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[@jackostaryt]

I like how plarium has no problem moving cheetah to medium energy capacity but can't be bothered to slightly buff md's heal this game has priorites in all the wrong spots

[@Neuvillete4.6]

Or a big boy like brick house can't hold 32 energy but puma can

[@ohlookitisacat7404]

@@Neuvillete4.6 Meh, Puma can get one tap by literally every weapon in existence so it's fair.

[@skelleboy4650]

they should have given Shadow that buff instead i feel like it deserves more not just at 16 energy

[@theautocube4387]

​@@skelleboy4650fr

[@ItsAsteri_]

@@Neuvillete4.6 yeah no. with 32 energy, a maxed bricker can deal as much dmg as 2 24 energy mechs. aint no way

[@ministrychannelsa4216]

I made a, suggestion to Plarium. Make everything you have one star and give you the blueprints, acoins and credits to get all your stuff back up to where it was. Now you can choose if you want to get all your stuff back to where they were, or invest in other stuff. Such a reset will give you the ability to build up your hanger all over again.

[@Darkythepirate]

Totally agreed. My 6 star Juggernaut is now a trashcan. I'm really upset.

[@GalileoMechArena]

that sounds like a really good suggestion but that would make people not have to buy better versions of the mechs and weapons they already upgraded and which means less money for them which means they probably wont do it

[@rekkaus]

What I liked this game was and is: You can take any bot and be usefull. There was not only one current "best meta" bot and weapon what everyone would copy and had 5 of them in they hangar. But now if these changes come it will be more or less: - What you start with WILL become bad - You HAVE TO get rare and epic just because they are so much better. That will kill creativity. And also mean gap between pay to win and random players who just want to have fun time to time (and are free to play) will get bigger. You are forced to buy certain things if you want to be good in this game soon. It will not be enough that you have tough Juggernaut with RPG 6's if enemy have same level fragile Redox or Surge and missle rack 6's. They will win without using any abilities, just standing bot vs bot, (samekind of) weapon vs weapon. I honestly told many of my clan mates in War Robots how this game (Mech Arena) is way better, that you can take what ever hangar and have fun even in high level. That there are not only certain best builds and bots.. but look like that will change.

[@molybdnum]

Day 1 of the update: All immediately true. Juggernaut is now the worst mech in the game with no contest; it's 'ability' is to pretend to be a better mech that has it's ability on cooldown.

[@darkness_4ever490]

Well boys, we are screwed

[@6starFenrir]

How so? I made out big time here.. my hangar is all epic and legendary mechs and weapons.. Orion, stalker, kill shot, panther, surge/bastion.. em16 arc12s sg8 disc launcher 16/8 😂 Im loving this

[@ProVIPGamers]

Agreed 🙂

[@darkness_4ever490]

@@6starFenrir by we I meant people who are new and Don't spend, not like we weren't screwed before, but now we are more screwed

[@abhishekgoel2417]

That is an understatement...

[@delhitourist6526]

I agree with you we f2p players are done for

[@elliotma3767]

If they do follow through with making every mech and weapon available on the "new progress path," like they alluded to, then I think this update makes sense. If not, then this truly is messed up...

[@Neuvillete4.6]

Plus the stupid cost of buying stuff

[@Counterpoint_Apologetics]

They should make recycle mech system so you can trade in a mech for value for other mech. Weapons also. At least you can build and get some value for your work. It will create a more positive balance to upgrade and previous work.

[@niranjanunnikrishnan6506]

As Soon as I saw this I felt backstabbed. This is completely insane. It will be hard to live with these unike pilots. Now only Legendary and Epics mechs are viable. On top of this they also buffed every weapon even mortars and ems. This doesn't feel like balance to me, It just felt like they just reshuffled up the meta for mechs. There is some logic behind doing some of these things, but it was overdone. Still don't understand how they came to such a conclusion. Overall this doesn't feel like a 'comprehensive overhaul', wish they actually analysed the items in our inventory before they made such changes

[@pr3ludejr]

Epics and legendaries being better is how it should be.

[@tsrmmercy836]

​@@pr3ludejr Exactly! Legendary mechs should have legendary performance. These dudes want a rare mech with legendary performance like the stalker. And they say it is unfair for them, they just don't want it to be fair for everyone else, they just want their mech to not be nerfed lmao.

[@Neuvillete4.6]

​@@pr3ludejr yes but should everything else be trash? No

[@jokeathrowaway2524]

Fr. I really thought they're just gonna change the Mech/Weapon rarity to fit their power. Instead they changed their power to match their rarity. Now what, so many people invested in things like Stalker, Tengu, Longarm 12, Shotgun 8 etc. The devs just ruined one of the last good thing about the game: Even low rarity weapons can prove deadly

[@jokeathrowaway2524]

@@tsrmmercy836 Listen: A 3* Stalker is never as viable as a 5* Brickhouse or a 5* Surge. A 5* Stalker is though. Why? Because even when they start at a low rarity, they can be good after upgrading. And players still need to spend resources to upgrade their hangar. It's all fair when players have to grind/pay for a good Uncommon or Rare Mechs/Weapons. And that was one of the best things in this game: Even low rarity Mechs/Weapons can be strong

[@nathanledee3140]

Everyone used to talk stuff about my cheetah and now that I got a maxed out I’m winning after the update. I’m so excited. It’s never been about meta for me I just like using cool and different mechs and weapons

[@Kalidosia_Da_Weedman]

Cheetah Gang!!!

[@tsrmmercy836]

Same here. I want a diverse set of mechs and weapons to combat AND utilize in the arena. I hate to see everyone these days running around with stalkers and disk launchers because it's overpowered.

[@bobosniff3336]

Same

[@bobosniff3336]

@@Kalidosia_Da_Weedman cheetah gang!!

[@Kalidosia_Da_Weedman]

@@bobosniff3336 yeee

[@sploog]

I'd like to say this is shocking, but no, this is pretty much what I expected when I heard of this update. They're gonna hit a lot of their whales that use mechs like tengu and stalker too, so it's even more of a shortsighted move than it seems.

[@tsrmmercy836]

They literally don't care if you dump money for them, they are making the game balanced so mechs feel how they should've since the beginning. Legendaries should have legendary performance.

[@tsrmmercy836]

The whales all have a maxed stalker coupled with alot of maxed weapons. They are countering this unfair usage of a rare mech. Regardless if you are p2w or not.

[@sdal_yt]

​@@tsrmmercy836 the meatriding is real

[@tsrmmercy836]

@@sdal_yt yeah because jumping on the bandwagon and hating on plarium is less sheep like. Meat riding would imply that I agree with plarium in order to get a reward in the end. I don't. No p2w or f2p player gets anything for defending the companies actions. I'm a f2p player and haven't spent a dime and I agree with their actions.

[@krist94]

Yup, they just want you to spend

[@ksinamikaze]

A legendary version of Tengu sounds scary

[@webmoss]

Stasis 45m radius would be nice

[@GenZ-Euronymous]

When scape makes a 20 muinite video, you know they screwed something up

[@darthpi1337]

Well, I did about four months free-to-play and have a mostly rare-tier hanger and was already getting frustrated with matchmaking against constant pay-to-win EM rifles, so this might be the time to say I've had my fill of Mech Arena. It was fun while it lasted, but all of this seems like an even less balanced game than it already was, and at some point the frustration just isn't worth it. Might go through and open all of the crates I have been saving up just to see what I can make my endgame hangar look like.

[@mudbomb7170]

I have to agree with you on this im out as well . Just not going to be fun anymore.

[@gammafighter]

Get out while you still can!

[@tsrmmercy836]

Thank goodness all the crappy players are leaving. More newbies to come!

[@Neuvillete4.6]

​@@tsrmmercy836 okay pay to win. The newbies are gonna leave as well

[@darthpi1337]

@@tsrmmercy836 It's not about quality of players. It's about the developers signaling to everyone who plays that the only viable option is to never bother upgrading anything that isn't epic or legendary tier. You either have to power grind the whole way to those unlocks without ever upgrading your early and mid game mechs, which sounds exhausting, or else you have to bypass the early and mid game mechs and weapons entirely by using actual currency, which is something many of us really don't want to do. Someone who has already spent time to level up mechs like Paragon or Ares has a right to be frustrated by these changes. Unless they massively rebalance upgrade costs to make upgrading common-rare tier mechs much less resource-expensive, this is going to drive a lot of people away.

[@pixal1250]

I WAS RIGHT!!! I said a few videos ago that I was worried that the meta would just be legendary weapons and mechs. I was really hoping that they took the class into account a lot more :(

[@DPearls24]

Great analysis. This is probably going to bump out all but the hardcore $$$ investors. Maybe that is the point of these upgrades is to either get rid of the near FTP to allow for those spending lots of $$. Keep up the great work.

[@6starFenrir]

Would u want ppl who don't spend money hanging around your business? Just sayin

[@crazyreptileguy]

@@6starFenrir yes. i don't wanna get wrecked by a surge.

[@arsalanalam2916]

@@6starFenrir there’s a difference between spending money and just making it unfair. It’s unfair because the players that don’t spend money now can’t get the good stuff and the stuff they already had which were good will now turn into shit, and the new players won’t stand a chance without spending money. There’s a way to make your consumers spend money and this is definitely not the way. The amount of people playing the game shows how good/successful the game is and will attract sponsors, that’s one way to make money without making it unfair

[@Neuvillete4.6]

​@@6starFenrir yes if they are attracting customers

[@sdal_yt]

​@@6starFenrir hanging on the mech arena devs d*ck i see huh

[@tejtel86]

There should be scrap policy for mechs and weapons just like implants in exchange of A coins and Credits.

[@nikontruth4227]

I really like to try and complete the achievements for the mechs I use but you're right, some of them I'll never finish because I refuse to use the crap weapons to do it lol.

[@soscobra]

Surge having more HP than Juggy is ludicrous. They are ruining the class system completely with this update.

[@minhkhoitran7809]

Wait a minute... this seems familiar... where have I seen it... Oh right, War Robots' recent weapon dmg buff. Tier 1 got no dmg buff, tier 2 got a 10% buff, tier 3 got 20% and tier 4 (minus a few weapon, i.e axit sprayers, explode shotguns, radiation line up,...) got 30%. That brought back a few old meta weapons like EMGs, railguns, and sonic shotguns, but then cryo missles somehow got worse even though they got buff too. But unlike WR, this change of MA is gonna hurt more than it heals. The weak is still weak while the strong just get even stronger. Welp, guess it's about time for my 3rd deletion of the game :))

[@christopherhines4261]

Agree with your assessment. THanks for the honest review and sharing concerns that other players have in the community.

[@kirito0221]

It’s ironic how the lower the rarity of a mech/weapon, the rarer it is

[@gabe9045]

R.I.P. my lancer =*(. I know he wasn't the best but was my personal favorite.

[@uzzielchilel5498]

I use him in my hangar cuz he is very versatile. It basically had the health of MD, Paragon, and Arachnos. I literally was about to upgrade him to 10 energy but now I don’t think so

[@webmoss]

Plarium basically made it more expensive to compete.

[@Wyte_Lytening]

I’m chill if they compensate us. But if not, I feel like they are basically just stealing our money.

[@tsrmmercy836]

Lmao they didn't force you to invest into a mech. Plus, how are they supposed to compensate for your loss? Send you acoins and credits and let you keep the mech? Funny lol. It's a rebalance to make it fair for OTHER players. Not just a cattered group like tengu mains and stalker mains.

[@Neuvillete4.6]

​@@tsrmmercy836 well the point of the game is to invest time and or money

[@Mega-Beast-1-11]

Respect to Gangster Jab A salute of 1000 canons for him And alao thanks to Scape you explained it in a very understanding Manner thank u soo much

[@poonamsharma3810]

Good old Mech Arena, we will miss you 😭

[@its_Tazz]

Even though this gives me a reason to upgrade and use my free Onyx instead of Guardian, I really fear these changes... The mechs already didn't had much HP compared to the weapon's dmg, but it'll be even worse... I was expecting thing like -...% dmg for EM and/or Mortar, +...% dmg for assault weapons and/or Nade, -...% HP for Stalker, +...% HP for Cheetah and/or Shadow and/or Onyx, and no changes for the stuff that doesn't need to (like DL, Surge, Arc, etc...). I'm also very scared that MA is following the path of WR... I quit WR some time ago and played MA bcuz it was more fun and less P2W, but it's starting to become like WR.

[@srosner0]

Really amazing review and great ranting, looks like another money grab from developers same as always

[@79pixiefuryMonkeyKing83]

I know to a lot of players lancer is not worth it, but lancer is the reason I started playing MA. It's a fun little mech that allows you to move around the battle field without worrying about obstacles. I've had so many battles in which my little Pixie Fury (lancer) has dominated, but now, I don't know what to expect. Plarium fcked us in a really bad way. So much for hoping this update would be awesome, it's nothing but garbage. I'll miss my little Pixie Fury (lancer) cause if I can't at least compete with it, it's not worth playing at all

[@marcelw6440]

I feel the same. Since hearing about this I've removed him from my hanger and started practicing with other mechs. Sucks cause I've been playing since beta.

[@yangyue108]

oh you are the old guy from singularity. How's your new house man?

[@79pixiefuryMonkeyKing83]

@@yangyue108 it's been fun so far, but with this new update I don't know how much longer I'll be playing MA

[@79pixiefuryMonkeyKing83]

@@marcelw6440 if I drop lancer, I'll just drop the entire game altogether, cause lancer is what makes the game enjoyable for me. I don't care about the other shit

[@79pixiefuryMonkeyKing83]

@@yangyue108 what do you mean old? Lol

[@dontrachsel3910]

Check up on all your Lancer friends. Praying for you Ronnie!

[@niranjanunnikrishnan6506]

There is still one thing that could make things better and that is the new content delivery system. The only way is if it can make things a bit easier for players to get these legendary mechs and weapons. I hope they took a creative approach on the new progress path at least. It is Unlikely but that is the only way I see

[@ccsleepy8342]

Nah it’s going to be stupid the same shit war robots did it’s going to fucking suck.

[@brianjohns3402]

I used to only look at rarety for pilots and implants. Now I have to pay attention to it on everything.

[@IndigenousVoices]

What we wanted : Balance like in League of Legends What they gave us : RAID Shadow Legends

[@axolotlsaremexicans5447]

Same company

[@Neuvillete4.6]

​@@axolotlsaremexicans5447 different games but they don't care

[@OGdirty1Kanobi]

Well this isn't what I was expecting at all, I was thinking they were gonna rework mechs that needed it and leave others alone hopefully buff some weapons that needed it and nerfed others etc etc... this is just as u said make legendary the stuff to buy and really they coulda left everything the way it was. This doesn't give any credence to originality to hangers or builds its just buff everything but buff legendary the most and get people to chase it... pretty big letdown really. This could have been alot better and done alot better but this just seems like greed on the devs part and looks like tanking sp fell way under the scope of what they care about and will probably be even worse now really

[@gammafighter]

I honestly was hoping this would even the playing field so I would consider coming back, but it's somehow made it worse. Before, I used to get matched against enemies with double my hangar strength. Now, because they have higher rarity stuff than me, it will be like 250% instead. This doesn't just make the main problems with the game worse, it actually makes it harder to make the changes required to fix it. Get out while you still can!

[@HNR.HelloIKillU]

Nah idk if I wanna quit..

[@Darkythepirate]

All mechs should be common at 1 star and 2 star, uncommon at 3 and 4, rare at 5 and 6, legendary at 6 level 7.

[@donjose25]

I appreciate you saying that it feels like Pilots 2.0 bc when pilots dropped, it fundamentally changed the game but we were ok with it for the fact that it was a new gimmick. Now, in retrospect, we see how much time and effort it takes to optimize your hangar now w a coin resets for implants and a really bad system for acquiring them. They’re not even trying to mask anything with this new update, it just looks bad from the get go

[@andrewcarmichael529]

They should have just buffed redox and some of the other small things that needed adjustment not this I agree with what your saying it's nuts I for one have a monster hanger that I've but alot of time money and effort into the builds my sp is around 7425 already I hope it works out The CROW

[@nabiliftakhar2729]

It's time to say goodbye to this game. The mech I had invested since 3 years are all getting wasted. Now rarity matters. After some day mech arena will shutdown like transformer forged to fight.

[@SirDuksalot]

Not taking anything away from the update - it's what should have been done, but now they're purging older versions of mechs in favour of newer ones, getting to the bag 💰 - no arguement. However, THE LEAST Plarium could do now is discontinue the gifting of 'unnecessary' blueprints & allow us to at the very least, trade in mechs we spent thousands of dollars on for A coins, even if as low as 5,000.

[@Icetastesgood]

This is the best update…… For pay to win like me but terrible for f2p

[@PublicBus09]

Checking the table, I don't see any Orion nerfs. They said they were gonna "do some balance changes" about two devlogs ago. Where? Also, another thing. Why does Surge, a mech that can emp an enemy easily by just yoloing itself into an enemy have a longer stun that Zephyr, a mech that needs some time to position itself and fire its weapons? In all honesty, this update was a clustercrap. They had our hopes up, but this was just a buff frenzy. Paragon and Lancer is almost unviable now, rest in peace you two. Mortars got buffed for some reason, although it is understandable a bit considering the humungous and absurd HP buffs to some mechs. Its not all bad though. A couple of things I can say is good is for example, Redox is a bit viable now. It should be able to perform like how a legendary mech should perform now, hopefully. Miniguns now deal 1 milliom damage, I don't understand why. Orion again, balance changes haven't come in. I guess an ability that doesn't punish you if you miss it, has a 2.5x dmg multiplier and shield piercing is balanced. Cheetah with 24 energy cap will be interesting. It would be funny to mount some MR 12s on it. On this note though, I have next to no hope for the rework of the progress path. I don't understand how they could mess that up, but if they do, I might quit.

[@marcelw6440]

I play with Lancer and I'm an absolute menace with it and these changes have annoyed me. I just don't get why they would abandon two of their flagship mechs. They had every opportunity to make them better. Things were already getting tough for me with the addition of all of these 16 energy weapons they've added. Now I've finally given up and removed it from my hanger and started practicing with Orion.

[@nikontruth4227]

I do think MD should get a better heal but as far as the uncommon mechs not getting a change I could only speculate the data might show those are the least used mechs so maybe mech Arena said screw them lol

[@6starFenrir]

They're beginner mechs.. u unlock all of those at the beginning why would u fake those into end game lol

[@nikontruth4227]

@@6starFenrir exactly. I don't use em so I don't care lol. Feels bad for anyone that does.

[@Neuvillete4.6]

​@@6starFenrir panther and killshot were beginner mechs and look what they did

[@daimonx3149]

Few months later they'll introduce drone with own upgrading currency believe me.

[@Neuvillete4.6]

Lol

[@entropystings]

What they need to do is create a new format that caps at rare. It gives a place for newer people to play on a more even footing and creates a new meta. Like pauper in Magic the Gathering.

[@edgardcalderon3016]

Scape211, thanks!. I think you feel the same, I just feel disappointed. It is terrible, I thought they were going to level up averything with an small difference and the pilots were going to do the rest

[@6starFenrir]

Only thing I'm upset about is stalker.. it's one of the best mechs in the game and now it's mid tier same as sg8.. I feel for all the ppl who have light mechs and uncommons that are getting screwed here.. all lancers, MD, juggernauts even tho he got a big buff, guardians, ares.. tbh tho we all should of seen this coming and expected this I know I did.. now for the final screw job of the progress path

[@crazyreptileguy]

hah! now you can feel how getting wrecked by an over-powered mech feels like, lol

[@perfectsolution4]

like you said at 19:15 its a money grab low grade will have copies you have to buy.

[@perfectsolution4]

player retention is gonna be tough after this, should have focused on game modes/ balancing not an overhaul. FFA should be a regular game mode, why not something like Search and Destroy Etc... And achievements thats what keeps people going a goal and options for play style.

[@skyhawk6561]

I have to agree that the idea was good. The execution not so much. Started playing again here recently was enjoying it somewhat. But the update is basically a deathnell for my hanger. Guardian, shadow, ares, longarm, javs, poof no longer worth investing in. Most upset about my Guardian, it’s probably my favorite mech. It just seems like everytime they do a huge update, i just fall further behind. Its gets discouraging. Thanks for your honest review of the update Scape211.

[@zaeem9805]

the best way to rebalance is remove the pilots and implants

[@SimpleMeFPV]

Thx for taking the time to make this video. 👍 as always

[@zerolota7446]

they are doing dirty with stalker stalker is a brawling mech and ofc he needs more hp than any other attacker in the game especially his ability is such a risky thing to utilise while retaliating with opponents

[@hearththewolf]

I’m a f2p that was 2 stars from maxing juggernaut and spent the a coins to get guardian now all those resources are gone and I’m going to have to basically forget having a tank until I can get a brick house now which after the competition war robots dropped the ball with a stupid op thing Mech arena turns around and does the same think basically

[@mr.perfect1er]

I spent so much on Tengu and Stalker...ugh Yeah, had to stop with the comments, cuz I'd leave too much here. Anyways.. Godspeed and Blessings Scape211...Thanks for taking the time to explain all of this to us.

[@initiatingthoughts459]

As long as skills are in effect...personal battle skills,or,mech abilities...it creates an even more enticing element of combat...good luck against my 5 on the field. ;) I'm s2NdramAzein

[@AHDudeGuy]

Looks like Plarium is on track to complete the RuinYourGame&MakePlayersLeave any% speed-run.

[@vortex8215]

Awsome video mate, pity about the topic though. If this stays like it is on test server I don’t think I’ll play much if at all. They could have done this so many other ways and balanced the game but all I see is that this just pushes damage up much further than armour and everything becomes one shot kill. Kinda pointless imo, may as well keep it as it is.

[@r33hab82]

I was gonna rank up stalker but now I’m thinking of going for orion

[@79pixiefuryMonkeyKing83]

My thoughts exactly, it doesn't seem like I'll be playing pass mid March. You know how I feel about lancer and this is just sad

[@vortex8215]

@@79pixiefuryMonkeyKing83 yeah I’m sorry your lancer got the raw end of the stick mate, I don’t think this is fair to anyone who has invested in certain mechs I’ll play a bit but will see how much of an impact this really does make on my hangar. SMC might just be my replacement for MA 😆

[@79pixiefuryMonkeyKing83]

@@vortex8215 thanks man, if all this goes according to what we've been seen, I won't play much either, if any at all. They are literally taking all the fun out ofbthe game. I've come across some hangers that run mostly em rifles and it's annoying, it's not even a match, just pure annoyance and it's just going to get worse with this update

[@NoeticEidetics]

Sad for MD 😢. Will there be other changes such as mech speed?

[@NoeticEidetics]

They should have given MD 24 energy. That would have been rad…

[@NoeticEidetics]

It’s going to be cool using 12 energy weapons with Cheetah, like missiles, javs, rockets. That’s a welcome change.

[@rajaariaoctivano9604]

Just played this game tonight, and the adjustment already in effect. In the simplest way, overall gameplay is not bothered that much despite all the different spec numbers. What change signifficantly are the bots. They use more variation, more weapons (now they use RMs) and their 6 stars or even pink stars. Yes, it's basically FFA bots in all matches. More difficult? Indeed it is.

[@prabhakabdal4127]

Bro u have explained this update with so much details...... I love it bro.....

[@Apex.Maverick]

Honestly What I think 🤔 don’t pour anymore money into this game 😅 I spent around INR 2000 I already feel a hammer on my own toe spending them.. Developers are becoming greedy update after update and forcing everyone to buy mechs and weapons honestly through this stupid updates, approach should be to enable players grind for mechs and weapons but developers just shoving mechs and weapons on every players face to buy. Funny thing is they don’t even try to keep the prices stable for any mech or weapon, they would have different prices on different days for everything 🤣 For example; I bought bastion for just INR 29, where few days ago it was of INR 349 and couple of weeks ago it INR 1099 😅 THIS game is becoming shit day after day, no wonder why we see so many players quitting just after few days into this

[@imnatoshi3193]

Getting eliminated by players is ok, but imagine the OP BOTS, with their goddamn pilots! Jst to survive them, players will have to resort more to PAYING N BUYING! N the rest of the story... Well everyone knows. Sad, if this happens. 😞

[@garryt6356]

Not good. Okay… so it’s not a rebalance… it’s a bigger separation of the tiers of mechs and weapons making it much more difficult for players to compete and develop their hanger without dropping more and more money. For free to play, It took me an age to earn the rewards to get Surge. For those who haven’t managed to get epic or Legendary gear, they will find it so much harder to earn resources to progress.

[@DjHazardous]

*Hey first time on your channel recently started playing mech arena like a month ago i remember pre registering for mech area but came back to this game from, you guess it war robots one thing all should be concerned about is the upcoming global recession that will affect many games in different but negative ways*

[@lemonfruit8395]

I saw what happened to War Robots, with my bare eyes. They added something new meta to the game, which you didn't have in your hangar, you were useless. A few months later they nerf that meta stuff down to the ground, so it will be no relevant anymore. This is basically stealing from the players. And this was just one thing. They made the game mechanic based on setup. No matter how good you are in the game, if you use a "bad" setup, you are dead. They made the older weapons useless, by making the new ones overperforming. In the case of Mech arena, the same starts to happen. They make the old weapons and mechs so bad, that nobody is gonna like them. Like I see Lancers in Division 1. If the update lands, no-one is going to use it anymore.

[@megam1ne]

i might quit even though I started about 2-3 weeks ago, this is because I am not trying to spend real money on some game that might as well be stupid now... I have already spent too much and wasted too much time. Playrium is going just for the short term because they only want money from the few people willing to pay for it, when those people buy it all up the game will die.

[@arrick4132]

Oh My God Plarium, What we’re you thinking?! I think that this is going to change the game (and not in a good away). I also totally agree with all the things you said in the video about how things will be unbalanced and it isn’t fair for people who don’t have good stuff. Long story short, I think we are done for

[@arrick4132]

Not to mention how uncreative they have become

[@lordkiwiz1535]

I just got a Mech Arena ad before watching this...

[@Exiitar]

They just increased numbers and say, it's a balance change??

[@juffertedvirgo5382]

Hey Scape,love your content..just an idea for mech rarity, mechs should be able to upgrade rarity like slingshot to killshot the to a legendary. Juggy to Ares then to Sentinel...lower mechs should reach max upgrade the lowered to 5star after rarity upgrade..tanxs

[@bunaboyjones295]

Well after not really playing for a while this pretty much has confirmed that I probably won't be playing at all. Your review was spot on it's just pilots 2.0

[@DutchSergijko]

Tnx for the vid. U say multiple times that you understand and like the idea behind it, could u explain what the idea is and why this was necessary at all?

[@jimmyers8945]

Gonna be interesting for sure

[@rogerfarrow8650]

There is no point in buying or them designing anything that isn’t epic or legendary… gutted for my tengu, it’s been a favourite for ages! I’m hoping they are going to tweak it as it’s in the PTS

[@mr.perfect1er]

Yeah....wonder how all this is gonna play out after a month of being put in place

[@oceanlegend594]

Sucks for so many that are good with mechs that are not epic or legendary. And I really hope that some legendary that are supposed to be the bomb, actually do get stronger seriously... Thanks for sharing man :)

[@mecharena-rhino4120]

I can only wait and see but as you said it's not looking good

[@ericvarnadore2623]

Will there still be a brick house nothing was said about it

[@petzpetzza-gi5vh]

Nice vdo brother😊

[@RuFFlesGaming]

I've seen lots of ppl get hung up on the "everything got a buff" ordeal. Yes, it got a buff, but how do you think Uncommon's 19% compares to Legendary's 100%? Yea. They really need to fix this #worstMAupdate

[@johnnyhenders178]

Hey Scape. Quick question; I have around 2,300 Acoins and 120,000 xp, but I’m not sure what I should do with the money. Should I save up for Redox or Carbine 12s, or upgrade the rank of Tengu, Killshot, Guardian, or Panther, or just buy the Arc Torrent 10?

[@scape211]

I would focus on panther, killshot, or arc10s. More so killshot and panther but it depends on you and your hangar. But you may even want to save it for the new progress path. Not sure where anyone will be and what you’ll need to upgrade or buy.

[@johnnyhenders178]

Thank you so much, and one ,ore question: do know exactly when the new progress path will come out? I though it was supposed to start on May 1st, but nothing changed and playing against P2W players is hard-especially for F2P players such as myself.

[@Felipe-us7yx]

All mechs, weapons, pilots and implants should be able to work up to epic, its fine to make some mechs harder to work than others, but to have some variety on the field this should be possible. I see battles with 20 people but only 3 or 4 mech types, same for weapons and else...

[@Fwobbed]

Have they honestly taken into consideration the magnitude change of pilots and implants. Base stat changes are bad enough, but the weapon changes are absolutely ridiculous with implants and pilots now. If you disliked pilots before, you'll dislike them even more now! You hope they've just done their maths wrong...

[@sohamchoubey5779]

No no no with new weapon damage and the so much health exporting is really easy players are screwed

[@kirito0221]

Can they change anything until the updates come? Or just cancel the updates, would be fine for me

[@EthanBrown-gl8ih]

I’m on the fence about the grade update but I’m excited for the new form of the progress path

[@PyroRobo]

This all seems very detrimental for the players. I know that they are a business but, this is going to kill a lot of fun for the player base. Free to play is crippled and will be near impossible to continue on. Just like War Robots all over again. Corporate killing their own game despite the players' feedback. This is putting the money first and the fun last. I like this game. I want it to continue. I just want to have fun.

[@tymiller3295]

It's hard to get a high score anymore on that game, and forget strategy if you're Mechs get blown away before you could do anything. The new free-for-all I used to be able to survive at least 7 to 10 seconds before I got killed oh, now you might as well just hang it up

[@jeremytrewin5388]

I was thinking about how hard achievements now become after the change. Also there's less reason to do achievements for certain mechs, as the amount of time required to do them doesn't weigh up to how little time you will use that mech now. What's the point of grinding achievements on a useless mech.

[@TwilightWolfSpirit]

Why don't developers consult with and listen to the KZbin content creators who create content about their games?! The KZbin creators have the pulse of the player and read player comments to know what is needed in game. All that being said...mobile phone game after mobile phone game that I have played continues to be upended by Devs going in the wrong direction...I am about ready to go back to console gaming that CANNOT be changed on a whim. Also, cost per item or per a-coin in game is insane...should a pilot cost $20? A mech or weapon over $10? Seriously, the sum of the parts should NEVER exceed the base cost of a console game of say $60. It's pure greed...it goes way beyond a developer should make money...these folks make money hand over fist... I agree with Scape211s take on everything. Nice video...Thanks GangstaJabs too.

[@AlphaConde-qy7vi]

The paradox being that Plarium provides early access to new releases to KZbinrs, precisely to get their feedback. But they proceeds to NOT heed their suggestions 🤦‍♂

[@TwilightWolfSpirit]

@@AlphaConde-qy7vi preach!

[@victime5646]

No, it's not a good update, I want my money back mech arena, most players just run em rifles, disc launchers, and arc torrents, say goodbye to tengu, shadows, as happy for this one rocket mortars, but we need rocket mortars to counter campers. Well that's all mech arena will be now, em rifle camping game. No one will want to charge center control point, cause em rifles will one shot anything. Panther isn't fast enough to drop barrier to protect center control point for killshot or surge. Panther, redeemer all em rifles, bastion arc torrent 12, and gatecrasher disc launcher 16, and a railgun 16 mech. That's all I see in the new meta. So all sniping players for the most part. So I guess it's time to look into another game, if this is true of being repetitive. No one loves repeating the same thing every day at work. It's boring and that's what I see mech arena becoming, no competition because it will be exactly the same I'm every hanger.

[@danielyorke9286]

Can't believe they did Tengu like that

[@GalileoMechArena]

welp a few months ago i invested a bit over 200 usd on the mechs i like such as m.d ares and lancer i got ares as my only max level mech as he is my number one favorite m.d at 6star lvl 5 and lancer at 5 star level 7 and now im gonna have to dump them all for epic or legendarys if i want to be competitive plus even more recently i invested in shotgun 8s which are probably gonna get dumped those are 6 star lvl 3 or 4 so thats like 200/300 usd in the hole 😑😑😑

[@silverback68]

What Plarium should do is give pilots implants with ultra legendary bonuses for common/uncommon mechs. Like MD turbo heal implant that only benefits lower tier mechs.

[@DeanBrazil]

THEY ARE PROBABLY THINKING "IF THEY PLAYING LOW-TIER MECH THEN THEY ARENT SPENDING AND WHATS THE CHANCE OF THEM BUYING THIS IMPLANT.? AND EVEN IF THEY BUY IMPLANT...THEIR SPENDING STOPS THERE" NOT ENOUGH MONEY TO BE MADE FROM THAT IDEA

[@gabe9045]

At least the Javs still do more damage then the Helix look at the jav 6 vs helix max dmg

[@roddygo6]

Am I the only that's finally glad the ranking of common, rare, epic, legendary will actually make sense now? Do you know of any other game (video, board, trading cards) where the legendary level units aren't a lot stronger than the rest??? How does it make sense to be upset about that? I do hope they come out with different ideas for mechs and weapons though. I was super happy to see all the mech HP increases, but very disappointed they also increased all the other weapons that didn't need damage increase (like EM rifle), that makes no sense. It just offsets the reason to change HP. I think matchmaking might get better. The first thing I thought about seeing the SP of the max hangar was that the SP ranges they use in matchmaking might be better. RN, the only fair matches are within 300 SP difference. Having left War Robots myself, this is nowhere near what they did there. It's much easier to grind for resources in MA. And if want to spend $10, that will get you a whole lot more in MA than WR

[@troygeisel166]

Instead of buffing everything they could move stuff around, for example they could make stalker legendary and buffing stuff that needs it like redox and brickhouse. Also they could nerf ems by removing the double damage chance outside of optimal range, so it becomes a dedicaited sniper weapon.

[@Darkythepirate]

They need to rework the whole system. All mechs that are 1 and 2 stars should be common, 3 and 4 uncommon, 5 and 6 rare, and 6 level 7 legendary. Then distribute hp accordingly. Tanks max between 150 and 200k depending on abilities, attackers max between 120 and 150k, support and scouts between 90 and 120k. Then gage weapons accordingly. Then every mech would be viable in the arena and every weapon would be viable.

[@molybdnum]

They want Legendaries to 'feel' distinctly OP, and doubling their HP will do that. The differentiation of mechs by their unique abilities and creative gameplay is going to matter way less.

[@A_LoweCutTop]

This game is turning into living hell if you play it.

[@Cauliflower4life]

They really pulled a times 5 card💀