permanently banned."

[@ryandebolt6326]

just asked from llamas or donkeys for a farm, they flagged those words to trigger an instant ban now lmfao

[@ghostboy945yoboi9]

I asked for a shunker and got banned

[@AAAAAAA-nh7jv]

"Dont fix griefed houses" "Dont leave houses half destroyed" Guess i'll die

[@satyman08]

Haha

[@wyro.]

they want you to finish the job

[@Thymed]

I guess build a new house because you accidentally left clicked

[@spammy7851]

@@wyro. but griefing is also against the rules??????

[@uiopuiop3472]

im sapiosexual demigender

[@LZ-zx7px]

You know your plugin is bad when a dupe is based on your anti-dupe plugin.

[@thesunster0095]

Yeah

[@chevyyy3708]

@Kanashimi i like your words magic man

[@monke1001]

@Kanashimi yes yes

[@humanbeing5529]

I feel happy that no more guys will make their parents broke

[@zencloneee]

Yea bro you're right!!

[@Ayeloo]

I love how when Sal sees a rule board he's immediately disgusted

[@lolno5632]

I love how ibxtoycat said that putting up huge rule boards makes one a bad person.

[@DaxMarko]

Being overly authoritarian is how you give bad impressions indeed

[@bsharpmajorscale]

I dunno, I've played on a non-P2W server, and some of the towns had reasonable rules. Not 18 though.

[@nostalgicdays2539]

@@lolno5632 oops Willbur Soot oops

[@endercraft2735]

.

[@yomust0of]

what "aphe" said, "you should create dupe stashes, wait like a week or a month, and then distribute everything so it gets rolled back a massive amount"

[@loganhendon688]

No go for a year, that way they can’t do anything about it.

[@tyrannus00]

Oh shit

[@_Bumby_]

Just have an alt get on every month and expand the dupe stashes, until eventually the entire server is just dupes

[@TimmyChalk]

This would destrou a server. They should do that next time to a server like this one

[@gunk9629]

So true

[@XarmenKarshov]

I love that they deduced you were hacking because you used a potion of invisibility, a feature that's in the base game of MineCraft. These people have paid to win so much they forgot an entire portion of the game.

[@nuclearsynapse5319]

to be fair most servers make invis potions unusable or bannable offenses

[@XarmenKarshov]

@@nuclearsynapse5319 Well yeah, but iirc (don't have time to watch the video rn) they didn't glitch/hack the invis pots. So if this staff member was actually competent, this wouldn't be a reason to ban someone without solid proof of them using a script to be invisible rather than using an in-game feature.

[@nuclearsynapse5319]

@@XarmenKarshov well sure, but some servers explicitly state in their rules that invis pots are illegal, and therefore if you are caught using them you couls be banned

[@XarmenKarshov]

​@@nuclearsynapse5319 Yes, but it takes 2 minutes at most to blacklist items. Either the server owner is completely incompetent, along with every other staff (this doesn't include making a P2W in the first place mind you) or they never banned the item and the person who banned here is just abusing their power. The latter is more likely of the two situations than everyone not realizing they can blacklist items from being spawned/created.

[@blackironwalterkus3851]

prettty sure they also used speed and fly but aight

[@vunga8195]

"Only rule that should be broken is duping" "Wait you can ride those llamas? "No you cant im using a hacked client"

[@cashnordam]

Treeo couldn’t monetise his server according to the eula, making him tonight’s biggest loser

[@nevererothezero7893]

And yet somehow cash is flowing in and out

[@KenhelExcallius]

hypixel does it by giving ranked ppl like, no chat restriction which doesn't effect the gameplay, when a new update on skyblock come out the non ranked are unable to play for a day which also isn't an advantage, its like a donation

[@mahiro5867]

Nice reference

[@somebodyhere3160]

10 minutes ago this had 8 likes now It has 337 lol

[@mangofried]

Hehehe the channel name is sal

[@ruzco4873]

"We need Market Stability" -12yo discovers capitalism

[@chrislutte3794]

Spot on

[@mr.cauliflower3536]

Funny how paid kits wreck the economy way more.

[@dalf_souls2199]

o no what about the owner profit, we have to enforce market scarcity u guys

[@gabrielkellar1935]

All the other 12yo- be like: we need communism

[@jackdaww]

@@gabrielkellar1935 that kid still talks about stuff like that lmao

[@CrazySocks73]

This NEEDS to become a series

[@lukarikid9001]

Dr0p Dead im getting serious team avo vibes... lovely

[@eruptorr9103]

lukarikid9001 I was just about to say this, team avo reincarnated. Loved the shit out of their series

[@danang5]

it kinda of already is,its like the 4th server they dupe on to inflate right?

[@FateStorm]

@@danang5 no it's still the third since this was a two-parter + it's been over a year since the last 2 duping videos, the op probably meant that they need to make more of these kind of videos, with I wholeheartedly agree with.

[@danang5]

@@FateStorm thats why i said kind of a series,but i do agree that salt should do it more often,but probably cant do it too often since it probably make other p2w server more wary

[@jakobglanc7514]

this group of friends is the minecraft equivalent of 42 year old dads going bowling with their other friend dads that they met at their sons minor league baseball game on a Saturdayy

[@soulhoney1908]

He is 14

[@Yoyiiii]

​@@soulhoney1908 his first video is 15 years ago

[@jay-tbl]

imagine making out with your gf and some random guy breaks into your house, drops a trillion dollars cash, then leaves

[@Rocco-tb9ih]

But now imagine that you're a fucked up 10 year old digitally kissing your Minecraft girlfriend. The money doesn't seem too unrealistic now. And if you're older than 10 years old and you do this shit, there's this thing called "Therapy". Maybe you should try it out sometime.

[@SuperJumper]

Hmmmmm. Mr beast in 2050: "giving away 1 T $ to random people in their houses.

[@CowyC]

Hate it when that happens

[@kaleidoscopekaleidoscope9064]

@Salivar Ravilas LMAO

[@st4ndg4mes87]

@Salivar Ravilas it's not robbery it's surprise un-giveaway

[@shurbrrt]

The true crime here was the theft of that innocent llama

[@Booklat1]

hopefully its owner got it back on the rollback lel

[@dryjoints454]

Booklat1 *server gets rolled back a few days*

[@isiltalks389]

You mean the only crime

[@psyduck-ov3870]

True

[@Booklat1]

@@dryjoints454 yes, thats why i think the owner mightve gotten the llama back ( if yhey had it beforehand)

[@januzairamli4426]

Pay to win servers be like: "Balanced economy!" "Non-pay to win!"

[@Herbayse]

Buy the xxxDonatorxxx rank for $20 and get fully enchanted diamond armor and weapons!!!

[@user-bo1ej5im9t]

Tf2 in a nutshell

[@drikjugen2281]

jeff wholsome Umm you can get all the weapons for free, only cosmetic items need to be bot, and they grand no upper edge...

[@Shlungoidwungus]

Sal running in like a North Korean operative trying to inflate the economy to destroy a server is a remarkably entertaining thing.

[@lion123]

I propose a community challenge: "Getting banned on TreeMC speedrun". Your goal is to get banned as fast as you can after logging in for the first time. (Mentioning SalC1 in chat may help, I got permanently banned without any reason 5-10 seconds after saying "SalC1 gang anyone?")

[@yellowhazeproductions]

Did that last week. Asked "Where's the dupe?"

[@jacksonwang8130]

Geez

[@felix6]

It's like the yandere simulator discord speedrun

[@lion123]

@@felix6 On that note, TreeMC discord is currently unavailable for new people to join. The link on the website is an expired invite. I wanted to do a speedrun of that too :(

[@ohyeahyeah5246]

I top that!

[@elderyaag3534]

This looks like a documentary about some drug dealers in their basement.

[@JO-ct7rp]

Yes, This is underrated

[@Sam-bp2st]

It really does

[@Sapocalipsis11]

Feels like a weird money laundry scheme they even had a decoy house

[@josephpaul0484]

and then just giving it all away to ruined street value of it.

[@gavind231]

Holy shit it does

[@entropic-decay]

honestly, the way I would go about this is to make a duping base (as you did), but distribute the items over a long period (over a month) via the server's own market in small amounts for cheap essentially, this would cause the demanded price for valuable items to become so low that they're practically free, making the donation system worthless to most players, and because it was over so long a period any rollback of it would cause most if not all players to leave the server. they wouldn't have anything to do to combat the ruination of their server. it would be like 1930s germany, where the money was so worthless that if you saw a wheelbarrow full of money it would be more worthwhile to dump out the wheelbarrow's contents and take it alone

[@Alan-mv5ki]

Don't talk too loud, it's not ended yet. I just hope they don't see this video and patch the shit out of the dupe.

[@evil7260]

Alan I think they did I joined the server and only said I like salc1 videos and got banned the server owner and mods are losers

[@jerm70]

It's a dupe caused by a patch to stop dupes. They are screwed.

[@jerm70]

@@suedetree970 It would require an actual dedicated team. I think there is probably people who would join in but it is a long shot for sure.

[@slaughterround643]

yay! sal maybe you can institute a minecraft version of the Night of Long Knives or Night of Broken Glass in minecraft too! maybe set up a few work camps!

[@Savariable]

1:32 LMFAO RULE 15

[@midnightflare9879]

When 2b2t players go to another server: "Guys, don't brake any rules, the only rule that should be broken is dupeing."

[@Xanditbb]

"Are you hacking?" "No, I'm FreeCaming"

[@renatus20058]

Can you tell me how 2b2t players are like? I'm sorry, I know everybody (Well, most at least) knows about 2b2t players but I don't really know their characteristics. I'm just a Hypixel player, sometimes I play on InvadedLands but rarely. I know 2b2t is a former oldest anarchy server though.

[@midnightflare9879]

@@renatus20058 you said it wrong. 2b2b is *The oldest anarchy server in Minacraft*

[@Yoruharu]

@Obama don’t care while its true he's a good source when it comes to history of 2b2t, he also makes it sounds so much more epic than it actually is.

[@Sword2D]

@@Yoruharu I vouch. The guy makes a minecraft account named "GeorgeBush420" into a name of a supervillain just by using his vocal skills

[@runforitman]

"Most of our donators arent kids" Yes because you only see the name and birthdate for the card.

[@reetsa4203]

underrated comment

[@gaspacho961]

lol so right

[@samikrema8057]

Got instantly banned for saying: "isnt this the server that sal obliterated?"

[@pokemonfanmario7694]

I got banned for saying "imagine paying for items"

[@mksterfire7396]

Its the yandere dev of minecraft servers

[@xyzzy-dv6te]

@Craigishere 1 Overexaggerated bans on Discord for example

[@mksterfire7396]

@Craigishere 1 he basically bans anyone who makes fun of him in the slightest, cant take criticism, streams instead of fixing bugs in his game, is incredibly toxic to his OWN community, fixes infantasmaly small bugs instead of working on bigger aspects, and stops working with companies if they try to improve on his shitty unity code. then he turns around and plays victim to his fans...

[@theinstrument122]

@Craigishere 1 a corrupt snowflake who lacks any idea on how to program, and brain washes kids to pay him on patreon, who also steals assist and treats people who are better then him in programming or animation like shit, he is the worst of the humanity race, people say rapists or Pedos are the scum of the earth, I beg to differ

[@sevenlewdz]

As of January 2020, i checked their website and their prices are higher than when Sal made the video

[@envyful3817]

As of 2022 the server is officially dead:)

[@redssign]

Got banned for saying "youtube video" they are not taking shit huh.

[@chase8d]

Yep, I also got banned just for mentioning the dupe. Can't even appeal on the forums either, I registered and it's said "Your account is currently awaiting approval by an administrator. You will receive an email when a decision has been taken." for the past week

[@thatoneguy1839]

Thats why i hate pay to win servers

[@captainjackpugh6050]

Well I don’t care about this server then

[@Dolphin002]

Carrot town's rules: "Do not fix griefs" "You cannot leave your house half built/destroyed" So if someone griefs half of your house, you'll get banned no matter what

[@enzoty4834]

200 iq

[@DinoguinJess]

You need to leave something for the mods to check the history of who did it.

[@jacksonwang8130]

Jessica Dinoguin but then fix it afterwards

[@isaacribeiro6823]

i played the server you dont fix griefs because the mods are the one who are supposed to fix it

[@frostburnspirit9065]

Just remove the rest of the house by yourself problem solved

[@xSouppp]

“most of my donators aren’t kids” *a 10 year old couple kissing in the background*

[@rov4950]

Mwah

[@cako666]

In all fairness, the kids aren't donating their money. They are donating mommy's credit

[@jekgrenn8059]

😘

[@gaspacho961]

wtf were they really supposed to be kissing? that shit is messed up

[@DinoguinJess]

Kazey in the video is actually 18 and paid his own rank so>.>

[@aonair7211]

Thank you SalC1 for entertaining me during dinner, much appreciated.

[@undercoverfbi3155]

Guy of the server: “so nice to see a fun hacker instead of a ‘break the server’ hacker” Sal:Oh you sweet summer child

[@smolchungus9213]

What's a fucking summer child 😂

[@JKBRO-js5yo]

@@smolchungus9213 Game of thrones reference.

[@EndertheDragon0922]

Smol Chungus “Someone who is naive, or who has never experienced hardship.” That’s the definition I got for it

[@smolchungus9213]

@@EndertheDragon0922 makes sense

[@smolchungus9213]

I've just never actually heard anyone I know use that term but it kinda made sense in my head when I heard it

[@86_percent28]

I don’t know why, but duping looks like the Minecraft equivalent of an illegal drug operation.

[@99999bomb]

86_percent is pretty common

[@dude2345672]

Probably because both heavily involve riding llamas

[@FradFish]

drug rings are irl money glitches

[@slimeykadenza9293]

more like money laundering

[@NoTraceOfSense]

But they’re less like Tony Montana and more like Robin Hood and his merry men.

[@shwT]

if you dont like P2W servers go try find a dupe on cosmicpvp that server is the most P2W server ive ever been on, some of the owners have made $1mil+ from it :----:

[@cameronphillips942]

Reid Obrien almost impossible to find a dupe on there

[@alucard3689]

ToeGang Kong facts :D

[@elmoeboi9544]

Preston and them make bank from kids

[@TheRealBunnyMan]

And how do I make a P2W server?

[@miberss]

@@elmoeboi9544 preston going to jail LMAOOO

[@purplehaze2358]

Having a rule against players fixing griefed houses while also having a rule against leaving houses half=destroyed is kind of ridiculous to me.

[@SuperDominicS]

"Do not fix griefs" "Do not leave houses half destroyed" "Do not grief" *Do not house*

[@LanceGardenia]

@@SuperDominicS to be entirely fair, it's probably more of a checklist, since it's a player-run town within the server. something like: 1. do not grief. 2. if someone griefs you, leave it for a while so higher-ups in the town can figure out who did it and with what tools 3. once griefer is located and roundly shunned (and probably reported to server mods), fix your house rather than leaving it destroyed forever as it will otherwise look out of place but the way they've phrased it as "no griefing", "no fixing griefs", and "no leaving griefed houses unfixed" is really awkward and makes the whole thing kind of dumb lol (not that it was even close to the dumbest thing going on in that server tho lol)

[@SuperDominicS]

@@LanceGardenia yeah probably, but it's funny way to do it regardless

[@dockickman7104]

Bro... "I litterally just made a mod that tells me if a donkey spawns near me" The hands down best out of context thing I've heard in a while lmao

[@deamooz9810]

Big brain move

[@MrPlito95]

"Modern problems require modern solutions"

[@xyzzy-dv6te]

Griefing in 2011: burning and blowing up shit Griefing in 2020: *Dupe go brrr*

[@jAyDeN30111]

RIP Team Avo

[@nassossfigas]

"We weren't told to comply yet" Bruh... I hope he knows Mojang doesn't pet you on your shoulder and goes like "okay buddy fix it". They outright blacklist you without warning

[@nervehammer1]

"it's okay, you can go when you feel like it" honestly they're brain dead.

[@joyce_rx]

Yeah lmao there is no complying, only banning and blacklisting

[@KPoWasTaken]

Well invadedlands should be blacklisted cause it has pay to win

[@soph483]

@@KPoWasTaken Well not really, once I didn't pay ANYTHING and had one of the top balances of money on the Survival server, but that might just be survival. KitPVP and Skyblock may be different, I've never really played those.

[@SaadDan]

@@KPoWasTaken yeah and?

[@zacharyrusch312]

“Idiot” “I’m so forking stupid” “Retard” What a supportive friend group lmao

[@shroomer449]

every friend group really lmao

[@alerlyking6803]

This is such a throwback to the days of Team Avolition.

[@nokokusovai4415]

I was thinking the same thing. Doesnt quite have the charm of Team aVo though. I miss the storm and krysks sense of humor.

[@keemo6589]

If you know, you know. This is the way.

[@Sinaduel]

Indeed.

[@whereismysonicantfindhim1816]

THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I WAS THINKING. I remember being in 8th grade watching team avo vids. Gd this is a throwback.

[@vladhry7039]

@ReadyMadeConor ventrilo but yeah

[@dudebehinddude2967]

Honestly just... Pay to win is against minecrafts Eula but duping isn't Duping go brrrr

[@chaotikkiller1617]

Duping is because he's using a PAID FOR hacked client, which breaks the EULA of distributed hacked versions of the game, and getting money from distribution of any modified game files.

[@miberss]

@@chaotikkiller1617 then mods would be killed. / badlion / paid for texture packs so its flawed

[@Ragnaracc]

The server its self breaks the eula cause of real world money to use in game items

[@hahahahajade]

@@chaotikkiller1617 you can do anything with Minecraft as long as you dont resell its code, which hacked client dont do

[@matth23e2]

"hacked versions or Modded Versions of the Game client or server software are not okay to distribute" is against the EULA. so you can argue it might be unethical, but arguing that it's not okay because it's "against the EULA" is hypocritical if support in anyway, whether by downloading it (like sal), sharing it (like sal), etc.

[@Gilbert__1]

So basically my friends and I played this server when it had like an avg of 10 ppl daily. We were like the heart of the server. We helped him with plugins etc. Eventually we left bc the server was boring asf. It sucks to see that the server turned out like this.

[@letcreate123]

Was it as bad P2W-wise as now?

[@reusconscientia6995]

@@letcreate123 probably not, the bigger the server the gets the worse it becomes in terms on economy and irl money being involved

[@joaquincasascortes624]

@@letcreate123 I dont think so, as we are talking about a 10 person server

[@kazeykaze1510]

The server owner wasn't treeo then.

[@Gilbert__1]

Kazey Kaze Ik it was skull trumpet, idk why isn’t owner tho anymore

[@toxic_revenant3]

The owner trying to intimidate them at the end is comedy gold.

[@eggsalad4945]

“You can’t just inflate the economy” “Hehe dupe glitch go brrrrrrr”

[@Fragens]

Hehe dupe glitch go a = a a

[@tincanmaniac1931]

Hyper inflation go brrrrrrrrr

[@Finnfx]

dupe glitch go cha ching

[@nugget9k]

This is a clever way to teach kids about why Socialism destroys economies

[@Bluefog12]

Hmm inflating the economy? Sounds like something the Spiffing Brit would do.

[@elephanttower8347]

I joined tree mc when there was only about 10 players on the server, I joined the server skybase and lived next to the owner, one day they literally tore down my house and trashed my items because a donor wanted my spot, literally got my shit trashed cuz i didnt pay for the shitty fuckin server. making me tonights biggest loser

[@kellynolen498]

Ripperoni do we need a 3rd crusaude i know they wont roll it back that far but ita worth it to mess with the owner

[@brian6046]

this comment blessed me for some odd reason. thank u

[@zach2beat]

Kelly Nolen No, set up stashes like 2 weeks in advance. And i don’t mean like 5 stashes i mean like 20-30 stashes. Then give it like 2 weeks then do the crusade. But only use like 1-3 stashes. Give it a couple days and do it again. Then at the same time though slowly drop stuff to random people. Don’t do it a lot though, just enough to slowly kill the in game economy over time. make them have to do a rollback every couple days but during those days between you just make random people absurdly rich.

[@lolno5632]

What if 2b2t players and 4channers launched a crusade against pay-to-win servers?

[@random_midis]

@@lolno5632 eh there's enough bored people stuck at home all across the world atm might as well do it

[@testname4464]

"Most of our donators aren't kids." So kids are still being scammed

[@RoyalExc]

"most of" *Hold on sorry what do you mean by 'most'?*

[@dalf_souls2199]

And they immediately concede to "we have no way of knowing so it's fine actually"

[@liber2350]

Centrist dude? Not knowing your taking advantage of kids doesn’t make it any better...

[@thelemonheads4853]

I'm still curious as to how it qualifies as taking advantage of children. Kids go "hey mom I wanna buy this" and then it's up to parents to be like " no, it's crap" or " yes, here's money for some dumb game" maybe I'm missing something.

[@liber2350]

The LemonHeads taking advantage of children means making something appealing to kids so that they spend money, not realizing what they have done. It’s like candy flavored vape. It appeals to people who don’t know better. And it’s the worst when done to children since they are uneducated and do not understand the concept of money, and some parents will do anything to shut a child up, even give a credit card, expecting a 10 dollar max purchase, but in reality losing much more. People fish for money using kids, and it’s not fair.

[@humanperson8363]

This is like the end of fallout when you get to have a chat about the philosophy and motives of the bad guy

[@zzigzag286]

“most of our donors aren’t kids” yeah they’re kids using mommy’s credit card

[@fourskinman2463]

“Not kids” to them must mean over 5

[@Penguin_Spy]

"most", which still means some, and technically could be 49%

[@AlbertoTuber]

feel a little bad for the players, even if it's against the eula they still paid but whatever. Moreover mojang doesnt really care about people breaking the eula, but it's still fun to watch

[@smacpats6379]

You aren't even legally allowed to collect data on children under the age of 13. KZbin got fined $170 million for doing that like last year.

[@AlbertoTuber]

@@smacpats6379 They are not "collecting data". If that would be so what about fortnite then?

[@therudestofclouds2007]

17:24 "we weren't told to comply yet" *YET?* so their waiting for the server to get shut down then presumably make a new one? like a traveling scam artist?

[@anthonyabid7047]

Mojang first inspects the server to see if it is against the EULA, then if it is they will send a 30 day notice to the server's email. However, Mojang has been weak in terms of enforcing the EULA specifically because there are too many servers and ways to bypass the blacklist; in addition to the backlash they have received and will receive if they follow through with their EULA.

[@ashlynnmalone6109]

@@anthonyabid7047 that's fucked, that's like a government not being able to enforce anti-slavery laws because people want to keep exploiting people for money. might be a bit extreme but I think it's suitable.

[@IrulewithLucas]

Imagine killing someone and thinking its ok because you haven't been charged yet Doesn't mean you didn't break the law

[@wtfvxpe]

@@anthonyabid7047 how to report? Archon Pvplabs Vanitymc All pay to win vanity mc has made 5k in 4 days

[@Fiufsciak]

What the fuck, are you seriously comparing p2w servers to murder or slavery? Lol. People have a choice and it should be left to them. If they want to sponsor shitty servers with nothing of value to offer - their loss. I agree with these people. Mojang shouldn't butt in, especially when they cannot do it effectively.

[@Mustard1n]

I would love to see round 3 of this. It's so High Quality I literally love to watch this.

[@Datmeega]

I cannot believe in 5 or so hours of this video being up it has done so well just look at the view count gotdamn

[@luigigaminglp]

I mean if the Server owner decided to fuck it up so badly...

[@valentinwarnke1832]

I kinda want them to make all the dupe stashes and then wait a couple days to actually crash the economy so a rollback wouldnt delete them

[@LucarioredLR]

No editing. No memes. Just some grown men crashing a virtual world's economy.

[@MacAndSwiss]

If you're interested in this kind of stuff, Team Avolition and iCanHasGrief did some pretty hefty work to servers a long time ago, albeit with a more anti-Semitic flavor.

[@AjarTadpole7202]

I like how the only reason they cant find you isn't because of some X Factor super elite hacks or anything its because of a vanilla feature that hides your nametag

[@grimreefer9324]

Dang, a secret duping area underneath a dummy house? That's like the TreeMC equivalent of a crack den in a basement

[@ricedbroccoli]

Naw it's like Jesse having his Meth Lab in his basement lmao

[@justwastingtimeonyt9952]

@@ricedbroccoli Jesse we need to dupe

[@eduardodavidsuarezluna4337]

@@justwastingtimeonyt9952 Jesse. We must dupe shulker boxes in TreeMC Jesse.

[@alekosb.8704]

You basically increased the inflation rate on this server like 10000% *and that's wonderful*

[@zachmdful]

The baltop is so bad that I got banned by the owner for saying ./baltop LOLOLOL

[@RichRacc]

Zachmdful neat

[@yawn2274]

This man is literally the Federal Reserve

[@cezarcatalin1406]

Yan Diamond duping goes brrrrr

[@MrJoJI]

Thats Ultra Omega Hyperventilating Inflation

[@Vienna3080]

Two 10 year olds kissing in Minecraft and this legend noclips at the perfect time dropping economy breaking loot Econonmist hate him!

[@lanthan598]

timestamp?

[@lanthan598]

timestamp?

[@pettttson]

@@lanthan598 11:02

[@ericsarason9099]

MIO

[@giancarlo418]

@@pettttson lmao😂😂😂

[@kswat3853]

I just found your channel today and I have major respect and and admiration for you keep doing what you’re doing

[@comradeviper4054]

we all know that 2b2t players can be some of the most toxic minecraft players out there but I have to admit that they can be genuinely hilarious and heartwarming, such as taking down this shitty server...

[@muchotexto4248]

They are toxic but in a healthy way. They take competence for sure, but they also know when it's time to let go of the games and adress real issues. Hell. You can see 2b2t's enemies of all times walking together if it is a matter out of the anarchy server.

[@PaulBrown-wi9tt]

2b2t's toxicity is not heartwarming or good lol it's bad all toxicity is bad it;s no better than this serer or any other

[@dr.health1688]

Paul Brown. You must be new then.

[@burgertime3458]

How is Hypixel any different? That has pay to win features as well.

[@renatus20058]

@@burgertime3458 I don't think Hypixel is pay to win to be honest. It's more of a cash grab or something because they made it so that you have to pay if you want to get ranks like VIP, VIP+, MVP, MVP+, and MVP++.

[@niksin9941]

its like moonshining, you go into the woods with your buddies and try to hide from the mods

[@niksin9941]

@Flusak1235 thanks

[@idkidk4334]

Mods and cops

[@midnightflare9879]

"Are you hacking?!" "I'm FreeCaming" *Jep, they are from 2b2t*

[@iveseenthings7928]

who's Jepp

[@kentobt8455]

omg are u sherlock????????? :O how did u know? it was that obvious , like fr

[@kellynolen498]

Sounds legit to me

[@firstlast9500]

@@kentobt8455 Its a joke

[@MLGRDR]

people act like 2b2t invented hacks lol, btw Wurst 1.8 was one of the best clients ever invented. I know how to tell if people aren't hacking, tell them to do ./anything

[@desmondruhling]

This is great. I’m super happy to see the server getting what they deserve

[@cringedude7345]

what's wrong with p2w servers, it seems as if everyone treats those kinds of servers worse than the n*zis

[@desmondruhling]

@@cringedude7345 . It’s just that they suck. I don’t know. There are a whole bunch of reasons

[@cringedude7345]

@@desmondruhling Then don't play on them. I understand why they would suck, but why try to shut them down?

[@desmondruhling]

@@cringedude7345 the owners are greedy and probably deserve their server being shut down. Plus, it’s against Mojang’s TOS

[@cringedude7345]

@@desmondruhling Oh, now I understand why they suck. I didn't know they were against Mojang's TOS. Thanks for educating me on this topic.

[@ethanotoroculus1060]

This is what happens when Chaotic Neutral meets Lawful Evil. _It's so satisfying._

[@arandomzoomer4837]

Ethanotor nice, a fellow D&D player.

[@ethanotoroculus1060]

@@arandomzoomer4837 Yeah, and as it happens, I'm actually True Neutral myself, so I have a lot of appreciation for the whole of the alignment system.

[@arandomzoomer4837]

Ethanotor Oculus To be honest, I hate the alignment system, it’s just good to see another D&D fan.

[@ethanotoroculus1060]

@@arandomzoomer4837 ...Fair enough, haha.

[@xyzzy-dv6te]

Lawful Evil is being a TreeMC mod

[@MyGamesterGaming]

“Are you hacking?” “I’m just using free cam” So hacking.

[@HawkUnleashed]

Its UlTiLtY ClIeNtS NoT HaCks. It's not aimbot its UtIlitY

[@FunkyTwoCats]

It's not a hack It's an utility mod.

[@smowoluwu]

oh no he made a joke how dare he

[@rakebluewallgaming6185]

@@FunkyTwoCats OOF free cam not a hack? It's one of the biggest advantages in fractions, I'd say it's the best hack

[@Chir0pt3ra]

Naw naw naw.. It's cheating, not hacking

[@RylHango]

I hate how these kids are unhappy the hackers are giving them free stuff on a p2w server, it just shows how these types of servers can survive if people are too happy to comply to rules and doing what’s “right”

[@popsicleman1834]

People who support EA and Activision be like:

[@enashimo]

Popsicle Man especially the new Culling game its monetization is crazy isane fuck that game you buy the game for 5.99 and when you want to play to a match you need 1 token 1 TOKEN IS GIVEN EVERY DAY dont want that? well pay for more tokens (which is expensive) fuck that shit

[@popsicleman1834]

@@enashimo I know, it's actually disgusting.

[@NotGatt]

Towny revolves around an economy, it's the main characteristic of the gamemode. If there's that much money circulating around, the economy WILL break, therefore it will ruin the experience for everyone, making it worse than it already is. That would discourage many people to play it, which would probably kill the server.

[@big..pablo.]

that’s capitalism for ya

[@Theadventurebox3]

Reminds me of Team Avolition from back in the day. Stellar work, boys o7.

[@cannedbaef]

TreeMC: doesn't shut down server SalC1: *Fine i'll do it myself*

[@rogelioVela1985]

*gives SalC1 all seven chaos emeralds*

[@okipullup7415]

Rogelio Vela "Roger" you ruined it 😕

[@OverAndOverAndOver]

Epic

[@vincebortz7532]

@@rogelioVela1985 bruh, why???

[@mystcat3]

@Jameson Cole This item doesnt exist, dont be a sonic fan here

[@yoctometric]

I said "Any homies out there got a llama I can borrow?" and I got banned

[@deathgame8716]

*llamas elimination has been started*

[@TheSpokenBanana]

My favourite part: 16:58 Treeo: Now that you've done what you've done, will you help us patch it or no? *insane laughter*

[@o4_]

11:13 Yuli - "So nice to see a fun hacker though, instead of a 'break the server' type of hacker" Words that totally aged well