Weihrauch HW99s / HW50s. Best all round springer air rifle?

This is a chat about the Weihrauch HW99s, known as the HW50s in the rest of the world.
Hope it is of interest.
Cheers!

[@rapalaron6348]

Nice to see a quality springer instead that enormous pcp soup. I own almost all HW springer models and even the 99s is a great shooting rifle. Thanks for Showing mate 👍

[@gardenguns]

My pleasure. It is the unsung hero in the HW line up!

[@KolyaNickD]

Is tuning important? Perhaps they smooth in over time..

[@paultowns9880]

Having recently purchased a 99s in .22 i was pleasantly surprised at how easy it is to shoot accurately. A great review.

[@gardenguns]

It is truly a fantastic rifle!thanks for watching! 👍

[@willpage5556]

I have the HW50. Over here in the US it’s almost always called the HW50s but the rifle is marked HW50. I understand that in the past the HW50 had a more basic trigger and the “s” model had the Rekord trigger. Now they all have the Rekord trigger. (Not sure if that is how it is spelled). I have owned 2. The mainspring broke in the first after about 1 year. The importer replaced the rifle with a new one. Weihrauch and their importer in the US stand by their guns. The rifle is accurate and fun to shoot with or without a scope.

[@gardenguns]

Yes I believe the other trigger unit was called the Perfekt trigger. Thanks for the input. It is really appreciated!

[@ROBERTSMITH-io7tb]

Brilliant 👏 thank you so much, I've been considering the 99s for open sight shooting for a while and you've made my mind up

[@gardenguns]

Please let me know how you get on with it. I hope you find it as good as I do!

[@markhomer5704]

Ahhhh open sights, brings back memories of 73 / 74 with my mercury.. Still got it.. What a good vid, back to basics.. Awesome..

[@gardenguns]

Thanks Mark. Wish my eyes were as sharp as they were in the 80’ s with my Meteor!

[@davidupton3186]

Great review, thank you. I have a 99s and I love it.

[@gardenguns]

Thanks David. My pleasure!

[@neilchristian1635]

Really nice overview mate good job I love my 99s fits good.

[@gardenguns]

Thanks mate, I’m glad you enjoyed it. 😁👍

[@nickwebb9290]

A wonderful review as always, like popping round to mates place and him chatting through airgun stuff. I have a real soft spot for springers, owning two but they’re not Weihrauchs, something that would be nice to address. Cheers, keep up the great videos 👍 PS: personally an update on this model would be great 😁

[@gardenguns]

Thanks Nick. Once I have the pennies I will send it off to Ratworks and see what magic they can perform. I promise an update when I do. Might be a while though. Tuning the HW99s is at the bottom of my expenditure list atm.

[@nickwebb9290]

@@gardenguns When it happens it happens, am sure like everyone else, we’ll be around to enjoy your video when it happens. All the best 😁

[@hmfc2005]

Really good review and you were a bit hard on yourself - good shooting with open sights! I rather sceptically invested in one of these but ordered from Sandwell Field Sports - it is their 'Imp Mark 2' version of the 99 with a screw-cut barrel in .22. It has now seen off my HW80, HW90, HW77 and HW97 as I just wasn't shooting them after getting that. 14.66 grain H&N FTT in 5.52 are its diet of choice. I regularly Chrono it and its' 11.4/5 ft lbs with a silky smooth cycle and pretty much as accurate as my .22 HW100. Incredible wee rifle!

[@gardenguns]

The imp is a fantastic custom model of the 99. I hope to get hold of one to compare it one day.

[@airgunnostalgia4210]

Great rifle!! I've just picked one up myself and super happy with it! Thanks for sharing - just subscribed too your channel too.

[@gardenguns]

Thanks for watching.Really appreciate the sub!

[@eskimojulie]

Mine was destroying piston seals at a rate of nots due to the weld at the end of the cylinder ,protruding inside , cured with a second hand cylinder and now is a really nice rifle .

[@gardenguns]

Glad you got it sorted. 👍

[@rd6781]

Mine had the same. Had it repaired but disappointed in weihrauch

[@gardenguns]

That is a shame. Always bad to hear about drops in quality from such a major company.

[@ytucharliesierra]

I have the 57.177 with a 6x42AO scope on it and with a 7,5 joule/5,5 lbs limitation. It's a complement to a 40 I have. I got it a good two years ago. I wasn't satisfied with the results with the H&N Excite Econ II pellets, which I normally use with my 40. I had some gnarly flyers on occasions. Finally I started with the H&N Sport and only last week, after a good 1500 shots did I complete the breaking in, myself included. 😅I happily found the right ammo and at last I am shooting some nice tight one hole groups of five and incidentally on the very same distance of 15 meters as you here! 🙃 And so I want to say: maybe one could add your cold fingers in the equation if you think it could have been better, however I find you did an excellent group just there, especially with the ironsights! 👏👍 Once a Weihrauch is duly broke in, it is always on target, no matter what price segment. 😋

[@alancummings7107]

Got one couple of years ago it was ok but not great so sent it off to SFS for tuning moderator fitted and beautiful thumb hole stock now not only looks great but accurate enough for pigeons up to forty yards .

[@gardenguns]

Nice!

[@johnroberts3723]

Hw50 basically the same rifle i have one and I love it totally agree with you with it being the one that you would keep if you had to make a choice i would make the same choice only mine is the only one I have and that keeps things simple. The reason I would make that choice is that the rifle is an all rounder for weight power usability and quality.

[@gardenguns]

@@johnroberts3723 thanks, for watching John. Keep an eye open. I have decided to get mine tuned to see if it makes much of a difference. There will be a video going up when I get it back.

[@MrAvant123]

Having shot air rifles for nearly 50 years I have to say if PCP airguns had been available in the 70's and 80's the toll on wildlife would have been far greater as it so much harder to shoot springers well !

[@scousewillo62]

I have a 99s .177 from about 2010. I had shaunt off the AGF polish the internals, make a set of guides/top hat and set it at 9/10flb, currently 9.5flb with Rangemaster Kaiser. I have used it with factory opens, AR style peep sights, dioptre and finally a x3 prism scope. It is amazingly accurate and so sweet to shoot. I can cock it with 1 finger and out shoots me with ease. I also have a HW90k .22 that is fantastic. So smooth to cock and shoot but obviously much larger and heavier. If I had to choose one it would be the 99s, I also have a Daystate mk3 but my heart lies with the break barrel's

[@gardenguns]

A lot of work has gone into that rifle!

[@allgood6535]

Have brought 1 today in 177 the rifle is like a laser beam for accuracy for a springer

[@gardenguns]

I hope you find it as good as I found mine. If I foul only have 1rifle it would be a 99s!

[@felgate11]

Interesting you should mention "Fuzzy & Blurry" mate, I'm 67 now but I used to shoot small bore rifle competition in my early 20's for my works rifle club (I even won a little Medal in the Leeds & District SRA) but we did have a guest shooter/speaker one evening, who spoke about Focus at the point of aim. He was of the opinion, that it is better to have a clear view through the Dioptre sight & have a slightly Fuzzy view of the downrange Target. The Human eye (like a camera) can't have Everything in focus all at the same time. (Maybe something to have a think about)

[@joebergin8113]

Really enjoyed your review. Just wondering about your up grade fibre optics foresight? I just purchased a 50s and planned to use only the iron sights. I’m in my seventies and think fibre optics would be , as you mentioned , a great up grade. Is there one offered specifically for this gun? I live in NS Canada . What specific brand did you mount on your gun? Thanks

[@gardenguns]

Thanks Joe, glad you enjoyed the video. If you google Weihrauch Fiber optic sights, or Weihrauch TRUGLO sights. Hopefully you will somebody that sells them in CA or the US or will ship to you. There are a couple of European suppliers, however they don’t seem to offer shipping outside of Europe. These are an official product and are on the Weihrauch website, so I would think companies like Pyramid air or Airguns of Arizona could help you in Canada. All the best

[@starling61]

Now hear this Goldfinger!

[@gardenguns]

😁

[@6lr6ak6]

I've had 3 of the 99s in the past, for the money there's no better spring rifle, But I'd say to anyone pay a bit more and get the HW95, longer cylinder so can give more power if wanted, shorter screw cut barrel, and slightly thicker, also has a cocking shoe that rides on the cylinder, no chance of gauling. Oh and the 99s have a drooping barrel, supposedly better for the open sights, put a straight edge on the barrel block when the rear sights removed and you'll see the barrel isn't inline with the cylinder, it makes zeroing them with a scope difficult, you'll find you need the elevation screwed near all the way out, that's anti clockwise, where as with the 95 you don't have that prob.

[@gardenguns]

Thanks for the info. I hadn't noticed the drooping barrel. Will have to get my hands on a 95 now!

[@6lr6ak6]

@@gardenguns Yes the 99s are good, but that drooping barrel really put me of them,

[@PaulMoorhousehankooks]

Get rid of the galling issue like TBT gives details and it's a great rifle

[@nickallen8333]

What is TBT?

[@user-zg3vj2wb2b]

The only criticism l have is not with the rifle, but l can’t understand why Weihrauch refuse to use fibre optics foresights. It makes shooting with open sights such a dream. Or is it just me? But the gun is a classic!

[@gardenguns]

It does make it easier! It was a great upgrade to this rifle.

[@Fiftypellets]

Smeeeeg heeeeead😂😂

[@gardenguns]

🤣🤣🤣

[@NoBody-gr6zv]

🤬 SACRILEGE 😅 you never speak the words budget or entry level anywhere near a Weirauch 😬 rather, purpose built precision air guns 😂😉 Hw30/s/: low power, beginner, junior, plinker etc Hw50/99/s: mid power, intermediate all rounder as you said Hw57: Hw50 underlever version Hw80: high power (not magnum) springer definite fac for you chaps Hw90: Hw80 but gas ram version Hw77/97: both high power underlevers just different trims Agreed this would be my choice too, nice vid 🤙🏽🤙🏽

[@1970sman]

Nothing "mid power" about the 99s in the UK. They are full power sub 12. Same as any other more expensive Weihrauch none FAC.

[@NoBody-gr6zv]

@@1970sman Correct, the Hw50 in fac version is around 14 joules which should fit right in with the sub 12 standard there without any tinkering by factory. A fac hw80 would be around 24 joules or +-16 fpe. What I was trying to show is that Weirauch doesn't make "budget guns" per se. They just make top shelf guns for the different sectors of the market and budget manufacturers replicate their designs using budget materials etc hence the saying you get what you pay for and if you own a Weirauch then 😉

[@dirkdoenvanv.8156]

GRRRR for over 16 minutes talking about an springer................what about waste of time? Just don't do it

[@gardenguns]

Hey man thanks for watching! I appreciate you to choose to watch my content and I am great full that you spent time watching to work out you didn’t like it. Can I suggest Andy’s Airgun Reviews? His content is probably what you are looking for.