How To PUNISH Early Queen Attacks

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@wyattmaniscalco3090
@wyattmaniscalco3090 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I’m new to chess and I never know what to do against those early queen attacks, so this helped me a lot.
@-_deploy_-
@-_deploy_- 2 жыл бұрын
@BradynLee09 it is not stupid if you know exactly what you are doing and have infinite backup plans
@shschesschamp
@shschesschamp 2 жыл бұрын
@BradynLee09 Its a good opening for bullet chess.
@rifwann
@rifwann 2 жыл бұрын
1k and yeah, this early queen alays caught me.
@frogz608
@frogz608 Жыл бұрын
@@-_deploy_- there's a reason kasparov said that late queen activation is better, a decent player can defend perfectly
@-_deploy_-
@-_deploy_- Жыл бұрын
@@frogz608 whatever kasparov says
@unstabledefusion
@unstabledefusion Жыл бұрын
I’m a complete beginner who began playing a couple days ago. I didn’t expect myself to need to study how to play chess for hours on end 😂
@mahmed2401
@mahmed2401 Жыл бұрын
I'm also beginner wanna play with me?
@Pierrace
@Pierrace Жыл бұрын
I started 3 days ago I’m definitely getting better
@michaeltagor4238
@michaeltagor4238 Жыл бұрын
Yup, that's the beauty of chess, it's a simple game but if you want to REALLY play all of a sudden you have years of learning in front of you, good luck and have fun!
@Beat_Vibes_
@Beat_Vibes_ Жыл бұрын
@@Pierraceme too
@Viper_0930
@Viper_0930 Жыл бұрын
Addicting isn't it?
@Maidbots
@Maidbots Жыл бұрын
Every time they do this I feel slightly insulted
@btlarkin
@btlarkin 9 ай бұрын
Nelson, you do a nice job of keeping the narrative simple and easy to follow. Avoiding too many parenthetical expressions and tangents that some of the experts have in their tutorials. Well done.
@ChessVibesOfficial
@ChessVibesOfficial 9 ай бұрын
Thanks a lot, Brad!
@BobChess
@BobChess 2 жыл бұрын
After watch this video, It is time to beat my friend who play scholar's mate.
@adriangardon873
@adriangardon873 2 жыл бұрын
This helped me so much
@joinfortherapy6470
@joinfortherapy6470 2 жыл бұрын
Isn't it called wayward Queen opening
@Alter-Ego545
@Alter-Ego545 2 жыл бұрын
@@joinfortherapy6470 That’s the move QH5 by itself, scholar’s mate is a continuation from the queen move. It’s this really basic mate in 4 moves for white but it’s quite easy to avoid even for beginners
@gilbertsambajon3074
@gilbertsambajon3074 2 жыл бұрын
Hahahah yes I love how excited you are when trying new things or trick just like me
@lalegende2746
@lalegende2746 2 жыл бұрын
I can’t even begin to tell you how many times people tried the Scholar’s mate on me today. Punished them every single time
@XENabcdef
@XENabcdef Жыл бұрын
7:03 you can play knight f5 taking/trading the opponents queen, taking assuming they move the king in check and trading if they block the check with the queen
@Cupix_
@Cupix_ Жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same
@amoycadaverine21
@amoycadaverine21 2 жыл бұрын
one thing to note about early queen attacks are its position and your pieces position. yeah the queen looks scary, but always remember the queen cant mate by itself. it always needs at least one piece to deliver a mate. you gotta check all the squares on which the queen can attack you and defend properly. while you're driving the queen away (because enemy is looking for potential mate) you found yourself developing pieces more and they just keep on moving the same piece again and again achieving nothing.
@lupsik1
@lupsik1 2 жыл бұрын
Technically it can mate alone, where even a rook couldnt. I said „technically” to underline that it doesnt matter, and you wrote everything perfectly and not to be snarky.
@shanginadildo
@shanginadildo 2 жыл бұрын
@@lupsik1 a rook can also mate in its own
@lupsik1
@lupsik1 2 жыл бұрын
@@shanginadildo I meant that it can mate where a rook cant. Lika a king behind a single pawn.
@Vykk
@Vykk Жыл бұрын
the one piece is real
@s.s7337
@s.s7337 Жыл бұрын
@@lupsik1 A bishop and a knight can mate on their own too given the right circumstances.
@user-mq1ng6sj7b
@user-mq1ng6sj7b 2 жыл бұрын
The wayward queen, aka the freelo gambit. I call it that because if it succeeds it's basically an instant win. But if it fails then it's basically an instant loss
@Saul_Goodman497
@Saul_Goodman497 Жыл бұрын
It's not an instant loss
@lucintiasangma1079
@lucintiasangma1079 Жыл бұрын
@@Saul_Goodman497 most people know how to tackle the scholars mate.. and some people do not know what to do after the scholars mate, so it's a loss to the opponent who used the scholars mate trap..
@danneltheflannel
@danneltheflannel Жыл бұрын
It's decent for blitz or bullet
@will2brown50
@will2brown50 Жыл бұрын
@@danneltheflannel no it definitely is not.
@satgurs
@satgurs Жыл бұрын
@@danneltheflannel What's your rating?
@jrodgers211
@jrodgers211 Жыл бұрын
I love when an opponent uses wayward queen. I get a fast development and they end up losing their queen with no development. Usually ends in a rage quit
@michalrehacek3462
@michalrehacek3462 Жыл бұрын
I reached 2000 on lichess using wayward queen attack... don't underestimate the opening too much.
@MarkIsTiredAlways
@MarkIsTiredAlways Жыл бұрын
​@@michalrehacek3462wow lichess players probably play like 100 rated players
@Poatanmafia
@Poatanmafia Жыл бұрын
​@@michalrehacek3462on lichess of course
@C.Ezra.M
@C.Ezra.M Жыл бұрын
At 7:02, I think Nf5+ is also a good move. White's king is in a discovered check, and their queen is under attack as well
@Anthony_LaVigna
@Anthony_LaVigna Жыл бұрын
then theyd play Qd2, then youd have to move your knight out of the way of the attack from the pawn on e4, Nd4 gives up the knight, Nd6 causes a fork on the knights from the pawn, and anything else opens black up to a potential queen trade that prevents castling
@quasiZote
@quasiZote Жыл бұрын
​​​​@@Anthony_LaVigna what about Nxe4 and after Qxd8+ simply Bxd8. the knight then threatens a fork on f2 resulting in your opponent Ke1. you're still able to longcastle and have more pieces developped. 1 pawn down at the cost of a better position. edit: to be clear; 1. e4 e5 2. Qh5 Nf6 3. Qxe5+ Be7 4. d3 Nc6 5. Qg3 Nd4 6. Qxg7 Rg8 7. Qh6 d5 8. Kd1 dxe4 9. dxe4 Nf5+ 10. Qd2 Nxe4 11. Qxd8+ Bxd8 12. Ke1
@NoticeDesign
@NoticeDesign Жыл бұрын
They just move queen D2 and you've got a queen exchange. I like B3 better for the discovered check and you get the rook.
@TheAnimal191
@TheAnimal191 Жыл бұрын
Learning to deal with early queen attacks from low level players really allowed me to flourish in the game. Your video was a crucial part of my learning to combat them and I wanted to credit and thank you.
@RGC_animation
@RGC_animation Жыл бұрын
The Wayward Queen attack seems like a great opening, until you're no longer 400 rated.
@paidopedro1600
@paidopedro1600 Жыл бұрын
I'm 400 and thought the queen attack was good lol
@38KeviN91
@38KeviN91 Жыл бұрын
Yeah once you hit +425-450 it’s over played and easily countered
@shineed9747
@shineed9747 Жыл бұрын
Retarded people can play better than 400 rated players
@ARCbirdman
@ARCbirdman Жыл бұрын
Bro. I'm 1100 and it still regularly works 💀
@xmathmanx
@xmathmanx Жыл бұрын
​@@ARCbirdmanthis is the actual case, why must nerds exaggerate these things?
@andrewpark78
@andrewpark78 2 жыл бұрын
The best piece of advice I got when I was new was just “look at every piece the queen attacks”. Incredibly obvious in theory, but just taking an extra second to be sure I’m not moving a key defender away from a piece meant queen attacks were suddenly easy to beat instead of terrifying
@user-rc1hn
@user-rc1hn Жыл бұрын
4:34 Also in this situation, there is a fork with knight. (Knight X C2, that move forks Queen and Rook same time. It forces the King to move, because they can't eat the knight in any way, this way you both get a free queen and your opponent loses the right to castling.)
@kzkaa.
@kzkaa. Жыл бұрын
If your king isn't in check, then this would be a nice tactic.
@dagmawi.tsegaye
@dagmawi.tsegaye Жыл бұрын
i was thinking that myself. that would've been spectacular.
@dagmawi.tsegaye
@dagmawi.tsegaye Жыл бұрын
it wasn't though.
@viytalic9049
@viytalic9049 Жыл бұрын
Even if you was in check, you'd eat the queen and be gobbled up by a pawn before you could even get the rook. I'm confused on why they'd have to move the king if the knight was at C2 as it can't reach E1
@meltedspaceogd123
@meltedspaceogd123 Жыл бұрын
It's called capture or take, not "eat"
@edl5731
@edl5731 2 жыл бұрын
On concept #3, you missed the best move, which was also the topic of your video from two days ago. Move the knight attacking the queen results in a discovered check and the knight is blocking the queen instead of checking with the bishop.
@matthewm5066
@matthewm5066 2 жыл бұрын
They can block with the queen though
@liamlynch9460
@liamlynch9460 2 жыл бұрын
The queen can just come back and block the check, so there is no threat on their queen though
@b-reyer8252
@b-reyer8252 2 жыл бұрын
@@Mileschad Yeah but you're down 2 pawns and 99% of the time it isn't a good idea to trade queens when you have a more active and attacking position
@Chris-87
@Chris-87 2 жыл бұрын
I like how people think they know more than masters lol. That's not a great move because white plays Qd2 and you lose a lot of your attack. Bg4 is absolutely brutal. If Ke1, black plays Nxc2++ (mate). If Kd2, then black plays Nf5+, with the discovery now, white can't block with the queen. If white blocks the check with f3, Nf3, Ne2, or Bd2, then black captures with the knight and has a discovered attack with the queen, all of which are way more devastating
@thomasnewton2935
@thomasnewton2935 2 жыл бұрын
Move the knight in front of the white bishops pawn on the left side. You take a pawn and when he blocks with the queen, you take it with queen for checkmate.
@Elipsis150
@Elipsis150 Жыл бұрын
This helped me so much. Just played a game where this exact thing happened. I counter attacked his Queen to where he eventually lined up the Queen behind the bishop on the white diagonal, and I made the knight move you mentioned sacrificing the pawn. He took the pawn putting my king in check, I moved the Queen up to get out of check, he realized his Queen was under attack so he moved it to the dark square, thus hanging the bishop so I was able to capture it with my king.
@RobokiYT
@RobokiYT 2 жыл бұрын
At 7:07, better move would have been Nf4 as there is discovered check and you win queen
@Outcastsage9033
@Outcastsage9033 2 жыл бұрын
They can play Qd2 which blocks check and offers a trade of queens
@anantyadav3528
@anantyadav3528 Жыл бұрын
7:01 the best move here is to bring the knight to f5 and that would be a discovered attack to king while at the same time queen would be under attack of that knight we just moved
@ShazanKhan1
@ShazanKhan1 Жыл бұрын
i saw the same
@panzerkampfwagenviiimaus2187
@panzerkampfwagenviiimaus2187 Жыл бұрын
They just block with the queen
@pogcow4178
@pogcow4178 Жыл бұрын
I was thinking of the same thing but knight b3 would be a better move because you would win a free rook
@v_gigaharz
@v_gigaharz Жыл бұрын
​@@panzerkampfwagenviiimaus2187 yeah right
@marquis19
@marquis19 Жыл бұрын
@@panzerkampfwagenviiimaus2187 yes, but after that you need to attach the pond in the centre with your second knife and after that move you would definitely take opponent’s queen
@SHARKNADO_2006
@SHARKNADO_2006 Жыл бұрын
Beginners after watching this going to fight nelson: it's showtime
@Notolerancetoterrrorism
@Notolerancetoterrrorism 4 ай бұрын
Nelson is my boss, and yes I am going to fight 😂😂😂
@goldenkinggaming211
@goldenkinggaming211 Жыл бұрын
7:03 dont take bishop out instead move d-file Knight to f5 giving discovered check by queen and then winning opponent's queen on h6 and our Knight is also safe
@DogFogNog
@DogFogNog Жыл бұрын
As someone who almost always does early queen attacks, this was a very insightful video, and perhaps I may try some other strategies.
@Fortnite-jimmy2010
@Fortnite-jimmy2010 Жыл бұрын
It only works against 500 or less elo players, people play counter play after that.
@aarusharya5658
@aarusharya5658 Жыл бұрын
I really think you should stop playing early queen attacks. Above 500-800 elo, you will start losing almost every game.
@its.me.thegoat
@its.me.thegoat Ай бұрын
Bro freaky but still plays chess ​@ImfrAfreak
@GummiSammi
@GummiSammi Жыл бұрын
I’m confused. 1:46. If opponent is going for a scholar’s mate, why suddenly would they do a “random move” instead of the bishop move to set up the mate? The whole analysis of attacking the Queen falls apart. Am I missing something? Shouldn’t the analysis be punishing the Queen and developing your pieces WHILE defending against the imminent check mate? If scholar’s mate is blocked, would’ve white just retreat the Queen?
@GummiSammi
@GummiSammi Жыл бұрын
Nevermind. I’m commenting as I watch. You do address this
@johnthompson5335
@johnthompson5335 2 жыл бұрын
So refreshing to see someone get right to the damn point and outline the strategy from the jump.
@htsgamer2995
@htsgamer2995 6 ай бұрын
7:06 Bishop C to F4 is good move but Knight D to F5 is a brilliant move. Beacuse Discover check and i take opponent queen on next move😎😎
@jofieji5312
@jofieji5312 2 жыл бұрын
Your channel is so awesome. I sometimes take a break from chess because I can’t find that many people to play with. Every time I get back into it I come back to your channel. Love the way you approach things. 🔥🔥🔥
@EdMcF1
@EdMcF1 Жыл бұрын
Build a position in chess like a fire, start with the pawns as the tinder, then knights and bishops as the kindling and rooks and the queen the logs that you add on once the fire is nicely established. (Much harder than it sounds).
@airtylerb
@airtylerb Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info, I’m at 450 elo and I like using the wayward queen to put pressure on my opponent and catch them off guard. I’m at a level where it works half the time and now I know how to recognize when it’s not working and recover before it’s too late.
@oxifly276
@oxifly276 Жыл бұрын
Goofy ahh
@Pap3rGang
@Pap3rGang Жыл бұрын
7:03 in this position, I see a way to win a queen. If the knight goes to F5, there will be an attack on the queen while also a discovered attack on the king. They cannot take the knight that’s attacking the queen they cannot take the knight with the pawn. And if they do it will be an illegal move because your king is still in check. If anyone finds a good solution for white let me know.
@solareclipsedudefinale9026
@solareclipsedudefinale9026 Жыл бұрын
I think Queen to d2 saves the position as the queen blocks the check and saves herself
@soaringmonster
@soaringmonster Жыл бұрын
Never thought guides to beating Nelson would get this complicated
@ch-arts-us
@ch-arts-us Жыл бұрын
lmao
@ubitialcosmos
@ubitialcosmos Жыл бұрын
7:05, because you'd be forcing check, the King would move to the left, or down one square. If they moved to the left, that's forcing the fork all over again. If they moved down one, you could still go for the pawn, because that would open up the Queen head on to check again. If you don't want to lose your knight, you can simply move him to a spot that could also force check from Queen, while keeping pressure on/ guarding other pieces/being guarded.
@ubitialcosmos
@ubitialcosmos Жыл бұрын
@@TheRomanianWolf Can't you just keep your thoughts to yourself?
@mud_rocker
@mud_rocker 2 жыл бұрын
A few minutes after watching I played against someone who did the same queen opening as shown in the video. I applied what I learned and got a checkmate in 13 moves!
@clutchplays9587
@clutchplays9587 Жыл бұрын
U have to defend also not just develop
@antienjoys
@antienjoys Жыл бұрын
congrats :)
@JeanneTDeaux
@JeanneTDeaux 2 ай бұрын
Using your advice to develop pieces under an early queen attack, I managed to beat my opponent by checkmate! Thanks!!!
@kot3ika788
@kot3ika788 Жыл бұрын
That's absolutely mindblowing. *Nelson* teach us how to avoid early *Queen attacks!*
@eyecontrol4900
@eyecontrol4900 Жыл бұрын
i used to get screwed so much was i was a noob, by nelson. usually he would checkmate in 5-6 turns. At least now, i'm aware of what to do when he sends out queen on turn2
@zxph
@zxph Жыл бұрын
Why does this feel so much like a bot comment lmao
@silvers_RL
@silvers_RL Жыл бұрын
​@@zxph ong
@theinternetofficer6594
@theinternetofficer6594 Жыл бұрын
And he sacrificed... THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE
@kot3ika788
@kot3ika788 Жыл бұрын
@@theinternetofficer6594 what was incorrect? That's my fourth language :D
@mrloe4265
@mrloe4265 Жыл бұрын
In Concept #3 @7:01 After the pawns take each other and the Knight or Bishop have options to move out.....I would play Knight on D4 to F5 for a discovered check on the King from the Queen on D8 and capture White's Queen on the next move with the Knight on F5
@BluevesPL
@BluevesPL Жыл бұрын
White would just block the check with the Queen
@mrloe4265
@mrloe4265 Жыл бұрын
@BluevesPL aahhh I see. That would be the best response yes 👏🏽
@Zamiroh
@Zamiroh Жыл бұрын
I always love it when I see early queen attacks. I am usually between 1300 and 1400, so it is quite rare. But when I do get it, I can usually get a decent position. Opponents in my range usually will know the common counters, including getting your knight to d4. Usually they will position either a pawn or knight to defend that square.
@pananonimowy3483
@pananonimowy3483 Жыл бұрын
7:01 Actually, i think that you can attack queen here with knight and its discovered check
@enzoluisasuncion3621
@enzoluisasuncion3621 Жыл бұрын
I often encounter this early opening as a 900 player.. it's so annoying that they waste multiple moves this tactic is excellent don't mind them just keep developing
@FireyCanon
@FireyCanon Жыл бұрын
At 2:30 you can also move the Knight to d4 which threatens the queen and you can also fork the rook and the king on the next move
@Kallz777
@Kallz777 2 жыл бұрын
7:00 u could also do nf6 if they take pawn e4
@next_leveledits
@next_leveledits Жыл бұрын
7:02 You should move your Knight to f4 That's a free queen
@phairlyoddparent3972
@phairlyoddparent3972 2 жыл бұрын
In your example at 4:30, you could also move the knight to C2 and do a threeway fork with check and take their queen. Good move or no?
@smippycis6285
@smippycis6285 2 жыл бұрын
well yes, but they put you in check, so the check is needed to be cleared first, but if after the capture the queen hasn't moved or moved to a spot not defending C2, ez rook.
@thelavagod
@thelavagod Жыл бұрын
7:03 you can play Nf6! It puts a discovered check on their king while attacking the queen at the same time
@biggeo_ru
@biggeo_ru Жыл бұрын
F5
@moneygrowslikegrass
@moneygrowslikegrass 2 жыл бұрын
7:15 you can take white queen by attacking it with the knight
@Outcastsage9033
@Outcastsage9033 2 жыл бұрын
Queen D2
@albertskunik
@albertskunik 2 жыл бұрын
@@Outcastsage9033 aight thanks i was thinking knight move but you are right
@samsunguser3148
@samsunguser3148 2 жыл бұрын
it was the opposite, the moves were being reversed
@ericwilliams-hc1vu
@ericwilliams-hc1vu Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@leapinleroyeditzzz
@leapinleroyeditzzz Жыл бұрын
Thank you nelson! Ever since I've started playing chess I have gotten much better watching your videos from getting an estimated elo of 800 to an estimated elo of 1550! (even though my rating is 1039)
@rupendramukhia7365
@rupendramukhia7365 Жыл бұрын
Hey Nelson, In 7:02, knight f5 attacks the queen, throwing a discovered check on White's King
@EdKunn1
@EdKunn1 2 жыл бұрын
Hello , i always wanted to play agressivly with the queen but now , i see that it’s not really that aggressive, thank you for your video
@Ahmetburakacil
@Ahmetburakacil 2 жыл бұрын
Actually it can mate by itself
@malino24-souls
@malino24-souls 2 жыл бұрын
@@Ahmetburakacil huh?
@Ahmetburakacil
@Ahmetburakacil 2 жыл бұрын
@@malino24-souls i commented on thewrong comment lol
@aarusharya5658
@aarusharya5658 Жыл бұрын
Early queen attacks are a bad way to play chess.
@pohorex6834
@pohorex6834 Жыл бұрын
What I typically do is pawn d6 after the queen comes out, then queen E7 in front of the king when the bishop comes out, then pretty much no matter what knight F6 will be available to drive out the queen, and much of the board is occupied with the queen and bishops long diagonals
@jana31415
@jana31415 2 жыл бұрын
whats also cool with the position at 4:15 is that you can gork their king-rook if they dont pay attention and stip defending c2
@adolu.
@adolu. Жыл бұрын
at 4:33 he could made it at c2 with a check and then taking the queen
@proisborn
@proisborn Жыл бұрын
7:01 if you are really in that position then you should play nf4 then you will win the queen
@solareclipsedudefinale9026
@solareclipsedudefinale9026 Жыл бұрын
Qd2
@fxgodzeuss
@fxgodzeuss 2 жыл бұрын
I love shogi,Jananese chess,thus I am very interested in chess,too.Thank you for your clear explanation.
@bloswi
@bloswi Жыл бұрын
At 7:02 in my opinion the bishop check is a miss because there is knight to f5 because it is a discovered check and it is attacking the queen. There is queen to c2 which offers a queen trade so we instead move the bishop before the discovered check to b4 or make the knight take the e pawn and if they don't move their queen know we move the d knight to f5
@videirasamuel
@videirasamuel 2 жыл бұрын
On concept 2, when you move your knight to d4 to attack the queen, you can fork afterwards the king and rook
@user-qsdf9br3e
@user-qsdf9br3e 6 ай бұрын
I remember when I first started playing chess in 2020 during COVID-19 I fell for all these traps, fast forward 4 years I am now a renowned FM and the majority of my opponents cower in utter terror when they see me play. Thank you.
@iFlickBeans
@iFlickBeans Жыл бұрын
I’ve watched this video 5 times to counter my sons from their early queen attacks, needless to say, I’m winning 😂 thanks bro!
@b0jna
@b0jna Жыл бұрын
7:02 knight to f5 is a nice move, checking the king and attacking the queen at the same time.
@robertharding2654
@robertharding2654 11 ай бұрын
The black queen can retreat to d2 to block the check
@EraOfChess
@EraOfChess Жыл бұрын
Bro attack the queen while develops the knights and bishops
@amitgoel848
@amitgoel848 Жыл бұрын
At 6:08 we can't take the knight because of Qe5 check on the next move. Our knight on d4 is under attack along with the check.
@jwalakcrn407
@jwalakcrn407 2 жыл бұрын
7:00 dknight to f5 is the best move where u will be winning the queen
@Basisreallycool
@Basisreallycool 2 жыл бұрын
Then they block with Queen. If you take, then they take back with pawn which defends their centre pawn
@durooham2535
@durooham2535 2 жыл бұрын
@@Basisreallycool you mean take back with knight right ?
@AdrenalinRH
@AdrenalinRH Жыл бұрын
At 6:59, I think if white pawn takes, then black have to play knight to b3. Queen is attacking to king+ , and knight takes the rook
@nodrugshere4604
@nodrugshere4604 Жыл бұрын
I’ve recently lost the motivation to omprova at chess since i keep getting impatient and making dummy mistakes. This video gave me a new way to think and motivation to keep improving thanks a lot man your actually 1 of the most entertaining and usefull chess channels like Gotham chess
@coolihahn
@coolihahn 4 ай бұрын
7:02 it’s -10 because there is Nf5+. This is a (maybe) discovered check and winning the queen. Yes, there’s Qd2, but then the queen takes, another random piece (except the knight) takes and then Nxe4. If the king took the queen, then there is check. If Kd1, then Nxf2+ forking the rook. That’s what Nelsi didn’t explain.
@Hero-um9wj
@Hero-um9wj 2 жыл бұрын
Kight to c6 is actually one of the best move here
@papalegba6796
@papalegba6796 2 жыл бұрын
Agree.
@ishkanark6725
@ishkanark6725 Жыл бұрын
Near the end of concept 3 there was a possible discovered check + fork on the queen
@TkrzTT
@TkrzTT Жыл бұрын
Yh I saw that too
@nyquist_control
@nyquist_control Жыл бұрын
Not really, they just being the queen back to d2
@TkrzTT
@TkrzTT Жыл бұрын
@@nyquist_control didn’t see that tbf
@hicbisey9870
@hicbisey9870 Жыл бұрын
7:02 best move for blacks would be f5 (i guess everyone can understand but i will say) u will check king when king go somewhere u will get queen u would win this game easily
@axelcruizer4836
@axelcruizer4836 2 жыл бұрын
I always try scholars mate but now i see why i should try it more scarcely
@christianbriggs4476
@christianbriggs4476 Жыл бұрын
At 4:30 you can get the queen AND the bishop or knight by knight takes pawn check. Creating a fork on the king and queen.
@jonathancauley5345
@jonathancauley5345 2 жыл бұрын
After falling for this fork and unfortunate mate many times, I now have learned how to defend and potentially win. It has to been over 20 loses on the wayward attack/scholars mate. Quite frankly, some of loses were from the bot 😂
@jamesr1021
@jamesr1021 2 жыл бұрын
First couple times I got burned by Nelson (the bot) I figured out some strategies. I guess that bot learns somehow and hasn't gone to that quick "Queen Out" strategy as much. I love playing the bots in a ladder system (play until I beat one then go to Next Bot OR have to beat them three straight times before I go on). Playing bots allows me to relax a little more and take my time learning tactics.
@jonathancauley5345
@jonathancauley5345 2 жыл бұрын
@@jamesr1021 I agree man
@prashantsaini2442
@prashantsaini2442 Жыл бұрын
On 7:01 it's better for a knight on F5 as it's a check to king then simply knight captures queen
@flare9612
@flare9612 Жыл бұрын
Have been a victim of this kind of attack when I was a kid, have also been a perpetrator of this when I am up against a newbie, but never knew the danger or the exploit behind it (since the pros don't do that kind of opening). Thank you for this.
@lucasc2152
@lucasc2152 Жыл бұрын
The best move would be knight f4 at 7:02 It's a discovered attack with our queen so the king must move, and then you can capture the other queen
@MessLeadingProgramming
@MessLeadingProgramming 2 жыл бұрын
I got a game with the opponent pre-moving scholar's mate... Lost bishop, and queen and resigned lol
@jonathancauley5345
@jonathancauley5345 2 жыл бұрын
Happened to me yesterday, my player thought he was going get a win mate - nope 😆 try turning the tables 😂
@tackywacky99
@tackywacky99 11 ай бұрын
This video and the spreadsheet is like the best thing ever. I've been wanting to learn chess for over a decade and have been entirely overwhelmed by dates and tactics they id never be able to actually apply and I never get anywhere.
@barun9665
@barun9665 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Nelson sir. Can you please advice. I'm 2000+ on puzzles but on games I'm around 1000 to 1200 and I lose by silly blunders and unable to spot tactics for opponents and me which I can in puzzles
@marcusvinicius-yo4ii
@marcusvinicius-yo4ii Жыл бұрын
To counter scholar mate I always start with queen pawn move 1, then knight to c6, and then knight to e5, it will fork queen and bishop. If they make a move like D4 to take your knight out I use knight to h3 instead as it covers the checkmate square and is protected by the g2 peon
@Whoorms
@Whoorms Жыл бұрын
7:01 I would recommend doing knight f6 allowing for a discovered check on king and an attack on the queen by the knight. Their best move is to block the attack with their queen but I’m sure there is some crazy checkmate sequence out their for this position lol
@aradragoon1
@aradragoon1 Жыл бұрын
Literally came to comments to say that lol (Also knight F5 right?) It probably isn't a GM level move but I can see a few lines that while it would trade queens it essentially has all of blacks pieces developed while white hasn't developed anything.
@alexkt3400
@alexkt3400 5 ай бұрын
Wayward queens are my favourite as a 500 noob. I always go for the 5:30 gambit, and I was very proud to have found it on my own through trial and error
@redtapex4091
@redtapex4091 Жыл бұрын
Nice tip for that irritating queen move, mostly it's solution is based on the principles of *Luna's defense* 1. Let the enemy bleed until they exhaust his will to fight more. 2. If they have the numbers, show him brains to face on 3. Let the warfare last slower until you're forces are ready in position
@simonjosefsson
@simonjosefsson Жыл бұрын
Your* ;)
@rajkamallashkari
@rajkamallashkari Жыл бұрын
7:03 Instead of bishop check, the black knight at the centre can capture white queen in two moves while the black queen checks the white king.
@kamnasharma6143
@kamnasharma6143 2 жыл бұрын
Really like these conceptual videos! Very instructive as always, thanks!
@thebottman1
@thebottman1 Жыл бұрын
7:15 - Looks to me like an even better move is Nf5 (discovered check) rather than Bg4 .White can't take with their pawn because the King is in check, and the Knight collects the Queen after White either blocks or moves the King away.
@cerebralcomics
@cerebralcomics 2 жыл бұрын
Nelson, your videos are so damn good. Concise, clear & extremely helpful. Best chess channel in my opinion, by far. Keep up the great work! 🙏🏻👍🏻
@ianp5673
@ianp5673 2 жыл бұрын
agreed
@jeffsyun6159
@jeffsyun6159 2 жыл бұрын
Nelson is helping me to beat that annoying chess bot Nelson
@fadhilahabdulgani5332
@fadhilahabdulgani5332 Жыл бұрын
7:02 i think you can move knight to b3 instead? to threat and capture the rook, yea you may ended up to trade queen, but you get a rook which is better than the knight in many occasion.
@Trelmayas21
@Trelmayas21 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for another great lesson Nelson
@greekzeus1173
@greekzeus1173 11 ай бұрын
At 7:02, can’t you just play Knight to F5 for a discovered check, make the white King move, and then capture the black Queen? Or am I just not seeing something?
@scriptguru4669
@scriptguru4669 2 жыл бұрын
I've just got into 4 player chess, [~1500] I'd love to see some opening strats for that. I push my queen early to set up a promotion stand off in the middle of the board.
@MarioWasntHere
@MarioWasntHere Жыл бұрын
6:59 the best move after he eats ur pawn would be knight f6 because ur attacking queen with knight while they are in check because of your queen
@a3nder
@a3nder Жыл бұрын
4:20 royal fork miss
@JalenBrunson-e1l
@JalenBrunson-e1l Жыл бұрын
Where
@a3nder
@a3nder Жыл бұрын
​@Flame at 4:20 bro, watch a few secs then c7
@JalenBrunson-e1l
@JalenBrunson-e1l Жыл бұрын
Thanks
@WooblyL
@WooblyL 2 ай бұрын
no because the king is in check, you can't move your knight if it's in check.
@WooblyL
@WooblyL 2 ай бұрын
the queen moves to a3 checking the king, but can't move your knight to do royal fork.
@theMansalad
@theMansalad Жыл бұрын
during the tactic you're discussing around ~7:30 where we plan on trading our bishop for a fork on the king and rook, if white delays recapturing the bishop, and instead plays Qe5+ they can fork the knights and completely ruin black's plan to take the rook.
@Samosas1
@Samosas1 4 ай бұрын
Not really since you can play knight e6 blocking the check and also safeguarding your knight
@ScepticPJ
@ScepticPJ 2 жыл бұрын
7.03 Nf5 + = free queen
@jkill0993
@jkill0993 2 жыл бұрын
queen can block the check and force a queen trade
@alphathesupreme2238
@alphathesupreme2238 Жыл бұрын
7:16 knights b3 win a rook, they can’t take your knight, because of exposure check, and next move, you snag the rook
@B334XC
@B334XC 2 жыл бұрын
7:01 you missed a really good move that wins the queen nf5+
@rizzlecg
@rizzlecg Жыл бұрын
Discovered attacks like that are good to seek out but with that move the queen could retreat to d2 covering the check and negating the threat of the knight capturing it
@dustyoldduster6407
@dustyoldduster6407 2 жыл бұрын
Decades ago, during my college years, I played a game of chess with a fellow student, a girl who'd never fail to let a moment pass within which she would remind anyone nearby how smart she was. So, I started the game. I brought my queen out early, captured an unprotected pawn, but managed to get it hung-up on B7. I resisted thoughts that I had blundered and managed to develop a really strong middle attack with my other pieces directed at her un-castled king. Obsessed with freeing my queen, I suddenly realized the only safe move I had for it was to E7: checkmate. Completely unplanned. To the explosion of laughter from those watching, I realized instead of a win it was an escape (which I said to her), and I never wanted to play her again.
@NioJPlays
@NioJPlays 2 жыл бұрын
You should've went along with it lol
@Dixvtvods
@Dixvtvods Жыл бұрын
I like to make early queen attacks then pull my queen back to start. It's great for baiting out piece's that I want to make moves first. Plus, it's hard to punish if the queen just returns back to square one because you can't cut off the route. I never go for the early checkmates because I assume most people are smarter then that, though, I've gotten it a handful of times on people I knew weren't.
@Dixvtvods
@Dixvtvods Жыл бұрын
@@TheRomanianWolf Either one. Just depends on my mood. I prefer to bait them into thinking I'm going for the fools mate or a scholars mate, it typically pulls out a early bishop or knight, if not and they don't defend, I take another step forward towards it as long as I know it's still a safe option. Only pulling back once they move a piece the way I want or I end the match by checkmating them. It makes it easier to control the game if you control the piece's your opponent moves.
@oceanman6973
@oceanman6973 Жыл бұрын
One thing I’ve noticed is that generally unless you’ve played a bunch of bad moves, you should be safe from an early Queen with no other pieces developed by de facto
@woolly254
@woolly254 Жыл бұрын
7:03 if you play Nf5+ you pick up the queen
@oooooAEooooo
@oooooAEooooo 6 ай бұрын
bro u made the worst moves on white
@janjanveluz6937
@janjanveluz6937 Жыл бұрын
I just lost earlier to this type of early queen attack, thank you for making me learn much faster on what I have to do, ill continue watching your channel so I would become a better player
@csongorpapp9807
@csongorpapp9807 2 жыл бұрын
4:30 instead of taking the bishop with king, Nxc2+ is forking the king, queen and the rook aswell
@csongorpapp9807
@csongorpapp9807 2 жыл бұрын
7:00 also Nf5+ is a discovered check by the queen by also attacking the queen, the only good move for white here is Qe2, and then u can go for a queen trade or keep developing pieces while u held back his queen and also blocking his bishop
@RoderickEtheria
@RoderickEtheria Жыл бұрын
I'm more likely to use queen to protect a bunch of bishop attacks, but there's a knight move to stop that from being done.
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