We try janky methods for repairing a timing belt

[@herksku9051]

this is like a poor mans VVT, except the timing changes based on luck rather than RPM

[@Redfabco]

So like a vvt with a dirty oil screen

[@manitoba-op4jx]

vvt but it's only less likely to destroy your top end

[@DemoTheDumDum]

​​@@manitoba-op4jx Alot of 8 valve engines are built in a way that pistons cant give a kiss to the valves (non interference engine). For example older opel 8valves 2.0l and such same with fords 2.0/1.6l 8valve ohc engines

[@ZeroForce96]

@@DemoTheDumDum90’s Suzuki 4cyl engines (G13BA, G16) (Swift, Baleno, Vitara etc.) are another great example. Not only are those old 8 valve single point injection engines easy and cheap to repair when something does break, they were very resistant to failing in the first place. I also had a Honda Accord with a 2.0 sohc at one point, I’m not 100% sure if it was non-interference but I used to live very close to a highway on-ramp and immediately give it hell every night to reach its top speed (210km/h) before the next off-ramp which I had to take to get to work. It usually barely warmed up to operating temperature before I arrived at the company parking lot lmao. Those 90’s Japanese engine were bulletproof man.

[@lukebrommage2420]

Goated comment 👌🏻

[@AriaSerious97]

I like that the crew was involved, would like to see more like this.

[@anthonynorris7736]

Non-Interference engines for the win!

[@rcsibiu]

the best automotive content, russians are really insane

[@MarcusSandoval-kx2th]

Yes they are and Ukraine is about to find out 💣💥🚀

[@jacks2627]

Still waiting…

[@dwrgdeh9996]

​@@MarcusSandoval-kx2thyeah they will find what any international guarantees are worth

[@Anonymous-ze4sx]

I wouldn’t say insane I’d say just free of fucks to give

[@blackterminal]

@@MarcusSandoval-kx2th Putler is a monster.

[@bullbutter9699]

I have used an oil soaked leather belt piece for a "Crank Bearing" on a School Bus. Drove 30 miles to the Shop with it,

[@TheHungrySlug]

that was also a youtube short video of exactly that, oil soaked leather crank bearing.

[@vadim6385]

So that's where Ford/Stellantis/Honda got the idiotic idea of oil dipped timing belts

[@Schroedimoto]

Try it with a sewing machine and a nylon thread and sew several times lengthwise along the timing belt (at least 20cm on each end)

[@TorquilBletchleySmythe]

Use another broken belt as a patch section to ensure all the teeth are good and cut both the old belt and the patch at a ramp angle to ensure plenty of surface area to join. When the belt has the necessary length and correct number of teeth, glue the replacement section in with industrial rubber tyre patch glue, the stuff you need to heat to set. Clamp it and heat it until the new section is bonded to the old belt and install. If done correctly, this should work.

[@MrSilver708]

I love these videos...wish my shop teacher was like this! Btw I learned also that Ladas have non interference engines in them. Good to know comrade 💂‍♂️💂‍♀️

[@armandomendoza3167]

Easiest repair solution. Have a spare new belt in your car.

[@MarcusSandoval-kx2th]

That don't make for fun cinrre 😂

[@DitzyClouds]

sadly wont work on 90% of modern cars. all non interference engines.

[@MarcusSandoval-kx2th]

@DitzyClouds I'm confused..how can a broken belt not cause valves to slam into pistons???

[@Boostf83]

@@MarcusSandoval-kx2thdepends on what engine you’re talking about, some are interference and some are non-interference I think the names explain themselves

[@AsswipeGarage]

What if it's an "interference" engine? Bring a spare head and head gasket with you?

[@Louie-wq8uq]

sew it at the break and further up each side of the break and use long piece of electrical heat shrink on this, heat shrink tubing conforms to what it shrinks on and has glue paste inside of it and bonds tightly!

[@Micheal1075]

I needed this last week when my timing belt snapped. Always next time…😔

[@volvo09]

When I was 18 I had the timing belt cover off my engine, and when I opened the hood before a trip I noticed a decent tear in the belt (I don't know what caused it, maybe a stone?) So I decided to rev the engine up to see if it would survive the 30 mile trip to see my girlfriend... Nope, it snapped in my driveway. It was a non interfere engine which is why I was going to drive on it, I just didn't want to get stranded and need a tow.

[@MarcusSandoval-kx2th]

Did it suck ????

[@shaneeslick]

🤨Seems to me you needed a new timing belt more than you needed this video

[@Micheal1075]

@@MarcusSandoval-kx2th It did suck. It’s an interference engine but I got extremely lucky and none of the valves were touched.

[@SoNEWMEX575]

I don’t like automotive anything but I really like this channel. I also want to work for garage 54 but I know nothing of automobiles and don’t speak Russian.😅

[@WheelOpinions]

Great experiment. You guys are always entertaining to watch. Stay safe during these troubled times 🇬🇧

[@simon8864]

These guys are hilarious 😂 Seriously though, makes you realise how strong and durable timing belts are.

[@screwdajuice]

I love this channel, please never change

[@kentworch]

I've fixed something like this, but I'm a little drunk to talk about it right now. I obviously took my non interference engine apart and fixed it in my front yard, but it still runs just fine. Japanese motors are awesome. I wish American quality actually meant something these days. The old Fords and Chevrolets were actually really good once upon a time, but I'd say Toyotas are the best these days.

[@thedoctor2102]

Try using a sanding belt and some liquid nails and stainless steel pop rivets to hold the belt together

[@einherzfurlandwirte8113]

It could work with the nylon cord if it is not only worked into the belt at the breaking point, but over a longer piece.

[@aware2action]

A die made of pewter(to support top and bottom), couple of fibreglass(kevlar 🤔) fabric pieces. One on bottom and one on top. Vulcanize everything under pressure and temperature, should be a better fix.❤👍

[@ricktroxell6448]

The one that was glued really amazed me i thought the wired one would actually work

[@jlucasound]

Good thing it's Non interference!! 🤣😂 Otherwise you would have to have a different engine for each belt! 😉✌👍

[@nigelsummers5238]

I've owned, and run, a '96 Libra 1.3S since '99 and didn't know the Engine could withstand a cambelt failure ( non-conflict = rare?!), and about 9 years ago my Lada/VAZ had a water-pump bearing failure about 200miles from home. After removing the cover and checking I decided to risk running the engine virtually on tickover to get back; it did. I was constantly expecting the belt to break or slip off and though it was extremely frayed along one edge it stayed put. Had I known it was a 'non-conflict' head I wouldn't have found the whole experience so nerve-wracking. Now I know better; and it taught me a lesson, at the time, about the water-pump which I consider the only real weakpoint on the Engine . I run on LPG so the rev limiter (fuel) no longer has effect and the Engine runs more like a motorcycle in terms of revs so...if you are reading this: maybe a water-pumpless conversion would be a good idea; I've been thinking about it, and changing the alternator ratio to suit. The car is very rare here in England but parts are still available easily. Thankyou for your pleasant content and I have subscribed. Cheers

[@38911bytefree]

Love the ideas you come with !!!!. Great job !!!!

[@johnjay5143]

I was surprised when it actually ran . All the tension created from the cam and valve activity dragging when the crank starts turning the engine over puts a hell of a strain on a belt . Actually I thought none of them would make one rpm . lol Good work guys . :)

[@jimb4090]

Nylon fishing line, minimum 40 lb, with alternate length stitch, one short one long. 3 inch then 1.5 inch then 3, etc. Keep the spacing tight across the entire width. Used to use this method on lathe belts made from used belts cut off cars or trucks. Would last a couple of years.

[@gazzer883]

Great fin video yet again thank you and please take care of yourselves in these terrible times, ❤

[@knobsdialsandbuttons]

This is a belter of a video 👍

[@Crankycruiser]

Under appreciated comment ! 😂

[@G.and.DJackson]

Please do a video of different materials that could be used as engine gaskets. My Great Grandfather would use cardboard from cereal boxes for his own car. He was a mechanic his whole life, aircraft mechanic in ww2, and worked for GM all the time i was able to know him. I was very young when he passed, so I dont know how many times he had to replace the gaskets, but as far as I know they lasted enough to consider it to be worth it.

[@christianfritz6333]

I fixed a water pump belt with a zip tie once, got me out of a pickle.

[@grugbug4313]

Solid! Top KEK! Peace be with you.

[@finnenjr]

take 2 belts split them outer / inner in middle. prepare surfaces with sandpaper, set inside belt opening 180 degrees from outer belt opening. glue them together with tire glue.

[@jamiewood4280]

The Lada Samara is a well engineered car. It still tries to run with a stretched belt and doesn't break.

[@vadim6385]

That's just a non-interference engine

[@GarrisonsMadHouse]

Replacing the pulley and adding sprockets and a chain

[@vincentrobinette1507]

I'm really glad this isn't an "interference" engine. I just had a horrible mental image of a valve striking a piston, destroying the cylinder head!

[@shinjiiiiiiiiii]

honda moment

[@davidhsloan8732]

heat the ends up and fuse together cut the ends square first may have to add a piece depending

[@R3cKi7]

all motors should be made interference free 👌

[@AudioGardenSlave123]

It looks like a miracle that good belts last as long as they do.

[@jonathanshaw8868]

Put the belt on a complimentary diameter, degrease and sand the exterior, coat with adhesive then wrap the whole outside diameter with the nylon fibres, then put a backing onto the entire diameter.

[@spaffyjimble2317]

I love that this channel is a post-soviet garbage time. Truly a gem

[@Bryce-z9v]

Those belts are strong alright. I had a cam shaft seize on a mitsubishi diesel. The car was manual and carried on. The belt managed to shear off the 14mm cam wheel bolt. The belt looked undamaged, I replaced it anyway. These engines sacrifice the rockers rather than bend valves 🙂

[@thedarkknight1971]

One funny belt fix I heard once was for the ANCILLARY/ALTERNATOR BELT ONLY - Ladies nylon stockings! 🤣🤣🤣

[@K31TH3R]

That'll absolutely work, for a surprisingly long time, and it can and will get you home. Won't do a thing for a timing belt though.

[@JonathanTamm]

works well i did that for the 10 km trip home when the alternator bearings seized and the fan belt broke put the stockings around the crank and water pump fan pully. I put new bearings in the alternator the next day at work and fitted it and a new belt that night. the next day and weekend drove 1,000km and when back home noticed the stocking was under the v belt still intact. Surprised it lasted that long I just cut it and pulled it off while rotating the engine it was still in good condition.

[@MrBean5268]

Used my GFs pantihose for a power steering belt on my 76 Chevy pickup. Got us to our date and home after. Even went to 3 parts stores for a replacement belt the next morning.

[@teardowndan5364]

The original belt is a few wires making multiple laps around the belt, not going to match that aggregate tensile strength with any sort of patch-up job. In most places I remember seeing belts made by splicing the two ends together, the belt is cut at an angle so load gradually transfers across the splice. You may have better luck taking two belts, cutting them in half +10 teeth with the ends cut at an angle to overlap those five extra teeth at each end. That also gives you about twice as much space to try tying both sides together with string, tape or whatever else.

[@OutofluckpikerMJK]

I would try some 2-4 pieces of long somewhat flexible steel wire wound around rhe outside of the belt welded together on the meeting ends and then some glue to hold it in place. No stretch and a fixed belt length could work, maybe.

[@pgmurray76]

The 0.8mm welding wire reminds me of the attachements of Sumitomo (and others) warehouse conveyor belts. 1m wide.

[@knifethrower9733]

Great video, i think ive tried all these ideas when I was 17 and I knew there's no way to repair belts 😂

[@living.sideways]

try a bike tire tube repair kit. but use some old timing/accesory belt wires to glue it together.

[@rhawastrator]

I gave exact reaction to the belt that has been fixed with duct tape :) Nice one :D

[@generovinsky7228]

get a new one and carry a spare. LOL. Love garage 54 here in NJ USA

[@computerscience7362]

I think When Timing belt fails with the engine running, usually it causes catastrophic failure and damage to engine parts like pistons and valves. So this solution may work only if the engine is still intact

[@davidjernigan8161]

Probably need to try the metal lacing like used on conveyor belts.

[@vincentrobinette1507]

The welding wire was actually that attempt. (didn't work)

[@MarkKiss-qv6gx]

Use nylon strings but stitch much more alongside. Go trough at least 5 teeth each direction. And rubber glue on top.

[@ardennielsen3761]

i would think 1/16th inch aircraft cable, wrap it around 3 times and on the third go around the long loose end gets woven in and out of the three wrap around strands... ending in the two ends being cable soldered, fitted around the outside of the belt appropriately, tied to the belt with very thin Kevlar string using a very thin "1/64 inch" needle between each belt rib and epoxied with RTV in a vacuum chamber to remove air bubbles. can do that with belts tires etc, just adding to a existing item.

[@ardennielsen3761]

burning tires to get the steel cable wire... to then... do that.

[@richardpalko8062]

Interesting video was entertaining and educational .

[@UpVoltageOverclocking]

i think if u stiched it again but did a longer stich with something on the backside of the belt that gets stiched into it

[@systemsrenegade9888]

The reason it stopped is because if one tooth is missing on the belt it changes the timing with every revolution of the motor therefore putting the timing out of alignment .

[@Altacat]

.. any chance you guys could buy up the tooling for Lada and produce cars !! : ) ...they look like late 1970's bmw 5's ....Thanks for all the fun !!! : )

[@idrisddraig2]

The older shape ones are Fiat 124's made under licence. They were made in many countries not just Russia/USSR

[@Altacat]

@idrisddraig2 : )

[@illwill915]

idk if you read these, but you should do the same type of video for a cvt transmissions like the ones in nissan altima. since there’s no cheap dealership fixes for a cvt

[@robertwest3093]

This gives janky a whole new meaning.

[@Save-Your-Sanity]

That welding wire brings back bad memories, An old friend of mine was welding and he snipped the wire off while it was still red hot and it fell in my work boot sticking to my ankle, 😂

[@vx-iidu]

💀

[@tobendermungo8497]

Bread 👍

[@MarcusSandoval-kx2th]

And circuses 🤡

[@markusb2743]

Just incase you don't know, usually when your timing belt break, your engine also break BADLY. If your lucky that your engine did not self destruct, then a repaired timing belt won't last longer than 10 seconds, that belt is under serious stress. Don't try that at home or on the side of 5he road.

[@paappraiser]

try kevlar string melted into the rubber similar to plastic welding.

[@R3LLIK24]

Ultra sonically weld the belt back together

[@alisteeaiken7667]

I remember a garage mechanic who used timing belts to tow cars around his garage

[@amyhergest]

The first thing to consider is whether the car has a non-interference engine - otherwise it doesn't matter what solution you have, a snapped belt means major surgery. I know, because a belt snapped on me once x

[@MikeBradburn-q4h]

Bridge the break with a 6 inch peace of belt with them back to back and remove the teeth from the bridge piece. Stitch across the whole bridge piece with thin nylon thread in the thinnest part of the belt. Lots of stitching the more the better. Don't stitch where the teeth are.

[@MikeBradburn-q4h]

Or you can carry a extra belt with you on your trip.

[@mrw1160]

Nothing stops these guys. O_o

[@ogerwon1]

Fix the broken timing belt with another broken timing belt timing belt... glue them so the breaks are on opposite sides, and "back-to-back", so one belt goes around with the teeth sticking out. and then add a couple of stitches between every 5th tooth, with the salvaged belt fibers, for the entire length of the belt. might have to shave the teeth off the outer belt to make it thin enough to fit.

[@jwalster9412]

Looks like you guys have reached a high popularity status, you're getting _those_ bots now.

[@RiceCakeWtf]

Your comment always brings such joy and love to my heart, thank you very much for comment! 📀🤸‍🐴 😂🍒🥿

[@bastiaan7777777]

@@RiceCakeWtf Some people actually upvote those...

[@randyjones7001]

I wonder how nylon stockings would work if incorporated into the repair?

[@MarcusSandoval-kx2th]

Filthy mind 😂

[@randyjones7001]

@MarcusSandoval-kx2th That's a problem I have... LOL!

[@MarcusSandoval-kx2th]

@randyjones7001 sexy 👙 👠 solution

[@jontebakhjul.aka.jkstuntman]

Try different methods of replacing the belt with other materials or objects like normal leather belt and heavy rubber band inertube etc tow belt and so on

[@neomateo944]

How about using a second broken timing belt. Remove the teeth then glue/vulcanise back to back over broken belt? If cleaned well and glue holds it might just work.

[@shaneeslick]

G'day Garage54 & BMI, 🤔So it seems the best way to "repair" a Timing Belt is to use a new one that is the right spec for your engine

[@EduardoAguirre-pj3cr]

Notch rectangular piece of opposed side. 10 mm x 50mm. And. Graft into broken area with stitches?

[@jeromevdb2956]

Excellent ideas, as always! Despite it didn't really worked 😂

[@anibalbabilonia1867]

👋🤣👍Nice try boys! Maybe better luck next time! That was pretty good though!

[@milolll]

Please try to mod an interference-engine to non-interference( mod the piston head).

[@jimrealperson4529]

Not going outside the shop must be the Siberian winter is cold.No snow yet here in Sierra Nevada foothills in California,USA.Started to freeze this week.Elevation 3000' near Yosemite national park.I hate snow.

[@alexdro4389]

В Новосибирске −3°C

[@tomas3861]

This engine really looks like 1.2 fiat engine, same timing belt pulleys configuration

[@zf8496]

because it is! the car is based on 2nd gen Ritmo! but with mods.

[@golfguy25]

I believe it's based on a Fiat engine. It looks extremely easy to work on

[@tooltime9260]

The trouble with timing belts isn't the belts, it's the camshaft designs with so much resistance. Camshafts can work with very little resistance if their designs were improved. In our school class, we designed a shaft that offered very little resistance and it worked. What we could not do was alter the lift and deactivation available on modern variable designs. Even so, better designs with less resistance ought to be sought out. The electric and air designs are obviously in the right direction. A further problem is that too many engines have too many sharp bends and that heats up the belt way too fast. Back in the late 80s, Ford's Escort 1.9 had a terrible design that ate belts on a regular basis. Add that in interference engines and that's a car you don't want to buy. (Listening VW?) Other designs with somewhat straight paths lasted a long time.

[@twocvbloke]

Best fix is to replace them in a timely manner before they go and smash your valves to bits (in an interference engine of course, non-interference engines tend to not care)... :P

[@semaicripot2816]

Next, can you make 3 cylinder 180° crank with firing 1-2 180°, 2-3 180°, 3-1 360°.

[@RayleneCawood]

Try "Janky method" of restoring an engine: Research: Argonne National Labs Boric Acid in oil lubricant Dissolve Boric Acid/Oxide (NOT Borax!!!) in a cup of boiling water till there's more powder than will dissolve in the cup. (keep it hot) Immediately add the mixture to an old, worn, smokey but otherwise fine engine, undissolved powder and all. The engine should be warmed up and the oil full to the top line. Drive off immediately, taking it easy as this emulsion will thin the oil. You'll feel this "janky" mixture kick in after around 10 km. (really old engine with low oil pressure: Use thicker oil like diesel oil to add the mixture to) This stuff will loosen all the sludge in the engine, so you need to change the oil and filter soon after. You don't need to add more mixture; it'll last for ~100 000 km, but you can add a tiny bit if you like.

[@TiborRoussou]

Good luck doing this with an interference engine. Soon as the belt breaks you have bent valves.

[@graemew7001]

I came to this video thinking the exact same thing, after all a timing belt isn't like an aux belt, it's not just a fit randomly to the pulleys item and go.

[@rotorblade9508]

@@graemew7001😂 obviously it’s just for fun, these belts are replaced well before they fail

[@TiborRoussou]

@@rotorblade9508 not always! My lady had her belt fail before it was due to be changed. It happened a few years back on her PT Loser; bent all the valves!

[@20thcenturygamer22]

How many engines don't get wrecked from a snapped timing belt?

[@johnfox4376]

@TiborRoussou How old was the belt? Most are unaware that time is a factor as well, so a belt can be in need of replacement due to age long before the mileage had been reached.

[@TheSlassh]

You should try tire vulcanizer.

[@elviobeno5087]

Hey friends, can u please use V belt and poly V belt as a timming belt, and see if it will skip, thank you 🙃

[@dimitar4y]

vlad proves why he's the boss :D

[@stevenoe6395]

Lol!!!!! Good one!!!!

[@iongheorghe580]

I would like to see how long can an engine run with a serpentine belt instead of a classic timing one

[@28andfun]

Tape will be useless the heat will loosen it. Only ones that will work are the threaded ones

[@1FeistyKitty]

seems like there should be a way to make a belt that will last a few 100k --- why not a steel belt around the rubber --- it works for tires --- this was a fun episode making a game out of it --- let's do a competition for who can design the best gun hide-away.

[@Nordic_Mechanic]

ok so we fix the belt but what about the bent valves?

[@Waccoon]

I don't care if it was doomed to failure. I was cheering for Cable Tie Guy to the very end.

[@dredaboss505]

When I was a Youngster a friend of mine whose dad was a mechanic they always carried a pair of women's nylon pantyhose in their truck they always said that it would would be able to replace the belt if it broke just enough to get you to your next destination

[@Audimad52]

Why not carry a spare belt..haha

[@billmyke746]

This was fun!

[@rexracer7192]

Replace the belt with a gear drive setup, it's not a new design, but it'll sound cool...

[@cousinjohncarstuff4568]

Heat the belt so it melts together? Worth a try.............

[@Gerald-pu9qq]

Was thinking....have you ever thought of trying to replace timing chain with worm and wheel? In theory this should be more reliable and quiter

[@RennieAsh]

You'd think the best option is to sew it together given it's fiber belt impregnated

[@86Rommi]

How much weight you can lift with timing pelt ??