We Uncovered the Corporations Bringing Back Child Labor in America | Asmongold Reacts

[@jakevandee]

They tried this is Australia. Lowering age for forklift license. The public response was 'may as well lower the drinking age so the kids can get a beer after a hard day's work'

[@AtsukamiMusic]

Minimum drinking age only applies for licensed premises, 'kids' can already get a beer after a hard days work at home.

[@malbasedvalentine3210]

That’s such an immature response. There’s a purpose to be made here, and using alcohol as a counter argument is incredibly ridiculous. Even as an adult alcohol turns them into children. Its obvious alcohol is out of the question in all cases, never for adults on the job.

[@Taygon45]

@@malbasedvalentine3210 I don't think so, when you boil it down. It's all rational decision making. And that's the part of the brain that isn't yet developed for a child. It's in the video where it isn't developed until the mid 20s.

[@AceHighAlbion]

@@malbasedvalentine3210 Lemme guess your American?

[@BsetXOXO]

@@malbasedvalentine3210 makes perfect sense to an Aussie. Drinking a few beers after a labor job is a norm here. Would be weird if you couldn't go and get a pub meal and drink after working a manual labor job. It's sort of like Australian identity.

[@dairallan]

Grades plummetting after 20 hours a week is not a problem. Its a feature. No GED, no ability to demand higher wages as adults. These corps can keep paying them pennies their whole damn lives.

[@Officialmryuck]

What's even crazier is the kobalt mines...

[@dairallan]

@@boomerwow8482 I have a little flag there, Im not American. Whatever you wanna call it, Diploma or Graduation, if they dont get it then corps get a new supply of low paid wage slaves.

[@DP-fq7iy]

If you're staying at that job, it's not just their fault.

[@GiRR007]

That sounds like a them problem. If they are complacent enough to wanna stay in that position their whole lives then theres nothing else to be done for them.

[@postnutclarity7382]

​@@boomerwow8482😢😮😮😢😮😢

[@fightingblind]

Don't worry... they'll still want 5 years experience for entry level jobs...

[@anthonydallarosa8314]

😂well played

[@aureliusmarcusantoninus3441]

@@anthonydallarosa8314 we're gonna have to fight against 13 year olds for internships

[@Fourside__]

good thing the underage work experience you get wont count towards your job experience time later

[@Krysnha]

Yes minimum, and will compete with hundres of the, to win nothing, they they grow up, ignorant i wander if the law contemplate a good salary and posibility for study and permanent job, what am i talking they will hired the child and when he is about to be 18 and become a legal adult and pay a better salary they will kick him out and bring another child, the kid now has less study experience in a profession that he will have to continue to do, wonderful, as a lawyer if the law contemplate give the child not dangerous job and work sort of an aprentice thing, and protect him not to be kick out the moment he become 18 i agree, i now it wont happen

[@Krysnha]

@@Fourside__ Indeed, it wont count, and the child will get out, with less education and beleiving he deserve to work as a slave

[@samaeltheundying]

I remember getting a contract on a Hemp farm and having to remove literally tons of cannabis covered in mold. The next day I came back, the owner had a bunch of high school kids in a sealed freight container grinding up the moldy product without masks. It was covered in pesticides that caused rashes and fungicides that burned our lungs. This was a Future Farmers of America contract, meaning the kids weren't even paid. This wasn't in another country, this was in Colorado in 2017.

[@treanttrooper6349]

Was it Hemp or Cannabis, cus they are different plants

[@Aelethil]

I swear people really could do to pick up the notion of "if everyone just stopped paying their taxes at once" We could take this shit back within a month. But no we stay willingly ignorant and let them sell us for what. 4k?

[@marcag9810]

​@@Aelethil you're so close to getting it and yet so far

[@Aelethil]

@@marcag9810 Keep tellin yourself that.

[@marcag9810]

@@Aelethil NPC response, it doesn't even make sense in this context.

[@christinaify]

Parents having to force their children into the workforce because businesses refused to provide a livable wage is exactly what made us pass a lot of these laws in the first place. Now we’re going to roll them back because there’s a labor shortage in underpaying jobs.

[@thevoicestoldmetoagain4627]

Its only getting worse from here. Big business has too strong a grip on the world.

[@heyhoe168]

@@thevoicestoldmetoagain4627 Yes. Monopolies strip capitalism from any market-driven benefits.

[@Theydas]

Trump is bad mkaaay?

[@TheIrishMugFug]

Businesses pay what they can pay. "Living wage" has increased astronomically in the last century thanks to Democrat policy. Let's abolish income tax maybe instead so you have more money to spend. Duhh

[@RyanStarcraftProtoss]

Define livable wage lol

[@N0wheretobefound]

"Okay men, people don't wanna work for us, what do we do? Give people better working conditions and wages??? THATS CRAZY SPEAK! BRING BACK THE CHILDREN!!!"

[@darkdeath5550]

At a certain point as a parent, do u just beat the fuck outta the people trying to scam your kids into a coal mine, meat packing, or construction?

[@N0wheretobefound]

@@SoulAtParadise Ik... And the part with the people from a third world country being modern slaves... It hit hard for me because they hired a bunch of them where I work... Like I don't care if they are from a third word coutry, they should be paid an adequete wage as well.. Its just so scummy

[@Beezer1742]

@@SoulAtParadise no they can’t

[@joaogarcia9488]

We are going to another Dark Age.... no more mmo´s.

[@sik3xploit]

@@N0wheretobefound Well... you should care that they are, because illegal aliens is a big economic problem.

[@Jackie89000]

Fining a mega corporation for breaking laws would be like Blizzard fining someone 300g for using a bot to make 3mil gold.

[@NomDatBass]

​​​@@ayoCCabsolutely have to disagree there. I remember hearing about one of the guys at Enron openly stating something along the lines of "No matter what rules Washington comes up with, (they) have plenty of smart people who will find a way to make money", which is an attitude all too many companies seem to have. You need them to either full-on get arrested or go bankrupt without a bailout for people like that to stop, and frankly the fines would need to be exponentially higher for these fines to be anything more than essentially a simple business expense.

[@phosgene87]

for corporations breaking the law is just an operational expense

[@NomDatBass]

@@phosgene87 exactly!

[@calimantis]

Fines are just the cost of doing business when you're a megacorp or a billionaire

[@battlecruiserna]

The rough draft should be something like this. whenever these companies get caught they should be fined on two criteria: 1. if these children were adults, what wages would they have been paid for the amount of work they do a day as well as how long they have worked, each instance should be a fine equating this amount. 2. The company will be fined an amount based on how much they have gross profited during this time relative to the ratio broken down to percent of children/adults working there. In other words, if 30% of a company's workers are children, they lose 30% of their gross profit for the period of time this was determined to have happened, If the company is private and unable to pay, the owner will be arrested with a mandatory minimum of 1 year in maximum security prison and company assets will be liquidated. LLC will not protect a private business owner in this case. if the company is public and unable to pay, and if public, the ceo will be arrested or extradited to the united states to be arrested, and the fine will be distributed evenly to the major shareholders who will either pay or also face arrest/extradition to the united states to be arrested, and in the meantime the business will not be allowed to operate within the united states until the fine is paid in full, but will also be federally required to continue paying the salaries of their workers during the shutdown. I call this a "fuck around and find out" law The fine money will go towards social services for unemployment job training as well as snap/tanf, as well as funding an agency that performs surveillance and investigation on companies for child labor. can be new agency or existing agency, ideally moving away from taxpayer burden. If country refuses to extradite to us, we can just forcefully take them out of that country and throw them in jail until they pay. Those countries will disagree but they wont do shit against the strongest military and strongest nuclear power.

[@maviardiv1749]

Im an old man that enjoys Asmon content. its good to see him bring awareness to corporate greed tightening its grip over the nation since the Reagan era.

[@vashe9]

Everyone knows that, even non Americans. In USA you can litteraly pay a fee to avoid prison or even a trial

[@Elrog3]

So.. corporations weren't greedy before Reagan? Ever heard the name Carnegie? Or Rockefeller? Or Ford?

[@casscody3488]

@@Elrog3 "Tightening its grip". That implies there was a grip beforehand. He never said or implied that there wasn't. Context clues, my guy

[@Elrog3]

@@casscody3488 Not necessarily. But fair point that it leaves the possibility open that there was a grip beforehand.

[@lunamiya1689]

But I highly doubt that kids today will want to work at construction yard, kids are so into get rich schemes now and got scammed for his 40 dollar weekly allowance.

[@youreyesarebleeding1368]

I worked at a McDonald's in high school and it was straight up slavery. They broke labor laws daily, but being a kid I was just happy because I thought I was making bank (8.50/hr was my pay at the end). I was getting overtime every week, got promoted, and so on... But eventually it wore me down, destroyed my health, and killed all of my motivation and sapped my energy to do anything else. My grades plummeted. I was working so late that the time between me getting off and going to school the next morning was

[@GruntoSkunko]

Sounds like you got a lot of food to eat though LOL

[@youreyesarebleeding1368]

@@GruntoSkunko hell yeah i did lmao. Part of the problem was that I didn't have that much time to eat anything else. It was really bad for me and i quit eating fast food now but, when you make your own fast food working at a restaurant, its in a whole different league compared to what you can buy

[@walls_of_skulls6061]

That sounds awful I’m glad you’re starting to get better. I know you can do it! Graduate and get a job you can live with

[@Crocos1]

​@@youreyesarebleeding1368I think it was your decision that you decided to work at McD that was your downfall. I straight up quit working there after 2 weeks cause I got hired at Home Depot instead.

[@Wikkuska]

If I remember correctly about the instant stop circular saw, the saw gets destroyed as a side-effect by the break. So in order to save a finger, you have to buy a new circular saw and some companies wouldn't like that.

[@symposes]

You're probably thinking if Sawstop. The brake jams a block of aluminum into the blade. You just replace the block and the blade.

[@Wikkuska]

@@symposes ah I see, then it's not as bad as I remember.

[@felixmustermann790]

depending on the model the manhours to fix em can be costly, newers models not so much but older ones certainlycan have quite a hassle sometimes in deconstructing and putting it back together

[@hademers2]

​@@felixmustermann790Reattaching a finger is more expensive. Anyway for the sake of showing some humanity this shouldn't even be a factor.

[@sirkana]

@@hademers2 But here's the thing buddy, they (company higher ups) don't see you as human, they see you as a disposable drone, like a worker ant, who not only can be, but should be replaced the instant you are not as profitable.

[@ImPlague]

From my perspective. When i was 13 and 14 i did roofing/drywall construction. When i was 16 i tried to find an actually job with paychecks and all i could do was fast food. I grew up in a very poor family and wanted a way to make my own money so id been all for it. But now i got kids and i 100% do not want them doing the shit i used to do on the side etc

[@Ultrajamz]

No kid should be forced into work, but the chance to make some money before being booted into the world can be nice.

[@darkdeath5550]

Yeah, it's a case of, "I did this so you didn't have to,"

[@DadsCigaretteRun]

@@Ultrajamz I’m not for “forced” but I 100% support letting kids have jobs at 14.

[@joshiepooh]

"Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times." You're advocating for the latter.

[@notabot2351]

@@Ultrajamz I agree, but I'd say we already have that. You can do limited work with a permit at ~15 in most places, even earlier in the entertainment industry(although that's another can of worms). The problem is, the corporate fuckwits supporting this are drooling at the idea of a legal, full-time kiddie work force they can toss into whatever dangerous occupation they can imagine.

[@miratodc]

Machines were gonna take our jobs... no, its children. What a world.

[@Yggdrasill8]

Machines will still take our jobs, and children

[@Echo-gp6re]

@@Yggdrasill8 oh yeah, the machines in the meatpacking plants are going to take a lot of children.

[@2Laze]

In Canada you can become an apprentice in the trades at 16 through a school program and be able to have your Journeyman certificate by 20 which is actually really great money. It beats them working at Mcdonalds or retail stores & sets them up better than most people in their mid 30s.

[@Cimo8]

But people don't want to Learn trades in America. Every knows it better to have a job that the government can arbitrarily label as non essential.

[@canadianrabbit4838]

They also want to allow children to work at some place at 14, mostly restaurants and walmart like. Wich im fine with that.

[@OBEYTHEPYRAMID]

Canada...isn't that where people think guys like Justin Trudeau are president material ?

[@TySoVm]

These commies saying kids working for their family farm is slavery need to get a real job.

[@MrBucksfan03]

We stop that shit in America cause they don't want us to do shit ourselves

[@zentec010]

What is worse is the parents that will force their kids to get a job and loose their education because money is better than an education to them. I know from experience. After I hit 16 and could work my mother worked on convincing me to quit school and work more and I am not the only one that I have seen that happen too.

[@blackfacegaming191]

Start your own business and have your kids help you is a better option

[@AzureDrag0n1]

Well the possible upside to this is that it may increase child birth rates because children will now be a resource to use rather than be an expensive decoration. That is one of the major reasons why parents had so many kids in the past. They were useful for work and to take care of you at the end of your life.

[@ReiseLukas]

With how corrupt modern schools are, can't blame them

[@GruntoSkunko]

Money IS better than education. "Education" is a scam that puts you in perma-deabt

[@Durtas234]

@@AzureDrag0n1it’s also one of the reason why higher level education and literacy rates were so low, and remember that those people would be able to vote

[@bingomachine]

These politicians took the "the children yearn for the mines" meme seriously. 😂😂😂😂

[@Chihirolee3]

As an Iowan, I've seen the child labor situation being super exploitative. In Iowa, if you are under 20, you get a training wage of $4.35 for the first 90 days. They skirt this pay bump to federal minimum wage by either only employing kids for the summer, or the fire/rehire model in which a kid ineligible for unemployment (as it's the training time). This is SUPER common in rural areas. Also, the bill (that has passed) actually doesn't make companies civilly liable if a child gets hurt (workman's compensation is still involved). So yes, kids will get hurt and there won't be much recourse for the family. I can say nothing else but this is all legal child exploitation.

[@willostrand6555]

This is so messed up, how long has this been happening?

[@invisiblemissx]

I'm _appalled_ that this shit is going on in 2023 in the United States of America... This hypocrisy truly knows no bounds!

[@Dead_Goat]

That is not legal in the US. that is only common in europe. Training wages below federal minimum is not legal in the US>

[@Dead_Goat]

@@vladchenkov9215 He is full of shit. It is not legal to pay anyone under federal minimum age regardless of age.

[@Krugarde]

Waiters do

[@pseudosanct5253]

"the children crave the mines" all jokes aside, this is some fucking terrifying development

[@NotExplicable]

Minecraft mines

[@subhsubh3002]

You are soft

[@ohsnap6506]

i had a job at 14, full time in the summer part time through the rest, working fast food, when i was in my mid 20s and was doing some concrete work, we had a 15yr old working with us during the summer full time. I don't see a problem with working if you want, they aren't forcing kids to apply for these jobs, and even now I'm and electrician and I see dads bring there kids in during the summer to help them, from plumbing to laborer shit. Even our company has co-op students, through the school year, running wire, working off ladders, and all the hazards associated with construction

[@pseudosanct5253]

@@ohsnap6506 I did construction from 13-19 evey summer. We are taking about need vs want and companies taking advantage of the kids. You are either to close to topic to think clearly or you just ignored the point completely.

[@Spytel1]

@Alec Ryder If you read the bill, the jobs aren't extreme. And the hours are more restrictive than current active law in California.

[@adammijares9222]

The moment I heard this I knew what was up. This has nothing to do with filling worker shortage spots and everything to do with hiring cheap labor through the use of children. Why pay someone 15 to 20 dollars and hour when you can hire cheap local labor for a fraction of that. It’s insane what’s happening. It’s as if we’re all in the Twilight Zone.

[@sk8legendz]

the worker shortage was artificial. they ghosted so many applicants to apply for PPE Loans that evolved into money grants when the positions weren't filled...also now it seems it was artificially created to use as a trojan horse excuse to bring back child labor

[@GiRR007]

So you dont want kids to get job experience so they can actually learn how to be a part of society?

[@tanotive6182]

@@GiRR007 then they should be paid the same wage for the same job. Plus they will push to lower the age all the way back to the single digits. And they will push to pay them less because they are younger. I've worked as a teenager doing some odd jobs. But I got paid shit and that was shit. I've employed teenagers for part time work, but they got paid the exact same wage as an adult. Weirdly I noticed they worked harder when they got paid the same wage. They also only worked like 10-20 hours a week. I don't want to see kids working in slaughter houses or bars, I want them in apprenticeships, learning to program, learning accountancy, learning a sport, getting fit, reading books, volunteering and educating them. They need to finish school/education first before they focus on work which they will do for the rest of their lives.

[@GiRR007]

@@tanotive6182 They aren't going to be doing as good a job nor are they going to working as much so why would they get paid the same? IF they are going to be getting paid adult wages then whats the point of them even being in school? Apprenticeships are fine but expecting employers to be the ones to teach kids instead of their teachers WHILE ALSO paying the kids a wage reserved for people who actually know how to do the job doesnt make sense.

[@GiRR007]

@@Lewtable You hire them for TRAINING and cheaper labor. Not because you need the job done that badly. Thus why you pay them less than normal. Wages HAVE ALWAYS been based on qualifications.... Why wouldnt they be? If you aren't qualified for a job then you likly arent gonna have the job in the first place led alone get paid the same as someone who IS qualified for that job. Getting hired doesnt mean you actually meet the qualifications for the job. You could just be all that's left to fill a position. If pay was strictly based on hours people would be getting paid for doing absolutely the most minute amount of work without actually providing anything its a horrible idea and even still it does happen. If you time isn't worth as much as someone elses then yes your get paid less, that's how supply and demand works. You are suppose to get paid less for having less experience for a job since that means you are more than likely less qualified for that job than someone else. Just because you have the same job as someone else doesn't mean your doing it as well as they are. All of the world exist in a hierarchy, its the natural state of humans to be in hierarchy's. Hierarchy's are nessecarey. If there is an employee whos skills are so poor that there's a notable difference between him and his peers then yes that does mean that said employees should be paid less if not fired. You cant just "pay people more" money doesn't just appear out of nowhere. Not even THE REST OF SOCEITY treats teens as equals, it treats them as children. SO why should jobs treat them as equals when they aren't? No ones forcing them to work, THEY are the ones seeking employment. Its not the jobs lining up to hiring teens with no experience for the same price as someone who actually knows how to do the job.

[@solemnace]

*Dave:* "So I see these kids out here, playing baseball, doing kid things until 9 or 10 in the evening, and I think to myself... Why can't I shove them all into my factories for less than minimum wage? This is a whole un-tapped human resource we have here."

[@c1nqbl7]

Yeah basically

[@MustYouHaveAUsername]

I think kids learning the value of labor, earning their own money to buy things they want with their own money is good. It puts things into perspective and teaches both the value of things (it took me month to save up so I will be careful with it) and long term reward thinking (which is the single biggest factor of success in life, trading instant gratification for delayed bigger rewards). However, and this is critically important, over here that means tutoring younger kids, babysitting, delivering papers (yes those still exist), mowing lawns, checking tickets at the cinema, helping out waiting tables in a café etc. All of that is easy, safe labor with strictly limited hours (by law).

[@generaldissaray339]

Yea i mean i worked on my family farm from age 12 till i left for the military... I think its a good thing if they want to work but certainly not forcing kids to work.

[@Emidretrauqe]

All of that work ethic will be poisoned once they actually enter their first real job as a full-time unskilled employee.

[@clouts8973]

What's the limit of the jobs kids will be allowed to do fire fighters? Oil Rigs?

[@DeanStorm28]

I am from austria we have something thats called aprentisship where when u dont want to /cant go into higher education u go there U work 4 days 1 day school and u work like at a lokal Restaurant as seever/chef or in a hotel as receptionist, printer, caroenter, butcher, salesman, hairdresser and so on u start at 15 are finished at 18 and become a licence to open your own respecrive buissnes or work at thoes places. Its great. I did it as a chef in a hotel and i am a chef for 12 years now

[@SiverFangBlackWing]

CDawgVA talked about working as a kid in a Mcdonald's in the UK. They spilled oil straight from the frier on him, burning him, and convinced him not to tell anyone because "I was a kid and they are adults and I didn't know better so I did what they told me."

[@RS-fy9hb]

But that's not a reason to exclude minors from working less than unskilled jobs though? I like Connor as much as the next guy, but that's just where training or supervision comes in. Potentially, you just say minors can't make the food, since there's an element of risk, so they can take orders, and ring them up, where there's cameras to supervise them. Or, you could give them a pamphlet where they explain what is good behavior, and what to do in situations of peer pressure etc. There's a lot of things you could do, to mitigate this exact situation, that doesn't involve cutting all 16 year olds out from an incredible learning opportunity, and ability to build their character and future wallets. There's an insane amount of maturity and character you can gain from having the responsibility of working a job, where they learn incredible life lessons early, along with giving them their own money to think about. There's very little things that are better than giving teenagers actual jobs in developing that kid's future development and opportunities.

[@fluffy7358]

@@RS-fy9hb Since when have people on the job ever had to do JUST their job? There's always other obligations and a ton of extra stuff you are told to do as well from managers. Put kids on a workspace and unless you make an absurd amount of laws to keep them from being taken advantage of(and even if those laws do get created there will always be loopholes), there WILL be people willing to bend the rules and force the issue to squeeze out the extra dime from their labor force. Not to mention that companies have a lot of influence over government these days, give them an inch and they'll take a mile, using that crack as a starting point to try and get even worse things legalized "because it's convenient". Unpaid interns are bad enough, lets not encourage them to make children a proper industry. Not that they haven't already done so... *Looks at Troubled Teen Industry* (TTI) Not saying there isn't merits to thinking about these things, but IMO it's just not worth it.

[@gutardude2234]

I started working in my dads warehouse at 13. While not a factory, I can attest that kids have no place near real machinery or people that end up in jobs like that either at that young age.

[@barban534]

Hell yea brother give the kids all the jobs adults aren’t paid enough to do so their always in demand of new employees especially ones who can’t defend or speak out for themselves.

[@darkjesterxiii]

​@n30n They will be after a few years in the mines. Not all of them of course. But enough of them to make a good story.

[@terrillclark6486]

Well has the parent I would hope you would speak for your child. If they are not getting paid well or just leave the job altogether and just focus on school that when parenting comes into play staying involved.

[@barban534]

​@@terrillclark6486 These laws aren't meant for you, me (anymore), or any kids you are considering. As someone who worked legally as a minor, I was paid 6 bucks an hour when the minimum statewide was 8. I was working at a Kumon as a tutor, I think I looked it up at the time and the wage was around 11-13 bucks in most cases. Not one of the teens I was working with said anything and Kumon just got away with it. These laws are meant to exploit poor immigrant families whose parents work from sunrise to sundown, barely making enough to feed their kids. They're trying to form a mini India/china child workforce in the US, using these people to fuel their pockets. This is just the first step, not the last.

[@terrillclark6486]

@@barban534 o crap I didn’t he even consider that aspect your fing right thanks for the insight this is crazy.

[@Dead_Goat]

But why would kids take those jobs?

[@DaxterL]

i worked a summer job at a construction company, it was a small company that fixed roads, built small stuff around private properties, either houses and once even a kindergarten. It was hard labour, but we didn't operate any devices, we were there to do some shovel work, bring in bricks, that type of stuff. We chatted with the guys, they were cool, they look out for us. And best of all, the ceo of the company was giving us bonus payments under the desk, whilst giving us the most he could legally give us on paper, basically letting us earn just as much as a regular adult worker. It was good time. But such example is a rarity among rarities.

[@drax-thedarklord7605]

To add to just how incopetent kids can be, in my coutry, in the 4th year of secondary school, you get to work 2 days a week at a company that specializes on what you study. They distrust us so much, the employer is super careful as to what we do, so we don't fuck it up. You don't get to do anything major, even tho you have 3+ years of learning and even practical experience, with the age around 18-19. And they never let you do anything dangerous. They know how much we can fuck it up, imagine a 15 year old without any of the knowledge we have. No surprise that most of the companies who want child labor specialize in unskilled labor.

[@Danny_Deleto]

Another scary part is the potential for predators. If there are younger, more ignorant kids working more hours that gives predators more victims and more time to target them.

[@remrem-gx3ml]

this was my first thought. bars have long been a way for people to exploit young women. a bar is often a brothel or strip club in disguise not to mention how patrons can get handsy. next they will bring back orphanages so they have a nice slave market to visit so they can pick out their own slaves.

[@Maatkare]

truth. i was raped at my first job at 16 by a coworker in his 30s. this is a huge issue

[@Miolnir3]

@@Maatkare god damn

[@aguspermana8643]

if there are rapist, women especially would get raped.

[@filipbitala2624]

@@aguspermana8643Well there are, and they do

[@DjangoAV]

I’m 100% for a teen CHOOSING TO WORK for their own Money.The thing is what is happening now is these corporations are asking for legislative change only to be able to replace the working force that doesn’t want to work for their shit salary and conditions offering. It is really just so they don’t have to pay people a decent wage and/or give them decent conditions and THAT is what is unacceptable and wrong. The other thing that is wrong with all of this is; When you have the lowest paying jobs, making families having to live in such social dynamics, that will guilt the child, into having to work at such a young age, not for his own money, but to help the parents be able to feed their family and survive, it's gone too far, too far back in human rights for the kind of society we pretend to be in.

[@pyrojkl]

100% agree

[@AimbotFreak]

This assumes that children will choose to work for shit money and in garbage conditions which their parents refuse to.

[@notabot2351]

@@AimbotFreak And you assume they'll have much of a choice. This isn't just going to be wealthy or upper middle class kids who can be picky because they don't need the work anyway.

[@nyxnightmare3542]

@@AimbotFreak It's that or kill themselves because they're going to be homeless and starve anyway

[@lon8884]

​@@AimbotFreak child labor protections exist in part because poor families would just have a bunch of kids and make them work then take all of their earnings.

[@i_will_not_elaborate]

There were a lot of older gen boomers (I think some are still alive) who didn't know how to read because they were the last of the miners before technology became more advanced and even during that time, their parents never let them go to school because they essentially forced them to work in the mines. I even saw one story where a woman's grandfather ran away from home because he didn't want to live that life and it turned out for the better.

[@ofrenic]

My grandfather never learned to read properly, he was out to work around 10 or 12. You can tell he's not very educated just by talking to him. If this is the way it's going, I feel sorry for future generations.

[@MannyBrum]

They don't just endanger themselves but others. Imagine when the kid at the meat packing place turns on the machine while the guy is inside it cleaning.

[@xXReimuHakureiXx]

The US is plunging head first into another Dark Age due to every government being evil at their core and every corporation only thinking about money. Humans as usual creating a hellscape for humans to suffer in and wonder how it got this bad or they indulge in it because they are conditioned/brainwashed to want more stress by daddy corporation. That being said no one in 2023 is going to care if a man or a child has their guts rearranged by a machine.

[@naxireal869]

Isn't that like literally an example in a book from the 1920's that led to a lot of labor and FDA regulations? Asking because it sounds really familiar and trying to place it.

[@dazykuri]

"The Jungle" ​@@naxireal869

[@Zadamanim]

"you're going to sell us out for $20,000?!" Meanwhile Judas looking at his 30 pieces of silver

[@aymanelkadouri8235]

Lmao 😂

[@leegaul2161]

Depending on who owns the business, a lot of what my nation has is the "student assistant" workaround. You aren't really doing dangerous work, but getting paid a small amount to do the grunt work on work sites to absorb how everything works. Generally as it says "student" means they are still in secondary school at the time, so it's technically restricted to part time. I had a student assistant job in logistics at 16. The most dangerous event was getting a paper cut. Construction sites, regardless of ownership, forbid grade school age. Farms are a bit lower. It really falls down to scaling the odds of danger and setting the ages around that. However, the "protect businesses from liability" thing is just waiting to be abused by sleazy business owners.

[@Shosty]

The table saws asmon mentioned operate with a charge and when that charge changes in a way consistent with flesh touching the blade the safety activates. So such a saw would not be able to distinguish between a hand and a cows leg, so implementing this tech in an abattoir is unlikely I would guess

[@arctic3007]

I'm not for child labor but I would guess theres less electric current in dead flesh

[@Shosty]

@@arctic3007 all the sales videos for these table saws use sausages to test them...

[@vrez114]

10 years ago I was 14 when I was working in a strawberry farm, barely making any money until I realised later I was paid half of a minimum wage when I work from 6 am in the morning to 6 pm. Dam those were the times lmao

[@Krysnha]

I wonder if they count it as work experience, or pay any pension beefict

[@jigsaucemusic]

I used to work 4:30 pm - 9 or 10 pm every day after school as a minor. It was a local grocery store. I was there until I graduated HS and the highest I got was $7.50 an hour. I just hate how it’s disguised as “experience” and “a privilege” when it’s purely exploitation. I don’t even have that f*cking job on my resume anymore

[@joeyghostx]

Thats how they get away with it too. Everyone forgets, so nothing is done and the mext generation foots the bill.

[@deth3021]

Anymore, so you did use it as experience on your resume then.

[@Aames32]

I managed a restaurant for 10 years. I worked hard teaching every teen that came through my store that if you wanna half ass it you won't get the fill results of your work and in a few days you have to do it again as opposed to the next week. I feel it's okay at 16 and onwards.

[@dannymoontattoos]

I like your mentality but let’s be real here, besides fryers, the prep saw, and basic knife handling there’s nothing in the restaurant that’s nearly as dangerous as the jobs they’re speaking of in the video

[@Nick550]

When I was 16, I stated working in a food production plant. Four hours after school I worked in an area that was 100*F or higher most of the year. I worked in an area that had large, walk-in ovens set to 425F, that baked pastries. 40 pans weighing 10.5 pounds each in a rack that weighed a few hundred pounds itself, all over 400F degrees. You'd think that was heavy, but it wasn't. Those pans got stacked on carts after getting cleaned. Those carts could hold three stacks of pans, stacked 40 high. That comes out to 1260lbs, not accounting for the weight of the carts. It was also loud. Like, a little over 100 decibels loud...constantly. The pay was decent and I needed money, so I didn't complain. That place has since done away with that part-time shift.

[@Krysnha]

Dont forget that not all companies want to be yerks, if the one that is at comand, cares, the workers and give the child a job he knows it wont be dangerour, but if you put a child and you see the palce, could be a risk for the correct development like you said loud and you lost parcially or totaly your hearing the company must be responsible, also, the heat, how many times you get sick, the company put you in a situation you will get sick have to have a heath plan, dont have ok, did you agree, they read and explain these jobs dangers, no, well the company have to pay. The reason they have, because at 16, you dont understand your rigths, dont understand you are putting your healt on the line, the company must explain you and all workers the danger of the job, or people have experience on it

[@thelazyhuntress]

If crime is punishable by fine, it's basically legal for a price.

[@Dumb-Comment]

It was a medieval practice 😂 they could pay churches to have anything they do forgiven

[@Wandervenn]

I went back to work at McDonalds after getting sick (cancer) and my other job screwing me over after having to be out for recovery. I often half jokingly threatened to strike and ranted about unions. One of our 18 year old employees asked, "What is a union for anyway?" And my GM, who is a sweetheart outside of work but has drank the corporate koolaid, said, "Nothing. It wouldnt help you because you coukdnt afford union dues anyway." I stared at her and said, "Man, if only we had a union to fight for better wages. We should definitely listen to salary paid upper management about how we dont need unions." Jobs like McDonads wants kids to think that their mistreatment is normal. Workers that have been there for decades think how they're screwed over is just how it works at all jobs. It's abusive.

[@LoponStormbased]

You work at McDonalds, you DO NOT deserve better wages. You don't deserve the 15$+ an hour you get right now due to bullshit laws. What you are going to do by chasing this delusion that your work is worth that much, is get replace with robots in less than 10 years. Congratufuckinglations. All those entry level jobs will be gone.

[@Krysnha]

Bingo, the moment unions, start to ask for fees, and care for politics, instead of protecting the worker, but true, unions, should be something for all dagerous works, or that have negotiation for contracts and contancs with legal advisors, these create a bad image about unions. Also laws against not firing a worker for health leave, there are but no one follow them

[@dannymoontattoos]

I used to be good for nothing, another typical I was a guy that fell through the cracks of education and society and then was failed by my own parents. I just lived check by check in restaurants hating my life. I tried to kill myself like 4-5 times. Then one day I stopped listening to my managers about my dream of being a tattoo artist. I pursued it prepared to not make much money but at least do what I love. To my surprise within my first year of being a professional (after I graduated my apprenticeship) I already make over 100k a year. Within just 3 years of investing in myself I went from making like 24k to over 100k all I had to do was just chase my dreams and it was easier than I thought it would be

[@TheHauntedKiwi]

​@@KrysnhaThere's a good reason for unions to care about polítics. Ronald Reagan destroyed unions (good thing our masters have always voluntarily paid theit workers more with increased productivity).

[@Krysnha]

@@TheHauntedKiwi yes it is true

[@BaronFeydRautha]

Here in FL it's insane what you can do to you home schooled kid and child labor. I have seen a 12 year old without shoes on cleaning a 5 story office building with his dad in February.

[@MaestroBlur]

Here in Belgium, I've been doing student jobs in shops selling heavy construction materials and warehouses since 15 years old. Drinking age here is also 16. Honestly doing the manual labour back then was a good thing looking back. I stayed in good shape, had good relationships with my colleagues. Yeah I got hurt a couple times, bruises, scratches, cuts, even some broken fingers once. Nothing that has impacted my enjoyment of life now that I finished university and am working my office job. Besides, having that bit of extra cash is fun as a kid, I remember building my first PC with the money I worked for. Belgium is a rich western nation, not a 2nd or 3rd world country, just to set a precedent that maybe it is something worth considering for American youthes as well. It teaches responsibility and a good work ethic to use in their later life.

[@lasagnakob9908]

To my knowledge kids are also allowed as young as 13 to bag groceries at supermarkets if their parents work there, for a few hours or something, or that was the case a few years ago if not anymore. I don't get the whole hoopla of child labor, like yeah, obviously I don't want a kid slaving away in a factory or somewhere super dangerous, but there's nothing wrong with working part time at a shop doing basic labor for example. This has been a staple of human economies everywhere since, well, ever up 'till recent memory; just makes it all the harder for them to get up to speed when they do get old enough to start (which is 16 here)

[@damienman25]

I remember when i was a kid, I helped serve pop corn at a local fair. But it was at one of those pop corn machines where you pour the corn and the butter in that hot corn thing, and it was actually pretty tall and dangerous for kids. Me and my sister took over for these other older teenager fellows who bailed after like 20 minutes. We both got some bad burns working that; we were still in elementary, not even double digits on our age. And this was the late 90s/early 2000s.

[@iBloodxHunter]

Let's be real, small businesses are the most common OSHA violators. Which is fine, but still.

[@Korodarn]

@@iBloodxHunter Remember that megacorps push much more of the unsafe labor over to countries that don't have those laws. They would be OSHA violators if the work was done here. Safety is a cost, there is no avoiding the trade-offs. But these issues will also always exist because of stupid people (employers, parents, etc.) Where were his parents in this scenario? I'm not saying they were doing anything wrong, parenting also involves trade-offs.

[@damienman25]

@No One Really "I remember when i was a *kid*" Kid. 8 at the oldest. Barely old enough to use an oven without adult supervision. And it wasn't the butter that was hot, it was the metal stovepot inside that we burnt ourselves on, the thing that pops the popcorn. Don't try to raise yourself by putting someone else down, especially if you're willfully ignoring context.

[@charlethemagne5466]

@No One Really It was a kid getting burned on a machine an adult told them to operate. Also you've clearly never used a corn machine, the butter is scalding by design and touching it will get you a burn, but expecting someone like you to use your head for a few minutes is too tall an order.

[@damienman25]

@@Korodarn Actually, it was my father that put me and my sister there. In fact it was my father who helped organize the event and brought those two teenage boys along. Since they bailed and someone had to serve the popcorn and me and my sister were helping them till they just..wandered off or whatever, well, y'know.

[@tristan5569]

I started working construction with my dad at 11 all the way up till I was 18. 40-50 hours weeks in the summer and only got paid 10 an hour starting. The bosses didn’t care if I was up on the roofs shingling and doing man’s work as long as I didn’t get hurt. I didn’t understand why that would be so bad but looking back I was a whole victim of child labor 😂

[@Jaaski1337]

Same here, but for me it was a way for my dad to babysit me as a kid so I didnt even get payed lmao

[@douglasmurdoch7247]

@@Jaaski1337 ah, child slavery then lol

[@Jaaski1337]

@@douglasmurdoch7247 yeah but it was fun

[@LudwigVaanArthans]

​@@Jaaski1337that's usually what victims do, retrospectively think all is well

[@GruntoSkunko]

Sounds good. You made money. Legalize it.

[@kingscrub3386]

My dad worked for a crooked carnival here in Utah in the late 60s and early 70s before he went off to the army. While he was working he was 14-17 years old and he did some shit that would throw OSHA into cardiac arrest. And lastly, I mention this carnival was crooked, while he was in the army, the owners got busted for fraud and such.

[@arctic3007]

If only OSHA knew what happens 99% of the time they aren't there

[@kingscrub3386]

@@arctic3007 if they knew, no one would have a job hahah

[@stuarthohm8113]

The tool he is talking about I think is a table saw, not a band saw because the blade stoping super fast is a feature on the sawstop brand saws. As far as I know, bandsaws don’t have that feature.

[@bobsteven2363]

None of the equipment in slaughter houses have the technology to stop when they detect a finger because the way the tech works, it detects flesh, a human finger and the animal your cutting up are both flesh. Also I think I’ve only seen that tech for saw tables

[@thellamapool2328]

They can’t even get my food right, I don’t want a 17 yearold in charge of their safety or someone else’s 😂

[@darkdeath5550]

*Looks at receipt* small lemonade, 20 burgers with no patties, 60 nuggets, and 20 packets of sauce "All I wanted was a number 4"

[@subhsubh3002]

Yes I'm sure they will have 14 year Olds on the industrial lathe the first day, not brooming saw dust 3 days a week. Softie

[@thellamapool2328]

@@subhsubh3002 I’m just saying as a whole it’s a bad outcome XD I’m all for apprenticeships and such but as a whole, way too much room for bad things

[@subhsubh3002]

@@thellamapool2328 I also agree that alot of essential positions are underpaid, that's a different convo. My kids be working their asses off doing landscaping learning work ethic and a useful skill for later on.

[@Exknight2]

@@subhsubh3002 What if this gets worse and your grand-kids get exploited with cheap labor later on? Shouldn't we have some concern as a society a whole?

[@Totsy30]

Starting work at 14? Can't wait to hear employers requiring kids straight out of high school to have 4+ years experience lol

[@darkdeath5550]

At that point, just rob people. Less experience needed, and it's an easy start up business

[@George.j.k]

Some kids are not lazy and what to work

[@tomfoolery7797]

Yeah that's not really the take away you should take from corpos trying to get children into harmful work, you want to work as a kid go deliver newspapers or let them do chores around the house like a sane individual.

[@HizzerPeews]

They're taking plays from Rockerfeller Group creating "Women's Liberation" in the 1960s to get women out of the homes and into the workplace, but now with children.

[@CheatingZubat]

Hot take. Elected officials should have a legal obligation to respond to questions regarding policies and their thoughts on them. If they don’t answer they get fined or jailed. We can’t have a government of representatives that can just side step they WHY with legislation.

[@Barthenn]

Man! Parents in the states are so permissive and hands off with their kids. Back in the 90's when I was in elementary school and late 90's early 2000's High school, 9 pm was sleeping time in Elementary school and 10 pm, maybe 11 pm in High school. Even during summer time, midnight was the max, most of the time 10 or 11 was the norm in the summer as well. I think the first time I go to sleep after midnight was around 20-21 years old. Or On Christmas eve some year we would open our gift at 11 pm or midnight and then eat a little and go to sleep at 1 or 2 am.

[@team4star1]

Kinda messed up how a bunch of old people met up and said “I think kids should work” most likely knowingly aware of the fact that it would result in many kids getting crippling disabilities for the rest of their lives because of accidents. Long as their board members get an extra percent on profits, gotta line their pockets you know?

[@ephemispriest8069]

Yeah, and I know a bunch of people wanting to transition kids despite all the lifetime health issues it brings. At least work can be a positive opportunity. Everyone here is seeing the bad side of a double edged sword. The antiwork crowd at work.

[@PhaZeUnleashed]

Fun fact: America is not a democracy, it is a Constitutional Republic. It is a good idea to learn the difference.

[@LudwigVaanArthans]

It's a constitutional republic in name only. It's a corporate human-farm in practice

[@DeathDeliveryGuy]

Someone with the influence and reach of Asmongold, even better if many creaters would do this, should make TikToks especially catered towards 14 & 15 year olds, explaining how they are being exploited and how much they could actually get. Nowadays, we as consumers can weaponize social media.

[@LoponStormbased]

Brainwash the kids to think they deserve more than 15$/hr working at McDonalds so they can fight for more, and get replaced by robots because the value of their work actually was inflated already. Morons. Enjoy all those entry level jobs vanishing.

[@vawkwardbat]

This just reminded me that Americans want to ban TikTok and worry about kids being on social media...but all good to send them to a slaughter house or factory 🙃

[@sonicmarsh232]

I love the lengths corps will go through to not spend money 😂

[@adinfinitum5159]

It's wild watching corporate intrest manipulate the world

[@bubb922]

In this video, Asmon learns he already more than rich enough to buy several politicians

[@vawkwardbat]

Dangerous info 😂

[@Jeffisnotwrong]

Asmon’s description of the kid working at McDonald’s drive-through. So TRUE 😂

[@Flare3500]

"These people are stuck in 1800" Also Asmon "People getting fights in congress , yeah bring back canes" lol

[@SymSne]

Saw stops wouldn't work. The principle works off the electrical resistance of the material vs flesh. For example wood vs human skin and muscle. Since your goal is to cut flesh... You can't really protect your own.

[@stowsea]

This dude did not just say "searing hot ovens of fast food" like it's a foundry job in the 1920s.

[@MrEbizio]

i grow up in mexico and i remmeber goin to the store to buy beer and cigarettes for my dad i was around 5 -7 years old. I started workin on construction when i was 16 years old to pay my school. i think what their doing is copying what latin america does idk

[@jurgenbrenes8332]

what are you talking about? Im from a small central america country and child labor laws are a thing. Buying cigs and working under the table at 16 is not the same as legally being paid shit for work adults do not want to do, due shitty conditions and shitty payment

[@MrEbizio]

@@jurgenbrenes8332 buddy i said mexico and mexico has multiple states if you don't know and each state has municipios and municipios has small town just like the state of Jalisco where I grew up has multiple towns because Jalisco is surrounded by mountains idk where you from buddy but that was my case.

[@ls200076]

@@MrEbizio Jurgen is based

[@dmike3507]

Dude this is awesome Asmongold is bringing attention to More Perfect Union. One of the most important channels on KZbin IMO.

[@sk00pidis]

Bro, gather 5-7 streamers, choose some bullshit governors and administrators, pool some money together and tell them "Ok , how much did the companies give you?" =Then match that and sprinkle a couple hundred $ over to sweeten the deal. Ask them to do a complete 180 in the proccess. That would be premium content. It will be by the people anyway , you are going to swim in donations ( biggest donors get to add things to a bill proposal if available)

[@nihartley5265]

I've been working since I was 13, and now I'm 20 (started as a recreational basketball referee). The worst job I had was when I was 17-18. It was at a machine shop, and I got it after the company had advertised to my school about offering students jobs. The management lied to the school about the risks and often ignored all the safety precautions they were supposed to be taking. Our coolant tanks had huge growths of mold and algea (something that can easily cause respiratory diseases). We were never offered face masks to try to protect against this, and the tanks were never cleaned. Almost all the other workers did not speak english and were constant smokers (so I was often exposed to a lot of smoke). Plenty of them had missing fingers and cuts that the management simply swept under the rug. I was paid the minimum wage, and when I complained, I was given the reasoning that because I was a minor, I was unable to make any more. I had coworkers making almost double my wage simple because they were a few years older than me. When I turned 18, I asked for raise, but my requests were flat out ignored, because they knew I would not make much of a deal. I've had 1 job, where I could genuinely say my boss or the management was good (the refereeing job). All the others were straight scumbags (some more than others).

[@bud389]

This is why i hate people who defend corporations. They would rather hire a child who risks life long debilitating injuries before they would give you a 1 dollar raise.

[@BossKillRatio]

The children yearn for the mines

[@grantshearer5615]

My only devils argument is that hiring 1 server for school hours when it's slow, and then a child to work the last 4 hours or so, then you dont have to worry about finding a part time adult who might want more hours.

[@eleeyah4757]

Drinking's legal in Germany from age 16. It's not an issue. All that it changes, is that adults have a chance to learn how to be responsible with their drinks a few years earlier, instead of when they're already trying to get their degrees. Further, at age 16, they're still around their parents and thus have somebody providing at least some level of oversight. The same is no longer true at age 21.

[@joshm3484]

I started working when I was 10 delivering newspapers and got my first "real" job at 15 years. We need more child labor protection laws, not fewer.

[@jakejager]

I've been working since I was 13 but my first actual job was picking tobacco at 14 for $5 per hour and that was in the early 90's! Kids need to have jobs when they hit their teens, people are lacking the experience before ending up on their own. it seems to be part of why so many people have poor expectations of what the world owes them...

[@TramaForKing]

YE GOOD OL CHILD LABOR. cheap and effective.

[@TramaForKing]

@@SoulAtParadise not if you put "made in china" on it, then you expect it to be cheap and just good enough to not fall apart. although i have to say, the chinese often make super quality products, but because we often design somethin in the EU for example, then let it get manufactured in china, the quality ends up bein bad, not because of china and child labor nah, but because of the company owners wanting to spend as little as possible XD

[@tommy93hun]

"Land of freedom"

[@YourDadYoda]

My favorite thing is when old people try to use their exploitation at a young age as a reason for why it’s fine for kids today to be exploited

[@Krysnha]

Indeed, then they ask themself why no one visit them at the nursing homw, i agree with apprentischip and if they dont want to pay, at least teach them and the work count as labor and benefict for pension, also moderate the hours, but nowe want they work as adults, and pay them less

[@ephemispriest8069]

I wasn't exploited. I made bank working in high school. I know kids who earned a down payment on a house in high school.

[@lemoniscate]

lets gooooo can't believe they did a rerun of the child labor banner so many patches after it was discontinued

[@sooperd00p]

I had my first job at 16 and worked in Yellowstone National Park the night I graduated HS. Good luck out there Gen Z.

[@dougfoster445]

Well if you can’t overwork adults any more than possible, next is kids!

[@rastamoto]

Every kid growing up in a family business, “Why are you mad? At least you had a choice.”

[@stalwartoffender9292]

The kids have been showing their desire to return to the mines for years. Provide a pickaxe, a shovel, and a work table and they're golden.

[@suprizeoptomist4680]

Lowering the age for working age restricted jobs adversely affects Central American migrant children, specifically. There's already a federal exception to labor laws for farm work. After school activities include being worked like a salve and having wages withheld from children who barely speak English.

[@Beatnik59]

This. This isn't about American minors. This is about minors from Latin America.

[@BrianBBBB]

"This will definitely boost the birth rate" - Ohio Government

[@AutumnleafMind]

We have rolled back into insanity. Why do coorporations get away with it......insanity

[@Randomlabomoty]

MONEY AND CORRUPTION 🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲

[@lifterlv]

If kids can change there gender at 10 they sure as hell can work at 10

[@bobowon5450]

i worked on the family farm ever since i was a little kid. Got paid for my help. I didn't work a 9-5, more like i followed my dad around and gave him a hand where i could after school or on weekends. I loved it, eventually it turned into a proper part time job. The skills i learned there were far more valuable than anything in middle school or high school.

[@connerjessop8422]

Our kids have to work so the rich and their kids don’t have to work a day in their life

[@hollow314]

What is going on in America? Did everyone took lead filled stupid bills?

[@kategraham5186]

I'm a lifeguard and they have 15-year-olds working there. I would be kinda scared if I was a patron that was having a heart attack and drowning and some kid couldn't even lift me up out of the water. “Like do u need help or something” Often time they are scheduled with no adult supervision 😅

[@TheFathomNight]

I'm 40 and when I was 16 in the 90s I worked new construction in plumbing that was in Texas

[@deltasixgaming]

We have a few Minors working in Manufacturing where I work but they are not Allowed to do Certain Jobs only Because the Company doesnt want them getting hurt so they are not allowed to use things like Grinders and Saws

[@Xbox360mIRC]

My dad was on job sites as young as 6 for construction jobs. Was hanging lower cabinets around 10 and sheetrocking around 13. At 14 he had a summer job and 15 was paying taxes. Became a foreman eventually and was certified class 1/2 through the ACCA Welding Certified and also some weird actuated tool certified and also operated heavy equipment and was a plumber and lead maintenance man.

[@andrewwigham3026]

In the U.K. we have 16 year olds working apprenticeships, which is fine - some don’t want to go to college and want to start working. If they were going to allow 16 year olds to work they would have to look at it from a health and safety perspective, what they can and can’t do and work it that way, that’s fine - but anyone under 16 should not be working, they should be in education until they’re 16-18 if not in a proper apprentice job. It’s law that you must either be in an apprenticeship or education until you’re 18 in the UK. “You can leave school on the last Friday in June if you’ll be 16 by the end of the summer holidays. You must then do one of the following until you’re 18: stay in full-time education, for example at a college. start an apprenticeship or traineeship. spend 20 hours or more a week working or volunteering, while in part-time education or training” That’s how we work it.

[@pjpleiss]

I know a 15yr old kid who just scored a summer job paying $20 an hour moving dirt and rocks for a landscaping company. I told him congrats and that he needs to make sure the employment contract has workman's comp in case of "oops, broke your foot!"

[@pjpleiss]

@No One Really You'd think, but in these small towns, there are a lot of shadetree "businesses" where the contract is word of mouth and nary a tax or insurance document is ever filed, so I told him to watch his ass.

[@Grayhound1102]

In Switzerland we let teens work, starting at 16. Construction, office jobs, basically everything. they go to school around 1 day of the week, while working the rest. after 3 to 4 years, they get a certification for that job, if they pass the final exam. We dont really have any deaths or stuff like that because of that, and they become amazing at their job.

[@JRS902]

There was something recently about a meat producer JBS foods having hired like 200 children to run a US factory.

[@moldyzucchinis3251]

I do not support child labor, just wanted to point out as a woodworker that bandsaws are relatively safe. The forces at play naturally push the workpiece down toward the table. Clamping is used on metal ones. The sawstop table saw is what you are thinking about, but those are several thousand dollar investments, as they keep delaying the release of key patents.

[@kievitz]

This is how we roll in Finland. A friend of mine started working in real estate maintenance when he was 15, he got paid full salary, worked first about 20 hours a week. when he turned 18, it changed to 40hrs/week full summer holiday of 4 weeks, winter holiday of 1 week and 12.5 days/year to use as holidays settled with the employer, when working those bigger hours. Hes still working, but now hes the boss, with 25 years of experience on the field at 40 years old. And the salary is good, so is his pension to come. This is voluntary, you wanna work, go for it. You still have the duty to study untill youre 18. Its in the law, duty to study until youre 18, theres no options unless you work. And the Businesses are liable for fk ups, if you dont train your crew and sht goes down, company pays. Btw its a law that every company has to have their workforce insured for accidents and even in some cases they are insured for death

[@Big_Sway]

I was never taught what union was in school. I wasn’t taught anything about labor laws or any of that in school. We were also forced to say the pledge of allegiance or face detention here in Texas

[@ohno6325]

"they don't wash their hands because then they'd get their phone wet" 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 the drive thru bit and that had me dead

[@southernkei]

The sawstop works by detecting electric conduction. Wet wood, metal, and meat sets it off. It absolutely would not work in a meat processing plant.

[@justanoman6497]

I think that before asking whether a child should be able to work, we first need to ask why they feel the need to. Remember, a working child is better than a starving child. Ideally we want neither, but if we have to choose out of the two.... The simple solution of prohibition might not be the best one, depending on the motivation to work. The actual failure might be with the social safety net.

[@deth3021]

I started working hard labor at 14, with my dad on my school holidays. At the start, it was only every second day, over time I got up to the full 5-and-a-half day work week. Set out at 5:30 am and get home after 6 pm. It was hard work but i liked it. I kept doing it until I was in my 20s.

[@justanoman6497]

I don't think saw stop would work at a slaughter house. This is due to the way saw stop works--it works by detecting conductive change on the material it is cutting. Unfortunately, the stuff being cut in a slaughter house, which is meat, have similar conductivity was human body.