We went to the Farmer's Protest

[@zoeathomson4305]

You're a very good speaker ❤ Stay strong farmers millions are with you 🥰💪

[@GreenSaxon]

@@zoeathomson4305 Millions just want them to pay IHT like the rest of us too.

[@laurenceannett7107]

Northern Ireland had 6000+ farmers on Monday night at rally

[@GreenSaxon]

and if the DUP hadn't enabled a Tory government the UK wouldn't be in the position it is now.

[@vilhelmgrasbonde]

I’m a farmer from Sweden and have been following the developments in the UK closely. I was listening to callers on the James O’Brian radio show and was frankly shocked at the attitude and sentiment most people seem to have for farmers in the UK. It shows that people have completely missed a very basic truth in our economy: land is the only productive factor, and all wealth ultimately comes from the land’s ability to generate surplus. Not labor and capital as Adam Smith would have us believe. agriculture is the key to national prosperity, and that any economic activity based on land (such as farming) directly contributes to the creation of wealth. Labor without energy(ie food) is a corpse and technology/capital without energy is a sculpture (ie unable to do any meaningful work/production). (Steve Keen) While listening to the debates it struck me that this is really about two different things. For the farmers it’s about survival and for the general public it’s a question of equality and sharing the tax burden that keeps services going. Farmers feel they are already doing something that contributes to the commons while most people don’t see that at all. If farmers instead showed they were willing to have other taxes increased as a replacement for this tax to fund the NHS i think that would helped people not get stuck in demonizing them so much. For example a land value tax-a tax levied directly on the value or productive potential of the land-rather than a tax on the transfer of wealth between generations. taxing land directly, based on its fertility or productivity, would be a fairer and more efficient way to ensure that landowners contribute to the state without discouraging agricultural production or the transfer of land to heirs. It’s interesting to watch this unfold from the side lines but I do really feel for you guys. Here in Sweden we have no inheritance tax and farmers are usually seen to have an important role in society. And yes, please, make an effort to stay away from opportunistic politicians like Farage and public figures like Clarksson. It muddles the sense of genuine authenticity farmers need to gain good faith and connection with the public. Hope this all works out for you guys. Keep on going 💪

[@essexagri13]

What an incredible and accurate summary of the situation here at the moment…

[@studentaviator3756]

Thank you for your concern for British farmers. I am not a farmer but I am a countryside boy who lives near to plenty of farmers. I'd like to comment a few things. James o brien is a spiteful little man that does not represent most people. Clarkson on the other hand has done a huge amount to raise the profile of farming in the eyes of the general public. He does done more for farming than any other media personality in this entire country. What is more, he claims to have gone to this protest against DRs orders. I would say his sympathy is genuine and he taking a dangerous stance supporting these protests. I appreciate though your analysis and observations have a nice day.

[@Liberty-Jamie]

It's vile, isn't it. Them liberals are evil communists. We can't have democracy with socialists. They are destroying our society. They want to seize the property fo the farmers. They want us all to live like the USSR.

[@nickbarber2080]

Take the UK as a warning...Sweden will be going down the same road,just as Holland was ahead of us. Be warned and prepare your response....

[@sookibeulah9331]

How would the 30% of farmers who didn’t make a profit last year pay a land value tax? Your proposal still taxes high value assets that only generate a 1% (at most) return if it is being used to produce food.

[@sandysteel3659]

You're the best spokesman for farming, not a word wrong. Educated and grounded, a very unusual combination in this Bs country. i loved all your nuance about politicians, the bbc and clarkson who did buy his farm to avoid inheritance tax, a bit of a liar and a hypocrite, hard to find anyone wealthy and powerful who isn't

[@essexagri13]

This video needs to be shared far and wide… you absolutely nailed every single key point in the frustrations of every family farm up and down the country, I hope this video gets the views and traction it deserves, I take my hat off to you 🤝🏻

[@RadgieGadgey-bx8mc]

I'm throwing it all over facebook but it's just a url in comments section and one share, your too right the world needs to see this video let's get it out there.

[@helenyoung8012]

Very well put. At the end of the day we all have to eat. I feel that if people had to go out into the fields to find their next meal they would not have the time to sit around and cause all these divisions in our society. So pleased that yesterday went so well and that the press were not able to divide the farmers and stir up trouble. I Enjoy your talks. I am a late farmer’s daughter, who died still farming at the age of 87 seven years ago.

[@GreenSaxon]

Thinking Clarkson shooting his mouth off about land ownership and tax avoidance caused yet more division in society myself... and there you all are applauding the plastic farmer as his large head explodes because his little scheme has been rumbled and he's being made to cough up like the rest of us.

[@jameskoss]

Identify farmers by their limp really made me pause. That's horrible! This is always what happens to "heroes". Used up until nothing is left, smeared with empty words of praise.

[@morozovdenisss]

You are the first person out of all videos I watched about this law who made the whole issue clear and easy to understand.

[@ianlobb3749]

Thank you, that was a very fair explanation of the issues. I am also a farmer and I feel that we were stabbed in the back by the conservative trade deals and now stabbed in the front by labours tax proposals.

[@CharlesYeo-qs6nb]

The EU has done a free trade deal with New Zealand and Ukraine that would is as bad as any trade deal the Tories did.

[@raquetdude]

@@CharlesYeo-qs6nbleast they aren’t laughing in our faces like the Aussies did cause of how crap the deal was. Regarding Ukraine I agree but tbf also think that farmers would like fertiliser and gas/oil prices to go down so if that means Ukrainian grain coming in so be it. Rather have that than a flood of American mass produce crap that’s all from even larger giant corporations

[@CharlesYeo-qs6nb]

@@raquetdude The Australian deal was taken from the New Zealand EU lamb trade deal, they swapped the words New Zealand with Australia and the words Lamb with Beef and the tonnage of 80,000 tonnes to 275,000 tonnes and as the UK import 300,000 tonnes of beef from Ireland per year.

[@KingDeadMan]

Looks like the UK is dealing with the same stuff as the US. Our government officials were handed their lives of comfort, unlike most citizen- therefore, they lack awareness of how anything works & aren't qualified for their jobs. Best wishes, from the dumb Country that is currently FAAFO. ❤😭👍

[@LuTubuMeu]

"You can always tell who's a farmer when you're out in the public because farmers will have a slight limp"....this is true all around the World. I confirm from Italy!lol. Good luck from a fellow farmer to y'all from Italy!

[@malkomalkavian]

That opening speech delivered to the NFU demonstrates a capacity for deception that cannot be healthy.

[@konradvonschnitzeldorf6506]

Eh he seemed kinda genuine. People tend to forget that politicians aren't a single entity trying to hold you down, but people with weaknesses, interests and ideas. Not a hivemind.

[@malkomalkavian]

@@konradvonschnitzeldorf6506 It was the fact that he seemed genuine which is worrying.

[@seanscanlon-i8z]

Well said, your video explains perfectly what is going to happen to family farms up and down the country. I was on the march, my father is 82, I have worked on the farm for nearly 40 years, I am very worried about my future and my sons future. Keep going with the videos I wish those in government had your level of intelligence and understanding of this subject.

[@janetcohen9190]

This video about farmers is demostrating another example of, "The greatest enemies will hide in the last place you would ever look." - Julius Caesar

[@sookibeulah9331]

Does the Chancellor think that farmers have special relationship skills so they can beat the statistic of 42% of British marriages ending in divorce? Is she also not aware that 38% of working farmers are over 65 years old so there’s a greater likelihood of them being windowed, whilst still running a business, than the rest of the working population whom typically retire at 65.

[@austinmetro6317]

Irish farmers support you 😊

[@TransportSupremo]

Too right. One and the same.

[@ericmurray1679]

You've communicated the issue in the best way I've seen all week. Facts, figures and a neutral political position. I am a farm worker and not in line to inherit anything but I can see all the indirect impacts on the horizon. It's also frustrating feeling so undervalued and looked down upon by much of society.

[@oldmcdonald6319]

Have to keep reminding myself that comments on the Internet are likely from a small minority

[@BenStevenson-c4z]

I’ve been a Labour 🌹Supporter my Adult Life We must invest £ in Agriculture and Back British 🇬🇧 Farmers 🚜♥️

[@JulieAdams-td4xx]

Brilliant video. Well done 🚜🇬🇧🚜🇬🇧🚜🇬🇧🚜🇬🇧💪🏼

[@shaunrobins8000]

Brilliant Video explaining the details what so many keep missing. We had a great day in London on the 19th with you and it was a welcome relief to see the support we had in the pub afterwards by the London folk 🙏

[@davejazz2424]

Just seen you on GB News. It was an outstanding interview whilst you were on the demonstration. I would like to nominate you to run the NFU!! They need someone with vision and guts to take this forward. I can’t stand the sight and sound of Two Tier and the thief Reeves! Stay strong.

[@zoeathomson4305]

We are being cancelled out. Wow I agree with you. Every word is true. ❤

[@archieslattery9414]

It was lovely meeting you yesterday mate, let’s hope to meet again soon

[@johnhyde8892]

Us farmers have got to put the pressure on now, and i understand that plans are being arranged!!

[@floydblandston108]

Here in 'NEW' England (USA) there's a method we use in high 'alternate use potential' areas to preserve working farmland; we separate the development value from the current land value, and sell it as a security. The farmer is then taxed at 'use' value, and the holder of the development rights has an open (and sole) future option to purchase the land at its fair market value and subsequently build on it. This is very attractive to insurance companies, REIT's, and other entities looking for the sort of long term capital investment opportunities their asset structures require, while preserving the economic, ecological, aesthetic, and social benefits found in an actively managed agricultural environment.

[@SimonApsud]

Thanks for telling us. Many farms here in the UK situated on the outskirts of towns - that are wanting to develop and expand - are naturally worth more, per acre. They'll get higher IHT values than, say, a bog half way up a mountain in the middle of nowhere. I'll copy your post onto The Farming Forum. There are a few activists who lobby MPs who might look into it.

[@dexterbeef1132]

Missed you. yesterday... 😉 I'd liked to have bought you a beer in 'spoons afterwards. Horrible day, but a fantastic event, organised from scratch inside 10days. The lack of Politics was a real plus I felt....

[@certaintraveler8284]

I was there on Tuesday and also hated how it went from farmers sharing their issues to MPs trying to get us to believe their party cares. Yes we want more people standing up for us in parliament but honestly they didn't care before they thought they could win our vote and they won't care after. Also very much agree that the crowd sort of stopped caring at that part😂.

[@BarcombeBoy]

@@certaintraveler8284 Are you farmer then? Did you vote for Brexit? If so, you've brought this on yourself.

[@somebloke7647]

Can I ask what your specific solution for the tax loophole would be then. My suggestion (as someone with absolutely no qualifications on the matter) would be too with the land owners written consent create a form of land classification that would exist for owner occupier farms and cooperative farms where any planning permission for anything not related to farm maintenance would require a substantial payment to the government (IE the value of land that is being developed) that would be Permantly tide to the land. That way the value of farmland would absolutely tank. This would make it a poor investment for those that do not intend to work on it and potentially allow routes for those with vaguely normal incomes who wish to change career into farming the opportunity to buy land. You would need very strong assurances to the farmers that it would be a worthwhile sacrifice so potentially increased subsidies that were in some capacity triple locked or protected in exchange for the change of land use slash classification (again not familiar with the pure legal terms).

[@farmingexplained]

I would either scrap the threshold and give 100% exemptions to working farms (which would allow taxing of nice houses with 10 acres owned by rich people that are currently exempt) or raise the threshold so it only hits very large businesses. Although that said most are limited companies or in trust, and those things can't die so don't get taxed anyway

[@paulthompson8467]

Good video Ollie i attended the UFU rally in Lisburn and was amazed at the large turn out and felt that the farmers were all very united ps laughed when you said a farmer is easy to spot cause he has a limp that cause most of us need a new hip or knee joint 🤣 PPS nice Massey is she a 362or372

[@farmingexplained]

362! My dad hates it because he thinks it's unreliable but I quite like that it's mechanical, nice change from all the screens and lights in newer machines

[@TheObservantJew-gb8uc]

British and many EU farmers are now Kulaks. Eggs to be cracked in making new societies: Agribusiness, food importation, and suburbanization are now in order. Oli may become a professor, lawyer, NHS manager, or agribusiness manager. And he may have a vanity/hobby farm. But as a small farmer he is seen as a parasite. Sic transit.

[@ianduncan7189]

proper job Oli.......very valid point, farming, food and health are all directly linked. IHT at 20% etc on working farms is clearly one of the most ill-conceived financial decisions by any government (since selling the gold at rock bottom price and relinquishing responsibility and control of interest rates to the BoE) what % of food (and beer....that's very important!).....that is served in the Houses of Parliament...(for the Commons and the Aristos).....what % is British?

[@tomlangford1999]

Steve reed was my MP for a while and I met him a few times at Labour party meetings, so i can say with experience the man doesn't have a clue

[@daihatsudave6332]

Iht is too brought . Its needs to be more complex if they want to aim at rich people buying ground just to avoid tax . Another great video And i think we all appritiate you admitting you voted labour True people own up to there decision good or bad

[@CharlesYeo-qs6nb]

He is young and gullible he will learn a lot from this.

[@neilbucknell9564]

There's also one huge point that has been missed. Many of the large investors who have bought agricultural land in the last 50 years are not individuals. They are a mixture of insurance companies, institutions (like the Church Commissioners or Oxbridge Colleges) and companies established by wealthy investors (like Sir James Dyson or some of the shrewder landed estates). They do not "die", so do not pay IHT! The reason why they have bought large amounts of land, pushing the price well beyond the reach of working family farms, is not to shelter tax, but as a safe, low yielding, long term investment, with income from letting to working farmers, from any one of the considerable array of arrangements for farming, from farming in hand to partnerships or share farming, or from refurbishing and letting surplus agricultural buildings. There's also the prospect of possible windfall gains from the occasional large scale development opportunities. The latter are few and far between, as most planning policy has been against large-scale development outside urban areas and their fringes for decades, except new settlements, whose up-front infrastructure costs depress the price per acre substantially. The very low income yields from interest on cash during the long period after the 2008-9 financial crisis made this an even more attractive. If the government really wants to unlock some of this value it should put a recurring tax on agricultural land held as an investment by non-farmers, but this will still not catch the large scale investors who farm themselves, and it might also cause a few problems for the institutions who use agricultural land as a long term investment - with resulting lower yields for small life policy holders and pensioners, fewer church roofs repaired, and so on. if you really want to upset yourself, Oli, watch Richard J Murphy's You Tube video in which he seeks to explain why this will be good for you. He suggests that if everyone pays more for your produce, you will be able to afford to pay the tax. He ignores the fact that it is the poorest in society who spend the highest proportion of their income on food, and makes the entirely erroneous statement that the large supermarkets are high margin businesses, when surely anyone with any business nous should know that they are high turnover, low margin businesses. According to him the reduction in land prices that will result from the imposition of this tax that is not payable by corporate and institutional large landowners will benefit you. You lucky person - you will be driven into poverty to fund the tax charge and (if he is right) end up with an asset worth far less than the value upon which you paid the IHT. The problem my socialist friend is the old one. You are a modern Kulak, and socialist policies do not end well for Kulaks. While I have made the point that the left/right divide is increasingly irrelevant in the modern world, the old dog whistle politics survives. You wicked person, you will inherit over £1,000,000, you should be made to pay. It is just as daft and indefensible as the right's tropes against immigration, ignoring the need for labour when we have a birth rate below replacement level and where many do not want the hardship of some of the dirty, repetitive or hard physical jobs that still need to be done in our mechanised technological society. I've a suggestion. Tax the income of economists at a much higher level than the rest of us. They cause so much damage and distress, and have (in Murphy's case) cosy university sinecures or (in Reeves' case) nice wealthy donors to buy them treats. No-one will lose their livelihoods or struggle to afford to feed their families as a result of this "progressive" tax!

[@raquetdude]

Oh god that dudes economic video, it’s quite depressing honestly. would argue that it’s not due to it being “socialist” just poor understanding of rural life/ economy. Cutting subsidies for farming ain’t exactly left wing. The SRs were socialists and battled against the Soviets, they were the workers party that represented the majority of workers and farm labours in pre revolution Russia. It’s interesting reading up on non Bolshevik socialist / farmers groups that were around before the urban folk forced them to change. Anyways mostly agree with ur analysis

[@RobertGraves-k3g]

Good for you. Thank you for expressing these important thoughts so clearly.

[@bensear]

Unfortunately this is a direct result of massive landowners and private equity buying huge tracts of productive farmland, often not even cultivating this land. Farmers get a rough deal from the supermarkets as well as dependence on chemical companies who are jacking up.prices. without a socialist revolution maybe the best way forward for farmers right now is to sell direct to the consumer similar to riverford?

[@crown9413]

No it’s just government messing with the food again. Socialists are the problem and always sell us out. Kier was literally praising blackrock today.

[@pjr1023]

Another brilliant video. I was at the march too, and was close to the Reform presence and didn’t like it as felt it could give the perception of the day being a right wing event. The speakers and crowd gave me some optimism, but this was drained when I met with my local MP (I was involved in the NFU part as well). He’s a Labour MP, quite young, joined the Labour party aged 18 and this is clearly his career of choice. He knew absolutely nothing about farming. Everything was new to him, although he didn’t give much away as he seemed to have a trained poker face. Abstract concepts like intertwined relationships between farming, food security, consumer pricing and public health seemed too broad for him, and only understood in terms of numbers, like cells on a spreadsheet. As if, it’s possible to quantify a precise amount of acceptable human suffering. One insight I gathered was he seems to hold the principle of inheritance tax as a core belief, regardless of circumstances (even the £325k 0% limit is too high in his view…). We are dealing with some deeply entrenched ideology now, with no nuance, and will take a lot to change them. But we must persist.

[@stephenkramer7157]

I can be charitable and assume that this was a tax aimed at the aristocracy that went very wide of the mark. It sounds like the thing they need to tax is the selling of farms, instead. It also seems like Labour is stuck with a chicken or the egg problem: they don't understand or like farmers because farmers don't vote for Labour because Labour doesn't understand or like farmers.

[@CharlesYeo-qs6nb]

The budget moved capital gains tax from 18% to 24% to start on the 30 October 2024, you already pay a tax when you sell land they increased it 20%.

[@floydblandston108]

I love the comparison between UK farmers and France; everyone all queued up nicely and not a loaded manure spreader in sight!

[@flatheadV8]

I hope everyone who sees this sends the KZbin link to their MP.

[@cassieoz1702]

I heard the Chancellor (? i think) say that the IRS/tax authorities told her how few farms would be affected. Do they have capital values for the farming properties or (I would assume) just taxable income data? I dont care how many departmental acronyms have reassured them the figures are correct. This needs to be much more transparent.

[@andrewjones-productions]

The man (Starmer) speaks with a forked tongue! You, however, spoke incredibly well! As for Farage,. he's such an opportunist and he quickly twisted the issue to push his pet-topic of immigration. Whatever happens, farmers should avoid Reform as much as possible as once the public make the association, it will be manipulated and and twisted in the press and the farmers will end up losing their voice and a lot of public support. Farage is one of those wealthy people who likely owns land (I believe that at one point, he did own land in mid-Wales and might still do). The government should have simply closed the loophole of non-farmers owning land for tax benefits. It is an utter disgrace how agriculture is treated in the UK.

[@cassieoz1702]

I think Ru at Flank Farm articulated an issue really well. That the 'divide' in thinking on this matter is between those who cannot see lnd as anything other than an investment (or developmeny potential), and frmers who hold it dearly as a perpetual, food producing nationl resource

[@VickiWilson-f2u]

Excellent video.

[@TonyCooke-z3q]

Thank you for your channel. I enjoy your output, it is very informative. This video was another high quality product. You are an effective voice for farming and have a thoughtful audience. In this video you made the vital point, which is not being made elsewhere, that the changes in inheritance tax (IT) fail to address the problem. The changes still leave land as a highly attractive asset class that enables the extremely wealthy to use it to avoid paying IT. Why pay 40% when you can pay 20%? It is the historic position of 0% rate IT that has been the main factor in the great inflation in agricultural land prices in the last 40 years. Two other critical factors to the business of farming are the low prices for products from farms and the distortion caused by grant aid. These have huge impact but let me just address IT here. That fact that, post these changes, the purchase of agricultural land still enables IT avoidance for the wealthy, will cause agricultural land prices to remain artificially inflated, well beyond its value as a productive business asset. This negates the claim of the politicians that agricultural land prices will fall and as a consequence, that also negates their claim that new young entrants will then be able to purchase more affordable land. The only people who will be able to afford to enter farming will be those with vast wealth and given that wealth, motive will always be in doubt. For these individuals, they are not entering a field of business to become better farmers than those already there, it is a necessary activity to enable tax avoidance. Another fact is that the Govt. perceive it is the wish of the population to use IT to redistribute wealth and so are committed to that process. A wealthy group have purchased agricultural land and the Govt seek to take some of that wealth via IT. The inevitable solution is that the incentive to purchase agricultural land to avoid IT must be removed. Any sort of capital threshold allowance before even equating tax receipts, even ramping up to 40% to equate with that levied on the rest of the population, leaves the process with a net rate lower than 40% and so the incentive will remain. The rate at higher levels has to be punitive such that there is a point at which there is no net benefit. At that point the incentive will be removed. Continuing the punitive rate on estates of greater value would then cause the net IT rate to be greater than 40%. This would cause all possible entrants seeking to purchase with a view to IT avoidance to not enter the market and those currently invested for the same reason, to leave it. That would cause the price of agricultural land to fall. That would take small family farms out of the sights of both the Govt and the rest of the population, as "hoarders of an unfair proportion of the nation's wealth" as some now deem them. One could argue at what point and what level, but it probably needs two change points at least. There will be many better placed than myself to advise but let me offer a simple example. Under £1m, 0%. £1m to £8m 5% and above £8m say 75% Estate value IT to be paid Net Rate (24 budget planned Govt IT) £1m £0 0% (0%) £2m £50k 2.5% (10.0%) £4m £150k 3.75% (15.0%) £6m £250k 4.16% (16.7%) £8m £350k 4.38% (17.5%) £10m £1,850k 18.5% (18.0%) £12m £3,350k 27.9% (18.3%) £14m £4,850k 34.6% (18.6%) £16m £6,350k 39.7% (18.8%) £18m £7.850k 43.6% (18.9%) [Note: By the changes proposed in the 24 budget, the state has decided the London home owner with a house and estate of say total value of £2.4M and even with transfer of deceased spouse rights taking the IT threshold to £1m, pays £560k IT, a net rate of 23.3% ie well above the wealthy character who has bought an £18m farm had it managed and pays at just 18.9%. Those with the bigger shoulders contributing less? Is this really what they wanted to do?] Small Family farms £150k is a new tractor, £250k a new combine. HMRC allow the It bill to be spread over 10 years interest free. OK no small family farms have generated the wealth to purchase a new tractor recently but you get the point, this level of IT could be a business expense that is definitely in the realms of affordability. Larger family farms Well above wherever that upper threshold is placed, the holding quickly becomes non-viable due to IT. But suddenly splitting up the holding amongst multiple family members, earlier, rather than at death enables the removal of the "one favoured child, because the farm needs economy of scale" - debate. Economy of scale will have to be achieved by co-operation rather than via ownership. A change but one that could have many positive outcomes for those starting out in the business who often have huge motivation. Those avoiding IT Well above £18m they just are not going there unless they really want to be farmers. At below £8m it still appears very attractive but the risk for new entrants to a business they know little about, is huge and hiring in management to run a business that, with such overheads, will not make a profit, is going to stick in the throat of those who have made wealth elsewhere. "I spend how much for a business that I actually have to spend even more money running?" Of course if the Govt. persist in grants for solar panels and the like, this still enables IT avoidance; buy the farm, don't farm it, turn it over to solar panels. Simply preventing any planning approval for solar panel installation on agricultural land stops that. From £8m to £18m the managed farm for the wealthy owner is becoming more viable (less costly?). At some point the threshold of "worthy entrant to farming" will be reached. Where the thresholds should be placed will be better decided by those more expert than myself. A long post and I have not addressed the other two points, farm gate value for products and grant aid, both of which influence the business of farming and agricultural land values but I did want to add to the very critical point you made - the Govt's changes to IT do virtually nothing to address IT avoidance. the distorting player, introduced by IT rules, is still in the market. Finally, a word of caution. Inflated land values have been in place for a good period. Reducing current land values by say 50% over say, a 10 year period, could be slow enough to manage with modest commercial grief, what will be hard for some, not all, of the farming population to handle is the fact that they are not as wealthy as they believed they were as they rode the bubble upwards. Those with a genuine love of farming may well see it as a great blessing. If I have made any errors or typos, as I am sure I will have, I offer my apologies.

[@johnpijano4786]

Farmers are always the backbone of any society. They should not be given any major penalties on tax and regulations at all. Edit: greetings from Canada.

[@BarcombeBoy]

They are not being penalised. They are still paying less inheritance tax than anyone else.

[@BarcombeBoy]

@@fionamunro3381 Not necessarily 'worked all our lives for'. If wealth is passed from generation to generation there is little necessity for the beneficiaries to work. It does not affect my 'food security' either. If food security were the overriding issue inefficient small farms would be a thing of the past.

[@tombrown407]

Estates that pay inheritance tax are generally not accumulated through work, but by ownership of capital. Farmers own assets and generate wealth through work, and occupy an odd position. ​@@fionamunro3381

[@williambradley3335]

@@BarcombeBoy Yes they are. It's immoral to have to sell assets to pay tax. For anyone, not just farmers.

[@fischX]

Reality is Farmers pocket all the money

[@Not-a-fancy-name]

There should be some form of inheritance tax or death duty on land. But that tax should only be realised if the land is sold within say 10 or more years of the death of the previous owner. This would dissuade rich people from buying land as an investment, as the wealth used to buy the land can not easily be realised but hopefully allow farming families to continue largely unaffected, passing down the family farm to one generation or the next. Might not work, but would hopefully partially solve the both issues.

[@penelopepitstop9073]

I'm glad that I found your videos, and glad that your fellow farmers are beginning to awaken to the plot (yes, I said it) against you all. As an American homesteader and trained historian, I empathize with what you are going through. But you must lose your blinders. This is not a "bungled" budget. They really do mean to drive you off your land, just as Lloyd George strove to drive the aristos off their land a century ago. You have no choice but to ally yourselves with any politicians that wish to make your cause their own. Otherwise, Starmer will sweep you out to sea. It's quite likely the plan is to create huge farms and use 3rd world labor under technocratic supervision, boosted by AI. You must get Labour to backtrack. Otherwise you're cooked, I'm very sorry to say. Best of luck to you!

[@humanperson8418]

5:55 - 8:55 You voted for this. 10:55 Vote Reform! (Like it or not, this is political. This is a decision made by politicians.)

[@robtoe10]

The issue in part is that farmers don't have proper political representation, so the main parties are over-focused on urban issues - like you say in the video, the farmers are there for a single issue, and it's maybe tricky to form a political force around a single issue without a secondary programme of policies which farmers as a whole might then not agree on You probably know better than I on the history of rural politics, from what it seems the marginalisation of farmers after industrialisation is probably why early 20th century European countries typically had pretty substantial Agrarian Parties.

[@Rickwardful]

There talks the biggest hypocrite that ever talked! Starmer, the Farmer harmer.

[@ianbird7444]

Stay strong guys me and the people off this country support farmers dont trust a word that comes out of labours mouths

[@delprice3007]

Really sad to see this insane policy putting pressure on a time honored way of life

[@Alex-fm5ke]

I honestly don’t see the problem with the tax because all people should pay inheritance tax no matter if they own a farm, a business or a home. But the government should massively increase farming subsidies and close loop holes for the actual rich farm owners.

[@BarronVonShyster]

When the rich complain ...you know something good is being done ..🤔

[@unktheunk1428]

for some reason the solution is never to go after speculative investment directly.

[@IeuanBevan.]

Anyone know who was in that tractor convoy? or who organised it?

[@caparaorc]

They're always attacking farmers, makes me think of the Kulak.

[@owenchan8431]

It’s like the rest of us in the city live terrible lives, let’s not bring the farmers down with us

[@DC9848]

1) Perhaps government should tax more grocery giants like Tesco. They should not pay huge dividends to their stock owners 2) The main reason NHS is in deep deficit is the vast level of illegal immigration to the country not to speak of all the previous waves of mass immigration. They should eliminate NHS right from illegal immigrants 3) Government or consumers should be able to pay extra money for their food that is exclusively used to make UK farmers more energy independent (bio gas tractors, local bio gas reactors owned by farmer coalitions, solar panels or solar tiles to cover sheds and battery storage to avoid high hourly rates and maximise the usage of locally produced energy)

[@MykhailoArmorer]

I can reassure you, that problem is not in migrants. Why? Because they usually in their 20es or 30es. And TADA! Person consume most of medical services after age of 60. Add aging population (this issue is easy to foreseen), no planing for it by government (why you should lose election over issue that 20 years away?) and you get mess NHS or Canada healthcare became. Just exploding demand over mismanaged system, and, funniest thing, current government is not responsible. Preparations should be stated 20 year ago...

[@dennissmelly9599]

Careful of what you say on the BBC. They have editorial control. Good luck.

[@BenStevenson-c4z]

We Must Invest £ in Agriculture 🚜 and The NHS £ 🚑

[@jackb8097]

Mate, thanks for laying out your situation and that of your fellow farmers. I, and I'm sure many other fellow Brits appreciate the vital role farmers play in the UK's economy & our culture in general. It's clear you're trying very hard to keep politics out of this issue, but it's a nigh-on impossible task. Like you, I've been a long-time Labour supporter (brought up in a north east pit village), but today's Labour party is nothing like that of 30 or 40 years ago. I'm convinced the policies they are pursuing will wreck the UK economy and it's culture, and I think they know this and are relishing the prospect. Not only are farmers under threat, but people and businesses all over the country - I don't think it's hyperbolic to say that the Labour government is an existential threat to this country. I'd bet that millions of decent, hard-working, nominally Labour-supporting people are now aware of the nightmare they have voted into power. All Brits who love their country, its contribution to the world and its potential for the future, should drop the left-right political bitching and join together to fight to get the Labour party and their elitist, globalist cronies out of power before they do any more damage. It's time for decent Brits to come together, regardless of where you sit on the political fence, and to fight to get our country back. If we don't, these clowns will demolish its very foundations. OK, OK, I'm stepping off the soap-box...

[@raquetdude]

Sad thing is that Labour as the best of them all… Tories are a mess and inherently globalisatic(capitalism), Reform would sell out British farmers to America in a second and are also inherently globalisers (Brexit, literally about making the UK more of a global than a regional player in global markets). LibDems, they are alright but same with Conservatives and Greens in ways but generally just flip floppers and are mostly anti construction (anti growth/economic prosperity) Greens are pro environment / anti farming while also being as bad as Reform on some international stuff (see Ukraine/Russia). Labour, currently have global approach (cause of Brexit and cause of capitalism) yet they appear to be the only one that has had understanding of what British farming needs (as they set up the system that farmers liked and like currently (the subsidies), farmers aren’t always fond of paying rents either. They are working people and labour are shifting more towards working people while the right wing parties are going for older people that aren’t working as much. Labour are the future because they are aiming their policies at ppl of the future. The right wing cannot do that as it would mean the possibility of lower house prices and less pensions/benefits for elders. Left wing / centre are the future.

[@malkomalkavian]

Why do farmers have slight limps?

[@anonanon5878]

Inheritance tax is a tax on loss, pain, and suffering. Without politicians we'd have no taxes, without farmers, no food. You choose. stUCK Farmer

[@schmiddy1473]

James O’brian and his listeners are sensationalist hacks, I wouldn’t take his show as a litmus for the sentiment of the UK public as a whole. Not many things are due to our cultural attitude towards public political conversation and its tendency to elevate the loudest and simplest voices. Great comment though.

[@lksf9820]

The whole situation is so complex I don't think anyone fully understands it, you'd need a brain with the capacity of some kind of supercomputer to get to the bottom of all the agendas, lies, truths, predictions, ifs, what's and maybes. Clarkson is very good at what he does (entertain, make money) and people don't seem to understand this at all. Yes i'd steer clear of him as it appears he stands to lose or gain heavily from farming and owning land.

[@liquidusblue]

Keir was miles away in Brazil. Fightig climate change... by not using a Video conference 🙄

[@موسى_7]

Climate change isn't national security, so there's no reason not to use video calls or a telephone call

[@Ian8008]

Politician = professional liar in my book.

[@bipslone8880]

Farmers = professional whiners

[@bipslone8880]

@@fionamunro3381 Well I guess you know it all

[@yuriisamoliuc]

Didn't you mention in an older video that you would vote for them?

[@kitrana]

why do farmers develop that limp?

[@floydblandston108]

From working their bodies too hard, from too young an age.

[@TalonAshlar]

While i support inheritance taxes in principle the law for farms as it stands is completely wrong. The tax should firstly be levied only on the residential part of the farm on death to deal with millionaires seeking an exemption for mansions and taxes on land should be applied only when the farmland is rezoned as urban based on how long the land was farmed to discourage non productive landuse.

[@cassieoz1702]

I'd keep Clarkson well out of the way if you can. He's a rich man with a big mouth and not the most credible ally

[@ihavenomouthandimusttype9729]

The final straw on a bale of Torie straws.

[@cassieoz1702]

Yes, blah, blah, blah. People hold to those sentiments from LONG EXPERIENCE

[@eileenahern-ku9nx]

Farmers give them hell. Without ye the country will fall. Ye are keeping the country together dont mind stammer he is a puppet ❤

[@amk4956]

I have a couple connections to some larger left-leaning KZbin channels here in the United States, would you have any interest in discussing the farm issues of the United Kingdom with them? I probably couldn’t get you an interview until after New Year’s

[@farmingexplained]

Sure! I have an email in the channel bio if you need to reach me. Very much appreciated

[@ElizabethMitford]

It is very concerning when I open tiktok for example and see post after post of young, supposedly left wing people, who seem to think that food grows on supermarket shelves. They seem to believe that the farmer is the aristocrat, they have no idea of the distinction. Thank you for offering a left-wing voice on this matter because it is imperative that this does not become another left/right absurd culture war. Everyone needs a farmer. All this hassle for a tax that is likely to raise less than 1 day of NHS spending. And this is to 'pay for the NHS' is it, Reeves? I don't think so. There are far more expensive schemes currently being ran by this government that can be axed first...I hope that you keep an open mind and don't stick too loyally to a party which seems determined to screw you and your way of life over.

[@floydblandston108]

While everyone gnaws over the same old bones, with pity sauce and spite gravy to freshen them up, you're all missing the main point- England is being re-feudalized. In the same way the USA is now wholly in sway politically to its economic oligarchy (just like it was before WWI) - the UK is allowing its gentry to 're-land' themselves. *Remember* - if capitalism is only there to serve the capital classes, the worker loses nothing in its downfall.

[@snokehusk223]

Homeland party is the solution

[@REDLION0044]

You say that this is not political but its your self declared Labour party that IS doing this and it's Reform/Tory and others who are opposing it. You really can't have it both ways. Having said that I fully support you in this matter and thank you for helping to feed the nation.

[@raquetdude]

The Tories have been making it harder for farmers to exist for decades while making it easier for land owners and rich ppl to own land and be paid to do nothing (grow trees). The Tories aren’t good at all for working class ppl on farms, least Labour actually funded them back in the 40s and it’s that system that they are still reliant on

[@موسى_7]

​@@raquetdude First past the post turned Britain into a one party state

[@ianwilson8759]

You have argued the economic case for protecting family farms and commercial farms very well with sound economics and reasoning. However, you fail to admit that this government is waging a direct socialistic assault on small businesses, which is what you are. No conservative government of any hue would do to you what Labour are doing. Margaret Thatcher's "assault" on the mines was very different in context to what Labour are now up to with farming. Farming takes virtually no taxpayers money to keep in business and they keep about a million people in employment. Coal mines in the 70's and 80's were deeply uneconomic enterprises with extremely low productivity and were propped up by taxpayers hard earned money - they were almost all state owned to some extent. The UK had been socialist (Labour and Conservative) for 34 years from 1945 until the Thatcher government came to power in 1979. The privatised and wealthy country that Britain is today is a direct result of Mrs Thatcher's defeat of the unions, the Labour party and yes, the miners in 1985, which was only 5 years before the Soviet Union collapsed. The unions had more loyalty and affection for that horrible state than they had for this country. You may not like what I have written, but that doesn't alter the facts. Coal mines of the 1980's were almost the antithesis of farms of the 2020's.

[@seeriktus]

Complete shower

[@megapangolin1093]

Agree with all of this except I cannot understand why you vote Labour and voted this lot into power, that really was a bad business decision. Labour are only interested in propping up government employees, nationalising everything, and encouraging the unions to take over the work place. Why do you do this to yourself? Farmers, are by their employment, capitalists, they are not "working people", eg civil servants. Dont kid yourself that Labour are ever on your side. What are you worried about the "Right Wing". The Left labels everyone not like them as Far Right, in fact, Tony Blair would be far right by todays definition. Farmers, being Capitalists, will of course, by their nature, be well-behaved. It is the left wing that are thugs, protected by the police.

[@farmingexplained]

Fair point. I have discussed why I voted Labour in the videos running up to this although I accept it was probably wishful thinking

[@LANDYMAN090]

@@farmingexplainedbuyers remorse. All you had to do is talk to someone who lived through a labour government. I’ve lived through 3 and I can tell you now, this is not going to end well for all of us now.

[@babygirlmarx]

​@@farmingexplainedIt's a bit of a shame to see you agreeing with comments like this tbh. What Starmer's done here with farmers is exactly what he's done to both workers and business owners in cities too - instead of going after the ultra wealthy throwing the burden on already struggling middle to low income people instead. Your channel has done so much to educate me as a leftist city dweller that understood very little about the countryside before watching your videos. When I see working families in food banks and small family farmers barely able to make a living whilst supermarket shareholders rake it profits it's obvious that they're taking the piss out of all of us whilst keeping us fighting amongst ourselves. Unfortunately this is probably going to turn a lot of small family farmers into hating the left when this is a time where we really need our farmers to educate leftists in cities who don't understand the value of what you all do. I know you were probably agreeing with them criticising you for voting Labour and perhaps not all of the rest of what they said but I really hate the argument they make that because farmers are capitalists they essentially shouldn't ever align themselves with the left. In my own ignorance I might've believed an argument like that before watching your channel but your content has made it abundantly clear to me as a socialist that small/family farmers need to be at the centre of a coalition of working people. It's also quite clear to me now that a lot of farmers aren't even particularly right wing but they've been so badly failed by the left that they feel have no choice but to vote for centre/right wing parties. Starmer has betrayed working people from all different backgrounds and we should be coming together to hold Labour accountable instead of doing nonsense culture war arguments amongst ourselves.

[@farmingexplained]

@babygirlmarx I wasn't really 'agreeing' as much as pointing the commenter towards earlier videos where I explained my rationale. I appreciate your sentiment but for my purposes I don't want to alienate people so in times like these it doesn't hurt to have a little humble pie

[@megapangolin1093]

@@farmingexplained Sorry for the hard line, I was just a bit shocked, as I hadn't seen your previous video on that subject. I will give it a bash. Keep up the good work, I really enjoy your vids.

[@brhbrh5572]

Farmers betrayed Brexit.

[@leeskinka]

You forgot to mention why wealthy farmers/landowners should be exempt from supporting public services through IHT. Not heard a reasonable excuse yet, fancy explaining?

[@shadigeris9760]

Why are you so put off by Reform and Farage? They might be Right, but they are right. It's seems they are the only group looking after the energy and food security of the UK. All the rest just providing the same old waffle you had from Startmer at the start of the video. Great video as always. Thanks.

[@acanadianineurope814]

hes young, deleded, and very stupid. lots of us were hopefully he will grow up. his father, otoh

[@quentinsummers2531]

Bet you feel pretty stupid for not voting for reform, because it's 'too racist'

[@willpbh]

first

[@GreenSaxon]

Sell a Range Rover and buy cheaper wellies and PAY A TAX WE ALL HAVE TO PAY

[@Muljinn]

Anyone who believes Starmer… on anything really, is either A.) on the take, B.) terminally stupid or C.) just not paying attention.

[@poco9964]

You're suffering from serve confirmation bias.

[@jamesbarbour8400]

You admitted you are a Labour voting family - suck it up bozo - no sympathy here !

[@dww6]

Because the Tories were doing a great job? Do you remember your electric bill last winter? Followed by record profits for the energy companies? It's a choice between a douche and a turd sandwich.

[@studentaviator3756]

Politics is completely broken and all mainstream parties are fucked. This guy has made a great video explaining the plight of farmers, and this is what you have to say? We are better than this.

[@certifiedsonny]

tax dodgers