Weirdo lies about politics and manga

[@barryon8706]

So their argument is, "Hey, they're just as bad as we are!" Not a great selling point, even if they were being honest.

[@sagejay9816]

and they use examples that arent even true for manga which is the funnier part.

[@SergioLeonardoCornejo]

It is a false equivalence fallacy. Purposefulu malicious.

[@jormungandr4690]

Not even he is reaching. That would be like a mass murderer saying the guy who is jaywalking is evil.

[@razorsfury6519]

What I hate is these weirdos conflate having characters with a diverse political perspective and pushing the writer's personal political ideology.

[@gabev5973]

In manga, characters preach to each other; in comics, the author preaches to the reader, through the characters.

[@SergioLeonardoCornejo]

They do that to gaslight you into acceptinh their propaganda.

[@AdamRhodes536]

They literally can't tell the difference between Metal Gear Solid's anti-nuclear stance and Shao Kahn saying "Make Outworld Great Again"

[@etherealdreamerart]

Even if some manga does have politics in it, it is written in an entertaining and noncondenscending way.

[@shadowofthenorthstar989]

exactly and politics are usually about the world they're in

[@wrongthinker843]

Leftists are never honest with their arguments. There is a big difference between a work of fiction exploring political themes and one that tries to force the author's current-day political ideology on the potential reader.

[@undonebassist8783]

100 percent. One Piece and Attack on Titan both dabble in politics and it’s done very very well that isn’t just beating you over the head with it.

[@Bran_Nuthin]

@@undonebassist8783 Gundam has done it well for decades.

[@krownos7037]

We've all seen politics and stuff in anime over the years. But it's not placid on a baseball bat and beating you to death with it like these amateur story writers at Marvel do with American politics. Japanese writers and artists actually have real life experience to know exactly what inspires them to write great stories. And a lot of these stories are all about the fantasy side of things which is what people want to escape from reality.

[@fenrirtheicewolf2019]

When people say "no politics in manga," they mean "no obvious, preachy, forced politics." Having a theme is not what people hate. It's bad storytelling -- and or stupid lectures on "late-stage capitalism" from tankie writers who think killing the night manager at a 7-11 is funny!

[@shadowofthenorthstar989]

and even when there's politics it's usually politics about the world they're in and its an interesting read unlike western stuff

[@SparkZ009]

@@shadowofthenorthstar989 100%. There's politics in many mainstream shows like Attack on Titan, Naruto, Bleach, Hunter x Hunter. They're never trying to mock or make a caricature of real life politics, just using politics as a means to convey a strategic battle or world building, and its freaking great.

[@shadowofthenorthstar989]

@@SparkZ009 exactly

[@Bran_Nuthin]

@@SparkZ009 Gundam is another great example.

[@shadowofthenorthstar989]

@@Bran_Nuthin how could I forget Gundam definitely

[@blackairforceenergyincarna6682]

The Yamato character from One Piece IS NOT TRANSGENDER. That is basically how these group of weirdos interpret the character. She calls herself Oden because she was moved at a young age by his actions, she calls herself a man ONLY because her greatest inspiration, Oden was one. Not because she personally wants to be one. She doesn’t hide or alter her biological gender traits, she is officially listed as a FEMALE character of the One Piece verse and each time the Japanese refer to her they refer to her as HER/SHE. Basically weirdos are reaching at anything they can. The only genuine character you could say is actually transgender in One Piece is Okiku. Edit: I forgot there’s literally an entire island of trans and non-binary people so no Okiku isn’t the only trans character. Point is, Yamato isn’t among them.

[@5Picoseconds]

This.

[@magichannel3495]

YES, THIS IS WHAT I MEAN. Bro I was rolling my fucking eyes when ppl where expecting Yamato to be trans and laughing my ass off when they found out SHE wasn't. Like you can't win with these weirdos, they're so used to Western writers pandering to them that now they expect Japanese creators to do the same exact shit, its ridiculous.

[@5Picoseconds]

@@magichannel3495 Mother's Basement called Yamato "best boy" in his One Piece openings ranked video. Now of course, that could be a joke like how people will sometimes call a trap best girl and say sometimes it takes a real man to be best girl. Knowing him though it was probably legit.

[@magichannel3495]

@@5Picoseconds what the hell is even Mother's Basement bro?😂 Like I'm confused, how does that make the claim that Yamato is "supposedly trans" any more valid? Like if even the creators EXPLICITLY STATE she is a female then its already locked my guy.

[@5Picoseconds]

@@magichannel3495 ummm... what? Please reread my comment I think you misunderstood what I said lol

[@TheGloryXros]

For the record, Yamato from One Piece is NOT transgender. That's just people reaching in order to get some "DuVeRsUhTy" She's a girl, GET OVER IT, WEIRDOS.

[@22thedon90]

It’s crazy because there is actually a lot of transgenders in One Piece but they refuse to talk about them. One piece is prolly one of the most diverse shows or medians out there but none of these weirdos actually talk about how it’s well written and diverse.

[@jamestoney6599]

Same idiots trying to convince everyone that Nico Robin was dark skin/black due to an error of colors on the animation side. The same happened for Vegeta in Dragonball Z where he debuted with red hair.

[@TheGloryXros]

@@22thedon90 RIGHT?!! Bon Clay?! Ivankov?! But NOOOOOO, they always gotta reach for more....

[@pasalasaga]

God I love these anime

[@mahmuttoker3418]

She is not transgender she is ODEN :D

[@StrongStyleFiction]

You can put social and political ideas into your story and have it be engaging, as long as you are treating the reader like a human being. You are engaging them with an idea. It's not what comics or hollywood is doing now. The problem isn't politics, that's the symptom. The problem is the narcissism of the people who are writing the comic books. They don't want to engage you with ideas, they want to show you how much better they are than you.

[@tonyromano6220]

Bingo

[@marsjokes]

One could say "narcissism" is a symptom too.

[@andresrodriguez3708]

Much Respect.

[@suru7064]

You hit the mark my friend

[@andrehashimoto8056]

Literature Devil tips for writting: Write honestly, don't go pulling a "red Skull is J.P." and think most people will agree or feel your story is good. Woke Writters are dishonest propagandists AT BEST.... just garbage at worst

[@AlienBunnyRabbit]

As a life-long anime fan, the social themes are paired with excellent/interesting storytelling. This year, I watched Yuri On Ice which featured homosexual themes, but the overall theme was finding passion in what you do and building confidence in yourself. Thats universal and for that, I enjoyed Yuri On Ice. Heck Hetalia dealt with real life historical things/stereotypes but it was done in a comedic fashion and everybody got made fun of for whatever reason.

[@Betuor]

Japan truly was a grower and not a shower.

[@winry2357]

I’ve only ever really seen anime push the political ideas of things like “freedom good” “dictator bad” “genocide bad” “war is complicated”. They don’t tell you who to vote for or how you should see the Japanese empirical family or whatever. That’s the big difference.

[@winry2357]

Also, his reading of OPM is not really correct. It’s not about society being overworked. It’s a jab at Superman. OPM is overpowered and no longer finds joy in what he does. He’s too good and there’s no challenge for him anymore, so there’s no joy in it. He doesn’t feel satisfied anymore. If it were about society being overworked, the episode with the NEETs would’ve portrayed them as good guys, not as selfish losers like they were. I think it was the fourth episode of season one. It was really entertaining and the overall lesson was that you can’t get something for nothing, you need to work to survive. The leader ended up crying about wanting to try to get a job at the end. This dude’s article was annoyingly bad, pretty sure he didn’t actually watch any of the shows he was talking about.

[@Bran_Nuthin]

"War is complicated" 🤔 Gundam fan? 🤔

[@winry2357]

@@Bran_Nuthin what I’ve seen has been really good. I need to watch some more. Pretty much all anime about war that I’ve watched was like that though. Some guy tried saying that by me liking Mustang from FMA was me justifying genocide, but I think he’s the perfect example of how war is difficult. Sure, killing all of those people was terrible, he was psychologically scarred by what he had to do, but what were his other options? It’s not about justifying anything, it’s just “war is complicated”. No one involved is ever entirely good or entirely evil, just complicated.

[@Bran_Nuthin]

@@winry2357 Have you see Iron Bloided Orphans? Mustang was one of my favorite FMA characters too.

[@winry2357]

@@Bran_Nuthin I haven’t yet. I started Wing a while back, I need to finish it. I’ve never really been sure where you’re supposed to start with Gundam anyway, or if they’re all separate stories.

[@--Sama-]

Having political content in a story in some mangas is not the same as having an agenda in all your products.The most important fact is that manga don't insult people, western SJW comicbooks/movies/shows/videogames attack customers because of their race, gender, sexual orientation or religion, manga don't change characters who were "evil" and fix them with the "good" identity, they don't portray millions of people like garbage. Their main goal is giving the fans what they want and not lecturing them and forcing them to be like them. Japanese authors are always grateful, polite and respect the fans, they don't insult you because you don't agree with them about something, they don't harass you and try to get you fired. People love mangas like Naruto, Bleach or Dragon Ball because their moral values are pro family, friendship and never give up, not about your skin color or how the millions of people who voted the last president are evil or destroying your life because you don't write pronouns in your profile.

[@MrConredsX]

Yeah, the Western comics literally do propaganda. Portraying Jordan Peterson as Red Skull and Trump as another bad guy has no longer anything to do with escapism. This makes me cringe like portrayal of black people in Birth of a Nation because the agenda is so very obvious and the creator doesnt want you to think or reflect, just accept certain personas as evil and think like that after you finish reading/watching the medium

[@jmw1982blue]

Dattebayo!

[@TheYetixOUTx]

Uh while I get what youre saying. There are definitely some insulting depictions made from "cultural" difference and thinking the Japanese race is superior to others. You can find it anywhere its not isolated to white people. There are definitely depictions of a whole country being dirty and stupid so dont kid yourself.

[@--Sama-]

@@TheYetixOUTx We are not talking about the same thing. All countries portray themselves "better" than others or are sometimes "disrespectful" to other cultures and they exaggerate negative aspects of them to moke them. French people portray people from Spain that way with their "Africa begins in the Pyrenees", people from Spain do that with South Americans, portuguese and "guiris", South Americans do that to "gringos" and "españolitos", english do that to the "arrogant and rudes" french, etc. I don't kid myself, you know that japanese products aren't focused on insulting people or judging people because of their race/gender/political view/sexual orientation, etc. They fall into stereotypes sometimes? yes, like every country does, is not the same that directly insulting people like SJWs do in that agressive, massive and constant way. You're comparing a child stealing a candy to a serial killer.

[@ironspyder-db8fd]

@@TheYetixOUTx Whoa where did u go there?

[@TCNDRGA]

No matter how often or how loudly they scream "manga is just as political!!", they never once stop to ask themselves that if manga is just as political then we do people like manga and not the dog shit they make?

[@jayrobitaille2402]

I agree, that makes this whole point even more reaching, as it makes one ponder even harder why they are getting their asses handed to them in the open market. This looks even worse when you look at how people are still allowed to buy what they want to buy (pending whatever draconian COVID policy comes next) and they are preferring to buy translated foreign stuff released after its original run over original run domestic works.

[@ForeverKnightmare]

This is so true. Watching the video I was thinking like if they saying it's always been political and Americans just didn't get it...doesn't that mean they are the ones doing something wrong since people enjoyed the product without even knowing it was? Subtlety is the main thing that these preachy western products lack. Nobody likes to be talked down to/lectured. Make people think for themselves without telling them like your their parent.

[@jayrobitaille2402]

@@ForeverKnightmare "Make people think for themselves" Not sure how much people actually "think". "The problem isn't that Johnny can't read. The problem isn't even that Johnny can't think. The problem is that Johnny doesn't know what thinking is; he confuses it with feeling."-Thomas Sowell

[@normanbaker7831]

Legend of the Galactic Heroes is a great series that is literally a space opera galactic war between a Republic (Democracy) and an Empire (Dictatorship/aristocracy). You have 'heroes' on both sides who fight the war and you have extremist and 'downsides' to both sides. The empire has a corrupt nobility, inept commanders who are promoted due to lineage/money, etc. There is political infighting, assassinations, and a weak Emperor. The republic has corrupt business and extremist 'pro-war' hawks that assassinate anyone who dares to consider peace. And that is just the tip of the iceberg for both sides. There is also a 3rd party neutral merchant side who sells weapons to both sides and encourages the fighting. Huge amounts of politics but it doesn't say 'one system is good, the other is bad'. Instead manga usually has 'all systems' have potential to be bad/corrupt and it is PEOPLE who make it that way and it is people you root for. I think the left views the government/system as inherently good (but right wing people or white people make it bad?) when gov. has always been a 'necessary evil'.

[@ElGreco15]

The characters also put their ideals on the line when challenged. They have to navigate results vs morals. Do you deal with an enemy to get a good done? Do you fight a friend to get the result helping more people? The blue ray set is so expensive but I want it so badly.

[@sagejay9816]

yep

[@evilblackcat6357]

A good piece of art makes you think as opposed to a propaganda piece that _tells_ you what to think.

[@thebugledaily6805]

As much as it pains me to see a pro spider menace propaganda movie succeed. It makes me smile seeing sjws upset about it.

[@fenrirtheicewolf2019]

Dear God... Jameson what are you saying... Spider-Man is on the side of the SJWa hell he's talking about doing gender swaps.

[@wrongthinker843]

JJ Jameson - the redemption arc

[@thebugledaily6805]

@@wrongthinker843 no redemption needed. I'm right about spider menace being a villian!!

[@alexghost2099]

I love how the screen rant article is reaching hard for these “politics” in manga.

[@Omega068]

10:00 They are reaching in exactly the way they were likely taught to in their English class, which is a combination of seeing their own meaning in the work rather than the author's meaning and then being given assignment after assignment of twisting every literature work they study into a piece that advances the message.

[@AnimaVox_]

Yeah, I'm not a fan of the whole 'death of the author' schtick either. I'm one of those people that can have a personal interpretation of something in fiction while simultaneously considering its creator's intent. _Some_ things can be left up to interpretation, in which case I try to logic my way through a plausible explanation/headcanon; but other things are _explicity_ portrayed in a _specific_ way that the author wants, and I'm not about to handwave that away, but rather think about why the work's creator made it that way. This is one of those things I noticed about the vitriolic hatred for the Star Wars prequels: people REFUSING to engage with the story on its own terms and instead projecting their idea of what _should_ be happening, all based on personal taste and totally disregarding what the creator is trying to do.

[@thegoatix9203]

As Stan lee's said, the politics is in the background not the forefront. And same is said with characters. If you want a gay character fine, just don't have that the only thing about them. Make is a trait, not was the character is. THATS what I want as a reader, and most I think feel that way too

[@thelast9021]

A good story has subtle themes that don't overtake the story.

[@nightwishfan1991]

This is them trying to cut the legs out from under manga thinking it will slow down its growth. Not happening. That horse has already left the stables.

[@nothanks3236]

Can I just say I've been diving into anime lately and thoroughly enjoying what I'm finding. I'd liked anime previously, had been exposed to it many moons ago with your basic Akira and Vampire Hunter D and Wicked City way back in the day. Watched Cowboy Bebop in the early 00's. But man has it exploded in the last 15 years, I've been binging series non-stop for a couple of months now. Pretty much every series I'm watching is based off a manga.

[@SaberInferno]

I've totally forgotten about Vampire Hunter D- man I feel old now

[@nothanks3236]

@@SaberInferno You and me both, chief. LOL

[@dokuhlsd1753]

Outlaw Star

[@mars___sumner]

Sounds like someone else stayed up late back in the day to catch those on Sci Fi channel. And then later got to enjoy anime on Toonami

[@nothanks3236]

@@dokuhlsd1753 Haven't heard of that one, I'll check it out. I'm absolutely open to suggestions. I just finished Black Lagoon last night.

[@ragmanwtb1941]

These people project meaning into things so hard. The most present themes in OPM are that life without challenge is boring, hard work and persistence are all it takes to be better than you are, and that the most heroic thing you can do is your best, despite your limitations. My Hero Academia is not about the stress society puts on young people. Its about about the ability of people to learn from their predecessors, improve upon that knowledge base through hard work and experience, and combine efforts to solve the problems that the previous generations couldn't. you could also say that because of the main characters struggles when he had no power, he was ultimately better when he attained. But these people only seem to find meaning in identifying with their victimhood, when manga/anime is, more often then not, about overcoming victimhood.

[@Dr._Atom]

Wait, they bring out OPM? where's the politics in that??? 😅😅😅

[@BradStarnes]

When I say I don't want politics/social issues in the media I consume I mean real world stuff. I feel like anyone being honest about it would understand that from the start. These assholes, however, are not honest. They've never been honest. They've always been disingenuous idiots. I remember a while back when some "big name" social justice person came out trying to say it doesn't matter what anyone says or thinks Samus Aran (Metroid) was trans. Pretty sure someone from Nintendo actually addressed it and just said no, she's not. The best thing to do with these idiots is ignore them and, if you must interact, mock them. These kinds of people need to be laughed out of the industry.

[@jaymethodus3421]

No. Examples need to be made. They must be made to fear the ramifications. To these people, the only truth is power. This is no laughing matter anymore.

[@sagejay9816]

yep people want something that is awesome and fun if people want to hear about politics or narcissistic talking point they could just turn on the news and argue with people online. They saved upwards of $80+ doing that instead of buying there terrible comic book.

[@Cleron_O_Andarilho]

Normally manga and anime talk about the politics inside the world of the manga, focusing on the story. Americans just preach and shame

[@aster4jaden]

Exactly, to make it worse. The people preaching are often the ones committing crimes or want to.

[@RaveSault]

In some cases when a manga/anime *does* talk about real world problems, it's not hamfisted and it's more often than not relevant to what's happening to their world. Heck, even when they bring in political figure, it's usually with no context at all. Oh, you're rollerskating team needs some help? Here, have an Obama. Vampire loli wants to show her dominatrix side? Here, have a Trump as her maso slave. it's wacky.

[@jackmcslay]

There's a clear difference between something being political and having politics play a major role in the story. Gurren Lagann, One Piece, Gundam, Neon Genesis Evangelion, Full Metal Alchemist all have politics play a major part in the story, and to grasp the message you have to pay attention and put together what happens in the story and why. Meanwhile, the typical modern comic is about as subtle as a typical WW2 propaganda cartoon, painting the other side as bad while giving no explanation as to why and/or creating strawmen and making up stuff against the side they don't like.

[@GingerBeard31]

Love that your first mention was JJK that manga/anime is amazing. In a recent chapter they go into the politics in the Japanese justice system and how it impacted a character and shaped his powers. In manga I notice it only gets pollical if its a character that's a politician or in that sphere or if it's used to move some part of the story along. In comics hero's are basically billboards for pollical messaging.

[@redmuskratt]

The Gundam animes were an excellent example of how politics can be the backbone of the story if done correctly. I need to dig out my vhs and my box of anime tapes.

[@Bran_Nuthin]

When someone brings up politics in anime Gundam is always my first thought. Been doing it well for decades.

[@redmuskratt]

@@Bran_Nuthin it's hard to talk about politics from all sides and be fair to all sides. Gundam mastered telling a balanced war story.

[@Bran_Nuthin]

@@redmuskratt Wars are fought by humans, and humans are well... human. Gundam always makes sure you know there's good and bad people on both sides.

[@69SalterStreet]

My hero academia (at least in the anime, not sure about manga) is NOT about the "pressure" to be exceptional. It's about wanting to find what's exceptional about yourself and maximizing that ability/talent to serve others and the common good. This guy sucks at recognizing the themes if a narrative.

[@Richiedoesmc]

One punch man is literally about a guy with Superman levels of strength being bored at never being able to be challenged in a fight. Literally killing all the bad guys in one punch.

[@Dr._Atom]

Superman if he's not holding back

[@boshyboy1796]

jujutsu kaisen has the underlying theme of the higher ups being a bunch of old farts being set in they're ways but doesn't beat you over the head with it. The fact that to kill a mocking bird was more subtle with themes of race then modern comics just goes to show the lack of skill the "writers" possess.

[@Newworld-gk6us]

Manga always has politics in their stories, it just that Manga politics focus on the issues problems within their stories.

[@fachrezaaz4004]

When manga portray real life character they usually treat the real life character with respect. For example in that article, if you compare Trump in Death Note and Trump in Marvel you can see that Trump is treated like a genuine character not some parody of Joker or MODOK, he is portrayed as the president of the united states which he is when that Death Note chapter published.

[@umbrasunbro2142]

It’s funny that he’s reaching so far: One Punch man is just supposed to be a gag. It’s about a Shonnen protagonist who’s at the end of his series plopped into the beginning of his series (the author’s explanation)

[@Dr._Atom]

Yeah, though OPM itself is not a shonnen

[@umbrasunbro2142]

@@Dr._Atom yeah, I said shonnen, but I shouldn’t have should have just been “anime”.

[@bigevilshark1958]

It's especially bad when these people talk about the politics in manga thing when fucking Monster has Neo-Nazis, and in no way shape and form did I see Urasawa try to hit conservatives over the head with a metaphorical bat. Thing is, they had a purpose in the Monster story and it works really well because Urasawa is the GOAT

[@AdamRhodes536]

If there was a Hollywood adaptation made today, those Neo-Nazis would be saying "Make America Great Again" and "Let's Go, Brandon"

[@bigevilshark1958]

@@AdamRhodes536 Well the show takes place in Germany during the 1980s, so I'm not so sure of that, but I get your point hahahaha

[@theecharmingbilly]

"mach Amerika wieder großartig!" "Lass uns gehen Brandon!" Ich echen schpiel gutentag vogel wiener schnitzel! IBM and Die Glocke! Love ya Germs!!

[@polskri1747]

Okay so here's the difference: Examples of Politics in both mediums Attack on Titan: - Political and historical struggle between the Marleyans with other nations and Eldians that caused them in infighting for millennium until King fritz decided to end it by fleeing in Paradis Island. Superman 2021 and other comics: - Suddenly they were actually gay and began to explore their gender role and messaging people using the characters on how Patriarchy is a virus and toxic in our society and equality should be enforced with this and that. The difference on how they treat politics is that the Japanese comic with the mangaka use politics, economics or any similart to that as an extensive part for the progression of the story and that's it, not some sort of a tool to be used to virtue signal the readers on how their beliefs or politics are wrong and should subscribe to their politics instead. I like how they created this article pointing out that Manga has politics as if that's new tO the readers. They literally just exposed themselves on how desperate they are by gaslighting the supposed competitor and that they didn't really understand on what the people are trying to say with them. Congratulations 👏 for exposing How clueless you are.

[@ttexasty13]

I have moved almost exclusively over to reading manga over western comics. They know how to design interesting characters, flesh out great plot lines and tend to never push any of their opinions down your throat. The creators just want their work to be loved and shared. Almost every manga ends or begins with a note from the mangaka, which really helps form a connection between reader and creator.

[@milestrombley1466]

They are still attacking manga because they want their readers to buy their shitty ass books. 😑

[@igodreamer7096]

Reaching and lies all over, what clown. Manga readers know better that those editors on Marvel/DC

[@randalripley8381]

Grew up a diehard (borderline obsessive) fan of both comic books & manga/anime. In my early 30's now. Still consume anime and manga like I always have. Couldn't give two shits about the comic books or affiliated works coming out today.

[@derrickcrawford1081]

What about comicsgate?

[@randalripley8381]

@@derrickcrawford1081 Given the narrative around comicsgate (true or not) I would say that I see no issue with people boycotting or simply not purchasing products they do not want, and allocating that money to things they do. I'm not personally going to consume or promote something simply for being non-SJW. But I will happily pour my money into great story telling, world building, and character development. It's the biggest reason why I still consume anime/manga while keeping my comic book consumption to just after Civil War/Early 52 and before.

[@ChandlerVanFossen]

I guess cuz Donald Trump, Barack Obama, and Hilary Clinton showed up in Baki, that must mean it’s political! …Jesus Christ, these people.

[@robertherberg9595]

Good writing is good entertainment. Even if you oppose the writers position. Political hacks are cheap and plentiful, but have no game..

[@MsGhoulz]

It's impossible for these activist writers to NOT virtue signal for clout. Their cult mentality demands it.

[@bigjohn2811]

Manga handles politics in a philosophical manner. US comics does politics in a manner such as "muh Orange Man bad".

[@analuciasequeiracastro9132]

These woke people have no idea what manga and anime are about. By the way, AOC could perfectly be a tokenized Red Omega.

[@downnice95]

Manga having politics keeps it related to politics IN UNIVERSE not putting real life politics in the stories

[@anthonygarcia8749]

In other words shit that mirrors real life but isn't exactly, really

[@Nexuish]

Edit after watching: talking about politics in manga and anime and NOT defaulting to Gundam? Lol this article can get out Anime and manga actually prove you can involve politics without talking down to your audience ( which is the root problem with political stories in western media ). One of the most common themes I’ve seen in manga I read is talent vs hard work, and the best ones show that both have limits but the hard worker usually has more determination to overcome challenges. Manga also has a sense of humor, political or otherwise ( mostly otherwise tbf ) so there’s that

[@trymv1578]

He's obviously jumping on all the popular stuff to try to win brownie points. Gundam is on a lull in America atm.

[@richardduncan2954]

It pisses me off that Marvel and DC have such a high budget and still hire these hacks that cant write. And the people who are talented and good people leave because the terrible workplace.

[@thegreywanderer8427]

American presidents have made appearances in some manga & anime, Trump too. But these aren't usually done as part of internal US politics, usually it's about the Japan-US politics or just a general nudge that the series acknowledges that Japan is not the entire world. Marxists did quite poorly in Japan back in the day, the socialist party there going extinct in 1996.

[@lordshura9717]

So let me guess, Goku taking down the Red Ribbon Army as a kid was Toriyama's play on "Anti-Capitalism". Good Grief.

[@genericnamehere7602]

Konatsu from Ranma is a lesson in toxic feminism. The same can be found in I My Me Strawberry Eggs...I know, weird name. But...The MC goes in drag to prove a point to a outright hostile misandristic, man-hating principal than men can be good teachers too. Western "critics" of anime are full of shit. What they really want is control

[@adamfox9651]

I remember seeing occasional political asides in Marvel books as a kid in the '70s. Those sequences always bored the Hell out of me. I specifically remember an issue of Godzilla where Gabe and Dum Dum are in a SHIELD copter having a non-sequitur argument about race relations. It was a snooze.

[@christopherhugle8473]

Keep up the great work on your channel 👍 keep hustling

[@MrsHyde1018]

Anyone else notice there’s an article pointing out that Rei Ayaname in 3.0+1.0 is confirmed non binary? 🤣🤣 can you imagine being so delusional that you think Rei is anything but female. Her and Karou are supposed to be Adam and Eve, you dolts. 😂😭

[@badasstasticusbadass4908]

The reason of why Trump made an appereance in the Death Note one shot manga was because the owner of the Death Note was selling the book, everyone wanted to buy the book, even other presidents including Winnie Poh, in the end, Trump was the one who got the Death Note, however, the rules were changed by a Shinigami that stated that anyone who used the Death Note will die, so in the end Trump never uses the Book, but nobody knows about that rule except the Shinigami that delivered the Death Note to Trump and orange man himself, he gets the Death Note as some sort of "last warning" weapon. In the manga it makes sense that Trump appears there because the world of Death Note is the same world as ours, but the MF who is claiming that everything is political in manga don't f*cking read the material before comming to conclusions.

[@Chordus_Gaius]

No Propaganda in Weebism

[@stayalivefan]

The One Piece Yamato situation really annoys me... and I didn't realize it was the translator making it appear to be trans rights propaganda

[@greedthesavage9551]

I'm not sure about the official translations, but even some fan translations were doing that. Especially during the first chapters of her introduction.

[@ALDAL]

that guy tought that I was goint to pay 5 dollars to know he hates trump?

[@thesasoriphoenix]

I don't mind politics in entertainment to be honest. I just want the politics to be in the context of their world, not ours!

[@Sakuma_san]

in my opinion I think more that one punch man is firstly about getting to good and reaching the top with no challenge left where you start to get numb because excitement comes from competition and secondly its about nevermind how good you are, even if you are the best, institution (like school) work in such a dumb way where true potential and merit is mostly overlooked and/or ignored because either no one knows you or you failed in one single task which brings down your remarkable traits

[@laworder6637]

My gosh for the 100th time, yamato is not trans... She just admires oden to the point She wants to be him as in.. “LIKE HIM”

[@Stresslvls99]

The best political messages in mediums are universal to humanity.

[@rickymcn1]

"Readers who are not politically savvy just didn't see it in manga" Counterpoint: You can see the political agenda in western comics even if you are as dumb as a bag of rocks. So which company has the better writers?

[@bio-weaponn5576]

Ok ScreenRant you're basically just saying that not only is Manga better than western comics but they're also have better politics too.

[@reabright7307]

This is exactly why I started reading manga and watching anime. I always used entertainment like movies and books as an escape from stresses in the real world. When the stress from the real world like politics is in all the entertainment created it gets exhausting. In anime/manga even if there are politics involved (which is not common anyway) it’s not real world politics. It’s the politics in that world that have impact on the characters and story. Japanese authors focus more on story instead of trying to push a political agenda onto the readers. It’s just nice to be able to escape to another world and not worry about what’s going on in the real world for a little while.

[@Monty2289]

Also I cannot get over this. Yamato is not transgender. She is only a "man" in so far that she idolizes and wants to be a PARTICULAR person (who is a man). She's not trans. She's a cosplayer at best and an Oden chuunibyou at worse.

[@bathysphere1070]

I can't think of a single anime I've seen that was largely political or any that even had slight political content. If there is any deeper content it is philisophical or psychological, like in the NGE series.

[@JakeWerkmeister]

Is Screenrant even THAT sophisticated? I figured that they just copy and pasted from access media articles in order to generate clicks. Figured the only thing they did was sell ad space.

[@waheebsaid]

Yamato is like a kid who admires their favourite hero to obsessive levels. The fact that her hero was killed by her farther she decides just to be him quite literally and it’s hilarious. The only reason they brought her up was because she fits a leading role…. Look up Momoiro Island, if your not into One Piece , look at Sanj's face 😂

[@Protect_all_ljf3forms]

Shin Godzilla was political critique of Japanese government. You’d only know this if you really look into it otherwise it just comes off as a kaiju movie with Godzilla being extra badass. The political aspect you had to search for, it wasn’t front and center, how to stop Godzilla was

[@trymv1578]

Hell OG Godzilla was a political critique on the US use of nukes and Japan's post war reaction to make their own.

[@anthonygarcia8749]

@@trymv1578 and it was very compelling because it was handled right 💯💯

[@AntiDecepticonCampaign]

I don’t think they understand anime fans or Japan for that matter

[@KaizerHuter]

I think when people complain that a story (or thing) is getting "political" they're not saying there's "Politics within the story (thing)." They're saying the "Story (thing) is within Politics" What I mean is, at the former, Politics is being used as a tool to enhance the story. In this case, the story is still first and foremost. On the Latter it's the inverse. The story is being used as a tool to enhance one's Politics. People understandably get pissed when the latter happens, because when that happens, things don't end with just the story (thing) being used as a pawn. The consumer is also ultimately, by extension, turned into a pawn. And the consumer isn't stupid. They can intuitively tell that they are somehow being used, even if they're unable to articulate it.

[@jamestoney6599]

Japanese Manga allowed views of those that American comic book artists disagreed with politically to be created as well. That's the huge difference between them. No modern Marvel or DC writer could write something as in depth or though provoking as The Legend of the Galactic Heroes or the Original Battle Suit Gundam either.

[@jollythespacepimp2735]

One Punch Man is a parody of western super heroes, and it's better than most western super heroes.

[@blackairforceenergyincarna6682]

The art is god tier as well and the moral message and exploration of what a hero really is as well what a “villain” or monster is

[@docsavage8640]

It's almost like Japanese culture aims to be honorable and respectful.

[@gjtrue]

As I've said elsewhere, while simultaneously quoting someone else on this little subject 😌: *Like someone said elsewhere about politics in the manga and/or Japanese/foreign games/media that have them, they instead are "handled with a scalpel and done with skill & precision. NOT done with the 'subtlety' of a *sledgehammer* and insulting the reader/viewer's intelligence." to push toxic propaganda.*

[@kmech3rd]

I want to see an Indie story about a plot/counterplot surrounding ANTIFA and fed up normal citizens.

[@derrickcrawford1081]

But wouldn't that story be in and of itself political?

[@orthex13]

Star Trek:TBG was always political. But there was never an episode where Jean-Luc was facing court martial because some ensign hob-knobbed him. That was a current news story (at the time), yet never made it into any tv show or movie, far as I know. But today they make a whole episode of SVU to tell Anita Z story on how she's always harassed.

[@sirubisan698]

Desperation is a beautiful thing.... If you aren't the other side

[@Zetact_]

There are some political messages in some anime/manga that are currently running where Japan is being invaded by foreign cultures [be they aliens, alternate dimensions, or simply other nations] that want to disintegrate the Japanese way of life and make Japan into a colony. Art reflects the society that produces it, as they say.

[@ty194]

Political is not the word - it's ACTIVISM. I think this is where people have difficulty with the argument in pointing out the difference.

[@fenrirtheicewolf2019]

Do they address social issues such as discrimination of course, but they don’t align with any specific party. That’s my issues. I see people from certain parties claiming manga/anime as their political belief.

[@daniboy4153]

I remember hearing someone in a comment section argue with this logic, but they tried to make it seem like manga was worse with politics than comics and they acted so smug about it.

[@graysonstorm864]

Real problem is Americans don't read comics anymore they watch the movie

[@everettsmyth2650]

This is what happens when you remove any meaning from WORDS... it's propaganda...

[@rezonance4937]

there's is a lot of allegories in manga when a commentary on any kind of issue commentary happens and isnt the forefront of the story. fishman arc from one piece is the most obvious.

[@DragonXD2]

This is just urnalist showing fear, they know American comics have fallen apart. So they want to scare normies off in a vain attempt to boost decaying sales, of course the problem is a ton of manga don't seem to have clear political messages; A lot comes down to story, if they have a problem with a character it's usually on personal notes. You know know vengeance, or they have to stop that person, or they are ask to fight this guy for reasons. Gundam, a series that takes place during war, probably mentions some politics; However the main Hero and Villain are both fighting the same enemies in very different ways, and then fight each other due to facing off trough out the series and the personal blows they did to each other. Western Comics don't seem to get these stories anymore, they could but chose not to. Usually for what ends up being nothing when all is said and done.

[@H250V]

The funny thing is that while there are "political" topics in certain mangas, it's not even the main focus, rather a spice they add to like create some world building - One Punch Man makes the whole Hero Association be basically a government beaurocracy with volunteer heroes joining and getting rewarded for their hero work the more jobs they take on as well as the kind of jobs they end up getting involved in, but the focus is not on the Hero Association, rather Saitama and how he and his other companions end up dealing with the daily grind; My Hero Academia treats hero work more like gun control in that even though everyone in society is basically born a meta human, due to how unpredictables some powers can be, onky a certain group of individuals are allower to use said powers legally, and even then they require training and sponsoship/tutelage from other professional heroes in order to do so, but the focus is always on our main charactersexperiencing first hand what it means to be a hero when on the field and the fact that they can also die while on duty, and whether or not they have the will to keep going and making their dream of becoming a hero a reality. The themes are there just for flavoring, not because the author wanted to make it about criticizing some guy or ideology they don't like, bht rather they wanted to make a story abkut certain people finding themselves in a world where life is a bit complex, yet familiar to most of us growing up or currently living in the adult world. Heck, I'd argue that even Dance in the Vampire Bund - a manga about political intrigue and relations between a refugee nation of vampires and the Japanese, as well as the rest of the world - still feels like it aims to tell a story more than slander a side it does not look favorably at. I would rather people read Vampire Bund over whatever it is Marvel or DC or even some western publishers are putting out simply because it is more entertaining as well as being a somewhat complex read.

[@DB-rp2gj]

As someone who loves sailor moon I would like to point out the two lesbians ( michiru and haruka ) were CHARACTERS first and foremost. You don't find out until after they are established that they are even lovers to begin with. Like it was something that was ADDED to them, not what DEFINED who they were.

[@tylermcflyer3061]

Stan Lee said it well. It’s there sure, but it’s not being shoved in the readers face that much. That’s something that seems to be impossible to explain to some people

[@gabev5973]

Both the manga and the author herself explain that Uranus and Neptune are attracted to each other because Uranus' particular attribute as a sailor is masculinity. They were designed like that because it would be interesting, not for social politics' sake.

[@817mborja]

Doesn't AOC sadly have her own pathetic excuse for a comic? Pretty sure that wasn't a fever dream, unfortunately.

[@gregoryenste8459]

I think it’s hilarious that they are so blind and are marching right off the edge of a cliff.

[@Batman2006100]

El tema es que en los mangas no hay partidismo como sí pasa en los cómics americanos

[@sagejay9816]

These people got so much wrong that proves they dont get or understand japan or manga at all.

[@luijo633]

Imagine taking something like Sailor Moon wich is old AF and some of it's characters wich were *created* as lesbians and saying that is the same as taking one estabished character of any comic and stight up create a homosexual version of it when the original wasn't any like that just for the pure sake of telling the word that this character is now gay

[@TheYetixOUTx]

Exactly. Its only us VS them now. There's no nuance or empathy for the other side. Back then and with manga You could find a story for any setting or personality you are looking for. Now in the US youre stuck with an Alt Left view. All story telling has been progressive in my eyes. Most end with some sort of lesson being spelled out. Something learned about your own shortcomings and how you arent so different from who you are against. But now its just LEFT IS BEST STFU. Its really sad. Lmao exactly what you said about My Hero Academia. Something doing superheroes waaay better than USA. He describes a character struggle and having multiple perspectives and growth. You might meet political characters but its the characters themselves who matter not the agenda.

[@Dr._Atom]

Well the thing is, politics in manga/anime is based as hell yet contains universal message for everyone, not just mindlessly pandering to one group of cult. I mean, Imagine Naruto rasengan the shit out of Orochimaru just because he misspronounces transwomen Tsunade in a non-comedic, preachy manner in which the audiences should take seriously

[@jakemiller270]

The 20th must profitable IP in Japan had 2 million dollars profit. Not sure the the US comic market but something tells me that is not the case.

[@umbrasunbro2142]

It’s funny because the point that the mangaka used current Japanese events to craft epic stories says it all. Political or not, they were/are making epic stories worth reading even over seas, current comic “pros” are writing catty, low stakes. One sided propaganda that they themselves don’t even want to read.

[@i.n.t.s.2092]

One-piece does actually deal with the topic of authoritarianism with regards to the world government. It also deals with anarchy in terms of themes with some pirates. Don flamenco's arc is a prime example of this.

[@fersuremaybek756]

they do not sacrifice their story to put in the ideology it's that simple and when there is politics it CAN mirrored to our world but most likely not.