We've Arrived | GAME OF THRONES [8x5] (REACTION)

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@jmboyd65
@jmboyd65 10 ай бұрын
"He's in love with her." "When???" Exactly. They really wimped out on romance, i never believed they were in love. They kept telling us, not showing us.
@C.R.W
@C.R.W 10 ай бұрын
Varys: "I've always hated the bells, they ring for horror. A dead king, a city under siege" Davos: "I've never known bells to mean surrender"
@TheJordanK
@TheJordanK 10 ай бұрын
@@j_fley6702they didn’t tell the other side tho 😂
@JasonVanderwyk-91Bravo
@JasonVanderwyk-91Bravo 10 ай бұрын
All Dany needed to do was just fly to the red keep and deal with Cersi after taking out the fleet and everything.
@izattyu6863
@izattyu6863 10 ай бұрын
@@JasonVanderwyk-91Bravosomething she could have done episodes ago.
@SirKolass
@SirKolass 10 ай бұрын
@@j_fley6702 Cersei would never pass that message down to anyone.
@Melodicroger
@Melodicroger 10 ай бұрын
@@j_fley6702 it’s not that she didn’t have tyrannical impulses but it all happened to advance a specific goal and was coupled with avoiding hurting children and “innocents”. She went genocidal at the point of total victory bc the writers were sloppy…which was endemic in the final seasons. What was the point exactly?
@penguin50279
@penguin50279 10 ай бұрын
Varys tried to poison dany, that’s why he died. the show makes it very unclear though.
@NiKiMa023
@NiKiMa023 10 ай бұрын
‘We’ll try again later’ Ok, koo koo koo
@radiofly3r86
@radiofly3r86 10 ай бұрын
Dude, I watched that episode for like the third time and still missed it. I‘m an idiot
@jjfam777
@jjfam777 10 ай бұрын
Extremely unclear. I didn't notice till you said it and I've seen it at least 3 times😂😂
@kidgforce1
@kidgforce1 10 ай бұрын
Varys´ little bird worked at the kitchen, but Dany didn´t eat.
@Shia224
@Shia224 10 ай бұрын
i believe it the part where varys little bird come into the room and he asks if danny ate @@radiofly3r86
@LegenDaeria
@LegenDaeria 10 ай бұрын
Remember when Daenerys in season 7 wanted to go straight to the Red Keep to kill Cersei and take the throne and Turion was all clever plans just because he wanted to protect his family?
@Saphthings
@Saphthings 10 ай бұрын
Remember when in season 7 she said she didn't come here to rule over ashes?
@generalmortars7557
@generalmortars7557 10 ай бұрын
I refuse to accept this idiot as Tyrion. For me, Tyrion died from alcohol poisoning somewhere back in season 5.
@LegenDaeria
@LegenDaeria 10 ай бұрын
@@Saphthings That's why I am saying the writing is sooooo stupid!
@nathanmcdowell4731
@nathanmcdowell4731 10 ай бұрын
She just forgot about Euron and his entire nav, forgot she saved half her dothraki and unsullied forces from the fight at winterfell, forgot to spare the innocents, forgot about her own armies still inside the city...smh I can see this for her in the books but much more fleshed out and earned. DnD were just phoning it in
@LegenDaeria
@LegenDaeria 10 ай бұрын
@@esinach I am just answering to what Coddy said in the video. He said that all Daenerys had to do was to fly to the Red Keep and destroy it killing everyone inside. And I replied that Daenerys wanted to do so but Turion convinced her otherwise
@LukeVonDoom
@LukeVonDoom 10 ай бұрын
“I’ve never known bells to mean surrender.” ~ Ser Davos Seaworth, Battle of Blackwater Bay, S2E9
@carolinecoy3164
@carolinecoy3164 10 ай бұрын
But that's what tyrion and Jamie had decided to do to let them know it meant surrender. It didn't matter what it usually meant. As long as they knew what it meant. Which they did
@IslandpferdeHaukagil
@IslandpferdeHaukagil 10 ай бұрын
​@@carolinecoy3164 Exactly! Jamie went and rang the bells (or informed the guards to do so). Daenerys knew what is was supposed to mean, that should have been enough.
@kidgforce1
@kidgforce1 10 ай бұрын
None of the soldiers knew it would mean surrender
@IslandpferdeHaukagil
@IslandpferdeHaukagil 10 ай бұрын
@@kidgforce1 Which doesn't make any difference. Ringing the bells was supposed to stop Daeny's atrack not the soldiers.
@malwandlashaun8580
@malwandlashaun8580 10 ай бұрын
he sa
@LindsUnhinged
@LindsUnhinged 10 ай бұрын
one of the few favorite aspects of the end is that when Dany has the vision of seeing the iron throne back in season 2 or whatever it’s white snow falling but in reality it ends up being ash falling.
@SerbAtheist
@SerbAtheist 10 ай бұрын
It's both ash and snow (you can clearly see icicles in the vision). Dany brought winter to King's Landing. 'Winter is coming' was HER, not the NK.
@ACinemafanatic
@ACinemafanatic 10 ай бұрын
That made no sense why did it snow in Kings landing at the end of season 7
@andalilbitqueer
@andalilbitqueer 10 ай бұрын
nah, doubt the dumb and dumber ever thought about that
@harshahir3176
@harshahir3176 10 ай бұрын
It would've been cool if it was that, but it's very clealy snow cuz we can see crystals and hear her boot crushing it, well less hear it more read it in subtitles in s2 and I don't think it's just ash as apparently it's all snowy in a few hours and a few minutes means a dragon being covers in snow next ep so I don't think it's supposed to be that clever though it's a nice headcanon to forget this atrocity
@carolinecoy3164
@carolinecoy3164 10 ай бұрын
​@@SerbAtheist that makes no sense at all. There wasn't snow in other places she went? How did she have the power to bring snow,with no mention of it all of a sudden. Snow had already come to kings landing when jamie left to fight the war of the dead remember. It wasn't snow. Just ashes.
@Senblch
@Senblch 10 ай бұрын
Jon season 8 recap: "She's my queen", " i dun wan it, i never ave"
@Raminagrobisfr
@Raminagrobisfr 10 ай бұрын
He is basically Hodor now.
@renee7407
@renee7407 10 ай бұрын
Seriously! That was SO annoying to me!
@smackyay
@smackyay 10 ай бұрын
a ma qwun, ae dun wu ae, y nae aeev
@nightfrost1891
@nightfrost1891 10 ай бұрын
it upsets me SO much because dany and jon have so many parallels and them meeting would have been epic but d&d decided to make jon boring AF that is NOT my jon neither is anyone this season and some of last season idk who these imposters are jon came back from death and somehow ended up more boring ????? makes NO sense
@kittykatt7652
@kittykatt7652 10 ай бұрын
@@nightfrost1891 He was always boring. Like Ned. All the "good" characters are.
@TheNeonParadox
@TheNeonParadox 10 ай бұрын
Jamie going back to Cersei was the ultimate speedrun in undoing ten years of character development.
@bryankoerselman5698
@bryankoerselman5698 10 ай бұрын
This take disregards Jamie's actual character. Everyone is used to a redemption story where the victims forgive the person looking for redemption and then it's over, but that ignores the actual point of a redemption story is for the person to forgive themselves. While the realm and audience start to forgive Jamie, he still couldn't forgive himself. Actually makes Jamie the most interesting character in the show
@Saphthings
@Saphthings 10 ай бұрын
I could see it happening, but it was just written and directed wrongly. If they were gonna do that it should've been more with him regretting his decision and upset at himself for not being able to give her up. Instead they almost played it off like, "till the end they still loved one another
@Spade976
@Spade976 10 ай бұрын
Kingslayer Queenslayer, it was all right there.
@PaperclipClips
@PaperclipClips 10 ай бұрын
@@Saphthings I agree, it was the implementation that was messed up. Quite early on in the show, Bronn had asked Jamie, "How do you see yourself dying?" and Jamie replied, "In the arms of the one I love" and so even from way back, the entire framework of his arc was already being set up. But it was how they wrapped up the entire thing that, to me, was lacking -- just like how it is with the rest of the multiple other storylines.
@patriciataylor7525
@patriciataylor7525 10 ай бұрын
How do you figure? He wanted to die in the arms of the woman he loves
@havok6280
@havok6280 10 ай бұрын
To be fair, Dany promised Varys she'd burn him alive if he betrayed her. He knew the consequences of his actions but he was willing to accept them for what he believed was the greater good. It's not Tyrion's fault.
@MMKOCH200
@MMKOCH200 10 ай бұрын
Fair point. She did warn him.
@monlovchel
@monlovchel 10 ай бұрын
However, he did go to her and tell her what he thought, and she ignored him.
@BostonAmy
@BostonAmy 10 ай бұрын
I forget. Do we know who Varya was writing to? Was it the Maesters at the Citadel? Also, did Dany know he was trying to poison her food or did she execute him due to his betrayal of writing to people about Jon? I was always a little unclear.
@nikkis.2066
@nikkis.2066 10 ай бұрын
Vayrs went from one of the smartest character in the show, the man who orchestrated SO much and survived multiple reigns...to do a jobber level of trying to kill Danny and just admit willingly that yes...he's a traitor.
@RyoHazuki224
@RyoHazuki224 10 ай бұрын
Yep and Varys even promised that he'd always be honest with her. But he still betrayed her. Granted, Tyrion shouldn't have told Varys, and Sansa shouldn't have told Tyrion.
@dsfddsgh
@dsfddsgh 10 ай бұрын
The Mountain was a more unstoppable force of death then the Night King and didn't die from a single stab of a blade. 🤣
@robertfishburn8545
@robertfishburn8545 10 ай бұрын
All hail the fight king
@skylarjeselnik
@skylarjeselnik 10 ай бұрын
Right! 🙃
@dredre102906
@dredre102906 10 ай бұрын
@@robertfishburn8545the “Knight”King lol
@SirKolass
@SirKolass 10 ай бұрын
The Night King was killed by dragon glass, the ONLY thing that kills him.
@NoSageMeadow
@NoSageMeadow 10 ай бұрын
​@Kolazs Not only did you miss the point, but you got it wrong. It was Valyrian steel.
@autje1970
@autje1970 10 ай бұрын
About the Dothraki: "Didn't they all die?" According to the showrunners in the after-the-episode for episode 3, yes.
@tianna1116
@tianna1116 10 ай бұрын
Yep they said, it was essentially the end of the Dothraki
@BazookaGamingGirl
@BazookaGamingGirl 10 ай бұрын
@@tianna1116 and then Grey Worm said "half are gone"
@tianna1116
@tianna1116 10 ай бұрын
@@BazookaGamingGirl oh really? I don’t remember that, but yea it got so messy at the end who knows
@cathleenwarner1778
@cathleenwarner1778 15 күн бұрын
@@tianna1116 It was the scene right before Jon, Sansa, Arya and Bran, spoke in the woods
@House_of_Daenerys
@House_of_Daenerys 10 ай бұрын
Are u guys watching House of the Dragon after, cause I’d be so excited if u are!
@hekataion
@hekataion 10 ай бұрын
They said that they will watch it
@emucat1
@emucat1 10 ай бұрын
Hope it gets better in season 2 , is a bit gloomy and not many laughs or witty characters.
@imanis.h.8431
@imanis.h.8431 9 ай бұрын
@@emucat1 I hope so and I think so too, it felt to me like a dramatic telenovela with a little bit of dragons in it 😂
@thomasluke-wp8or
@thomasluke-wp8or 10 ай бұрын
Not sure if you picked up on it but at the beginning when varys was talking to the young girl they were talking about how varys was trying to poison daenaerys
@tebbysweet7555
@tebbysweet7555 10 ай бұрын
Kings Landing got exactly what they deserved. Varys got exactly what he deserved. Daenerys was betrayed at every turn by her advisors and the man she loved, given horrible advice that contradicted all logic and led to the death of her dragon and closest fried and ultimately millions more dead then if she'd just immediately stormed Kings Landing like she wanted to. She never did a single thing wrong, and THATS the tragedy of GoT. The characters who did it all right are the ones who lose in the end. Ned lost his head, Robb lost everything, Dany went mad, Jon sent back into exile. Thats the whole point of the show imo, there is no pretty happy ever after. Good people lose and die and the ones who hid behind them wind up winning. This episode isnt trying to show you Daenerys is bad, its showing you no one good ever wins in this story. Even Daenerys lost it all in the end.
@okyeawtf
@okyeawtf 10 ай бұрын
I didn't catch it the first time either, but I think it was insinuated that Varys was poisoning Dany's food. He was meeting in secret with his little bird to see if she was eating. If Tyrion got wind of that, as her Hand, he's obligated to warn Dany.
@Puggapillar
@Puggapillar 10 ай бұрын
the only bell I cared about today was the notification bell 🔔
@JCascante88
@JCascante88 10 ай бұрын
Don't forget to incinerate that innocent like button
@jaymanuel3396
@jaymanuel3396 10 ай бұрын
Varys was trying to poison Dany and was sending ravens to overthrow her. He got busted and was executed, he basically asked for it. He was a likeable character, but he committed treason. Is she supposed to say, oh you silly man, nice try, go back to work? Plus I love how the Red Keep collapsed but miraculously, the stairs are left clear of debris, so Cersei can just stroll away! 😂
@tobe1207
@tobe1207 10 ай бұрын
In a fire or hurricane drill..where do they tell you to go? Lmao
@sproductionsinc
@sproductionsinc 10 ай бұрын
He went to Dany and she didn't listen to him. It's her own fault.
@thegranttribrid7509
@thegranttribrid7509 6 ай бұрын
@@sproductionsincBecause instead of consoling her, he urged her to do nothing when everything crumbled around her.
@noone6896
@noone6896 4 ай бұрын
@@thegranttribrid7509 Do u think consoling would change? Even when she sane in Mereen, she didnt hear her advisers saying not to execute publicly Mereen citizen(former slave)... Also she earlier saying to tell everything to her face instead of plotting behind to remove her is stupid idea, bcauz if it reaches to the point he thinks it is necessary to replace her it means there is no point of trying to change her opinion, u will just giveaway ur intentions
@Poisonedwight
@Poisonedwight 2 ай бұрын
@@noone6896 when did she execute slaves in mereen?
@seeenoooh
@seeenoooh 10 ай бұрын
I think Dany wanted to go against Tyrion's plan from the start, after Missandai's death. "Enough with the clever plans," she said before. In her mind, every time she listened to him, things go wrong, so my guess here is that she chose to completely do the exact opposite and "be a dragon."
@Nattiie
@Nattiie 10 ай бұрын
Well if she didn’t listen to him and just went straight for Cercei and Red Keep in S7, instead of Tyrion convincing her otherwise with his failed plans things would have acc been better but he wanted to protect his family. She could have just went for the castle S7.
@seeenoooh
@seeenoooh 10 ай бұрын
@@Nattiie Danny wanted to win the ppl initially and be successful like she was in Essos where you also notice that she never used her dragons to burn their cities or castles to the ground. Unfortunately for her, she didn’t listen to lady Olenna or follow the example of her ancestor Aegon the Conquerer to take over Westeros. She was inexperienced and often loses her temper to stupid stuff which further clouded her judgement.
@Nattiie
@Nattiie 10 ай бұрын
@@seeenoooh yes but then she was left alone, unloved, betrayed and mourning with no one by her side but Grey Worm- her war champion. A Targaryen alone in the world is a terrible thing… Holding the biggest power in the world and mind littered with revengeful fury. She destroyed the very city her ancestor Aegon created. The castle his son build. All the stories she heard since she was born were finally there. She had a vision of a world, “breaking the wheel” no more idiotic or insane family nonsense who rules over everyone. Now the person who rules will be chosen -another civilisation as great as old Valyria, and she wanted this for everyone in the whole world. That was the future basically, our present. Now how she would have gotten there hopefully not like in Kings Landing. But I think that place was just more personal and emotional for her Targaryen blood.
@pplr1
@pplr1 4 ай бұрын
Season 7 showed Daenerys had better planning than Tyrion. Also if D and D had not changed the plans for season 8 from wildfire wrecking the city 1 dragon it is likely the 1 building that would get flamed is the Red Keep with Cersei in it-not the whole city.
@zaidencrawford7648
@zaidencrawford7648 10 ай бұрын
The whole army respawn
@harshahir3176
@harshahir3176 10 ай бұрын
The northern army the dothraki all respawn, realistically no one but dorne and maybe iron islands and vale should have an army and the later ones too should've very small ones
@mymaynee5963
@mymaynee5963 10 ай бұрын
@@harshahir3176the vale army was there
@jakejones8032
@jakejones8032 10 ай бұрын
Which army respawn? Dany had 50k Dothraki and 8k Unsullied at Winterfell. Plus, the Northern and Vale armies. That's close to 70k troops. Somewhere around 10k show up at King's Landing. That's about 60k lost in Episode 3. 10k troops plus a Dragon was obviously more than enough.
@theoneaboveallthelivingtri5862
@theoneaboveallthelivingtri5862 10 ай бұрын
​@@jakejones8032 Dumb and dummer: what we see is the end of the dothraki in this battle.
@retnuHDJ
@retnuHDJ 10 ай бұрын
@@jakejones8032 The Dothraki. The ones we watched charge the army of the undead and die almost to a man. Somehow they are back in numbers
@bronxbulldog3329
@bronxbulldog3329 10 ай бұрын
The reason Tyrion told Danny about Varis is because he was trying to poison her using the little girl that delivers the food but Danny wasn’t eating.
@notactuallyEDGY
@notactuallyEDGY 10 ай бұрын
You guys' think you're pissed about Varys' ending, I recommend looking up Conleth Hill (Varys' Actor) reacting to his lazily written exit. Sums it up pretty well.
@WLDB
@WLDB 10 ай бұрын
Emilia Clarke cried when she read the script and saw what Danaerys ends up doing. She didnt like it af all but still did a damn good job acting with what she was given.
@sproductionsinc
@sproductionsinc 10 ай бұрын
She actually didn't get to read the final script. They changed it on her and she didn't find out until the premiere, she said. The writers also said they kept her from seeing the new storyboards, too. In the original script, Dany only burned the solders which accidentally set off the wildfire underneath the city, left over from the Mad King, which killed the innocents. The VFX artists had to go in last minute, change all the green to dragon fire, and also add in the dragon flying around. It's why she doesn't go directly to the Red Keep and also why there are never any shots of Dany flying on the dragon while she's burning the city. She also said in an interview that at the time, she was confused as to why Kit was playing Jon as being so angry with her in the last episode because she was still playing it as Dany setting the wildfire off unintentionally. Very weird last minute choices by the creators.
@Groovycaterpillar
@Groovycaterpillar 10 ай бұрын
“We haven’t seen Arya do that in a minute” It’s funny that Arya spends like 2 seasons learning the face stuff and only uses it TWICE
@havok6280
@havok6280 10 ай бұрын
It was Rhaegal who died last episode. The Night King killed Viserion.
@generalmortars7557
@generalmortars7557 10 ай бұрын
Rhaegal, rode by Aegon Targaryen(Jon), son of Rhaegar.
@jsanderson3825
@jsanderson3825 10 ай бұрын
wanna comment on your comment about Jon Jon: lied to Mance, Tormund, Ygritte, and all the wildlings to gain information for the Night's watch s7-8 Jon: LYING BAD, MA QUEEN
@mermaidreviews4693
@mermaidreviews4693 10 ай бұрын
So true
@bmaxime8771
@bmaxime8771 10 ай бұрын
He lied to ennemies to get info and so Quorin halfhand didnt sacrifice himself for nothing, people like you remembering only what they want to remember are hilarious, bad faith at its finest xD
@jsanderson3825
@jsanderson3825 10 ай бұрын
@@bmaxime8771 i remember canon quite well, thank you, both from the series, and the books. how is lying and befriending enemy in holding Quorin’s sacrifice different from lying to Cercei in order to defeat White Walkers and Others? please do explain
@bmaxime8771
@bmaxime8771 10 ай бұрын
@@jsanderson3825 he didnt even really lie to the wildlings, he just said what he had to to survive and get back to the nights watch, its different than making an official vow in front of witnesses to break it after, its not that hard to understand really xD
@jsanderson3825
@jsanderson3825 10 ай бұрын
@@bmaxime8771 so you’re forgetting Jon also broke the Night’s Watch vows? lets break it down real simple: 1. both causes ensure survival, if not for Jon, then for people he took responsibility of when he became the king in the North. why does he act different in similar circumstances? 2. he swore an oath to the Night’s Watch, and yet broke that oath, he layed with Ygritte. he quit the Night’s Watch, breaking another part of the oath (although that is, I admit, is questionable, since he died, but still - if Jon is that honorable as you think he is, he should have rejected the title of a king in the North) 3. Cercei expected him to simply stay out of the conflict, not fight against Daenerys, so he should have been able to think it through as a reasonable offer also, Jon did not say he wanted to get back to the Night’s Watch neither to Mance, nor to Ygritte or others. He said he wanted to fight for the side that fights for the living, if we are quoting, meaning that he pledged himself to Mance’s cause.
@BERSERKERKINGREVIEWS
@BERSERKERKINGREVIEWS 10 ай бұрын
Bridgeco,s watch has ended😭what a journey it has Been with you guys !
@federicovial9147
@federicovial9147 10 ай бұрын
Why?
@Nattiie
@Nattiie 10 ай бұрын
Targaryen’s, Dany, held power in their hands a man never should have played with. Her being completely alone, betrayed by everyone and no one by her side but Grey Worm, her WAR champion. Both wanting revenge. Sitting on that dragon looking at the Keep, seeing it represented everything she lost, all her family built, & where she lost her family, who took her dragons, the people she loved. She helped the North and got betrayed in return while she also lost her Dragon for them. I’m not surprised she flipped- I’m surprised she suffered those consequences so fast while we had Joffrey for like 4 seasons.
@badgaltinginnit
@badgaltinginnit 10 ай бұрын
Real and true. Real and true. I never looked at it from that perspective. How tf did we get to suffer with joffre for 4 seasons, but they unloaded on her in less than 1... I have the answer but people don't like that it ends in ny
@bmaxime8771
@bmaxime8771 10 ай бұрын
The north didnt betray her, the f are you even talking about xD Everything to justify mass murders of civilians, looking at the comments i'm glad y'all are not in positions of power, you would do some fucked up shit
@Melodicroger
@Melodicroger 10 ай бұрын
But let’s be real, she coulda flown straight to the Red Keep in season 7 and ended this shit…the entire premises of the last two seasons was pretty lame. I know there’s no show if she’s decisive right away but this is what’s tough with writing for OP characters.
@pplr1
@pplr1 4 ай бұрын
Actually the earlier plan for season 8 itself was for wildfire to be what wrecked King's Landing. That is was changed to just 1 dragon was a last minute change. According to an interview with the actress that played season 8 Dany she was flying off to kill "her" not a city-thus the her likely meant Cersei which would've made sense but D and D screwed that up.
@alisoncoelho306
@alisoncoelho306 10 ай бұрын
One of my observations was the farther away Jamie got from Cercei the darker his hair got. Like the Toxic gold washed out.
@stephanielomeli6950
@stephanielomeli6950 10 ай бұрын
na he just wanted to stop dying his hair, remember tyrions awful dye job in the pilot episode 😂
@LSThrowaway
@LSThrowaway 7 ай бұрын
Crazy rewatching this now, realizing they totally did foreshadow this ending. Dany left a trail of fire and bloody bodies wherever she went, ultimately. In some places she tried different methods for peace, different levels of violence, but in the end she left after setting everything on fire and killing nearly everyone.
@emmanuel6634
@emmanuel6634 10 ай бұрын
This might be my favorite episode of the show. Like, I understand why it was so disliked at first. It truly hurts to see our heroes fall short of our expectations but that feels so realistic to me. I also love the way this episode reframes the entire conflict. All of a sudden, our heroes are the villains, and the villains are victims. It feels like the classic subversion that this show does so well. I also like how Jon's parentage is used not to save the world but to doom it. In any other traditional fantasy, the "secret prince who saves the world" trope would leas to a happy ending. In Game of Thrones it leads to death and destruction. I understand why this might put people off but to me, it's exactly why I love Game of Thrones.
@abuhatim8994
@abuhatim8994 10 ай бұрын
Cersei said in season 2 : they said every time targaryen is born the gods flips a coin Lord varys season 8 : I still don't know how her coin has landed but i'm quite certain about yours
@queenxx1690
@queenxx1690 10 ай бұрын
They also said that half Targaryens went mad which is not true only like 5 of them did and only 1 king
@joi-alexandrahall9113
@joi-alexandrahall9113 10 ай бұрын
I was hoping yall would pick up on the fact that the shot of Dany flying over kings landing, right before she started burning it , was the exact vision Bran saw in the woods!
@pplr1
@pplr1 4 ай бұрын
So this is Bran arranging for a dragon to burn King's Landing in order to enable his rise to power? Makes more sense than taking season 8 at face value. BTW the earlier plans for season 8 itself had wildfire as what wrecked the city-not 1 dragon. Don't let the visuals fool you into thinking D and D kept to a plan-they often don't.
@NoShiiitSherlock
@NoShiiitSherlock 10 ай бұрын
10:28 - "I will act in the interest of the innocent no matter the personal costs to myself." Varys was a real one. True G for the people the ENTIRE SERIES. RIP Medevil Bernie Sanders ❤
@MISTERBABAD00K
@MISTERBABAD00K 10 ай бұрын
All that build up, and the Lanister Army was defeated in like 20 minutes.
@Neddoest
@Neddoest 10 ай бұрын
Not to mention the Golden Company…
@EMANUGARC
@EMANUGARC 10 ай бұрын
Well yeah. She has a dragon. Y’all complain about everything.
@seeenoooh
@seeenoooh 10 ай бұрын
What can a medieval army do against a dragon? If she had all three of them, they'd all melt in 5 mins.
@SirKolass
@SirKolass 10 ай бұрын
​@@EMANUGARC Is that so? She had two of them when the Iron Fleet murdered one of them and forced her to flee, suddenly she can burn the entire fleet in a few minutes 😂
@EMANUGARC
@EMANUGARC 10 ай бұрын
@@SirKolass uhm yes she destroyed all the scorpions. If the scorpions didn’t exist she could’ve taken out every army in minutes just like she did these. Why do you think none of the armies fought Aegon the conqueror and his sisters dragons? You sound dumb lol
@johnnyd1790
@johnnyd1790 10 ай бұрын
To Varys's betrayal, evan the dog was: "Naaah, I'm gone." PS: Now that I watch it for the gazillionth time, where did Drogon have so much oil supply? That fire is like 20 Boeings worth lol
@rhiannongreen2642
@rhiannongreen2642 10 ай бұрын
Maybe he fished up and ate Rhaegal for a power up
@neonunderground5972
@neonunderground5972 10 ай бұрын
Your guys frustration perfectly encapsulates what all of us die hard fans felt with these last few episodes. They took one of the greatest shows in the history of television, and really screwed it all up.
@joshwoznicki2844
@joshwoznicki2844 10 ай бұрын
"I've always hated the bells. They ring for horror." -Varys Edit: I'm glad you recognized that there were hints of what Dany was capable of since I think that's something a lot of people tend to either forget or ignore about her. She is and has always been capable of doing horrible things but, until recently, those horrible things were done to horrible people. She's also not good at dealing with loss. When she lost Drogo and her child, she had the witch who was responsible burned alive. When she was betrayed in Qarth and, for a time, lost her dragons, she burned the one who took her dragons and locked the two betrayers in a vault to starve to death. She killed and burned many slavers in Slaver's Bay and even crucified the ones in Meereen. Later, when the sons of the Harpy killed Barristan, she forced the head members from each of Meereen's royal families to face her dragons until said dragons burned and devoured one of them. As soon as she arrived in Westeros, things started going downhill for her fast. She quickly lost all of her allies there and just about accused Tyrion of treason when he still suggested they continue with a siege. She then wanted to abandon all subtlety and fully unleash her dragons despite knowing what the cost would be. She did hold back by using only one against the Lannister forces, but then used terror to force them to submit to her after burning Tarly and his son alive. Soon after she suffered one of her greatest losses when the Night King killed one of her dragons. Now, in this final season, she's lost Jorah, her most loyal knight and the one who's followed her longer than any of the others, another one of her dragons, who she views as her children, Missandei, her last real friend who was once again chained in the final moments of her life, Jon Snow, while he still remains loyal to her has closed his heart to her after realizing the two are family, and Varys, who abandoned her after realizing she was a lost cause.
@Hear.myvoice
@Hear.myvoice 10 ай бұрын
I agree that Dany was always cruel but her character was unrecognizable after season 6... I'm not talking about this episode but the last two seasons.
@Hereticked
@Hereticked 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for outlining all this. Dany's downfall was telegraphed long ago with signs of it in just about every season. Bread crumbs were sprinkled around the show that started with "When a Targaryen is born, a coin is flipped." The audience wanted to believe otherwise, but Dany lost the flip. All it took was enough trauma and loss to reveal it.
@nyxqueen5417
@nyxqueen5417 10 ай бұрын
Your putting no context into that though. She burned the witch who poisoned her husband and sacrificed her unborn child's life. She locked up the man who tried to sell her to the warlocks inside the vault of wealth he promised her and didn't have along with the handmaiden that betrayed her. She burned the warlock who was trying to enslave her and her dragons to power themselves. She crucified Slave Masters because they had crucified over a hundred slave children on her walk to Mereen. She executed two men who refused to submit to her, which is something many kings and rulers and conquerors have done. Her actions are not outside the actions that other rulers have taken. Also her entire time spent in Westeros has been a travesty honestly and it mostly comes down to horrible decisions and ideas from her advisors. Varys at one point starts trying to poison her for... reasons? Tyrion's advice and suggestions have been generally dreadful. In helping Jon the foolish she lost a dragon. The death of her second dragon by the Greyjoys was horrible writing. She should have honestly moved directly to Kings Landing once she hit land. Tyrion knows the secret passage ways through the castle, that could've snuck in soldier. But no, he hamstrung her and her efforts.
@Chloe.reynolds96
@Chloe.reynolds96 10 ай бұрын
@@nyxqueen5417yeah her actions have been valid and justified. It can't be done perfectly because you can't please everyone but she done it the best way she knew how and her intentions were good. I love dany, she got done dirty and tbh she went about it the best way when experiencing severe trauma in the situation. She restrained herself a lot and sometimes it comes to a boiling point but doesn't deem someone as crazy. Can't write someone off for 1 mistake when they've done so much good
@SuperHungrywolf
@SuperHungrywolf 10 ай бұрын
Never understood people being mad at Dany for killing Varys. That was the most deserved death in his case. He already tried to kill her once. She trusted him again just because of Tyrion. And here comes Tyrion saying yeah Varys betrayed you. And we are like 😮. She killes him. Whaaaaaaaat?
@jamesw7072
@jamesw7072 10 ай бұрын
Right, plus he was trying to poison her this episode
@rhiannongreen2642
@rhiannongreen2642 10 ай бұрын
People are more annoyed his character was that dumb
@chunglu
@chunglu 10 ай бұрын
at least he died doing what he loved: being right
@mandykimmav
@mandykimmav 6 ай бұрын
I can't speak for others but I've never been mad at Dany. I'm mad at the writers for turning the cunning, spymaster Varys into an idiot with no self preservation. He never attempted to assassinate a literal crazy man, a drunk, or a sadist but for some reason Dany being sad is enough for him to risk his life by brazenly commit treason while on a difficult to escape island. Unbelievable.
@serlotsadoe
@serlotsadoe 10 ай бұрын
One of my co-workers said don't feel bad for the people at King's Landing... They were the same ones cheering at Ned's execution 😂😂😂
@baronhomer1
@baronhomer1 10 ай бұрын
That doesn't make it ok to kill them
@PrincessSarah090288
@PrincessSarah090288 10 ай бұрын
#1 thats not an excuse...Especially since they had NO CLUE about what was the hell even going on betweem Cersei & Dany. She just came out of nowhere and slaughtered a whole city of innocent civilians #2 Those ppl cheered cuz they believed what the Lannisters was TELLING them. Remember Ned didn't even get to speak of have a fair trial. So no, that doesn't mean they deserved to die
@samdouglasmccoin2768
@samdouglasmccoin2768 10 ай бұрын
I can tell yall haven't seen AOT, kill or be killed use the power you have or it'll be used on you. Imagine cersi had dragons should destroy her entire enemy forces, why shouldn't danerys
@Joshua-i2o8s
@Joshua-i2o8s 10 ай бұрын
Ned was on trial, literally admitting to treason against the crown, in front of an executioners block. I think the cheering people get a pass on that one.
@bmaxime8771
@bmaxime8771 10 ай бұрын
stupid thought process, people cheering for Ned's execution had no clue about the plots and the fact that he wasnt a traitor, all they new was the official version, Ned is a traitor and plotted to take power. Daenerys Fanbois are hilarious
@DaddyDoom
@DaddyDoom 10 ай бұрын
This could only end like this. Madness runs deep in the Targaryen and Jon was only spared because of his upbringing, being an underdog and having to carve his own path. Daenerys for all her initial virtues and promise, grew up with the idea that she was meant to rule, even when her brother was alive. She was fed the idea that she was almost divine. In the end, the loss of Missandei, the dragons and the growing paranoia about Jon and that everyone around her was an obstacle to her divine destiny, pushed her over the edge to the same madness that killed her father. It could only end this way.
@SerbAtheist
@SerbAtheist 10 ай бұрын
26:15 'This is f-ing ridiculous!' Ah, why so sad now? You were enjoying the sight of people being burned alive so much in the first half of the episode. In the immortal words of Russel Crowe: ''Are you not entertained?''
@patriciataylor7525
@patriciataylor7525 10 ай бұрын
"If you think this has a happy ending you haven't been paying attention."
@Alejojojo6
@Alejojojo6 10 ай бұрын
Its called fulfilled promises in Literature. At least the main protagonist need a satisfying end. This wasnt.
@imanis.h.8431
@imanis.h.8431 9 ай бұрын
I don’t mind unhappy endings if it makes sense and are aligned with the plot buildup. Ned’s death, red wedding, shireen’s death were all (extremely) depressing moments but it was a possible outcome that are aligned with the plot and character choices at that time. Dany triggered by a bell killing hundreds of innocents and bran becoming king are not. If they spend more time building up Dany’s mental breakdown, I don’t think people will have a problem with it as much as they did.
@davidgorman994
@davidgorman994 10 ай бұрын
Varys did betray Dany, and she did tell him she'd kill him if he betrayed her. Don't have a problem with that. I liked Drogon getting revenge , even with his upgrades. Other than that though...
@blackpearl3969
@blackpearl3969 3 ай бұрын
im late but after everything Dany went through and everything she lost she is still my Queen, she should have ruled. They ruined her but not in many hearts
@demongawl
@demongawl 10 ай бұрын
After the final you should react to the cast talking about season 8 and their reaction at the script read “BeSt SeAsOn EvEr” 😂
@crystalk98
@crystalk98 6 ай бұрын
I was ESTATIC when the bells were rung.....but then my joy turned to ashes in my mouth lol....
@tapdancr
@tapdancr 10 ай бұрын
There’s an amazing bit of CleganeBowl foreshadowing by Arya. At one point she tells the Hound, “Someday, I’m going to put a sword through your eye and out the back of your skull.” Which is the last thing the Hound tries with the Mountain before jumping out of the Keep with his brother. I always thought the way they shot the Mountain getting stabbed was just for the wow factor until watching your 3x9 reaction and hearing her say that line again and have been waaiiiiting for this episode to drop the comment 😂. LOVE YOUR REACTIONS, you’re both so hilarious and relatable ❤❤
@prico3358
@prico3358 10 ай бұрын
I have to be fair. Upon rewatch, every character knew off screen exactly what she was going to do. The viewer is suprised, but if you noticed, everyone in the episode knew.
@Raminagrobisfr
@Raminagrobisfr 10 ай бұрын
funny to think that Qyburn's scorpions, with dragonglass tips, would have ended the night's king in a minutes at winterfell
@Daldir
@Daldir 10 ай бұрын
I would've done the same thing as Dany, but WAY sooner lmao
@boxmulla
@boxmulla 10 ай бұрын
Yeah me too
@idakev
@idakev 10 ай бұрын
You would have burnt civilians? Nah, just go for the Red Keep
@42_BAmBI
@42_BAmBI 10 ай бұрын
should've done the second day she set foot to Dragonstone
@reginaphalange30
@reginaphalange30 10 ай бұрын
A lot of the same civilians who were happy and screaming for Ned Starks head.
@jaybird8192
@jaybird8192 10 ай бұрын
@@reginaphalange30So you think the civilians deserved to get burned alive? Did they know he was not a traitor of the realm??? No! As far as they knew, he was a confessed traitor! Many Dany fans are really blinded!
@CSC52698
@CSC52698 10 ай бұрын
Ser Jaime Lannister did some horrible things. He himself knows he's not a saint. I do believe he had honour like Ned Stark, because after he lost his hand he became more humble and a favourite to many as well as myself. The only Lannister from King's Landing to aid the living at Winterfell, looked out for Tyrion, saved Brienne. He did good things. My heart broke losing Ser Jorah, Lord Beric, and the Hound. Ser Jaime's death hurt so much more on so many different levels. He was a good man. And he died the way he wanted to, in the arms of the woman he loved.
@braedonhaymackenzie538
@braedonhaymackenzie538 10 ай бұрын
you guys make my mental health much better honestly theres days you have saved my life with your humour you are incredlible people and talk about your channel all the time
@havok6280
@havok6280 10 ай бұрын
The bells will have much more significance in the books most likely... A book character had a traumatic experience involving bells during Robert's Rebellion and that could play a role in the battle for King's Landing.
@Steve-eh4db
@Steve-eh4db 10 ай бұрын
Wait another 12 years.
@Icy_815
@Icy_815 9 ай бұрын
To this day I don't see what Dany did as madness. Her entire world was literally dying around her. Her enemy killed her best friend and her DRAGON. Her allies are spreading secrets about her and threatening her entire purpose of being in Westeros. Grief and betrayal. Anyone with a dragon under their ass would do the same. Hell, some people would've done worse
@josceola8979
@josceola8979 9 ай бұрын
Worse how? Kill their own army? She already killed an entire city of innocents who had nothing to do with preventing her from taking her precious Iron Throne. She could've just went straight to the castle and ended Cersei in minutes but she chose to "burn them all."
@Icy_815
@Icy_815 7 ай бұрын
@@josceola8979 ppl have done far worse within the history of asoiaf, yall are just yapping
@Laurasaurus666
@Laurasaurus666 10 ай бұрын
Sometimes I feel like I was the only person watching GoT that wanted Dany to fall and become The Mad Queen 😅 so many people seemed upset that she snapped
@kellysowhat88
@kellysowhat88 10 ай бұрын
If you pay attention it’s the only thing that makes sense, she’s heading in that direction the whole time. All her big scenes people cheer her on for, she’s doing objectively horrific things whether they are to “bad” people or not. For example leaving Dorea and Xaro in the empty vault to starve in Quarth. That’s vicious. Watching the Dorthaki horse lords all burn to death in front of her as she stood in the the room unable to burn until the doors fell in Vaes Dathak. Crucifying the masters without knowing the dynamics of who was responsible and who wasn’t. Again, showing she didn’t understand the culture of the place she’d come to just like when she comes to Westeros. There are so many more instances.
@jasonhoagland8444
@jasonhoagland8444 10 ай бұрын
Me too. I knew by the end of season one she would do it. I would have been disappointed if Dany hadn't burned the city. They've been consistently building her character in that direction the whole series.
@Steven-eh2lv
@Steven-eh2lv 10 ай бұрын
I too thought she would become the villain and was excited for it. The only complaint I have is that season 8 wasn't long enough or divided into 2 seasons.
@valerievaysman3993
@valerievaysman3993 10 ай бұрын
i dont have a problem with her becoming mad, but i have a problem with the way writers rushed it
@Steven-eh2lv
@Steven-eh2lv 10 ай бұрын
@@valerievaysman3993 yep maybe season 8 being all about the war in the north and a season 9 with the fall of dany. But we got what we got and I'd rather have that than nothing :)
@canceltheapocalypse8190
@canceltheapocalypse8190 10 ай бұрын
Jamie and Cersei, Danny going mad, Grey Worm killing without remorse, Clegane Bowl-many characters ended up being who they were from the start.
@downunderrob
@downunderrob 10 ай бұрын
Daenarys is the victim of crap writing, nothing more. She has been betrayed, lost her best friends, her best advisors, two of her children and so many of her soldiers. So now she is on the way to becoming what Olena Tyrell urged her to be. A Dragon. So don't judge her harshly. And think of the hundreds of thousands of freed slaves in Essos. What will become of them without the Breaker of Chains. The one, the only, Dragon Queen. 'Fire and Blood.'
@astrafaan
@astrafaan 3 ай бұрын
totally agree
@N7Valentine
@N7Valentine 10 ай бұрын
I suppose they tried to show that, along with Missandei, the last drop of Danny's humanity died. Still, it's a cheap resource to turn her into the villain.
@cyntee79
@cyntee79 10 ай бұрын
It took me some years after the show to gain perspective on Jamie. I was sooooo pissed at him for leaving Brienne standing in the cold in a HOUSECOAT! So very mad. But then I thought about it. Brienne taught him loyalty and honor. That learned lesson is why he came to Winterfell even after Cersei copped out. Even though we hate to see him leave Brienne that way, ultimately, he was honoring the vows he’d always said to Cersei. I think he went back to Cersei more out of duty but he actually loved Brienne.
@BrienneoffrigginTarth8888
@BrienneoffrigginTarth8888 10 ай бұрын
I agree. I think he also knows Brienne will be fine on her own (although I did picture a wonderful future for Brienne and Jamie). Cersei, on the other hand, is alone, vulnerable and will likely die. He wants to be by her side. Maybe hopes to save her. But al least he wants to be by her side if she dies.
@homeiswhereukeepurdealtho
@homeiswhereukeepurdealtho 10 ай бұрын
sorry for not joining the ride babes, but trust me ive watched so many reactors eat this show FULLY. a lot of them, like a LOT lot. and i got fed up, especially with the downfall of it all. but damn it if i wasnt going to chip in to this one and check ur pretty faces. love u two to deathhh
@EdmontonRealEstate01
@EdmontonRealEstate01 10 ай бұрын
Varys was going to have her poisoned. That’s why she had him burned to death, even though she should have been killed.
@krichardj
@krichardj 10 ай бұрын
All her advisors dead, disloyal, or withdrawn she punished those she saw as enemies. For reference look to Dresden, Hamburg, Nagasaki, Hiroshima, Carthage, etc. imagine how all those parents who named their daughters, Kaleesi.
@chunglu
@chunglu 10 ай бұрын
some reactions to this episode have always been funny to me. dany has been burning people alive and torching cities for seasons, but suddenly it's shocking? the only difference now is you see it from the ground, not the dragon, and the people she's roasting aren't all faceless background characters or underdeveloped moustache-twirling villains. she's been on-board with conquering/murdering people since she got aroused listening to her warlord husband vow to do just that back in s1, and people still believed her the good guy? the woman with a god complex who believes she's owed adoration, as a foreign invader, and who was only kept in check by advisors? they think this was sudden? wild lol
@Melodicroger
@Melodicroger 10 ай бұрын
Nah, it wasn’t her turning bad. It was a sloppy means to do a shocking moment. She was brutal and ruthless to serve goals that she wanted (eg, burning the witch, Astapoor, etc). This was killing a city at the point of total victory for what exactly? Cuz she wasn’t welcomed? C’mon, she stopped sexual violence of Greyjoys and tried to save children. This was just lazy rushed writing…it woulda been mad cool if they did a Walter White level heel turn but the showrunners weren’t built for it.
@chunglu
@chunglu 10 ай бұрын
@@Melodicroger it wasn't shocking, that was my point, but i'm not going to debate you about it
@SerbAtheist
@SerbAtheist 10 ай бұрын
@@Melodicroger 'She was brutal and ruthless to serve goals that she wanted (eg, burning the witch, Astapoor, etc).' Ah, okay, so as long as you WANT stuff, then it's okay to be brutal and ruthless towards other people. 'This was killing a city at the point of total victory for what exactly? ' The answer is simple, nasty and obvious: So that no one dare challenge her ever again.
@Melodicroger
@Melodicroger 10 ай бұрын
@@SerbAtheist that would be your interpretation bc it certainly wasn’t shown on her face when she “flipped” bc bells. I don’t mind a dark turn but the show didn’t put in the work. I appreciate the perspective but the majority of how the conclusion of the series was handled was so spectacularly negative it led to the show runners have a full career reset.
@SerbAtheist
@SerbAtheist 10 ай бұрын
This episode is the ultimate FU to people who revel in cruelty. It's very indicative that after 8 seasons of this show carefully showing us how not every 'good guy' is good and not every 'bad guy' is bad, people still have the gall to cheer at the sight of conscripted soldiers being burned alive whose only crime was being an adult male at the wrong time and place and defending their city from a foreign invader. 'Oh, it's soldiers, they're supposed to die.' Oh, okay! I guess that means reveling in their death and having no empathy whatsoever is the completely appropriate response! But then of course when Dany turns her ire to the 'innocent' everyone huffs and puffs indignantly. 'But it's just a show.' Yes, it's 'just a show' (so why are you foaming at the mouth so much at the final season then?), but it's astounding how much people carry over this attitude in real life. It's this belief that violence can be so compartmentalized which leads to so much war and suffering. 'Oh, let's go to war as our first option! We'll only get the bad guys and be greeted as liberators! We'll limit our 'collateral damage''.... funny how it almost NEVER works out this way!
@DavidCarradinesBelt
@DavidCarradinesBelt 10 ай бұрын
Youre only virtue signaling because youre a Dany hater
@SerbAtheist
@SerbAtheist 10 ай бұрын
@@DavidCarradinesBelt Yeah, I'm a Dany hater, guilty as charged! I hate power-hungry sociopaths with a messianic complex.
@chunglu
@chunglu 10 ай бұрын
@@DavidCarradinesBelt you're only crying because you're a christina columbus dragon barbie stan. tragic.
@karennarvaez-pacheco1547
@karennarvaez-pacheco1547 10 ай бұрын
At first I was going to comment on Varys and why he deserved what he got. Then I was going to talk about Dany and why it all went down the way it did. But I see other comments have made my points so I’ll talk about Jon instead. Jon has NEVER wanted to be king of ANYTHING. Even before he went to Dragonstone, even before he met Dany. The ppl of Winterfell named him King. He never lobbied for it, never asked for it, never wanted it. All he wanted was to serve his ppl and he served as best he could. His aversion to ruling has nothing to do with his “undying love” for Dany. His feelings for her ceased romantically the moment he found out they were related. He wasn’t raised to sleep with his family members. It was never going to work out for them. The show runners should have let the show play out at its normal pace, then maybe some of what happened would make more sense to ppl. But unfortunately they had other projects and were in a hurry to finish GOT. They let the story slip out from under them. Due to how horrific these last two seasons were, especially the last one, they didn’t get to work on their projects anyway. Ofc they didn’t think about that, just like they didn’t think about how all of this would look to us - the fans. It was very selfish of them and I’ll never forgive them for it.
@alexhaas9653
@alexhaas9653 10 ай бұрын
Already episode 5? You guys keep 'em coming fast. Thank you! This episode sees the the death of my favourite character of the show. Sandor Clegane - The Hound. I wish he would have made it out alive. But we all knew that he was destined to die - at least he finally took revenge on his brother. It was also sad to see Varys go out like that. It was still an entertaining episode of course. But: Daenerys turning bad was not a suprise. But as many others said before: It was just rushed and came too sudden - they needed to pack the whole transition in only a few episodes. It would be alright if played out a bit longer and smoother. I also didn't like it to be so inconsistent. Suddenly Eurons fleet was an easy target - after being unbeatable with two dragons. Now easy task with only one. And suddenly all the Scorpions were useless...
@stephenball2108
@stephenball2108 10 ай бұрын
I know it’s not a popular opinion, but Jaime and Cersei got a good death for their characters. They deserved a nice scene in the end for 8 seasons of being the best and most consistently interesting characters on the show
@YenellyT
@YenellyT 9 ай бұрын
I feel like if jon did what varys wanted and tried to take the throne dany would have still done this lmao, there was no stopping her no matter what jon did
@NassersReviews
@NassersReviews 10 ай бұрын
While it was definitely rushed, Daenerys going crazy always made sense to me. She’s way too entitled for her own sake. Starks for life!
@randolphothegreat549
@randolphothegreat549 10 ай бұрын
I totally agree, most of the final season made sense. It was a bit " rushed" but die hard fans always feel it's rushed of any final season as they don't want their show to end. Also love your channel.
@TheNeonParadox
@TheNeonParadox 10 ай бұрын
Facts. That was one of the few creative decisions I actually defended. The seeds were there since early season 7. Plus she's a Targaryen in the end.
@cinevore358
@cinevore358 10 ай бұрын
There's no reasons for her at that moment to burn the people of King's Landing.
@tonismith3707
@tonismith3707 10 ай бұрын
​@TheNeonParadox the seeds where almost from the beginning.😊
@salem8092
@salem8092 10 ай бұрын
No ❤
@reverbscherzo7850
@reverbscherzo7850 Ай бұрын
Cercei saying "the Red Keep is the safest place in the city" is just like when Janos Slynt said "there's no such thing as giants".
@jayyiri4666
@jayyiri4666 10 ай бұрын
She had every right to go mad and go after that city. She did everything she was supposed to do just for people to take advantage of her and use her. You should watch the fan made part where she is looking around when the bells ring. It makes so much sense
@josceola8979
@josceola8979 9 ай бұрын
Yeah all those women and children who had nothing to do with the war of those assholes in power got exactly what they deserved. How dare they exist in the middle of their squabble for power and greed.
@AleksandrePertaia
@AleksandrePertaia 10 ай бұрын
Mad King: burn them all Daenerys: say no more
@miskbalder
@miskbalder 10 ай бұрын
Me and many others saw Daenerys slow progress into madness and had been waiting for her to snap since at least the third season.. I couldn't believe how so many were just waiting for her to rule as a fair queen, she was just slowly becoming crazy as f GoT is too realistic for her to just out of the blue get cured of her mental illness, part of me of course hoped she would but I still loved the way it played out and it is the reason I loved GoT, because it is brutally honest, "Truth is stranger than fiction" (even though this is fiction) 😂 Please make a last guess at who u think will be on the iron throne before u watch the finale 🙂
@RenataChemindeOliveira
@RenataChemindeOliveira 10 ай бұрын
YES YES YES!!
@imanis.h.8431
@imanis.h.8431 9 ай бұрын
I think most people know Dany has violent and cruel tendencies even before her dragon was born. What the showrunners did wrong is the execution. They didn’t spend enough time to show her shift in moral and character, yes she was cruel but only to those who she thinks deserve it. One of her defining characteristics was her not wanting to be called a mad ruler like her father. It’s not a matter of what that we’re upset about it’s a matter of how.
@YenellyT
@YenellyT 9 ай бұрын
agree! Ever since season 3 I was like ummm yeah she's not gonna be all good and just like she wants to be, I believe she had good intentions at first, but I agree it was def not random! Rewatching the show we had sooo many hints
@omarxxalsaidi5506
@omarxxalsaidi5506 10 ай бұрын
Everything deserves to🔥🔥🔥☄
@x-traordinary5760
@x-traordinary5760 7 ай бұрын
idc, dany will never be the villain to me. I'm sorry I get burning EVERYTHING was excessive, but I get it she tried so hard not to give into her worst impulsies, but mfs f around and found out. Also, I feel like if they didn't kill masondae then she would have kept to cool. im with her sorry
@jinxysaberk
@jinxysaberk 2 ай бұрын
the person that murders innocent people after the bell of surrender and fight was already won will never be the villain to you? You do realise she literally committed more war crimes than any of character? Supporting her is as bad as saying walter white is the hero
@gastongaliano4976
@gastongaliano4976 10 ай бұрын
F*ck Kings Landing, they are allo followers of Cersei's reign. Daenerys has all the reasons to destroy the city. Also you can watch explotions of wild fire (Cersei planned to destroy the city herself) Cersei destroyed the sept and big part of the city when she killed Margaery, also killed Highgarden when they attacked Olennas. Just have to be ruthless to defeat another ruthless person.
@rhiannongreen2642
@rhiannongreen2642 10 ай бұрын
The wildfire is left over from Dany's dad - he had the stashed all over
@blissinchains
@blissinchains 10 ай бұрын
@@rhiannongreen2642 Who was the only alive in the most current timeline to use it? Cersei. Not Dany. Not her father.
@jay-7379
@jay-7379 10 ай бұрын
Dany did what she had to do. As for her going mad, you can only lose so much and be betrayed so much before going crazy. She embraced the Dragon. Also Arya’s plot armor is so dumb. How does she not die there. Makes no sense
@courtneylconover80
@courtneylconover80 10 ай бұрын
What she always planned on doing from the beginning - ignoring everyone telling her not to kill the people she believed were complicit - and going full Mad King, burning them all. As she's said she intended since season 2. Repeatedly.
@Wicked_Sushi
@Wicked_Sushi 10 ай бұрын
Great idea (her turn to The Mad Queen); horrendous execution. What was originally a painstakingly crafted series was screwed over by speed run to the finish line.
@b-six-twelve
@b-six-twelve 10 ай бұрын
In my headcanon the Hound survives the fight with his brother, gives up violence and becomes a foul-mouthed priest like Brother Ray and Thoros.
@luvleyjae
@luvleyjae 10 ай бұрын
The hound tru the mountain in the fire this time Lady Oleena was right “Cersi would be the death of you”
@parm2-x7h
@parm2-x7h 10 ай бұрын
moral of the story , absolute power corrupts .. it didnt matter who was on iron throne , it was about to happen .
@philhayes1420
@philhayes1420 10 ай бұрын
I would have been fine with the Mad Queen arc, but season 8 was so rushed that it didn't work as welll as it should have. Night king done in a single episode, Dany turning into the Mad Queen in a single episode. Everyone seemingly having teleportation powers, because of the rushed season. There should have been 2 more seasons at least.
@MykeB200
@MykeB200 10 ай бұрын
Dany and Varys swore to each other in season 7 that if he betrays and Plots against Dany, “she’ll burn him alive” like Ned stark said, the man who passes the sentence shall swing the sword. Which Dany did. Plus Varys tried to poison her, that why the little girl was saying “she won’t eat” and Varys, “we will try again tomorrow, greater risk greater reward”. how is Dany supposed to be “stable” when all her advisors are committing treason, including Tyrion and Jon
@courtneylconover80
@courtneylconover80 10 ай бұрын
Because SHE was the vile usurper, telling the real heir to the throne to shut up about his parentage so SHE could take all the power that was never hers to begin with. All she ever gave a shit about was that damn chair. Just like Cersei.
@LuizVieiraPintoNeto
@LuizVieiraPintoNeto 10 ай бұрын
Inside the Red Keep there is another moated fortress called Maegor Holdfast. It is a castle within a castle.
@IslandpferdeHaukagil
@IslandpferdeHaukagil 10 ай бұрын
Everybody being mad about the bells ringing to mean surrender: have you ever thought about that Tyrion wanted to let them ring the bells, cause he knew they might ring them anyway for "city under siege" even though the surrender-message didn't go through? Either way it was supposed to make Dany think the City surrendered, no matter for what reason the bells were ringing.
@alexking988
@alexking988 10 ай бұрын
The Greyjoys kinda forgot how to aim with the scorpions this episode
@loicsauvage8904
@loicsauvage8904 10 ай бұрын
It is true it's difficult to explain why Daenerys massacred everyone when she could have simply flown straight towards Cersei and killed only her For Tyrion who betrayed Varys, in fact it was already suggested in the previous episode that Varys intended to kill Daenerys because he considered her dangerous. At the beginning of this episode, when Varys is talking to the little girl who works in the kitchen, it's implied Varys wanted to poison Daenerys. This is why Tyrion decided to report Varys to Daenerys, because at that moment, he remained convinced Daenerys was going to do what was right but obviously, that was not the case
@SerbAtheist
@SerbAtheist 10 ай бұрын
Difficult? Half the people truly wanted to do the same after the end of E4. It's not difficult at all. The only thing that is difficult to explain is how much people ignored Dany's red flags for so long. Main hero syndrome at it's finest.
@harshahir3176
@harshahir3176 10 ай бұрын
Yeah it's always difficult to interpret bad writing with logic love
@Aaniel_al.Meara.
@Aaniel_al.Meara. 10 ай бұрын
@@SerbAtheist FINALLY SOMEONE SAID THAT.
@nightfrost1891
@nightfrost1891 10 ай бұрын
no because she heard bells and had to go crazy because it's some trigger of hers suddenly LOLOLOLOL
@MrBuzzcake
@MrBuzzcake 10 ай бұрын
Which red flags? When she crucified 150 slavers (some of whom were innocent, which sheacknowledged) or when she abandoned her quest for the throne to save the world? How do you go from that to murdering half a million innocents after having won? People who try to rationalize Danys sudden turn has to be some of the smuggest and dumbest people alive, claiming to have seen some "red flags" everyone else has been to stupid to see. She goes from freeing and helping innocents for 6 seasons to burning half a million innocents for NO reason, its horrible writing and a horrible ending, stop trying to defend it@@SerbAtheist
@tobe1207
@tobe1207 10 ай бұрын
My only reasoning for jon is that 1 he's very tired from the last 6 seasons,he already won his war and doesn't care about the lesser war. And 2, he did give his word,and doesn't play politics.
@Wraiven22
@Wraiven22 10 ай бұрын
Jesus I thought people were exaggerating with Jon being made into a “My Queen” voice box, but no… it’s literally all he says for like 3 episodes straight lmao
@chunglu
@chunglu 10 ай бұрын
he basically became a plot device. an npc repeating the same few phrases over and over.
@johncarpenter3751
@johncarpenter3751 10 ай бұрын
Everyone forgot the prophecy for told in the beginning of season three when the witch told a young Circe, that her three children were gonna die, and then a younger queen was going to take her place, and everybody assumed it was Marjorie but it turns out it was Daenerys
@MMKOCH200
@MMKOCH200 10 ай бұрын
True. Curious to see what happens on the books with the Valenqar part since it wasn’t part of the show.
@tjkrueger2655
@tjkrueger2655 10 ай бұрын
They've been foreshadowing this the entire series, and teased it in Bran's visions and even Dany's warlock-induced dream. So many conversations about avoiding her father's tendencies. She realized she was alone and unloved in the place she felt entitled to rule, and refused to waver. She should have just stayed in her pyramid
@kellysowhat88
@kellysowhat88 10 ай бұрын
She’d spent her entire life is Essos she didn’t understand the ways of Westeros or understand the culture. She ruled well in Essos, because she understood it better. She was loved there, and should have stayed. She could have helped in the battle of the night king and realized her place wasn’t Westeros because it wasn’t her home.
@jakejones8032
@jakejones8032 10 ай бұрын
@@kellysowhat88 She ruled well in Essos? Let's see, Dany trusted a witch to cure Drogo, who had just destroyed that same witch's city. Ultimately, it got both Drogo and her unborn son killed. Great start Khaleesi. She threatened the "13" leaders to get into Qarth, and by the time she left all 13 were dead, and the city was being plundered. Strike two. She went to Astapor next and made a binding agreement, and then burned the guy and stole his army. Then has her dragons put the city to fire. She completely shit on their culture just because she doesn't agree with it. Pretty badass episode though right! Strike three. On to Yunkai, she conquers that one too. Leaves no military behind to police these cities, who's world she's just tossed upside down, just installed a new council and moves on? Slavery is bad, I get it, but this is how it's been for centuries in this region. Strike four. On to Meereen, and she conquers that as well. She has destroyed all of Slayers Bay and it's economy, which depended on slavery and gave zero direction how to fix it. The Sons of Harpy form and try to murder her. The city is in ruins when she leaves it. Great job. Strike five. She takes a side quest to Vaes Dothrak, ends up burning down their temple with all the Khals inside. Takes their whole army. Fair enough, good play. Dany is a conqueror, she has always been a conqueror. She was never a good Queen. Every city she has come across she leaves in ruins, and we cheer her for it. Yet somehow when she does it to King's Landing, we are shocked. King's Landing deserved it more than any of those other cities, let's be honest. Sometimes I wonder if I watched a different version of the show than the people who post on these videos.
@elliebelliewatermellie155
@elliebelliewatermellie155 10 ай бұрын
I’m watching the last video and noticing you guy uploaded again and I’m way too happy ! Thank you for doing this :)))
@mamakat114
@mamakat114 10 ай бұрын
Arya calling the Hound "Sandor" freaking makes me bawl like a baby
@Steve-eh4db
@Steve-eh4db 10 ай бұрын
They missed that in the edit. I thought it was the best part of the episode.
@derrisreaditbefore
@derrisreaditbefore 10 ай бұрын
Same.
@mamakat114
@mamakat114 10 ай бұрын
@Steve-eh4db me too. It totally completed their relationship.
@garethlawton5278
@garethlawton5278 10 ай бұрын
Maegor Targaryen was the third king of the Seven Kingdoms. Quite early on so the red keep was still taking shape. He is responsible the overseeing of building parts of the Red Keep and had a fortification constructed within the keep that got named Maegor's Holdfast. It is the safest place to be within the keep and throughout history played its part in being the last option for many important people in the histories. That is why Qyburn suggests waiting out "the storm" their coming executions there, it is where they would have the most time before capture and it's also well built and structurally safer than the outer edges of the castle. Reading the Fire and Blood book can teach you all about those eras of the Targaryen histories but if you don't want the plot of HotD to be expected then avoid reading its entirety as some later chapters cover the period of history that is set in.
@courtneylconover80
@courtneylconover80 10 ай бұрын
It's never easy to watch the show before reading the books. People get lost very quickly.
@quisthe3
@quisthe3 10 ай бұрын
This might be an unpopular opinion but i don’t blame Daenery for losing her shit. Originally i thought mental illiness ran through her family (which is still true) but she lost everything during this journey. & just for the record what she did was messed up. Im just saying i don’t blame her.
@kpednault
@kpednault 10 ай бұрын
Bran really frustrates me by not saying anything, but I also think that as the 3-eyed Raven he can't really interfere in people's choices, like when he told Jon it was his choice to tell his sisters or not. Also, the problem with Jon is that he is so obsessed with keeping his word (like Ned), that it's their downfall. His devotion to Dany is part love, part honouring his word. I also feel like Sandor's words to Arya brought back part of who she was before she became a ruthless killer, which I like. She is still badass, but also more herself.
@mamakat114
@mamakat114 10 ай бұрын
In a video of the table reading, the actor who plays Varys was PISSSSED when he learned how his character was going out
@TorgoMazing
@TorgoMazing 10 ай бұрын
Missandei's last words "Dracarys" Litterally burn it all to the ground. At that point Dany is alone. Even Jon wasn't there enough for Dany. She's lost so much. I reckon she lost her marbles as the bells rang because she realized just how easy it was for her to take Kings Landing with ONE dragon, and most of her army gone (thanks to the long night). She realized she sacrificed 2 dragons and those men all because she listened to Tyrion and Varys who were giving awful advice that cost them mega losses. Doesn't justify kings landing being destroyed in some peoples eyes i suppose... (i dont really care for the people of KL because both in the show and the books we see they're just a bunch of awful peasants. Literally awful.)
@rhiannongreen2642
@rhiannongreen2642 10 ай бұрын
Oh shit I never even thought of this! That's so true!
@aychelleff
@aychelleff 10 ай бұрын
I like that Jamie clearly fully understands who his sister is and chooses to go back to her. Really great writing, super in line with him as a character. I’m being sarcastic, btw
@generalmortars7557
@generalmortars7557 10 ай бұрын
I was WTFing throughout the first 3/4 of your post. :)
@Tysheengames
@Tysheengames 10 ай бұрын
I don't know about great writing.
@harryballsak1123
@harryballsak1123 10 ай бұрын
And you're wrong. Jaime was raised by a narcissistic father and had a narcissistic twin sister. And I guess you have bene lucky to not have these kind of people in your life. Jamie had bene mentally abused by both of them and finally basically everyone else. You've never heard of abused people leaving and going back to their abusers? Once again you have lived a charmed life
@christianmichael3120
@christianmichael3120 10 ай бұрын
Absolutely in line with his character lol
@aychelleff
@aychelleff 10 ай бұрын
@@harryballsak1123great message to ultimately close out with, huh? That addiction is a defining, insurmountable flaw? I’m again, being sarcastic, and as someone who understands addiction and the detriment of how it’s written/presented, you are absolutely living a “charmed” (and entirely media illiterate) life. Does it make sense for Jamie’s character? Probably. Is that the way they wrote it? Is that what everything we saw of him was leading to? No, it sure wasn’t. Hope that helps
@NoShiiitSherlock
@NoShiiitSherlock 10 ай бұрын
16:07 - At this juncture its alot less about making a plan that "will work," and ALOT more about using the last days of your life to try to do WHATS RIGHT - WHATS MORAL. Varys understood the same.
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