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[@WebDM]

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[@markuswelander8551]

The best rewards were the corpses the necromancer animated along the way.

[@michaelramon2411]

"Do a gig economy thing." ...I now want to run a campaign where the PCs are gig workers for various supernatural entities. (That actually reminds me of a joke campaign concept I once saw, which is that there's a spell called "Summon Adventurer", and the PCs are said adventurers. They work mechanically like summoned creatures and can't permanently die, but every adventure is someone summoning them and demanding they do something. Sometimes it's epic, sometimes it's "please save my village" and sometimes it's REALLY, really petty. "Set off that trap for me, please.")

[@Bluecho4]

The idea of a DnD world with a modern tech level, where adventurers get pinged on their smart phones to go handle monster problems, really tickles my fancy. Like an Uber driver, except instead of a car, you run around with a sword. But the bit about adventurers being summoned to deal with other people's problems reminds me of Magic: The Gathering. I had an idea for a DnD game set in the MtG universe, where the PCs are summoned by mages to solve problems or clear out dungeons. (Technically, in MtG, summoning works by creating a magical copy of a creature the mage has seen before; the original character doesn't go anywhere, and has no agency. But presumably this campaign would give the PCs some measure of leeway when it comes to achieving the goals they're given.) Come to think of it, another way to use this idea would be a Dark Souls campaign. They have summon signs, that people put down so others can summon them to fight. Or else enter covenants to have them summoned automatically when needed. This, I think, would work really well, as it would be something the characters do _in addition to_ their normal adventuring, and as an opt-in mechanic.

[@DStrormer]

OMG y'all did my suggestion AND slipped a Tenacious D reference in the opening!? Did we just become best friends? 😄

[@WebDM]

Certainly closer than we were before?!

[@therealjoshT]

@@WebDM as long as there’s a record deal, we’ll always be friends 😉

[@tsunamiditka5776]

You could say it was a Tribute. You gotta believe me.

[@jovax0450]

Man, i wish i was there

[@Morec0]

Sounds like a matter of opinion.

[@declanandrewbell]

has anyone else been finding the latest episodes from WebDM and MCDM and all that just super on point and helpful lately?

[@greylithwolf]

Oh my God, a post-COVID celebration collaboration between the two channels would be freaking WILD.

[@SnarkyRogue]

One of my favorite things to hand out besides magic items is feats that normally go unpicked. Some of the ones in the PHB never see the light of day because they're simply a waste of an ASI, but they make for excellent bonus perks/flavor for players who want a little spice in their builds without sacrificing the good stuff.

[@WebDM]

Most def!

[@theosophicalwatermelons8181]

This is why I put books in every dungeon I create. Exposition itself can be a great reward, especially for any wizard or cleric.

[@WebDM]

Absolutely!

[@steamtasticvagabond474]

Even a useless bit of text could lodge itself in a player’s head, and can be something to call back to in future

[@AuntLoopy123]

I gave my players a couple of novels. I am waiting for them to discuss the stories. Histories and lore are good, too, because it opens up possibilities of history repeating itself, or ancient enemies coming back.

[@roar104]

Thanks for covering this. Always nice to hear how you'd go about things, especially stuff that falls under the classic "here's some ideas homebrew it yourselves because DM materials don't make as much money" issue with 5e books

[@conniptions3069]

My favorite gift I gave to a player. Was the god of chaos (think sheogorath from elder scrolls) gave my druid the ability to shapeshift into monstrosities from the monster manual. In exchange he had to give up his legacy. No one, even in the party, remembered his name. But he still did it. And he burned it his one wish to reverse it. Turned a combat focused gamer and got him to roleplay and we both loved that moment

[@howdidthisgethere119]

As a reward, you're given the Brooch of Life. It has three golden leaves inlaid with a bright emerald in the center of each one. At the base is a single thorn of a dull red color. The giver tells you it will revive the wearer 3 times in death, but must not be used any more after that. [after each use, the green stones grow dim one-by-one. After all 3 uses, the red thorn grows brighter. If used again, the PC is revived, but is not themselves, instead becoming the new NPC BBEG Lich with all the skills, gear, and knowlege they had before]

[@AuntLoopy123]

Oooooh!

[@TheGreyProphet]

For your Valor in saving our fair kingdom I grant you fine adventurers a series of plot hooks that definitely won't be used against you don't worry about it. Also here's a complimentary vizier with a lust for power, have fun!

[@WebDM]

EXACTLY

[@MrSilvUr]

It's like I always say: Grand Vizier, Grand Adventure.

[@TheGreyProphet]

@@MrSilvUr exactly, a well run smooth operation is fun for a single section but if there's no political backstabbing or power grabs then why even bother? (Obviously your character wants the calm but for the player that just means a retired PC)

[@cameronlloyd9752]

My new system for monetary rewards is to replace them with what I call 'Items of Value'. These are heavily inspired by Oddities from Numenera. Some sort of easily carried trinket that would have significant value but be difficult to break up, or lose value if you did. A bar of gold; a magic music box; a rare comic book; a piece of jewelry, etc. These get used whenever you need to barter for something significant. For most adventuring expenses - meals, rooms, clothes, repairing equipment, resupplying, etc. - we just handwave and abstract, "This is roughly how wealthy you all are." But if a character wants something important - specialty equipment; bribing an official; giving a gift to ingratiate yourself with the prince; etc. - they need to use an Item of Value.

[@wells235]

Numenera is awesome. I’m definitely going to use this idea.

[@earthwalker2283]

Don't forget when giving these out that they make the hordes of gold more valuable because now you can give gifts and donations for more favor and reputation or upgrade and expand your strongholds and land

[@TheKazragore]

I used non-loot rewards in my first campaign. One player ended up as Champion of the Raven Queen so I granted them something akin to the raven queen warlock pact feature. Another player inherited an estate and title from their family's home city. I like non-loot rewards because they can invest your players in the *world* and not just the game.

[@corporalsoletrain2132]

"I grant you the deed to Castle Vernar." "Oh my gods, sire that's very gen... wait, wasn't that overrun by orcs?" "It is now your problem. The rent assessor is heading out there in a month so... chop chop, Count Stabislav."

[@natedunn51]

Or giving them ownership of another valuable asset that is really a debt trap.

[@maromania7]

You've got my gears turning now. Magically bound to it makes me think "The party gets lair actions"

[@Viper3220]

My players absolutely loved Supernatural blessings/boons. You clear out some undead for a church of selune and they might reward you with a blessing of favor that allows you to add radiant damage to your weapon for 1 minute - 2 times per short rest as a bonus action etc They're not locked down to a specific weapon, and they feel like their strength comes more from who they are and what they've done instead of a couple magical trinkets.

[@Blairrows]

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[@WebDM]

Thanks for the tip!

[@crimsonhawk52]

Something I'm trying in my new campaign: I really like making maps, so as rewards on top of loot, my players are gonna get maps. Maps inside tombs of ancient orders to show locations of other tombs of the same order. Maps of the path of conquest of the founder of the long ago fallen empire. Maps of mineral locations, maps of animal migration patterns. Then later the warlock's patron can tell her she needs to go to the other tombs. The druid can find the leylines of natural power that the animals follow and the minerals form around. Maps that the players have to synthesize in order to get more stuff.

[@AuntLoopy123]

OOOOH! Building blocks! I love it!

[@rikusauske]

My world is a megacity. A combination of renown and notoriety I've found have been very useful

[@WebDM]

Awesome!

[@vectorshaman338]

Gave the sorcerer in my party the magnificent mansion spell (Wizard Only) after meeting the mad mage in curse of strahd and helping him defeat Strahd. A year later and it's helped the party so much, and he feels he's contributing more to the party like the cleric so overall super win. The first few times he cast it, it was more like a magnificent hut w/ 1 transparent servant. The more he practiced the the bigger it got and the more servants appeared.

[@nicklance4788]

That tenacious D reference was everything for me

[@WebDM]

Sometimes we gotta come out from the side hatch and show our love for em

[@drewgonzo9800]

Two leaders, two kiiiiings!

[@ghostranger5890]

I really wish that they would release an official supplement / sourcebook for strongholds, noble titles, land owning, and all of that stuff. Maybe combined with mechanics for starting an organization (A Guild (Thieves Guild, Assassin's Guild, Adventurer's Guild, Mercenary Company, Etc...), A Business (Shop, Magic Workshop, Etc...), Something more Special (Magical College, Siege Workshop, Etc...). It would just be so cool to see mechanics like these officially introduced into the game.

[@powerist209]

Acquisitions Incoporated kinda deal with it.

[@SayGen]

This was a great episode, I'd love a part 2, feel like so many more ideas to throw out there and play with.

[@WebDM]

Thanks for the feedback!

[@dimitriid]

One satisfying way that worked for me that you wouldn't think works was just property. And not just random, far away land but a high value piece of property on the busiest city on the planet, right on the merchant's district so very highly sought after. The party didn't plan on settling down at all or anything like that but were immediately happy to plan an Adventurer's Guild and being situated in one of the major hubs for adventuring efforts was enough motivation to embark on a very long, multi-planar rescue mission for a rich merchant.

[@landonmackey1091]

I love the idea of devastatingly powerful plane-shifting dragon slayers being concerned about their pastry shop's flour shortage.

[@dimitriid]

@@landonmackey1091 Well in this case I facilitated planar traveling with a limited but powerful magic item so they weren't that high level. However, what you described also sounds like a really fun to play, anime-like campaign so I might just try that too.

[@cups7987]

I rewarded a ranger character a better long bow, or "great bow". With it they can use their bonus action to steady themselves to get a little more pull and do 2d6 damage. They cannot move while steadied however. No land given yet.

[@junkpunchhero]

Nice timing, I literally asked a forum for low tier boon ideas yesterday.. *gets popcorn*

[@RainbowRandolf]

"I look into my golf-bag of weapons and..." I'm sorry, I know this was meant as a joke, but D&D Casey Jones is 1000% my next character concept.

[@williamozier918]

Wait, that's actually super interesting. There were sports, and games, in ancient times. No one ever translates this into D&D. Maybe your character's quest is to actually be a famous athlete or something who gets caught up in whacky adventures. Like imagine, yeah Casey Jones and the lady from Queen's Gambit, and they get caught up in a whacky adventure.

[@williamozier918]

Sports characters could be modeled on: A Greek Olympiad, a lacross player, a mayan life or death basketball player.

[@Bluecho4]

@@williamozier918 Not to mention magical sports, available to a fantasy world.

[@TheRamenRider]

Casey jones from tmnt!

[@mysteryperson706]

I've been running some character focused adventures recently, where each character in the party I DM for gets the chance to come up with something which relates to their character. The the ex-mercenary fighter decided he wanted and adventure which focused on tracking down his old mercenary buddies, for example. And in each of these adventures I give the option to learn a feat as a reward. Granted it makes my player characters a bit more powerful, but that's fine as we play quite casually anyway. The feat they pick relates to the game they are playing; maybe the fighter in the above example gains combat expertise by the end of it, as he learns from his past and remembers the techniques he used to use in battle long before he retired. Personally it's really working well in my game and is getting my players super excited about their chance for an adventure, coming up with really interesting ideas to grow their characters both thematically but also mechanically.

[@Naytsabehz]

Can't watch this video without a notepad!! You guys rock

[@KoltontheKool]

Loved this insight, I often struggle with this and didn't even realize I did haha. I'm a fairly new DM and player in general so this gave me a lot of cool ideas I've never really thought about before, thanks guys! You all are one of my top D&D channels to watch keep up the great work B)

[@WebDM]

Thank you for the kind words a d glad you enjoyed the video!

[@geoffdewitt6845]

Great advice. Hadn't thought about the special training angle!

[@WebDM]

Glad to help!

[@CitanulsPumpkin]

My go to abstract rewards are the 4 optional ability scores in the DMG. Sanity, Honor, Renown, and Piety. You killed a mind flayer and no one got their mind flayed. Everyone roll a d4 and add that number to your sanity. That last job for the local nobility raised your renown 5 points. 2 more points and you get your pick of a rural keep or a wizard's tower. You've got more than 30 Piety. You now outrank the Pope and are in charge of church based mission assignments for all clergy between levels 5 and 15.

[@17joren]

Great supplement to this is Coleville’s Strongholds and Followers book that goes in depth with special strongholds and NPC followers as rewards with upkeep and notoriety. DM Lair and Dungeon Coach also have videos going into great rewards beyond gold and magic items too, such as new class abilities that brings character concepts to life.

[@Coridimus]

During a game I ran back in 3.5, one of my players had a dwarf cleric who worshipped Kelemvor. He was very focused on making sure that only those who should die, did. He spend much time and resources healing and trying to save any Innocents caught in the fireball slinging crossfire. Towards the end of the campaign, he tried to save a child who was crushed by a collapsed building (our Goliath fighter got thrown through it) and prayed to Kelemvor, offering his own life to save the child. Well, I decided that Kelemvor was so impressed by his dedication, He elevated the dwarf to be his Chosen and the ability to permanently sacrifice some of his CON to perform a True Resurrection. He did. The dwarf player could only do so a few times, but boy did he make them count.

[@tomkerruish2982]

Aren't the real rewards the friends we made along the way?

[@CitanulsPumpkin]

No. The real rewards are my weight in platinum pieces and gems, the 12 foot tall gold statue of me posed like I'm on the cover of a harlequin romance novel, and the permanent triple diamond executive club membership card from that brothel we saved from the church of Pholtus in the next town over.

[@jeffanderson6390]

Yes, especially if you have access to simulacrum.

[@williamozier918]

Who wants real friends when I can have imaginary treasure!

[@Bluecho4]

If they're friends who show up to help you during the climactic final battle against the Big Bad, then absolutely.

[@lexhemer3974]

I’ve just been binge watching your videos for a couple of weeks or so. I love your format and really respect your wisdom. Amazing content 😊

[@WebDM]

Thank you!

[@thomaselminster774]

Again proving why you are one of the best systemic analyzers of the game. If I was the Wizard's CEO you guys would be part of the design team already yesterday. Also, is your book already out?

[@WebDM]

Not yet! We will have more info for everyone in a few weeks.

[@DarrylCross]

I imagine the 2 concentrations ability would something to do with Beholders - either making a deal with one, or gathering some part of one for a potion. Mainly because they are a creature with two separate minds within them, that sometimes get along but are just as prone to being paranoid about each-other as with any other creature outside itself. Perhaps there's something they can teach the caster on splitting their mind like the beholder's to concentrate on different things with each half; or the beholder's dreams affects their reality.

[@RobKinneySouthpaw]

So far I think they've won a house, a trade ship, a garden of rare fungi, the allegiance of a tribe of sewer kobolds, and a Council seat.

[@TheRedVelvetScare]

Fantastic stuff! I have a homebrew setting, and for a few paths they can go down, I build wholly unique abilities for each path, with a different type of boon granted, and some of my players are like "this is op" and I say, I know the abilities, I know how to make meaningful challenges, and still let you go crazy with fun things to do.

[@MrSilvUr]

Titles, baby! Titles!

[@an8strengthkobold360]

I actually really like titles that don't even necessarily even grant any power other then prestige such as "slayer of X".

[@novaiscool1]

@@an8strengthkobold360 "Grand Poba Dadoink of All of this and That"

[@MrSilvUr]

@@an8strengthkobold360 that prestige _is_ a power.

[@an8strengthkobold360]

@@MrSilvUr yes, I referred to it as the soul power it grants you.

[@MrSilvUr]

@@an8strengthkobold360 I mean. If it's a big deal in the setting, people in the setting should treat it as a big deal.

[@joshuakotwas6635]

The open skits on these continue to bring me much enjoyment :)

[@thepopemichael]

Another option for the skill class thing is putting together a gestalt class. I remember WebDM did something on that a while ago. It's a wild thing to play.

[@MrSilvUr]

Regarding excessive resting: Remember that you can only gain the benefit of a long rest once per 24 hours. In addition to that, use random encounters, and/or narrative timers. If there are hostages that need to be rescued, rituals to be stopped, forced that are mustering, etc., then you can motivate your players to get off their bums and keep moving. Random encounters shine in a press-your-luck, mega-dungeon kinda style of game where we're just here to get loot or whatever.

[@Bluecho4]

Plus, if they back out of a dungeon halfway through, that also gives the monsters time to regroup, gather reinforcements, set up new traps, and alter the layout of the dungeon.

[@WadWizard]

So rest for 24 hours then :>

[@MrSilvUr]

@@WadWizard Where are you gonna get the water? :3

[@Wesrulez69]

Loved that deep cut Tenacious D reference!

[@jiiaga5017]

22:20 you would be surprised how many DMs don't give their wizard players spells

[@rustyshackle8000]

In a homebrew 5e campaign set in the Naruto universe. As a reward for the party climbing up a tree, one of us got proficiency in a skill, and the other two got an extra spell. Really felt cool to get something extra

[@RavenStarver]

You could have an interesting element to land ownership between monarchs. What if there are powerful spirits at certain locations, and if they can be bound a person can use powerful magic to subjugate a spirit and gain a boon from it. So monarchs have webs of these powerful spirits bound giving them immense magical power from these bindings. Then they’d be able to grant these powers and boons to people who serve them which they also do with the guardians they place at these places. Edit: idea stolen from “Tales From My D&D Campaign” by Demonac, look him up, it’s amazing how deep his world building goes

[@VoidplayLP]

I know where you stole this from but I'm not mad cause its a great idea.

[@RavenStarver]

@@VoidplayLP hey credit where credit is due, Demonac is a fantastic worldbuilder and I do not want to know how many hours he’s sunk into writing all that lore.

[@itsyagirlVofficial]

Excited to see what you guys are working on behind the scenes. Great video as per usual

[@knightghaleon]

The Eldritch Initiate feat is great for handing players a taste of the warlock contract. And depending on the invocations they take from the list, it can be a very big power boost. You might want to modify the list as well so as to not make the warlock in the group feel like now everyone is doing what they do.

[@ironreed2654]

Was always the best part of Old pc rpg's when you got out of character rewards or options to boost otherwise locked stats.

[@druunky]

Great post. I want to forward this to my DM, who really likes to reward our group with great loot that no one can use - lacking racial or alignment pre-reqs, lacking proficiencies. I'm just not quite sure what to do with this gun or magic sword, since we certainly can't wield either...

[@MrJudeWanamaker]

'4 podcasts a month is not nothing.' best marketing campaign

[@ANDELE3025]

My list of alt reward by "priority": 1. Feat based on events (either on milestone when xp leveling or when double the xp range within same milestone with a miniboss, which yes returns the xp tracking but only on you as the DM which you might already be doing as part of encounter/cr prep) 2. Faith and/or Patron progression (patron in this sense being their legal patrons aka the house of the player with noble background, wizard teacher, etc) with MOT and COS being influence on how to go about it for 5e (tho really for the main/only long running campaign im running it really is mostly 3.5 sourced stuff) 3. Reputation and Fame (might seem not different from the patron bit, but i see it as the distinction between what you can get away with vs what people willingly let you do) 4. Benefitial rival or ally events (this would fall under the proficiency/custom spells/weapons bits, be it them searching for a thing, stumbling into it or simply their favorite mech pal establishing a new connection and options that the party gets for their crafting price instead of what they sell it to others) 5. The full homebrew line bit of "ported in 2e kits and 3.5 prestige classes as 5 level 5e classes" OR pseudo gestalt effect (this one naturally goes up in value as party keeps getting higher level and the gestalt bit would be only 1-3 levels worth based on what force can bestow it or if its some effect tied to a legacy/tied to a power growing item)

[@williamozier918]

17:31. NPC: Congratulations on completing your quest and returning Blackrazor to the Baron. In reward you shall be given title over the Tower of Inverness. PC: Um, isnt that haunted? NPC: And your first taska s lord is to clean it out. PC: So what does the Tower protect against? NPC: The Tower is our first line of defense AGAINST THE GIANTS.

[@Bluecho4]

One idea I've wanted to run with is to expand the Research rules from Xanathar's Guide. First by making it possible to use it for things like learning spells or magic item recipes; there's no reason a wizard shouldn't be able to sit in a tower and derive a spell from first principles, or for a blacksmith to lock themselves in a workshop until they've learned how to beat magic into a sword. And second by allowing a person to use books - and the gold piece value thereof - to contribute towards the cost of Research. Because if you've got the books, it's only reasonable for you to check the knowledge you already have, before dropping gold on new books or access to libraries or scholar's fees. It would also turn books into treasure, and indeed be worth more than their value in gold (because you can sell it for coin, or keep it as an asset that can get repeated value). It would give PCs a reason to create their own libraries (and invest in defenses to protect them). If they're going to do a lot of Research - of a mundane or magical variety - it's an investment in their future. I'd probably establish a PC's library as having a "Library Value", which is equal to roughly a tenth of the gold piece value of all the books therein. The Library Value dictates how much gold piece of "cost" can be covered to tackle one Research problem. Once used, it can't be used again for that question (because you've read that many gold pieces worth of books already). It set the Library Value as 10% of the total book cost, because books can have any number of subjects, only some of which are liable to be relevant to any given problem. You won't the True Name of a Greater Demon in your stacks of books on botany, for instance. Nor the secrets of an improved Fireball spell or how to forge a Holy Avenger in books of poetry or the history of regional trade agreements.

[@whiskeyhound]

3.5 had some good rules for making new spells, as discussed in this link. rpg.stackexchange.com/questions/3515/rules-for-creating-new-spells While it will need some tweaks to fit 5e's mechanics and to fit your idea of how to research magic, it's worth a read. For crafting magic items, I'd recommend looking up how the 3.5 artificer's Item Creation feature worked, it seems to be similar to your idea of the blacksmith beating magic into a sword.

[@JohnsRoses]

Having a one time use of finger of death is great. Soon you'll have Jerry the camp watching zombie at level 2.

[@rokkkrinn2793]

Great advice, guys. Love your channel.

[@StraboSE]

In L5R loot is frowned upon, so this was helpful.

[@AGrumpyPanda]

Just move the loot to gifts and awards received from their lord/their current boss/the local super skilled artisan. The social rewards are of course more important for L5R specifically, but yeah if you've got some really great duellist in your party have a Kakita forge them a weapon.

[@gstaff1234]

Perfect timing of this video for my future planning

[@UltimateMustacheX]

Based on the intro, I was assuming the titles, connections, and skills were included in the material rewards, and you were going to discuss options other than those. But I guess it was really "if money isn't good, how about these... no?... well let's discuss them anyway".

[@zorkwhouse8125]

Really good topic for a video and one that absolutely warrants a rethinking by both DMs and players I think. When you mentioned about the PC's wearing the clothes and the adornments of their positions in society in-game - it reminded me of the Monty Python and the Holy Grail scene where one of the "peasants" says (roughly paraphrased) along the lines of "I could tell he was a king (or important or something) b/c he ain't covered in shit" hehe So its sort of the same thing - the PC's have their special armor and weapons and so on that delineates them as being important figures and/or people not to be trifled with. You also mentioned large amounts of gold destabilizing economies - the party could hit an old dragon and come out looting the horde for 50,000 gold. Then the party shows up in a town that's used to bartering chickens and sheep and you could end up with some bad scenarios. If the party is lucky and the townspeople are good they may just say "look, we don't even have anything that costs 5 gold to sell, nevermind 50,000. Or if they're unlucky they could end up in a town where the townspeople look at the party and say "man, we could rebuild our temple and dig a new well for the town" and etc improvements. and then the party could wake up the next morning in the inn to find the entire town standing outside the door to the inn saying that "if you want to walk out of here under your own power there's a toll to leave this town - and it's 30,000 gold. And if you don't pay it voluntarily then we're taking the lot and maybe we'll let you live.." So, agreed that massive amounts of gold can really cause more problems than they are worth for parties sometimes (or at least if you're being somewhat realistic then it should). But that's something else to think about and another reason why parties might turn down payments in currency in favor of other things like land and titles etc once they've gone through the kind of experience with a town like I referred to above.

[@WebDM]

Once again, Monty Python is not wrong!

[@KamiRecca]

Easy way to make Monetary Rewards more fun: Get actual currency no longer in circulation, and designate Gold, Silver and Copper pieces. Players love to get Stuff, and this is plenty of Stuff to give, and its a hell lot more appretiated than Notes on a Sheet. Oh, and use the Silver Standard, aka 100 Copper is 1 Silver, 100 silver is 1 gold. 1 silver in game is the same as 1 gold piece in the book. That makes Gold realy stand out, and it makes purchasing Feel more realistic since your not dealing with the highest currency all the time, without Actually changing anything.

[@Afrancis1968]

I was actually having troubles with one of my players in my curse of strahd campaign, they are a sorcerer right now and really don't like the class because they feel very weak and fragile and they want to be a cleric. Unfortunately it doesn't make sense right now for her to retire her character so I was looking into multi-class, we are thinking paladin but I didn't really have a good way and justifying her gaining all these holy powers in the campaign. I think you guys just gave me some inspiration though.

[@an8strengthkobold360]

Can't you just give them a chance to kill off their character?

[@WebDM]

Awesome! Let us know how it works out for you.

[@nerrdoo]

Nacho Libre features the Special training quest quite well... "It gave me no eagle powers! It gave me no nutrients!"

[@darksarcasmsvideodiaries6262]

Could you guys do a video on Monty Haul DMs? Would love your take on it.

[@WittyUsername14]

is that a 'pilot G-2 07' pen i spot at 1:44 ??? very good, very good

[@MySqueezingArm]

Pathfinder 2E has feats and archetypes as rewards for certain plots in modules. Help a ranger? Learn to stalk enemies in combat. Encounter ooze cultists? Wanna become an ooze?

[@AGrumpyPanda]

1E also had that in adventure paths and modules, including unique things specifically for those (e.g. if you wanted to have an Axe Beak as an animal companion in organised play, you had to earn it by completing one specific adventure).

[@WeebDweebTCG]

15:17 Thought Pruit was gonna say “You’re the shit.” He wouldn’t have been wrong

[@wickedly1]

I have a very... mean way of dealing with the fifteen minute adventuring day. Don't relieve the pressure, you gotta keep going. This can be a timer, right? Could be terrible dreams. Whatever makes thematic sense for your bad guy's evilness. The pressure cooker is a great way to do it. But, expect some freaking out from your players, and if it is used too much, your players will see you as extremely adversarial. Keep it fresh, keep it fair, but never take your hand off the cooker until the meal is done. In my recent campaign, my players were underwater and were running out of air. If they rested, they risked running using up more air. They were very liberal with the first few sessions, until it started to come down to the wire and they got the Poisoned condition, and suddenly the fifteen minute adventuring day turning into a three or four session long adventuring day. Whew they were haggard by the end of it. They made it out barely, and they immediately had a huge sigh of relief when they were done, I felt it through the computer screen. Thank goodness, the pressure cooker is off. Now we can breathe.

[@O4C209]

DM: "Congratulations, you're now the mayor." Player: "I didn't run for office." DM: "It was a write in campaign." Player: "Okay. What does that mean?" DM: "It means you now have protect the town from everything." Player: "That sucks." DM: "You also get advantage on all Persuasion and Intimidation rolls." Player: 🤔

[@UlfFormynder]

DM: "It was a write in campaign." Player: "Okay. What does that mean?" DM: "It means I wrote it into the campaign..."

[@Layahn]

That intro is just an announcement of an announcement then

[@davidmc8478]

Ahh yes, now I shall give my PCs the supernatural gift of the metric system

[@AKNeal81]

My time has come!

[@uriahz]

The remote recording is getting less awkward but there's still a lot of magic lost in you guys not being in the same room together. Any chance you'll go back to normal soon?

[@DrVikingrMD]

What about leader formerly known as king?

[@thatcanadianguy7699]

Fantastic advice as always! However, I do have a question. While most of these rewards can be given easily, I'm not too sure how to go about giving players feats/proficiencies. Like, how would I inform the player that they can learn some cool new abilities if they go talk to a secretive group of monks, or there's a famous wizard who can teach them a new spell, etc? Would the knowledge of the existence of these opportunities be rewards in and of themselves? Do I just tell them out of game? Do I have someone in universe happen to mention this while they are near the players (rumours)?

[@WebDM]

Any of those possibilities work! It depends on the game. Telling them out of character is probably a nice motivator, but finding a way to do it in character is also effective if you tend to do everything full immersion.

[@thatcanadianguy7699]

@@WebDM Makes sense. Thanks!

[@whiskeyhound]

Simplest way I can think of is to have an npc show up and do something that they shouldn't be capable of, like a rogue suddenly divine smiting an enemy, and then have the npc mention spending a couple of weeks learning it from a paladin etc, to get the players questioning if they can learn things that way.

[@williamozier918]

You could tie the rewards into a backstory where you character is adventuring as part of an Agogee like, or walk about like, coming of age ceremony. Now leave, and do not return until you have reached 2nd level.

[@WebDM]

Absolutely!

[@ttprophet]

Teach me how to Dougie, Pruitt, and I'll spill the beans.

[@AuthoritativeNewsNetwork]

Would there be hyperinflation? Because Dragons are natural currency sinks, so I guess its more a question of how many dragons must be slain before the currency begins to devalue?? 🤔🤔

[@derekstein6193]

Simple solution: create more dragons to act as treasure sinks. *Oh bard! You're talents are needed!*

[@AuthoritativeNewsNetwork]

@@derekstein6193 Fantasy problems require Fantasy solutions. 👍

[@nicolaezenoaga9756]

Thanks.

[@MrDavidKord]

What's the kickstarter, damn you!!!

[@WebDM]

We'll have a lot of info to share in just a few weeks!

[@williamozier918]

NPC: Congratulations for cleaning out The Hill and re-opening commerce in the land. In reward I am making you the Sheriff at the Keep on the Borderlands! Now...here is a sealed letter stating this...um, the Sheriff nor anyone at the Keep knows about this decision...so, show them the letter, and I'm sure they'll hand the Sheriff right over to you no muss no fuss. Now, go.

[@jesseward4115]

Cool

[@itsyagirlVofficial]

One game I'm working on is classless and feat based, most of the feats have story prerequisites

[@anderslundtoft2315]

My dad was here first!

[@adamvancleave9200]

So, do key items count as loot? I mean like random valves, stuff that looked like junk in any other context, literal keys, and so on.

[@corporealexistence9467]

To be clear, I have not played since 3.5. I have been thinking about getting back into the world but every video I watch is about how to make combat fun & money does not matter. What happened to players who actually want to build their own keep or kingdom? Becoming the greatest corporeal being possible which makes Tiamat tremble when they are unhappy? Has the world changed so much in the last 15 years in D&D? My Rogue/Shadow Dancer/Planar Champion had a city that used Bags of Devouring for the sewer system (I thought it was creative lol), magically artificers, etc. and had weapons in their Bag of Holding that when drawn immediately drew the attention of Gods by the end of the our campaign; is there anything like this in D&D still?

[@papallegatepoope3010]

The issue with political rewards: once In a pathfinder game I took the Noble scion feat among other feats that made me a noble man. >~> later on everyone got equal titles. Like my investment didn’t return anything special.

[@nonah60]

YYYYYYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYY

[@WebDM]

Yay!

[@emophobe]

The person who disliked the video JUST wants the gold

[@WebDM]

That's ok...their engagement is a nonmaterial reward for us!

[@patrickmullen9485]

Chekov’s Castle?

[@DaDunge]

14:45 Medieval medals were not like the modern kind though. At most they were worn in a chain around your neck, and you could proabably not wear more than one. Most of them were likely more like the golden tablets given to Marco Polo, things you kept in your bags that said that you were favored by a certain ruler and to what extent and what services should be rendered unto you.

[@brianpious3242]

In my campaign my players are not allowed to multiclass, though they have been given moments to change class or subclass if they didn't like how things were going since this was new. But, to help them also customize their characters I created a list of accepted feats (most feats that don't add stat increases) and over the course of level 1-11 I periodically allowed them to learn a feat as their god spoke to them and was pleased with their progress. "Knowledge is its own reward" she said.

[@thehulkster9434]

Giving them land also means they can't be murder hobos - can't be a murder hobo if you have a home. Then your just a murderer.

[@josephpurdy8390]

Reward your players with a vist by the taxman, thieves and, kidnappers whom ransom their family. Now your players have a reason to acquire that loot.

[@yinsanga642]

first

[@pleaseloveme117]

@Yinsanga Actually your second, WebDM was first, but don’t worry that still makes you the first loser. 😂

[@an8strengthkobold360]

🔫

[@WaltRBuck]

I'll take xp rewards over loot anyday. Im sick of level 3 campaigns.

[@Yerza777]

@ Web DM When you guys talked abour hyperinflation haha i see the bitcoiner in you :)