Weird Sprint Leadout from Alpecin-Fenix | Vuelta a España Stage 4 2021

[@georgewashington5250]

I only come for the supermarket chain analysis between Intermarche - Carrefour.

[@sldulin]

thx for including that post-race interview. Jakobsen actually conveys a lot of information instead of just the usual pap.

[@aronvlaardingerbroek2107]

Jakobsen did an absolutely fantastic job on positioning and timing this sprint. No more deserving winner than him today.

[@robbeelsas]

@@martinkent333 you acting weird bro, this your first time on the internet? 😂

[@santiagobenites]

@@robbeelsas Don't feed the trolls

[@robbeelsas]

@@santiagobenites I was hoping he was going to feed me, I'm into that shit

[@julians5037]

@@martinkent333 Besides sometimes running over children and old people I do mostly obey the rules.

[@alexwyffels9788]

@@julians5037 oh they are called children and old people? I always refer to them as moving speedbumps.

[@mrjellow]

To me Jakobsen represents what sports is all about. The amount of adversity he has faced and the success he has now really inspires me.

[@mental9mikey]

Movistar level leadout from Alpecin 🤦🏻‍♂️ but super happy for Fabio. What a road to recovery he’s had! 👏

[@fogelmclovin2694]

Disagree. Philipsen was already on Demare’s wheel and not being contested for it when Modolo came past him, so why should he come off it just to follow his teammate? In fact, Modolo’s attack cooked the FDJ train, isolating Demare at the perfect time and stopping FDJ from dropping off their sprinter with only 100m to go like Morkov did so successfully for Cavendish in the TDF. He lost because of Jakobsen’s good move, who came from behind. But everything they did was perfect for the action in front of them and disrupting a would be perfect leadout from FDJ.

[@halkerable]

Wow Jakobsen speaks very well, doesn’t he? Sounds like a clever guy.

[@tobilori8824]

Dutch People just can speak English 😌

[@halkerable]

@@tobilori8824 haha yes. I meant that more in a figurative sense. I would say that us Aussies are lousy at other languages… but check out Lanterne rippin’ the ol’ Español 😯

[@Kambodin]

Cant go to sleep before watching the LR Vuelta Video's 🙊 Keep up the good Work! Production quality is through the roof! 👌🏻

[@creepou]

@@martinkent333 ???

[@charlyncorgan1954]

Just remarkable to see Fabio so strong today. No hesitation. Looked pretty messy and tense and there was no panic from him. Thanks for the details. What a difference to watch the replays after you have analyzed them. Love it!

[@charliedillon1400]

Nice shout out to the medical team by Jacobsen. They did a great job. Dude looks good.

[@edwardp5748]

wow what a perfect interview with fabio

[@captainsushi24]

Bloody beautiful to see him win again! Great job Fabio!

[@notkaty]

Really happy for Fabio Jakobsen today

[@sebastiannielsen7763]

Love the supermarket analysis, on point.

[@marcbuchel4873]

Thank you so much for these wrap-ups @lanterne rouge they are sooooo good! Highly appreciate your work!

[@cesarhans]

Great analysis. You guys are the BEST.

[@talk2tim]

nice and thanks for including the interview.

[@BlueSoulTiger]

5:58 LR, you nailed the prediction about Cort (M.C. Nielsen)

[@davidpearl1730]

Agree with you about Carrefour. Excellent range of wines.

[@danielback7561]

I think the reason Ineos stayed in front after the 3 km mark was to keep their riders safe from crashes. Even though they won’t lose time, an injury from a crash can still destroy the race

[@l.d.t.6327]

2:11 the peloton almost split in the last K (see 2:49). So Ineos decided it was necessary to stay in front and avoid being behind a potential split.

[@framedman]

I think what a lot of people don't understand about the 3km rule is that the clock only stops if you crash or have a mechanical. It's not like you go through the 3km marker and you sit up, have a beer and a picnic. You still have to finish near the front with the rest of the GC competitors, otherwise you lose time. So when ex-pros kick off when it's suggested to increase it, it's madness because it shouldn't affect the race, teams still have to compete, it just takes the jeopardy out of it.

[@Nrk4u]

Best interview!!

[@andrewkane4228]

The 3km protects GC riders time if they within 3km but it doesn’t protect them from injury and there is still the potential to lose time if there is no crash. Ineos have made it a team strategy to position their riders at the front likely to protect their riders from the possibility of injuries and so they don’t get caught behind a split if there is no incident. As long as times are taken on the finish line and no gaps are allowed GC teams are going to ride hard to the 3km marker and beyond to protect their riders, I think grand tours need a 2 finish line system, 1 finish line possible 5 or 10km out is where the time is taken for the stage and then the actual finish line to determine positions on the stage, bonus seconds and points, you then give all riders 15 minutes to do the last 10km to ensure they keep the time at the first finish, this way you keep them out of the way but still make them work

[@stephenbarrett8861]

Tour of Poland to la Vuelta like a BOSS!

[@coopaloopmex]

Fantastic Review!

[@CaulfielHolden]

2:11 I do not think that it is pointless. But the problem is that you can still be caught on the wrong side of a split and maybe loose time. The 3k-rule only helps in situations like Taramaees. Maybe the GC-Time should be taken at 3k to Go.

[@Protoman888]

yeesh. The lethal grand tour Ineos-Jumbo combo strikes again.

[@TobiMcTobeface]

I learn loads from these vids cheers. Like, I had no idea Carrefour did cheap staples. I know that now.

[@epincion]

Thanks good review

[@chrispyy606060606]

Pure class

[@cnglight]

3km rule makes little sense. Gaps in GC still count if no crashes, so GC teams still have to drive. If they called GC gaps dead at 3km instead of finish on sprint stages, they could just get out of the sprinters' way. Far safer.

[@D0nKeY]

Well there is no reason to drive it on the front is there? The only goal after 3km mark is to finish in the bunch. You dont have to do a sprint lead out or pick up the pace with 2k to go. thats just silly

[@Fyr35555]

If they set GC at 10kms on flat bunch sprints then there would also be more space for different teams to take up the lead out. Problem comes with ambiguity like last year when Roglic won a stage that was changed from a 'flat' to a 'hilly' type stage, which I think meant that his gap to some riders counted as the 1s rule was in place.

[@cnglight]

@@D0nKeY Yeah, I understand that, but bunch is under stress because of pace, so what if gaps in the bunch emerge and your guy ends up on the wrong side? Also, even if crashes nullify times, you still don't want your leader to crash and safest place in a bunch is at the head. Basically, the 3km forces the GC guys to be at the head of the bunch when it's approaching its highest speed and its most dangerous, and it should only be sprinters teams in the bunch at that stage from a risk perspective.

[@D0nKeY]

@@Fyr35555 there is no ambiguity in this case. Not sure why you mention some stage where there was. But today there wasnt. Nothing happened. its just a sprint stage. the 3km rule was in palce. everyone knows it. nothing happened. The discussion is why pace at the front at 2km to go as a gc teammate.. thats what the discussion is about. Whether its 3km or 10km. it doesnt matter. especially if you decide to get to the front with 2km to go. Just surround your leader in the bunch and guide him to finish line to arrive in the bunch or the front group

[@whatwelearned]

Alpecin trying to help Demare out of his epic funk but Demare is his own man

[@Christensoncardioclub]

GC riders have to be near the front until the finish not just for crashes but gaps at the finish. If you're 40th wheel and they deem there was a 1 second gap between you and the guy in front of you your time is taken on the guy who crossed first in your group not just the 1 second.

[@LanterneRougeCycling]

There is a 3 second rule

[@czeckson74]

Patrick is a Carefour coupon saver ;-)

[@cb6866]

Thanks....... and what a story ! Peace

[@tubbytoast2]

Fabio , Fabio go go Fabio , Brilliant

[@oldanslo]

Philipson staying on Demare's wheel was a good decision as Modolo would have dropped him off too far from the line He was unable to protect that position however getting pinched by Jacobsen and Matthews. Jacobsen replaced him and promptly won the race.

[@jozetrselic]

Good to see Jakobsen win this

[@cremenivea6282]

Red jersey kept, grand tours might change drastically next year

[@santiagoorjuela9393]

the pacing is to keep their riders safe (ineos had major crashes in both giro and tour)

[@45madone]

That was alpecins lead out? Looked like he was going for it himself

[@davidcarroll4150]

Yeah he went himself when he saw his guy wasn’t on the wheel.

[@davidcarroll4150]

So nice to see Jacobsen very gracious with his praise for all the people who helped him make it it back. And also he sounds very upbeat and on it …. Philipsen has got his work cut out I think!

[@wambachjulian9204]

better coverage than GCN thats for sure

[@AugustaChile]

Carrefour at Andorra has the best salads. Fact.

[@coltonmiller7436]

I was under the impression that the GC teams just wanted to stay up front for some of the dangerous curves on the run in today beyond the 3k point. At least, that's how I'm justifying it... hahaha

[@pauljansen1137]

Philipsen just hesitated for a moment with his leadout gone too early....

[@aronvlaardingerbroek2107]

If philipsen took his teammates wheel he would've been positioned and launched perfectly

[@pauljansen1137]

@@aronvlaardingerbroek2107 teammates? the last teammate attacked himself, no?

[@aronvlaardingerbroek2107]

@@pauljansen1137 philipsen could've jumped on his wheel when the teammate past him, but as LR said he was probably fine with Demares wheel or couldn't switch in the middle of the corner. Only after the teammate looks behind him to see wether philipsen was on his wheel or not he decided to spike it up again. If you see when the teammate pulled off it was also when Demare launched his sprint, but the teammate was 2 bikelengths or so ahead, so would've been the perfect moment to launch.

[@pauljansen1137]

@@aronvlaardingerbroek2107 well ok..but i'm right about Jasper hesitating, no?

[@aronvlaardingerbroek2107]

@@pauljansen1137 Yeah, but his leadout was done at a good moment. That is though after both of his leadout men were behind him which shouldn't happen.

[@CanHammer]

question: whats the 3 km rule?

[@justinian963]

If you shop there for cheap staples, how cheap are their staplers?

[@AndrewBlucher]

That's just science! I nearly burst a blood vessel. Lucky I'm a cyclist with a robust cardio system :-)

[@france123weng]

I think the GC teams stay in front at 3k to go just to avoid crashes that might lead to injury? Better safe than sorry? idk j guessing

[@SatrnOne]

He was like... It worked for MVDP when Merlier won in the Tour

[@nolketasma4061]

INEOS pacing at 2k for Pidcock maybe?

[@charleswannemacher2280]

glad I could drop my like before that one guy inevitably dislikes

[@robertcatuara5118]

Surprised you picked Fabio over Cav for the Tour. Why?

[@juanjohnrico]

#freemezgec

[@paddydunne774]

Damn the twitterarti and their anemology

[@kingpluto8857]

Nope you not stupid, I saw it too and i was wondering the same😂😂

[@Nrk4u]

Go step bida bida step

[@R6ex]

Weird to see a "lead-out" coming from the rear ... LOL

[@hallothar382]

that's not even a lead-out, just a garbage last kilometre from alpecin.

[@nerfmono1]

Am I hallucinating or are those finish barriers bending and waving like crazy? That's not really safe, right?

[@crazypyro777]

Happy Jakobsen won. Maybe he'll take his lawyer dogs off trying to punish the rider who caused the crash now... Doubt it.

[@LanterneRougeCycling]

Why should he

[@Nrk4u]

lol 😂 🔌 this is not what I don’t understand

[@AshKetchhum]

INEOS #1

[@helloalex7579]

first

[@captainsushi24]

Hello Alex

[@nikosu5912]

I feel like this race is just a compilation of wierd sprint leadouts