Web Too Bloated For You? Try Gopher!

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Mental Outlaw

Mental Outlaw

Күн бұрын

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@spythere
@spythere 4 жыл бұрын
Why don't we just go Terry Davis mode and make our own operating systems from the ground up?
@gokutoriyama3179
@gokutoriyama3179 4 жыл бұрын
Will it have elephants with blue eyes?
@spythere
@spythere 4 жыл бұрын
@@gokutoriyama3179 Of course, the most realistic elephants ever programmed. Remember, God likes elephants.
@geist453
@geist453 4 жыл бұрын
HI WHAT IS AN OPERATING SYSTEM? MY FRIEND BILLY AND I WANT TO HELP
@curbyourshi1056
@curbyourshi1056 4 жыл бұрын
That's Saint Terry to you.
@fernandomota7193
@fernandomota7193 4 жыл бұрын
Remember to run over bioluminescent CIA agents
@Tonsofcraft
@Tonsofcraft 4 жыл бұрын
Web designers on suicide watch
@Demonlordfifer
@Demonlordfifer 4 жыл бұрын
grimmed
@Paco1337
@Paco1337 4 жыл бұрын
Well you still can design it only with html and css that's enough...As he said websites has waaay to much JS running in background
@TorutheRedFox
@TorutheRedFox 4 жыл бұрын
@@Paco1337 js can also be used since js is also text well as long as your browser supports js
@TorutheRedFox
@TorutheRedFox 4 жыл бұрын
@redwill17 wdym free js
@joshuaduplaa9033
@joshuaduplaa9033 4 жыл бұрын
@redwill17 js is open source
@pvc988
@pvc988 4 жыл бұрын
These flat shaded animations… F*cking everywhere.
@curbyourshi1056
@curbyourshi1056 4 жыл бұрын
Depersoning people artwork.
@dorukhan8707
@dorukhan8707 4 жыл бұрын
Depressing, uncanny, lifeless illustration
@curbyourshi1056
@curbyourshi1056 4 жыл бұрын
@@dorukhan8707 Precisely the reason it's used. Excellent description.
@laharl2k
@laharl2k 4 жыл бұрын
Its de default drawing style for sjw. Some more artistic ones evolved and learnt the steven universe style, but they are all lifeless and generic af
@curbyourshi1056
@curbyourshi1056 4 жыл бұрын
@@laharl2k Steven Universe is now banned in my house with early stage teenagers. Watch it.
@eliriekeberg7127
@eliriekeberg7127 4 жыл бұрын
Dude I secretly love gopher. I remember spending a whole weekend just looking up all the gopher sites that people are hosting and just loved how functional and uncluttered it all was
@isaiasprestes9759
@isaiasprestes9759 Жыл бұрын
Old and happy days of Linux Slackware running on a ADM 386DX40 :D
@timurtheterrible4062
@timurtheterrible4062 4 жыл бұрын
Next up: Electric computers too bloated? Try the analytical engine.
@code4720
@code4720 4 жыл бұрын
@@beep1228 lol my computer teacher would love that lmao
@benjimanrich
@benjimanrich 4 жыл бұрын
reject digital, return to analog
@damen1575
@damen1575 4 жыл бұрын
commie
@Luis-lb9df
@Luis-lb9df 4 жыл бұрын
@@beep1228 taiko
@cyber1377
@cyber1377 4 жыл бұрын
Resistors and logic gates are bloat
@trinity_null
@trinity_null 4 жыл бұрын
"HTTP isn't the problem" **goes onto talk about an HTTP alternative as the solution to "the problem"**
@mukkaar
@mukkaar 4 жыл бұрын
Solution being ancient relic with no functionality :D
@FinlayDaG33k
@FinlayDaG33k 4 жыл бұрын
I mean, HTTP isn't the problem, it's the way people use it :p
@FinlayDaG33k
@FinlayDaG33k 4 жыл бұрын
@Richard Vaughn That would still tie in with "it's the way people use it" :p
@natew4724
@natew4724 4 жыл бұрын
@Richard Vaughn he didnt say http = html lol
@monad_tcp
@monad_tcp 4 жыл бұрын
@@FinlayDaG33k so people is the problem, just ban all javascript programmers and you solve it
@DeviousMalcontent2
@DeviousMalcontent2 4 жыл бұрын
Gopher would actually be great from a web accessibility standpoint; just a plain text website would be easy to adapt to any sort of screen reader. I'm surprised I have never heard of it until now, My next question, maybe the topic for another video would be how to spin up a server for it.
@abstractapproach634
@abstractapproach634 2 жыл бұрын
Good Q, and yeah gopher is awesome. No java trackers
@dogdicer1153
@dogdicer1153 5 ай бұрын
No monetization
@abhay_in
@abhay_in 4 жыл бұрын
I guess is still bloated.
@092_deepak_kumar3
@092_deepak_kumar3 4 жыл бұрын
Markdown should be the standard
@zazem4835
@zazem4835 4 жыл бұрын
Groff should be the standard
@092_deepak_kumar3
@092_deepak_kumar3 4 жыл бұрын
@@zazem4835 how about multiple but compatible standards
@abhay_in
@abhay_in 4 жыл бұрын
@Brahma Sharma need to edit the config and gemfile to remove bloat.
@zazem4835
@zazem4835 4 жыл бұрын
@@092_deepak_kumar3 You can program a script with sed to transfer one simtax to.other
@ArmageddonAfterparty
@ArmageddonAfterparty 4 жыл бұрын
I searched for news...now I'm reading some dude's personal account about a raid in DC in 1992.
@etaxalo
@etaxalo 4 жыл бұрын
Fresh news lol
@JohnNiemand
@JohnNiemand 4 жыл бұрын
This made me very nostalgic for Windows 98 times.
@Jamiered18
@Jamiered18 4 жыл бұрын
98 is a lot of times to be nostalgic for Windows!
@doom5895
@doom5895 4 жыл бұрын
Any time pre 2014 is fine for me
@andrewfong101
@andrewfong101 4 жыл бұрын
I think why today’s modern web is so bloated is because devs are putting JavaScript library like React into their page that don’t really need a library to render a page but they ended up still doing it because it’s fun to do so, and big companies are putting trackers and ads into their web page and locking down their API access to force users to use their official spyware or just out right banning folks from using their API to build a non-bloated third party client( I am totally not looking at you Disocrd)
@bignig123
@bignig123 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah I hate how discord uses electron too as I always need it running but what third party non bloated client did they ban users for?
@Wapitiii
@Wapitiii 4 жыл бұрын
@@bignig123 you can always use ripcord
@andrewfong101
@andrewfong101 4 жыл бұрын
@@bignig123 The one I’m using called “Cordless” it’s a terminal base Discord client, and due to the fact that Discord actually terminated some of the core dev accounts, that project is no longer being maintained, said on the project’s readme file, and I believe Mental Outlaw himself have covered this brilliant application on this channel before
@saeedbaig4249
@saeedbaig4249 4 жыл бұрын
Sums up well why the modern web is bloated beyond belief. I want to use 1 neat datepicker, I got to install an entire library, React, npm, etc; I can't take a sip of water without getting thrown in the lake.
@andrewfong101
@andrewfong101 4 жыл бұрын
@@saeedbaig4249 As a NodeJS developer, seeing 1TB of node_modules is part of my daily job
@FredOrSomething
@FredOrSomething 4 жыл бұрын
understandable, have a nice day
@mariozenarju6461
@mariozenarju6461 4 жыл бұрын
Holy shit was that a Just a Pancake reference?
@FredOrSomething
@FredOrSomething 4 жыл бұрын
@@mariozenarju6461 ;-;
@zyansheep
@zyansheep 4 жыл бұрын
My disappointment is nonexistent and my day has improved
@FredOrSomething
@FredOrSomething 4 жыл бұрын
@@waldolemmer yup
@FredOrSomething
@FredOrSomething 4 жыл бұрын
@@zyansheep pog
@ahmedabadabdallah927
@ahmedabadabdallah927 4 жыл бұрын
Wake up babe, Mental Outlaw posted
@thatonegoblin7051
@thatonegoblin7051 4 жыл бұрын
based
@otherssingpuree1779
@otherssingpuree1779 4 жыл бұрын
I read your name as Ahmedabad Allahabad.
@ahmedabadabdallah927
@ahmedabadabdallah927 4 жыл бұрын
@@otherssingpuree1779 lol I should've wrote that instead as my name, I just took the most pajeet sounding name to let google think I'm a tech support scammer
@vaibhavppandey
@vaibhavppandey 4 жыл бұрын
@@ahmedabadabdallah927 dude 🙄, why you copy me sir 🙄
@NMPWN
@NMPWN 4 жыл бұрын
@@ahmedabadabdallah927 sir your name doesn’t sound pajeet sir. Sir your name makes you appear your hiding in a cave in Afghanistan good sir
@arrtemfly
@arrtemfly 4 жыл бұрын
watches distrotube once:
@dxqx3794
@dxqx3794 4 жыл бұрын
I would love if you made a video just on lynx. I try to tell people about it but they just scoff at me. Admittedly I enjoyed it more once I was able to use the solarized theme. Your videos are great, keep it up! Glad I found the channel.
@saeedbaig4249
@saeedbaig4249 4 жыл бұрын
Gopher looks like what old-school sci-fi imagined the internet would be like; like something you'd see on a Star Trek console.
@mcmc9033
@mcmc9033 4 жыл бұрын
That 3d browsing reminded me of a scene in Jurassic Park.
@jeffreyson2820
@jeffreyson2820 4 жыл бұрын
if i remember correctly the 3d browsing thing in jurassic park is an actual unix file manager lmao
@f23anone82
@f23anone82 4 жыл бұрын
Its a UNIX system! I know this!
@lorensims4846
@lorensims4846 4 жыл бұрын
The Unix filesystem browser.
@samuelclemens6841
@samuelclemens6841 3 жыл бұрын
@@jeffreyson2820 Yes, it's called FSN. There is actually a Wikipedia entry about it
@attilavs2
@attilavs2 5 ай бұрын
There was a feature in Firefox to view HTML as 3D, it was just removed ages ago (you can still get archives though)
@NoobBasically
@NoobBasically 4 жыл бұрын
Have a single page website showing only a couple of photos and some text Still puts computers to a dismal crawl for their artsy-fartsy design things and animations Isn't this what ultimately killed friendster and myspace? Bloated pages that consume a metric ton of resources that is not even indicative of the actual value said page actually has (like those stupid meaningless "landing pages").
@egg5474
@egg5474 4 жыл бұрын
I would say that's mostly due to the framework being used usually, where the developer uses one that is intended for much more ambitious things without cutting out unused features
@insidetrip101
@insidetrip101 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe I'm misunderstanding you here, but this is going to happen irrespective of the protocol being used. There is no way to curate the relevance of data by means of the protocol without restricting the freedom (and therefore use cases) of the protocol so much that its use is so niche that it ends up being all but useless. It happens on http(s), and it happens on gopher. There's no way to stop it.
@NoobBasically
@NoobBasically 4 жыл бұрын
@@egg5474 Which I why I hate the whole JS "framework-hell" because it ultimately tends to stagnate ACTUAL advances in JS. Most of the things said frameworks are useful for are already addressed in JS but people are so reliant on their frameworks that exists for problems that doesn't even exist anymore. smh
@NoobBasically
@NoobBasically 4 жыл бұрын
​@@insidetrip101 Probably right, people will find a way to personalize their own content irrespective of the medium (which is a good thing). However the medium itself can dictate in what ways the creativity is expressed. My gripes is that sites are bloated as hell to look sleek and minimalistic (again with those "landing pages") which is also copy-pasted towards the broad spectrum of websites. Which is not neccessarily a bad thing, I like some minimal and engaing neocities pages that shows it's design is in tandem with it's content, with running on mostly vanilla JS and CSS. Sure enough geocities sites were hot-garbage but they were mostly personalized hot-garbage and they are upfront (no hidding behind burger menus hiding more menus and more menus). Mostly, Most sites look and feel the same, and some of those design desicions I feel is just to "look kewl and new" as opposed to having a real utility to it. IMHO
@brodriguez11000
@brodriguez11000 4 жыл бұрын
@@NoobBasically :"However the medium itself can dictate in what ways the creativity is expressed." The computer demo scene comes to mind.
@ElJosher
@ElJosher 4 жыл бұрын
Corporate flat art is really a cancer to this world. I hate that shit. It feel like I’m being treated as a child by these corporations.
@teamrabbitalec
@teamrabbitalec 4 жыл бұрын
Good thing that most normies are like children when it comes to the web.
@pumpkinjutsu1249
@pumpkinjutsu1249 4 жыл бұрын
I like how everyone right now is talking about gemini and gopher ;p
@nnywadd
@nnywadd 4 жыл бұрын
I love how "everyone" is the holy trinity of chad based blackman , default runescape character, and DT.
@JINORU_
@JINORU_ 4 жыл бұрын
@@nnywadd We've all been YT Algorithm'd
@rizkyadiyanto7922
@rizkyadiyanto7922 4 жыл бұрын
@@JINORU_ yeah.. all those talk about freedom and privacy, and we are in youtube
@SunIsLost
@SunIsLost 4 жыл бұрын
Idk. why I don't get DT gemini in recommended actually.
@ashwinalagiri-rajan1180
@ashwinalagiri-rajan1180 3 жыл бұрын
this demonstrates the echo chamber that is created by auto moderated sites like youtube and facebook. They create a feeling that whatever you're interested in is the most prevalent thing, even making it seem like its true.
@Alex-yq2uy
@Alex-yq2uy 4 жыл бұрын
also DistroTube made a vid about gemini
@xijinpingpong4426
@xijinpingpong4426 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the video was very similar. Mental probably got his "inspiration" from there.
@MemeScreen
@MemeScreen 4 жыл бұрын
Gemini will be preferred when they finish the protocol
@tato-chip7612
@tato-chip7612 4 жыл бұрын
technically gemini is a more modern gopher. pretty nice ngl.
@cranknlesdesires
@cranknlesdesires 4 жыл бұрын
@@MemeScreen Like I'm using it already, I don't believe much is going to change.
@Diego35HD
@Diego35HD 4 жыл бұрын
Now you can roleplay as a Fallout character while browsing the web
@cathacker13
@cathacker13 4 жыл бұрын
ok I understand the whole long running joke in the linux community about everything being bloatware that needs to be eliminated, but this has gone too far
@cathacker13
@cathacker13 4 жыл бұрын
@lmao this isn't a name is a single quark enough?
@jimmehjimmson8876
@jimmehjimmson8876 4 жыл бұрын
@@cathacker13 not enough. I hereby define the ordinal relation of bloatedness on all things (including quarks) and "s" with "s" ∉ all things. It may use only the comaprison operator
@cathacker13
@cathacker13 3 жыл бұрын
@spitemim yeah I kinda agree with all of these now that I had time to think about it, but sites taking minutes to load? Are you still using dial up or what?
@cathacker13
@cathacker13 3 жыл бұрын
@spitemim fair enough
@hikerwolfspaine8200
@hikerwolfspaine8200 4 жыл бұрын
The web might be better if we had been principled and left html and css alone, developing a new format that isn't strapped together by half-meg sized javascript packages.
@rageagainstthebath
@rageagainstthebath 4 жыл бұрын
When coding (hobby stuff), I usually go to tty1 to keep focused. Using tmux to split screen and vim as an editor, I also extensively use lynx to duckduckgo stuff I don't know how to code. Works very well, stackoverflow and cpp reference ale perfectly readable, load times are incredible, and no need to grab a mouse at all. From this perspective, I see no reason to dig into some abandoned protocol, artificially kept alive by a flock of nerds. Lynx does a great job if it comes to quick lookup of things and offers pros of gopher in http world.
@Podzhagitel
@Podzhagitel 2 жыл бұрын
o kurwa… we got a professional here…
@a0um
@a0um 2 жыл бұрын
I like the comment except for “…abandoned protocol, artificially kept alive by a flock of nerds”. Internet is a medium to connect communities. It’s incorrect to say this protocol has been “abandoned”. It may have been abandoned by many people, but clearly it’s not been abandoned full stop or we would not have this video in the first place. Then you say “artificially kept alive”. Again, the interest of a small group is not more or less artificial than the one of any group. They may have their values, priorities, and preferences. It’s good to know how you are working around the uses of the existing web. Exaggerated claims and disparaging words (“flock”) are not useful for anyone, like yourself, that appreciate distraction free browsing. BTW, the “Gemini protocol” is similar to Gopher and worth checking out if interested in meeting likeminded people.
@uchennaofoma4624
@uchennaofoma4624 2 жыл бұрын
I totally wanted to this. But now I'm stuck as a nextjs dev 😖😖. So, sadly, I need to use chrome. If it ain't chrome I ain't working on it. Backwards compatibility most especially for older browsers always makes my head hurt 🤕.
@wisteela
@wisteela Жыл бұрын
I love Lynx and Gopher. I use the app which is just called gopher.
@wompastompa3692
@wompastompa3692 4 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of Terry A. Davis' take on simplicity vs. complexity. A lot of shit is way too clusterfucked these days.
@bALDbOY85
@bALDbOY85 4 жыл бұрын
I first learned about Gopher when I was a wee lad using SDF's freeshell in the beginning of the 2010s. I instantly fell in love, and credit it with spurring my motivation to use the web in a minimalistic way. Very happy you're talking about it and spreading Gopher awareness!
@Acetyl53
@Acetyl53 5 ай бұрын
KZbin is recommending this to me because I've spoken aloud and thought of badger and groundhog in recent days. It finally kicked over a certain threshold and now here it is.
@arandomfox999
@arandomfox999 4 жыл бұрын
"Go into the woods and milk a cow." City-boyo confirmed.
@LuisA-qm8om
@LuisA-qm8om 4 жыл бұрын
Bugman !!1!1!!!!11
@peenywallie
@peenywallie 4 жыл бұрын
Mental Outlaw is a city slicker with a fancy German car
@ArturdeSousaRocha
@ArturdeSousaRocha 5 ай бұрын
Wow! What a blast from the past! I actually used it for a short time before the HTTP web.
@xasmaniusvolk8416
@xasmaniusvolk8416 4 жыл бұрын
3:10 Intel nowadays actually puts in Like 0.01% of the resources for developing CPUs and the rest for restricting them for profit maximization and changing their Logo all the darn time.......
@laharl2k
@laharl2k 4 жыл бұрын
On the internet changin your avatar is like changing who you are......why would companies want to change their logo? Werent they the best since the bigining? This is my og avatar, im still the same person, i didnt need to "modernize" myself, i never regret of my past.
@laharl2k
@laharl2k 4 жыл бұрын
@@username6338 id rather think that its them that are not sure of who they are instead.
@breadmoth6443
@breadmoth6443 4 жыл бұрын
I haven't heard of gophar in years, I thought it was dead.
@amir3515
@amir3515 3 жыл бұрын
Is it gophar or gopher?
@benargee
@benargee 4 жыл бұрын
Right, so the same minimal site can be made for HTTP. Seems like the page source is the problem and not the protocol. Gopher is only fast because it's features suited an era where computers and connections were 1000x slower. This only seems useful for terminal only users, but this should be done over http as its already used to serve alternative data through APIs. Many sites already have a mobile url, so why not a render text only url? Many features can still be embedded that can be interacted with. Like underlined or alternate coloured hyperlinks that can be accessed via enumerated numbers or tabbing to highlight them first.
@Endless_Jaguar
@Endless_Jaguar Жыл бұрын
I'm new to most of this, so I understood very little of what you just said. On the bright side, I understood most of the video and am downloading lynx right now.
4 жыл бұрын
11:00 I'd say it's an Asus eee pc from 2008, one of the first modern netbooks
@alkaupadhyay7650
@alkaupadhyay7650 4 жыл бұрын
It really is eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee But still it was pretty small
@KitOkunari
@KitOkunari 4 жыл бұрын
what's next? "computers are bloated for you? try smoke signals"
@piggeywig2000
@piggeywig2000 4 жыл бұрын
What an amazingly pointless thing. No wonder HTTP killed it
@cyber1377
@cyber1377 4 жыл бұрын
Tfw no multimedia
@sourcream9749
@sourcream9749 4 жыл бұрын
@@cyber1377 Tfw can't watch porno - Pointless
@laharl2k
@laharl2k 4 жыл бұрын
The internet is for pron, unless you are on gopher.
@092_deepak_kumar3
@092_deepak_kumar3 4 жыл бұрын
@@laharl2k ASCII images kek
@samuelclemens6841
@samuelclemens6841 3 жыл бұрын
@@cyber1377 I mean you could convert an image into a string of ASCII text and then have that string rendered as an image by casting the string into a byte array.
@dustboxednorth
@dustboxednorth 4 жыл бұрын
Was waiting for someone to cover this!
@hokusman100
@hokusman100 Жыл бұрын
I remember getting weather reports off Gopher back in the mid-90s. It’s honestly surprising to learn that it’s still in use
@FunctionGermany
@FunctionGermany 4 жыл бұрын
this is basically the "reject humanity, return to monke" meme
@go_better
@go_better Жыл бұрын
Wow, thanks. I didn't know about this. What I like here is little amount of computing power to do things. To go for used, more accessible machines. It has it's own charm. Also, I thought it would be awesome to play Cyberpunk in ASCII symbols.
@albster9389
@albster9389 4 жыл бұрын
HELL YA! He is finally talking about gopher.
@zacomit3055
@zacomit3055 4 жыл бұрын
I know you said becoming Amish was at the extreme, but this is very close.
@masamune5710
@masamune5710 4 жыл бұрын
Right after DistroTube’s Gemini video huh?
@hedgeearthridge6807
@hedgeearthridge6807 4 жыл бұрын
I honestly like Kenny's vids on topics better. DT is more geared to the superusers and the true linux autists. Kenny makes things easy for regular linux anons like me to understand. That's the Chad power of Gentoo users. Outside of mongolian basketweaving websites, they seem to be the most understanding of the fact that not all linux users are enthusiast powerusers with the 'tism.
@linuxatheist5361
@linuxatheist5361 4 жыл бұрын
You think KZbinrs can't just happen to be working on similar videos at the same time?
@troler7147
@troler7147 4 жыл бұрын
@@linuxatheist5361 they can and it's called the twin film effect
@joaco190
@joaco190 4 жыл бұрын
@@hedgeearthridge6807 well said mate
@WildVoltorb
@WildVoltorb 4 жыл бұрын
Chris Were Digital just made a gemini video as well. What a timing, huh
@zenchess
@zenchess 4 жыл бұрын
Great video! I've been using the internet since about 1993 or 94 and I remember references to gopher but I never actually used it.
@jamescavet7835
@jamescavet7835 Жыл бұрын
Until I recently joined SDF, I had forgotten that I even knew about Gopher considering I was a kid when Gopher was the thing because the actual WWW hadn't taken off yet. I don't have many memories of it but it's a far different place now than then, I can tell you that; when people stop needing something, it becomes a hobby for the rest of us. Not a bad thing by half but it makes it hard to justify telling people about it because most either won't care unless their favorite x/y/z thing is on it or just because it has more limited functionality than what we've created over here or hell, even if they are interested it's still not viable because it's so niche. I've read so many people's phlog's on Gopher that talk about them leaving because they know no one is around to read it anymore. It's sad cause I like Gopher (and Gemini) but it is a bit of a curiosity in this day and age; a place so hard right from the way we do things.
@mattj65816
@mattj65816 4 жыл бұрын
I remember Gopher vs. Mosaic when I started college in 1994. I preferred the web because it was so much more like HyperCard. My first "web site" was a 640x480 GIF with a server side imagemap. Perhaps I made the wrong choice.
@wojtekpolska1013
@wojtekpolska1013 4 жыл бұрын
If someone thinks this extremely ancient, i gotta remind you that some BBS'es still exist
@VankhV93
@VankhV93 4 жыл бұрын
Pro tip to get rid of this reverb: *blanket*
@andreavergani7414
@andreavergani7414 4 жыл бұрын
Love it. Thanks for shine light on this!
@pvt.ltd.yt_industries
@pvt.ltd.yt_industries Жыл бұрын
this is great. not a replacement to http but it's crazy to me that you'll be able to see wikipedia and hopefully wiktionary with the tty, i could have wiktionary open up in my vim config like how man pages open up (at the very least in one of those neovim terminals (i think vim has it too now) but ideally i'd like for it to open up in a normal buffer like man pages do, theres probably a plugin somewhere if its too complicated), so i dont need to open a browser to check spellings or meanings and i can just use the equivalent of shift-k.i dont even post that much on the public http internet (barring youtube mainly) so there's not that issue of websites being older. seems really promising as long as there are servers somewhere close enough to me.
@andreaskalhofer7353
@andreaskalhofer7353 4 жыл бұрын
Nice Video keep this up man! Always enjoy your videos much!
@Patrick-ou4de
@Patrick-ou4de 4 жыл бұрын
It's literally been 7 seconds
@andreaskalhofer7353
@andreaskalhofer7353 4 жыл бұрын
@@Patrick-ou4de I know haha
@thelongslowgoodbye
@thelongslowgoodbye 4 жыл бұрын
That netbook is an Asus EeePC. I used to have one in the early 2000s.
@Calajese
@Calajese 4 жыл бұрын
I wonder if there's an image board on gopher, or just a board I guess
@test-cp8uz
@test-cp8uz 4 жыл бұрын
gopher gaming when
@deutandev1728
@deutandev1728 4 жыл бұрын
ASCII art
@lorensims4846
@lorensims4846 4 жыл бұрын
Cool! I heard a lot about Gopher in the early '90s, I think I even had an app to search gopher sites for the Mac but I didn't know how or why to use it. Never heard of it since. Please note the command line browser 'links' won't work with gopher, but 'lynx' will.
@robbystrange4772
@robbystrange4772 4 жыл бұрын
Yo outlaw, didnt know you ventured around gopherspace!
@slavko5666
@slavko5666 4 жыл бұрын
Talk about single GPU pass trough in Gentoo. There's a post on r/Gentoo with the title: gentoo single gpu vfio passthrough scripts
@usmanahmed3035
@usmanahmed3035 4 жыл бұрын
No
@bargyarr
@bargyarr 4 жыл бұрын
Yes
@mruwuowo4599
@mruwuowo4599 4 жыл бұрын
No
@ahuman6130
@ahuman6130 4 жыл бұрын
Yes
@kloa4219
@kloa4219 4 жыл бұрын
yes
@nathanmannpiano5621
@nathanmannpiano5621 4 жыл бұрын
Video on IPFS soon?
@smeake
@smeake 4 жыл бұрын
Yes please
@Cerv3ra
@Cerv3ra 4 жыл бұрын
Okay so you go to Only Text to avoid bloat and then you port it to VR.. Makes sense. Not, really, but why?
@fuseteam
@fuseteam 4 жыл бұрын
yeah, if you're going vr why not a bit more creative
@sinisterpisces
@sinisterpisces 3 жыл бұрын
It was the 1990s. Everything was getting ported to VR. Everything. (We just weren't pretentious enough to call it the "metaverse" then outside of actual Neal Stephenson books.)
@Destide
@Destide 4 жыл бұрын
Hex DSL crowd are promoting Gemini pretty well at the mo. Great to see developments in both camps.
@UntouchablePlayers
@UntouchablePlayers 3 жыл бұрын
Love the Reviews/Tutorials
@dkf2711
@dkf2711 3 жыл бұрын
I have the older model of this Asus Eee PC, doesn't have a camera above the screen, just a speaker. Same CPU as this one though, some Intel Atom from decades ago. I use it as a Pi-hole DNS server. Works great. Built in UPS :D that lasts about 15 min, enough to move cables around.
@2beJT
@2beJT 10 ай бұрын
10:45 - This looks like Jurassic Park when the girl gets on Ned's computer.
@goldibollocks
@goldibollocks 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly, 90% of websites are basically unusable in my eyes. After clicking away cookie pop-ups and 2-3 ad-popups you still have to scroll through content that is outmatched 2:1 by more ads including auto-playing videos, etc. Absolute crap imho.
@fargone1878
@fargone1878 4 жыл бұрын
The virtual gopherspace made me think of that one unix file manager best known from the first Jurassic Park.
@BasedPureblood
@BasedPureblood 3 жыл бұрын
"We have you surrounded! Come Accept our Cookies!!" "I HATE JAVASCRIPT I HATE JAVASCRIPT."
@candybluebird
@candybluebird 5 ай бұрын
Introducing Gopher as the internet without bloated UI and then following up with a ridiculous 3d UI for gopher is very funny to me.
@tdtrecordsmusic
@tdtrecordsmusic 4 жыл бұрын
I will never be able to see flat corporate panel art in the same way.
@3141859
@3141859 4 жыл бұрын
I had almost forgotten gopher existed, but it was useful in the '90s
@easybee0
@easybee0 4 жыл бұрын
Rule 5835729482: if it exists, it's bloated
@MartinDerTolle
@MartinDerTolle 4 жыл бұрын
An essential step to going back to monke is to go back to 90. Reject modern graphics and the industry, become 90 and be closer to monke.
@dragofx_5472
@dragofx_5472 4 жыл бұрын
Yo, you should try Broswh, I haven't tried it but it says it can render HTML5, CSS3, JS, videos (yes) as well as WebG, it's hilarious. All in the terminal. There's only so much you can do on a terminal though.
@rageagainstthebath
@rageagainstthebath 4 жыл бұрын
And it runs firefox in the background to actually load and render the site. Tried that, and I stick to lynx for minimalistic experience, or firefox in a small Wayland compositor for true experience.
@dragofx_5472
@dragofx_5472 4 жыл бұрын
@@rageagainstthebath yup, it's quite bloated and I didn't even bother installing it, I'll also stick with my standalone browser. But it looks like it's fun.
@yuli2042
@yuli2042 4 жыл бұрын
Next: display web images using ASCII chars in Gopher.
@bishalnaik2011
@bishalnaik2011 4 жыл бұрын
It's all good idea but , whenever I try for a better way like degoogling my phone , or trying searx or trying gopher , I m limited to my options , which sux , even though I want all these
@liamattard3899
@liamattard3899 4 жыл бұрын
Can you put some videos about crypto? Would like to hear about your tools and opinions
@nngnnadas
@nngnnadas 4 жыл бұрын
well it's also seems to be only ASCII text. No IPA for instance. Unicode is inportant...
@Yadobler
@Yadobler 4 жыл бұрын
Lmao I was confused thinking how golang was gonna debloat the Web. I realised gopher is the mascot of golang and this is not that
@sethsrc792
@sethsrc792 4 жыл бұрын
My life is bloated, what can i do?
@byekou
@byekou 4 жыл бұрын
end life support
@runneypo
@runneypo 4 жыл бұрын
live in the woods in isolation
@ilyasabi8920
@ilyasabi8920 4 жыл бұрын
sudo commit rm -rf my life/*
@sethsrc792
@sethsrc792 4 жыл бұрын
@@runneypo is that a Luke Smith reference?
@runneypo
@runneypo 4 жыл бұрын
@@sethsrc792 no its a ted kazcynski reference. who is "luke smith"?
@easybee0
@easybee0 4 жыл бұрын
This laptop is an EeePC 700. It has a 633 or 572MHz cpu and 512 MBs of ram.
@darren537
@darren537 4 жыл бұрын
Gemini is a bit heavier but It loads pages quickly as well
@cheaterman49
@cheaterman49 4 жыл бұрын
Well the machine was an EeePC, it was written on it :-) it's super low spec indeed, and it was running the app at hundreds of frames per second, not bad!
@hrnekbezucha
@hrnekbezucha 4 жыл бұрын
Speaking of cool protocols, Gemini.
@Zenas521
@Zenas521 7 ай бұрын
1) Gopher will always be a thing as long as their are blind people. 2) That guys computer is a Eee PC by Asus. He is most probably running Linux those some had the option of Windows XP. The Eee PC is the first sub-laptop outside of Japan. They ran from 2007 to 2013 with a reemergence in 2015.
@Omlet221
@Omlet221 4 жыл бұрын
11:00 you can see it says Eee pc on the bottom
@SlideRSB
@SlideRSB 4 жыл бұрын
Gopher? Really? Come on. I thought everyone was going crazy for Gemini now.
@khashayarr
@khashayarr 4 жыл бұрын
How are images considered "bloat"?
@Marc42
@Marc42 Жыл бұрын
10:48 Bro, the ASUS EeePC is the OG netbook! :)
@amizednix
@amizednix 4 жыл бұрын
Loved this!
@mukkaar
@mukkaar 4 жыл бұрын
Http is not bloated, it's superior in every way. It's ad culture and website creators that make the bloat happen. If gopher actually became the protocol it would have just as much ads and stuff.
@WodkaEclair
@WodkaEclair 4 жыл бұрын
He specifically said http is not the problem
@Endless_Jaguar
@Endless_Jaguar Жыл бұрын
It's not http's fault there's bloat and it's also not my girl's fault she has an annoying voice. And just like my girl, sometimes I need a break from http.
@thatonegoblin7051
@thatonegoblin7051 4 жыл бұрын
Do Gemini next babes
@comradepeter87
@comradepeter87 Жыл бұрын
I don't quite get the use of gopher websites. Any entity willing to offer a Gopher site already has good faith, and won't put ads in their HTTP alternative.
@camerongroves1886
@camerongroves1886 4 жыл бұрын
That's an Intel atom netbook Great video
@bjornelenfors2039
@bjornelenfors2039 4 жыл бұрын
Gee... I remember using gopher before both Linux and the Web was invented... now I feel slightly dated.
@geist453
@geist453 4 жыл бұрын
HI DOES ANYONE KNOW WHEN THEY ARE GOING TO UPGRADE WINDOWS 95? MY FRIEND BILLY AND I THINK THAT ITS TIME BECAUSE 95 WAS ABOUT 26 YEARS AGO.
@末茶98
@末茶98 4 жыл бұрын
they've actually put the upgrades on their www page, maybe check there or directly in a store
@MasterFancyPants
@MasterFancyPants Жыл бұрын
The 3D reminds me of the girl navigating the file system in Jurassic Park. lol
@GuerreroUrbano100
@GuerreroUrbano100 Жыл бұрын
Fun fact, that 3d file system in Jurassic Park is real. it was a Silicon Graphics workstation (using IRIX, the SGI System V based Unix) running the three dimensional file system browser fsn ("File System Navigator", pronounced "fusion").
@BriefNerdOriginal
@BriefNerdOriginal 4 жыл бұрын
Don't know what to think... I cannot see any of the 99.99999% of people I know (included PhDs in math, Open Science advocates, and similar) to ever even start using Gopher sites.
@LedoCool1
@LedoCool1 4 жыл бұрын
I went on checking gemini for now. I think I will even run a website like that.
@092_deepak_kumar3
@092_deepak_kumar3 4 жыл бұрын
@LastName Almaember link?
@plexureiscool
@plexureiscool 4 жыл бұрын
@LastName Almaember share pls
@potatolord2858
@potatolord2858 4 жыл бұрын
@LastName Almaember link plox
@LedoCool1
@LedoCool1 4 жыл бұрын
@LastName Almaember can you suggest any docs to learn gemini? For example I'm still struggling to understand how would I make user form akin to one that is present on gus.guru search.
@Bullminator
@Bullminator 4 жыл бұрын
I kinda wonder if there is a dark web version now :P
@nomagno
@nomagno 4 жыл бұрын
Apparently you can setup Gopher Onion servers (So, TOR level encryption), but no one really knows if they are actually secure
@curbyourshi1056
@curbyourshi1056 4 жыл бұрын
27 people clearly miss Shockwave Flash.
@benjaminemde3637
@benjaminemde3637 4 жыл бұрын
Gopher? GOPHER AS IN GOPHER-PROJECT?? DANGANRONPA V3 FANBASE ASSEMBLE!!!
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