Hollywood Hates You (Unless You Agree With Them)

Hollywood is becoming increasingly woke and they’re isolating and disparaging large portions of their audience while doing it. Instead of making endearing entertainment that appeals to all people, lesser-quality, hyper-radical content passes through without a flinch. For those fed up with Hollywood’s woke endgame, what can be done? We answer that question on this episode of Out of Frame.
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[@NovaZero]

Never allow an actor to think they're important. Never allow a director to think they're a visionary. Humility is an important trait to keep you grounded. Without it you end up being what Hollywood is - humiliating.

[@jcboyle82]

Except… if you believe in a free market, won’t some actors BE important? And won’t some directors just be visionaries no matter what? Are you suggesting we sensor people telling them they are visionaries?

[@gentlemangamer7883]

@@jcboyle82 I think what they’re trying to say is that a lot of the entertainment media lacks real humility and has an over abundance of arrogance and pride. Perhaps resulting from all the praise they maybe rightly earned at some point.

[@jcboyle82]

@@gentlemangamer7883 why does that matter? I mean, I know humility is a good trait, but great art comes from both humble and unhumble creators. There doesn’t seem to be a correlation.

[@josesosa3337]

Same thing to politicians. Never let anyone with power feel untouchable.

[@jcboyle82]

@UCAzksa8owlt6GMCuNKbXb5Q there is literally no reason to think art quality is tied to being humble. That’s just some western evangelical brainwashing telling you humble = better when it isn’t true in this case.

[@stommx]

I've gone from going to the movies 20 times a year to absolute zero.

[@kenneths.perlman1112]

I saw the new top gun movie. It really wasn’t as good as everyone said.

[@Puzzoozoo]

@@kenneths.perlman1112 That's because the bombing mission was just a gung-ho US flag waving modern day rehash of 633 Squadron's mission. And the Mach 10 bit was a polite nod to The Sound Barrier, both British films. Rule Britannia. And no, I didn't watch TGM.

[@Puzzoozoo]

FWIW, I've not gone to the movies since late 2018.

[@daysofgrace7818]

@@kenneths.perlman1112 if you took it for what it’s was, it was enjoyable!! People were relieved to just see an enjoyable action movie and not full of virtue signalling preaching!

[@Skrenja]

@@kenneths.perlman1112 Nah, it was great.

[@PayneMaximus]

When "art" becomes less important than politics, then it is no longer art, but PROPAGANDA.

[@crimsonmask3819]

The modern concept of _art_ is a bit of a con; we should appreciate skilled artisans/craftsmen more and not be stumbling over the urge to judge things based on competence and quality just because it's labeled art. But, by the same token, when a craft is designed to communicate ideas, as is fiction in all its myriad forms, propaganda is no less valid an application than commerce, and arguably more true to the intent. As well, that doesn't mean it has to be poorly made or ham-fisted. One of the most effective works of concerted propaganda I can think of is the movie *Full Metal Jacket.* Not only was it also an exceptional example of the craft of filmmaking on all fronts, it was a grand innovation in propaganda, actually using military training psychology on the audience to soften them for straight cinema-verite delivery of programming.

[@PayneMaximus]

@@crimsonmask3819 I'm sorry, but if the end result is propaganda, it's not art. It might be a masterful example of propaganda, but still propaganda.

[@houseofhas9355]

Art from the start has always been propaganda for the party folks in charge.

[@christopherortiz9330]

Jill Soloway: "Topple the patriarchy!" Also Jill: *becomes Joey Soloway*

[@DioTheGreatOne]

Guess she realized that the ''patriarchy'' is awesome and decided to join iy

[@rex8255]

The Woke Mob execs: "Wait, what? We were supposed to topple the Patriarchy, not our BUSINESS!"

[@robotsaysbeebooboop]

Dude I actually looked this up. It's true What a joke

[@Peanutdenver]

@@rex8255 Theatre goers are down 50% compared to the all time low in 2001 and I think that speaks volumes.

[@Blackhawks19_xx]

“You were supposed to destroy the sith not join them”

[@jimluebke3869]

There's a word for people who see others as objects and every interaction between people as a power struggle: Sociopaths.

[@npcimknot958]

Correct

[@Hearty1100]

Modern Marxism and its derivatives are the philosophies of sociopaths

[@jcboyle82]

They’re called Capitalists.

[@jimluebke3869]

@@jcboyle82 You have a very vivid, if conventional, imagination. Your public school teachers would be proud of you, and the ideologues in the movies, TV, and news you watch would be proud of themselves.

[@jcboyle82]

@@jimluebke3869 it’s ok to not understand what I’m saying. You’ve been indoctrinated. It’s not your fault you’re easy to fool.

[@fearthehoneybadger]

Destroy the traditions of a franchise and then trash the fans for daring to be upset.

[@cylusonsteam]

That's what I'm talkin about

[@thewritersquill]

Exactly! Which is why creating new stuff, and even continuing to share stories of the franchise we love (head cannons, even dare I say fan fiction - the well written, well thought out kind) is so important.

[@chrisblanc663]

It’s Marketing cheap. But you do get what you pay for.

[@kathleenhensley5951]

@@chrisblanc663 I don't see how it can possibly be marketing, though. I am never going to buy the DVD of Ghost Busters 2016 but I already own the new one. I will never buy 'Discovery' but I own DVDS of the first Star Trek and Deep space 9 and I may finally buy some the NG, one these days. I won't even buy a book- mark from Amazon's 'Rings of power' . They may get a lot of kids and people who know nothing of the Trilogy, to watch it, but they have severed me from any desire to even spend a penny on it. I don't like being called rude names and I had too many family who fought the Nazis to be called a Nazi and not take offense. How is that good marketing? Can you imagine what they could have done if they did enough to keep all of us dedicated Tolkien fans on board? If, instead of picking a fight, they were respectful to us and Tolkien's legacy?

[@chrisblanc663]

@@kathleenhensley5951 your totally right. That’s why they get what they paid for, as in, it’s cheap on the front end, but they will not make money on the back end.

[@rushevents]

The reason Hollywood has "adopted" the view of the pure artist is it is way to emotionally defend themselves from negative reactions. "They are unsophisticated rubes who just don't understand my art." In other words They lack the emotional strength of character to look within to see how their own views could be wrong.

[@KevonnieElaine]

As a Black actress, I totally agree 😩! Movies/shows nowadays is hard to watch because the woke agenda is shoved down our throats. For instance, as a fan of SATC, I couldn’t even finish the new season🤦🏽‍♀️.

[@KevonnieElaine]

The storytelling isn’t authentic anymore.

[@KratostheThird]

I just watch old Spike Lee movies. Thought provoking, and actually gives you a glimpse of the African American neighborhoods and communities in poorer areas.

[@norrisfuse23]

I got all pumped up to see the "Best Man" series only to not even finish the season due to more Woke Brainwashing pushed down our throats. It's becoming exhausting at this point. It's like I'm totally unenthusiastic about any old reboots they're about to bring out, because I feel like they've ruined my childhood enough.

[@saviorself1164]

I just don't understand what happened to "the color of someone's skin doesn't matter". When did it become "the color of your skin is the ONLY thing that matters"? These people celebrate Dr. Martin Luther King and act as though they are champions to his cause when they are actually doing the very thing that he was trying to undo. Race relations are worse now than 20 years ago. The media and woke Hollywood are 100% responsible for this. It's nearly impossible to find many forms of media today that don't have some political influence and the public at large are absolutely sick of it. Just look at the box office. The 2nd biggest movie of the year was the woke-free Top Gun Maverick and the biggest movie of the year was the new Avatar and it was panned by critics for not being woke enough because white people were cosplaying the native inhabitants. This has gotten completely out of hand and I blame it ALL on the media because the media is owned by the wealthy elite and they use the media as a tool to keep the 99% fighting amongst ourselves

[@tylersmith9868]

Nobody gives a shit if you're black

[@Steel-101]

The irony is that a lot of these actors play as heroes who go against corrupt organizations who see the hard working American as inferior. However these actors right now are acting like those villains lol 😆.

[@tacticianAlexandra]

You either die as a hero or live long enough to become the villain.

[@TH3F4LC0Nx]

Yeah Captain America be shilling hard for BLM. XD

[@jcboyle82]

@@TH3F4LC0Nx yeah. Cause BLM IS America. lol.

[@peter-8483]

@@jcboyle82 BLM is a terror organization, funded by foreign organizations. That’s as american as isis, but then again, the US funded isis

[@jcboyle82]

@@peter-8483 BLM is a movement. If you’re talking about BLM the organization then that’s something different. But the BLM protests were the largest in American history. Yes it’s very American to protest injustices.

[@NBGTFO]

No, they hate you whether you agree with them or not. They're horrible, evil people who care for nobody but themselves. They don't even like each other.

[@Minotaur-ey2lg]

They don’t even like themselves.

[@billfarley9015]

But they are celebrity-obsessed celebrities who don't ever want to stop celebrating themselves. There can never be too many award shows.

[@srgvette28]

Joo's....

[@shaunpearce6846]

Hollywood really hates Christianity. If you believe in god, you probably shouldn’t be giving them money. I personally have no religious faith, but I’ve looked into it and have found Hollywood morally disgusting since it’s creation. You can watch Hollywoodism, a film about Hollywood made by Hollywood. It paints themselves in a good light because of that, but you can start to see the bigger picture from there.

[@BloodyKnives66]

They can be changed though, my brother went from the most Liberal woke human being on earth to a Libertarian that's not entirely nuts. All it took was seeing how Liberalism is destroying his community in NY. Liberalism is like Communism in the sense that it will eventually destroy itself from within.

[@flipnap2112]

im in the industry and literally lost almost every "friend" on FB because I DIDN'T post ANYTHING political. I was called out with the ol "your silence is complicity" .. or whatever slogan was happening at the time.. I was exiled for just saying "hi" to everyone once in a while. And fine with their messaging, if it is applied within story boundaries and expectations. If everyone in every show suddenly were missing limbs I would question my suspension of disbelief. there simply isn't 80 percent of our population who is missing limbs. it would be like a boom mic suddenly entering frame. When I started seeing Hollywood actors being called "brave" for standing on stage and saying "F you Trump!" I was like "but this is just what theyre all doing, how is this brave?" Of course my notion of bravery is running into a burning house to save someone. Im saddened to see just how infected all facets of the industry is. Ive had to sit in dailies and listen to diatribes about how much like nazis Trump voters are. Im trying to glean some info about a lighting pass on my shot, I dont want to waste time listening to political rants. Of course if I said that out loud I would be called a nazi. go figure. now my silence HAS become necessary to simply work. People have just lost their frame of reference and its frightening to see just how well the far left has cornered Academia, Hollywood and the media. its the trifecta that created a zombie factory. When I grew up I wanted to work in movies because you could literally tell any story you wanted. only to see them all telling the exact same story over and over again, then be threatened for desiring something fresh.

[@thvf2381]

i lost lots of my online friend bcs i never speak up about my political stance. truthfully, i am a former far leftist, and now i'm a centrist. i knew revealing my political views would get me in trouble so i'd prefer to keep it myself. they will never be satisfied! they all be saying "it's about choice!" until someone who don't align with their politics or even have slightly different opinions.

[@anwylhsm954]

@@thvf2381 I wonder what you used to view as "far leftist". Because of those of us who used to be on the left and now vote based on politician or policy, or just vote red now out of necessity, it wasn't us who walked away. It was the left that went so far left they fell off the edge of sanity. Was it really you who changed your mind about anything at all? In my case it was when I realized that "liberal" is an absolute misnomer and I believe they use it on purpose. There is nothing liberal about the left.

[@anwylhsm954]

That really sucks. I lost about 40 friends in my very small circle of acquaintances on social media. But I didn't stay silent. When I saw what was going on I started "talking about politics" for the first time in my life, but it isn't even about "politics" it's about right and wrong - even "good and evil" in some cases. I had Trump Derangement Syndrome like a lot of people did. I just believed what the media said about him because it was "the news", right? Until the Catholic school kid incident when I realized the media blatantly reversed the whole story and the kid not only was innocent, but he was actually acting admirably, and it was all because he had on a Trump hat that the media smeared him and caused his family to receive death threats. At that point I realized everything I believed about Trump came to me from that same media, which now I realized couldn't be trusted, so I looked into each and every claim that was made about him that made me think he was the lowest form of life on the planet. And I discovered that ALL of them - except maybe the "grab 'em by the you know what" comment - were bullshit. The "Trump is racist" narrative especially is nonsense, yet Biden REALLY IS, and demonstrably so. Trump allowed black people and Jews to join his club while all the other clubs still wouldn't, AND he sued Palm Beach for racism. He also outed Epstein as a pedophile many years ago. I'm not saying I "like" him, I'm pretty ambivalent at this point, but what I AM saying is that it isn't hard to find the truth - that is, if you WANT to find it. It just baffles me why people want to continue on in this outraged fog of unbridled hate over nothing. How are there still people that haven't figured this all out by now? Trump isn't our enemy. Klaush Schwab, Bill Gates, George Soros, all of those super rich assholes are the enemy and it's their buddies who own ALL of our media and push that narrative that is so aggressively anti-Trump.... Because Trump couldn't be bought and was actively working against those people and fucking up their "Agenda 2030". It's incredibly transparent at this point. But I do know that, in the industry (I live 10 min. from Pinewood Studios and I have quite a lot of friends and family who work there) they are often approached and coerced into putting out a particular ideological message. Some of these Hollyweirdos don't actually think these things at all, they are essentially owned by the industry they work for. The music industry especially is this way. I don't think it helps that those who go against the Almighty Narrative end up coincidentally having a string of really bad luck, or end up in jail, or dying suddenly by drowning in a bathtub or hanging from a door knob.

[@highroller-jq3ix]

Does anyone really believe this sniveling nonsense?

[@alwaysxnever]

@@highroller-jq3ix quite a few. The world is a vast space open to taking and weaponinzing people's past to build a following and in some cases get their money.

[@MaxwellGriffin001]

When I went to film school, one of our first classes the professor asked for our favorite movie. Pretty much the entire class said "Donnie Darko", "Pulp Fiction" or "Requiem for a Dream"...I said "Back to the Future" and another guy said "Big Trouble Little China". 2 out of 18 students still work in production. Guess which two.

[@davestang5454]

Great point. JERRY LEWIS had a great work ethic as a producer, director, actor. His goal in each and every production was to ENTERTAIN the audience. I think his 2nd most important goal in making a production was for everyone involved to actually ENJOY the process.

[@YoungTthailand]

"I miss loving star wars" - Chris Gore So do I I miss the old days when Hollywood entertained me, not woke-brainwashing me.

[@jonsimpson6240]

And doctor who, and terminator, and star trek, and ghost busters, and the mcu even...

[@YoungTthailand]

@@jonsimpson6240 oh yes sir that's true

[@theVictor-isVonDoom]

Star wars was amazing but now all we get is subpar at best so it's honestly no longer even worth it and I grew up with it (literally the 1st movie I ever saw was a new hope) but now I can live stomach what they've done to it and yes the MCU is heading down the path what's worse they chose to do this THE SECOND THEY GET THE X-MEN AND THE FANTASTIC FOUR

[@Julia-lk8jn]

Stories always brain-wash you. Only the *good old days* stories told you that it makes perfect sense that a middle-aged men is being drooled over by stunningly beautiful women in their twenties, that the hero of the story will of course end up with a beautiful sexy woman no matter how mediocre he is, that heros have light skin and afro-americans are the comic relief, that a sensible futuristic uniform for women is a mini skirt and go-go boots, ... ... and now there are suddenly stories were the captain of the space ship is a woman, and not even a particularly hot one in a bikini. Help! Wokeness! Sorry, very short on compassion for that.

[@jonsimpson6240]

@@Julia-lk8jn the show that had the miniskirt and go-go boots had that as a unisex uniform. The "comic relief character" of the old movies usually have more heart and characterisation than most modern protagonists. Women have captained space ships since science fiction has been a thing on TV, it's not sudden. Starship troopers did it, star trek voyager did it, pretty sure og star trek did it, star wars doesn't have the hero get the girl (hell, most of Kirk's stuff is bittersweet), Fat thumbs sent this before I finished. The old stories may have had "brainwashing" but they first told stories with characters that were intended to entertain.

[@rainershea3880]

When my little sister was 3, she started to watch Ghostbusters 2016, and couldn’t get beyond the first ten minutes. Not because it was scary, but because it had “all these characters” who were annoying and bad. The remakes they’re creating can be seen through by anyone.

[@spike5499]

and everybody clapped

[@kaizokujimbei143]

When a 3 year old is smarter than the entirety of woke Hollywood.

[@LadyAmalthea0615]

My kids who were 5 at the time, I have twins, didn't like it either. They wanted me to stop it and put the old one on. They'd seen it before and loved it.

[@greasybumpkin1661]

Why would a three year old have "characters" in their vocab?

[@rainershea3880]

@@greasybumpkin1661 this is a smart kid.

[@MeGawOOt99]

I always say this: the filming industry never started in Hollywood. It started in NYC and they lost it. NYC could have been Hollywood except for rules and oppressive atmosphere that stifled creativity. If Hollywood wants to do woke activism I say let them. Eventually competition and free market will sort it all out.

[@SirBlackReeds]

Given how New Mexico, Canada, and Tennessee give benefits for film production, it's all a matter of the right people taking advantage of the opportunity. Sure, there's Georgia, but that's also where much of the crap that audiences bemoan is made.

[@robertewalt7789]

Actually, Hollywood started in NJ, with finance from NYC. Edison invented movies in NJ, early studios were in Fort Lee, NJ, just across from NYC. Until the studios found better weather in LA.

[@bwtv147]

@@robertewalt7789 The studios evaded Edison's patent claims in California.

[@danieljonsson887]

The greatest director and the greatest actor are both born and raised in NYC. The director has only recieved one oscar, and it wasnt for one of his best movies. He is the biggest reason why oscars doesnt mean anything to me.

[@playstationaccount4473]

​@@danieljonsson887 Stanley Kubrick right? But movies are associated with Los Angeles, at least in my eyes(and Kubrick Hated LA). NYC with plays and literature. It just seems that way. The movies need a sprawled out location.

[@robinlillian9471]

It's their loss. When you insult people, they don't watch or buy merch. "I hope you like it," has become,"Watch it or you're evil and stupid!" Unfortunately, for them, you still can't insult/shame people into watching and buying.

[@decwow]

10:15 Ooofff.. wow. Angry lesbian feminist thought boys and men are praised for everything. Ooooohhh... wow. No brothers or, well, any men at all in her childhood I would guess. It's really simple. We're not praised for.. well.. much of anything. Almost ever. For us, praise mostly stops in elementary school and that's it. It's almost entirely absent for the rest of our lives.

[@npcimknot958]

She's literally bashing men in tha clip so it completely cancels out her argument lol.

[@treyriver5676]

To prarphrase from "Girl writes what ?" Men are Doings, Women are Beings.

[@ryancampbell955]

@@npcimknot958 exactly, and I also found it ironic that she went from bashing men to becoming one.

[@decwow]

@@treyriver5676 Ah, yes I remember that phrase. "Women are human beings, and men are human doings"

[@SirBlackReeds]

She may be fujoshi given the amount of homoerotic imagery she used.

[@kristoferprovencal3608]

I don't think I was ever told "you can be anything" when I was growing up, what I was told was "you have to do something". And of course the reasoning why, that is, to support a wife and family.

[@jcboyle82]

Yep. That’s the patriarchy.

[@sarasunshinemt4444]

I have 3 brothers and my folks always said that we could grow up to be "anything", but would then be REAL CLEAR what kind of talent, work and skills were needed to achieve those things that we brought to them. They also raised us to be aware of what life was like, that it could be hard, the difference between dreams & goals, and that marriage is hard but worth it. Now the youngest of us is 39 lol and we are doing just fine. Got everything from a Lt.Col. in the AF to small business owner to career stay at home mom (I firmly believe that I got the best job out of all of us, IMHO).

[@jcboyle82]

@@sarasunshinemt4444 Sounds like every white family from the 80s (as I’m one too). Reagan was a hell of a drug for our parents. Lol.

[@jeffg7478]

@@jcboyle82 sounds like you're sucking down a big bong hit of that modern/postmodern swag.

[@jcboyle82]

@_*ZAPATOZ*_ who is bob?

[@oriongear2499]

Hollywood: We hate you if you don't agree with us. Me: Well I hate you too.

[@bestpossibleworld2091]

The essential premise of this video is brilliant and spot on. When I was an art major in college the "art for art's sake" crowd captured the universities. They had an open and virulent hatred toward films, visual and other art forms that were created to either sell to or please an audience. My cohorts went on to eventually take over all forms of the media and see themselves as duty-bound to advance "the message" (i.e. the destruction of oppressive bourgeoisie values).

[@Fuk99999]

“She starts by suggesting that boys and young men are praised for everything they ever do” Huh. That’s funny. I’m 30 and don’t recall a single ounce of praise in my life that wasn’t a normal platitude

[@frogloki882]

Its like that for most of us.

[@kingchrizzy0764]

That really stood out for me too. The ultimate gaslight that men get praised just for living when in reality most men don’t even get the recognition they deserve within their own households. Everyone acts like the abusive extreme 1950 household is how every nuclear family acts. In reality husbands and wives used to be a team, now husbands are just used as the catalyst of everything wrong in the relationship.

[@robotsaysbeebooboop]

She became a he, how ironic

[@bobthebuilder9553]

Well put.

[@gabriellockhart]

@@robotsaysbeebooboop Nah mate, She became a trans which ironically gave her even more praise and thus validates her original idiot ideas.

[@Natendowii]

As an Aviator shades-bedecked Arizonan once told me: "Hollywood hates you, it's okay to hate them back!"

[@DragonMaster360]

I know this comment is four months old, but I gotta say it: Godspeed!!

[@dantesinporno]

Razor also said that the opposite of love isn't hate, it's indifference. These people, intellectual properties and beliefs do not deserve our time, resources or attention. Disregard them out of existence.

[@crawlingboy]

Good ol razor fist

[@John-PaulHunt-pv6ol]

I am a misanthrope. I hate everyone. hollywood is no different form my hatred for fox news and conservatives. they al love money and the spotlight.

[@jeffreyrichard2575]

the more radical the belief, the more they NEED others to believe it.

[@woodrowgodshyne1654]

The mark of a great artist... The artist that can keep their creative vision, while making their vision as palatable to as many people as possible.

[@EricGranata]

Had the same experience when I studied video production. The rich kids wanted to make art. I did too but I fed my kids shooting weddings.

[@FEEonline]

I think that's a pretty important observation. It was only ever the people who could "afford" (usually because of their parents' money) to ignore the audience that did all the super avant garde stuff. And by the way, I don't have anything against anyone doing that... but I generally try to recognize it for what it is: personal consumption. It's people making art for themselves to enjoy and not really anyone else. Cool if you have the disposable income to do that, but for most of us who want to make a living, we actually have to make stuff other people want to watch.

[@TheRibbonRed]

@@FEEonline it could be both; something that gives the creators personal enjoyment & entertain other people. Problem is, "the rich kids" cannot comprehend the last part. They want people to _follow them_ and throw tantrums when they don't.

[@FEEonline]

@@TheRibbonRed oh... I think it *should* be both! I would not make this series, or much of anything else I've done over the last 15+ years if I didn't love what I was working on. There's no point to this kind of career otherwise. But if it's *only* for you, then don't expect to get paid.

[@Michelle_Wellbeck]

Hey, who's to say you can't make shooting weddings into an art?

[@FEEonline]

@@Michelle_Wellbeck you can, but having started my video-making career at a primarily wedding videography company, I'll tell ya... It's tough.

[@psyxypher3881]

"Boys and men are praised for all they ever do." Try being consistently treated by all the adults in your life as if you were some slow kid and come back to me. That was my reality. It was so prevalent that for a long time it didn't even register that people thought there was something wrong with me.

[@SoybeanAK]

That sucks bro. Hope you figured out along the way how they were wrong.

[@tommyfishhouse8050]

Feminists always talks about how toxic men are to women. But you rarely ever see anyone talk about how toxic men can be to other men. Or women can be to other women.

[@cmdrvicprower]

i want to go to this amazing world where boys and men are praised for all they do. When i grew up i got belittled for not being competent in physical activities, for being more of an indoor kid. And grown up, while many family members are supportive enough of my career choices, some people do criticize me for not earning more money, for not having a wife and kids already at my age etc etc.... would be so nice to go to this magical place where i get praised on everything for just being male....

[@lainiwakura1776]

@@tommyfishhouse8050 Tina Fey did call this out in Mean Girls, but it was a comedy and I don't think the girls who saw it got the message, even though it was said in the movie. But yes, you are absolutely correct.

[@lainiwakura1776]

That woman needs to watch King of the Hill because Hank is representative of the every man and he does not constantly praise Bobby and was never praised by Cotton and in fact was yelled at when he showed any weakness as a child.

[@frogloki882]

It hurts to see so many of my favourite actors and directors say such stuff about their fans.

[@Vesuya]

"Artists" usually breaks down to Craftsmen vs Activists.

[@julius-stark]

I wish we could show every Hollywood executive this video because it nails it to a tee.

[@splitsong7368]

Tge ultra rich dont give a fuck about it. Even if they did watch it they would pat themsleves on the back.

[@SamSwanner]

That would be as useless as showing a politician the Constitution.

[@mustang607]

Not much reasoning left once the addictive feeling of moral superiority is programmed in and the integrity level drops too low.

[@FlyingTigersKMT]

They would never watch trash videos from trash people like us. They are too good for us.

[@FlyingTigersKMT]

Might as well show Harvey Weinstein a rape prevention video.

[@emmagrove6491]

When I was younger, I thought most adults were motivated by a desire to do something positive in the world. I slowly learned that most adults are motivated by fear and greed.

[@johntomasik1555]

Yep. True. And it's supported by the fact that 97% of the voters vote Democrat and Republican. Those are the greedy and cowardly ones.

[@lindalambert8727]

It wasn’t always that way.

[@LostSox]

@@lindalambert8727 yeah it has. The ability to see the entire world from our pocket just made it more transparent.

[@gregbors8364]

@@LostSox I agree, though what you’re seeing with the device in your pocket isn’t the real world - it’s a funhouse reflection of the world, partially created by yourself, based on your viewing habits and preconceived notions (“algorithm”)

[@LostSox]

@@gregbors8364 I’m not talking about contrived personalities I can see through. And this device spills more truth than an inebriated person. You just have to know what to look for.

[@oiwithyou]

It's not just hollywood. You find the same sort of attitudes in the comic book industry, the video game industry. There's even some of it in the tabletop gaming industry. Every form of entertainment is getting turned into a place where you're only welcome if you're in lockstep with these individuals who have worked their personal beliefs or ideologies into the end product. Oftentimes it's done in a manner ill fitting the established world or setting and when people inevitably reject it a lot of companies have responded with "if you're not onboard with what we're doing then you will not be missed". Those last five words hit me like a sack of bricks every time, because it tells me you never cared about my patronage, what's more you think I'm so destructive to the thing that I genuinely enjoyed for years that you'd rather see me gone than listen to a single opinion I might have on the subject I've poured time and energy into learning and partaking in. If I won't be missed, not even as a +1 on some quarterly report chart, then I truly have no reason left to stay.

[@RipperRoo92]

I definitely agree, first I hated where everything is going but now I don't need the industry. Young Rippa, Ben and Daily Wire are doing their thing. It's definitely inspired me to shake up another industry in the entertainment bubble.

[@Snakedude4life]

“We’re going to remake the first alien movie! We’re going to fix it by making the Xenomorph an overt allegory for misogyny!” “Why? No one-“ “Silence bigot!” 🎩 🐍no step on Snek! 🇭🇰🇺🇸

[@redsnake188]

@Tobias Rieper the sad part is that's not even a joke or a exaggeration. She would single handedly be taking in the aliens and there would be a scene where a group of dudes are scared shit less while she stands defiantly knowing she has plot armor

[@MildMisanthropeMaybeMassive]

The Alien movies are all about rape and a female in a man's world struggling and surviving it all. It was the template for today's woke movies.

[@Noperare]

I mean, everything about the original xenomorph was an allegory for rape. Difference is that back then, but had nuance. Heck, compare Terminator 2 and Terminator: dark fate, it is basically the same story but T:DF manage to screw up everything T2 did right.

[@nuckygulliver9607]

this isn't an ARTISTIC goal. It's injecting marketing into the story. Hollywood doesn't try to make art, other than tarantino or a few others that seldomly make a movie

[@chrismath149]

@@MildMisanthropeMaybeMassive The male characters are standing up to the Alien just like Ripley does. It is not a fight between male versus female but humanity against monsters. It just happens that Ripley as the lead is female. Don't know if it is true but I've heard that they created Ripley as a character before assigning a gender.

[@Carnyx_1]

I was told, "you can be anything... that makes enough money and supports a family". You must support a family, and if you can't, at the very least you MUST support yourself. No one is coming to save you. As a male I was taught, you are on your own; as soon as people start to perceive you as a man nothing will ever be easy again. Best toughen up now. As a "young man" you're expected to learn that men, take all the arrows, they don't complain, they turn over the wealth they created to others, so their families can live in comfort. Women are to be protected, respected, treated kindly and supported. Where is the male privilege in that? Even if you don't believe all that above, for the sake of argument consider it gospel truth. I am a middle class American, and some female college student is telling me to 'check my privilege' and I'm part of the patriarchy? Are you even capable of realizing how absurd that sounds to me?

[@norrisfuse23]

"Facts!" I don't know what the Hell that lady is talking about or where she got that idea from.

[@dantesinporno]

Weak people are willing to do endless, elaborate mental gymnastics to blame something or someone other than themselves for their own inadequacies, problems and emotional issues. "I shouldn't have to change. You should behave and believe differently to make the world better and easier for me." Pathetic.

[@akfreed6949]

Yeah , toughen up . Remember , if there's problems with the country ; it's not the blacks , Asians , Latinos or any other minority it's the oligarchy rulers of the American government screwing up America . We don't go to malls anymore simply because of Amazon . The Oligarchs sent millions of American jobs to China since Clinton left the White House . We don't go to malls anymore because we just don't have the time or money for it the RepubliKlans and their corporate puppetmasters took the luxury of time and money from us .

[@hud86]

I'm right there with you. I moved to this cesspit of a state and the ideology is prolific amongst the average citizen here. If you actually do meaningful work, you are living in poverty here, if you do something unnecessary and frivolous, you're rich! At least back east the rich know they need labor, here they act like it's not necessary while everything crumbles around them. California and Hollywood are sick and need to be corrected before the whole country goes down this route and end up like feudal California

[@naveerakhan9622]

Groing up, my brother had privileges that I didn't. But that never meant he didn't have his own set of problems that I'm fortunate to have never faced and will likely never come across at all. "Being a man" seems exhausting and debilitating af. I hope a decade from now we can look back at "woke Hollywood" and agree as a collective how absurd it is to claim you represent an equal rights movement while shamelessly denying that your own privilege even exists.

[@johnnyrocketed2225]

Thanks for a great channel! It’s so important to keep objectivity alive. Keep ‘em coming!

[@dangertrebor]

I graduated from the Yale School of Drama in 2001. I cannot tell you how much your video rings true for me. Contempt is what many of those "artists", especially the Directors felt about the rest of us, groundlings. A kid who's Dad won an Oscar for Dangerous Liaisons was the embodiment of this contempt. Because of him, I came up with a phrase that made it's rounds there..."Some people's art is other people's suck". That is how I felt then, and that is how I feel now, 22 years later, probably even more so. These people have no intention of entertaining, these just want to pontificate, prove how "intelligent" they are, and teach you about the wrongs you commit.

[@thewritersquill]

It’s SO important to make our own stuff! I went to film school and minored in creative writing for the very purpose of making content that I want to see. Less politics (none of which is “in your face”), and more good writing and story. It’s the “getting it to people” part I have trouble with lol Thanks for the video FEE, I really needed this today.

[@Wesson42]

Yes, I'd much rather see stories that involve politics explore the branches of any ideology or society and make you think about it rather than being preached to about me being a bad person because of the color of my skin or what my great great great great grandfather did 150 years ago.

[@BlueisNotaWarmColour]

@@strangelyukrainian7314 right. The problem was never politics, it was propaganda.

[@ScamwatchDallin]

@@strangelyukrainian7314 That's an interesting point. Just made me think of Winston in 1984 (cliché to bring up, I know). It's made pretty clear that Winston is not a hero, or even really a good person. And while we as the reader generally interprets the Party as evil, we only really see Winston in the losing side of an argument. Good and bad are inferred by the reader rather than explained by the text.

[@thewritersquill]

I agree - there's nothing wrong with politics in media so long as it's done with tact and/or subtly. That's why I said "less" politics, because the majority of entertainment, from America at least, has something political in it that isn't handled well. I'm all for seeing it if it's handled with care but the people in charge of these companies right now have proven that they are either unable or unwilling to so.

[@TheStrangerSpeaks10]

It really is. I got a degree in theatre/acting but now I look at everything that’s on and don’t see anything I’d want to be in. Let me know if you’re ever putting up a project, I’d love to audition.

[@m-71tx26]

Hollywood can’t die fast enough.

[@tentimetex]

Its true. Hollywood used to tell stories. Now it is just propaganda, selling an ideology, an outlook, an ideal, a political view... For all the damage it has caused society and culture, and for all its decadence, narcissism and hypocrisy it should burn. Internet has killed the video star and we shall hope for a renewed age of creativity to rise from its ashes.

[@grossliz1995]

Tick, tock. Times up!

[@5amH45lam]

Hollywood and the cancerous plague on society that is the mainstream 'news' media.

[@feck2594]

Let it burn , I go against them with my wallet , because I don't pay to see crap.

[@travisbishop782]

Nuke it from orbit! It's the only way to be sure.

[@martinschulz9381]

Well said. Hollywood has no accountability, they blame/demonize the fans for not liking their movies. They will learn the hard way.

[@Big__Thicc]

I cannot believe that these companies are not seeing that NOBODY wants to see Woke movies, so why the hell do they keep making them?! How can you be cancelled for not making a woke movie, when nobody wants to see a woke movie?! Where is the math here??

[@chesterlestrange7725]

They get BIG money for maintaining a high ESG score. The people at the top (entities like blackrock) that want this shit pushed make sure the companies that push it still get paid enough money to continue pushing it if the product flops.

[@redpillsatori3020]

That little clip of the Drinker saying "THE MESSAGE" reminded me that I haven't seen his videos in awhile. YT has been shadow banning a lot of my favorite content creators lately.

[@MikeWhiskyTango]

He's just made a great vid about the death of the hollywood star.

[@TheNickBrotherhood]

It isn't shadow banning. His vids show up for me too. The algorithm thinks you aren't interested in his videos anymore so it doesn't show up at the top

[@SirBlackReeds]

Or have they?

[@StickNik]

I love how much Drinker's "THE MESSAGE" is going around.

[@neonbunnies9596]

It's important to remember that risky flim projects are more likely to be produced by smaller flim studios, while big studios will just do what worked last time. There was a lot of small flim studios back when nostalgia hits us hardest, but now they've all gone bankrupt or been brought out by the bigger corporations, more boring movies that don't do anything risky and leave zero impression once the viewer leaves the theatre are being made.

[@lindasmith320]

The success of Top Gun shows that the majority of Americans are not interested in gender/race politics and ESG bs. Also the popularity of Korean TV which is some of the best story telling around

[@dirtdiggity1714]

"Never intended to succeed". A fine choice of words.

[@warrenrhinerson6373]

To quote Pierce Brosnan as the legendary 007 “you forgot the first rule of mass media give the people what they want” Tomorrow never dies

[@TheLedonne3]

I'm now tuned out of most Hollywood entertainment. I get most of my content from KZbin and simply partipate in life more. The agenda Hollywood has been driving has actually benefited me greatly by getting my ass of the couch. I'm not sure if it was after watching Coming 2 America or The Bill & Ted's reboot, but that was when I officially tapped out. I generally only watch movies or programs off friend recommendation now.

[@ElectricSoul828]

So glad I found this video. I hope we can continue this conversation

[@blakegriffin4730]

As.a gay Trump supporter who endured the finger wagging and outright hate of the left, I haven't given Hollywood a dime since 2016. After years of going to movie opening nights, buying endless DVD/Blu Ray releases, buying movie scores and soundtracks. They will never get a single dime from me and my life has been better for it.

[@FEEonline]

I have a number of friends who are both gay and supported Trump. I never supported Trump at all but, according to a number of my former friends over the last 5 years, failed to adequately oppose him and the vitriol I got from people was often astounding. I can't imagine what you've had to go through.

[@JohnDoe-dr9ff]

Take up fishing. Good hobby in place of Hollywood movies. Get outside, relaxing, enjoy the weather, and hopefully catch a few big’uns.

[@FEEonline]

@@JohnDoe-dr9ff I've been doing a lot of home renovation/construction type stuff lately, and while I don't love how busy I have been because of the time line I've had to hit, I could see myself doing more similar projects later... Not a bad thing to get outside and move around.

[@Jarod-te2bi]

I agree with what you doing here. All thought I have to say the new Batman film was great it’s worth checking out

[@npcimknot958]

Honestly I don't k ow why people say Trump hates lbgtq . He is the first guy to hire a gay representative in gov. He was for gay way before politics. He had gay celebs on his show. He flicking defended takei when he was called fruity and shit... black same thing.. He doesn't care.. live and let live. Still remember when omorosa accused Pearce of being in the closet and Trump was like and if it's true what's the problem? Very sad indeed.

[@camerastooge]

Thank God that technology has driven down the costs of production and enabled creators to bypass the "Hollywood system" to make and distribute their work. Thirty, maybe even twenty years ago, the only way to create a high-quality movie -- and distribute it to the masses -- was by going through the studio system. Everything was so freaking expensive, and concentrated in California (for the US film industry). Now, you can create a whole movie (that looks like a big studio movie) for what most of those big studio productions spend on catering.

[@josesosa3337]

A good example of the advancement of technology.

[@legoboy-ox2kx]

Yep, one of my favorite directors made his first movie Primer in 2004 for about 5000 dollars with a tiny crew, and it won Sundance that year.

[@camerastooge]

@@legoboy-ox2kx Primer - great movie!

[@ktoth29]

Good luck getting anyone to see it. Hollywood is going through a population bottleneck. The industry is contracting and consolidating. The competition has meant few good jobs are available and there is more pressure for those at the top to push radical views for attention, and those at the bottom to conform.

[@deanchur]

@Raylan Givens Show them Who Killed Captain Alex, they won't know what's going on but they'll love every second of it.

[@LJ-hk4tv]

"Empathy isn't possible if truth is subjective." Thank you for this.

[@randallcromer66]

I couldn't agree more with what you had to say in this video. Thank you for telling the truth and exposing what and who is behind the scenes.

[@dustincameron787]

I don't want a lecture, I don't want to be looked down on or spoken down to. I just want to be entertained with an exciting story and likable characters. When did that become too much to ask for, Hollywood?

[@damiantirado9616]

Well that’s your opinion I liked watching movies with political messages. Stop projecting what you want towards others. Also almost all the greatest films ever made have left wing political messages for example taxi driver.

[@alanab9674]

@@damiantirado9616 You missed the point. And I don't like Taxi Driver.

[@damiantirado9616]

@@miltain dude 99% of movies are left wing. Jaws, Star Wars original trilogy etc. those movies have left wing political messages😂😂 lol you conservatives truly don’t understand movies that is why your movies suck

[@damiantirado9616]

@@alanab9674 what point did I miss? Also not surprised you don’t like taxi driver conservatives got bad taste in movies that’s why conservative movies always flop

[@damiantirado9616]

@@miltain dude they are in fact left wing😂😂 if you don’t believe me research it. George Lucas literally said that Star Wars was inspired by the Vietnam war, the rebels are communists and the empire is American capitalists. You conservatives are really pathetic go make bad movies like gods not dead😂

[@matthewsawczyn6592]

"People are sticking stuff out there and asking you to believe it. They're not _making_ you believe it." -Thelma Schoonmaker, editor of Raging Bull

[@brettbeyer73]

Your idea about the audience becoming the creator is the best I've heard yet. You're spot on, and it would be great to see more people take up this mantle.

[@geoffreydowdle5751]

Thanks for using critical drinker's "the message" 13:26 And that TED-Ed vid was interesting too 19:02

[@gbolahanafolayan]

Really took me by surprise 😂

[@geoffreydowdle5751]

@@gbolahanafolayan I know right! Haha

[@kyrohowe3156]

I like Critical Drinker

[@takatamiyagawa5688]

What really took me by surprise was the "Ocean's Eight" label at 13:24.

[@ickyelf4549]

The Critical Drinker is a liar. His video on Star Trek was full of lies about the history of the franchise.

[@ferulebezel]

I'm reminded of what something Billy Wilder allegedly once said: An audience is never wrong. An individual member of it may be an imbecile, but a thousand imbeciles together in the dark - that is critical genius.

[@jcboyle82]

So if movies are breaking records, that means the audience likes it, right?

[@ferulebezel]

@@jcboyle82 If they are legitimately doing so. There are too many way to cook the data, usually not accounting for confounding factors that could be accounted for.

[@jcboyle82]

@@ferulebezel oooooh ok. So you ignore facts if they don’t match up with your reality. Shocker.

[@nuckygulliver9607]

some movies are not made for mass audiences. This video confuses them with hollywood movies which inject marketing and politics into them. hollywood movies are marketing excercises

[@WhiteManOnCampus]

@@jcboyle82 An example - not from movies, I don't know the film industry well enough to point it out - but from comics, to show you how information can easily be cooked and how a person can lie while saying nothing but factual truth: The primary means of measuring comic sales is in how many copies of a particular issue are ordered by physical stores. It makes sense to do it this way because it doesn't worry about the mire of needing feedback from every store of what they're selling - you just have to look if they're ordering extra copies of an issue, which means they've sold out and there is demand over the store's supply. So if every comic store is ordering a buttload of X-Men, you know X-Men is selling well. You don't need to know exactly how many of these newly-ordered copies were sold at the store, just that the store believed they needed these many copies. With me so far? In the modern day, the big two - Marvel doing this worse than DC at least from the last time I looked into this - have taken up a new methodology: in order for the stores to buy the comics they want, the comics that are selling, they need to order additional comics. For example, if a store wants to sell X-Men, they may have to buy one copy of Captain Marvel for every copy of X-Men...or Marvel won't let them buy the X-Men comics. And for a comic store, of course they have to sell the popular comics to make money. And sometimes the stores will have to buy two or three copies of a comic nobody wants just to get one of the comics that sells. So now Marvel can proudly state that based on the sales data Captain Marvel is outselling X-Men by a factor of 2 or 3, when if you were to go to the physical stores you'd see X-Men almost entirely sold out while extra copies of unsold Captain Marvel are stacked in crates in the back. To bring it back around to movies, one thing I know that was being done for the Captain Marvel movie was that Disney was actually buying up tickets to screenings just to inflate the numbers of people who were supposedly going to see it. This ended up losing theaters money because while the tickets were bought, people who don't exist don't buy snacks, and that's where theaters make a lot of their revenue.

[@RobertoAlvarezGalloso]

Hollywood Hates me, I hate Hollywood to the Point that I dont see their movie. I quit seeing their movies in the 1970s with some few exceptions. I see Independent movies from the interior of America as well as outside America

[@petesmith13]

Wait so the person who spent most of their adult life trying to smash the patriarchy became part of the patriarchy it would be amusing if they had any self reflection

[@Vandervecken]

But of course SHE didn't, really.

[@p930racer]

I think Freud had a few theories about the type of envy she is experiencing, lol.

[@classicgamer9826]

Thats like hitler converting yo Judaism

[@SvendleBerries]

The ultimate penis envy lol

[@_Arevan]

I've mostly opted out of modern productions. There are more than fifty years of highly acclaimed movies to get over this divisive period. Hopefully we can reconnect to a better environment on the other side.

[@Wesson42]

Just be sure to come back when movies are back to normal again and not the idealized version you have of what a modern movie should be

[@TomatoBreadOrgasm]

The old film The Philadelphia Story is a good one if you're in the mood for a comedy.

[@_Arevan]

@@TomatoBreadOrgasm thanks I will look into it 👍

[@writing_monkey6215]

Same. Its rare to find anything good lately so I've been checking out older movies and shows.

[@denver-gi7ot]

There will always be good art being made as well. Even if it's not coming out of Hollywood at the moment.

[@Sarcastic_Sophist]

I found this video very interesting. As an aspiring writer who keeps applying to work in the industry I have often been told I need more experience. While I am trying to work on a portfolio to let my work speak for itself. I frequently feel dejected, annoyed, or even lied to when multiple people with no experience, or experience only making content people hate keep getting work. Why is it that they can fail over and over again before I can even get a chance to start. I don't even want to lead the writing team, I know I am not ready to, I just want to be in the room. Oh well, just going to keep working on my ideas, some of which may have come to mind while drunkenly critiquing many of these "modern" movies/shows.

[@pierrebinot149]

Our wonderful Redford Theatre is in your video!! We show a lot of non-woke vintage films love that place. Great video by the way!!

[@yorkshire_tea_innit8097]

This is why they need Ricky Gervais at the Oscars. Because someone needs to ridicule this people when they pontificate.

[@dhritidutta6231]

Rickey Jervis is wrong also...

[@marissadower-morgan3313]

Politically correct is the problem, as well as suppressing both sides of any argument in Art and All Media

[@damiantirado9616]

Yes we need more movies with less black people and more white men

[@bobs3354]

Screw Hollywood.

[@vickielawson3114]

This was really good. I agree with the message completely. People need to stop feeding the monster and start refusing to go see all this Hollywood garbage.

[@Parzival_V]

As a Mexican I being following US political climate as long as 2015 And I get amazed every time how Americans need politics in literally everything and how that's ruining the biggest entertainment industry of all time All those 70s-2000s classics that are being remade/rebooted or have a sequel are diying slowly and producers blame the product itself

[@jcboyle82]

Art is expression. And politics can be part of that. It’s always been this way. This is nothing new.

[@Parzival_V]

@@jcboyle82 Literally the video is about that point, did you even watch it? or you are just looking comments to disagree with?

[@jcboyle82]

@@Parzival_V I wasn’t responding to the video. I was responding to you. It’s not a U.S. thing. All art is that way.

[@Parzival_V]

@@jcboyle82 You have to be blind or something if you think the us doesn't over politices their media that was the point....

[@jcboyle82]

@@Parzival_V just because you don’t know how art works and that channels like this cherry-pick movies that make you *think* it’s a problem doesn’t make *me* blind. Do you know how many movies come out each year? Before covid, between 700-800. Now it’s it’s in the 400 range. EACH YEAR. And you can find 2 or 3 that are “woke”. Come on. Wake up.

[@Se7enChk]

How dare she ask the "MEN" and "WOMEN" to stand up. Is she a biologist?

[@rise_and_reborn4048]

Lol. The way people like her are gooming. All objective truth and knowledge will be denied and made to seem relative. They are all actors trying to pretend their fantasy is real through social proof.

[@masonkelly7908]

💀💀💀

[@sasquatchhunter86]

But now that she’s a man, doesn’t that mean she’s a part of the patriarchy?

[@ynsimha7663]

That was in 2017. Oh boy have things become even more insane in the US since then. Thankfully, I am not a citizen there.

[@sasquatchhunter86]

@@ynsimha7663 all this madness leaks from Western Europe, the US, and Canada to the other countries. I’m seeing it happen in the Latin countries. The wokeness will come for you eventually.

[@Mq6vL9Bu]

Hollywood tells me every year at their award shows what a terrible person I am and how they have moral superiority over me.

[@i_amnot_here2453]

"Men are being praised for whatever they do." As a guy I wished that was true. Because I never seen nor experienced that growing up. Its more like insults, taunts, threats, and that consistent slogan that I'm not worth anything unless I worked hard on it. Unlike women who are consistently being admired, cared for, and protected.

[@thewritersquill]

I would write a comment about how much these decisions by these companies have enraged me as a viewer - someone who loves these characters - but I haven’t taken anything these companies have done as “cannon” towards their respective franchises since around 2011. I’m just waiting and biding my time until they have to sell off the rights (at least with comics) or finally pull their heads out of their butts and start making REAL content again, and even then it’s gonna take several years for me to trust them again if I ever do. I really hope they just sell the stuff off so that people who actually care can make good stories again. Who knows, Marvel sold off the movie rights to all their characters in the 90’s, maybe they’ll sell of the comic rights so...crazier things have happened.

[@jcboyle82]

Why are you so angry about fictional characters dude? Go read about actual issues in the world. This doesn’t matter. It’s designed to make you not care about the US Supreme Court saying Childlabor over seas is ok. Or making so that women can’t have autonomy over their own bodies. Or that Jeffery Epstein just ‘killed himself”. Save your anger for the real issues.

[@kaizokujimbei143]

Culture is a real issue.

[@jcboyle82]

@@kaizokujimbei143 what culture? Like specifically

[@thewritersquill]

​@@jcboyle82 Oh, I haven't been angry at these companies decisions in over a decade. It used to make me mad as a kid and teen, but now a days I just laugh at them because I don't put any weight behind them anymore. To answer your question about why culture matters I'll give you the TL:DR version: The issues you mentioned are a result of politics or in the political realm - politics is downstream of culture - culture is created by entertainment. Obviously this is an oversimplification, and there are other factors that create culture, but in general this is how it goes (especially in todays world). If you want to know more about it there are host of people on this and other websites who can explain it a lot better than I can in a youtube comment. FEE is a good place to start.

[@jcboyle82]

@@thewritersquill no I understand how culture works. I’m asking the other guy what culture exactly he has a problem with. You obviously care because you typed out multiple responses to this video. So let’s not pretend you’re above it. Also, let’s not pretend like FEE actually has its finger on the pulse here. It’s a rightwing reactionary channel paid for by oil billionaires who want you to be mad at black peoples instead of actual issues.

[@Jarod-te2bi]

Lots of people keep seeing these films because nostalgia is strong and it’s dangerous if we let it cloud our judgement.

[@jcboyle82]

Why is it dangerous? Who gets hurt? Who cares if some people like nostalgia?

[@goldman77700]

@_*ZAPATOZ*_ From reading his comments he's probably part of the same echo chamber Hollywood is in.🤣

[@SamtheBravesFan]

Dude, if I'm nostalgic, I go to the old stuff I like. It's rare I give "new" things the time of day. I have to know they're good before I committ money to them.

[@SamtheBravesFan]

@@goldman77700 He's completely missed the point of the original comment, which posits that people watch reboots because they liked the original movies.

[@jcboyle82]

@@SamtheBravesFan exactly. That’s the healthy way of doing it. And honestly, I’m sure many people do it this way. But these reactionary channels need to find content somehow. Lol

[@MakerInMotion]

The same industry that continues to support Roman Polanski thinks we rely on them for moral guidance.

[@feck2594]

I completely gave up on Hollywood. I quit going to theaters ( which actually hurts me because I don't want to watch theaters go away ) but there has not been a good movie worth going to see in years.

[@Thespeedrap]

Maybe it's time we have a new Hollywood system like what they did with the 1960 and 70s.

[@ayjay.8176]

I think people forget too often that sometimes, you don't NEED to relate to everything you watch.... it's great watching a movie about a Jewish person from WW2, or an American on the Oregon Trail in the 1800s, or a rich CEO that lives in Dubai, even though I may have nothing in common with those main characters. The best part of films (and writing) is that we can use that media to put ourselves in THEIR shoes and sympathize with their life experiences and challenges. Great video, thanks for putting it out here :)

[@mymoonbebe7450]

6:50 IMAGINE someone saying "I'll ruin your mythos in a minute" about African mythology... but just cause it's Nordic and they're "white" they can be as disrespectful as they wish... the HYPOCRISY is strong nowadays. And I said African because Hollywood LOVES to thrive on defending black people but doesn't give a f about latinos and Asians or Indians lol. This is getting BORING. I'm going to stick to old movies and books, which is an industry that's not as affected by the woke mob as the Movie and TV industry.

[@NeloBladeOfRanni]

I mean it's not just Nordic mythology they disrespect they disrespect all pagan mythology. Just look how often pagans and witches along with our various gods and goddesses are demonised and villianised in media. Ultimately imo you can't even blame Hollywood for this go straight to the source of where this disrespect towards the old gods came from aka Christianity. Like it or not it's the Christians that started this bs but most won't dare criticise them over it. If you want a perfect example of this just look at how people freaked out over one of the X-Men comics implying Jesus might be a mutant then compare it to what happens when one of the various old pagan religions gods or goddesses is portrayed as a demon or their followers as evil and satanic.

[@SirBlackReeds]

That's not entirely true. They love defending Latinos and Indians, just not as much as black people. It's a hierarchy of skin color.

[@yoditgudit6578]

I mean, hasn't marvel and Hollywood long since assassinated Greek and Nordic mythology before all this "wokeness" occurred? What is the difference between some directors of a movie and Dante manipulating the character of the Greek gods for their own thematic visions?

[@nosfonader8792]

Stick to old movies How many are you going to ignore that was white washed? Plenty of non white roles went to the white man back then. Some now even too. Jake Gyllenhaal as an Persian prince, Gods of Egypt, Scarlet Johansson as a Japanese robot lady. It happens both ways

[@mck1972]

I consider myself politically moderate. When I first heard the claims of, ' cancel culture ', and, ' wokism ', I initially dismissed them as hyperbolic right-wing scare tactics. But I have now come to see this is a very real problem, and a very real threat to our society, that we have to resist!

[@Alte.Kameraden]

Of course they do. That is why I watch anime.

[@taoriq3632]

If you think anime are any different then you are mistaking

[@GarfieldEnjoyer1878]

Don’t watch anything ever!

[@markparkinson6947]

Woke politics exist in anime as well. Cowboy Bebop (yes, the original anime), has woke politics as an example. The cyberpunk genre is inherently woke, because the entire universe of the show exists as a dark result of capitalism, people unable to avoid the consequences of such an economic system.

[@TheZebbga]

@@markparkinson6947 Except the creator of Cowboy Bebop didn't go out and critise people who didn't like it. Having "woke" politics in TV or Film isn't inherently bad, some stuff has a good message and works because of that. It is about the reason it is there.

[@taoriq3632]

@@markparkinson6947 exactly my thought if you think anime is innocent then you need to read more every art work is influence by either the politic of the individual or the prevailing politics at that time a look at the Renaissance era will till you something or even the dada movement era futuristic art era and most recent civil right era all this one way or another influence the art will now see as normal and beside Hollywood as an industry is run by companies with share holder and in the last 10 years or so the demographic of the market as shifted from america to global so hollywood must try as much as possible to include as many costumers bases as possible

[@redsnake188]

I tried watching the Jill keynote presentation it genuinely felt like I was watching someone give a presentation on their fetish.

[@SirBlackReeds]

There's a good chance she's a fujoshi.

[@jagmo]

Really glad I caught this.THANK YOU!

[@FEEonline]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@daniellogan-scott5968]

As a writer, I came to the same conclusion regarding the two types of artists, though I saw it as two types of writers. There are those who love the creative process of writing and there are those for whom writing is simply the vehicle for their message. Both fit neatly into your two types of artists with the same projected outcomes.

[@markcrawford5810]

Evil cannot create anything new, they can only corrupt and ruin what good forces have invented or made. - JRR Tolkien

[@sexylazercatwizard]

"The Shadow that bred them can only mock, it cannot make: not real new things of its own..." "it only ruined them and twisted them" is the real quote. Tolkien would never write such a simple sentence.

[@bhosterman]

I can’t even describe how much I appreciate this video. As an artist in both music and visual arts I have felt this for years. It’s increasing hard to find work where I’m not offended by the direction and ideologies I have to support and promote to earn a paycheck. My longest job was working for a Classic Movie company that restored movies predating the 80s and as far back as the 40’s and fifties. I found myself longing for new content that mirrored the film making of the past. Not to be lectured but to be entertained. Now when I consume new media I’m always on the lookout for the ideological bent and waiting to be disappointed.

[@justdrewtheultramagaspoonc5043]

Hero starring Dustin Hoffman. Made in 1992.

[@3-der251]

This kind of predicts the recent Anheuser-Busch debacle. "We don't care about our customers! We want to be edgy!"

[@Seminolejm]

This was incredibly well presented…very impressive and hopefully effective in informing the general public as to what has happened to our once-beloved entertainment industry.

[@richpinkerton9253]

An actor is a person who lies to make a living. What should we expect from them?

[@npcimknot958]

Why u think there are classes for improvement for actors- cause they don't know what tonsay off script .. and what they say is shit

[@jcboyle82]

What? Lol. What does lying have to do with any of it? And it’s acting. It’s not lying. No one “thinks” they are really these characters. That’s silly.

[@BrettJones27]

@@jcboyle82 Have you ever dated an actress... emotional displays on command. Can make life somewhat challenging. Also, perhaps not 'lies', but pretending for a living can mess with the heads of some, especially as they gain greater notoriety and more sycophantic hanger-ons. And, before it's said, not ALL actors and actresses are like this, but a large number of those in the entertainment industry that I have worked with have a healthy dose of narcissism.

[@jcboyle82]

@@BrettJones27 I have. And she was cool. Sounds like you had a bad experience and are just projecting it onto a whole group of people. Kinda lame

[@BrettJones27]

@@jcboyle82 I did say, not all. And my experience with actors goes well beyond one short relationship.

[@chillstoneblakeblast3172]

This is one amazing video: You worded the thoughts of my heads perfectly: These people have had it all in life, and never suffered pain in the process. This is why their products are garbage and when the customers Don't buy, they blame them and not themselves....

[@thelostfathers]

Your analyses are always well put together and narrated, keep up your excellent work!

[@offdacorner]

Wow. It all makes sense. The director of Rogue One gave a speech that focused on creativity and his love of Star Wars. My son and I were two of the few people who actually really enjoyed Rogue One.

[@TH3F4LC0Nx]

I feel like they wanted really bad to go woke with The Batman, but knew they couldn't go all out with it. The incredibly heavy-handed white privilege line, and the mayor lady edging towards the "you need to give away all your money" line of reasoning were about as far as they went with it, and I was glad. Really enjoyed that film, although there were a couple of eye-roll moments.

[@npcimknot958]

Agree. Those were cringe. And it u have thebeye that crapnwas everywhere in thr movie which slowed down the movie. Bu hearing Zoe and stuff .. made me really not want to support this movie at all. It's annoying and that's why anime is so popular and overseas stuff-people 100 are sick of being talked down

[@jcboyle82]

Oh wow. You really missed the point of those lines. You’re so sensitive to wokeness that you turned normal character building lines into something problematic. The mayor is simply referring to the criticism people have of Batman, why doesn’t Bruce use his money to fix the systemic issues in Gotham. In this version, he isn’t donating ANY money. This shows he’s still inexperienced and unfocused on how to fix Gotham. The line from Catwoman was done to point out (again) he needs to work on his cover. He’s talking like a rich white guy, it’ll make it super easy to tag his secret identity.

[@MrNickPresley]

@@jcboyle82 considering the political climate, I’m not giving the writers that much credit.

[@peter-8483]

@@jcboyle82 Looks like you missed the point

[@jcboyle82]

@@MrNickPresley that’s on you then. It was pretty clear to me and the group I went with what they were saying.

[@tba113]

I remember studying Shakespeare back in school. At first, his stuff was kind of a drag, even by high school English class standards. It was just really hard to generate interest in them: we read the plays rather than saw them, the different format for the language of his day made events hard to follow, and the choice of plays tended toward the most mundane of his works. Nothing against the standard-issue Romeo and Juliet, of course, but when we could have had practically slapstick screwball comedies like A Midsummer Night's Dream, or spooky magic and blood-soaked conspiracies like The Tempest and Macbeth... C'mon, teachers, know your audience. Shakespeare certainly did, and that's the reason this video brought him to mind. I gained a lot of respect for The Bard when I learned he wasn't writing to create ~art~ - no, he wrote because that was his fucking JOB, and if his verses didn't get butts in seats, then he didn't GET PAID. Learning that really put things in perspective, and honestly made his work a lot more approachable: it's much easier to take in if it's not locked away on a pedestal, reserved for the smart people to admire.

[@davidgentry8982]

I have started a film company in Alabama (Door Number 3 Films), we are small, but we have talented people working with us. Working on a horror comedy right now. our goal is that we can create something successful outside the Hollywood system, where people can be free to tell any story they want to without having to be restricted in their speech or what kinds of stories they want to tell. It's a long shot I know, but if it means competing with Hollywood to make something better, Ok then!

[@bigyellowplumes]

"Who is now Joey Soloway." Hates the patriarchy so much she joins.

[@PerfectTangent]

I appreciate when a Communist outs themselves. It's refreshing and I just wish others saw it for what it is: idiots dropping dimes on themselves. "Thank you for telling me that I don't need to care about you or listen to you" should be the response to such people.

[@ohachiro1146]

Wait how is it communist? Isn’t large companies making products that appeal to new waves in popular culture a capitalist system?

[@GEMK-ik4qt]

@@ohachiro1146 a month late but here's an appetizer. kzbin.info/www/bejne/kIDXmqGKod1qr9E

[@brandenmanuel2037]

From what I’ve seen Ever since the 2016 Election, Hollywood hasn’t been the same for me. It went from telling stories to pushing an agenda.

[@SirBlackReeds]

Funny thing, there's been agenda-pushing for over a century. One of the most noteworthy examples of this is D.W. Griffith's magnum opus "The Birth of a Nation," which was the first cinematic blockbuster. There's also Sam Peckinpah's "The Wild Bunch," which was an allegory for the Vietnam War and was intended to serve as a cathartic release for the American populace.

[@ynsimha7663]

@@SirBlackReeds It has never been as overt or insane as the present day though.

[@Thespeedrap]

You can tell after Donald Trump's presidency society just lost it and it only got worse with COVID pandemic and inflation PLEASE Jehovah we need a miracle this coming decade.

[@robertmaybeth3434]

There's a name for businesses that treat their customers with contempt. Bankrupt. The word is BANKRUPT.

[@chrisgilmore4655]

First time watching this channel. I'm really glad that I found it. I enjoyed the point of view from the inside. I'll definitely watch this channel more often. Kudos and keep up the good work.

[@elementalscreator10]

Good to hear about Mike White. And I'm not surprised, White Lotus actually did have a good breakdown of woke characters with the college girls. They read social justice books the entire time, sneer at the rich woman and one even tries to convince an islander to take back his land. The rich girl of the two, however, is someone who will sleep with her friend's love interests, while the other convinced the islander to the point where he assaulted someone and will now forever be on the run. The two girls still remain friends.

[@terryteramotojr]

Yeah the current state of Hollywood has made me want get more involved in creating alternative content. Even though I haven't really had any experience in the industry. Probably more on the back end.

[@norrisfuse23]

I loved this video!!! There were soo many key points concerning this matter of promoting agenda over quality stories. I love the way in which the video took it's time to explain things and to illuminate the key points of this issue. It really brought it home for me, and explained why I feel the way I feel when it comes down to the Woke Media. They feel like they know what's best for us to the detriment of their own product. When soo many of us have only expressed just how much we don't want this. You can have your own opinion of what you think society needs, but you don't get decide that for me and get my money and support as you continue to treat me as if what I value as a consumer doesn't matter. Welcome to reality.