Weird Chess Tournament Rules You Didn't Know Existed!

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@rockbark2137
@rockbark2137 Жыл бұрын
I love how every time you mention devices or cheating, you then show Niemen reaching under a table 😂
@msizimanqele2811
@msizimanqele2811 Жыл бұрын
Defamation 😂
@mikmop
@mikmop 4 ай бұрын
Well, it could have been worse. You could have gone from a shot of Niemann... to a shot of a dildo. Now that would have been defamatory.
@snoogs7641
@snoogs7641 Жыл бұрын
Imagine your opponent sneezes and you say "bless you" and your opponent calls over the arbiter. Like bruh...
@rookmoves
@rookmoves Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@theshatteredseas4629
@theshatteredseas4629 Жыл бұрын
I wonder if sneezing or coughing is also considered against the rules
@-petrichor-7263
@-petrichor-7263 Жыл бұрын
​@@theshatteredseas4629If you do it excessively, yes.
@coachmcguirk6297
@coachmcguirk6297 Жыл бұрын
​@theshatteredseas4629 no rule against nasty farts though. You are totally allowed to eat a jar of pickled eggs before the tournament and clear out the hall.
@-petrichor-7263
@-petrichor-7263 Жыл бұрын
@@coachmcguirk6297 They would probably kick you out if you did something like that.
@EdKolis
@EdKolis Жыл бұрын
"It's chess, not chest, ladies!"
@Cafendless
@Cafendless Жыл бұрын
Best comment lol
@Chad_Brewski
@Chad_Brewski Жыл бұрын
Hmmmmmm
@adamgomez1323
@adamgomez1323 Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@weeblordgaming6062
@weeblordgaming6062 Жыл бұрын
Time to find a different game then
@choudhurymonika9789
@choudhurymonika9789 Жыл бұрын
Meanwhile Andrea Botez
@martinwood744
@martinwood744 Жыл бұрын
Also if your opponent is about to win, official FIDE rules explicitly prohibit pulling out an AK47 and lead-showering them to the ground. It's considered to be unsportsmanlike behaviour. Wait till after the game.
@sexygeek8996
@sexygeek8996 Жыл бұрын
If it specifically mentions an AK-47 then you can still use a different weapon.
@aram8832
@aram8832 Жыл бұрын
Is glock allowed?
@Binahx86
@Binahx86 Жыл бұрын
I bet you an American cant go a full day without thinking "gun..."
@floss-tg
@floss-tg Жыл бұрын
@@Binahx86 i see we both share a passion racism /j
@alveolate
@alveolate Жыл бұрын
all FIDE rated chess pros know that using any type of gun to vent frustration is a rookie move. simply shuriken flick your king into the opponent's eye when you resign.
@1c0nic_player
@1c0nic_player Жыл бұрын
the touchmove rule actually doesn't apply to accidentally touching a piece. at least in uscf tournaments, i'm pretty sure it has to be "with the intent to move". if you knock a bishop with your elbow while reaching for a piece, you aren't required to move it. also, if you want to recenter a piece or something you can say "i adjust" before touching it and you don't have to move it. you can only do that on your time though
@arthurbraden4102
@arthurbraden4102 Жыл бұрын
There are contingencies with the USCF Touch Move Rule (Section 10) that you probably would not believe and Tournament Directors hold meetings behind the scenes to make sure they are clear as to what is meant (in KZbin try entering the search,"TD Show Episode 8 chess"), such as if you use one of your pieces and extend the piece to touch another piece then "you did touch the piece and you have to move it". :)
@arthurbraden4102
@arthurbraden4102 Жыл бұрын
I think you mean the Touch Move Rule does apply, but "not" if it is determined or obvious that they accidentally touched a piece without intending to move it, although this often must be discussed with a(n) TD/FIDE Arbiter.
@1c0nic_player
@1c0nic_player Жыл бұрын
@@arthurbraden4102 yeah true, although generally if i'm playing a tournament game and they claim it was by accident i won't press the issue.
@kenconnelly773
@kenconnelly773 Жыл бұрын
I’ll just copy and paste straight from the FIDE rulebook (it’s a little less forgiving then USCF but not by much): Law 4.2.2 “Any other physical contact with a piece, except for clearly accidental contact, shall be considered to be intent.” The law then goes on to describe being required to move the piece except as covered under 4.2.2 So many people get this wrong, I wonder if there are several arbiters out there incorrectly enforcing this.
@walterrldias
@walterrldias Жыл бұрын
the dude touched 3 of his pieces, on purpose, without stating "adjust" 3:44 ... so, I think intent to move plays a big role into this rule
@muhammedsuhail4369
@muhammedsuhail4369 Жыл бұрын
Magnus adjusting all pieces, *Touch move rule* =You have to move all pieces
@valiantwarrior1988
@valiantwarrior1988 Жыл бұрын
He'd get a hella of a good start if they force that
@c44473
@c44473 Жыл бұрын
you can say "adjust" then the touch move rule doesn't apply just don't do it excessively
@張謙-n3l
@張謙-n3l Жыл бұрын
Besides the 50-move rule, there's also a similar 75-move, which is also if neither player has moved a pawn or captured anything, but this time is a forced draw after 75 moves. While for the 50-move rule, one of the players must claim the draw
@floss-tg
@floss-tg Жыл бұрын
thank you for this information
@mr.schloopka1124
@mr.schloopka1124 Жыл бұрын
And the same is with threefold repetition, after a postion repeated 5 times, the arbiter may declare it a draw without players aproval.
@itsmimizim7672
@itsmimizim7672 Жыл бұрын
I extremely hate the double hand rule. It made me lose during the tornament since I accidentally used two hands to castle😭😭😭
@5POKY
@5POKY Жыл бұрын
as someone that has been in many chess tournaments i've known all of these rules except for the woman's outfit rule, that one was quite a shock to me since when i play chess i dont even look at my opponent unless he/she offers a draw or resignation or if i offer the same thing.
@kirillzakharov7336
@kirillzakharov7336 Жыл бұрын
it's a stupid rule imo
@versile_yt6482
@versile_yt6482 Жыл бұрын
U don't wanna see someone in a swimsuit during tournaments, that's why there is dress code and outfit rule🥲
@Magnulus76
@Magnulus76 Жыл бұрын
@@versile_yt6482 Yeah, the dress code makes sense. It's tournament chess, not a beach party.
@filipgasic2642
@filipgasic2642 Жыл бұрын
​@@kirillzakharov7336Absolutely stupid rule
@NotABirdd
@NotABirdd Жыл бұрын
​@@filipgasic2642imagine a dude shows up with his schlong out
@MgtowRubicon
@MgtowRubicon Жыл бұрын
The "touch move" rule includes a concession for the player to say unambiguously "adjust" and then touch a piece to adjust its position on the square.
@TheTakenName
@TheTakenName Жыл бұрын
I was in a tournament and technically saying "check" is unnecessary and there was someone that said it twice and he automatically lost forgetting about the talking rule because he was so use to it...and yes he was unrated!
@RosewoodBay
@RosewoodBay Жыл бұрын
Yeah, the video is wrong about what you can and can't say. It doesn't even mention that you CAN say "checkmate". I've encountered the situation when playing casually where people can get a little annoyed when I don't say "check". I always have to inform them that it is *your* duty to see that you are in check, no?
@Chess_Master60
@Chess_Master60 Жыл бұрын
The move writing thing makes sense, electronic boards are usually expensive and there can be up to 200+ boards a tournament
@DarkSkay
@DarkSkay Жыл бұрын
Moreover who wants to interrupt a chess tournament because there is a power outage, hardware or software problem with the boards? Sometimes electronics just make things more complicated than they need to be. Also signatures are a hassle and players would need to ask for a printout after the game.
@plagiats
@plagiats Жыл бұрын
Some inaccuracies : Most tournament won't issue a warning on a touch move or illegal move and forfeit the player. You can say "j'adoube" (or "I adjust") to reposition a piece, it's an exception to both the no-talking rule and the touch move rule. All electronics are banned from the venue, including for the public, to avoid signaling. Moves are written down to be analyzed the move list can be useful during play because there's so much memorisation going on. And while we totally have the technology to give a track every move, it's not feasible at scale to inform the players without introducing electronics which, again, are banned.
@Swysho
@Swysho Жыл бұрын
*claims 3 fold repetition when low on time in order to calculate the next move*
@chesscraze9329
@chesscraze9329 Жыл бұрын
If a 3-fold repetition claim is false, the player that didn't claim gets 2 minutes and unreasonable claim may fall under rule 11.5 which forbids from distracting opponent. Also a draw claim can be 'accepted by your opponent (similarly to a draw offer) even if the claim is false which could result in a draw in a winning position'
@lowenburg1989
@lowenburg1989 Жыл бұрын
Fun fact: if after 75 moves no Pawn move or a capture was played the arbiter has to stop the game even if non of the players wants a draw
@Hariprasadb7
@Hariprasadb7 Жыл бұрын
ok, but how can such situations occur unless both players are doing it intentionally. It is supposed to be a 1 week tournament not a 1 week match.
@lowenburg1989
@lowenburg1989 Жыл бұрын
@@Hariprasadb7 that happens when both players are stil trying to win but don´t manage to do it
@ComboMuster
@ComboMuster Жыл бұрын
I find that NONE of these chess rules and regulations are weird. They look weird for the uninitiated in chess but never heard of a chess pro player complaining about it. So this video is not useless (it clearly states the chess tournament rules) but is misleading.
@hazy1266
@hazy1266 Жыл бұрын
The notation still does a lot of sense. First, as was already mentioned - the technical infrastructure is expensive and most tournaments cannot afford it. But more important is a problem in connection with your last rule - the three move repetition. When one claims it and the repetition is not agreed on by both players, the arbiter and the players have to replay the whole game on a separate board using the reliable notation. Also: as the whole modern time modus (+30s bonus per move played) has been invented to make it possible for both players to notate till the very end of the game, the notation rule is very unlikely to ever be changed
@Мопс_001
@Мопс_001 Жыл бұрын
Not a nerd in chess, but notation by players still seems lame. They have cameras, also on my mind shouldn't be a whole lot of issues to assign "writers" to each board. But idk, in general it's a time of digital technologies, making players themselves write their moves seems to me the most narrow-minded thing ever (for big tournaments atleast) and it surely has a fix but absolutely nobody cares for the sake of traditions and basically "it's been like that for a long time, it works totally fine"
@hazy1266
@hazy1266 Жыл бұрын
@@Мопс_001 tbh it is more of a non-issue thing than a tradition thing. I got to know a lot of chess players so far and i can't remember a single one that complains about notation, at least not with modern time modes. also assigning writers, cameras or similar stuff is much more of an issue. Hardly anyone can provide the necessary manpower or infrastructure, If for huge tournaments with up to 1200 players or small local league matches. A board with connection to the internet costs a few hundred dollars and needs someone who checks the transmission. Also there are a lot of draws that are agreed on and rarely any checkmates in higher level tournaments, so it is not always "obvious" what even the result of the game is without the written confirmation of the players
@Мопс_001
@Мопс_001 Жыл бұрын
@@hazy1266 well, whatever then. I'd still heavily doubt they don't have the power to implement any of these, we live just too far in relatively high technology accessibility with all the scanners that they go through, cameras with online translations and other stuff that atleast one tournament would allow to (test) change the rules. Nobody could complain for lots of reasons, either they don't pay attention to that, or haven't tried playing without notation on a tournament etc etc, not necessarily because it's convenient but more of a 'get use to' thing. For the end of the game, there is always an option to simplify the process of utter bureacracy and make them sign only the result of their game. Again, as an ordinary person I see all this too suspicious to not have a relevant solution.
@johncochran8497
@johncochran8497 Жыл бұрын
@@hazy1266Assigning cameras is a problem? Take a quick look at your smart phone. Does it have the capability to create video? So it seems that all you need is to mount the camera somewhere it can see the board and you're golden. If it has a light or something else that might be distracting, well a small piece of tape takes care of that as well.
@hazy1266
@hazy1266 Жыл бұрын
@@johncochran8497 except it is not very reliable for hundreds of boards over 6-hour-games and phones are strictly forbidden because of cheating...
@Magnulus76
@Magnulus76 Жыл бұрын
I wonder if the no ritalin rule applies to other nootropics? I suspect the "single hand" rule is to prevent sleight-of-hand tricks, perhaps?
@rookmoves
@rookmoves Жыл бұрын
The single hand rule is also so that players dont just keep their non playing hand next to the clock at all times and click it so fast before even moving and running into confusions
@SGUnknownUmbra
@SGUnknownUmbra Жыл бұрын
Also you really have to train both your hands evenly because you won't always have the same coloured pieces in all the chess games in your life so you really need to train you hands to move at a consistant rate when players either colour pieces
@1c0nic_player
@1c0nic_player Жыл бұрын
@@SGUnknownUmbra not really, you can just use your right hand for either color. unless you're ambidextrous already, there's no need to train yourself to be able to use your left hand. if the clock is on your left, all that changes is you reach slightly further to press it, but that barely affects anything
@coachmcguirk6297
@coachmcguirk6297 Жыл бұрын
Ritalin and Adderall are banned across all esports played for money. There have been some pretty big cheating scandals, the counterstrike scene was inundated with performance enhancing drug use. For a while it was more common to see esports players on adde than it was to see baseball players on steroids in the 90s.
@radicalrick9587
@radicalrick9587 Жыл бұрын
*Exactly, like a pawn magically transformed into a Queen without reaching the other side first!?*
@AdmiralADD
@AdmiralADD Жыл бұрын
With regards to the talking, you neglected to mention the exception for “J'adoube” or “I adjust”, which is also an exception to the -touch move- rule. It is meant to allow you to correctly reorient pieces on the board that are, for some reason, not currently sitting correctly on their square(s).
@nicezombie8054
@nicezombie8054 Жыл бұрын
as a chess addict I knew all of them, even though I never played an official tournament.
@chesskw
@chesskw Жыл бұрын
At 5:00, you are right about the 5-minute rule (ironic it happens in your 5 minute mark of the video 😂) however if there is a 30 second increment per move, you must write the moves down even if you have less than a minute on the clock. If you dont, the arbiter can penalize the player
@aadyadubey379
@aadyadubey379 Жыл бұрын
Good observation 😀
@hydro5695
@hydro5695 Жыл бұрын
I find it hilarious that women realized they could wear more revealing clothing to distract their opponent to the point they had to make a rule about it. The world is a fascinating place.
@tapu_
@tapu_ Жыл бұрын
Hikaru doesn't need drugs, he will premove mate you no matter what
@lordcezar4657
@lordcezar4657 Жыл бұрын
writing your moves is standard. It helps players remember their opponents last move. It's common at low level games for players to forget their opponents last move in classical chess esp. if you leave the board for some reason. That's why cheating is easier when playing street chess than in chess clubs
@dono42
@dono42 Жыл бұрын
I enjoy playing chess with friends, but honestly hearing about many of these rules just makes me less interested in playing chess competitively.
@kenspencer9895
@kenspencer9895 Жыл бұрын
Having played tournament chess back in the day, I knew almost all of the rules, just not the ones dealing with female players. The 'touch move' rule wasn't fully explained, as touching an opponent's playing piece (when it is your move) means you have to capture it if you legally can.
@Hazikuros
@Hazikuros Жыл бұрын
Hi, I believe that they still require players to write down their moves manually on a scoresheet in order to be able to claim a 50 move draw or a threefold repetition, among many other reasons.
@chesskw
@chesskw Жыл бұрын
If the arbiter is watching the blitz/rapid game, than its his responsibility to ensure if repetition occurs
@manonit
@manonit Жыл бұрын
@@chesskw one of the players has to claim the repetition, otherwise the arbiter wont step in and intervene. And the manual notations help the players keep track of repetitions
@mpeterll
@mpeterll Жыл бұрын
You described an illegal method of pawn promotion. There was a case a couple of years ago when a game was forfeited because he placed a queen on the board and then removed the pawn from the 7th rank. The arbiter ruled that the pawn must touch the last square before a promotion piece can replace it. Also, the 3-fold repetition rule also requires that it be the same player to move each time. If the position is repeated but it's the other player to move, it doesn't count.
@josepherhardt164
@josepherhardt164 Жыл бұрын
Also, the move permissions must be the same for all three occurrences. E.g., if in the first instance an en passant or castling situation is available but not in occurrences two and three, then it's not a threefold repetition yet. (At least, so I've read.)
@mpeterll
@mpeterll Жыл бұрын
@@josepherhardt164 I did not know that.
@andreassl9860
@andreassl9860 Жыл бұрын
In that case the arbiter made a mistake. Paragraph 4.6.1 of the Fide rules states "the pawn does not have to be placed on the square of arrival."
@fifoboy1352
@fifoboy1352 Жыл бұрын
1:10 today i was on a chess tournament and my opponents phone rang and he got disqualified
@flippert0
@flippert0 7 ай бұрын
Some addenda to three-fold-repetition: it not only has to be the same position, the same player has to move and the same castling(!) rights have to be in place. In Karpov-Miles 1986 Karpov claimed draw due to 3fold and Miles agreed. But actually, black had lost the right to castle in 2nd and 3rd repeition. In Spassky-Fischer 1972, 20th game, Spassky agreed to draw due to 3fold, when in fact, 3rd repetition was not the same player to move. There is also a 5-fold-repetition, where the arbiter _must_ claim a draw if he detects it.
@Michelt007
@Michelt007 2 ай бұрын
Very true. Also, if there was a potential to do an en passant capture in the first position, it does not count for a three-fold. Fun fact: which exact piece occupies a square does not matter, so if the Queen's rook was on d1 and the King's rook on e1, then they exchange their squares, it counts for the repetition!
@flippert0
@flippert0 7 ай бұрын
Writing down moves makes sense, in so far that electronic boards are quite expensive.
@redkite121
@redkite121 Жыл бұрын
Few corrections You can say j'adobe to adjust a piece without moving it. But you wouldn't say check or checkmate as it's considered disrespectful
@rookmoves
@rookmoves Жыл бұрын
Thats true, Jadoube is french for "I adjust" Saying check may be disrespectful, but it is completely legal
@sexygeek8996
@sexygeek8996 Жыл бұрын
How about saying "Checkmate! You Lose! Ha! Ha! Ha!"?
@aphztic
@aphztic Жыл бұрын
@@sexygeek8996 that's trash talk and may be disrespectful to the opponent so still considered talk i guess
@Censeo
@Censeo Жыл бұрын
It would be even more disrespect to say checkmate when adjusting a piece
@kirillzakharov7336
@kirillzakharov7336 Жыл бұрын
there is another reason, too. If you do say that, you are just making it easier for them. You may be able to make them waste time, and if they make an illegal move, you get two extra minutes. Use psychology to your advantage. Perfectly legal. Cruel, but legal nonetheless.
@ostentatious16
@ostentatious16 Жыл бұрын
reason why you use same hand to press clock is because if you use two hands you may press too early and have a winning time
@Ben-fp2yc
@Ben-fp2yc Жыл бұрын
they are going to ban touching pieces next because its unfair to people with no hands next
@krone5
@krone5 Жыл бұрын
@@Ben-fp2yc you could get the tournament to have a co player that would do your moves, but most players have hands
@_Dragon_..
@_Dragon_.. Жыл бұрын
Really Sherlock??
@ostentatious16
@ostentatious16 Жыл бұрын
@@_Dragon_.. Why are you gae?
@kshgarg147
@kshgarg147 Жыл бұрын
all the rules except writing down your moves make perfect sense!
@Dorob96
@Dorob96 Жыл бұрын
it states accidentally touched pieces don't have to move if it is clear that it was unintentionally.
@DidierPilon
@DidierPilon Жыл бұрын
“F-eye-dee rated games” 😂😂😂
@SarcBlade
@SarcBlade Жыл бұрын
“Drug ban” Me: “What drug!?! Fricking MENTATS?!?!”
@fei-hungwong9034
@fei-hungwong9034 Жыл бұрын
Witting your moves. I think that one can be overturned if people start challenging it. However the reason the rule exists is due to conflict resolution. In the case where such technology doesn’t exist and the game isn’t being monitored sheets are necessary. What I think the rule should instead be is: The game moves must be documented in some way. If recorded or electronically tracked then writing should not be necessary. But a formal sheet should be made from the these tracking methods for final submission.
@Censeo
@Censeo Жыл бұрын
I think two Bishops and King vs lone King can be so poorly placed that it takes 31 moves with perfect play to checkmate your opponent. Even grandmasters have got the moves wrong and it became a draw after 50 moves.
@victorkao1472
@victorkao1472 Жыл бұрын
Probably not if they aren’t in time trouble. Knight + bishop is a harder mate
@Censeo
@Censeo Жыл бұрын
@@victorkao1472 not according to Stockfish, but maybe some humans find it more difficult
@radicalrick9587
@radicalrick9587 Жыл бұрын
*The trick is to force the King into the corner, but it can be done in less that 50 moves no problem.*
@victorkao1472
@victorkao1472 Жыл бұрын
@@Censeo that's because bishops mate are straight forward. Half of the moves can be pre-moved. Knight + bishops can't be pre-moved as easily
@MikkoRantalainen
@MikkoRantalainen Жыл бұрын
@@victorkao1472 If I remember correctly, knight+bishop vs a lone king may require minimum of 31 moves with perfect play on both sides for some starting positions. As a result if you make one wrong move in the sequence after doing at least 20 moves, you may end up with a draw because you don't have enough time to retry the sequence. And the strategy for the lone king is really easy: always try to go nearest corner with opposite color to the bishop so the mistake can only be done by the player that is trying to win.
@radicalrick9587
@radicalrick9587 Жыл бұрын
*Wow! I pride myself in knowing everything, especially when it comes to chess, in castling, I did not know that you're supposed to touch the King first! I've read a zillions books and never have any chess author ever mention that fact! And a lot of these books are supposed to be teaching you about Chess!*
@EdKolis
@EdKolis Жыл бұрын
It makes sense though, because if you touch the rook first then your opponent might think you're just moving the rook, and play their own move before you're finished. Moving the king two squares is an obvious sign that you're castling, though.
@Magnulus76
@Magnulus76 Жыл бұрын
@@EdKolis That's new to me. I thought that only happened in computer chess. Or maybe I am misunderstanding something. I learned that you move the rook first, growing up in the 80's. Under the USCF rules, you can touch the rook first without penalty.
@drezhb
@drezhb Жыл бұрын
​@@Magnulus76 "King moves 2 squares, then rook swings over" is how I learned it
@NotBamOrBing
@NotBamOrBing Жыл бұрын
Makes sense, castling is a king move
@alonecoder600
@alonecoder600 Жыл бұрын
@@EdKolisthe opponent cannot move before you press the button. Touch-move rule was invented for park gaming and does not have sense in tornaments. Maybe it will be removed sometime. There is another rule not mentioned in the video: when you release a piece, you cannot change your move. Also from park gaming.
@SweGoat
@SweGoat Жыл бұрын
If that's a human, that man has the most AI sounding voice I've ever heard
@KevinChantal
@KevinChantal Жыл бұрын
Interesting video but I have a question: Is starring on your opponent intensively and maybe with funny face expressions also not allowed?
@Someone-tn8ur
@Someone-tn8ur Жыл бұрын
I think you could call over an arbiter if someone is behaving in an unsportsmanlike manner, but honestly after the initial handshake, I don't know what my opponent looks like as I'm hyperfocused on the board.
@rookmoves
@rookmoves Жыл бұрын
Im not sure if its illegal as much as it is unsportsmanlike and disrespectful, can be considered as a distraction tho
@onniruusunen9444
@onniruusunen9444 Жыл бұрын
Staring no. Face expression could be considered distracting the opponent
@sexygeek8996
@sexygeek8996 Жыл бұрын
That might become in issue if I had a female opponent who violated the rule about revealing clothing.
@mikmop
@mikmop 4 ай бұрын
If there's no penalty for getting the arbiter to check an alleged threefold repetition, what's to stop you falsely calling one just so you can stall and get more time when you're running down on the clock.
@Michelt007
@Michelt007 2 ай бұрын
There are penalties for wrong claims, you lose time or your opponent get more time on the clock (cannot remember which one it is...). This should have been said in that video.
@vladpetre5674
@vladpetre5674 Жыл бұрын
Wow, so many of those are wrong! It is not a double hand move to press the clock with the other hand, it is just a warning and arbiter decision for penalty. You do not have to pick piece when promoting a pawn with the same hand from off-board, you just have to place it on the board with the same hand. You do have to write moves in the last 5 minutes if there's an increment of at least 30 seconds. Your opponent does get additional time after an incorrect 3 times repetition or 50 move claim. Also, after 50 moves with no capture or pawn move the game is NOT automatically called a draw, it has to be claimed. After 75 such moves arbiter calls a draw (similarly for 5 fold repetition). Touch move does not apply to accidental contact with pieces, there has to be clear intention (like picking up the piece, for example). Illegal moves are treated VERY different in rapid & blitz: in classical game is returned to the last legal position before the 1st illegal move, in rapid or blitz if an illegal move is not claimed it will stand on the board.
@jort93z
@jort93z Жыл бұрын
Was about to type something like this.
@TheRadicalCentrist.1776
@TheRadicalCentrist.1776 Жыл бұрын
And you cannot combine the low-cut shirt rule with the one-touch rule. It's zero touches for that one...at least until after the tournament. :)
@chessic4
@chessic4 Жыл бұрын
It is a bit of an insult to say, “Check.” Just keep it to “Adjust” or “Draw?” The latter being offered after you make your move.
@davidp.7620
@davidp.7620 Жыл бұрын
There is indeed a penalty for a wrong threefold repetition claim. Your opponent wull be given extra time
@blaizejosh
@blaizejosh 11 ай бұрын
In a chess tournament game: Is colored chess legal? Here is the situation: The white moves first rule. The chess set you're playing with doesn't have white or black chessmen pieces. The chess set contains polka dot pink chessmen pieces and glittered purple chessmen pieces. Out of pink or purple, who would move first? Is this legal for a chess tournament game? What would be the rules for this kind of situation in a chess tournament game?
@austinorsomeonealt
@austinorsomeonealt Жыл бұрын
I like how u put Hans when u stated the electronic device one
@rosiefay7283
@rosiefay7283 Жыл бұрын
0:42 Citation needed for "female players must wear skirts". Perhaps you mean "female players may not wear skirts that are shorter..."?
@natvanrooyen
@natvanrooyen Жыл бұрын
Does the no methylphenidate apply if it’s prescribed for medical reasons? Just interested to know
@JohnSmith-zw8vp
@JohnSmith-zw8vp Жыл бұрын
0:02 -- Board not set up correctly! White square should be in bottom right corner!
@coachmcguirk6297
@coachmcguirk6297 Жыл бұрын
Does the touch rule apply if the peice is not on the board? Say you're going to promote and you touch the 2nd (extra) queen that is off the board but then realize underpromoting is better, can you grab the knight if the queen never went on the board?
@Schiwi3tc
@Schiwi3tc Жыл бұрын
The Decision is up to Arbiter. If you’re an honest player and know that it just an accident on touching the piece with elbow or clothing. The Arbiter can decide that it’s just an accident and not considered touch move. Also to answer your question the pieces outside of the board is never be considered touch move
@Schiwi3tc
@Schiwi3tc Жыл бұрын
Also, always say “excuse me” if you want to rearrange or placed the pieces properly. Best course is to make sure that the Arbiter saw and hear that you are trying to rearrange the pieces to not be considered touch move
@spark5010
@spark5010 Жыл бұрын
no if u dont place the 2nd Queen on the Board then its not an issue, u can see many top players playing with Queens or bishops while thinking
@lennartbjorksten707
@lennartbjorksten707 Жыл бұрын
USCF master and tournament director here. This video is incorrect on several points, most notably on the touch-move rule: accidental touches do not count. And drug testing? I've played in state championships and major national tournaments, and nobody ever got drug tested. BTW, FIDE is pronounced "Fee-Day", not "Fie-Dee".
@shinymetalvids
@shinymetalvids Жыл бұрын
Boards can glitch and miss read moves. The only way to know what was really played is to write it down and compare what both players wrote down
@eiavops4576
@eiavops4576 Жыл бұрын
Computers wont mess up if you tell them exactly what to do, humans on the other hand
@shinymetalvids
@shinymetalvids Жыл бұрын
@@eiavops4576 computers crash, glitch, breakdown and freeze up all the time. The hardware on the DGT boards and clocks can have some sort of error in most tournaments, regarding moves. Especially at higher speeds of play. (Bonus point, humans design and build computers, they also write the code computers run on. Show me perfect humans manufacturing perfect hardware and writing perfect code and we’ll see if that computer has a chance at being perfect).
@janmejaybarve7018
@janmejaybarve7018 Жыл бұрын
Suppose it is a king and pawn vs king, pawn and 2 knights endgame and a situation arises where the absolute board position is supposedly repeated thrice but with the king's knight and queen's knight interchaged their position in one of the position. Does this still count as repetition? Technically different knights have occupied those squares.
@jukkauh
@jukkauh Жыл бұрын
Uhhh... Methylphenidate is *Ritalin*. Modafinil is a rather different drug entirely. They are both banned.
@drziggyabdelmalak1439
@drziggyabdelmalak1439 Жыл бұрын
You are incorrect - a King and Pawn versus a King endgame CAN be won!
@DarthRane113
@DarthRane113 Жыл бұрын
I learned chess players can't handle mind games 😂
@drziggyabdelmalak1439
@drziggyabdelmalak1439 Жыл бұрын
Hahaha! That's so funny. You're talking about chess rules and one of the first thing you show [at 0:03] is a chess board set up incorrectly!!!
@DjVortex-w
@DjVortex-w Жыл бұрын
Honestly, I can't really understand why some people would oppose dress codes in such events as chess tournaments. We are not machines. We are not robots. We are humans, and we have all kinds of instincts and attractions, and some of the strongest instinctual attractions we have relates to other people. We may be instinctively attracted to them, or repulsed by them. Modesty standards exist for a reason and are not completely arbitrary (no matter how much some people would like to claim they are). I would not want to play against someone wearing nothing but a thong (and the reason why will depend on the sex of the person in question, but either way that's inconsequential). When participating in such a tournament, where distracting your opponent is rightly considered a bad thing, it's only logical to follow some modesty rules that have been demonstrated to be effective in causing as little distraction to other people as possible. It only makes sense.
@Crockbucks
@Crockbucks Жыл бұрын
5:05 i believe they still need to write down theyre moves because the Boards Sometimes breake so that they dont record the moves properly
@theinacircleoftheancientpu492
@theinacircleoftheancientpu492 Жыл бұрын
It's not weird to not allow cleavage. You are literally sitting across from the person, staring at a board, and guaranteed being able to glance up a little and see cleavage at any time has reasonable possibility to be unnecessarily distracting. I equally would forbid players from playing shirtless, or with obviously distracting colour schemes for the same reason. As long as we aren't excessively regulating dresscode, and are instead focusing on creating a reasonably fair environment in which to compete there shouldn't be major issues...barring idiotic ones.
@Dorob96
@Dorob96 Жыл бұрын
The opponent can only claim a wrong move after the player pressed the clock. Before that it is not an illegal move.
@КостяБондарь-ф6е
@КостяБондарь-ф6е Жыл бұрын
If you have less than 5 min left on the clock, but there is 30 sec or more increament per move, you still must to write down moves
@saltare5904
@saltare5904 Жыл бұрын
No
@КостяБондарь-ф6е
@КостяБондарь-ф6е Жыл бұрын
Fide rules. 8.4. Stop lying and just open the google
@mrawesomeDK
@mrawesomeDK Жыл бұрын
How to make chess unnecessarily complicated.
@FiendishBeret
@FiendishBeret Жыл бұрын
Honestly I quite like writing down moves lol
@garypierce7380
@garypierce7380 Жыл бұрын
Chess rules sound boring and many of them seem petty and unnecessary. I bet they keep potential players from wanting to participate.
@eiavops4576
@eiavops4576 Жыл бұрын
Can you name a single rule here thats unnecessary?
@penguinvic9892
@penguinvic9892 Жыл бұрын
TOUCH PIECE DOES NOT APPLY TO DEAD PIECES (!?) It happened in a junior chess teams’ tournament between the top two sides in the deciding game some years ago. Player A moves their pawn to the c8 square. Takes off the pawn and reaches for a Queen. Had they put the Queen on the board and taken their hand away, it would be stalemate. They hover over the c8 square checking out the possibilities. Their opponent claimed a draw under the touch piece rule. Match ends in pandemonium. One side claims the piece touched the square, the other side said it didn’t. The umpire ruled there was no such thing as “touch square rule” and that pieces and pawns not actually in play were “dead” and not subject to the “touch piece rule”. I’m not sure how this would play out today, but the player claiming the draw should have had the patience to wait until their opponent took the hand off the Queen, after it had been placed on the c8 square. The game in question was awarded to the player who claimed they were going to make an under promotion by making the pawn a Rook.
@josepherhardt164
@josepherhardt164 Жыл бұрын
This is the kind of situation when the arbiter takes out his flask for a wee nip.
@penguinvic9892
@penguinvic9892 Жыл бұрын
@@josepherhardt164 Hee hee, you’re probably correct. What was annoying is that these two junior teams comprised well-trained players, rated between 1300-1800 in real terms, who should have known better. You find that with junior players, organisers have to come up with an array of additional rules not thought of at the F.I.D.E. international rule level. And that’s before students come up with the most amazing ways to bamboozle their opponents, either through ignorance or design. At one tournament we entered a foreign student who didn’t speak a word of English but we thought we had trained her up enough to play. First game, she moves her Queen to the end of the board, then changes it into a pawn. We all said nothing as her opponent looked up confused. This now-pawn started moving back down the board a square at a time. Fortunately, its got captured before it could be promoted back to a Queen (or before any member of the audience had a fit of the giggles).
@josepherhardt164
@josepherhardt164 Жыл бұрын
@@penguinvic9892 Good grief. I wanna see the notation for that game. Qd8/p ???
@purpledevilr7463
@purpledevilr7463 Жыл бұрын
2:43 I don’t think they should bother calling an arbiter if they move another piece while in check. Just take the king.
@Ximonius
@Ximonius 3 ай бұрын
That's also illegal, if you do that you will be disqualified
@purpledevilr7463
@purpledevilr7463 3 ай бұрын
@@Ximonius the video literally explained that. I am precisely saying that should not be the case.
@Ximonius
@Ximonius 3 ай бұрын
@@purpledevilr7463 oh
@arthurbraden4102
@arthurbraden4102 Жыл бұрын
These are "suggestively" FIDE rules, not USCF (although there is some overlap) ... "but" remember that the rules are interpreted by the FIDE Arbiter. If the Arbiter(s) misinterpret(s) the FIDE Rule then you may get stuck with the ruling, even if they are wrong and you are right! Be nice to the Arbiter! :) In case you do not know this, the Rules are "more complicated" than those shown in the Rule Book as Arbiters and USCF Tournament Directors hold meetings behind the scenes to determine "how" a Rule is interpreted! If you are not sure of how a Rule is interpreted then "ask" them! :)
@Slothyi
@Slothyi Жыл бұрын
Bro, methylphenidate is my adhd medicatio, how the fuck do you expect me to play chess when I get distracted by a fly that just landed on my arm
@reineh3477
@reineh3477 5 ай бұрын
As far as I understand: If you have prescription you just fill out a form and submit to the tournament directors.
@TripPy_Poly
@TripPy_Poly Жыл бұрын
Can’t believe i am taking chess enhancing pills on a daily basis
@itchykami
@itchykami Жыл бұрын
the 50 moves rule has been extended, I think it's 100 now? Also saying 'check' in a high-level tournament is considered very bad manners.
@awm8158
@awm8158 Жыл бұрын
methylphenidate??? that´s what I´ve been missing from my game?!?! Ohhhh, thank you very much, sir :D
@NStripleseven
@NStripleseven Жыл бұрын
Like 2 or 3 of those are just normal chess rules, not even tournament-specific
@AdamStephenson-fm5zm
@AdamStephenson-fm5zm Жыл бұрын
a king and a pawn vs. a king is still winnable bro. You would need to promote but it could still be won
@meow-chan-likes-to-purr-1324
@meow-chan-likes-to-purr-1324 Жыл бұрын
if im not wrong, if you touched an opponent piece, you must capture it if you can
@mekkler
@mekkler Жыл бұрын
The 'cleavage' rule does not apply to plumbers who play chess.
@Dorob96
@Dorob96 Жыл бұрын
i am a currently taking a chess arbiter course. We learned pressing the clock with the wrong hand is not a wrong move and doesn't fall under the category 2nd time instant loss. The arbiter should give a reasonable penalty, which could be loss of the game, time penalty, time bonus for the opponent or a warning. In standard practice the 2min + game loss for 2nd time is probably accepted by most players but a nitpicky player could appeal to the head judge/ tournament commity.
@josepherhardt164
@josepherhardt164 Жыл бұрын
Okay, but can the _arbiter_ wear a low-cut dress???
@larryd9577
@larryd9577 8 ай бұрын
What about the "no fun"-rule?
@magentaballthepolandball5130
@magentaballthepolandball5130 Жыл бұрын
"*weird* chess rules" "cheating is not allowed"
@Kirito_wr
@Kirito_wr Жыл бұрын
As a clublevel chess player the double hand rule is the dumbest rule ever
@noone-zg6ic
@noone-zg6ic 11 ай бұрын
what if i touched the rook at the starting of a match? since the game has just began it has no possible ways to move so is it than legal to move some other piece?
@vallekoen9426
@vallekoen9426 Жыл бұрын
there is something worse than dropping a bag of skittles, and it is having a bad coughing fit in the middle of a packed tournament, cuz either u just cough away disturbing everyone, or try to make your way out of the play area every 5min really disturbing the closest tables.
@fei-hungwong9034
@fei-hungwong9034 Жыл бұрын
The double hand rule is something we implement with friends too.
@raylopez99
@raylopez99 Жыл бұрын
But there's not rule for excessive staring, for repeatedly offering a draw even when losing, or for in blitz repeatedly having a three-fold repetition but since no clock stoppage, the players must play on? Sounds unfair.
@trentthen642
@trentthen642 Жыл бұрын
The only chess video that will talk about boobs
@cabalgandocontradicciones8303
@cabalgandocontradicciones8303 Жыл бұрын
I agree with the decorum in chess games. For both man and women.
@andrewbloom7694
@andrewbloom7694 Жыл бұрын
Ritalin and Modafinil are not the same thing fyi, Modafinil is the chemical name for Provigil. related beyond both being CNS stimulants. Ritalin is a Phenethylamine like amphetamines or psuedoephedrine. Modafinil is it's own seperate thing, chemically and pharmacologically. Actually Ive taken both, as well as adderall (for RA fatigue, not for fun lol) and still do take provigil, and the best comparisons I can think of are that Ritalen feels like Pseudofed or like a quarter dose of adderall, makes you really manic for like a couple hours than you crash hard, and Provigil is like extended release caffiene. Doesn't make you manic, just makes you energised for about 10 hrs, and you do "crash" a little bit but not too bad. I wasn't surprised Ritalin is banned, but I actually was a little bit about Modafinil. But I suppose when I take it it just brings my energy up to what a normal person would feel regularly. I don't know what it would feel like/do if you were already normal and took it
@GH-oi2jf
@GH-oi2jf 8 ай бұрын
At 5:20, the board is oriented sideways! Also at 5:26!
@stevefurrier9932
@stevefurrier9932 Жыл бұрын
The writing down moves could be useful.Imagine a loss of electricity for a second in a stormy day,and every data is lost
@daniellefreeman6291
@daniellefreeman6291 10 ай бұрын
In regards of the first rule what happens if the person has a learn disability?
@TakeoFR
@TakeoFR Жыл бұрын
The dress code is pretty much the same for men in that regard, except that it doesn't even allow skirts for them. It should be made gender neutral, but women are definitely not being discriminated.
@superflyslay9740
@superflyslay9740 Жыл бұрын
cuz men dont wear skirts...
@JaidynGX
@JaidynGX Жыл бұрын
​@@superflyslay9740 thats sexist
@superflyslay9740
@superflyslay9740 Жыл бұрын
@@JaidynGX no it isn’t it’s reality
@TakeoFR
@TakeoFR Жыл бұрын
@@superflyslay9740 Scott's do
@valiantwarrior1988
@valiantwarrior1988 Жыл бұрын
gender neutral? Na uh, no real man wears skirts unless its a traditional wear. Chess has not been affected by those stupid trans stuff yet which Im glad about.
@ymaxey
@ymaxey Жыл бұрын
The uh no talking rule, u can’t say check in game
@DjVortex-w
@DjVortex-w Жыл бұрын
You didn't mention that you can't castle using two hands. You also didn't mention the much less-known 75-move rule.
@shashankprashar6604
@shashankprashar6604 Жыл бұрын
You are telling me the rule at 0:57 is to avoid distraction.......man literally Magnus or hikaru can drink a litre of alcohol and still not be distracted if you place a chess board in front of them 🤣
@rookmoves
@rookmoves Жыл бұрын
Those are exceptions 😂
@stoyantodorov2133
@stoyantodorov2133 Жыл бұрын
I lost a game against my crush when I was a young teen. It didn't help that she was dressed in a very provocative way. You might say that it was just some random school tournament so there weren't really any stakes but the rule makes sense. Not everyone is a GM who can play without looking at the board, let alone his/her opponent.
@shashankprashar6604
@shashankprashar6604 Жыл бұрын
Usually happens... sometimes it's not even the distraction, it sometimes is just the induced nervousness and not being in the same usual mindset as you would be.
@shashankprashar6604
@shashankprashar6604 Жыл бұрын
Also I'm not against such rules at all, FIDE has some ridiculous dress codes even for men, the point I think most sport have a dress code and so does chess
@spugelo359
@spugelo359 Жыл бұрын
@@stoyantodorov2133 Shouldn't be too hard for full grown adults to just not stare. Sure whatever, take a glance and leave it at that and just focus on the game. I'd say a person who gets distracted that easily isn't really suitable to play the game anyway. Makes more sense for horny teens though.
@MountainHawkPYL
@MountainHawkPYL Жыл бұрын
Tournament Scrabble has a similar set of restrictions.
@MrSirBoastAlot
@MrSirBoastAlot Жыл бұрын
It is to keep the opponent not distracted
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