This needs to be a permanent series. Maybe something like £500 to £50k
@lander.m28713 жыл бұрын
Yes and do a roadtrip with each car that would be so fun to watch
@milanlilic69953 жыл бұрын
yall need to make one of these where you go from 5k to something crazy like a mk5 supra
@tomwainwright92223 жыл бұрын
Why stop at 50k - how high can they go?!
@johnedwards31983 жыл бұрын
Mike Brewers Trading Up special
@maciozo13 жыл бұрын
@@clairemarie4621 Pretty much double what they were a few months ago. That one's got a super low milage though.
@c3vzn3 жыл бұрын
The Z4 was the real hero of this series. Ridiculously good buy.
@matteiasm.36183 жыл бұрын
yeah it's insane, the Z4, conditionwise and the price was crazy.
@Vltros3 жыл бұрын
Completely agree. As much as I like the 944, I think it was not a step up from the Z4 Coupé.
@willrocks35043 жыл бұрын
I agree I also think the 944 was a ringer. I’m just not sold you could find one that clean under 8k
@MRZ1234ify3 жыл бұрын
@@willrocks3504 west virgina 500 bucks dime a dozen been trying to get one to work on
@J4NOObs3 жыл бұрын
petition for them to make this series a usual reoccurrence. i enjoy this way to much edit: wow that 944 is nice
@thraciandude3 жыл бұрын
You spoiled😔
@J4NOObs3 жыл бұрын
@@thraciandude oh shit sorry it was spoiled for me to lol maybe dont go to comments if you want a secret lol
@Alexsbriggs3 жыл бұрын
@@J4NOObs it’s right at the top..
@parysknapton90433 жыл бұрын
Buy one then
@insertnamehere69603 жыл бұрын
This is like my ‘first step dream car’ something I want to buy relatively rough/cheap and fix up as my first nice car, I’m 18 and haven’t yet managed to get a test because of COVID but I can dream that these will still be affordable by the time my insurance goes down
@ralphgascon73373 жыл бұрын
“Are you mad bruv” the most quintessentially British thing said in this video. I love it
@42Hertzer3 жыл бұрын
BUT is is a Fugly car. =)
@Scaleo842 жыл бұрын
Even as a Portuguese, i cracked laughing on that one 🤣 😂 😆 💀
@EpicNinjaPlays3 жыл бұрын
Yoooo guys you need to keep this going. This is a brilliant series!
@Todsfitness3 жыл бұрын
Yh
@hamleyn3 жыл бұрын
Completely agree. Why stop here?
@tylerrakusen78133 жыл бұрын
Cracking
@casmon713 жыл бұрын
Mos def
@maxrackstraw3 жыл бұрын
Definitely
@thomasbutler54413 жыл бұрын
As an Aussie, was a little disappointed you guys didn’t get the Monaro. Still the 944 is a great car and it’s been such a good series to watch!!
@jaydendixon73003 жыл бұрын
I think it's ridiculous how cheap they are over there, considering we have to pay upwards of 35k
@thomasbutler54413 жыл бұрын
@@jaydendixon7300 Ultimately comes down to demand which fluctuates the prices. But they’re very quickly becoming a collectors item here in Oz which is driving the prices up. They’re fabulous cars either way.
@XTC953 жыл бұрын
@@jaydendixon7300 just checked carsales and besides some shitbox ones they are more like 50k+ in victoria
@2mckayda133 жыл бұрын
I got irrationally excited when I saw the Monaro then had to calm down remembering they're not as popular over there
@My_Old_YT_Account2 жыл бұрын
Can't you guys just import them?
@waverleyproductions19473 жыл бұрын
I remember on Top Gear when May and Clarkson bought 944s in two separate challenges for £900 and £1500 respectively. Certainly an appreciating classic
@robertsdmitrocenko3 жыл бұрын
Clarkson had a 928,May a 944,Hammond a 924.
@destructionnl81653 жыл бұрын
@@robertsdmitrocenko Clarkson also had a 944 in the ambulance challenge.
@waverleyproductions19473 жыл бұрын
While that is true for the £1500 Porsche challenge, the £1500 944 I’m referring to was Clarkson’s choice of car for a £1500 rear-wheel challenge in 2009 (Series 13 I think) - which featured a Morris Marina as the back up car
@alechall70823 жыл бұрын
The 944 will never appreciate, keep dreaming though
@Jimmer933 жыл бұрын
Didn't Clarkson also buy a 944 for the Ambulance challenge?
@_thenidefyyoustars3 жыл бұрын
I don't wanna see you do another serious of trading up... I want to see this one continue. Keep that budget rolling!
@Galaktisklama3 жыл бұрын
Doubt they'll want to sell that 944 though
@joempoem4783 жыл бұрын
And they aren't making profit. Autotrader paid the cars
@robertsdmitrocenko3 жыл бұрын
I would love to see a Porsche 944 reimaginated by Singer.
@apashe9743 жыл бұрын
I’m not singer but we will do better than them in a few years 🇫🇷
@melangeken3 жыл бұрын
Porc she?
@robertsdmitrocenko3 жыл бұрын
@@melangeken Do you know the Californa Company what restomods old Porsche 911s called "Singer"?
@robertsdmitrocenko3 жыл бұрын
@@melangeken Oh S**t,I now i know what you are talking about.I cant write Porsche correctly. Im from Latvia so Mistakes can happen.😂🤦♂️
@melangeken3 жыл бұрын
@@robertsdmitrocenko It's okay, had a good laugh. I make mistakes too and yes I know Singer it's an awesome company, I would like one of their cars if I had the money.
@noizeuk3 жыл бұрын
"You have to be.. a Quaver to fit in side here". I love Jack, some of the things he comes out with is incredible. You can see the slot machine of words he's thinking of and end up with a crisp snack. It's perfect too, curled up and twisted.
@ghomerhust Жыл бұрын
im glad that he's one of the main folks after alex leaving. he's a lot of fun!
@tomsingleton91603 жыл бұрын
Alex prove how comfy it actually is in the in the back of the 944 (24 hours in a 944) all joking aside great content as always. great work guys!
@luissera12963 жыл бұрын
If I remember right didn’t Jeremy clarkson turn one into an ambulance.
@j2trappy6923 жыл бұрын
@@luissera1296 yes, he had a fully brown turbo which he made into the most dangerous ambulance ever.
@JSMachineWorks3 жыл бұрын
Spoiler alert
@wolfvontyr22663 жыл бұрын
Can we have a video of Alex's mother looking it over and driving it? It'll be wonderful to see her fawning over it... or absolutely tearing into it... whichever way it may go. Also, that documentation is a thing of absolute beauty. Mad props to the guy who collated and curated that collection, that is some true passion and enthusiasm. Look after the car, guys!
@kiratdadrah86763 жыл бұрын
The way how Alex trapped Jack in the boot bought back happy memories of old top gear. Good days 🥲
@Matt-di6nb3 жыл бұрын
Yeah when Hammond was trapped in by Jeremey in the Ambulance episode.
@genshinpostingch3 жыл бұрын
I think it was supposed to be a reference to a time when Alex got trapped in the frunk of a mclaren in a car review.
@Matt-di6nb3 жыл бұрын
@@genshinpostingch I cant remember that
@thestigseuropeancousin79413 жыл бұрын
Keep this car for your personal collection alex, you have a history with it, its a beautiful base to make it 100% perfect
@jamiebrown80313 жыл бұрын
I'd LOVE to see an ongoing series to see how far you can get. Whether it be upgrade all the way to high end sports cars or vintage classics. That would be amazing!
@BobbyDennan13 жыл бұрын
Would happily watch a continuous cycle of trading up series' forever even if we never got any other content. Absolutely brilliant.
@Labgorilla3 жыл бұрын
That was effing brilliant as a mini series. Rory is also a legend. More!!!!
@vibhavshetgaonkar2603 жыл бұрын
These guys are giving me the Jeremy Richard and James vibe with Ethan being James (mostly thinks about something sensible and drives like a mum )
@cmtlr3 жыл бұрын
4 minutes in and I'm guessing they didn't get the Monaro as I saw it on AutoTrader last night during my daily dream scroll...
@Lburt073 жыл бұрын
Yea. Was so hoping they got it.Then they'd have realised wot a good and ( in my opinion) underrated car the Monaro is! In yellow they are better looking than Alex and RUST finding each other again!
@niyampancholi23003 жыл бұрын
"I can feel you inside me Jack" - Alex Car Throttle 13/8/2021
@Gr33nMamba3 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see this format continue, who knows how far you can trade up.
@WastedRevelations3 жыл бұрын
For real now, I want this series to continue I want to see how far they can go from the 944 as a starting point now, this would be so much fun to watch!!
@weatheredmess73003 жыл бұрын
I loved this series and I can't think of a better car to end with 😍, I 100% would be interested in seeing another trading up challenge, maybe with a twist involved 🤔
@muhammadarief7563 жыл бұрын
ive been watching car throttle since 2015, and I'm loving every bits of em. and its just keep getting better. thank you for the great content guys.
@samreid44713 жыл бұрын
Who should make the series into buying and selling cars trying to upgrade every time
@FudaFilms3 жыл бұрын
O'ld out yer HAND!!!!!!
@alesjilich3 жыл бұрын
18:14 Love how Alex disconnects himself from reality due to this proper exhaust noise in the background
@Martin_Denning3 жыл бұрын
"holy grail" surely Ethan could afford some unholy socks? :-p
@TheMoSalah3 жыл бұрын
so i am not the only one who noticed :-D
@NathanMatthews.3 жыл бұрын
Why you even looking at their feet. Werido
@roodick853 жыл бұрын
@@TheMoSalah 🤣🤣🤣 damn!
@Connarrrr3 жыл бұрын
This has been my favourite series you guy's have put out. Would love to see more!
@sdstig3 жыл бұрын
I personally don't even like this style of Porsche but I love seeing how excited they are about that 944! It's kind of infectious
@adamgeigerjr69953 жыл бұрын
between this series & the one where Ethan has to learn/do things on his own they're both fantastic
@marnuscoreyempanadaslooseb67603 жыл бұрын
Lol Patriots are much better than the Bills mate.
@liamtownshend77263 жыл бұрын
I think we all want you to keep trading up this has been awesome to watch .. cheers
@deveshwarsharma48313 жыл бұрын
You guys NEEEEEED to continue this series! This is so exciting to watch, flipping cars to get a better one! What an amazing idea for a series! Please continue this!
@thio_24623 жыл бұрын
Been waiting all week for this, loving the series
@blankblank49493 жыл бұрын
i dont think i coulda brought myself to get rid of the z4, but that 944 is gorgeous. please make more of these, maybe a longer running series with a rule to increase at least 20k in value or something like that. awesome work guys
@TheBackRoads3 жыл бұрын
*Finally! A worthy opponent, our battle shall be legendary!* Well done on the purchase guys 👍 Got in at the right time too with the prices, we look forward to seeing what you do with your one.
@silence99663 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the spoiler!
@JulianDaniel20033 жыл бұрын
@@silence9966 Indeed, also our bads for looking onto the comments tho
@silence99663 жыл бұрын
@@JulianDaniel2003 I always look at the comments idk why lol
@sniperlad1823 жыл бұрын
Mate you ruined the video cheers
@silence99663 жыл бұрын
Haha he changed it so it wouldn't say the cars name good job mate
@biggypsy753 жыл бұрын
I think this three guys are perfect for a new top gear episode BBC!!! who needs a cricket player,a comedian,and a guy that drives cars with a fix it crew,these guys are it all,funny informative,creative and entertaining,i hope some day they get on tv were they belong..just brilliant..
@shalquoir97223 жыл бұрын
This series is definitely up there in my top 3. Been watching you since the beginning 👌🏻
@brycehill6678 Жыл бұрын
Probably my favorite 944 I've ever seen is some mad lad took the 5.4 liter M28/50 out of a 928 and stuffed it in and then somehow mated it to a T56 transmission. If I remember right he built that engine a bit above 500 horses. Absolute mad lad. Loved that car.
@anthonyrowe89173 жыл бұрын
Loved this series! Dont want to see the 944 go but you guys should definitely carry on flipling cars if possible to see how far you can push this 😁👍
@rileyjones70463 жыл бұрын
As much as I love the 944, I was so upset you guys didn't get the Monaro. They're a classic Australian car made and sold in Australia as Holden's but GM sold them as a Vauxhall over there. Holden has been slowly dying since 2013 when they stopped making their cars in Australia and have just died completely closing doors last year. Since then the price of Monaro's have skyrocketed they go for anywhere between $50k and $250k depending on model and condition.
@willforster3 жыл бұрын
This has been a great series guys, looking forward to another in the future.
@dh13802 жыл бұрын
I have always loved the 944. Now you've got me thinking about shopping in my car... hmmmm... Haven't watched this channel in a while and frankly I forgot how good it is. It's also given me the motivation to do some bits and bobs to my car that needing doing... Cleaning it, being one of them (special treat for sailing through its MOT today).
@callumhardy50983 жыл бұрын
A Jag XK would have been a good choice, I can’t believe they never look at jags, right price would have been excellent.
@hgg2193 жыл бұрын
They’re trying to make money not loose it lol 😂
@Jamesmorley19993 жыл бұрын
Agreed! Xk’s are awesome but for 7k it’d be a high mileage example with not great history.
@callumhardy50983 жыл бұрын
@@hgg219 good point
@callumhardy50983 жыл бұрын
@@Jamesmorley1999 an older one, or even an XJ the blue XJ next to the Renault looked good.
@maxeluy3 жыл бұрын
Love the 944, definitely underrated but is gaining traction among enthusiasts. But to be honest the Monaro was more exciting to me.
@mbardos3 жыл бұрын
Or an E46 M3...
@iamstd23 жыл бұрын
I bet you the monaro seller wouldn't budge on price, which means it was 300 over budget
@AdamB21063 жыл бұрын
Awesome lil series! Would definitely want to see more of this! Love the content, definitely missing the podcast!
@fhd37153 жыл бұрын
Awesome stuff! Really enjoyable. I really can't figure out why someone who put that much effort and money into a car would sell it so cheap.
@niklaswejedal4633 жыл бұрын
Loving this! - Also a tip for a future "Living with a ..." video: Today I saw a slammed early 2000s BMW 5-series estate, which seemed to have 2mm of ground clearence, skipping like a demented puppy over the un-even street outside my place of work, while going south of 40 km/h, having it's wheels at angles that would suggest total suspension failiure and scraping it's underbelly in the ground every 3 seconds. Looked absolutely rediculous - so naturally I want to know how it is to live with a slammed car? Please - I need to know!
@_Zekken3 жыл бұрын
Its terrible honestly. Sacrifice anything for "looks". I bought a sports car that was lowered, not even slammed, I got so sick of constantly scraping on speed bumps, driveways, and all that stuff that I raised it back up to factory height. I couldnt fathom driving something completely slammed.
@brendencampen24223 жыл бұрын
It isn’t to bad I drove a 2017 Passat that was lowered 4 inches and I never complained
@niklaswejedal4633 жыл бұрын
@@_Zekken - In other words - it would make for hilarious entertainment!
@incrediblepositivity38043 жыл бұрын
Absolutely disgusting I’ve got a bagged 535 and a lowered bora pd150 absolutely sacrifice any comfort for looks the 535 isn’t too bad when the bags are up but what’s the point in having the bags up lol
@sdaafasfad3 жыл бұрын
Bought a civic type r EP3 a few years ago, mugen everything and on coilovers. I ended up putting the oem shocks back on. Can't mount on a pavement to park so narrow street parking is a no go, you'll scratch the body on the pavement if you're not careful when parking, ride quality is horrific if it's a daily and not a track monster, handling was impeccable and it looked beautiful, at the sacrifice of comfort and convenience.
@SimplyKattastic3 жыл бұрын
I just bought my very first car, a 1995 Toyota Corolla. I've named her Niima and I wanted to say thanks to you guys for all your content because I've learned a lot from watching your videos leading up to this day!
@Srevelation3 жыл бұрын
Challenge you 3 vs Mike brewer trading up that would be good
@alanpassmore22753 жыл бұрын
Or Vs Rory 😉😉
@mhopper3 жыл бұрын
Brewer is insufferable
@1one3_Racing3 жыл бұрын
There was a Torana of this vintage in Australia that was a similar body shape and came with a "tent" You open the hatch and the tent would attach to the hatch and bumper and make your 3 door into a camper! It didn't take off.
@prateeshsobhan38303 жыл бұрын
Can't think of anything other than the striking resemblance between Alex and Hasbullah! 😭
@iamheheisi4450 Жыл бұрын
This channel quickly became not only my favorite youtube car channel but my favorite KZbin channel period.
@xxsecretspartanxx3 жыл бұрын
I rarely comment but this needs to be a regular thing, this is the perfect series, everyone wishes they were Del boy but most end up being a Rodney xD
@hcAsicted3 жыл бұрын
Please make this an ongoing series. Trade up to a supercar should be the goal. Show wins and losses. Amazing!
@marcevans12843 жыл бұрын
Love to see you both get so genuinely excited about a car - whilst going straight over Ethan's head 🙆
@althejazzman3 жыл бұрын
Buying a 944 10 years ago was the reason I'm so involved with classic cars now. It's also the only car I've ever sold because every other car I either still own, or was scrapped.
@j0rss3 жыл бұрын
this car is incredibly beatiful. My uncle had one back in the 00s, so many menories
@jammiewins Жыл бұрын
The 'look in the direction you want to face when the parachute opens' tip was worth the view, but also this is exactly how i end driving these routes.
@Hadhoudtn3 жыл бұрын
One question comes to my mind though : Why would someone take good care of his iconic car to finally sell it for under 7K pounds ? I don't get it...
@olivergriffiths44453 жыл бұрын
Probably because he needed the money for something else; i doubt he wanted to sell it.
@omzy87003 жыл бұрын
Yh it doesn’t make sense especially when he spent over £10k on it
@leg013 жыл бұрын
It’s called children .. :-)
@indianboy04533 жыл бұрын
Financial turmoil forces one to make desperate decisions.. I feel for the poor guy who owned this car before Alex. I wouldnt want to part ways with something that special.
@Jabber-ig3iw3 жыл бұрын
Because that’s all it’s worth. You could spend 30k on a full strip down restoration but it will still only be worth what the market says it’s worth, you would get a bit of of a jump because of the condition but you will never get your money back. Who knows why they sold it, circumstances change, I emigrated last year and had to sell both of my cars, one I intended to keep the rest of my life and the other I’d only bought 9 months earlier. You never know what’s around the corner.
@guineapigsheep3 жыл бұрын
You can tell Rory loved it when he started it up. Made me really smile!
@ScandiSledder80003 жыл бұрын
Brilliant series, no more to say
@dominickthornburghakaTRG3 жыл бұрын
That is the best looking 944 I have ever seen. Insanely clean for the age as well. And I agree this is a great series. It should continue, but I think you should keep the 944 and start a new series called (10 Grand and Up.)
@oksquall3 жыл бұрын
“So I’ve mentioned it once or twice” That’s per podcast I would say.
@markwright31613 жыл бұрын
The one thing mentioned more than the Royal Mail. :)
@1986XRV82 жыл бұрын
I bought an Arctic white 84 944 a couple of months ago. $4,000 Canadian with full service history. 229,000 KM. Love it!
@Speedsnapcreations3 жыл бұрын
Damn disappointed you didn't manage to get the Monaro, the car you chose was cool tho
@abstractgroove1603 жыл бұрын
This definitely can’t be the end of this series. Keep it going! And now I want another Z4…sold my 3.0i to my dad a few years ago, cracking car.
@Conceptcreator3 жыл бұрын
Sorry but the rear of the GTV doesn't look good.... Also... This should continue for sure!
@Divi6663 жыл бұрын
I've really enjoyed this series, you might want to continue with it. Although, don't sell the 944, you'll regret it. I've owned a 944 S2 from my 20th to 26th, 6 years later I still regret selling it, especially when seeing you guys get so excited about it!
@whatevernevermind59603 жыл бұрын
Can’t believe it’s been 2 years since the first cheap car challenge vid!
@Petrik_333 жыл бұрын
honestly felt shorter and longer as well but...might just be me
@papaannefranku96933 жыл бұрын
@@Petrik_33 it’s been a weird 2 years!
@travellingt4273 жыл бұрын
Defo need to see more trading up ! Smaller budget to much larger budget with more episodes !
@unwatchablevgaming88973 жыл бұрын
love all the vids and would love you to do more of these
@Clutchdjw3 жыл бұрын
Very happy to see the car is one that I have 😁 mine is getting the engine removed for resto this winter along with a few other bits. Would love to see a series with this car!
@alexrclark16183 жыл бұрын
Amazing! Would love a 944!
@perebe8073 жыл бұрын
This type of content suits this channel perfectly. Loved it!
@PTMxCh00bX3 жыл бұрын
Somebody said this: "I'm throwing down the gauntlet right here, this series has to continue until you get a Lambo. It is the only way!" I agree but an LFA god please
@vicswanby454 Жыл бұрын
I'd like to see more of your trade up series good fun and nice job boys!
@lesliewoodley23843 жыл бұрын
Sad Car!!! I own a original 2003 Holden GTO Monaro and they r SICK!!! Peace and love from NZ.
@darkchild1303 жыл бұрын
I had a Monaro vxr for 2 years and I loved it.
@ljphoenix43413 жыл бұрын
those cars are wicked cool. Saw one only a few hours before typing this reply, they both look and sound awesome. A modern classic
@chrissys2k1243 жыл бұрын
MY favourite series on youtube right now... please keep going!
@mrn80323 жыл бұрын
You know its a good car when two adults fight over who's car it is.
@NoblePineapples3 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't mind of Rory was on the channel more. The four of you together is fantastic.
@callumtilsed26603 жыл бұрын
Was looking forward to seeing the Monaro, this just doesn’t do it for me 😂 I’m really not a German car fan, look forward to the next one!
@jordanh.29983 жыл бұрын
Yeah this definitely needs to be a regular thing. I very much enjoyed this series.
@aayushnavsariwala57513 жыл бұрын
Alex and Jack fighting over whose car it is makes this so much funnier 😂
@christophercox91503 жыл бұрын
This has been a great series, you've got to keep it going. Maybe some tasteful repairs to the interior, full clean and tidy to the paintwork, followed by a tour (Nurburgring?). Then.... trade up again?
@Timmymantwo3 жыл бұрын
This should be repeated though I'd say you don't do it on Auto Trader. A car cleaning products sponsor would be good for a continued series of this
@musiccylinderK63 жыл бұрын
Hehey!! I'm glad a 944 is on the show, finally! :D Cheering you on, I bought my 944 S (1987) a few months ago, I also plonked a Momo Prototipo wheel on as I am long and gangly like Jack (same name too). It's a driving project and it's great fun!
@Ginbaubabe3 жыл бұрын
Surely Alex meant it whole-heartedly when he said “Rory is very average at his job” because he is simply stating a fact 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@randomtoyotadude89522 жыл бұрын
I liked the house behind the porche.. lovly house with nice back yard..
@page11racing893 жыл бұрын
My first car was a 1985 pre 85 1/2 with the old style gauges. I had a mystery overheating issue, changed everything, could run for hours but once stopped would overheat.
@KR4K403 жыл бұрын
When I was looking at a replacement for my first car, I was looking at two models within the same budget of 10k€ (I'm French and cars are expensive here): the BMW 130i and the Porsche 944 I bought a 130i, because I needed usable backseats for my brothers who don't have their driving license yet. While I absolutely love the sound of the N52 and the car in general, not a single day goes by that I don't look back and think I probably should have gotten the 944. Great car m8s, looks phenomenal in red
@JamesEden3 жыл бұрын
Yes. Keep the series running. Everyday to supercar trade up series
@vauxtec94003 жыл бұрын
Keep it going lads dont stop this series everyone loves this sorta thing....go for 500-500k ;)
@silverduan3 жыл бұрын
I would have liked to seen it go up to at least 5 cars but like Rory said, that 944 is proper! Enjoyed it!
@bighes1003 жыл бұрын
We're glad he/you/they bought the 944 for him/you/them to drive for us/we/them to watch.
@DSCMBOBULTD3 жыл бұрын
Please continue this series! Even just once every 1-2 months. See how far you can go with it
@jaredmacfarlane87323 жыл бұрын
This as a series has been one of the best guys. Would absolutely love too see another few of these!!
@AVIATIONEUROPE3403 жыл бұрын
From a vw up to a Porsche 944 definitely one of the best cars that carthrottel have bought it's in very good condition
@JimmyLLL3 жыл бұрын
Should have got the monaro. They are very expensive here in Australia where they were built. You would have had a lot of fun with the v8 and easy to make power. I have a soft spot for the Porsche too.
@teaparker77913 жыл бұрын
This car brings back a few memories. I remember my father taking us on holiday in a 944. Packed in like sardines, mum, dad, 5 boys and 2 weeks worth of clothing. You could get away with quite a lot back in the 80s. Wouldn’t dream of doing it with my wife and boys nowadays.