I Failed And Camshaft Challenge Update

[@baby-sharkgto4902]

Eric this cam challenge is the coolest gearhead thing on the internet 💯

[@edsmachine93]

Good morning Eric. This camshaft challenge is shaping up to be very interesting. You have really have pulled together an interesting group of competitors. I am excited to see the outcome of the camshaft shootout. Glad that you're going to have 4 or 5 days of Dyno testing. Thanks for sharing the updates. And, used car shopping is not fun! I feel for you. Have a great weekend. 👍

[@dinadaughtry8993]

Just a spectator but it is one of the coolest competitions I have seen can not wait to see all the results and who wins

[@peskypeet]

Dude, this was already looking awesome. This is now looking like an ultimate camshaft showdown. WAY TO GO!!!

[@____MC____]

This is the kind of thing that pushes the industry forward.

[@rogerpaulll1451]

You nailed it winners want to compete losers want to complain

[@BeetleatWar]

some people need cheese for their whine

[@prestonforbes9037]

Nailed that comment

[@straubtechnologies]

Update, grinder got cam done to day...shipping RED Label EWR

[@seantroutt3291]

Eric, you have lit everybody up with this cam challenge. I am so excited to see your results. You have cut through the BS and inspired a lot of people to get on board. Keep up the good work. In case you haven't seen it yet, DV says your porting is near top notch.

[@Cowboy.underwater]

Really excited to see Howard’s and DV. Thanks for putting this on!

[@Mpcoluv]

I would love to see David Vizard and Chris Straub in the test.

[@philminotti6870]

New subscriber because of the challenge. Love your style. Donated. Great content needs to be supported!

[@coreykallmbah7580]

I’m pulling for Daniel Powell Powell machine 💪

[@powellmachineinc]

Ty sir!

[@zachgarris3773]

Powell the only one that doesn't bull shit people. Doesn't get caught up in the internet trends and is a see it to believe it guy. I think he's got it in the bag, especially if he's got .075 range on his push rod selection. Good luck Mr. Powell.

[@powellmachineinc]

@@zachgarris3773 ty!

[@rickbrandt9559]

Thanks!

[@biastv1234]

Good to see Salter racing is in

[@Comet-hn3gm]

Been a subscriber shortly after you started the channel. This is a very cool competition.

[@gordongrimes2797]

eric this was one of your best rants LOL your show your choices take the money for testing the good people know your honesty the truth for each cam thanks

[@mikeg4163]

Really great job …. Just some grassroots good old fashioned hot rod stuff….

[@GrandPitoVic]

Yes Daniel Powell is a cool guy.

[@powellmachineinc]

Ty sir!

[@malcolmshaw2609]

Thanks

[@rickyfulks6656]

Really awesome the viewers have pitched n,goes a long way to educating us.Thanx again Eric

[@bruceplumisto]

Lol, the low oil story was great! Sorry about that luck! I have watched your channel for a few years now, I did click on the cam challenge video until I saw it on the Powell racing channel. First off I am sorry, butt what a great exposure for you! Hope it brings in the success you deserve!

[@leprechaungarage]

Just donated , hopefully DZ gets a cam in to you . Thanks for all you do . I to hate front wheel drives . My daughter (16) has an 03 dodge stratus ( used to be wife’s daily till 18 ) . What a joke to work on . Valve cover under the freakin cowl , had a couple sticky lifters … bla bla got it fixed but Eff me lol

[@roknroy1]

Come on people, we are about to get priceless information on this test, let’s step up and donate enough to help Eric earn money while he’s not at work making money, have a heart!❤

[@timheuer6049]

I gave my 100$

[@krusher74]

ill be really suprised if out a group of top guys from the field there is one cam with magic heuge gains, Ill guess the power spread will be 5% or less.

[@Huntinghogs]

When something is learned from failure, it’s not a failure.

[@briandeaton3550]

My dad used to winterize the lawn equipment by draining the oil in the fall. Without checking the oil in the riding mower, I towed sleds in the snow until it locked up. That's what sons who don't think do. :)

[@yolocah]

here is a standing ovation for what you are doing, Data available

[@rickyfulks6656]

Brian Salter is an interesting entry

[@Adrenacyde]

Just started watching his videos. Really like his stuff and good to listen to while wrenching.

[@rickyfulks6656]

@@Adrenacyde He's an ace sharing lots of good stuff

[@WildEngineering]

youre damn straight, we just want the data, whoever wins gets bragging rights but the viewers all win with the information that these dynos will provide. Thanks to anyone who donated money for dyno time, it is very appreciated by viewers.

[@BDauto86]

I would love to see Martin Smallwood, Richard Holdener, Brian Tooley and John Bewley get in on this. Theyre all very familiar with the LS platform and know how to spec a camshaft very well.

[@cedricwilson2055]

Norris did good. As well as Texas speed cam.

[@keysautorepair6038]

Summit Racing has always been a great company in my opinion they always make it right just my experience with them glad they are helping out!

[@DHunter52171]

Looking forward to seeing the results of the cam challenge Eric. Forgive yourself on the oil check guidance, yes it is expensive. No one is perfect.

[@doncarlson8391]

Nice to see you a bit calmer. Sorry about thr car, expensive learning experience for both of you. Looking forward to the cam tests!

[@davidreed6070]

This is very interesting,. For the guy out here it will be the best learning curve we will get.

[@cliffturner5086]

12.18am Sunday here in Australia right now.

[@JG-kv4oi]

Gosh it's 9:18 AM Saturday here in Montana land. You're living in the future 😮

[@pontiac411]

Good to see Summit step up.

[@timothybayliss6680]

Its probably an off the shelf unit but thats fine, it gives a baseline that everyone has access to. It is also really cheap advertising for them.

[@PaulCTownsend]

My 1986 GT Ford mustang 5.0 came from the factory oil level sensor it worked great.

[@jcnpresser]

My niece did the same thing on her car. They called me to come look at it and I told my brother get me a socket to fit that filter. Full of metal. Pull the dip stick, no oil. 4 quarts low.

[@benrossbach6501]

Not a failure. A learning lesson, and an expensive on sure.

[@peskypeet]

Some of the time it's only a lesson if they are the one paying the bill.

[@DarrinDeBoer]

100 percent. What data. Going buy the winner. 👍🇺🇸

[@JR-The_Godfather_of_Horsepower]

My daughter turns 34 next week, and guess what. They never truly stop costing you money!

[@benrossbach6501]

Amen on kids just getting more expensive.

[@patrickwendling6759]

❤ Thank you for your knowledge and videos USA 🇺🇸

[@bdd1469]

This test benefits everyone, especially the ones whos cams don't win. Take every penny and gift card you can get.

[@hillperformancebimmers4026]

This is really cool, thanks for doing this. Donated!

[@jb314stl]

I’m pulling for Brian Salter.

[@GaryWhipple-q6w]

The best Cam will be the one that makes the most average HP in the RPM range you operate in. Not nessarily the top hp number 😊

[@arturozarate1752]

There's a movie with Kurt Russell called Used Cars.....its a prerequisite for dad's and son's in my hometown looking at used cars.

[@gssracing1]

I can’t wait to see the results of the contest !! Exciting

[@alanhill5513]

Just sent another hundo. More cam tests🥳

[@richardmoerke9329]

You can only do what you can do by your rules and good luck with fun contests. I think it’s going to be fun. I really hope all the camshaft come.

[@andysteele4056]

I've messed with plenty of ecotecs with timing chain issues. They are not bad at all to work on. The tensioners are oil pressure fed and are prone to failure. The metal in the filter its probaly chain material. You might even get away with just popping a new tensioner in it for 50 bucks and run it. Its on the back side of the engine on the passenger side (obviously). Uses a 32mm socket (same as the oil filer). Flex head ratchet helps. Another comon failure that causes the same thing is the vvt solenoids on top of the valve cover. Super easy to pop new ones in if they fail an ohm test. They should meausre 8-13 ohms each. They also have little screens that get full of crud. As long as the chain guides aren't broken these cheap easy fixes should get it back on the road. If they are bad get the chain kit from Cloyes and a cheap timing cover gasket. 100 bucks and 5-6 hours of work and your good to go...Then some snake oil to help de-carbon the oil rings so it doesn't happen again...as fast.

[@GaryWhipple-q6w]

Quick way to check valve clearance stack some feelers between the valve and the rocker and roll it over manually won't tell you anything about the radial clearance but give you alittle peace of mind

[@EricBrandt-r7p]

Calling Mike Jones & Brian Tooley! $1000 up for grabs…..Crickets🤣 Maybe Billy Godbold should be looking @ this🤣 I hope DV’s cam shows up!👍

[@WeingartnerRacing]

I think Mike Jones in as many words said no. Tooley I don’t know about. Same with Billy Godbold.

[@jefferybuchan4235]

good on Chris Strube. He atleast is trying his best.

[@OSRn77e]

Dude this deal is getting major attention 😂😂😂

[@timothybayliss6680]

The reason why the cam angle sensor is showing an issue is because the chain tensioner is oil fed. No chain tension, skip teeth. Feed that engine some 15w40 rotella to make up for the huge bearing clearences and it might last for years

[@rogerpaulll1451]

Can't wait to see Brian salters and david vizards cams

[@Johnson-uy9xq]

Straub is great at what he does.

[@keysautorepair6038]

Just take the money we all trust you will do the right thing and tell us the truth!

[@dinadaughtry8993]

Gonna be a lot of wrenching but All the data is well worth it

[@straubtechnologies]

Check is overnighted. Cam will ship from grinder tomorrow Overnight UPS RED Label.

[@burnz3132]

Take the money!! As long as you’re not being bias and show the numbers as they are. After that what difference does it make?! This is science nothing more or less. Your personal opinion will depend on what you’re wanting!

[@magnusdanielsson2749]

Really nice that so many are interested in the challenge. Will be fun to see the result Too bad so many people seem to want to bitch and whine so much about small details..

[@modified15r]

The 2.4 eotec needs to have the timing chain changed every 100k miles. Treat it like a timing belt. The metal in the oil filter housing is probably from the chain rubbing against the block for several thousand miles .If the motor is not knocking would probably be ok with a new timing chain kit. Timing chain is super easy too change. About two hours.

[@robholmes2129]

They are pretty easy to change actually,gm left the oil level sensor out on purpose to hide the fact they all burn oil

[@mannmadesbc]

Enjoyed the content. Eventually, hopefully, you will have a chance to dyno the ATM carb vs the Edelbrock VR carb.

[@toddsculley2710]

Great video Eric

[@Cowboy.underwater]

I have a 2012 accord v6 btw. Almost 200,000 miles and still runs like the day I bought it. No oil leaks, nothing. Lets you set cruise control at 125 btw😅

[@rickbrandt9559]

Sure would have been nice to have Yours/Eric's/George B' & others channel/info for us in the hinter lands in the 70's. sadly out of the game today @ 79 .But still interested. donated

[@TimothyArnott-m7z]

Hey Eric, Tim here, what about Brent Lykins????...did he foul up???....he's kinda snazzy at cam grinds......at this point, Powell, Salter (who is QUITE the man) , Summit, we got SERIOUS dudes here......BOY i cant wait!!......wish Vizard and Lykins wud get their stuff there.....but it'll be what it'll be.....i follow ALL those dudes......Daniel, has already helped my shop on a Ford FE build...(lifter issue he solved) Salter is a special dude, yea Summit OK, but i wish Vizard and Lykins wud get their stuff there, like NOW!!.......MAN, this is gonna be AWESOME!!!......serious dudes.....i cant wait!!...TY sir for startin this whole thing, what a GREAT idea/platform for ALL involved!!

[@WeingartnerRacing]

His campaign is here and entered.

[@TimothyArnott-m7z]

@@WeingartnerRacing YEAH!!😄 awesome!!..TY sir!!

[@hankclingingsmith8707]

As soon as you said teenager and car has no power i new it was out of oil. Happen all the time

[@wizzkidelectronics]

check to see if the metal sticks to a magnet if so its the upper guide worn down by the chain ... i replace the chain with the gm kit and balance shaft chain and guides . and it will last another 200k as long as you keep oil in it ... that 2.4L is the most robust engine gm ever made ... just goes through oil and chains

[@krusher74]

The momonet you said he said "its down on power" i knew it had no oil left in it, lol.

[@turbo1438]

Yup, me too. But that knowledge came from making the same mistake several times myself.

[@JAGMotorworks]

So who will be making and selling the cam that wins??

[@timothybayliss6680]

Powell seems like they do really good work. I am kind of surpised you dont use them for cams that you spec.

[@DamienFrench-f3w]

Just donated $60 usd in the hope you get enough for the 4th day so dv can get his cam in. It wouldn’t be right if we didn’t get to see dv spec a cam in this test

[@slicepizza3263]

Give each cam a number and randomly draw to see which cam tests second, third, etc.

[@WeingartnerRacing]

That’s how it will go.

[@timmiller260]

My son was 17teen before he had van I showed him to change oil on my truck and sent him to do his I put the old oil filter on wall with note my son became a young man and when out and down street was trail of oil I drove down road to friends he was playing video games handed him 2 q of oil.told him find leak was filler luse. Wow😊

[@Adrenacyde]

If DV's cam (if it even shows in time...) doesn't CLOBBER the other entries, that'll be a fun video for him to make...

[@I_like_turtles_67]

DV is very particular and I'd guess his biggest complaint would be not spending the extra time needed to properly install the cam and confirm things. However, everyone has been told that none of them are getting that attention to detail.

[@HSTvids357]

Here after his community post today, where he's already alluding to excuses he's going to make when it goes down.

[@Adrenacyde]

@@HSTvids357 Saw that one coming from a MILE away. I commented there too. 😆

[@mhardy216]

Love this camshaft test

[@johnchartrand5910]

Hopefully you find a way to get David V camshaft into the contest

[@TheBDD1970]

If the goal is being met, it doesn't matter imo, who thinks what.

[@atheplummer]

Too bad on the Malibu engine. You didn't say which 4 cyl engine it has, but from your description it sounds like a 2.4L. GM had a major issue with those early engines, for oil consumption. They did a recall on them, where they would replace sleeves & pistons. They also have a major issue with cam tensioners breaking. When this happens, because it's a interference motor, usually wind up crashing the valves into the pistons. Sounds like you caught it in time. The 2.4L also has a mechanical, high pressure, fuel pump, that winds up leaking fuel past the bladder & fuel actually gets into the crank case. I believe this is the real reason for most of the issues with this engine. When fuel gets mixed in with the oil, it breaks down the oil, which causes excessive wear & oil consumption. You might want to look into GM's recall, If I'm correct that you have a 2.4L.

[@rickkelsch2040]

Be interesting what Straub can do, he acks like the camshaft guru.

[@richardvanmarter8780]

We got to have grandpa Vizard in the competition

[@dinadaughtry8993]

My kids are all grown so I feel your pain

[@crd-nz_001]

Hey Eric, I did email about entering, but sadly, the specs I wanted to run are impossible with the dot-to-dot condition. I could do it if the 9 way adjustable cam chain was an option. However, I see this as unfair to everyone else who have already ground their cam to dot-to-dot specs. Point being is I wanted a intake centerline of 100, where the cam blanks are 110 so there simply isn't enough meat in the lobe to cut such a spec to go dot-to-dot. The only way is cut a LSA of 108, then go +8 advanced on the 9 way. To anyone interested, I was to run, Intake 240@0.050 on 100 centerline Exhaust 250@0.050 on 116 centerline. Lobe Separation Angle 108 0.655in lift in/ex. Even the cam grinder said "no one runs that spec," which would of been interesting to see. The other is it would run 30° of overlap above 0.050 which would be interesting to see how this would effect idle quality.

[@BeetleatWar]

mine got other durations/lsa but a 101ICL - will be interesting to see how it plays out

[@TurboJohn74]

Used car shopping has an extra pain to it these days... They're all horribly expensive vs 4yrs ago

[@rickyfulks6656]

Come on DV

[@brentsmith9121]

I wanna see how the cam with less exhaust duration does

[@CLEEPER1]

Do you see much benefits in porting the small bore?

[@BrentFrancis-h8o]

The competition is a great idea. Thank you. Is Bullet or Flow Tech Induction taking part?

[@YoJoe-s4b]

I got a cam, I can’t share it though, it has secret specs. I’m going to Use it at race wars against Hector. I hear he’s got a full motec setup on a Spoon engine.

[@arturozarate1752]

Pffffft but he's going legit bro....and those spoon engines ain't gonna have any oil after that guy had to kiss them shoes. He drank it all.

[@YoJoe-s4b]

@@arturozarate1752 facts! 😂

[@lte008]

Good to see Cam Motion. Wonder if Mike Jones will send one.

[@alexanderknight7793]

I haven’t heard you say what Is the size if the engine??

[@df5849]

I willing to pay the $100 fir Howard's to enter... 😊 C'mon Howards use one of harold Brookshires designs...

[@arturozarate1752]

Ya know.....I believe they were one of the first to comment on sending a cam in.....🤷‍♂️

[@MechanicsChoice]

3/4 race cam for the win 😂🇦🇺

[@Low760]

Yeah. From the three grinders left here!

[@gssracing1]

I dunno. I’d go with the 13/16 cam. 😂

[@the1knifepro169]

@@gssracing1 Never ever do that, you need the 7/8ths or the 8/10's only! Trust me brother.

[@gibbsey9579]

What is that in metric???

[@the1knifepro169]

@@gibbsey9579 If you mean sillymeters you would need to ask a snooty Frenchmen to ensure optimal results. 🤣😂

[@stormyyoung6344]

I donated some $ because its going to make some cool videos and good info. Go donate everyone!!!

[@95Sn95]

My 95 mustang gt with a 5.0HO has a oil pressure gauge but also an oil level light that goes off at at Qt down which is 4qts. It's nice the only car I've had that had one and the rear main leaks when full so I have to keep it a half Qt down or it leaks and gets on the clutch and then it slips but keeping it a half Qt low it's fine. Years ago the harmonic dampener/ balancer went to hell and the outer ring came loose and cockeyed and was close to flying off, I noticed by luck looking for a short started and was replaced with the correct 50oz balance dampener but for years Its had a vibration in higher rpms so I suspect the clutch has issues but functionally it works fine, other than that I don't have a clue why it has a vibration. If anybody has input on it I'd love to hear it. Other than that it runs great.

[@steveSestric]

I think people would love to see david vizard put his money where his mouth is. This is a perfect chance for his camshft program to prove its worth. I would Love to see how good he does or does not do.

[@krusher74]

i think he is in.

[@Low760]

It just sounds like he relies on others and they can let you down.

[@jakeblack4095]

I totally agree

[@gssracing1]

If he don’t enter. He should shut his mouth and never put out another video.

[@aslacker]

The dude literally thinks that Lobe separation is the end all be all. I can't stand him

[@jimandskittum]

You can buy a bluetooth scanner to check basic codes for about $15. Elmscan