Weird Rules in the Army - Why are do we have them?

[@christopherchaos]

I decided to get a little more creative with this video and also not as serious as normal. I wanted to make the video more fun. I hope you like the style.

[@kevintappe797]

I like the new style. You need to lighten up sometimes. Personally, I think that the hands in pockets issue is looking more professional and I would agree. The Air Force has always been a little more "laid back" and should not be a model to follow. I think that the rule about no electronic devices started way back with the Walkman. As for walking on the grass: This is common sense whether in or out of the Army. Don't walk on someone else's grass unless invited. Keep up the good work.

[@bayonetred7508]

As a platoon Sergeant of 35 soldiers I absolutely hated the cell phone rule. When I was trying to handle business. Trying to get somewhere and talk to my squad leaders, I would have to stop and talk on the cell phone. What ever happened to Shoot, Move and Communicate? Ridiculous. The Army was getting stupid so back in 2016 after 21 years I happily retired.

[@lelandgaunt9985]

Accidentally changed my number when I retired.😂

[@johnmorganjr769]

To keep you mentally occupied ,so you don't take over. 😆🎃😆🎃

[@johnmorganjr769]

Ditto. 👍

[@rednecksniper4715]

You can operate a billion dollar piece of ordnance but you can’t have a toaster in your room

[@Bree-Ones]

I always thought the no hands in pockets was because it looked unprofessional.

[@golfery5119]

I have heard that (and it seems to only apply to lower enlisted) and I have also heard that it makes you look relaxed and nobody in the military especially the marines and army is supposed to look relaxed ever.

[@Bree-Ones]

@golfery5119 never supposed to look relaxed and like you're not doing anything. Lol

[@bayonetred7508]

@benignobrionesiii frost bitten hands looks very professional

[@georgepainter7364]

Being an honorably discharged vet. I was under the impression that the salute was to show an officer you had no arms in your hand!

[@jeraldbottcher1588]

Soldiers are also not allowed to run while wearing headphones. They claim it is a safety hazard. You used to be able to smoke and walk at the same time. As a former field Artillery soldier, you only say repeat to repeat a fire mission. If you need someone to say something over again you say "say again". It is also for the same reasons you use the correct phonetic alphabet over the radio. uniformity of communication.

[@rustyshackleford5269]

I have an excellent example of why you keep your hands out your pockets. I was working at a prison when my supervisor asked me if I wanted to see a video. I said sure. A Sergeant was watching the chow line with his hands in his pockets. A guy came up from his 2 o'clock and started hitting him around his head and neck. The other Sergeant ran over and got the inmate off of him. The Sergeant wandered around for a couple minutes dazed. I wish they would show that in training to show why you always stay prepared for an attack.

[@golfery5119]

Ummmm, that's a literal prison with dangerous convicted criminals. Yeah I get that the military, even the Air Force or Space Force or Coast Guard, seems like prison (ESPECIALLY the Marines and the Army, and probably throw in ship life in the Navy too), but in garrison military there's a way less likelihood of someone jumping you like a literal prison inmate might do. Come on.

[@mikethemechanic7395]

The worst was no sleeping during the day. Spending time in the field was some long days. 3-4 hrs of sleep for a month. The few times I was put in charge. I would let my guys take a nap for a hour in the field or at the ASP. My best naps I ever had was behind the ammo bunker with the sun shining on me…

[@jerryKB2GCG]

Loved this, especially the cel phone one

[@bayonetred7508]

@jerryKB2GCG that's literally what cellphones were invented for, to be mobile. Sgt. 'Why didn't answer your cell when I called you it was important private!' 'Sgt, I was crossing the street. If I would have stopped to answer my phone I would have been killed by a semi truck!'

[@jthavorn]

I think the lower ranks to the left also has to do with how we stand in formation. At my unit, the highest ranking NCO stood at the far right, with the E5s, specialists, PFCs, etc following to the left. Also, I think you can only walk and play Pokémon Go if it’s a Ex Raid.

[@edwardmiller9611]

No hands in pockets because people think you are playing with your ding-a-ling.

[@bayonetred7508]

@edwardmiller9611 if you have to worry about the enemy sneaking up behind up and attacking while you're on a military installation, you have bigger problems than an E4 with his hands in his pockets.

[@jakobbauz]

Guess the Air Force has a problem in that regard... 😅

[@bayonetred7508]

@@edwardmiller9611 verified not humorous

[@marvinchoc5735]

I remember my drill sergeant saying that one of the reasons we don't walk on sergeant major's grass is to create a good habit of sticking to the safe trails. The safe trails being the sidewalks. Like in a combat zone, you wanna stick to the trails that have already been mine swept or whatever. Something like that

[@johncarney6576]

I am a retired infantry Ltcol and even while on active duty I would often salute an enlisted soldier first. I guess I did not see the salute as a sign of superiority but rather as a sign of soldier comradeship.

[@bayonetred7508]

@johncarney6576 I think saluting should be done away with. Imagine requiring a person to wave their hand and say hello to a perfect stranger. Seems ridiculous, doesn't it.

[@Barchenhund]

Some people don’t mind discipline, structure, protocol some do.

[@bayonetred7508]

Are officers so petty they must get that salute from a soldier thats doing PT?

[@0oo087]

No, it's generally very widely accepted that if you are actively exercising during PT, carrying something with both hands, or actively working with your hands (i.e vehicle maintenance, clean-up details, etc.), then you don't have to stop what you're doing just to salute. Plus, many chill officers also tend to purposely carry something in their right hand as a sign to others walking by that they don't care/want to be saluted.

[@bayonetred7508]

@0oo087 IM TALKING ABOUT SOLDIERS DOING PT ON A CLOSED TRACK AND NOT BEING ABLE TO LISTEN TO EARPHONES. GOING THROUGH BASE LOOKING FOR OFFICERS TO SALUTE SO YOU WONT OFFEND THIER DELICATE SENIBILIATIES IS BS. IF YOU WANT SALUTED SO BAD GO TO AN ENTRANCE OF A CHOW HALL AT LUNCH TIME. OFFICERS CAN GO F THEMSELVES WITH THE SALUTE. THEY ARENT BETTER THAN AMYONE ELSE. ITS BAD ENOUGH YOU HAVE TO CALL THEM SIR. MOST ARE STUPID AF. Yes, I'm yelling

[@hawk9865]

There are some Officers that are so petty and arrogant that the do.

[@zo5377]

It’s called customs and courtesies. It’s not pettiness

[@bayonetred7508]

@zo5377 pettiness

[@jeraldbottcher1588]

What I remember about no hands in pockets is that it presents a poor perception and poor military appearance.

[@Eaa-jz2wj]

I liked this style of video it was fun . The Army does have some different rules that is for sure . Some of them are to keep things nice or like you said to be aware of your surroundings ECT. Right before every weekend we had our last formation telling you to do that if you were going off post for anything. Along with the if drive don't drink and if you drink don't drive speech .

[@JamesDavis-jo9tk]

I always thought it was better to have my hands in my pockets versus having them in someone else's pockets...

[@christopherchaos]

but technically there is no rule against them being in someone else's pocket...... loop hole to the rule........maybe......

[@9erMatthew]

Lol. First rule, even Navy does it now. Hands in pockets yo.

[@golfery5119]

The Navy, while ship life sucks and e6 and below are treated badly on ships,..still isn't supposed to suck as hard as the Army and Marines.

[@sandovalperry2895]

In the early 70’s there was a rule that barracks rooms could not be one solid color. We had to paint a one-foot black stripe around the room from the ceiling down a foot. Someone thought this was to cover up the black soot from the wood fires in the potbelly stoves. This was 1970 not 1870 and we had steam radiators for heat. There’s always been a lot of crazy rules to screw with the guys living in the barracks.

[@GregGreg78209]

I was in during the seventies and I never heard of this rule. Must have been a chicken sh!t unit policy. Not that many units had nonsensical chicken sh!t policies then. Or now. 🙂

[@sandovalperry2895]

@@GregGreg78209 8th Infantry Division in 1972. We also couldn’t tuck our fatigues into our pants, even in winter. We had to buff the floors every morning even though the linoleum was missing from most the floor. The division had tons of macht nichts details.

[@Firemission-qw3lj]

What if a brigade sergeant major fail to render a salute to a second lieutenant?

[@christopherchaos]

I doubt the LT would try to correct a SMG so likely nothing would happen.

[@Firemission-qw3lj]

@@christopherchaos I thought so. Great on the new video features.

[@lelandgaunt9985]

Oh em gee! That actually happened to my Redditor smaj!!

[@johnmorganjr769]

I put my paperwork in '07, so 'cellphone policy' hadn't developed, but ,the time I saw the troops charging-up on truck batteries, I knew "this is going to be a big issue.". Have fun with that !

[@kaszaspeter77]

A right handed soldier would hold his shield in his left hand and would therefore be able to cover someone on his left rather than his right, so that reasoning doesn't make sense.

[@ericklozada2440]

99.9% of army/military rules are stupid as fuck, so glad I got out.

[@golfery5119]

Thank you for your service

[@golfery5119]

1:18 i was yelled at one morning for getting my keys out if my pocket at the barracks on the way to pt by a sergeant who was in his car

[@golfery5119]

3:13 ive seen this "violated" often and heck i just did it with my e6 two days ago

[@golfery5119]

0:50 What I usually see is somebody saying in the title about the Army (or other branch) and then talking about something that applies to all branches (like guaranteed oaycheck and free healthcare or gi bill etc) instead of of that specific branch I like how chris actually mentioned something specific to the Army (which in almost if not all cases applies to the marines as well since the Army and Marines, despite what so many marines want to think otherwise, have the most similarities of the branches) instead if the whole military.

[@phreakazoith2237]

I'm not a soldier but was issued a company cell phone by my employer. Would not like me to walk around while using it either 😂

[@timothygibbs7351]

Orders and discipline are the army’s tradition for obedience to commands especially in combat. Attention to detail is essential to maintaining good communication to prevent mishaps because of the lack of discipline. Soldiering is defined as discipline 24/7. I enjoyed being a soldier and leader. If you don’t have your soldiers’ attention during garrison duty or during peacetime then you definitely won’t have their attention when bullets are flying all around you during the real thing. Yelling at trainees during BT stay with a soldier throughout his military career and post military. I had to raise my voice at my half stepping soldiers especially during high OP missions. Please young warriors, don’t get rid of all the army traditions, then the army would not be the same. Oh hell yes, I enjoyed the military regiment and discipline. I would say to my HS cadets that I loved everything about the army even eating breakfast in the rain, snow or on the go during high op missions. NCO’s must enforce discipline of their soldiers even in today’s army.

[@bayonetred7508]

@timothygibbs7351 I can tell you were so insufferable as a leader. Just reading your comment, your arrogance jumps off the screen.

[@keithjansen1734]

Also if 2 military personnel are walking down a sidewalk or where and traffic could be, by being on the senior persons left side you can protect the from falling into or being hit by traffic.

[@GalvyGordon-qb5ip]

Wash, rinse, say again?

[@nicolasasta134]

I would definitely b guilty of walking while playing Pokemon Go

[@stevejorgensen5274]

Back in my day the 70s. We don't have cell phones. The only thing we repeated was shooting the bad guys. We didn't walk on the left we walked about 7 meters behind who ever was in front of us. Sense I wore blue jeans and a long sleeve camo tee shirt no one knew if my team was army or civilian so no one said anything to us about hands in pockets. Great video keep it up. 16:19

[@golfery5119]

Vietnam ended in the early 70s what do you mean by shooting bad guys

[@jeremyfrancois9101]

When do you ever see anyone having to wear goggles and steel toe covers on your boots when you have to mow the grass in the real world? Nowhere. But on base you have to Army policy. I never understood why all the vehicles in the motor pool had to have a drip pan under each vehicle but the parking lot in front of the barracks had cars leaking oil all over.

[@golfery5119]

Maybe with the drip pan catching the oil, maybe the heads in the Army don't want to take a chance on the vehicles slipping on the oil when leaving the motorpool.

[@tombob671]

My favorite one is no hand holding with your spouse. 1966 Camp Lejuene I was helping my very pregnant wife. The Major went apeshit. I saluted and said " She is very unstable walking coul you give me a hand" everyone looked at him like the turd he wà. But he did help me get her into the clinic.Funny thing is his wife was giving him the evil eye. 😅😅

[@paulmodderman]

About the grass discipline yes, but also respect

[@jabber1990]

"My recruiter did it" He was also in the wrong

[@vidarfe]

Sorry, I didn't quite get that fourth thing you said, could you repeat that?

[@isolatedissac]

What would you do if the retention nco lied about your qualifications to have you re enlist and caused you to miss your school date and now there isn’t any available ? They say I’ll have to wait an undetermined time and sign again when I finish ait to extend to go to my duty station even when it’s not my fault

[@golfery5119]

5:08 not just waking and talking on the phone, but even just looking st the phone while walking. whenever i get a chance to be off post in civilian clothes I admit that even this is something that brainwashes me. Im still scared to walk and talk on a phone now or even to walk and look at a cell phone after i had a sergeant major talk to me about it a few years ago . Keep in mind that most if not all of these rules can and are violated if you have a higher rank. Hardly anybody is going to tell an e7 to not walk and talk on/look at a phone or tell an officer to take their hands out of their pockets. And again I don't know if this is something unique to the Army/marines or if its a military wide thing. When i was at fort sam houston i did see quite a few Air force personnel in uniform walking and looking at their phones out in the open .I even saw quite a few of them having earbuds in uniform at the exchange store

[@hanshawks5088]

Chaos is a ladder 🪜

[@rickh.959]

I like the new angles of camera work, I hated those profile shots.

[@jerryKB2GCG]

we use “say again” in amateur radio as well. KB2GCG

[@lelandgaunt9985]

Is it true ham radio stinks like Redditor radio.

[@jerryKB2GCG]

@ ?????

[@jamescanterbury6634]

We called it the generals grass

[@israteeg752]

It's quite obvious when you put your hands in your pockets; it essentially communicates, "I've got nothing to do now." No wonder it's such a "big no-no" in structured organizations such as military forces. During my time in the Israeli military, we had a requirement that I truly disliked: always wear a barret on your head when wearing A-uniforms outdoors. Well, one day I found myself walking to my base on foot in the middle of a hailstorm, so it was either remove the barret or lose it altogether. Of course, I removed it, but as soon as I approached my base's entry point, all logic ceased at the gate, and there stood the base disciplinary NCO, who filed a complaint against me, leading up to an instant trial with the brass at headquarters. Unfortunately for me, the Israeli Army realized their mistake a few years after I had gone and moved the barret on to the shoulder epaulette, save for formal occasions.

[@bayonetred7508]

When I was in soldiers couldn't wear ear phones while running EVEN ON A CLOSED TRACK!. SO STUPID.

[@cardinalbob1]

Joke answer: Why not walk on the grass? Because the Sgt Maj wants to give you 50 push ups! 🤣😂

[@rnin689]

Me and my gen z brain can’t open instagram and look at funny memes. that’s gonna be sad when I enlist tbh 😢

[@lelandgaunt9985]

Dont

[@rnin689]

@@lelandgaunt9985 wym?

[@carlslovinski3224]

It’s about discipline!!

[@menachem2521]

Do you have any videos from when you were in the army that you still havent posted yet?

[@christopherchaos]

I don't think so. Maybe some random clips but probably nothing exciting. Most of my Army related videos are already on here if you go back far enough.

[@mariachi0322]

Discipline is important. All discipline rules have a purpose even if it is just for discipline. A soldier has to be ready all the time! Very aware of his surroundings. Discipline allows them to be always focused and ready to act if necessary!! If the military drops these simple discipline rules it will become one more broken institution. As many others including schools

[@jamescanterbury6634]

Don’t walk on the grass is discipline

[@jthavorn]

The army has weird rules because the army itself is weird.

[@lelandgaunt9985]

Yeah taking way from 670-1 is considered as “adding” too. Boonie cap CHIN strap.🙄

[@lelandgaunt9985]

Censorshiptube does not support the military, not sure why my 27 minute ago comment would be shadowed.😂

[@zo5377]

Thanks for being weird and posting this message.

[@bigczech7]

Get off the grass!!! It was always fun to yell at people walking on the grass happened to me a couple times. It was always funny to hear people yelling that from all directions when someone was caught.

[@AverageYoutuber6615]

The Army has these Rules because Some Solider Tried it and got Injured from it And now the Army Has To Enforce it.

[@christopherchaos]

Probably true.

[@AverageYoutuber6615]

@@christopherchaos they always told us in BootCamp everything we do in the Army even if we don’t understand what’s it for it has a purpose.

[@AriesDieterle]

Why can the K9 walk on the grass?

[@James-zg2nl]

I am a veteran and I don’t see any serious reason to oppose these rules. They all have reasonable grounds to base them, and have more reasoning to defend them than you went into, probably to keep the video concise. Hearing troops complain about these rules we also have in my country’s armed forces was always a red flag, strong indication of a slacker. Our armed forces takes dress and deportment very seriously (when I served), it shows professionalism in promotion of good military ethos, something we also found lacking when our American cousins came to train with us. The US Army has relatively subpar standards for dress and deportment.

[@wofat6300]

Are you still doing live cast?

[@christopherchaos]

Sometimes

[@wofat6300]

@@christopherchaos ok great. They're very informative and entertaining.

[@269hammer1]

It is all disciplining good orderly mannered. If you cannot follow a rude you cannot follow instructions you cannot follow the mission come on. Still have a rule for not complaining so much.

[@heavymetalsuperhero]

The most stupidest rule I have ever heard was if it ain’t clean it ain’t fixed. If ain’t fixed it’s not fmc. So stupid

[@jeraldbottcher1588]

I disagree. If it ain't clean that means you cannot inspect it to make sure it is serviceable. If it ain't clean you did not inspect it

[@heavymetalsuperhero]

@@jeraldbottcher1588 honestly

[@jeraldbottcher1588]

@@heavymetalsuperhero Yep. can tell you from experience how many times I caught my troops trying to get away with crap. One time there was a broken torsion bar they could not see because it was dirty. Once they cleaned it they could see the crack plain as day.

[@heavymetalsuperhero]

@@jeraldbottcher1588 damn, speaking of, we’re fixing a torsion arm in my tank tomorrow, can’t wait to see what that’s like. Apparently that thing has been messed up way before I moved plts

[@jeraldbottcher1588]

@@heavymetalsuperhero Sucks. Have to break that track most times. Get ready for a long day - and night

[@edwardmiller9611]

And the other branches of the military also have rules.

[@lelandgaunt9985]

Sure, none as stupid as marines or army.

[@lelandgaunt9985]

My real comment is suppressed.

[@golfery5119]

​@@lelandgaunt9985 This the military in general has silly rules,but then theres the army and marine corps. I atill cant belive people in the army will throw a fit at you if they see you with your rain jacket hoodie on when its actually raining Whats the point of having a hoodie on the rain jacket if you are not allowed to actually put it on when its raining?

[@lelandgaunt9985]

@@golfery5119 “Oh it’s April 15th everyone summer PT’s.” Regardless of the temp.

[@golfery5119]

@@lelandgaunt9985 another thing about raining, we have a rule against having umbrellas in uniform. Not only can't you use an umbrella but you can't even carry one. Apparently that is just an army (and marine) thing, I don't know about air force though. Apparently it's not navy. When I was in a joint training at fort Sam Houston, I saw a sailor in uniform using an umbrella when it was raining.

[@hanshawks5088]

Most army cant and chew gum 😂😂😂

[@golfery5119]

2:36 "maybe one day the army will kind of get on the same page as like the air force" I have to disagree. Sure maybe the army can relax some of the stupid things but at the same time, getting rid of really stupid stuff would make the army and marine corps no longer be the army and marine corps. The military in geneal (including navy coast guard space force and air force) is supposed to have dumb stuff, because thats the military. But the marines and the army are supposed to have some of the stupidest shit youve ever seen or heard of So as much as it sucks ass having to stand in formation for a while out in the cold without gloves on, i cant see the army and marines getting like the other rbanches and getting rid of that stupid rule Its best not to join the army or Marines in the first place if you join the military. Join one of the non-army/marine branches in the first place (i dont know about the navy, though).

[@floyd4311]

Here’s a rule, spell Soldiers correctly. Make an edit my man.

[@Robert-uh9vf]

@@floyd4311 soldiering irons are hot

[@lelandgaunt9985]

Ewe oar sew write!

[@denellgraves2397]

Hey Christopher Chaos this is off subject but I just wanted to just say this one thing the military Community needs to stop saying the things that we do in the military would apply in the civilian world because pardon my French that's bullshit the civilian world is unpredictable and for the most part in this generation now nobody really cares so when we tell soldiers that all this applies in the civilian world that's a load of crap the military world is not the same as the civilian world and from the lowest NCO to the highest ranking officer we need to stop talking as if what we do in the military applies in the civilian world because for the most part A lot of it doesn't

[@jamescanterbury6634]

Officers eat last

[@eugenesanders9460]

Each one of the branches has rules and regulations Shouldn't have your hands in your pocket so it doesn't look like your (jo) playing with your weapon If you're hands are cold put a pair of gloves on Not all NCOs do that (no chance outside) When you enlist in the military you become a gi (general issue) you give up a majority of your rights I didn't have a cell phone in the 80s These days using a cell do you actually see the enemy around you? Random is also a 10-9 you never know what is going on with basic or when you are in one of the military schools Pete and repeat were sitting on a log Pete falls off who is left Just use common sense and pull someone else's heads out your This is the first time I have listened to one of your videos

[@jurban611]

Notification platoon.

[@enriquegutierrez1902]

Rules and Regulations 20 years 🤢 🤷🏼💨💨♿️

[@Ole_Red]

Dad gum

[@austinshannon4197]

NFL GOAT, 🐐, Jayson Tatum.

[@golfery5119]

Why

[@user-fs5ey5ry2v]

This guy's uses way too many words. He's not decisive or concise. He uses the word "like" like way too much, like as if he's a teenager.

[@Amireza]

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[@christopherchaos]

Totally agree!!

[@lelandgaunt9985]

So stunning and brave