We Tried To Get SCAMMED on Facebook Marketplace Buying Cars

[@mightycarmods]

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[@andyhunter5869]

This should have been a video about how content creators can use various filming and editing techniques to make viewers think legitimate businesses and the hard-working people within them are scammers when they're not. I particularly enjoyed how the bank's antifraud service was the result of Moog's user error and entering an incorrect name. Still, we were led to believe something nefarious was going on. Bravo.

[@Sev_Auk]

What percentage of the scammers are non-native born Australians?

[@AndrewGeierMelons]

Thanks for being honest about the dealership not being a scam in the end. But, still be careful. I saw another comment mentioning that it could just be a money laundering operation instead... Love the show and will continue to watch it but just be mindful of the possibility that selling cheap cars with e-transfers, it would be pretty easy to move vast amounts of money around and launder it if needed...

[@DM-wp9vq]

Great video chaps! Loved it

[@shaynewilliams2594]

I find this funny just because u guys are the biggest scammers on the net lol

[@MrTurbo_]

"I'm going to buy a car that is definitely a scam" **Accidentally get an amazing deal** *Task failed successfully*

[@The.Drunk-Koala]

Sponsored by Facebook marketplace

[@SCUL-E]

I feel like they came up with this bit just to further push how much of a deal it is.

[@Stripestore]

​@@SCUL-ERight - what would have happened if they messaged the seller who had it listed for $25k? Yet he paid $32k? Definitely felt like a bit.

[@Nordic_Mechanic]

rockstar would fail you the mission

[@Madaz]

@@SCUL-E maybe, but i have seen those adverts with a car thats too cheap, and when you look at their profile there is heaps of cars

[@JohnClark-ew8dh]

Goes to be scammed, ends up with a bargain, helps set up cctv system and cameras 🤣

[@GetOffMyLog]

Moog really lives a magical life. What a legend

[@rvoykin]

The fact that the guy even detailed it for you when you thought it was a scam was just salt in the wound 😂

[@johnt.848]

He knows they are junk and was happy to sell his problem onto the next sucker.

[@jama211]

@@johnt.848 no? not at all? did you even watch the video? are you just trolling?

[@johnt.848]

@@jama211 Oh I watched it troll boy, but I know from experience their motors are junk.

[@DevilsWings]

@@johnt.848 But it wasn´t junk tho, the car turned out to be solid.

[@Mr.SamJack]

​@@DevilsWingsI guess he means that those Minis in general are junk and not the cars the dealer was selling

[@Gunnutt]

Very rich Asians in China, Singapore, Korea etc, will send their kids to top universities overseas to get their education. While the kids are there, they buy near/brand new cars because they are so much cheaper than in their home country. When they leave for home, they sell the car for dead cheap because they don't care about the money. Those are the unbelievable deals you see sometimes that appear to be scams. I'd say the dealer in this case knows where to get leaving-the-country cars.

[@wobblysauce]

Some didn't even have 5K on the clock and was close to 1/2 price.

[@RandomToon1]

This is legit the secret sauce in the states. Go to a college town and buy a week before graduation - but be very careful, because a whole lot of them have never gotten a single oil change because they know they are going to be thrown away.

[@MintJoker9578]

I wish i am one of the very rich asians that can buy new cars when go to overseas university😢

[@Rattus-Norvegicus]

​@@MintJoker9578Those types of people that just use and discard are the ones that are destroying the world.

[@SWHAF]

i live close to a University town in canada. it was a popular destination for forgin Asian students (mostly Japan and China) and they would go crazy for Acura's (Honda luxery brand not sold in the asian market). when they graduate they would sell them really cheap. so many of my friends drove Acura's they bought for cheap back in the early 2000's.

[@pokinacha]

MCM goes to deliberately get scammed and comes away with a legit car for a bargain price… smells like a scam…

[@ADudesRotary]

On us

[@The.Drunk-Koala]

Sponsored by Facebook marketplace

[@Stratos1988]

Double karma latte. MCM got back good karma for being always absolute legends while viewers, little prickly princesses that we are, get envy for what a deal he fished out of FB.

[@grecosicario130]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@michaelraymont6109]

I had a bloke buy a car off me during Covid. He was in Hobart and I was in Sydney. He had a mechanic check it over, transferred the cash into my bank account. Waited for me to confirm it was in my account and then organised a truck to come pick it up. I couldn't believe it! I felt scared on his behalf and he was buying from me!

[@LonneLpp]

Two good lads coming together on a deal!

[@DanielSan-ch7dr]

I did something similar during covid. Wasn't allowed to travel to inspect car so the whole deal was made over the phone from the details amd photos. Paid a deposit sent a tow truck and said once you send me a picture of the car on the tow truck I'll send the final payment and that's how it was done. Luckily the car was 4k under value cause it wouldn't start thanks to a broken fuse. Another guy bought a motbike from nz and paid me to deliver 4hrs away for when he came on holidays he had a bike to ride and then gave to his son when finsnhed.

[@sdaafasfad]

I had a guy in Northern Scotland take a taxi to Inverness Airport, and fly to London, to pick up my 2008 declared previously crash damaged (I declared this on the advert and the fella was happy with it) Seat Leon - all the way to Southend airport, around 500 miles away. It was only a £2000 car but I had to confirm that he knew it wasn't like an Audi R8 or something but just a 1.9 TDI Seat Leon. He drove it back upto Scotland and it took him over 8 hours to drive back. He paid £1000 deposit via bank transfer and I thought to myself I'd never take such a monumental risk and find one closer to home, they're not exactly rare cars. He was ecstatic with it!

[@propersuspect2959]

Have had this happen on many occasion. I always ask them if they'd rather come in person but their trust level online is insane.

[@dustyodyssey]

Poor dude, no wonder he is having a hard time selling those cars 😅

[@shanethrelfall416]

He thinks he’s been extra helpful having more people sell for him but it’s actually damaging his chances of a sale Poor bloke 😂😂🤦🏻‍♂️

[@stanatqc]

I would suggest he takes photos of the car at different places, so it won't trigger false red flags

[@ChristopherHallett]

@@stanatqc Better yet, stop using "brokers".

[@Wingspan_5]

@@stanatqc Or just pay Facebook to promote his posts XD I see the same car over and over too, it's just a promoted post

[@sigmamale6128]

@@Wingspan_5 yeah i dont know why he didnt just do that. i doubt the "brokers" are real its probably just him or his friends with fake accounts.

[@GCL110]

Stock isn't moving because everyone is still applying the covid tax. Used cars need a massive price correction to sell.

[@Rollin8.0]

So do houses!

[@tikiiee7758]

as someone who just sold there car on marketplace in sydney, the amount of people that were trying to scam me was absolutely crazy. ( also had scammers from Carsales )

[@crisnmaryfam7344]

Its ridiculous everywhere. I used to deal with it flipping cars here in the states. I also live in a little podunk town in Ohio. You wouldnt think it would be so bad in smaller areas but it is literally everywhere.

[@inwardpod]

Sydney also has illiteracy? Damn it

[@tikiiee7758]

@@inwardpod you must be cool

[@andrewdunbar828]

@@inwardpod shitloads

[@alexcorona]

*their

[@TheVersatileDan]

“Fake buyers offer to buy the car, often with minimal questions and without inspecting the car first.” Isn’t this the MCM car buying rules according to Moog?

[@LimitR]

At 12:11 when Moog says "Do you know what we need to do". I was fully expecting him to say "buy it now sight unseen". Was actually surprised he went to look at the car.

[@Stratos1988]

@@LimitR I was expecting him to say "we need to go there, show up in my MINI"

[@pepapu7112]

That's how I buy my dirt cheap BMWs

[@mrdodgex]

Scamming really needs to be more looked into as a crime. Its absolutely everywhere

[@garthor]

That's the problem really... there's more money in scamming than catching scammers, which means there's more scammers than people catching them...

[@germaineliew2012]

​@garthor Corruption is probably one big reason, especially in developing nations, corrupted authorities and scammers end up making those places scam central. Even with expose from scambaiting channels, the police in those places did nothing. Even if action was taken, it's all just for show. Scammers were tipped to go into hiding ahead of time, and when the storm dies down, it's business as usual, or they'll just keep on scamming as a different entity. An endless cycle.

[@stephensteele3553]

It's absolutely looked into. It's just really hard to enforce because it often crosses international borders. And in some countries the law enforcement is bought and paid for. So even if it is looked at in the location the scam occurs, it's not enforced where the scammer is

[@xutubeify]

Internet and online shopping sure has made scamming a real issue

[@germaineliew2012]

@@stephensteele3553 Corrupted officials and scammers go hand in hand in making these regions scam central. Sometimes the officials are directly involved too, cheating both international and locals. No matter how many expose videos done by those scambaiting channels do, the police won't do anything. They would only take action if there is media pressure, and even that is just a PR song and dance, as often those involved are tipped off in advanced to go into hiding. Once the storm dies down, it's business as usual.

[@michaelsherwin3]

This dealer is going to blow up

[@aleksisjeske9162]

MOOG! We bought a car from the same lot about 6 months ago. I recognized the guy straight away. In our case he wasnt much help but the main dealership did the sale for us. We picked up the cheapest JL Wrangler Rubicon in the country at the time. As you were sus so were we.. We did all the same checks and felt quite nervous. The only reason we didnt walk away to be honest is that the i am very familiar with these Jeeps and have built one up myself. I knew where to look and and what to ask. The dealer knew nothing about the vehicle. We have built my mates JL into a big rig and its running flawless. Risk it to get the biscuit. Well done on the episode!

[@raphdraft]

What's the name of the dealership?

[@karizma8175]

Could still be a stolen recovery - or just stolen, and shipped here in a crate.

[@johnymst]

Who is this dealership?

[@pauloslife]

​@@raphdraft Allen. The man has 4.9 star reviews on Google. Pretty solid.

[@TheSneakyTruth]

Also requesting dealership name

[@SD-oi9gr]

That’s wild. What a great advertisement for a decent salesman who has great deals and even details the car.

[@SmallBikeStuff]

That civic though.....

[@wurlycorner]

Absolutely that

[@STUCASHX]

Yellow.

[@p.informatico1320]

4k and VTEC... maybe a EK3?

[@wurlycorner]

@@p.informatico1320 or just clickbait

[@ChinitFxt]

For real

[@BrianChieu]

The "brokers" are essentially posting misleading ads to drive traffic to the actual seller which is still dodgy.

[@dmacpher]

At least the man was honest about that, props to him

[@geoffwatches]

Technically not his fault, it's his brokers. Bit car salesy but not 'dodgy'

[@meikgeik]

It's against TOS for Facebook also, so if enough people report them they'll get banned. I was recently buying an RV and there was one that popped up for $10k less than it should have been. When I looked at the profile it was listed in every major city in the country. Reported the account and it got banned.

[@edvin884]

I live in Germany and I found a car in Finland. Nothing unusual. The car was on German plates. Perfect. But. The "owner" works on an oil rig and he needs to get rid of the car, and that's why it's 30% cheaper than the others with same age, mileage, etc. So I told him that I will be in Finland in two days to check the car. Never heard from him again.

[@DG_427]

As a Finn, why would you buy a car from here? We salt our roads and the cars get used a lot since the distances are long. Some of us buy cars from Germany, because they are better equipped, less driven and in better condition.

[@ToreDL87]

@@DG_427 Depends on the car, rare JDM's you might not have a choice.

[@edvin884]

@@DG_427 because it was an "Invincible" package on an Hilux. And on "german plates". So the "owner" left it there when he went to "work on an oil rig". And as I work for a car transporting company, transport would not be a cost for me.

[@Harry_Gersack]

​@@DG_427 We also have salt on the roads for at least 5 months of the year. Also I'd rather buy a car with 150 000km on the clock that has been driving long distances, than a car with 90 000km that has only been driving short trips. Btw I thought you guys have less or no salt on the roads and drive with spikes 🤔 What I can definitely tell you though is: the warmer it is, the worse the salt becomes. When it's significantly under 0°, the salt tends to stay solid and not get so slushy. In most regions in germany the temperature doesn't stay below 0 for long time spans. So winter is pretty wet here. The salt mixes with the melting snow (that already melts without the salt) and you have a brown salty slush on the roads for about 4 months. Since climate change started to kick in the winters in germany (or at least my region) are terrible.

[@Harry_Gersack]

​@@edvin884Multiple german KZbinrs got burned when they bought cars from sweden lol I think there is something going on with germans buying used cars from Scandinavians 😂

[@andrewwebster7706]

Great topic guys. FYI - a few months ago I contacted Facebook themselves to try and get a scammer blocked...and was told on many occasions that there was nothing wrong with the ad (or many ads).

[@Nereosis16]

Facebook doesn't give a shit

[@trivy1752]

i got scammed by guy selling a car (Subaru WRX '07) with a "clean" title but was "washed" through a different state's DMV and was actually a salvage title car

[@am529]

happened to me with an ‘04 Chevy Malibu, but I’d say I got more than my money’s worth out of it. Definitely ordering a CarFax (or similar) next time.

[@crisnmaryfam7344]

@@am529 Car fax is trash. Do some research. "Car vertical" is a tiny bit better but still relies upon people reporting the accidents. If the accident or damage to the car is taken care of privately with out insurance and such, it never gets documented. Some of the more major car repair youtubers have been talking about it.

[@MrAminalCrackers]

@@crisnmaryfam7344 Why is carfax trash? I think it's over expensive, but it does what it claims, no? Would have definitely caught the title washing.

[@CGS11900]

America I’m guessing? Australia has a national system. Hopefully America will one day as well.

[@yearight6294]

@@CGS11900usa has over 10x as much population. there's 13 million more people in the state of california alone than the entirety of australia. unfortunately i don't ever see that happening as it's prolly too late

[@stuartwilson9064]

This was so much better than where I thought this was heading. I’m actually stoked the guy who sold the car was a legend. 🤙🏽

[@hiccuplord5683]

I constantly report facebook marketplace accounts that have duplicate listings with extremely low prices/kms and have yet to have one single one actually removed

[@paulaus]

There are obvious scam sellers with too good to be true prices, often for motorhomes, with dozens of listings for different vehicles and all the photos are stolen from other advertising sites. Reporting to Facebook is useless.

[@The.Drunk-Koala]

Sponsored by Facebook marketplace

[@LostMem0ry14]

Same man. My dad's car got written off recently so I had to spend hours and hours on FB Marketplace trying to find him a new one. I saw sooooo many cars advertised as "great condition, blah blah, clean title, no liens", which is obviously a scam as we don't tend to use the terms like "clean title" in the UK. Like you I would report loads of these listings as scams (and almost every account was clearly a compromised account from a real person locally) but every time FB would get back to me with some generic reply like "we checked out the listing and found it didn't violate our community standards".

[@zenmoto369]

You have way too much free time, are you employed? :D

[@meikgeik]

@@zenmoto369 Maybe they work at some kind of job with tons of downtime? Receptionist, on call tech, security guard, firefighter, etc. You're commenting on youtube, are YOU unemployed?

[@RyannickGalicia-g5i]

its just same here in the Philippines, all you have to do is to find the real owner and mostly the real owner sell's the car in smaller amount than the others. I also ask my friend who's in Australia to buy me your merch's and she agrees...I can't wait to wear those shirt. I'm a fan here in the Philippines. I just love cars and your modifications and actually learning from you guys❤

[@brIceni-x4w]

Really appreciate you guys doing this. It's something everyone can potentially be subjected to. Awareness or education is our greatest weapon.

[@Aesir5]

20:16 this is really good explanation

[@rat_mortuis]

Maserati "Shiver" 😂

[@fliesbylonk]

Took me a moment 😂

[@sirabdude14]

As someone w/ an F56 build in progress I am super excited to see where this goes

[@your_average_enthusiast]

A big one in the US, i live in the desert and see pictures of cars that are in a forest anddefinitely too good to be true. You go to their profile and the same car is listed in every major city in multiple states.

[@your_average_enthusiast]

@@7275vrt Ha! That's where i live

[@jacobemerson8015]

I've reported several of those, but Facebook said they didn't see a problem

[@ToreDL87]

@@jacobemerson8015 Facebook only has a problem if someone can be remotely connected to not being 200% supporting of the gender dysphoria thing. Anyone else (98% of people) can sod off, aren't the intended users, and has no rights there.

[@Nereosis16]

​@@jacobemerson8015not a problem for Facebook apparently

[@averyso6669]

I always check their profile before contacting. Past sales and stuff like that go a long way as far as credibility.

[@terryhayward7905]

I love the fact that your channel is all about small cars, in a country that is almost as big as the USA where every car is like a huge tank.

[@SpikeKastleman]

20:29 - That's our Moog! What a great guy you are, Blair. 💚

[@grantclements7757]

Bloody Great Effort fellas and crew! Genuine help the community based video! Love it❤

[@n2n8sda]

Seller seemed like a really nice guy. Guess he's had them a while at a good price and like he said, with the economy being so fickle these days it's probably not the best idea for a smaller business to be holding a lot of stock at this time. Look forward to seeing what you do with this motor. My brother also has a classic and bmw mini! The bmw one seems to be constantly in pieces but I think thats due to the sheer number of things you can get to bolt on to it!

[@woodchukka]

Great work calling this out. There are so many cars (and other items) that are being sold like this. Sad that this is not being addressed by the authorities. I did buy a cheap 3 series BMW with an N55 during Covid lockdowns from Victoria only relying on pictures and descriptions. It was through a legit auction house. Thankfully, it was legit and is a good car.

[@Fabulousprofound168]

So… did Marty buy the yellow Civic?

[@eTiMaGo]

I have a feeling we'll have a part 2 where this is the actual scam :D

[@Anarchy522XD]

Yes he did. Last few seconds of the video Moog said "That new car you bought smells of cigarette smoke." Then Marty said "yeah but what a bargain. "

[@The.Drunk-Koala]

Sponsored by Facebook marketplace

[@theegwana2103]

Smells of cigarette and bong smoke 😂

[@JeroenvdWal]

Tip for the parts buyers: when looking to buy used parts and they send you a picture, scan it with google lens. You will soon find out if its a picture taken from the internet and then probably is a scam

[@neilrobertson1345]

What is the google lens tell us more could be al life saver

[@_Dimon_]

@@neilrobertson1345 that's just google picture search on a phone.

[@HyperFragHD]

@@neilrobertson1345 Its an app you download on your phone and when in the app, you can scan anything with it such as a photo and it will show up relevant or similar photos online

[@chinsteig]

@@neilrobertson1345 it is just reverse image search, google wrapped it in an app called google lens. It can also do live translations of other languages on signs.

[@mijgreco3914]

Yeah my dad put up a wanted ad got a reply back, dad asked for pics, got pics and said he'll pay a deposit until he gets a tracking number to confirm it's been sent. He never heard from him again. 300 bucks down the drain. I asked dad to send me the pics and I put them through google reverse image search and sure enough found the item for sale in Spain 🤣

[@maish69]

22:05 Plays Rick Astley on repeat, scammed!

[@quinngerlinger7347]

I was about to comment about Rick!

[@franskamstra2728]

thanks for having a great clip on scammers. also really great to see your mini again

[@davidrochow9382]

I always live by the rule " if somethings to good to be true , it most probably is". One of the best things about being computer illiterate is that you can't be ripped off by people asking you to send them money for something as you don't know how. For those reasons I will never buy a vehicle unless I can check it out in person.

[@iaintdonknow]

In smaller european countries the issue is becoming more in person: Example fake cops, they knock on your door and explain your identity has been stolen and they are investigating it. They take all your details!

[@srikarvishnu3983]

I was a student when I fell for one of these scams, was heartbroken… thanks for bringing it attention

[@mathewrolet5679]

The common one I've seen recently is suspect kilometres . Now, being able to check the last 3 rego check kilometres in Nsw, there were many cars that had 3 rego checks within weeks of each other, disguising the real kilometres. Called out few sellers asked why 3 rego checks in a month and they all promptly blocked me

[@timsminigarage]

Unfortunately new cars don’t have rego checks for 5 years so something as new as this mini don’t have any odometer readings recorded on service NSW (I did a check on this mini while watching) It works well for older cars though

[@mathewrolet5679]

@timsminigarage Yes, good point!

[@philgoodinc2]

Yeah I heard about this type of scam as well. It's so damn scummy, and even worse that it works. The site should let you see all the readings, not just the last few.

[@sausagedog52]

after seeing how easy it is to wind back kms on most modern cars I always judge a car based not on mileage but on its physical condition as its presented to me, also wear depends hugely on how the car was driven and how it was cared for. you can have something that was abused for 100,000km but then there's another really tidy example with 300,00+ and you'd never be able to tell it had that high of kms by its condition

[@deemoIII]

Thank you guys for clearing a few things up, I'm currently looking for a car and see so many dodgy looking ads it's unbelievable. I'm a bit less anxious about it now

[@ryanbridges7241]

Pretty sure this was just an excuse for Moog to buy a mini making us think it was a video about a scam, so he has a valid excuse for buying and owning it.

[@subadude3543]

and using it as a business expense for tax time.

[@geek9642]

Of course it was

[@kovacspis]

Welcome to KZbin where most things aren't true. MCM included.

[@DRCHEESE387]

The whole I don't like BMW MINI, enemies to lovers trope. He either secretly loves them or he will fall for it. 🤣

[@maddoctor99]

12:20 It’s reassuring that, even after 16 years working together, you guys are in no danger of knowing what each other is thinking, let alone finishing each other’s sentences! 😂

[@exc911ence_channel]

13:53 Moog drives by a blue '70s Valiant Charger R/T! That's the next car that MCM needs. 😁

[@cameronrussell9362]

You have great vision!

[@samward6322]

Was just going to make this comment!

[@Jakanddaxter1999]

My dad has a mustard one. Probably the only one that’s rust free

[@cassanth]

Saw this and thought I might be the only mcm fan to love chargers.

[@jameshaddon2949]

Mopar or no car 🤘🏼

[@goulash75]

Congratulations, you didn't get scammed. That's a success.... wait... what was I trying to do in this video again?!?

[@nosnhoj99]

The main thing to take away from this is: research research research. And also be prepared to take an L cause everyone has a plan til they get punched in the face. But, when the stars align hopefully you'll be left with a nugget of gold and not a pile of shit.

[@Psyopcyclops]

First time I’ve ever watched one of your videos. You lads are cracked. Love the format. Love the energy between the boys. Love the humour. Legends.

[@korsion]

And when you report them to facebook, they do nothing.

[@shanethrelfall416]

What a wonderful genuine seller Never come across any like this before Seems like a really decent chap

[@stevenlippis5488]

Marketplace is just trash. Never tried to buy anything because selling has always been such a nightmare. Not even scammers. Just trash people doing trash things.

[@germaineliew2012]

I tried selling on Marketplace once. And I attempted to sell one of my tech gadgets, following the average price of other postings. Massive waste of time. What I got was just a bunch of people messaging "Is this still available", only to never hear back for them when I replied. And then there was this one guy desperately trying to lowball me. Kept sending a message saying "I'll give you cash for this, close the deal right now" almost everyday even after I ignored his messages. Gave up and took the listing down. To be honest, what can we expect if Marketplace is easily accessible to the users of a massive brain rot platform. Whatever good online sales page local to you, best just to stick to that. At least they're made by and for the people who knows how online sales platforms should work.

[@roymoorman5990]

Thanks! Good set of tips! I just need to add something. Not having airbags replaced or the ECU doesn't fully exclude possibility of any major damage. Example: damaged while being parked or transported. Unlikely ? maybe but I've seen examples. I've had so many red flags for cars & parts in Germany. Locations close to the border is an instant red flag over here.

[@sadfghjkllkjhgfdsfg]

re: bank transfer names not matching - i transferred money to mate for concert tickets. i put their nickname in the "account name" section, and before it even let me transfer the money it popped up and said "this name isn't what people usually call this account, are you sure?" which was cool

[@woodsy900]

The fact that Australia has had this kind of protection on money transfers for over 10 years is great. I first got a letter from the bank telling me the money has been put in hold until I can verify the account details and it will take two weeks to clear once I confirm it's correct or incorrect

[@Stratos1988]

While I was getting scammed (sadly, bastard pulled it off), while sending money tranfer my bank didn't even let it out at all. The second I pressed send it was returning some error. Sadly error was something vague like "Unable to execute" but later when it finally dawned at me what has happened, I concluded that his account must've been blacklisted and system was trying to protect me.

[@flibblesan]

Yeah we have this kind of protection in the UK.

[@MattMathisSoftwareGuy]

"Danger to manifold" graphic got me good. Legitimately a good video on how to verify and investigate car sale postings online.

[@kevinwilliams7012]

There’s another one doing the rounds in the UK, the buyer asks you to get a vehicle report and suggests a website to use. You pay the money and get no report!!!

[@paulaus]

Unreal!

[@bennywallis1527]

Yeah, I had that twice here in Australia.. One .EU page and one somewhere else. $55 bucks to do it. When I asked and mentioned that VicRoads has one similar for $30 , they said something along the lines of, this is is the best site, blah blah blah. I had the sob stories of them being ripped off with other cars.. I didn't do it, but I wrote back saying I did and it failed with a repairable write off.. They then said, eh, I don't want it now. HAHAHA

[@Matt_Huffman]

This was a great awareness video! I always shake my head at people who fall for these scams. But I can see how someone could get mislead. Stay chopped ✌️

[@MrManBuzz]

The first gen Minis are the best ones BMW made, in terms of raw fun. The supercharger whine never gets old.

[@samteks125]

Just like their engines blowing up, never gets old 😎

[@MrManBuzz]

@@samteks125 The W11 in R53s are pretty strong engines. They don't go bang at the drop of a hat. Tell me you don't know Minis without telling me you don't know Minis. Preface lift R56 Cooper Ss are the blowy uppy Minis.

[@BlahBleeBlahBlah]

The R53 motors are rock solid, I absolutely love my JCW

[@petec2583]

They're also actually pretty damn small and light compared to everything else on the road these days... unlike the big old lard bus Moog just bought 😂

[@MrManBuzz]

@@petec2583 Yeah, that had always annoyed me. BMW Minis are small cars. Especially the R53 and R56.

[@aarranlyon6851]

As someone who also loves Mini's its great to see another Mini on the channel. Ive got an f56 JCW its by far the best car I have owned. loads of mods for these cars out there a remap is a must on these cars.

[@Jvkeruss]

I recently sold a car and I had one potential buyer who asked seemingly genuine questions then send me a link to get a roadworthy through a particular company. Seemed odd so I did some research and the website was only a few days old. Yeah nah.

[@TheLiewster]

PPSR checks dont tell you if the odometer has been roll back or if the car has been in a flood and has been 'repaired' - i had a bad experience on this matter. Buying used is like a box of chocolates... You never know what you gonna get! 😅 Great vid guys.

[@syntonicpaul]

PPSR (aware of it having bought cars) Is also a slack dinner in our house for the kids. Party Pies and Sausage Rolls from Aldi! 😂

[@stevennaday3294]

Great video guys, you were very very very lucky. I'm on FB market place every day and I can show you dozens of ads that are a scam in about 10 minutes

[@MrMaxidc]

The take away from this.......Dealer dumping stock before RECESSION hits.... Dealers own words...🤔🤔🤔

[@ChromecastM8]

They can probably see money slowly disappearing. I've been watching Facebook market place for the last year for boats and dirt bikes, they are coming up cheaper and cheaper, people are getting rid of their toys for way cheap, I guess either from covid or money issues.

[@timber_Fell]

Hell ya! I own a R58S and love it! I've been considering some mods but haven't done much except a CAI, lower engine bushing, and adjustable sway bar. Can't wait to see what you guys do!

[@gureno19]

This was the best guerrilla marketing ad for this mans dealership ever 😂

[@ColinSquire-fj6jt]

Thanks for another great show! I've owned a 2005 MINI Cooper R50 and 1974 Austin Classic Mini and now i just own a 2011 MINI Cooper R56S turbo! i have loved them all! fyi: I do own my dad's old 1973 Datsun 240Z Bob Sharp Racing prepared race car that I'm rebuilding for vintage racing. Please keep up the great work! Moog, great to hear that you are hosting Top Gear Australia!!

[@mikeMBW]

Sold my VW Amarok recently through Trademe, a New Zealand website which is similar in ways to eBay. Within 24 hours of listing the vehicle, I had several scammers contact me who wanted to inspect the car. After they asked basic questions, they then demanded I pay for an online vehicle history check from a dodgy website based in India. The website required a VIN number, and claimed to generate a report after entering credit card details. Yeah...nah. Would love to see a video that exposes car parts scammers. The kind that pretend to have parts for sale...but don't. And those who clone Facebook pages of legitimate companies, then use photos from other countries of stock / parts.

[@_Zekken]

I was selling a car last year and had the same thing, trademe and facebook marketplace. Multiple different people with the exact same copy paste message. Didnt even click the link, told the first couple to fuck off and then just ignored the rest

[@mikeMBW]

@@_Zekken Yeah that sounds familiar. One of the scammers got aggressive in their demands. I gave them the same answer as you did.

[@Up2kak]

Wicked video. Glad it all came out ok. Had someone try scam me before. Good to know what else to look for. Great effort guys. Thanks a lot

[@sergeizhilinski]

I live in Germany. I sometimes see real ads on Facebook marketplace, but they get lost in the mass of scams. And if I try to sell something, I get scammers messages who always offer to "send money by DHL courier" 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@teddyjones8027]

Hellzz yeah guys Thank you very very much for making this video and showing people exactly what to look for with these scammer scumbags. Everyone keep yourselves and love ones safe and healthy and remember to SMILE 😊God Bless 🙏

[@Daytonafox1]

Moog listening to Rick Ashley lol. Nice one dude.

[@Soh90]

Lol years ago I sold my 2016 Kawasaki ZX6R which was worth about $8,000 for only $4,750. I even added in a motorcycle stand, spare windscreen, and extra fluids. The guy buying the bike was SUPER skeptical lol. Meanwhile I just wanted to make somebody’s day with a bike that I no longer needed. I had no intentions of getting a good price for the bike, only wanted to make a biker happy. After he got the bike home (about a 4 hour ride) he called me and the excitement in his voice genuinely made my day lol.

[@michaelgallacher4800]

Sometimes its worrh the risk. I got an Alfa romeo 159 for £300 because it had been up for two months and looked sooooo fishy. Its was a guy selling it for another guy but it was stored somwhere else. But after risking it and going to view it twice i low balled and he accepted. Been a year now and the cars faultless. Full red leather interior. Every optional extra. Been the best deal of my life so far.

[@Midori_Ringo]

The thing is though losing £300 isn't really a life changing amount if it's a scam for 99.99% of car buyers - it sucks for sure, but your credit rating isn't going to get hammered, your lifestyle isn't really going to change too much. I'd take that gamble as well. But once once you get to £5000, £10000 or even higher average joe is going to take time recovering.

[@omnibuildersnz]

man this hits home for me, 12 years ago i got scammed out of 7k which was the deposit to get it out of storage...... even provided me with legit info saying it was on the up n up haha anyway glad didnt pay whole amount but hurt bad at the time

[@MrPaulArcher]

Excited to see more Mini content on the channel! I own a classic myself and not long purchased an F55 clubman S All4 which shares the same engine as yours, will be interesting to see what you do with it.

[@blurreaper1238]

The old mini looks hilariously small next to the new one 😂

[@starfox_wr-45e93]

There was me thinking the new one didn't look as big as expected next to the old one 🤣

[@neilbathe]

Or me thinking the new Mini looked massive next to the proper one!

[@Oldschool_car_nut-oo3ox]

My Dad used to be car salesman (mind you this was a while ago but I imagine it isn't much different) and he explained to me the whole economics of the situation are different for a dealer. He explained the cars that they had were bought on what was effectively an overdraft or credit. They are paying interest on the value of their stock at regular time periods (maybe monthly, or quarterly). The longer the car stay's on their books the less profit they make on it because they're paying that interest, until you get to a point where they may start losing money. At that point it starts making sense to get rid of the car even if it they make little or no money. This was about 40 years back so it's likely to be a little different now, but I think some of the same basic principles apply. He used to say the end of the month was a good time to buy from a dealer because they would anxious to get as much money off their inventory before they had to pay interest on it, so they were more willing to do deals.

[@timvarley8589]

16:45 the interior recording really emphasises the fake interior engine noise.

[@Dnyeal]

absolutely love seeing the production value level compared to when I first started watching this channel many many years ago

[@geksii]

Always nice to get a deal from a Chinese money laundering syndicate.

[@AndrewGeierMelons]

🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔

[@smartgorilla]

Definitely a scam or pinched from another country. Still seems fishy unless that is a real genuine bloke not making very large mark ups.

[@lwghia]

Lmao right

[@smartgorilla]

@@lwghia like they said it could be ev drivers giving up the best car they ever owned. tech will move on but power cuts wont. had one a few days ago

[@lwghia]

@@smartgorilla it's a good story for sure 👍

[@GTRFREAK17]

The written off point is incredibly important - I was looking at buying a Suzuki SV650 & found the cheapest one with low mileage, turns out the guy bought it and fixed it up as a repairable write off yet found out he couldn't register it in NSW because they wont allow it while other states will.

[@01gtbdaily30]

Ironically enough I have been accused of being a scammer because I have absolutely no social media presence. I tried to sell a car and when they googled my name absolutely nothing comes up except that my relatively common last name brings up a search of a convicted hit man because obviously that person has had the most articles written about them.

[@Stratos1988]

Wade Wilson ?

[@simonwatling2203]

The size difference between the OG mini and the BMW mini is WILD!!!

[@airfreshna1]

That dealer is suspect. There is just random times the dealer lot becomes abandoned and there are no cars on site sometimes for months then cars come back.

[@gmabailey40]

prob got spooked by so much interest at once. Or wanted it gone since he did so many scams with it.

[@jonathanwright5550]

I know a couple dealers that will buy in bulk in Japan and ship bi monthly so all their cars come at once...

[@paulaus]

​@jonathanwright5550 They look like mostly imports so you could be right there

[@takeaticket]

Dude knows the economy is about to go down hill. Listen from 19:39. "Because the economy changes... sell with zero profit... before the recession comes back."

[@liamwindsor5854]

@@jonathanwright5550no you don’t

[@jjssll466]

I'm really glad you've got one of these! I have a 2014 modified F56 Cooper S manual and it's great. It's running 296 bhp and 465 NM. The only problem I've had with it is the failed engine mounts, upper and lower. The factory clutch very rarely slips although I know that won't be an issue for you!

[@AllDayBikes]

1:46 What does my man Rick Astley have to do with that haha

[@maxkoster3836]

Please give this dude a good shoutout, that all scammers be like this, would be amazing.❤😊

[@jrh1704]

@21:14 Dude on the street is for sure is rolling a joint

[@azimpetra]

Tobacco rolling is common in Australia, boxed ciggies are expensive. For the same price, you're looking at a week's worth vs 20 pack.

[@Daniel-yl8y]

Unlikely

[@kanishkCrazy]

😂😂😂😂

[@TrashHeapCustodian]

king shit tbh

[@ChromecastM8]

It's almost legal now via prescription. I roll joints in pubs and breweries these days.

[@NSPOOL]

This was very interesting and not the expected outcome. When I bought my car, it screamed scam. The seller was in Singapore, car had debt listed and I met his "brother in law" for the test drive. ended up buying it, because the owner cleared the debt, then I picked the car key up from a Midas service centre, and got mailed the spare 3 weeks later... it all worked out.

[@stevemartegani]

Gotta love the KZbin scammer bots replying to a video about internet scams...

[@samuraiharris5980]

here in the US, the only problem with CarFax is that it only reports damage that was reported to the insurance company. If you ding up a car, have Uncle Elmer fix it in the barn and then trade the thing fast to get rid of, you have no idea it's been damaged. If the dealer where it was traded realizes the car has been hit and repaired, they generally send it to auction where it goes to second or third-tier dealers (the dreaded 'buy here-pay here' lots) where someone gets stuck with it. Also, in some states here, cars can be write-offs (we call them totaled) and still be re-registered. In my home state of New York, if you buy a car that has been written off by an insurer, it is an expensive ordeal to make the car road-legal again.

[@MySpeed12]

22:10 did we just get rick rolled?! Moog! 😅

[@Sneakiesthawk]

Loved the ramped up production quality of the video

[@flintstoneracing6430]

That’s the best car you ever brought

[@TheMegalodonGaming]

As someone who used to work the dealership life i know that dealership didn't own the car. So if it sits on the lot for too long the interest they pay on the loan starts costing them money instead. Thats when they sell the car at the cost of their loan so they can stop paying for it.

[@STAG162]

29:04 you got Mini... and now Maxi.

[@markswinhoe8252]

We call them a Bigi

[@Baldy.TheOnlyOne]

1:45 Dayum, the video just started, and we're already getting Rick Rolled during a public service announcement - didn't expect that! 🤪 But still good on you guys for bringing attention to this subject. Greetings from Germany.

[@cinobro6393]

I know this joint! Always used to go past it on the way to the city and was certain they had to be laundering money or selling stolen rebirthed cars. The whole thing was so sus!

[@theliltibby]

The worst part is this guy is so nice and honest but so many of these small dealers are scammy and sketchy which stops people from trusting honest owners like that

[@pyschedcodeh916]

Bought a car from that dealership a few weeks ago i was shitting myself at the start of the video 😂

[@IN_ZANE_]

Was it also an amazing, massively cheaper than anywhere else kind of deal?

[@smulderphotography2145]

What a rollercoaster 🤣 I’m glad you still posted the video regardless of the result