Week 250- The Invasion of Normandy begins! - WW2 - June 10, 1944

[@WorldWarTwo]

Of course, we covered D-Day in much more detail than this episode. 24 hours of detail to be exact. If you've been in a bunker for the last week and haven't started watching yet you can watch here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mWGkfJZtrd2Eh80

[@ChrisBarber-b2r]

It was a great way to spend 24 hours. Thank you, all of you for this.

[@steveosborne2297]

My dad was actually one of those landing craft that didn’t make it back to the ship although he did disgorge the Regina rifles on Juno Nan green . The hit a mine on the way back out and he ended up swimming in the English Channel for about half an hour until he was picked up by a free French destroyer

[@andy313131313136]

Personally I would like to see a part 1,2,3,4, and 5 if it allows you to cover the week in a way that is satisfying to you and your team. If 1916 was the year of battle in WW1, then 1944 must be the year of battle in WW2. Please take what time you need, since you and your team are doing a great job.

[@steveosborne2297]

@@andy313131313136 To a certain extent I would agree but they do cover the 24 hours of D day in 24 One hour episodes

[@livethefuture2492]

Haha, you can't stay in your bunkers for long! The Allies are coming with flamethrowers, and you don't want to be there when they do!

[@Spiderfisch]

You know the week is intense when Indy doesnt answer the phone

[@MikeJones-qn1gz]

“I’m BUSY!”

[@octavian9279]

Word...this week go hard

[@brucetucker4847]

"Did he release the panzer divisions for our counterattack?" "No, he just picked up and hung up on me!" And thus history was made.

[@OLDMANWAFFLES]

@@brucetucker4847 Indy singlehandedly screwed Berlin’s survival, there won’t be a breakout boys.

[@MikeJones-qn1gz]

@@brucetucker4847 to quote an earlier episode “you are Adolf Hitler!”

[@audiosurfarchive]

D-Day coverage was an absolute triumph of showing what can be done with history content in the medium: everyone deserves an applause. Proud to serve the TimeGhost Army.

[@Ramzi1944]

I was there

[@livethefuture2492]

I was there as well! Incredible show! Unlike anything on youtube before!

[@goldenageofdinosaurs7192]

@@livethefuture2492 It truly was incredible. I was overwhelmed, thinking about the amount of work that must’ve gone into all those episodes.

[@boneheadd911]

Agreed!

[@firingallcylinders2949]

I can't believe we're at Overlord already. It feels like I was just watching the Pearl Harbor special. The fact Berlin is less than a year away is crazy.

[@Lttlemoi]

_"Adolf Hitler did not want a two-front war, but he's now dealing with a three-front one."_ Should have known better than to trust that genie.

[@midsue]

No it's a four front-war now, if you also count in the airwar over Germany 🛩

[@pavelgl5926]

@@midsue a five-fronts war - there is a Battle of the Atlantic

[@stefanjoeres7149]

@@pavelgl5926 That one is over.

[@pavelgl5926]

@@stefanjoeres7149 It was over when WW2 was over. The last naval action in Atlantic theater happened on May 5 1945

[@theskycavedin]

Not to mention the resistance in the Balkans, or the Soviets pushing into Scandanavia

[@sse_weston4138]

Indy sounded quite emotional there towards the end, not surprising given his words, but still struck a cord with how much the supporters and the creators impact each other. Much love yall

[@cobbler9113]

Steady on guys, some of us have barely finished the first 6 hour video! On a serious note, the D-Day project is an absolute gem and deserves to be held up as a shining example of what can be achieved by independent and dedicated creators like yourselves. I hope you guys are having (or have already had) a massive party to celebrate. Now though the war of attrition takes place in Normandy. On that note, it is utterly perplexing that the Adolf Hitler would not let German troops deploy out of range of the Allied Naval Guns and build a defence in depth. That potentially could have held up the Allies for months rather than a few weeks as happened in real life.

[@pnutz_2]

I took a day off to watch that and still have 22 separate youtube tabs open from my queue, *and* all the stuff I haven't added from my subs yet

[@Macieks300]

Same. I'm only on the 8th hour currently and it seems like it'll take a while to finish.

[@Jarod-vg9wq]

I’ve been watching it out of order 😂 I’ve only finished a few episodes but im gonna watching in order starting today

[@jimthepyroful]

I’m right in the 8th hour with you lads, good luck 🫡

[@jtgd]

lol on like hour 14-15

[@johnfrancis1528]

I loved the stones of the Finnish soldier who said of the Soviets: "There are so many of them and our country is so small. Where are we going to find the room to bury them?" Similar spirit being showed by Ukraine today. I admire your work.

[@excelon13]

Crazy, I remember back during the Phoney War days of this channel with videos averaging 10 or so minutes. Now they're averaging 20-25 minutes.

[@Dustz92]

Ep 252 should last 30 min at least with everything here plus Bagration, the Marianas and Phillipine Sea

[@Rulusto]

More and more stuff keeps happening, each episode going to be a full feature film by the end.

[@obelix703]

23:50 - No, thank you. After decades of hearing the same stories told about WWII time after time, you did something different. You went deeper into the minutiae, and brought all of it to life in a way that was exciting, yet never minimized the horrors of the conflict. What I’m trying to say is that you’re the ones doing all of us a favor, and I’m grateful.

[@Duke_of_Lorraine]

The town of Bayeux is famous for its medieval tapestry, depicting William the Conqueror's conquest of England. For its liberation, the newspaper The Newyorker made its front page in the style of the Bayeux tapestry, depicting the Normandy Landings.

[@stefenlong]

do you have a link?

[@Duke_of_Lorraine]

@@stefenlong youtube doesn't seem to like links. Google "D-Day Bayeux tapestry" to see it

[@Duke_of_Lorraine]

@@stefenlong apparently YT doesn't like links, but it's easy to find by searching "d-day bayeux tapestry".

[@andrewmack191]

Hey TimeGhost! I must congratulate your team on the fantastic D-Day series. It was exceptionally well executed, of high quality and still maintained the secret panache that both Indy and Spartacus bring to the table. Although I'm still working my way through the series, I just had to reach out prior to the public release and thank every member of your team for their hard work.

[@WorldWarTwo]

Hey Andrew! Thanks so much! We hope you enjoy what we came up with 😁

[@mariosvourliotakis]

​@@WorldWarTwo Yeah, most of us are still in the first six hours, but what we have seen is a true spectable!

[@elektrotehnik94]

Starting my 13th hour... boy does the D-Day series get better over time, with later episodes! ❤

[@rags417]

June 1944 was probably the most consequential month of the war - D-Day, the Marianas and Operation Bagration. Strop yourselves in, the next few weeks are going to be doozies !

[@metarus208]

Probably November 1942 was more important ... The Second battle of El Alamein, the Naval Battle of Guadalcanal, Operation Torch Landings, Operation Mars ... and above all Operation Uranus that led to the encirclement of the German Sixth Army at Stalingrad.

[@jtgd]

@@metarus208 imo, the only strategic War action that was significant at that time was the stalled German siege of Stalingrad That and Guadalcanal

[@ramonzzzz]

June 1944 may possibly have been the most active month of the war, but the most consequential? I don't think so. The war's outcome was definitely no longer in doubt by that time. The only remaining question was how long would the Germans and the Japanese be willing to continue their futile defense.

[@danielmocsny5066]

@@ramonzzzz - There's still doubt by the start of June 1944. Stalin for example wasn't willing to gamble on the success of the Normandy landings until he saw the Allied beachheads were expanding after a few days in. Of course in hindsight we can now say there was no doubt as soon as the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor and the Axis found themselves fighting the UK, the USSR, and the USA. But having an overwhelming advantage on paper isn't the same as proving it on the battlefield. For the Americans, at least, a turning point might have been the Battle of Kasserine Pass from 18-24 February 1943, their last major defeat against Axis forces, and also Rommel's last victory. After that, the Americans (and by extension the Anglo-Americas) were only going forward in the European theater.

[@stefanjoeres7149]

@@danielmocsny5066 Stalin would have launched Bagration eventually anyway. He just wanted the western allies to contribute something meaningful (in his mind, Italy was a useless waste of resources. Which it kind of was...) so that the Soviets wouldn't have to deal with everything the Germans could throw against them.

[@audiosurfarchive]

23:37 Indy.. 😭 It's beautiful what this project has done. We're now entering the first part.. of the final Act. Nearly 5 years, and just a bit more to go. A spectacular project all in all. ❤️💜💙💚

[@Dustz92]

Interesting movies to watch this week: - The Longest Day (1962): A film, almost a live action documentary, covering everything D-Day: preparations, German POV, airbone operations, point du Hoc and beaches. Watch it if you want to see almost perfect recreations of all the major operations. Probably the closest we'll ever get to watching Neptune unfold with our own eyes. - Band of Brothers, episode 2 - Day of Days: This second episode of the miniseries covers D-Day for Easy company, with the fighting in the Brécourt Manor battery (which is not covered in The Longest Day), but it's equally excellent. - Saving Private Ryan (1998): Needs no introduction, its Omaha scenes are among the most famous in cinema history. The rest of the film also covers the first days of the Battle of Normandy.

[@WorldWarTwo]

Thanks for the recommendations!

[@goodman4966]

Amazing recommend list

[@elbeto191291]

Also there's a movie made on General Eisenhower's POV of the days leading to D-Day and how the final decisions were made. I remember watching it a long time ago on TV but I don't remember the name. Ike, maybe?

[@goodman4966]

@@elbeto191291 Ike: Countdown to D-Day 2004

[@brucemccormick8635]

Another movie I like is never too few starring Frank Sinatra and Steve McQueen. The novel from this based upon goes into further detail about the was in Burma It was written by tom shamalas jr who served as a Sargent in the US army

[@eleanorkett1129]

Bravo to Indy and the whole TimeGhost Army.

[@WorldWarTwo]

Bravo to the TimeGhost Army and the Patrons for making it all possible!

[@Blazcowitz1943]

Here, here!

[@nickcalmes8987]

I have to be perfectly honest and blunt. The 24 hour dday coverage was the best historical documentary I’ve ever watched and that’s regardless of medium: tv, KZbin etc. where TV has millions of dollars to spend on programming, you all did not have that budget. And you did far better. Congratulations!! I wish you all could win like an actual award (Emmy) or whatever it’s called but I know you won’t be able to. Seriously congratulations. And a big thank you to Paul Woodage for also being such a big part of this. Incredible folks.

[@itwaswalpole]

In 1942 Winston Churchill said: "this is not the end, not even the beginning of the end, but perhaps the end of the beginning" Perhaps this week will be the beginning of the end

[@robertm.8653]

Mr Neidell, your line at the end is simply... heartwarming. Thank you for thinking, and thanking, all members of this community, the entire crew deserves a round of applause for doing such a service to humanity, keeping alive the memory of fallen people in the greatest conflict of our history. I can only wish you great health ( 150 yo ) and godspeed to whatever objective you might have in the future. -Robert M.

[@WorldWarTwo]

thank you very much for those kind words. And thank all of you out there once again for making this possible. / Indy

[@Charles-to4cr]

I’ve been watching the series since I was in school and I missed d-day for the last exam for my masters degree. Weird to think how much has happened. Great job with the series!

[@thanos_6.0]

I remember how excited and hyped I was, when you first anounced your D-day projekt. And it didn't disappoint in the slightest. I absolutly LOVE how you make history feel alive.

[@AndrewBlacker-wr2ve]

I thought it was good. I want more details.

[@peteranderson037]

It took me up until midnight last night to finally work my way through all 24 hours of the D-Day series, yet here I am watching this episode at the first opportunity. Good work, guys!

[@kemarisite]

I got through it a little earlier by cheating and being out sick all week.

[@Emel_unlegit]

Im still not done, I'm bit over halfway, free time is short

[@nicholasconder4703]

@@Emel_unlegit Ditto

[@nickmacarius3012]

World Wars Episode IV: A New Hope!

[@philipmiller2618]

I took a Normandy D-Day Tour in about 2002. Went to all 5 invasion beaches, Caen and St. Mere Eglise. I will always remember that tour. I loved it.

[@Paladin1873]

This is no longer the end of the beginning, but the beginning of the end of WWII.

[@Oxtocoatl13]

My great-uncle Bror was a Finnish sailor who by circumstance ended up joining the US Army and fighting in Normandy. I wonder how he felt when he found out his homeland was also under attack.

[@mgway4661]

The landing at Utah Beach being done in the completely wrong place yet having the best results tells you everything you need to know about the chaos of warfare

[@Peterishd]

Most action packed episode so far. To anyone who hasn't yet, do check out the D-Day coverage, it's truly something else. 24 hours of detailed events, various different segments about an array of topics related to operation Neptune. Hats off to the team, truly top notch content.

[@WorldWarTwo]

Thank you so much!

[@mmjm932]

Thank you Timeghost for telling from Finland in Second Soviet-Finnish War (not just winter war) and also reminding that Finland was deep in trouble in 1944. Keep up good work. Greetings from Finland 🇫🇮 🇫🇮

[@mikewoodman7700]

The humility shown at the end from Indie really shows how far MS Media has fallen into the gutter for educational & historical content, when the narration allows a pause to go off script and bring home what it means to those making this series, that is something special to witness. D-Day 24 is a real triumph for all involved who made & supported it, many thanks to everyone.

[@Raskolnikov70]

I'm old enough to remember when PBS and the History Channel did actual history instead of tabloid shows about aliens and reality TV shows about antique dealers. Cable TV is dying for a reason.

[@nick0875]

One thing I love about your hour by hour series on D-Day is how you broke down the insane level of preparation and logistics that was taken to attempt the invasion. A lot of little things you don't think about like taking core samples from the beaches to make sure that the ground can support the necessary vehicles. Since they can't guarantee that a deep water port like Cherbourg will be taken quickly they had to work with whatever they could get onto the beaches.

[@T_Mo271]

The strategy in planning the 24-hour D-Day coverage was extremely detailed.

[@MrStarfishPrime]

What amazes me more of the Mulberries story is they were able to kept those behemoths hidden before the operation.

[@pnutz_2]

I just realised there's an option here for someone to do a downfall clip where burgdorf hands over the phone and indy neidell is on the other side

[@MissOaky]

If I were younger than I am, I would have gladly binged the entire 24 hour series in one go, my gosh that was a huge undertaking. Thank you TimeGhost!

[@WorldWarTwo]

Thank you! We hope you enjoyed!

[@T_Mo271]

I did nothing else for five straight nights, trying to digest all 24 hours of coverage.

[@quyha3234]

Thanks

[@andrewgamblin7264]

To tbe whole team: well done! The "D-Day 24 hours" (I've watched up to 15.00 so far) has been excellent. I was sorry to hear that you had been unable to secure sponsorship for such a massive, and worthwhile, undertaking, and was happy to make a contribution to your appeal for financial support. I did this in honour of my father, Alf, who was there on D-Day as part of a Royal Artillery anti-tank regiment. Like many veterans he didn't speak about his time in the army very much. On one occasion when he did open up about his experiences I thought he said that his unit had gone ashore on D-Day+3, but several years later when I asked his to confirm this his reaction was quite abrupt. "+3? No, be damned, we were there from first thing in the morning of the first day". He went on to explain that they had landed at about 7.30 on June 6th in the British sector and that "we nearly didn't stay", which he went on to clarify, that the opposition was so powerful at that point that there was a feeling that they would eventually be forced to withdraw. They did stay, thankfully, and the beachhead was secured. My father was the driver of a tractor-tank (a Centaur, perhaps) that towed a 25 pounder fieldgun. They fought through France and eventually, i think, ended up in Germany. Unlike some many of his comrades-in-arms he survived the chaos and carnage of the European theatre and, some time after VE Day, was posted to northern India where he served until he was repatriated and demobbed. Thank you once again for bringing the story of the horrors of WW2 to life in such a watchable - and educational - format - especially Sparty's sometimes heartrending spin-off, "War against Humanity". Never Forget.

[@reiddillashaw2383]

I stumbled onto The Great War channel a couple of months ago, and thoroughly enjoyed watching all the episodes. Then followed up with the Between Two Wars series, and again, thoroughly enjoyed all episodes. Started on this series a few weeks ago - along with the fantastic, D-Day, 24 hour coverage - and have finally caught up with the series. I've joined Time Ghost TV, as a means of thanking the TG crew, and to help give some support to their continued efforts. Looking forward to catching up on all the sub-topics series, and all the new videos as they're released.

[@manderse12]

D-Day series is excellent! I'm only half-way through it but loving every minute. Wow! This is what quality history education looks like. A thousand bravos! (BTW, I'm recommending your channels to practically everyone I know.)

[@WorldWarTwo]

Thank you so much for your support! It means the world :-)

[@sonoftherabbitpeople4737]

The D-Day series is an exceptional piece of work and have recommended it to several friends. 24 episodes of roughly an hour each, covering 24 hours of real-time truly was "The Longest Day". Congratulations on a superb achievement. Yours is the most comprehensive documentary on D-Day (or WWII for that matter) ever produced!

[@ronaldconiglio9942]

Thank you to all who contributed to this valuable production. Your channel's "regular" presentations typically standout and the D-Day series continues to provide the same high quality.

[@nicholaskonetski1586]

I just caught up on this episode now after watching the most incredible piece (or 24 pieces, if you will) of ww2 coverage imaginable and I did not expect to tear up with that ending thank you note from Indy.

[@Alex-cw3rz]

The 24 hour D-day coverage was excellent

[@Sniper361984]

What blew my mind about the D-Day coverage was that there is no filler. Every hour has content relevant to day, from the troop movements to breakdowns of equipment, the intelligence war to how the day was covered by the press and so much more If you haven't seen it, you owe to yourself to watch every minute.

[@Lematth88]

This week in French news (a lot !). On June 4th, De Gaulle meets Churchill who accepts a Franco-British agreement in exchange for De Gaulle's departure for the US and a meeting with Roosevelt. De Gaulle refused, saying that he had nothing to beg from the US while representing the French government. It was at this point that Churchill indicated that between De Gaulle and Roosevelt he would choose Roosevelt. Then, Churchill and Roosevelt want to impose an Allied Military Government Occupied Territory (AMGOT), Anglo-American military men would have been mayors and prefects, they would use money printed from the US to replace the Francs (French money). De Gaulle, who has been preparing to counter this move with all his government, representatives, diplomats, administration, and military, since the beginning of Free France is furious and refuses. They visit Eisenhower who gives to De Gaulle the discourse he wants to make on BBC where he would explain that the US would take in charge France, without the GPRF. De Gaulle thinks that this is unacceptable and leave immediately. The same day, Rome is taken, the 1st DMI takes Tivoli, the 3rd DIA reaches the Teverone. The 5th, at 21 hours, the BBC launch the first message toward the Resistance to make a general guerilla and do all plans prepared. It is a poem from Verlaine: “Les sanglots longs des violons de l'automne// blessent mon coeur d'une langueur monotone.” The first intervention of the Resistance begins that night. In Italy, Clark enters Rome with Juin in his jeep. The 3rd DIA crosses the Teverone. The CEF receives the order to maintain position and liberates roads for the 8th Army so that they each takes back their sectors. In London, Eisenhower refuses to read the modified speech by De Gaulle. De Gaulle withdraws the “Mission française de liaison administrative” and will not speak after Eisenhower on the Radio. In Lyon, Pétain felicitate the Miliciens and condemns the allies for their bombardments. Pétain returns to Vichy the next day. In Brittany, a hundred of French SAS are dropped to make guerilla actions against the Germans (operation Samwest). Emile Bouétard is killed that night and so is one of the first killed for Overlord. The SAS, seeing that the Resistance have more potential than they thought, integrates them into the operation. The 6th, D-Day! Libération! De Gaulle tells at the BBC “La bataille suprême est engagée! (…) C’est la bataille de France et c’est la bataille de la France!” (The Supreme Battle has commenced! This is the Battle of France, and this is the Battle by France!). De Gaulle renews that, orders come from French authorities named by the French, and only them. Churchill is angry but Eden intervenes to calm the situation. During Neptune, the French are present with the Commando Kieffer (named after its lieutenant), 171 men only. So telling that the battle is made by France is false. During this week, a lot of actions from the FFI are taken, some blocking for some days Germans divisions from reaching Normandy. Pétains speaks up on the radio. He calls that all workers, notably civil servants must stay at their posts, that not resistance must but enterprises and calls to not listen to “those who would lead the country to disaster” (here it is both for Free France but it might too be against collaborationist calling to help to fight the Allies). From the 7th to the 10th, multiple massacres are committed by the Germans against civilians, sometime after attacks from Partisans, other just to “pacify” the region. The SS Division Das Reich is the main culprit of the massacres as they are going from the Tarn-et-Garonne to Normandy with the order to “pacify” in its wake. The massacre the entire population of Oradou-sur-Glane (643 civilians, including children), it’s the biggest massacre in France. The 10th, Koenig, leader of the FFI (under the GPRF) in London gives the order to the Resistance to reduce the guerilla in order to avoid too much retaliation actions from the Germans. The FFI are theoretically integrated to the French Army (under the CNR) to protect them from being killed after capture. The 12, contrary to what Koenig said, the COMAC of Chaban-Delmas demands to intensify the Guerilla. The FFI estimates to have 83 000 men. Rundstedt let knows that he refuses to consider the FFI part of any army.

[@WorldWarTwo]

Merci beaucoup!

[@Lematth88]

@@WorldWarTwo Always a pleasure :)

[@californiadreamin8423]

….and the public hangings in Tulle of 100 citizens by Das Reich.

[@tombardsley3081]

This brings me back to primary school days with this week. Went to the Normandy beaches and memorials back then. Glad I found this channel as it was something i was interested in when I was younger but now I’ve learnt a lot more about the battles and where else the war was happening , not just from Britain’s point of view. And also the politics and reasons behind certain decisions that were made

[@someguyidk7823]

The german high command must be really happy at the moment "Successful landing in Normandy, Rome taken, Finland attacked, what a rough week, surely that's all they had planned for the summer" -> kid named Bagration:

[@BarryH1701]

The most epic coverage of World War II by ANYONE...EVER! No past documentary or movie can ever compare to the detail you have put into your work.

[@gustavotorres4043]

thanks to you and to the members of the time ghost army for allowing many more of us to know and enjoy this series.

[@WorldWarTwo]

It’s all thanks to the Army that we’re able to do any of this! We’re grateful to them immensely 🫡

[@Mark-gg6iy]

The first 05 seconds make this worth it. No, I don't intend to belittle your team's fantastic work, I am simply complimenting your acting skills, Sir Indy.

[@ArthurLnz]

Still in the midst of my D-Day journey, and here's a new weekly episode haha, love this

[@billd2635]

23:30... You're certainly welcome Indy. And thank you (the whole staff) as well.

[@BillinhoBamford]

Thank you to everyone in the Timeghost Army, and to Indy and all the team. Was it dusty in the studio, Indy? Did I see your eyes getting a bit watery at the end? 😉

[@Southsideindy]

You sure did

[@erikdam8850]

The ending about the Patreons...that really came from the heart. Thank YOU guys (and gals) for providing us with this content to help us, well...never forget!

[@ronaldfinkelstein6335]

And in the Pacific, the forces for the invasion of Saipan...Operation Forager were gathering together, with the invasion scheduled for June 15. Backing them...15 aircraft carriers, 7 battleships and many other vessels.

[@Spindrift_87]

As a TG Army member I can happily say: cheers, Indy and crew. It's a delight to be able to support your amazing work

[@WorldWarTwo]

Thank you for your continued support! You’re seeing the results of your contributions right here! It wouldn’t be possible without you!!!

[@ArthurLnz]

Indy being tricky from the very beginning is a wonderful way to end my day

[@HereBeDragonsYT]

I haven't made it all the way through the D Day stuff yet. I'm on hour 14 I think? But I must say, it is BY FAR the best documentary on the event ever made. Thank you, Time Ghost Army.

[@Guitfiddlejase]

The Time Ghost Staff. The best on KZbin.. ..and Indy? My absolute favorite. Even cooler than Mark Felton! (..and I LOVE Mark Felton!) God bless you all and thank you for this

[@danielrussell5687]

been watching this series since September 1939 and have to say this was the week I've been looking forward to the most. the work that has been put into this is simply amazing.

[@hallamhal]

I watched all the D-Day 24 hr videos so saw this coming, and yet I still felt the enormous weight, the sheer importance of this week going into this

[@vladimpaler3498]

Indy lives to 150, bad news, covers WW3 in real time. No, I mean REAL time.

[@jacksons1010]

WW3 might require only one episode: "And then it went BOOM!"🤔

[@danghostman2814]

​​@@jacksons1010 "Some people argue that we should begin the counting of years for the Third World War, the Last War, from the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine, others say we can track it back to the upswing in civil wars of Africa and the Near East in the 00-10s. Either way, the impact of the declaration of war in 20XX between... [Nation X]... And NATO-aligned [Nation Y] certainly qualifies as one of the primary starting dates. And ending dates, as only a week later every nuclear-armed nation had fired upon all its neighbors. Next week's class covers Neo-Feudalism and the rise from the Polish wastefields of the True Winged Hussars that would go on to..."

[@annehersey9895]

The D-Day series should definitely win some kind of award for its detail, scope and presentation! I thoroughly enjoyed watching it! I had wanted to watch all 24 hours in one swoop as the men experienced it themselves but not being in the shape they were, I only managed 12 hours the first day! Part of that was because I had to keep pausing and doing more research on something so 12 hours became the 18 hours it took me to watch 12 hours! Oh, and there were the small things like eating and bathroom breaks! Thank you guys so much for the most amazing experience for this WWII Nerd!

[@Lykurgos88]

Thank you for telling about the large attack on the Finnish front. It is crazily overlooked just because it happened same time as Normandy invasions. I hope you can put some extra effort for the Battle of Tali-Ihantala, which largely saved Finland from communist occupation.

[@bradleynorton3365]

Thanks!

[@gunman47]

A footnote this week on June 9 1944 is that the *Avro Lincoln* bomber will take its first flight. Originally known as the Lancaster IV, the Lincoln was produced to meet a British Air Ministry requirement for a Lancaster replacement. However, in 1943 the requirement was changed to developing a long-range bomber for operations in the Pacific Theatre under Tiger Force. The first Lincoln bombers would only reach RAF squadrons in August 1945, just too late to see service in the war. They were however later used in post-war operations against communist guerrillas in Malaya during the Malayan Emergency and against Mau Mau bandits in Kenya.

[@Whatisthisstupidfinghandle]

My dad was in Malaya hunting guerrillas with the Gurkhas. He was super impressed by them.

[@wbertie2604]

First deployments were, IIRC, February 1945. Full service work-up was complete in August 1945

[@tmdblya]

Found the imperialist colonizer. 🙄

[@dl2415]

@@tmdblya so u think they should've just left abruptly which is the same as let the tankies(russia/china) have their way with these peoples? It wasn't possible they wouldn't be influenced at all, obviously that would've been ideal to an extent.

[@gilwhitmore9682]

The D-Day coverage was like going to an all you can eat buffet that had all your favorite foods. I'm stuffed, but ready for dessert! World War Two and D-Day channels thank you for the great efforts.

[@syahran1518]

the mulberry harbor itself is a massive logistical feat in itself. you guys should try to cover it like the one on barbarosa

[@Jbf-76]

Indy is the best. I cant imagine anyone not loving him for his genuine feelings for all the supporters of this channel. When he got emotional at the end of this episode, i felt it. The D-Day special is a masterpiece . I've watched the entire 24 hours at least twice. I'm glad I could be a part of it. No one else could replace Indy and Spartacus.. It just wouldn't be the same...They're the best there is...

[@WorldWarTwo]

What a lovely comment to read. Thank you very much for that. / Indy

[@oOkenzoOo]

From the night of June 5 to 6 1944, operations were carried out by French SAS in Brittany in support of the Normandy landings. The purpose of these commandos was to prevent the German troops present in Brittany, 85000 German soldiers and supplementary troops (around eight divisions), from joining the new open front in Normandy. For this, four SAS groups embarked on two RAF planes bound for Brittany. On June 5 around midnight, they were dropped two by two in the south and the north of the peninsula in order to prepare the ground for other parachute drops which will follow the following days. Those units will therefore be the first engaged in the battle for the Liberation of France. Their mission was to establish two bases, codenamed Dingson and Samwest respectively, to inform the high command, ensure the capacity of the local resistance, prepare for the arrival of other missions and also slow down the movement of the occupying forces towards Normandy by conducting guerrilla operations. Creation: In January 1942 in Egypt, the British Major Stirling, founder and leader of the SAS, integrated into his unit the paratroopers of Free France from the 1st Air Infantry Company of Captain Bergé (founded on September 15 1940 in England). These men were then responsible for carrying out sabotage missions and harassing the Axis forces in Crete, Libya and Tunisia. Back in Great Britain in April 1943, two battalions were finally born in November: the 3rd Air Infantry Battalion (BIA) under the command of Captain Pierre Chateau-Jobert and the 4th BIA led by Commander Pierre-Louis Bourgoin. Finally, these two units of French paratroopers were integrated within the SAS brigade placed under the command of General Roddy McLeod under the names of 3rd SAS and 4th SAS. Operation Samwest: Under the command of Lieutenants Deschamps and André Botella, 18 men from the French 4th SAS were parachuted near the forest of Duault in the Côtes-du-Nord, about 30 kilometers from Guingamp. The first phase of the mission was to establish a safe base in the Breton peninsula, code name Samwest, near Callac, then establish parachute and landing zones for the battalion. Until June 11, 114 French SAS were parachuted on Samwest. Realizing the potential of the local Resistance, it was decided, by the English command, to integrate it into the guerrilla operations against the German troops and especially to provide them with weapons and ammunition which they were sorely lacking. Operation Dingson: A first group of 18 men, under the orders of Lieutenants Marienne and Deplante, had been parachuted between Plumelec and Guehenno, in Morbihan, not far from Vannes. Their goal was to establish the Dingson base where other SAS will then be parachuted. Immediately after their parachuting, spotted by the enemy, they were forced to fight auxiliary German troops (Ukrainians and Georgians from the Vlassov army). 14 of the 18 paratroopers were able to join the maquis of Saint-Marcel being mobilized, 15 km away, with the help of the local Resistance. Until June 18, 160 French soldiers of the 4th SAS (including its commander, Bourgoin) were parachuted on the Dingson base installed in this maquis. Operation Cooney Parties: 58 paratroopers divided into 18 groups of 3 to 5 men were parachuted on the night of June 7 to 8 as part of Operation Cooney Parties. Dropped mainly on Morbihan and Côtes-d'Armor without a reception committee, they were responsible for sabotaging the Breton rail network, as well as the electricity and communication networks, in parallel with the Samwest and Dingson operations. It was in this context that one of them blew up a train in the Corbinière tunnel, immobilizing all traffic on one of the main railway lines for a long time. These 18 groups, their mission accomplished, were to join, a few days later, the Dingson or Samwest bases, to rearm, train the guerrillas or participate in other sabotage missions.

[@LWPPI]

Not going to lie, I teared up a bit at the end when Indy started to tear up. Keep up the great work lads!

[@merdiolu]

05:35 ,Capture of Orne and Caen bridges with 6th British Airborne Division gliderborne landing of Ox and Bucks was a brilliant coup de main stroke , cutting Germans around Caen into two Orne river in between as all bridges and town center on Caen were destroyed and city became unpassable for German vehicles due to Allied bombing

[@Beachie1981]

Just finished the 24 hours of D-Day, and on to this week's episode. Thank you again to all at TImeGhost for your dedication in all that you have done to bring this series to us.

[@Fractured_Unity]

Upvote this if you agree that everyone who doesn’t have enough time to watch all of D Day in Real Time should at least watch the beach and parachute landings.

[@StephenGoodfellow]

I had the luxury of watching the entire four part series in record time, and may I say, it is a documentary that will become a first rate historical record of D-Day. Bravo!

[@jasondrew5768]

Indie you and your staff did an excellent job!

[@rashkavar]

My grandfather was a navigator for one of the bombers taking part in the June 6th operation. His squadron hit a radar installation in Houlegate in the wee hours of the morning (01:40 to 04:35, according to his flight logs), and, through a gap in the clouds, his plane's belly gunner caught a quick glimpse of the invasion fleet steaming across the channel. Nobody else saw it, so they teased him a bit on their way back, but were pretty convinced he wasn't messing with them by the time they landed, and by the time they finished their post-mission debrief, the official announcement of the landings was being broadcast over their camp's PA system. (Much to my grandfather's annoyance; his memoirs indicate he was utterly exhausted and had expected to have another mission the next night, so he very much just wanted to get a good night's sleep in. According to his mission log, he got at night's sleep in, and then a bit, as his next flight out wasn't until evening of the 7th, giving him a good 36 hours plus on the ground.

[@merdiolu]

20:20 -22:00 LOL , Kawabe visited Mutaguchi in his field HQ east of Imphal on 4th June. Neither were willing to admit defeat , neither even could put into words candidly that they were defeated but the fact starkly told them they were defeated on Kohima , Sato retreating remnants of his broken 33rd Japanese Division. With double meaning phases and Haikus they tried to turn around and eschew that 15th Japanese Army was finished at Imphal plain but could not bring themselves anything about it and accept failure and defeat due to cultural conundrum and taboo of putting it into words other than continue to attack futile offensive that would fail again and again with starved diseased men under their command that would destroy 15th Japanese Army.

[@MM22966]

Hey, if their high level officers best idea is "Stick d*ck in sausage grinder & turn crank", I am not objecting, and neither are the allies in the sub-continental theater.

[@AristotlesRevolution]

Thank you Indy and the crew for the coverage of World War 2 and the awesome DDay coverage. Your passion and love for what you guys do is inspiring and I will never forget these past years of coverage. To many more great episodes to come.

[@tmonkey3323]

damn i remember when i first discovered the series in september 1942 at the start of stalingrad and now we are here

[@clarkstartrek]

D-Days in the Pacific..........Although most people associate the term D-Day with the Normandy invasion on June 6, 1944, it is military code for the beginning of any offensive operation. In the Pacific theater during World War II there were more than one hundred D-Days. The largest-and last-was the invasion of Okinawa on April 1, 1945, which brought together the biggest invasion fleet ever assembled, far larger than that engaged in the Normandy invasion.

[@stoffls]

What an evenful week. Of course, D-Day overshadows a lot, but the liberation of Rome, the more or less defeat of the Japanese at Kohima etc. This feels like a new war now. And to Rome: as much as Kesselring was a war criminal he made the right choice in declaring Rome an open city and therefore sparing it bombardement and widespread destruction. It is a beautiful city of so much historical significance, that it would have been a huge loss for the world, had the Allies have to fight their way through Rome.

[@merdiolu]

To be fair Kesselring had no time to demolish Rome throughly. Once Fifth Army broke through Gustav Line and Anzio , it was hot in heels of retreating Germans who were in a hurried retreat in order not to be trapped before reaching Thryenne Line further north. Two months later , Florance , middle Age capital of Europe and one of main ancient cities of Italy would not be so lucky. Under Kesselring's command , Germans before retreating , literally blew up that city and destroyed all but one of ancient mediavel bridges (26 of them) over Arno river in August 1944.

[@Raskolnikov70]

@@merdiolu Destroying or defending Rome seems kind of pointless - maybe Florence was different? Except for bragging rights, there was no impetus for the Allies to capture Rome when they could simply surround it, bypass it and keep heading north. Was Florence in a more strategic location?

[@merdiolu]

@@Raskolnikov70 Rome was the main intersection , road and railway hub in Central Italy (roads are everything especially in Italy sice Roman Empire) , military operations those are considered vital , not to mention airbases around Rome. There were administrative and logistical centers in Eternal City plus population. You could not bypass it. On top of everything listed above capturing Rome would be an important foreign diplomacy coup for Allies against neutrals and Axis sattalites and Italian Salo republic puppet regime (when he heard fall of Rome , Mussolini just crumbled in June saying without Rome , his regime in Italy was nothing) and raising morale at Alied home fronts and depressing Axis population. That the first Axis capital to fall as intended ibn Casablsnca Conferance. It showed Allies could walk as they talked. In Rome there is Tiber river with Tiber bridges which were militarily vital but Germans neglected to destroy. In Florance toewn center there is Arno river , and all medieval spans over it except one were destroyed by Germans before their retreat.

[@Raskolnikov70]

@@merdiolu All true, but the purpose of the Allied campaign in Italy wasn't to conquer Italy as fast as possible, it was to tie up the maximum number of German divisions possible by forcing them to defend it. The Allies had plenty of divisions to throw against the German defense line to the north, they could spare a few to beseige Rome and just sit there for months if the Germans decided to try to defend it. Likewise there was no huge need to capture road and rail network right away because the Germans were going to be stuck defending Italy no matter how fast the Allies were able to travel north. Maybe the diplomatic side of things mattered to smaller countries, but the Soviets couldn't care less. They were going to believe the Allies' promises of opening a 2nd front when the 2nd front was opened, not when they achieved some kind of milestone in the sideshow going on in Italy.

[@merdiolu]

@@Raskolnikov70 "All true, but the purpose of the Allied campaign in Italy wasn't to conquer Italy as fast as possible, " Uhhh no. Actually Allied objective was to reach Northern Italy , Po Valley (main breadbasket and industrial basin of Italy) as fast as possible and as quick as possible. Alexander and 15th Army Group (with pressure from Churchill and Whitehall) aimed to reach Po River , Milan and Turin before September 1944 (that would take a valuable food resource and industial zone away from German war economy) and threaten Balkans and Austria from south and west. Allies had not "plenty of division in Italian Theater" anymore after July 1944 compared the objectives in Northern Italy. Too bad for Alexander and his army group that seven Allied divisions withdrawn from 15th Army Group at the end of June 1944 for Operation Anvil / Dragoon landings in Southern France that crippled this prospect though main show was in France and SHEAF also needed ports and railway network in Southern France , mainly Toulon and Marseilles desperately. "it was to tie up the maximum number of German divisions possible by forcing them to defend it." That was the secondary objective that came along with it. By all means diversion of every German force to Italian peninsula was welcome to Eisenhower (who held Alexander in high regard) and SHEAF and vital to sucess of D-Day but Italian Campaign was not designed just for diversion of enemy resources but Allied grand strategy benefitted from that aspect most. "Likewise there was no huge need to capture road and rail network right away because the Germans were going to be stuck defending Italy no matter how fast the Allies were able to travel north." The pace of Allied advance to Northern Italy , number of German division tied up and advance routes available and eligible dictated that Allies desperately needed road and railway network in Rome. Communication and transport hubs are everything in modern war , these are usually main cities , that is why they are held desperately in order to faciliate your own advance and supply your spearheads and deny them to the enemy also (especially in Italy where mountain ranges dictated priorty of roads). By the time Gustav Line breached in May and June 1944 German Army Group C in Italy had lost 48.000 men inm Operation Diadem and Buffolo and little resources left to waste since they were not getting any reinforcemrnts from other fronts anymore due to Allied Cross Channel invasion was about to start and Soviet offensive was expected in East. As diversionary strategy , 15th Army Group aim was to tie down as many as possible that meant pushing forward so there is no relief for retreating German armies in Italy so for Allies that meant constantly pushing forward to reach Northern Italy before autumn rains , that means roads and railway junctions etc were vital. German Army Group C in Northern Italy deployed in Gothic line would receive reinforcements only in September 1944 with four more divisions but releasing two of its own to other fronts in exchange. That became possible due to capture of Rome and supply of 15th Army Group advance with roads and railways that came with it but with less and less Allied divisions.

[@MrMineHeads.]

Indy, your hard work along with everyone else in the production of this channel, is what made this project even happen. Our support is a consequence of the action of you guys. I believe I can appropriately speak on behalf of everyone who is watching that we all cannot commend you guys enough for the things you put out for free for everyone's viewing pleasure. Thank you so much!

[@robertm.8653]

Incredible, I'm humbled to be witness to such great content being made live. Thank you enormously for these video ❤

[@WorldWarTwo]

We’re so happy you enjoyed! You’re incredible!!!

[@randomlyentertaining8287]

That opening was just brilliant lol I also never realized just how much went right. The weather, the moon, Rommel being gone, many higher officers being gone. This really was their best chance for a while.

[@jamesgillen2339]

"The enemy diversion you are ignoring is the main attack." - Murphy's Rules of Combat

[@Raskolnikov70]

"If it's a stupid idea but it works, it's not a stupid idea." - still my favorite off that list.

[@Idcanymore510]

I do believe that there were a couple of tears in Indy's eyes at the end there. Rock on fella! You have created a historical archive for the entire planet that will live on for decades.

[@WorldWarTwo]

It was very hard to not let the waterworks loose while filming that.

[@mikaelcrews7232]

Big side note! Three big fleets in the Marshall islands and Kwajalein atolls are getting there top secret clearance to depart and it will take three hours for these fleets to get organized to set sail. There are nearly two dozen aircraft carriers, over a dozen battleships including the new Iowa class and Colorado class, and endless cruisers and destroyers.......it will take over a week for them to get too there destinations. I wonder how that will turn out??? The first B-29 superfortress landed a couple of weeks ago in Patton's fictional army's and the allies made sure that the German air force takes plenty of pictures of it!? Herman Georing saw the photos of it and he lost his metals! And some of the squadrons flew close enough to the southern part of Europe that the Germans took plenty of pictures of them on there way to China! German aircraft designers were amazed and said that they were nearly a year away from such designs and field testing prototypes!? I felt sorry for J.M. Stagg in the meteorology field, studying every scrap of information coming to him before the six of June and several weeks afterwards!

[@janlindtner305]

The D-Day broadcast was something of a marathon. With the intention of watching it in a long extension, I finished 7 hours behind due to food, torilet and a few naps, so I thank you for a good experience, not least the myth-busting information, the parachutist in the church tower, the frog clicker etc. and seeing the setting on lolation, from Paul Woodadge, you see that's what I call serious history information. Thanks👍👍👍

[@trtj200]

Everything You've done on every channel has been amazing! WWII wasn't even really mentioned in any history class I ever had even tho several of my teachers had served in Europe during the war. The detail of the D-Day shows was absolutely the best ever done! Any thoughts about covering the Battle of The Bulge in the same detail?

[@extrahistory8956]

The Bulge has already been covered in an incredible amount of detail by the _Operations Room_ channel. They even brought Indy and Jesse (Indy's successor in _The Great War)_ on board as guest narrators. Plus, I would rather prefer if they covered the Battle of Berlin in greater detail, so the Eastern front can finally get a mega special in this series.

[@WorldWarTwo]

@mike underwood Thank you so much! We’re happy you’ve enjoyed 😁 and that we’ve been able to shed some light on these historical events For future projects, loose lips sink ships soldier 🫡 but I can promise we’ve got plenty more to show you later down the line.

[@arunkottolli]

Hats off to Indy and his team for creating the best WW2 historical videos till date!

[@robb1068]

In the US, we’re biased against Montgomery, rooted from the movies “Patton” and “A Bridge Too Far”. But Overlord was his plan and we can see the beginnings of how the next several weeks will play out: a British armored shield is building up in the east, threatening Caen and drawing in the German panzers. Meanwhile, an American sword builds in the west, with greater movement they’ll go on to threaten the entire peninsula and set up the ultimate objective of Overlord… breakout.

[@merdiolu]

Thank you. I always try to dispell the false images of Hollywood history. Both movies you listed above were 1970'ies revisionism era productions that held little historical objective value. "A Bridge Too Far" was written a wartime SHEAF reporter later became a Hollywood screen writer (Cornelius Ryan) and Patton movie was adapted from biography of Patton written by Patton's own aide in camp Ladislas Farago who worshipped him.

[@lyndoncmp5751]

And Paris was liberated ahead of schedule and Normandy had fewer casualties than expected. Montgomery's 2nd British Army was in Brussels, Belgium when only Paris was supposed to be reached by early September. He was thus 400km beyond the Normandy target for 3 months. Its annoying how in Band of Brothers they groan when Montgomery is mentioned considering Major Richard Winters actually refered to Montgomery as "The real deal. An example to follow".

[@lyndoncmp5751]

merdiolu81 Even in the 1965 film The Battle of the Bulge they wrongly claim at the beginning when the German open their attack that Montgomery can't do anything for weeks, which is odd because he was actually down in the Ardennes within days, taking over command of US 1st Army and also immediately transferring British XXX Corps to the River Meuse at Namur.

[@bigwoody4704]

Bullcrap Monty stated in May he'd take Caen in Day at St Pauls school during Operation Thunder Clap and when his plan didn't work he walks it back stating he'd hold down the Panzer Divivions so the Yanks can advance crap - he did this shit many times. Like in the Ardennes - where he almost got sacked. Liddel Hart,Hastings,Keegan,Beevor,Bennet,Barnet,Kershaw,Barr,Atkinson and a slew of others all mention it Of course it was the Panzers not Bernard that decided where they were going. That and the Allied Jabos & Naval Guns 12 miles away off shore. JERRY had to deal with The US Army now,monty they dispatched him 4 yrs earlier at Dunkirk. Britain had good officers - he wasn't one of them

[@bigwoody4704]

Watch the damn video @ 13:11 air power and Naval guns right offshore were dealing the cards,they not Monty decided when they would move John Cornell ,oh I mean Lyndon

[@Southpaw658]

Took me over a week to finish the D-Day coverage and all I want is more. God bless you all

[@diamonddragonstreamarchive5616]

While I understand this was a longer than usual script, I'm still surprised that Oradour-sur-Glane didn't get a mention. On June 10, 1944, German forces massacred civilians at the small French town of Oradour-sur-Glane, killing 643. After the war, they rebuilt the town, but a little off the land of the original, which they turned into a WW2 memorial. The original town still stands as it did right after the massacre. The bombed buildings and shot vehicles still where they stood as they stood on that day.

[@caryblack5985]

I think they will cover it in War Against Humanity episode which will resume now that Spartacus has the time after the D Day project is over.

[@pocketmarcy6990]

Is that the one where they forced all those people into the church and burned it down?

[@caryblack5985]

@@pocketmarcy6990 Yes

[@arturo0727]

Watched the 24hr cover from home, work and sleep. Well done team. 👏👏 it gave me a new perspective in how d-day unfolded instead of just couple of sentences from history textbooks.

[@gunman47]

This week on June 10 1944, the following missions in the Call of Duty and Medal of Honor series will begin (not exhaustive): *June 5 1944* Pathfinder - Call of Duty *June 6 1944* Ste. Mere-Eglise - Call of Duty (Level used in the demo as well) Pegasus Bridge - Call of Duty Glider Crash - Call of Duty: Roads to Victory The Great Crusade - Call of Duty 2: Big Red One D-Day - Call of Duty: World War 2 The Battle of Pointe Du Hoc - Call of Duty 2 St. Mere Eglise (day) - Call of Duty Normandy, Route N13 - Call of Duty Brecourt Manor - Call of Duty Pegasus Bridge (day) - Call of Duty Scavenger Hunt - Call of Duty: Roads to Victory Omaha Beach - Medal of Honor: Allied Assault Your Finest Hour - Medal of Honor: Frontline Into the Breach - Medal of Honor: Frontline Normandy - Medal of Honor: Spearhead Lock & Load - Medal of Honor: Spearhead Hunt Begins - Medal of Honor: Spearhead Saved By Sacrifice - Medal of Honor: Airborne *June 7 1944* Defending the Pointe - Call of Duty 2 Battle in the Bocage - Medal of Honor: Allied Assault The Nebelwerfer Hunt - Medal of Honor: Allied Assault (Level used in the demo as well) It really shows very easily just how well covered D-Day and the immediate days are shown in just both of them compared to other important points in the war with the sheer number of missions here.

[@pax6833]

Wowza, I remembered so many of those video games. That's my childhood right there. It really is such an iconic moment in history.

[@narayasuiryoku1397]

We need a bagration game.

[@MrBboy95]

I think you missed MoH Airborne, Utah Beach

[@ZadakLeader]

I love MOHAA

[@gunman47]

@@MrBboy95 Oh right, I forget to add that too, shall add it later. Thank you for highlighting it!

[@hello55125]

Wow that was a bit emotional at the end there! Totally choked me up!! Seriously though I would like to say a massive thankyou to Indy and all the team. The sheer amount of work you must all put into this project has payed off ten fold. It is by far the best ever coverage of WW2. You should be proud of yourselves. I look forward to all the future projects.

[@Perkelenaattori]

It's heading for a massive showdown on the Karelian Isthmus. I have my doubts that the first Finnish lines will hold but surely the Finns who excel on the defence will be able to make it very costly for the Red Army.

[@FalseNomen]

Here's the crazy thing--I genuinely don't know what happens there during this phase in the war. It was never part of my general education on WWII. Guess I'll find out!

[@Perkelenaattori]

@@FalseNomen Great to hear that this will be educational. What will happen will surely be the biggest battle in the history of the Nordic countries.

[@hentehoo27]

Mannerheim was too obsessed to defend lines in the East Karelia. Should have focused on the Karelian Isthmus instead.

[@pocketmarcy6990]

Boy I sure hope this doesn’t lead to Finland dropping out of the war

[@Raskolnikov70]

@@pocketmarcy6990 Finland kinda dropped out of the war back in 1941 once they reached their objectives. They did a pretty good job of threading the needle between two much bigger countries and came out of it better than most European countries at the end.

[@w-james9277]

I remember getting excited when the Dunkirk coverage began. After five years I can’t believe we're finally here!

[@andrewbrock3650]

I just finished all 24 hours last night. I'm beyond words to describe what an incredible effort that was. I still don't understand why the Allies opted for taking a big risk in Normandy rather than just concentrating all of their efforts into Italy. To me, that seems far less complex.

[@extrahistory8956]

If they reach the Po valley in Northern Italy, they would have been confronted by the Alps, which as proven by the Italian front in the first world war, would be incredible hard to traverse, supply and fight on.

[@T_Mo271]

Rather difficult to stage 100's of thousands of men and all that equipment and ships (and keep it all secret) if it all was based in the Mediterranean or North Africa.

[@Raskolnikov70]

@@extrahistory8956 This. Northern Europe was a nice flat plain all the way from France to Berlin. If the Allies tried to hit Germany from the south they would have had to fight their way through some pretty horrible terrain no matter which route they broke out of Italy from. Possible, but it would have taken much longer and cost many more lives to do it that way vs. invading northern France.

[@donaldbrown4564]

14.00 'Unknown Soldier' is a very good Finnish/Swedish(?) drama series on the Continuation War. Seemingly very realistic and also quite sad.

[@dstillermann]

When in the very beginning Indy said “this week the Soviets attack the Finns,” I nearly shat myself laughing.

[@Raskolnikov70]

If you've been watching this series for a while, you knew Indy was going to bring up something OTHER than Overlord when he started that monologue.