Weapon Guide - Innocent/Fenrir ver. [Octopath Traveler: Champions of the Continent)

[@ShizukatzCotC]

BTW originally JP enhancement drops were originally 1-2 per kill instead of 4-8, that was TRUE suffering. Timestamps for the mobile users: 0:00 Intro 0:30 Regarding "Grade" 1:15 Regarding Armor 2:20 Weapon/Loot Basics 4:53 Battle-Tested Weapons 6:06 Enhanceable Weapons 11:06 Tyrant vs. Fenrir/Innocent 12:42 My recommendations 15:00 Nameless Town Equipment 17:11 Outro

[@pipporossi5319]

Hi , when you talk about the arena , there is in game an arena like “a battle arena” or is just the Arena “world map” stage?

[@pipporossi5319]

Ps. How do I unlock the “super attack” the orange bar that i see in all your video?

[@ShizukatzCotC]

@@pipporossi5319 The Arena Tourneys are permanent content featuring 8 Superbosses. They will be released one-by-one over the next several months. The "Super Attack" Orange bar is for the characters' Special Skills, which are not in English yet, and probably won't be for a while.

[@pipporossi5319]

@@hentaicheg thank you ☺️

[@pipporossi5319]

@@ShizukatzCotC thanks so much 👏🏼👍🏻

[@Q2tall]

Thank you for the guides, they all are immensely helpful 🙏🏽

[@DarkestSamus1]

There are times when I come into one of your videos thinking "I already know everything on this subject!" and every time you've proven me wrong with some new knowledge! My favorite factoid from this was being able to RESET the drops from the Elites! The loading screen time is indeed a bit meh but there are times when I would be willing to do it for sure. Learning more about Grade and the JP future weapon sets was a big boon too. Thanks yet again!

[@catfud]

Your guides are amazing! High quality videos with high quality content. Keep up the good work!

[@gotaplanstan]

Cheeeessy Cats!!!! Thanks for yet another fantastic video 🤎

[@DreamblitzX]

For now, I think I'll mostly stick to getting a single fenrir 3 for each physical weapon and an innocent 3 for each of the magic weapons, because gosh thats a lot of farm. I should start trying the BT weapon fights since I've gotten around 3/4 of my main team to ~75, but they're intimidating...

[@dey2x313]

As always great stuff my guy. And bruh, besting the bt Npc three more times(potentially more depending on drop luck), is gonna be rough

[@Greensburgg]

You mean thirty more times (on average)

[@lorenzocostanzo9583]

Thank you so much, having this info on advance is really useful. You explain these things quite clearly and easy to understand. Keep doing this well! :)

[@soup5478]

great coverage, cheers! Looking forward to the cup prep video!

[@gtx21]

Thank you for the help, i still haven't completed master of all story arc but this will defently help me gear up my team

[@videogamermonterrey]

Thanks for the video dude. That information is very relevant.

[@JacobSReeds]

Thanks so much for this video! I just finished up cleaning out the world of elites, quests, and more, and was turning my eye towards this exact grind. Thanks for the direction in it!

[@Boricosa]

I have been trying very hard to upgrade my teams and hopefully in 3 or 4 weeks I will be able to obtain them! Thanks for the guide😁

[@edwardjabar3141]

Thank you very much for this video. I am at the part where I am starting to deal with Innocent and Fenrir weapons so it’s helpful.

[@ecruz010]

Excellent as usual, thanks for doing this!

[@adopted996]

Good stuff man appreciate the info

[@TonyTheTact]

Wow this guide was exactly what I needed

[@jonathancook1731]

Excellent overview! Thank you

[@Greensburgg]

Thank you for the guide! I was just wondering about this yesterday. I'll just have to save the BT farming for later. Can't be arsed to get 4 of each now. With one copy of each I should get IV weapons of every type so that should make farming BT much easier down the road.

[@Protoman20xx99]

oh man that clears up soooooo much, I never quite understood this in JP😑

[@edwardcho9851]

The timing of this video is so coincidental for me… thanks!

[@MikeeYowee]

Good heavens, that is a lot of farming.

[@rmachado1987]

Nice video, you shed some light on plenty of stuff for me, thx =]

[@eliteforce5]

"This has been a long one" *looks at the 4* units* hm yes...long video. Now you have to balance it all out by covering the 3* units. 🤣. Thank you for the weapon video.

[@Flareboxx]

Can you make a guide on the best NPCs to guide to your team currently available in the Global version? It's so hard to remember which ones were good without going back through and checking every single one.

[@Akira-cd2qs]

I heard that the historic materials you get from beating the BT fights can be used to obtain more BT weapons, but If I can farm those weapons by recruiting and leaving the NPCs, then what's the purpose of the historic materials? Is it even worth farming?

[@Ellzcraft]

Think of it this way, historic materials are on a 20 hour timer, and after ~8 days of getting 4 per day, you’re guaranteed a BT of your choice. It might be a sane version of fighting the NPCs over and over for a 10% chance drop. When the next 4 arrive, it’s then 4 days of farming them all once a day.

[@DarkestSamus1]

@@Ellzcraft Oh, is that the cost? 30 Historic Materials per free BT?

[@Ellzcraft]

@@DarkestSamus1 That is correct, 30 Materials per BT.

[@kingrose88]

Shizu: you can farm them in one sitting by kicking them off your allies and fighting them again ME: MY LIFE IS A LIE!!

[@aitby9109]

I cant uppgrade koda smith in namles town to level 2? I have done all quests and sidequest but the option to uppgrade is not there. Is it a bug or did i miss something?

[@vdinh143]

So for people like me who don't want to grind for min/max, it seems like the recommendation is to have Fenrir/Tyrant for physical weapons and simply stick with Tyrants for magical ones. However, at 14:00 it is said that Tyrant performs roughly the same as Fenrir outside of the arena, so is it another step of laziness that I can take to just simply go for physical Fenrir IV (since it's similar outside and better inside) *and* magical Tyrant IV (since it is better outside and similar inside)?

[@ShizukatzCotC]

If you want to be a bit more lax with the farming process, I could see going like 1 of each physical class making a Fenrir, and 1 of everything for Tyrant, skipping Innocent altogether.

[@vdinh143]

I'm mostly concerned with the pace of content release vs how much time I have to grind now that it's more difficult for me to emulate the game and play on my PC which is more comfy for me. Thank you for the advice. The content has been great!

[@fveraeaglesfanable]

U r amazing thank you for the information!

[@TheSpartanjm]

I haven't finished king pardis story line, but I will try to get battle tested tome

[@luizpedropeixoto2707]

Could u do a vídeo helping to beat this Battle Tested weapons? I'm having a dificult time with the oldman with the bow. That bastard have One Hit KO hit.

[@KashimZero]

Hi can anyone link me or tell me were to find a "drop rate site" going insane trying to farm certain maths like "old wolf fangs". just want to know which "zone" and enemys that drops what.

[@crunchypotato7216]

Im currently farming fenrir equipments and i wonder why the enemy drops old wolf materials which puzzled so i search what a fenrir is and sure enough i got the answer

[@dmmyddy1235]

Hi Shizu can you make a video explaining more about weapon grade.

[@AnnieTheDarkChild]

Omg, is that Serenoa in your Team? Its so cool that we will be able to get the characters from triangle strategy.

[@gatonopu8473]

How do i make tier 3 weapons? The game only allow me to make them tier 2 and i already killed all monsters on these Areas

[@ShizukatzCotC]

In order to unlock the Tier 3 weapon in the blacksmith, you have to first make the Tier 2 weapon, and then it shows up.

[@MrImarket]

Hey man thanks for the awesome guide! I was wondering if you could maybe do a party composition guide for the battle tested fights ? That would be super useful - thanks!

[@norman20100]

5:00 but you can get drop bt fighting for summon battle not for historic material ?

[@norman20100]

i fighting polearm like 30 times and dont get even single bt

[@riskyworks]

1:17 Wait, is that who I think it is? Is that the young lord of House Wolffort himself, Serenoa?

[@ShizukatzCotC]

:eyes:

[@Urshiko]

So what does grade actually affect? You said it was a hidden offense but can you elaborate a bit more on that please?

[@16SF]

Apparently grade is part in the mathematical formula that the game uses to calculate damage output. The JP players have been datamining and testing for a long time. Some of it has made its way to Reddit, if you are curious.

[@eileen88]

I think he already said that it adds 15 stats per grade

[@ShizukatzCotC]

As Nikki said, it's part of the math formula to determine damage. That being said, both actual-Japanese JP players and western JP players have been trying to figure out an exact equation that shows how Grade translates to damage, and nothing concrete has shown up. Through my own testing (just trial/error + observation) it has equated to roughly 20-25 offensive stats per 0.1 Grade.

[@yazidalaouimrani6909]

I have a small question , there was a woman next to the lvl 100 npc in Flamesgrace , I inquired more items from her then had to go restore my reputation in the tavern before I got the necklace from her , but then she disappeared , I waited for both daily and weekly reset but she never showed up again , I feel sad that I couldn't get the last item which could have been very useful for me , so is there any way to get her back or some mechanism

[@ShizukatzCotC]

I've heard there is a glitch regarding that particular NPC going missing, unfortunately I do not personally know of any solution or what causes it.

[@yazidalaouimrani6909]

@@ShizukatzCotC Do u think it's worth sending a ticket to the game customer service

[@NoobAlly]

You can get BT weapons from recruiting the NPCs? I thought it was only via the contest option

[@ShizukatzCotC]

Both can drop them :)

[@Seariuz]

Great video but you never really took the Crit stat into account on tyrant weapons. +15 at LVL 2 and +30 at LVL 3 and 4.

[@ShizukatzCotC]

Crit is just far too low-value a stat to take into account imo.

[@goenawanarief4027]

excellent. I am actually wondering when this video will come out, but it is totally worth it. nevertheless, right now I just doing my routine daily of beating BT NPC, elite enemies, and farming exp for all my travellers. all of my 4 star finally got to 60. so now, it's time to farm for those fenrir and BT NPC. waiting for the tikilin arena video. since I don't care about spoiler. I WILL watch that video. one quick question though, that legendary ash, I still haven't found any boss on the nameless tower on GL side. any idea how to get those out?

[@ShizukatzCotC]

To unlock the extra bosses in the tower, you must defeat every Elite enemy in each area (on the actual map, not in the tower).

[@goenawanarief4027]

@@ShizukatzCotC ah, I see, my suspicion is on spot. I spent times in finishing all the elite monster, still some left but now I know for sure. thank you for kind reply

[@SherlockHomeless221b]

Were do you get the tyrannical gear? Also what path is it after master of all i picked fame which is innocent

[@ShizukatzCotC]

Tyrannical is from Donescu area, which is in Bestower of Power Chapter 1. However, this video is not up-to-date and the best weapon series currently available is Twilight series (Lv64) from Bestower of Wealth Ch.2.

[@SherlockHomeless221b]

@@ShizukatzCotC thank you for the reply. I started a week ago so i am a bit behind but ill bear that in mind

[@Protoman20xx99]

What about the Eclipse Armour in the game?

[@ShizukatzCotC]

Pretty sure that's just part of the naming scheme for Fenrir Mdef. equips, if I'm not mistaken

[@Kumiko026]

Do I need to beat King Pardis to unlock these weapons? Because I am struggling so hard against him.. :(

[@ShizukatzCotC]

Yes, Pardis must be defeated to unlock these areas/weapons. The strongest weapon series you can use against Pardis is the Meteorite Weapons (Lv60).

[@DCDCDC978]

Is the third option in the shop available yet? I don't see it in Victor's Hollow

[@ShizukatzCotC]

You probably need to first obtain Fenrir Weapons so that the third option shows up. I would assume it doesn't show up unless you have some actual weapons that can be upgraded there.

[@erguancho6186]

When you upgrade tyrannical weapons, only the crit stat of the weapon improves, right? Does the crit stat only affects crit percentage or also crit damage? Is crit worth?

[@ShizukatzCotC]

Crit is easily the most useless stat. It only affects crit chance, not crit damage, and it seems that enemies also have a variable crit resistance - the strongest enemies seem to have a lower chance of having crits landed on them. That being said, the main reason to build Tyrant weapons is specifically to craft the Tyrant IVs, since they'll be the strongest weapons for a few months - stronger than Fenrir/Innocent due to its higher grade, as indicated in the video.

[@erguancho6186]

@@ShizukatzCotC thanks, luv u

[@Roltair]

Tyrant weapons are also supposed to give a bit of crit right? You had a reaction later in the video making it sound like crit is never worth building for. Am I correct in that assumption?

[@ShizukatzCotC]

The problem with crit is that the payoff is only a 25-30% damage increase. Unlike in other games, there's no way to significantly increase your crit chance, and even if there was, it would be much easier to just increase the character's base damage instead. Also Spells can't crit. As a result, Crit is kind of an underwhelming stat overall.

[@SnakeSanders97]

I just completed the final chapter after master of all but I have not been able to go to victors hollow or flamesgrace. How do I get there? Is there some NPC I need to talk to?

[@ShizukatzCotC]

Flamesgrace is available by playing Bestower of Fame prologue, and Victor's Hollow is in Bestower of Wealth Ch.1.

[@SnakeSanders97]

@@ShizukatzCotC Thanks a lot! I couldn't start that quest before but, I found out that the flower girls NPC sells the item you need for the quest.

[@laurenwillmot]

Oo I never even saw the hidden npc in Valore! So now I have found every npc so far except I have 19/20 of the fame/entreat npc’s found in flamesgrace and I’m convinced the last one is hiding, please let me know if you have any info!

[@laurenwillmot]

Nvm had to reach fame lvl 26 to inquire further

[@hcmminh1228]

Is that correct that we can only keep 2 BT weapons of a type? I fought and got the BT Axe dropped like 3 times + 1 guaranteed from the 1st time beating the NPC, but when I checked there are only 2 of them in my stock. Btw, thank you for your wonderful videos

[@ShizukatzCotC]

You can have more than 2! When choosing which weapon to equip, it won't display all copies you own, it'll display any copies equipped + 1. Check your weapon inventory rather than checking via Weapon Select screen to see how many you actually have :)

[@kevincarrizales4957]

So now that tyrant have been released in EN we should skip innocent?

[@ShizukatzCotC]

If you want to skip some of the farming and not go for absolute minmax, skip Innocent. If you want to be a minmaxer, Innocent IV is better than Tyrant IV SPECIFICALLY in Arena, in terms of Mag stat.

[@jrod7929]

Which path action do BT weapons drop. Been doing the historic material one and after about 30-35 times, I've yet to see a BT weapon :)

[@ShizukatzCotC]

They drop on either action.

[@jrod7929]

@@ShizukatzCotC Argh. Have done them like 35 times so far. Not a single drop beyond the original 4. That's atrocious rng lol

[@daviddaily3969]

@@jrod7929 I can confirm this. I just got bt bow from a contend. I tried maybe 15 times before it dropped. Hope this helps!

[@aceboog4873]

Did tyrant weapons and/or level 4 innocent and fenrir release at the same time as the tikilen cup in JP?

[@ShizukatzCotC]

in JP they were released two weeks later, in the Bestower of Power Ch.1 patch, which included Donescu. It's looking to be the same for EN.

[@aceboog4873]

@@ShizukatzCotC OK great. Thanks. Any speculation on when tikilen will be? I'm assuming next week or the week after?

[@ShizukatzCotC]

Probably next week since updates are looking to be every 2 weeks.

[@edwardcho9851]

For a filthy casual what do you recommend? Farm for just fenrir? I barely beat moa chapter 8

[@ShizukatzCotC]

If you want to be a bit more lax with the farming process, I could see going like 1 of each physical class making a Fenrir, and 1 of everything for Tyrant, skipping Innocent altogether.

[@edwardcho9851]

@@ShizukatzCotC appreciate the reply! Keep up the great work with content

[@prisionerohd9889]

10% drop rates sounds so fake, i fight 3 of the BT npc every day (24 historic materials i think) and they have dropped nothing

[@ShizukatzCotC]

All a matter of perspective. It used to be like 1% for JP before it got its drop rate buffed so to us it was a massive blessing :>

[@daviddaily3969]

I just a bt bow from contend. Took about 15 tries.

[@TwinBladeFury]

Hey Shizukatz, are you the one who made the character index that people share on reddit? There are a lot of pages hidden that I was hoping to look at.

[@ShizukatzCotC]

yes that is ny index, the hidden pages are pretty much all just old versions of current pages or outdated information.

[@TwinBladeFury]

@@ShizukatzCotC I remember at some point there was a list of the characters by class, in the same format as the New Units page, where it gives full info on their kits. I'm probably just missing something super obvious as I'm not well versed in excel, but if those hidden pages are old, how do I access the new pages for all of the classes, the status ailments, the character evals, and the front page?

[@TwinBladeFury]

@@ShizukatzCotC Nevermind, I joined the discord and I figured it out. The one I was linked to was (New Units) and only had hidden pages on it. The one in discord has all the pages I was looking for. Thanks a ton for making this, it gives me something to look over while I'm pretending to pay attention on zoom meetings lol

[@driesverhaag8955]

So besides the usual comment complaining about the the Cyrusless life that I'm living I actually have another thing that I want your advice on, seeing as I am saving all my gems for collabs, Cyrus and H'aanit. I'm really lacking in the traveler department. I want to farm for BT weapons but I have the feeling I'm just lacking the resources to do so, I've tried beating all but failed every one except for the BT Spear NPC. I currently have 4.6k gems saved up, so would you recommend just waiting untill there is a traveler worth pulling? Or just do a step up banner to at least get some more useful 4* units? Or do I wait it out and just start farming the BT weapons later on... And yes, this is day 28 of playing COTC without Cyrus...

[@prisionerohd9889]

Patient people always laugh last in gacha games

[@norman20100]

looks like hell of a grind not fan of this

[@anonymousunknown8226]

Its hard to understand your content of video, bcs you talk so fast and ur visual of video not explain it. Its like hearing mumble rap with japanese game.

[@cliveybear]

If only there was a way to slow down playback speed.