None of these people actually buy comics. Keep killing it Rippa.
@heartlessangel29102 жыл бұрын
Makes sense as to why the woke go broke. The woke are just activists, not loyal patrons, hence businesses don’t get financial support when they give into pandering/political correctness.
@justmeok22 жыл бұрын
Is this really yellowflash? It says production when it should be a 2.
@bendu82822 жыл бұрын
Stan Lee said the beauty of Spiderman is that you can imagine anyone under the mask but he also said he doesn’t like changing established characters and would prefer to just make new ones. Now for me legacy mantles aren’t bad I mean look at Batman Beyond It’s mainly how you handle them and the problem with Miles’s introduction in the comics was that he was only made and given the mantle because of current day social politics, this was popular at first but eventually people just wanted Peter Parker again. back in those days if there was more to the character that made him unique and interesting most people would’ve liked Miles but due to the fact that most readers saw him as a Peter Parker clone with nothing to stand out interest dropped until Into The Spiderverse. Into The Spiderverse took Miles’s character and made him unique and interesting in ways that even some of his critics began to actually like his character. He was focused on as an individual not a current check box & more people began to like Miles in that movie because that version of the character was made and handled for more interesting and well written reasons then just being a Peter Parker Clone or current day social politics. But despite the fact that legacy mantle characters can be handled well and successful or badly and horrible at the end of the day the original or iconic version of the character is what most people identify with. Terry became Batman in universe of The DCAU but we call him Batman Beyond for a reason. He’s a great character but he isn’t Bruce Wayne. The same thing happened when all many of The Robins got the mantle of Batman, even if the story was good eventually people wanted Bruce Wayne as Batman again and The Robins as The Robins. The beauty of legacy characters is that passing down the mantle/torch is inspiring when written well and can be entertaining based on how you handle the story & characters like how Batman Beyond & Into The Spiderverse did but the downside is that legacy characters aren’t they’re own characters. They are tied to the original or iconic versions and since those characters are number 1 for many, they’ll always be seen as secondary to them. This is why original characters usually have more potential then legacy characters. So when people say Miles Morales is Miles Morales & Peter Parker is Spider-Man , it isn’t racism, or bigotry it’s usually due to the fact that for many are fans of the original character before the legacy character. I personally have no issue with saying Miles Morales is Spiderman because like I said legacy characters aren’t inherently an issue for me I love legacy stories when done well, but in my mind I’m saying Miles Morales is a Spider-Man, not The Spider-Man, Just like I’d think Bucky Barnes & Sam Wilson become versions of Captain America, not that they are The Captain America, because Captain America in mind will always truly be Steve Rogers. The lesson we can learn here is that legacy stories can be well made and legacy characters can be interesting with hard work and good writing put in but eventually they’ll have to be sidekicks, partners basically secondary characters to the original or iconic versions that came before because they can never truly replace them for people. For a new character that you want to have their own status has to always be original because while legacy characters can be well made they’ll always just be legacy characters to people which is just another version. T’Challa was replaced by his sister as Black Panther people didn’t like that either and The Black Panther comics were going downhill at that point anyway. Legacy characters can be made and I’m behind them being made because I always loved legacy stories as a matter of fact I’m one of the few old comic book fans that believes you can make these new legacy characters in DC & Marcel good if you strip out all the modern wokeness and actually put great writing quality behind them but they can never fully replace the original or iconic characters and they have to be mainly side characters in that original or iconic Mythos they can still have solo stories but they have to tie back into that particular Mythos so while fans can enjoy these new characters and other new characters with better creative writing put in they can still enjoy the original and /or iconic characters that mean so much to them with better interesting creative writing. The only new characters that should fully have their own status like the originals and or Iconic ones should be the new original characters that have their own identity. If legacy characters transition from mantle sidekicks & secondary characters to their own full identities then the same applies and if they’re are characters that start off as new original characters and go to a mantle of an older original and or iconic character the same rule of side character/secondary/sidekicks applies. I believe that will solve the problem for many older and newer audiences not all but many. No more replacing, and no more changing or downgrading characters to replace them either. If you’re making a legacy character they need to be well written & interesting to be liked but sadly they’ll usually always be secondary to what came before. That’s the most likely scenario Now if your making a new character with they’re own legacy & mantle or taking a legacy character and giving them they’re own identity, legacy and mantle then the potential goes up especially with good writing and storytelling. There’s a reason Dick Grayson got more popular when as the first Robin he became Nightwing, or Jason Todd The Second Robin became The Redhood, even Tim Drake The Third Robin becoming Red Robin, or Barbara as Batgirl becoming Oracle. You could most likely have the potential to tell great stories with them in The Batman mantle with a legacy theme but if you try to write that they stay there forever people will loose interest & eventually they’ll just want Bruce Wayne back as Batman. Because he is The Batman. “As the indefatigable 92-year-old superhero conjurer and Marvel Comics chairman emeritus sees it, fan backlash up until this point hasn't so much been spurred on by racism as much as unyielding fealty to the source material. "They're outraged not because of any personal prejudice, Lee says. "They're outraged because they hate to see any change made on a series and characters they had gotten familiar with. In Spider-Man, when they got a new actor, that bothered them, even though it was a white actor. I don't think it had to do with racial prejudice as much as they don't like things changed.” “I wouldn't mind. if Peter Parker had originally been black. a Latino, an lndian or anything else that he stay that way. But we originally made him white. I dont see any reason to change that. It has nothing to do with being anti-gay, or anti-black, or anti-Latino, or anything like that. Latino characters should stay Latino. The Black Panther should certainly not be Swiss. I just see no reason to change that which has already been established when it's so easy to add new characters.” - Stan Lee
@righteousrawb72252 жыл бұрын
Cucked-Conservatives supporting eachother how adorable
@bendu82822 жыл бұрын
@@righteousrawb7225 cucked conservatives? Really? what backwards rock did you crawl out of? I’m not even seeing the Righteous out of Rawb here 😂 😂 😂 Pride Cometh before the fall.
@scottstrobell46772 жыл бұрын
As someone who has read all the ultimate comics and Miles’ series, this guy responding to you has NO idea what he is talking about. You are absolutely right Young Rippa
@onlygoodthingsmyg2 жыл бұрын
The sad part is I think the miles run of ultimate is pretty thematically interesting but because nobody read those comics it'll probably not truly be adapted ever
@DT256592 жыл бұрын
Miles Morales is to Ultimate Peter Parker, what Ultimate Peter was to 616 Peter. If Spider-Man was Sonic, Miles and these other derivatives would be Sonichu
@dimitrijetucovic13072 жыл бұрын
Ultimate Spider-Man is garbage
@BrutalMonkey2 жыл бұрын
No, he'd be Knuckles or Shadow..lol
@michaeljohnson-ug4gr2 жыл бұрын
@@dimitrijetucovic1307 Ultimate Spider-Man is the fires You tripping
@streptococo47352 жыл бұрын
@@dimitrijetucovic1307 it was pretty decent till they killed off Peter, but the game from PS2 was a Masterpiece
@InternetNinja1002 жыл бұрын
@@dimitrijetucovic1307 I hope your talking about the cartoon because the comic from 2000s is amazing
@Mike_S7072 жыл бұрын
You'd think the fact that Miles Morales decided to call himself "Spider-Man" would be a big enough hint as to who he was supposed to replace.
@blondswanson2 жыл бұрын
he even alludes to Spiderverse, in which Miles ALSO replaces a Peter that already exists in his universe
@Doughboy10272 жыл бұрын
One argument that weirdos like to use is the "mantle" argument. Its weak, lazy and incorrect on top of it. Spider-Man isnt a role or just a name. It's a name that belongs, and is tied to, a very specific character, Peter Parker. I could give two shits what some writer wants to try and change. Spider-Man is Peter Parker.
@SWIFT_NINJA472 ай бұрын
Then you’re stupid because if the creators say mikes is Spider-Man then he’s Spider-Man nobody gives a shit what you think.
@fkyfky02082 жыл бұрын
You said it the best "They just like the concept of a black Spider-man."
@theblueoctopus44942 жыл бұрын
Jennifer Lawrence was the first ever Spider-Man.
@thomasb62832 жыл бұрын
Jennifer lawrence was the first actress in movies
@newtpondskipper2 жыл бұрын
I remember when she saved Uncle Ben's life
@bobjohnson16332 жыл бұрын
Jennifer Lawrence was never Spider-Man. She created the spider that bit Peter. She also invented spiders....and biting
@colinmorgan27372 жыл бұрын
She was the spider, she is Jennception
@WaxTheDolphin2 жыл бұрын
Jennifer Lawrence is when they say "take me to your leader!"
@DemonicAkumi2 жыл бұрын
When someone who doesn't even like the character knows more than the fan of the character... you didn't just lose the battle. You lost the war.
@purkle2002 жыл бұрын
The most BS statement I've ever heard from a Miles 'FAN' " Miles is a more interesting character than Peter ! "
@AdamRhodes5362 жыл бұрын
The fact these people call YOU a tourist and a fake comic book fan, while getting everything wrong constantly
@Raspse7en2 жыл бұрын
These people do nothing but project what they are on people they don't like.
@thetraveller48392 жыл бұрын
The biggest problem I have with detractors like the ones Rippa highlighted is how dishonest they are. They want to win an argument and discredit others so badly that they resort to dishonesty to do so. Even if they have a point, why should I trust them? Their dishonesty has already tainted them. Not that they cared about integrity, but being shown up as the embarrassment they are is something they've rightfully earned.
@SirBlackReeds2 жыл бұрын
They're just like the journalists who purported that Justice Clarence Thomas was going to go after Loving v Virginia, then smeared him as inconsistent and hypocritical when they found out that he had absolutely no intention of going after that case.
@beet84902 жыл бұрын
@@SirBlackReeds That and when Roe v. Wade was overturned and conservatives said they were willing to adopt unwanted children only for the media and celebrities to smear them as evil.
@bobjohnson16332 жыл бұрын
Most people who don't have an argument just say anything to try and win. They don't care about facts. They only care about winning so they feel good
@BrandonHeat2432 жыл бұрын
Seeing him pretend to be an expert on Miles while not even knowing that Ultimate Peter Parker existed is frankly rather hilarious. Even if someone started to read Ultimate Spider-Man after Peter died to jump on the Miles bandwagon Peter still plays a huge role in the story. And the venom blast comment made me wonder if the dude was just a straight up troll. How could anyone be so clueless?
@Wyqno2 жыл бұрын
They are sophists. All that matters to them is winning, so they will change their argument from moment to moment to achieve that goal.
@NoPantsBaby2 жыл бұрын
From Marvel's own summary: "To quickly end the battle, Miles uses his Venom Blast which has a good effect on Omega Red, putting a stop to the villain." The fact this weirdo thought Venom Blast was a poison attack means he don't know what the fuck a Venom Blast is.
@ExeErdna2 жыл бұрын
Or the fact some electricity would stop Omega Red... He been struck by lightning by Storm before and was good, she had to freeze his ass to stop him.
@bobjohnson16332 жыл бұрын
I don't know wtf venom blast is. I just know that only peter is Spider-Man and everybody else can go to hell. Except Gwen. That was a cool alt-verse
@DarsiPadilla2 жыл бұрын
@@bobjohnson1633 Nah, Spider-Gwen should die as well. Almost everything about Spidey has been mangled. As for Venom Blast, it's a move that's best associated with Jessica Drew because of the nature of her mutation (a mix of her dad's radiation-resilient serum that was derived from spiders and the High Evolutionary's genetic acceleration treatments).
@riotkitty2 жыл бұрын
Thinking of Pokémon maybe cause there is a move called “Venom Shot” that is a Poison type attack lol
@UltLuigi1 Жыл бұрын
No, they're thinking of actual Spider Venom, which is poisonous by nature. Venom has basically nothing to do with bio-electricity. We even have a prominent Anti-Hero NAMED Venom who is called that because he's like a poison to Spider-Man.@@riotkitty
@ansemthetrueseekerofdarkne27302 жыл бұрын
Can these people just admit already that Miles is an echo fighter at MOST.
@maninthemask62752 жыл бұрын
LMAO
@lightning1162 жыл бұрын
Smash Ultimate reference 🫡
@trashboat53882 жыл бұрын
Isn’t more of a compliments since echos are fan favorites too like Richter and Daisy. He’s more like a DLC Spirit
@bandawin182 жыл бұрын
BRUH 💀 Never have I seen such an accurate analogy of Miles until now
@bandawin182 жыл бұрын
@@trashboat5388 he's an assist trophy for the real Spider-Man
@jdenney2 жыл бұрын
I don't know why people try to defend these ripoff characters so much.
@scipioninja2 жыл бұрын
They like the idea of a black Spider-Man instead of the real Spider-Man.
@streptococo47352 жыл бұрын
@hush7982 not necessarily, i think Huwhite people think it somehow cleanses their ancestral sins when they praise a tokenized character, and for black folk, they think a tokenized Spider-man is amazing since is like Affirmative action, nothing about merit but basically stealing someone else spot by the virtue of being black.
@byronrush98022 жыл бұрын
@@scipioninja they can't come up with their own ideas so they end up making gay representation characters who only characteristics is being gay or a stereotype of their race or both, Spider-Man is a great character because everybody can identify with him almost everybody has been the underdog at one point you want to cheer for him you want him to win
@Tyler_W2 жыл бұрын
I don't care if anyone likes any of them, I like plenty of the spinoff Ronins, Green Lanterns, and Flashes for example, but at least be honest about them, fir good or bad. I'm fine with legacy characters who are otherwise unique people apart from sharing the moniker of someone else who had it first. I don't even mind that Mikes exists. The problem with Miles is that he is literally just a less interesting Peter. Calling him Peter Darker says all that needs to be said about him. Into the Spider-verse was the first time I actually managed to give a rip about him because they actually put in the effort to give him his own personality. If they just made Miles more like the movie, stopped trying to ship him with a younger Gwen Stacey, and called him literally anything other than Spider-Man, I might actually be persuaded to care.
@chrisbaker85332 жыл бұрын
ideology. They are religious zealots that are incapable of anything approaching rational thought.
@nont184112 жыл бұрын
And they wonder why people lost investment on the comics throughout the years. They refused to let a fan favorite protagonist like Peter Parker grow and move on with his life. They never give Mile Morales an actual character without copying someone else.
@MaisonAceNutter2 жыл бұрын
I totally agree and I’m sad because of that Every time they try to give Peter Parker a life they take it away from him He has a wife and daughter, who have powers and they’re like the fantastic four, but then they take it away from him because apparently you can’t tell any good or entertaining stories with Spider-Man being married, which is the stupidest bunch of crap I’ve ever heard Spider-Man a.k.a. Peter Parker will always be one of the most popular and greatest superheroes ever. I’m just sick and tired of marvel trying to milk it so much I’m gonna watch the new Spiderverse movie and I hope it’s gonna be good. I still think they need to focus more on Peter. I’m in the middle of the road.
@nont184112 жыл бұрын
@@MaisonAceNutter How they wrote Peter Parker story is simply a “grief porn”. They always make him miserable with the excuse of “with great power comes great responsibility” bullcrap. Everyone else also has responsibility, and they can still live happily with nice families. Why can’t Peter have the same thing?
@byronrush98022 жыл бұрын
@@nont18411 they're trying to make him Marvel's Batman but Spider-Man isn't built that way He's not obsessed with the mission He's just an average Joe using his powers to do good He's already paid his dues at this point in time he deserves to be happy not have the love of his life with another man raising kids and he comes off as a stalker he deserves not to give up his family just to save Aunt May with a bad deal from mephisto when she's going to die of old age anyway, I like the comic where he actually gets to talk to God and ask if he really does make a difference He's on a beach with all the people he's ever saved and there are millions on that beach he gets to see the change he made of those people lies and what they went on to do with the lives he saved some of them became doctors and lawyers firefighters
@no.1spidey-fan1822 жыл бұрын
@@byronrush9802 crazy thing is...batman...HAS a family😭. Thats the thing everything a character loses so much becoming what they are...a GOOD writer gives them everything in return. Batman essentially fathered like 4 - 5 kids😂
@fkyfky02082 жыл бұрын
People said they like Miles Morales from the game and his character is blank as a bread
@RANDOMPEPSIBOTTLES2 жыл бұрын
Realizing now that his cloaking was taken from Parker'a big time suit invention, his venom blasts from spider-woman. Wild that he his unique power traits arent really unique at all
@DarsiPadilla2 жыл бұрын
Big Time letdown is post-OMD; so it's the retarded man-child corpse.
@weilam032 жыл бұрын
The Miles Morales grift is the gift that keeps on giving
@streptococo47352 жыл бұрын
Is the grift that keeps on grifting*
@Tyler_W2 жыл бұрын
He's somehow even more pushed than Ms. Marvel and Captain Marvel, and he's the least original of the three.
@Gsevenreviews2 жыл бұрын
@@ahoramazda6864 oh yeah i noticed that a lot with Rippa's reply guys. Whenever Miles or any other Tokenized character get brung up, they always point to another tokenized character from some super old obscure comic that isn't even canon to prove their point. They always try to use that as some sort of "gotcha!" moment. It's so weird how low these people will go to embarrass themselves, then double down on it simply because of their extreme hatred for one person.
@andraw4002 Жыл бұрын
@@ahoramazda6864 Every Joker now needs to have long hair and face paint just so they can attempt to recreate Heath Ledger.
@Thomas.Wright2 жыл бұрын
With THREE WORDS, you can annihilate any of these Miles Stans, proving that he's nothing but a tokenization: "BY ODIN'S FADE!" Even Marvel recognizes he's just a tokenization and did so in their own books!
@SyntaxErrorr2 жыл бұрын
“Did you watch the spiderverse movie, it’s electricity not venom” Spiderverse movie peter b Parker: “then venom strike me right now miles” Miles morales sony game: Press L1 + ◻️ to venom punch
@armydad10252 жыл бұрын
I like how he calls you a "comics tourist." It's clear he has NO knowledge of you or ever watches your YT videos and live streams.
@Tyler_W2 жыл бұрын
His first mistake as a fake nerd (which I use with all respect since I am one mysepf) was calling the real deal a tourist. Never call someone who's a nerd about something a fake fan about the things they love, because that's a good way to get embarrassed. It's projection at its finest.
@austin9568AuraMasterDX2 жыл бұрын
Miles got these people actin unwise
@vladpiranha2 жыл бұрын
That's his real superpower.
@UnwantedGhost12 жыл бұрын
@@vladpiranha Fr 🤣
@Albert-x8g Жыл бұрын
It's really concerning that the best interpretation of Miles is not even in a comic book, though
@Dreadjaws2 жыл бұрын
Here to point out that even in the animated movie Miles is still replacing a dead Peter in his own universe. They were starting their own timeline, their own multiverse and they still had to make Miles pick up the sloppy seconds. They couldn't even make him the only Spider-Man of his own universe even though they had a Peter from an alternate universe work as his mentor, which killed the need for Peter to exist in Miles' universe. They had all the tools to make him his own character instead of a legacy one and they still couldn't bring themselves to do it.
@UltLuigi1 Жыл бұрын
because he was never written to be his own character. The concept for him from Brian Michael Bendis is literally just "we have a black president, so why not a black Spider-Man". His character design is even based on Obama. There was never any thought added beyond that, which is why you have plot contrivances like Venom Blast and the stealth camo present to make this character on the surface seem better, but he's not.
@dimitrijetucovic13072 жыл бұрын
They stan for these characters and know nothing about them except for the wiki fandom pages and comicsexplained youtube videos.
@chrisb75282 жыл бұрын
They Stan but don't Stan Lee.
@nahtesalinas19172 жыл бұрын
I hope that dude self-deletes.
@perfidious3332 жыл бұрын
Cool, saying the same thing Rippa said while complaining that people just regurgitate things… Makes sense. 😏 That said, Rippa isn’t wrong.
@Liqo3152 жыл бұрын
@@chrisb7528😂🤣🤣🤣
@dimitrijetucovic13072 жыл бұрын
@@perfidious333 I had this stance way before i discovered Eric.
@Kill2Hard1012 жыл бұрын
Not only the comics, there are videogames like Shattered Dimensions where you can play the Ultimate Universe spidey and it's Peter Parker not Miles.
@siscobeast822 жыл бұрын
I had a supervisor at work that would Wikipedia everything when talking comics. I eventually just made shit up when debating him to get him to go away because he would just look up exactly what I said. Forcing him into hours of research.
@aurizanhabib35222 жыл бұрын
Anyone who justify a lie for for humanity, deserved no trust for granted
@ribbythepartyfrogii2 жыл бұрын
*The part where Andrew apologized to Electro for being White was super cringe.*
@samuelsmith54002 жыл бұрын
I remember when miles morales 1 first came out, I refused to read it because I assumed it was just Peter Parker but black. After my friend finally forced me to read it I found it alright, I thought it was an interesting story of Peter Parker dying in his universe so now someone else picks up the mantle. I just assumed it would be kind of an ultimate comics timeline thing, but it seems like they are trying to force miles into everything.
@scipioninja2 жыл бұрын
I stopped readin Ultimate Spider-Man a volume in to Miles's run. It wasn't interesting, it was derivative as fuck and I wish he would have stopped appearing once they cancelled the Ultimate universe.
@ceegronlee2 жыл бұрын
RIP DOOM
@longtsun82862 жыл бұрын
To paraphrase a certain princess, "The more Marvel tries to push a mantle-swapped character, the less interest people have on him or her."
@Tyler_W2 жыл бұрын
@@longtsun8286 perfect example of this is Laura Kinney/X-23. She became infinitely less interesting when they tried to shoehorn her into the Wolverine role. Fine, whatever, let her wear the costume while Logan was dead, but the fact they tried to pull a "Miles is Spider-Man" when they brought the proper Wolverine back. I'm fine with homage characters so long as they're their own people, but unless there's an in-universe reason for it (like "Green Lantern" literally being a title like "Officer"), I'm getting really tired of mantle swap characters where now we have multiple people running around with the same name at the same time. Say whatever you want about the endless supply of Robins, good or bad, but at least they've always been consistent about making sure there was only one character currently named Robin, allowing former Robins to grow up a bit and giving them new and original identities.
@nobodyknowsforsure2 жыл бұрын
@@Tyler_W even her wearing the costume doesn't feel right, it's not her. She's deadly but the reality is nobody sees her and goes "Ahh it's wolverine..." No...just no. Part of her charm is how deadly she is and fools underestimating her.
@toddtaylor65062 жыл бұрын
Worst thing that has come from comic book characters going mainstream due to the MCU and DCEU, people that have never and will never read or buy comics in their lives think they know more about the characters than people who've read their stories for decades.
@SergioHernandez-le8wp2 жыл бұрын
I like how @Vena Reviews backed you up with a quote from the movie where Peter is egging Miles to use his powers at will and asks him, "Venom-strike me right now". Wonder if HE even actually watched Into the Spiderverse
@Johnlindsey289 Жыл бұрын
Peter is Spider-Man accept no substitutes! Miles is a Spider-Man but not THE Spider-Man
@LowellLucasJr.2 жыл бұрын
I feel you bro! There are way too many weirdos out there trying to show off what they know but wouldn't know a damn thing without the power of wikipedia. Freaking Comic Drake is the biggest example of that
@byronrush98022 жыл бұрын
Yeah I had to stop watching him he was giving out so much misinformation especially when it came to my boy Spider-Man such disrespect cannot be tolerated
@LowellLucasJr.2 жыл бұрын
@@byronrush9802 my biggest problem with him was that he was trying to make views by dumping on '90s comics in general. Dude had no clue what it was like back then
@byronrush98022 жыл бұрын
@@LowellLucasJr. I cannot stand people who don't respect lore and what came before you wouldn't have the bat family without the Batman, it's a damn shame comic book artists today are afraid to try anything different they want to stick to the status quo which is why comic books are currently failing
@LowellLucasJr.2 жыл бұрын
@@byronrush9802 definitely agree!
@lincolnpascual2 жыл бұрын
I fucking hate that dude.... extremely obvious shit, and he'll still get it wrong.
@lightning1162 жыл бұрын
Miles Morales was fine when he was a substitute for Spider-Man when Peter Parker died in his universe. Now that they took Miles away from his universe and put him in the same universe as Peter Parker while he's still alive, that hurts Miles Morales more. There's a reason why he's called Peter Darker. Miles could've been his own character, but he got hijacked by a bunch of no-talented hacks and racial activists who don't know what they're doing.
@ghostaccountlmao2 жыл бұрын
It's sad that the interest and understanding of things they hold "dearly" are as shallow and pointless as their own personality.
@BellowDGaming2 жыл бұрын
They should just call him Spider-Miles
@Harrison111062 жыл бұрын
I like that, that works.
@fkyfky02082 жыл бұрын
Lol when I think about it, Spider-Gwen is more of a character then Miles Morales
@Ryo7_72 жыл бұрын
These weirdos are sad, nosey and projecting their own insecurities on people like who they feel envious/threatened by. Keep it rockin 🤘🏾.
@yaboipele342 жыл бұрын
Dude, the alien suit gave Spider-Man camouflage when he wore it lol
@ProminenceSmash9 Жыл бұрын
And the year before Miles was introduced, 616 Peter had created the Big Time Stealth Suit, I only found out because I wanted to find out what else Miles had copied from other Spider-heroes.
@diddly-squat93322 жыл бұрын
Another point against him and the Spider-Verse is that there's already plenty of Spider-Tokens, in the main continuity: Ben Reilly and Kaine Parker (which had the decency to call themselves differently), Ezekiel Sims, Jessica Drew, Julia Carpenter, Charlotte Witter and Mattie Franklin, and a couple more with future continuity like Mayday Parker, April Parker and Ashley Barton. There's no real need to have more and more Spider-Tokens. Eight of these examples can be tolerated because they are directly related to Peter, both cause they are clones or his descendants or a clone of his descendant with April's case. I don't know if you want to consider Reilly Tyne, as one, since he chose to be Darkdevil and not a Spider-Person, even if he's Ben Reilly's kid and Bengy Parker was still a baby, in the MC2 continuity. And it's already daunting to have infinite Spider-Dudes spread across the Multiverse, but they are constantly ret-conned in and out of existence every couple of years, a proof that people only likes the IDEA of Peter Obama Darker, is because he doesn't have a story and a set timeline. He and his universe have being kept rebooting since his introduction, specially cause nobody asked for Peter to be killed and replaced by a r*cist caricature that all he's missing is a pair of kfc dispensers instead of web-shooters and a taste for watermelons and bananas. Nobody wanted Ben Reilly to replace Peter, which was a goddamn clone, why would they think that having a socialist depiction of a black kid would be any better? Nobody has a genuine care about him and nobody ever will. Because he was specifically made to replace one of the most beloved characters in modern day mythology. We are already opposing these sadistic writers who keep f*cking with Peter's life just for the sake of keeping him from aging and being a man, despite the fact that the premise of Spider-Man is just that, a boy growing up to become a man because of his acceptance of responsibilities (a lesson, these days he needs to relearn every couple of years at someone else's expense). Why would we accept people actively trying to kill him off so that a poser can replace him just to have the exact same life Peter already had? They don't even care to give him his own life, he just lives what Peter already faced when he was alive. And going back to Peter being responsible, the only reason why ONLY in the Woke-Verse movie and the PS4 game, Peter is responsible, is because they are using him as a stepping stone for Miles, otherwise he would still act like a complete moron at the expense of other people's life.
@jamesjackson65632 жыл бұрын
My guy you said it best 💯. I'm sooo sick and tired of all of these ridiculous extra spider totems. Unbelievably stupid ones at that. We literally have a spider person who uses crutches lol 😆. I like successors of Spider-Man and other superheroes. Throughout time like aging up Peter parker and going to mayday. Then finally in my opinion the true final Spider-Man (2099) Miguel o hara. If people what to place miles into that for their own take on who "wears the mask" next that's up to them. But in my opinion miles sucks.
@diddly-squat93322 жыл бұрын
Because they force him into Peter's life, it's never genuine, and it'll never be, because they specifically told us that Miles exists to be a blackwashed Spider-Man and, even worse, he's inspired by a race-hussler warmonger.
@jamesjackson65632 жыл бұрын
@@diddly-squat9332 agreed everything you said is facts. Then the stupidest thing happened after they brought back ultimate Peter parker just for the ultimate to get destroyed in the cataclysm event. Smh. They could've done so many original things with miles like make him a mutant or an inhuman. Or hell a different type of spider mutate that received his powers differently. Honestly if I had control of the miles character I'd make him different from Peter in EVERY way other than the spider power aspect. 💯
@diddly-squat93322 жыл бұрын
@@jamesjackson6563 But then they would kick you out of Marvel 😂
@jamesjackson65632 жыл бұрын
@@diddly-squat9332 lol today's modern marvel yeah most likely 😆
@theprophet94282 жыл бұрын
This reminds me of people who use “seasons” when referring to arcs in anime. No one uses seasons when talking about anime, it’s always arcs
@RomanHistoryFan476AD2 жыл бұрын
I remember using arcs or sagas, never seasons for Dragon ball back in the day.
@kingplutoxiao12 жыл бұрын
this is very accurate
@seanmuir28622 жыл бұрын
But many anime studios have been releasing arcs as seasons the last few years due to more and bigger deals with western distributors- ex Hero Academia. And anime has always been seasonal, IE winter, spring, summer, fall animes schedules
@kingplutoxiao12 жыл бұрын
@@seanmuir2862 thats because of Demon Slayer
@VentrexTheXVth2 жыл бұрын
Seasons are time based. Arcs are story based.
@joehasskamp55232 жыл бұрын
Sounds like the kinda person who would pull up a page from Isom off the internet never realizing it wasn't from the actual book.
@wesleyhall35542 жыл бұрын
He'd only have to read maybe 5 issues of Ultimate Spider-Man with Miles from early 2000s to know he's wrong.
@GREG_Khar-NÜ-Metalhead20002 жыл бұрын
Miles is from 2011
@wesleyhall35542 жыл бұрын
@@GREG_Khar-NÜ-Metalhead2000 you're right. I knew it was a long time ago and that the universe existed then. Thanks!
@bendu82822 жыл бұрын
Stan Lee said the beauty of Spiderman is that you can imagine anyone under the mask but he also said he doesn’t like changing established characters and would prefer to just make new ones. Now for me legacy mantles aren’t bad I mean look at Batman Beyond It’s mainly how you handle them and the problem with Miles’s introduction in the comics was that he was only made and given the mantle because of current day social politics, this was popular at first but eventually people just wanted Peter Parker again. back in those days if there was more to the character that made him unique and interesting most people would’ve liked Miles but due to the fact that most readers saw him as a Peter Parker clone with nothing to stand out interest dropped until Into The Spiderverse. Into The Spiderverse took Miles’s character and made him unique and interesting in ways that even some of his critics began to actually like his character. He was focused on as an individual not a current check box & more people began to like Miles in that movie because that version of the character was made and handled for more interesting and well written reasons then just being a Peter Parker Clone or current day social politics. But despite the fact that legacy mantle characters can be handled well and successful or badly and horrible at the end of the day the original or iconic version of the character is what most people identify with. Terry became Batman in universe of The DCAU but we call him Batman Beyond for a reason. He’s a great character but he isn’t Bruce Wayne. The same thing happened when all many of The Robins got the mantle of Batman, even if the story was good eventually people wanted Bruce Wayne as Batman again and The Robins as The Robins. The beauty of legacy characters is that passing down the mantle/torch is inspiring when written well and can be entertaining based on how you handle the story & characters like how Batman Beyond & Into The Spiderverse did but the downside is that legacy characters aren’t they’re own characters. They are tied to the original or iconic versions and since those characters are number 1 for many, they’ll always be seen as secondary to them. This is why original characters usually have more potential then legacy characters. So when people say Miles Morales is Miles Morales & Peter Parker is Spider-Man , it isn’t racism, or bigotry it’s usually due to the fact that for many are fans of the original character before the legacy character. I personally have no issue with saying Miles Morales is Spiderman because like I said legacy characters aren’t inherently an issue for me I love legacy stories when done well, but in my mind I’m saying Miles Morales is a Spider-Man, not The Spider-Man, Just like I’d think Bucky Barnes & Sam Wilson become versions of Captain America, not that they are The Captain America, because Captain America in mind will always truly be Steve Rogers. The lesson we can learn here is that legacy stories can be well made and legacy characters can be interesting with hard work and good writing put in but eventually they’ll have to be sidekicks, partners basically secondary characters to the original or iconic versions that came before because they can never truly replace them for people. For a new character that you want to have their own status has to always be original because while legacy characters can be well made they’ll always just be legacy characters to people which is just another version. T’Challa was replaced by his sister as Black Panther people didn’t like that either and The Black Panther comics were going downhill at that point anyway. Legacy characters can be made and I’m behind them being made because I always loved legacy stories as a matter of fact I’m one of the few old comic book fans that believes you can make these new legacy characters in DC & Marcel good if you strip out all the modern wokeness and actually put great writing quality behind them but they can never fully replace the original or iconic characters and they have to be mainly side characters in that original or iconic Mythos they can still have solo stories but they have to tie back into that particular Mythos so while fans can enjoy these new characters and other new characters with better creative writing put in they can still enjoy the original and /or iconic characters that mean so much to them with better interesting creative writing. The only new characters that should fully have their own status like the originals and or Iconic ones should be the new original characters that have their own identity. If legacy characters transition from mantle sidekicks & secondary characters to their own full identities then the same applies and if they’re are characters that start off as new original characters and go to a mantle of an older original and or iconic character the same rule of side character/secondary/sidekicks applies. I believe that will solve the problem for many older and newer audiences not all but many. No more replacing, and no more changing or downgrading characters to replace them either. If you’re making a legacy character they need to be well written & interesting to be liked but sadly they’ll usually always be secondary to what came before. That’s the most likely scenario Now if your making a new character with they’re own legacy & mantle or taking a legacy character and giving them they’re own identity, legacy and mantle then the potential goes up especially with good writing and storytelling. There’s a reason Dick Grayson got more popular when as the first Robin he became Nightwing, or Jason Todd The Second Robin became The Redhood, even Tim Drake The Third Robin becoming Red Robin, or Barbara as Batgirl becoming Oracle. You could most likely have the potential to tell great stories with them in The Batman mantle with a legacy theme but if you try to write that they stay there forever people will loose interest & eventually they’ll just want Bruce Wayne back as Batman. Because he is The Batman. “As the indefatigable 92-year-old superhero conjurer and Marvel Comics chairman emeritus sees it, fan backlash up until this point hasn't so much been spurred on by racism as much as unyielding fealty to the source material. "They're outraged not because of any personal prejudice, Lee says. "They're outraged because they hate to see any change made on a series and characters they had gotten familiar with. In Spider-Man, when they got a new actor, that bothered them, even though it was a white actor. I don't think it had to do with racial prejudice as much as they don't like things changed.” “I wouldn't mind. if Peter Parker had originally been black. a Latino, an lndian or anything else that he stay that way. But we originally made him white. I dont see any reason to change that. It has nothing to do with being anti-gay, or anti-black, or anti-Latino, or anything like that. Latino characters should stay Latino. The Black Panther should certainly not be Swiss. I just see no reason to change that which has already been established when it's so easy to add new characters.” - Stan Lee
@joshualittle14792 жыл бұрын
I do like the concept of someone being Spider-Man after Peter's death in some other universe, and I enjoyed the version of Miles I saw in the Spiderverse movie. I agree that they need to work harder to differentiate him as a character and a hero from Perter Parker. Miguel O'Hara doesn't strike me as a Peter wannabe. Kind of like how Terry McGinnis was a different kind of Batman than Bruce in Batman Beyond. They really have to do some more to give him his own iconic feel in my opinion.
@trublgrl2 жыл бұрын
Some people need to be humiliated. It's the only way they learn.
@SuperCosmicMutantSquid2 жыл бұрын
All of this boils down to these guys just hating on Peter (or being told to hate him) because he's White and thinking Miles is owed his spot and popularity for being Black. None of this shit would happen if Miles were allowed to be his own character in the 616 universe now rather than Marvel trying so hard to replace Peter. His Ultimate story has weight where that version of Peter did die and Miles was handed a massive responsibility but in the mainline where Peter is still very much kicking, the best thing they could have done is just allow the kid to be his own damn thing but they constantly sell him on how he's 'Spiderman....BUT DIVERSE!' This is why I hate how these people handle non-White characters. In their hands, they're NOT characters. They're social statements. Miles could be a cool(er) character if he could be unhooked from the forced burden of being a walking social message for whatever the shit writer is obsessed with. Non-White characters are NOT protest props. Someone needs to tell these 'writers' this.
@ExeErdna2 жыл бұрын
Get most of the Spiders out of NY. Leave NY for Peter and Eddie Let the others do their own thing in other cities and then create rogues and supporting cast for them too. Like how they had all the "Captain America" in different cities (which was also a shitshow) they can get out of NY. It's sad black people are basically saying JUST GIVE MILES AGENCY these fucks going "but he's better anyway as is"
@SuperCosmicMutantSquid2 жыл бұрын
@@ExeErdna That makes it even funnier once you think about it. They can't even get a variety of Spiders out to other cities that need heroes. They all have to be clumped together in New York as if that's the only area where super hero stories can happen so you end up with a glut of the same hero type in the same area. And yes, you can argue that they could fight in 'neighborhoods' but even then when the only thing separating a neighborhood is a single block, you got too many damn spiders in the same damn place.
@Harrymation-productions2 жыл бұрын
Here’s an idea What if miles was a villain character, like an evil twist on Peter Parker.
@drjonesey52 жыл бұрын
That's racist, are you suggestion black means evil twisted version of White person? Wooooow ROFL jk
@Harrymation-productions2 жыл бұрын
@@drjonesey5 no, I thought of this idea because of the similarities between miles and Peter. So what if miles was used as a way to show the villain Peter could’ve been.
@DarsiPadilla2 жыл бұрын
Why not a villain character that is actually Peter Parker but he's rightfully sick of how the Marvel Universe constantly rewards his ass with misery after misery; being a mix of Peter's cynical side with Doomguy and Greek era Kratos? What? I hate how Marvel Comics treats Peter Parker's life as grief porn where he can never win.
@hughkelly35202 жыл бұрын
Andrew Smith: People fear what they don't understand and hate what they can't conquer.
@andresanguianozuniga67982 жыл бұрын
The obsession of that ppl for triying to rectify Miles' existence its Just one word: INSANITY.
@Michael_CDK2 жыл бұрын
I can't even remember how I found your channel, but I'm glad I did. Keep up the great work, mate.
@thisguydan2 жыл бұрын
"Yo Rippa, I saw Spiderverse and read Miles wiki page real quick so that pretty much makes me an expert, so lemme tell you why you're wrong."
@wrongthinker8432 жыл бұрын
He's technically correct. Miles is not black Peter. Miles is black Peter with less personality.
@maninthemask62752 жыл бұрын
The fact that the comics haven’t even touched on blade in forever shows it’s not about making it writing good black characters, (something I don’t care for you should just make good characters) it’s about replacing or overshadowing white characters with colored ones.
@Tyler_W2 жыл бұрын
@maninthemask6275 the extent to which the comics have used Blade sucks. They basically emasculate him.
@lordjoyous2 жыл бұрын
Dumb blacks am I right 😂
@SuperCosmicMutantSquid2 жыл бұрын
Black-Latino to be even more pedantic.
@SuperCosmicMutantSquid2 жыл бұрын
@hush HOLY SHIT
@777Godsgift7772 жыл бұрын
These people sure do love sloppy seconds of characters!!!
@Sweetestsadist2 жыл бұрын
He's the only superhero whose dead parental figure would've been a better choice to star in a comic.
@martinwinter42092 жыл бұрын
Well done Rippa, keep killing it. Miles is nothing more then an " Oh My God, I Can't Believe It's Not Butter ".
@jamesynfg2 жыл бұрын
Last time I was this early, manga wasn’t beating American produced graphic novels on American soil
@williamking2562 жыл бұрын
They actually call it Venomblast in the Spiderverse movie LOL
@65firered2 жыл бұрын
Just a thought but if you need multiple different interatations to fix a character maybe problem is the character themselves. People like the idea of Miles and the "fixed" versions of him. What does that tell you about the original character? He's fundamentally broken.
@Covid-pz9fi2 жыл бұрын
I love how man's said did you even watch the movie even tho the entire video covered the comic's and how they weren't selling
@Nemesis09212 жыл бұрын
All this was in the movie, they don't even pay attention in the movies smh
@JohnFinitee2 жыл бұрын
Well...that was embarrassing lmao keep crushing it Rippa! You're doing great things!
@wariodude1282 жыл бұрын
As a fan of Ghost Rider, I know a thing or two about two versions of a character being pretty much the same but with a different name. In fact, in the run of Ghost Rider that led into Ghost Riders Heaven's on Fire, they introduced the idea of a Ghost Rider in other countries with their own name and mount that happens to be on fire. I've also heard about Robbie Reyes due to the show Agents of SHIELD, but I'll reserve my judgement on him until I actually read the comics where he's the main character.
@umbrasunbro21422 жыл бұрын
Lol he didn’t even watch or pay attention to Spider-Verse. They call it Venom blast in there too
@sipsdrewshin9169 Жыл бұрын
Miles is a bland woke copycat. Marvel should be embarrassed they thought he could replace Peter in title and popularity, and about his movies that heads feature hoards of other unoriginal copycats and actively shamed the real Spiderman. They are hellbent on diluting and ruining Spiderman’s legacy.
@honestabe7373 Жыл бұрын
Agreed. I recently ran into a person that said he’s not a Spider-Man fan anymore for this same exact reason. The tokenization and the multiverse plot. And I will agree there’s WAY too many spidermen now and it’s ridiculous.
@MrZoichi2 жыл бұрын
If they are sending their best on this front: boy, that's embarrassing.
@folofus48152 жыл бұрын
I never read the comics and I knew all of this about miles already so this guy is just especially clueless lol
@NewbombTurk.2 жыл бұрын
Ah yes, the "Bilingual is a superpower" guy....
@Achieme2 жыл бұрын
The moment I heard he doesn't have venom blast I was crying laughing at the sheer stupidity and I hardly read comics anymore even the wiki where they get their knowledge from states he has venom blast
@patrickjennings4312 жыл бұрын
Don't you just love it when weirdos kept shilling for tokenized spiderman and gets destroyed by rippa
@DgardsGaming2 жыл бұрын
i'm just going to say this, they already had a Biracial Spider Man before miles, his name was Miguel O'Hero the Irish Mexican SpiderMan 2099. 😂🤣
@VentrexTheXVth2 жыл бұрын
But black is worth more dIvErSiTy points
@DgardsGaming2 жыл бұрын
@@VentrexTheXVth True, just pointing it out.
@KeiosKod2 жыл бұрын
The more I listened to that guy’s responses, the more pathetic it got. Heck, it’s not like I haven’t used a wiki to look up characters I have no interest in, but the fact that I’m not a fan and still know a lot more about Miles than this guy just from that really shows how very little the character really meant to this weirdo. Guy couldn’t even be bothered to actually read a wiki entry, he was probably just looking it up in a rush as he responded to you.
@DarthBalsamic2 жыл бұрын
You should update your slogan to "monetize the hate and the stupid." Lol
@rubinx85892 жыл бұрын
Woke fools have to be right about something, because they hate being wrong! But this is life, you will be wrong somethings, but if your not willing to learn. You will be wrong all the time! 😔✊️
@chilomine8392 жыл бұрын
Reply guys: TO THE LAST MAN! THIS HILL NO MATTER WHAT!
@spee68262 жыл бұрын
Those dipshits are just Wikipedia Warriors.
@ravencomiccollector40192 жыл бұрын
Why wont they just give Miles a new moniker? Even Gwen has one. She went from Spider Woman to Ghost Spider. I find her way more interesting than Miles. Who is just a token Spiderman, thats it. At least She travels the multiverse. Wether you find that fun or not, at least she has something that no other Spider family member has had before. I could be wrong since I only know her.
@LordFoxxyFoxington2 жыл бұрын
OG Peter Parker will always be the true Spider-Man, and nothing will change that. Every other version, male or female, is just a cheap knock off.
@patrickjennings4312 жыл бұрын
That's right
@maninthemask62752 жыл бұрын
Honestly though Ben Riley was kinda interesting.
@byronrush98022 жыл бұрын
Honestly the other versions of Spider-Man work because they're not trying to be him they're their own person in their universe where they belong and they're on heroes, Miles should have stayed in his own universe now he's in a 616 he needs to get his own name and his own villains, I have no problem with legacy characters when they're written well AKA the bat family some of the best written legacy characters of all time
@Liqo3152 жыл бұрын
Facts bro 🕸🕷🤵🏻
@vectorequinox62022 жыл бұрын
@@byronrush9802It helps that DC actually acknowledges the robins are all different people and whether they're with batman or not they have their own quirks and specific interactions with some having their own rogues gallery or even teams.
@ReeceThaDon2 жыл бұрын
These casuals have the audacity to act like they know more than the veterans. It's like a dude changing his first brake on a tire, then to turn around and try to tell a seasoned mechanic how to fix a car. Insane.
@sebastianhoward33042 жыл бұрын
Ultimate Spider-Man with Peter and death of Peter were some of the biggest selling comics ever so of course this guy doesn't even know they exist.
@splyketv73862 жыл бұрын
I would ahve asked him if he saw the Spiderverse since he claims Peter Parker wasn't in Miles Universe
@licarto72 жыл бұрын
also miles morales from the movie is inspired by teenage Peter from spectacular, is more close to him than his own version in the comics
@nooctip2 жыл бұрын
Miles Morales "I became Spiderman after Peter died." This idiot. "There is no Peter in Miles universe."
@WaxTheDolphin2 жыл бұрын
Miles Morales should team up with Captain Diabetes and fight Professor Chaos.
@Zarreth2 жыл бұрын
The ultimate universe freaking started with Ultimate Spider-Man...smh
@Yarblocosifilitico2 жыл бұрын
I actually don't mind Miles (from Spider-verse and the games), but these 'Miles is Spider-Man' people are making me hate the character with all my guts. To them, any criticism is due to racism, even if it comes from guys like Eric July or Just Some Guy... They really are eating whatever bs the big corporations puts in their plate. It's so pathetic.
@ExeErdna2 жыл бұрын
Virtue Signallers for Miles suck because they do not look at any hindsight that Marvel themselves wasted 10 years keeping him in Peter's Shadow no matter what. Sure the movie and game did him justice because they made him human which is something the comics refuse to do. It kinda reminds of Damian Wayne and how he's kept this 4 foot nothing runt eventhough everybody around him gotten older. Miles is still treated as a kid eventhough he's been around during a lot of events. You can't tell me he's still in high school? or under 18 still?
@ryantudor92302 жыл бұрын
I've seen a quote from another youtuber who in my opinion is right. He said "Peter Parker is spiderman, and Miles Morales is Miles." I can agree with that.
@sheets752 жыл бұрын
"Anyone can take up a mantle of a hero." No, they really can't. If anyone can do it, then it degrades the entire concept and fantasy of a hero as a singular, extraordinary person. Instead of having an employment line of people waiting to be the next Captain America or whatever, create some NEW CHARACTERS.
@Harrison111062 жыл бұрын
I can't speak to the comics per se anymore (I walked away from Marvel with the Secret Empire arc), but in the animated movies Miles Morales seems to have come into his own... to a degree. He's still "Miles Morales Spider Man", but he does have some unique things to his character apart from the slight power differences with the REAL Spider Man.
@tomteacher58852 жыл бұрын
trust me, we're not sending our best, lol
@tesharakhiru37202 жыл бұрын
They claim miles was hit back in the day , it is not yo..
@Likexner2 жыл бұрын
I cant take seriously anyone who genuinely belives that "Lady Thor" should be a thing.
@SixerIverson042 жыл бұрын
Indeed. Rippa I enjoyed your livestream yesterday on Tuesday Nights Main Event with the G&G crew. Looking forward to seeing you and Lady Rippa on Mario Kart on Christmas night!
@mr.badguy85002 жыл бұрын
Let me add something for ya Rippa. Miles Morales came to replace Spider-Man in Ultimate Universe yup. Then they revived Peter Parker again under the premise that the Goblin Serum that give him the powers made him immortal and decided to run away with MJ and abandon Gwen and Aunt May. Because they didn't have faith on Miles Morales. I personally liked what Miles Morales initially, but as time passes Marvel really crapped on him as a character and worse made him into some wack ass Token to parade around.
@CoolSs2 жыл бұрын
to those people . Miles Morales being Miles Morales is like finding out that Santa is not real .
@Moose_vk2 жыл бұрын
Bruh mainstream studios has fumbled the bag with so many characters that it's absolutely insane... I am 1000% convinced that you could completely randomise a bunch of comic and animation characters with an algorithm based on corny superhero tropes and clichés, and they'd be more successful (in terms of actual metrics like sales and profit, with money that is doesn't come from bankrupting comic sellers) with the average normie audience and longtime fans alike. These people fr allergic to making money and intentionally fail cause they consist of hyper-woke marxists who think success through profit is evil or something...
@rjlundholm892 жыл бұрын
Its nice to know that the nerd/geek dialect still eludes normies/wokies.
@laffing_hwhitee6 ай бұрын
The difference is the love you invested into comics ; they use it as a means to correct & control people -